Cris Carter urged NFL rookies to have a “fall guy”

AP

A recent ESPN feature on former 49ers linebacker Chris Borland described Borland as “appalled” by what he heard at the 2014 Rookie Symposium, when a former NFL player told the rookies that they should have a “fall guy” in their crew who would take the blame if they faced legal trouble. What ESPN failed to mention is that the former player who gave that appalling advice was an ESPN employee, Cris Carter.

Although the ESPN feature says that Borland “declined to name” the player, the writers easily could have identified Carter as the source of the comments, because the video of Carter’s presentation at the Rookie Symposium is available at NFL.com.

The presentation went basically how Borland described it in the ESPN feature: Carter told rookies that they should have one friend who will be willing to take the blame if they ever get into trouble. Warren Sapp, onstage along with Carter, agreed.

“If you all got a crew, you got to have a fall guy in the crew,” Carter said. “If you all have a crew, one of those fools got to know, he’s the one going to jail. We’ll get him out.”

Sapp then repeated, “We’ll get him out.”

Those comments didn’t sit well with Borland, and they likely won’t sit well with most people hearing them now. But the NFL apparently didn’t have a problem with what Carter said: His presentation was posted on the league’s own website, and Carter was invited back to speak at this year’s Rookie Symposium.

UPDATE 5:23 p.m. ET: Shortly after we posted this item, NFL.com removed the video.

123 responses to “Cris Carter urged NFL rookies to have a “fall guy”

  1. Does this surprise anybody? Our own leaders will not take responsibility(clinton), cant expect some over paid athletes to man up and accept the consequences to their actions. Sounds like the definition of a a coward. Coward- noun- get a fall guy immediately you get rich because thats what rich folks do.

  2. might not sound good but this is typical… even when you have a crew in your younger days .. “whos weed is this” everyone knows so n so owns the weed but hes on probation already yet sos n so over there is not on any probation or in any trouble he immediately says “MINE” …. crew 101

  3. Great guys, that ESPN and NFLN. It’s just amusing these guys have been raking Brady and the Patriots through the coals for the past 7 months. Despicable.

  4. I ain’t in the NFL but I believe all crews have a fall back guy. Although I dont know why they’re teaching rookies that. That’s kind of something where you should stay out of trouble and won’t need a fallback guy simple.

  5. The NFL and ESPN are like a criminal syndicate show on HDO.

    Brazen, two-faced, and no one is stopping them unless they take out each other.

  6. Chris Carter is a big mouthed low life thug, wouldn’t expect less from him. The NFL and ESPN are two peas in the same pod. They talk about setting a good example, yet employ jerks like these.

  7. Even though it isn’t popular to him to say it, it’s the truth. You can try to do everything right and still be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

  8. Lee Majors is also “appalled”.

    Sapp is such an idiot he was his own “fall guy”.

    These two give clowns a bad name.

  9. Great, we’ll spend millions plus additional taxpayers dollars in federal court on deflated footballs that were likely not deflated, but we have no problem with this. Nice job Rog & the boys @ 345 Park.

  10. Hey Patriot fans. Not every piece of news relates back to you and your cheating team. K? Ok, thanks.

    That said Carter is an idiot. And he looks like Kermit the frog.

  11. If someone’s willing to be a fall guy then, yeah, I guess so. It pretty much extends to everybody.

  12. Can you imagine the field day Brady’s counsel could have in a defamation suit against ESPN and the NFL with this “integrity of the game” mantra Goodell and Vincent spew?

    “Commissioner Goodell, can we infer that you were generally aware that Chris Carter and Warren Sapp were advising rookies at the 2014 NFL Rookie Symposium that they should have a “fall guy” if they get in trouble?

  13. Carter, Sapp, Irvin even I believe was giving advice at these things. Honestly nobody should be taking advice from these guys. It’s appalling. The NFL should look around for some respectable former players to give advice. Probably they have all moved on with their lives and have better things to do though.

  14. Everyone that is upset with CC must be oblivious. This is common sense, if you’re in the league and you roll with your boys and take care of them and ride on your coat tails, they are under the assumption that one of them takes the hit to keep the golden goose alive.

  15. Well I can’t say I am surprised that an ESPN employee would have no integrity. Cris Carter has been high and mighty judging Tom Brady and the Patriots and he does crap like this. You know what they say about people who live in glass houses…………

  16. So basically it is all about how to get out of trouble, rather than not getting into trouble in the first place?!?

    That sends the message that we know you will get in trouble. We are here to support your self-entitlement.

  17. Sounds realistic but a lot of these guys going to jail aren’t following other basic legal sense that would keep them out. It doesn’t even get to the “fall guy” stage.

  18. Carter is a total dichotomy; maybe a paradox.

    He was awesome to watch. He is maybe the best guest on Mike and Mike. And some of his insight is heartfelt and poignant. And sometimes he hits it right on the head.

    But then you hear stuff like this. And you hear the locker room rumors from back in the day that he was a total d-bag. You hear him promote doing anything possible to earn every last dollar. You hear his arrogance in some of his comments.

    It wouldn’t be so bad if he wasn’t so outspoken. About his opinions, about other people’s decisions, and about his faith.

  19. The NFL on the field is an amazing sport and off the field it is an amazing mess. When will the owners wise up and bag the commissioner?

  20. Is there anyone left on the planet that doesn’t burst out laughing when Goodell uses the word “integrity” in relation to anything his office or the league is doing ?

  21. So what you’re saying is Tom Brady did NOT take the Hall Of Famer’s advice? Of course he did…In fact Brady had TWO “fall guys.”

  22. This guys is always spewing holier than thou crap. Not surprised that he’s a scum bag. Terrible judgemental guy who pretends to be some kind of expert. Being able to catch doesn’t mean you’re worth listening to!

  23. The list of morons, liars and charlatans continues to grow at ESPN and The NFL Network..never mind the cartel’s office at NFL headquarters..”Integrity Central”

  24. “So what you’re saying is Tom Brady did NOT take the Hall Of Famer’s advice? Of course he did…In fact Brady had TWO “fall guys.” ”

    This guy is melting like a block of Velveeta on a hot skillet. lol!

  25. What a small thing to take away from that article. Everything about it is an indictment of all things football.

  26. tattooit says:
    Aug 23, 2015 4:53 PM
    Hey Patriot fans. Not every piece of news relates back to you and your cheating team. K? Ok, thanks.

    How about you point that out to all the idiots who have posting “patriots cheated” comments on every single article whether it had anything to do with deflategate or not for the last 5 months.

  27. This is what NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent must have meant when he stated in his letter to Brady: “The integrity of the game is of paramount importance to everyone in our league, and requires unshakable commitment.”

  28. sdelmonte says:
    Aug 23, 2015 5:19 PM
    What a small thing to take away from that article. Everything about it is an indictment of all things football.
    ========

    While there are certainly lots of other important things to take from that article, the fact that a speaker at an NFL sponsored event was counseling rookies on how to avoid punishment for their actions is NOT a small thing.

  29. kcchefs58 says:
    Aug 23, 2015 4:52 PM
    Even though it isn’t popular to him to say it, it’s the truth. You can try to do everything right and still be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
    ~~~~~~~
    You call that truth? Seek help. It is irresponsible and shameful. Even if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time you would have nothing to worry about unless you did something wrong. If you are planning ahead and have a fall guy then you are planning to do something wrong. Since this appears to be some sort of twisted training plan, look back at all those instances where it was somebody else’s gun or drugs. Odds are that the player involved is a liar as well. When did it become socially acceptable to have no integrity, honor or decency?

  30. Goodell has stated that regardless of when he actually saw the video, he is seeing it just now for the first time because you mentioned it. Oh, he is also appalled. That you mentioned it.

  31. Rules don’t apply to them. I live in a BIG college town and regularly see young 16-17 year old recruits on their trip getting in to the bars, being able to do whatever they want, doesn’t change when they get to college, and as we see it doesn’t change when they get to the NFL.

    It’s out of control

  32. It is about the “integrity of the game” not integrity.
    I don’t know why you all have trouble understanding the difference. You can commit murder or be accessory to one, that is your business. You are not affecting the integrity of the game. The Game is all, all others don’t matter.

  33. handsofsweed says:
    Aug 23, 2015 4:46 PM

    Wait a second. WHAT THE HECK IS SAPP DOING ANYWHERE NEAR A ROOKIE SYMPOSIUM???

    You forget, my friend…..complimentary buffet.

  34. Yeah the player will get the “fool” out of jail….and that is where the problem ends right? Once they get bailed out of jail everything is good right? There won’t be any charges, a trial, jail time, fines or anything like that. I guess Sapp didn’t take the advice.

  35. The NFL is like a giant rudderless ship steaming forward at a high rate of speed through dense fog. They think they are unsinkable, but…

    We know how that story ends.

  36. All you need is a sober driver and you should be fine. A fall guy is for criminals and if you need one your probably braking the law and deserve to go down. Look at Gronk he has been partying like a rock star for years having fun picking up girls and all he has is a sober driver. It’s not rocket science. Maybe he should speak at the symposium next year.

  37. jvw1982 says:
    Aug 23, 2015 6:01 PM
    Brandon Spikes would still have a job if he got this advice…

    ===

    He tried. Stupid deer wouldn’t play ball.

  38. I would think a person who abides by the rules and laws of our land wouldn’t need a fall guy. It seems to work for me.

    I get having these old dopesters like Carter and Irvin speak at these events, but it can also put off a message that you can smoke dope, get in trouble with the law, etc. and still turn out to have a long HOF career. Irvin and Carter were huge exceptions compared to how many other players quickly flame out because they can’t keep their act together.

  39. FinFan68 says:
    Aug 23, 2015 5:32 PM
    kcchefs58 says:
    Aug 23, 2015 4:52 PM
    Even though it isn’t popular to him to say it, it’s the truth. You can try to do everything right and still be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
    ~~~~~~~
    You call that truth? Seek help. It is irresponsible and shameful. Even if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time you would have nothing to worry about unless you did something wrong. If you are planning ahead and have a fall guy then you are planning to do something wrong. Since this appears to be some sort of twisted training plan, look back at all those instances where it was somebody else’s gun or drugs. Odds are that the player involved is a liar as well. When did it become socially acceptable to have no integrity, honor or decency?
    ———–
    Yeah, innocent people never get accused, arrested, or worse. No one has ever tried to extort a wealthy person out of money. The entire globe is fair full of sunshine.

  40. This dude is a clown. Trashes Brady, trashes Josh Gordon when he was on cocaine as a rookie! Josh does a little pot big difference

  41. Rag on him all you want.. As a Packers fan I hated the guy and his ridiculous sideline catches, but he speaks the truth in this one. Is it unethical, sure, but when you get down to it many business practices are unethical.

  42. I’m pretty sure that most guys in the NFL already have a ‘fall guy’…the mainstream media and the NFL just didn’t want somebody to openly tell their new guys they needed to have one.

  43. I just wanted to add that while hunting down highlights this morning of the Eagles ravens game, that the only highlights BOTH networks showed were the hit by Suggs and two plays by Tebow … in a game that had exciting plays and pretty good story lines for both teams, both of the major outlets choose to make the Eagles 4th string qb the center of their coverage. These people don’t give a damp about the game or the fans of the game. ESPN has become the fox news of sports reporting. Half they just make stuff up, they nevee correct anything when they are wrong. They “report” the most sensational aspect of every story. It’s horrible. I understand it’s only sports or whatever but have some pride.

  44. If you never been to the symposium you wouldn’t really understand. It’s real talk from players who did good and bad things during their time in the league. Some players will not avoid bad situations. Dont you think CC knows this based off everything he went through??? You can tell these guys to stay out of trouble all day long but we all know most will not listen. CC goes the opposite way and explains what to do if your not gonna do the right thing. You can love it or hate it but it’s just what it is REAL TALK. Why are you people shocked to hear any of this??? The fall guy is used in all the major sports don’t be shocked cause CC said it. If you really want to be shocked you should listen to what the teams head of security tells you to do when you get into a situation. You get a handy list of contacts and somtimes a Wolf to clean up minor isssues. REAL TALK for you trolls to marinate on

  45. cris carter and warren sapp and mike Irvin hall of famers what a joke and tim brown a class act had to wait over a decade pathetic……. kravitz at work again

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