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At least five teams have suspected Patriots of headset tampering

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The term “Headsetgate” has just been coined and may not last, but the allegations that the Patriots tamper with visiting teams’ communications at Gillette Stadium are nothing new.

With the Steelers suggesting that something was afoul on Thursday night in New England, there are now at least five teams that have accused the Patriots of tampering with communications:

1. After the Jaguars lost to the Patriots in the playoffs following the 2005 season, then-Jacksonville coach Jack Del Rio said the headsets “mysteriously malfunctioned.”

2. In 2006, then-Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz suspected the Patriots of preventing him from communicating with his quarterback. As reported by Paul Zimmerman of Sports Illustrated, Martz had Detroit’s offense off to a good start until he lost the ability to call plays because the communications system went out. According to that report, it happened to the Lions twice, both times in the middle of drives when the Lions were picking up steam.

3. Bengals coach Marvin Lewis was quoted by Zimmerman as responding to Martz’s accusation by saying the same thing that happened to the Lions had happened to the Bengals as well: “Yeah, I know,” Lewis said. “Headset went out. It happened to me in Foxboro, too.”

4. Karlos Dansby said in an appearance on PFT Live this year that he suspected the Patriots of wrongdoing in 2008, when Dansby’s Cardinals visited New England and had trouble with their coach-to-helmet communications system.

5. The Steelers now become at least the fifth team making accusations, with the team saying that its coach-to-coach communications repeatedly faced interference from the Patriots’ radio broadcast, and that the interference would stop when a league official came to the sideline to deal with it, only to start up again when the league official walked away.

Unlike Spygate and Deflategate, these cheating accusations have not resulted in NFL discipline. But they’re part of a perception around the league that the Patriots win by skirting the rules.

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  1. freddypatsfan says: Sep 11, 2015 9:40 AM

    When you can’t cover Gronk, blame the headsets.

  2. DaveKShape says: Sep 11, 2015 9:40 AM

    Prediction:

    Pats fans – “Get over it, haters. You lost.”

    Everyone one – “Cheaters.”

  3. 2liveted says: Sep 11, 2015 9:41 AM

    the running joke in nfl circles is it is not if, but when the headset with malfunction in Foxboro. the timing of Tomlin’s comments made them look like sour grapes but this is not a new occurrence there. hopefully more nfl people will voice up about it.

  4. metalman5150 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:41 AM

    I was disappointed to not see a single PSI graphic / meter for all balls in play, last night.

  5. todd6162 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:42 AM

    Time for a class action law suit

  6. audio2sell says: Sep 11, 2015 9:42 AM

    Laughable. NFL controls the headsets.

  7. danchan22 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:42 AM

    Is it completely irrelevant to you that the NFL controls all headset communications?

  8. jae121704 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:42 AM

    Can you please report that the NFL has SQUAHSED this already………They said it was on them, why not report that?

  9. megatronownsyou says: Sep 11, 2015 9:43 AM

    But it’s either just a big coincidence or they’re all lying right Pats fans?

  10. kmo25 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:43 AM

    And here we go again. Maybe all of these teams should take the issue up with the NFL League office seeing as THE NFL IS IN CHARGE OF RADIOS FOR BOTH TEAMS !!

  11. qbarrel says: Sep 11, 2015 9:43 AM

    So, where are the accusations from teams that haven’t lost to NE? Sorry, but it would carry much more weight if a winning team were to levy the accusation instead of a team that was just force-fed their lunch.

  12. andy316b says: Sep 11, 2015 9:43 AM

    Just when you thought that regular season football would end all this witch hunt crap…. cue the Whitesnake…. here I go again…

  13. patriotinvasion says: Sep 11, 2015 9:43 AM

    I’ll say this haters. With Spygate, at least you had a legitimate gripe with the Patriots. Even that was a minor story, but I’ll give you the forum to express your concern with it.

    But, this other stuff has caused your tin-foil hat paranoia to get so absurd that you guys are ruining your case against the Patriots. This stuff will be remembered for it’s cutesy Red Auerbach style absurdity than it will for anything of substance.

  14. treye2 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:44 AM

    It’s just gotten too obvious with this team, no other team has as many allegations against them like the Patriots.

    These things could be happening around the league with multiple teams but it’s not.

    Just the Patriots.

  15. smaxor5 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:44 AM

    This sport is broken.

  16. themikegun says: Sep 11, 2015 9:44 AM

    This is awesome! In an effort by the league and 31 owners to shut down the Patriots’ winning machine by stealing draft picks, the opposite is happening! Opposing terms are so focused on trying to figure out how the Patriots’ are cheating…they are forgetting how to play the game!

    On to Buffalo!

  17. minneanderthals says: Sep 11, 2015 9:44 AM

    Perception is reality. Vacate every Superbowl.

  18. waxthat says: Sep 11, 2015 9:44 AM

    The reality is, Belichick has caused all of this. Like it or not, Pats fans.

  19. patsfan1960 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:44 AM

    It’s amazing to me that all these teams complain about the pats doing things wrong. Do.they ever complain when the beat the pats. Oh that’s right that doesn’t happen often…anyone out there need a hanky?…

  20. sports4life says: Sep 11, 2015 9:45 AM

    HAHHAHA another cry baby team. Cover Gronk maybe? Poor sport steelers. Let me make this clear the nfl handles them. Pats have had problems in past. Other teams said they have had problems at their stadium. It’s technology. Keep making excuses. I’m sure we will beat you in Pitt like usual and if there’s a glitch in a headset we won’t complain and cry like your garbage franchise

  21. kd75 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:45 AM

    What a Coinkidink!

    I’m sure there is no fire under all that smoke. Patriots are a First CLass organization and would never pull any cheap gamesmanship tricks just to needle an opponent.

    They are Professionals!

  22. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:45 AM

    The headsets are provided and operated by the league.

    Since they are now using wireless headsets instead of wired ones they are idiots. I use the same type of comm all around the world as I tour doing the lighting for a rock band. I never ever allow wireless systems as they always have problems.

    There have been big problems with wireless mics and headsets ever since congress sold the previously dedicated bands to cell phones and moved headsets and mics into the consumer band that is incredibly crowded.

    You don’t want this to happen, run mic cable and use wired headsets.

  23. beyond2k says: Sep 11, 2015 9:46 AM

    But yet the NFL does nothing…

  24. steelfla says: Sep 11, 2015 9:46 AM

    New England* is a thoroughly corrupt organization from the top down with Krafty,Belicheat and Tom Crybaby.

  25. coltzfan166 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:46 AM

    Boy this is getting good, isn’t it?

  26. skippynj says: Sep 11, 2015 9:47 AM

    If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck…

  27. audio2sell says: Sep 11, 2015 9:47 AM

    Yes, that is why Gronk was uncovered. The false start because of the shift is cheating too.

    What a bunch of losers.

    Bill is in their heads… LOL

  28. athwartships says: Sep 11, 2015 9:47 AM

    Caught or not caught….they don’t care. Bill’s reply to questions about the ESPN report was to simply say it’s outside noise? Tells me he brushes it all off and marches forward playing the type of game he will play feeling above the rules.

  29. fetts81 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:47 AM

    Unless you have proof… Shut up… And beat them! Until then…. You all sound pathetic.

  30. chrontroit says: Sep 11, 2015 9:47 AM

    And like the Steelers – all five of these teams lost and were searching for excuses.

  31. hooded12 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:48 AM

    Is this what the NFL is coming to? I’ve followed football my entire life, and though I am a Pats fan, this is getting absurd.

    I LOL’d when I saw the Jags and Lions (who had losing records then) both complained. I’m sure that’s the reason why they had trouble winning, was because of Belichick.

  32. terripet says: Sep 11, 2015 9:48 AM

    Just cheaters thats all you can say Bill and Kraft should be out of the NFL.

  33. 12444uggg says: Sep 11, 2015 9:48 AM

    Not shocked.

  34. pphins4life12 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:48 AM

    Lol ok I.probably hate the patriots more than anyone but please enough with this crap

  35. daveydawg says: Sep 11, 2015 9:49 AM

    You all just can’t handle the fact that we’re better than you.

  36. zeenadog37 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:49 AM

    They must have a CIA trained electrician on staff with the ability to jam on demand. I expect him to be suspended indefinitely along with the invisible employee stealing the scripted play sheets

  37. nickmedici55 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:49 AM

    Then why not do it against the biggest thorn in the ass? The Ravens. Exactly cause it’s just another way for people to cry.

  38. bmoreb says: Sep 11, 2015 9:49 AM

    In my best Boston accent:

    #cheeta

    You know it Pats fans

  39. Judge Smails says: Sep 11, 2015 9:49 AM

    While the NFL does control the headsets, that doesn’t mean that someone isn’t jamming them.

    As a fan of an NFC team, I don’t have strong feelings one way or the other on the Patriots, but boy, when there is smoke…..

  40. sb44champs says: Sep 11, 2015 9:49 AM

    But they’re part of a perception around the league that the Patriots win by skirting the rules.
    ==========================
    *Spygate
    *Deflategate
    *Headsetgate (opposing team only)
    *Stealing plays sheets
    *Bugging locker rooms
    *Refs in back pocket
    *The Patriot Way
    *All of the above

  41. johny248 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:50 AM

    Assuming the headsets opperate on an RF system (I don’t know that they do, but with the NFL’s resistance to technolgy i.e Goal line cameras) it would be pretty easy fr NE or anyone else to hire a guy to “overpower” the RF transmission of the headsets with noise or anything else they would like to force on those headsets. The idea that the headsets are operated by the league means nothing when it comes to disabling or tampering with the communication systems.

    Not saying NE did anything wrong , but the idea is plausible.

    Where there is smoke……

  42. haminator says: Sep 11, 2015 9:50 AM

    In all fairness they’ve brought this upon themselves. I don’t know if any of its true, but man where there is smoke there is usually fire. They’re always going to be under a cloud of suspicion, probably rightly so.

  43. waycole says: Sep 11, 2015 9:51 AM

    This is going to be a long season if after every game something like this comes up.. The NFL controls the communications not the home team. If other teams have issues with the headsets, take it up with the NFL and stop blaming the Pats for every little things that goes wrong. Hell, did Bill make it rain harder last night too when the Steelers had the ball and stop when the Pats had it? This is getting beyond insane at this point.

  44. silasw33 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:51 AM

    THE NFL handles communications! For gosh sakes put the blame where it belongs!

  45. jetsarestacked says: Sep 11, 2015 9:51 AM

    pats fans, you guys realize that your team can be great AND be cheaters, right?

  46. mtmiceli says: Sep 11, 2015 9:52 AM

    isn’t the nfl responsible for the headsets operating correctly…….YET another attempt by the NFL to point fingers at the Pats after Brady’s win in court, this has gone beyond ridiculous. Kraft should sue the NFL for defamation of a team’s character and legacy. Next it will be the sun was in their eyes and the Pats had control of that. GIVE IT UP!

  47. clipper522 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:52 AM

    I’m sure its just a coincidence, people. There’s no way the Patriots would ever intentionally cheat.

    It’s not like they’ve been caught before…

  48. tomtravis76 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:52 AM

    Headsets??? Why hasn’t the league released all of the PSI numbers from last night’s game? That was the biggest story to the league and its integrity. You would think the league office would release those numbers to show the fans of football that they are on top of this. And why haven’t any media members pushed for the numbers or written that the league hasn’t released the information. That is the bigger story after game number 1 after this off season.

  49. djaehne says: Sep 11, 2015 9:52 AM

    NE: cheat to win.

  50. STILLlolatpatshaters says: Sep 11, 2015 9:52 AM

    It was interference from the bugs in the locker room.:)

  51. pixelito says: Sep 11, 2015 9:52 AM

    What is wrong with that team????

  52. ts1960 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:52 AM

    Here’s the difference; when something goes wrong on the Pats sideline they handle it without running around pointing fingers. When they caught a Jets camera man filming prior to Spygate, they simply escorted the guy away; they didn’t feel it necessary to whine and cry. There isn’t another coach alive today that is better than Belichick. Deal with it.

  53. keepounding1234 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:52 AM

    Someone could accuse the pats of seeding clouds and it would make headlines.

  54. laces out says: Sep 11, 2015 9:52 AM

    have you ever noticed:

    SpyGate: happens in the first half against the Jets. Patriots have a season for the record books and come up just shy of undefeated.

    Deflategate: happens during the first half of the AFC Championship. After the proper balls are used in the second half, Brady plays much better and proceeds to blow out the Colts.

    Radiogate: happens in the first 10 minutes, Pats headsets are turned off after and Brady still throws for 4 touchdowns.

  55. 6superbowls says: Sep 11, 2015 9:52 AM

    “Time for a class action law suit”.

    It’s just easier to stop watching any professional football.

  56. cma1973 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:53 AM

    With all the whining I thought the Pats played the Ravens. Tech doesn’t always work perfectly in a rain soaked environment but I am done with defending the Pats. If the Steelers are so suspect of them then they should have been prepared for that. Just another example of how teams don’t prepare like the Pats. Just a thought, perhaps the lower level of prep is why they lose instead of some invested cheating methods. Anyway I’ll take a purported cheater over a purported rapist any day. Enjoy the trip home.

  57. dave399 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:53 AM

    Patsfan1960 just summed it up:

    Opponents routinely cry “cheater” whenever they get the floor mopped with themselves by the Patriots. But never so much as a peep when they (rarely) beat them.

    Funny how that works. Huh?

  58. mctyboy35 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:53 AM

    So what will be done about this? Will the NFL even investigate it? Or are they too scared now because they lost against Brady? Will they find something and lose again due to a union technicality? Injustice will prevail like it did with deflategate. Brady and the Pats cheated and got caught, but the fight wasn’t about proving that, it was about whether he could legally be PUNISHED for it. Because of a technicality he couldn’t. Sad times…CHEATERS really DO PROSPER kids…you just have to be really good at it. =(

  59. butwhatabouttheintegrityofthegame says: Sep 11, 2015 9:54 AM

    I love it. Going to be a great season for the pats. I expect new and hilarious accusations every week! What’s next? I can’t wait to hear what buffalo complains about. Pats had an extra few days to prepare and ITS NOT FAIR!!!!

  60. publikwerks says: Sep 11, 2015 9:54 AM

    Gasp, it only happened at important times, because you would have noticed the headset going down when your not trying to use it?

  61. wrlegrand says: Sep 11, 2015 9:54 AM

    It just has to be purely chance. Multiple teams are just upset losing to the above-board always Patriots. It would be different if the upstanding team had every had any other issues with potentially “bending” the rules. But the Patriots certainly have not. Let’s just move along. Mr. Bill Belichek and czar Kraft would never let anything like this happen on their watch…

  62. tajuara says: Sep 11, 2015 9:54 AM

    Yep, keep throwing gasoline to he bonfire, that will help…

  63. 2dollarpbrs says: Sep 11, 2015 9:54 AM

    Karlos Dansby’s Cardinals lost 47-7 in Foxboro because the headsets went out?????????????????

  64. qbarrel says: Sep 11, 2015 9:54 AM

    This is just Tomlin trying to deflect attention away from the fact that he only had 9 players on the field for Gronk’s first touchdown. The cheating accusation is a sorry attempt to cover up his own gaffe.

  65. moosey7195 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:54 AM

    It doesn’t matter what it was, something was going to come out and common sense would be damned to stop it. Let’s ignore the fact that the NFL controls the headsets or that NE had headset issues or that their radios were cut off. No, what we should all believe is that the Patriots have an extremely complex system in place to bypass layers of NFL security and control throughout the stadium in order to hack opposing teams radio frequencies, and this system is so expertly done and undetectable that NE has the capability to pick and choose the amount of interference. Yes people, that is the most logical explanation for what happened…. Come on now, you people can’t be serious. I get the suspicion, but when you start ignoring the facts about the NFL controlling radios and the Pats also having problems, you have to realize that you’re not being rational. You’re not using common sense.

  66. STILLlolatpatshaters says: Sep 11, 2015 9:54 AM

    terripet says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:48 AM
    Just cheaters thats all you can say Bill and Kraft should be out of the NFL.


    Translation: My wuss team is not MAN enough to try and beat the Patriots fair and square on the field. Please NFL kick Belichick or Brady out of the league and give my limp wristed skirt wearing light in the loafers wuss team a chance!1!1!!1!
    :)

  67. barneyfifeactionfigure says: Sep 11, 2015 9:55 AM

    If this is how it’s going to be this year then I am really going to enjoy this season. What a bunch of whiners. Headsets are busted!, illegal shift on defense!, Belichick turned me into a newt! Go Pats!!

  68. bgibson8708 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:55 AM

    Ban Bill from the nfl. He needs to go.

  69. ts1960 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:55 AM

    Thanks for providing the humor content today mctyboy.

  70. captainobvious says: Sep 11, 2015 9:55 AM

    If you can’t take the cheat, get out of the chicken!

  71. unitas19 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:55 AM

    The Patriot head set cheat trick-an oldie but a goodie!!!

  72. 700levelvet says: Sep 11, 2015 9:55 AM

    Modern Day Mafia…

  73. iamkillerfin says: Sep 11, 2015 9:56 AM

    CHEATING PATRIOTS!!! But as usual NOTHING will ever be done about this constant problem!!!

  74. rcampore says: Sep 11, 2015 9:57 AM

    I hate the Patriots just like everyone else but not because of jealousy since my Giants actually know how to beat them, but because I do believe they do cheat in a lot of ways, but despite that, this is getting absolutely ridiculous.

    I’ll pay attention to this stuff when there is actual hard proof and they get caught red handed, but the million stories about every team that can’t beat the Pats saying they cheat is just dumb.

    I really can’t wait until Sunday comes so we can actually focus on other teams and the game of football!

  75. Karmi says: Sep 11, 2015 9:57 AM

    Losers always whining … looking for excuses.

    Not a Pat fan (do have Gronk on my Dynasty team), but its become rather obvious that they are sooooooooooo good that there is no need for cheating. Brady could’ve been throwing pancakes or bowling balls and still scored at least 4 TDs.

    They’re good year in and year out, and coaches & players have to tell owners and fans ‘sOmEtHiNg’ to explain why they’re not…

  76. irkjames says: Sep 11, 2015 9:57 AM

    Idk how people are just calling the Steelers haters if even the commentators mentioned the headset issue and how other teams have cited the same problem at Gillette mid-game.

    It’s not that Patriots fans are oblivious to the cheating, they’re just okay with it and want you to get over the fact that their team does.

    Other than that they’re great people.

  77. jocko67 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:57 AM

    Let’s see if I get this right. From this article I’m suppose to assume that there never has been a “headset” communication problem – ever – in any of the couple of hundred games played every year in all the other stadiums?
    Every year? Please, just play ball and shut up!

  78. ewburkett573 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:57 AM

    “Gate”!!?? Really, we’ve already gone over to calling this a “gate”?
    The NFL, not the teams, provides and controls the headsets for BOTH teams. That would make it extremely hard for any team to tamper with them.
    Do we really think that the Patriots are monumentally stupid? After an entire offseason of getting railroaded by falsified, so-called evidence of tampering with footballs and two hatchet-job “expose” stories that did not present any actual evidence, either new or old, other than lots of anonymous sources; there’s no way they would even think of doing anything untoward.
    They absolutely know the league office will be looking at them under a microscope.

  79. bnwpnw says: Sep 11, 2015 9:57 AM

    Kraft to the NFL: “We know you know and we don’t care.”

    If you’re a billionaire cheater, you pretty much have license to cheat the common citizen / customer / fan. You’re untouchable from that perspective. It’s just how it goes.

    But Kraft is also cheating 31 other billionaire NFL owners — who are basically independent business owners bound by the association that is the NFL. They didn’t get to be billionaires by allowing themselves to get continually punked like this.

    Call me crazy, but I’m starting to wonder:

    What’s the procedure for kicking a team out of the NFL?

  80. briguy5 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:57 AM

    5 allegations in the past 10 years? Sorry, but there’s no [i]there[/i] there.

  81. cguy7 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:57 AM

    If they were working the Cheatiots would be listening. Can’t win with those guys… Cue the Chowds who want proof and will call out the integrity of those involved as if they had an ounce of integrity themselves. Laughable. They are the ultimate manipulators…

  82. tajuara says: Sep 11, 2015 9:58 AM

    Laughable. NFL controls the headsets.

    —————————————————-

    Yes, they do, but not the transmition. Not saying that NE cheated, but just throwing a fact.

  83. bradygirl12 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:58 AM

    They shredded the Patriots with their running game. Did the Patriots blame anyone other than themselves? They left Gronk all by himself. He smoked them for 3 TD’S. Are the headsets to blame for that? Anyway,the NFL is in charge of the headsets,not the Patriots. Nice try,haters.

  84. jchemengr says: Sep 11, 2015 9:58 AM

    The coach who beats Belichick will be the one who keeps Bill out of his head. That isn’t Mike Tomlin.

  85. moosey7195 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:58 AM

    megatronownsyou says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:43 AM

    But it’s either just a big coincidence or they’re all lying right Pats fans?
    ________________
    The NFL controls the teams radios, and the options aren’t only coincidence or everyone’s lying. But okay, let’s play the game. How did NE do it? Let’s ignore the fact that NE had issues with their radios too. How did NE hack Pit’s radio frequency?

  86. getaclue12 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:59 AM

    Lol..keep crying babies!

    Go Pats

  87. elyasm says: Sep 11, 2015 9:59 AM

    5 technical glitches over the last 10 years? 5 games out of 80 regular season and another dozen or so postseason games in that time? It’s really not that bad of a failure rate when you take into consideration the Patriots winning percentage over that time and the fact that teams that win don’t whine.

  88. pettsmagee says: Sep 11, 2015 9:59 AM

    hahaha i love it. teams will be (and apparently already do) spend so much extra time and effort with preventative measures to ensure the pats wont be “cheating” or gaining an advantage. Completely in everyones heads. Bring the hate…they’ll bring the W’s.

  89. buddy8675309 says: Sep 11, 2015 9:59 AM

    Viking fan here. Come on Pats fan, cheating is cheating. Brady and Belicheck are cheaters. Nice role models for kids. SMH

  90. amazenblue says: Sep 11, 2015 10:00 AM

    The NFL controls the headsets and communications. Maybe their crew needed a bathroom break and instead, decided to pipe in some radio while they were out.

  91. holeinone09 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:02 AM

    Notice that the Cheaters had a FUMBLE last night. Watch their fumble stats this year without deflated balls.

    If the Steelers had decent DBs, they would have spanked the Cheaters. The Cheaters won’t win the SB this year.

  92. araidersfan says: Sep 11, 2015 10:02 AM

    I’m still waiting for Belichick & the Pats to be accused of putting listening devices in the light fixtures in the visitor’s locker-room….but then that’s what some other teams used to accuse Al Davis of when the Raiders used to be as consistently good as New England has been for a long-time.

    I remember I used to laugh at those accusations flying at my Raiders and I can see why the Pats would be laughing at this. I hope that some time in my remaining lifetime that my Raiders becomes dominant enough again so that I can relive laughing at this kind of stuff. And I’m sure that fans of other teams also inwardly wish for this to be the case for their own franchise.

  93. cueghost says: Sep 11, 2015 10:02 AM

    Enough already!! Any common sense at all should tell you that even if the Pats had/have cheated in the past, they wouldn’t have tried to cheat last night amidst the current climate and with ALL EYES on them in the season opener!!! Seriously.

  94. amazenblue says: Sep 11, 2015 10:02 AM

    Do you think Gronk was generally aware?

  95. jchemengr says: Sep 11, 2015 10:02 AM

    “Check one two. Check one two.”

    Too funny. While Tomlin was losing control, the Steelers were losing the game.

  96. jhcarrollfov2015 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:02 AM

    Just wondering if playing in Foxboro is such a disadvantage to visiting teams due to cheating, how is it that the Patriots win most of their road games as well? Can the haters explain this?

  97. rollotomasi14 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:02 AM

    And what’s your excuse for when you suck in the other 15 games you play?

  98. patfanken says: Sep 11, 2015 10:03 AM

    WOW! What a shock that this happened on opening night. When are the haters and media jerks going to understand the very SIMPLE fact that the NFL controls all the radio devises, NOT the Patriots. Yes Martha, the same bumbling idiots that brought you the Welles report, and made up Deflategate are the same people who control how the radio signals operate.

    Was it a coincidence that there was a problem. With the NFL league offices overtly out to destroy the Patriots brand, you have to wonder. BTW- lost in this story is the fact that the Pats were having the SAME issues. But that isn’t being covered because it doesn’t fit the narrative the league office is trying to put together.

    The Radio waves didn’t cause the Steelers to lose. They lost because they were out coached and out prepared. They had 2 months to prepare for this one game and now they want to make excuses because they weren’t smart enough to cover the Patriots biggest offensive threat.

    Mike Tomlin should be ashamed.

  99. beach305 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:03 AM

    I think that since Kraft and Belichick have lost credibility around the league, teams are more than likely to suspect them of cheating.

    I still have not heard a good reason why patriots employee how handles the balls was called the “deflator”.

  100. moosey7195 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:03 AM

    Judge Smails says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:49 AM

    While the NFL does control the headsets, that doesn’t mean that someone isn’t jamming them.

    As a fan of an NFC team, I don’t have strong feelings one way or the other on the Patriots, but boy, when there is smoke…..
    _____________________
    I don’t believe jamming a radio signal has the effect of bleeding in the Pats radio broadcast of the game. I’m pretty sure jamming a radio signal just makes static. But hey, let’s ignore that NE had issues too.

    And sometimes, where there is smoke, there’s a ginger moron worth 44M annually playing with smoke bombs.

  101. mmmpierogi says: Sep 11, 2015 10:03 AM

    Is Rodney Harrison around to chime in on the matter and defend the Pats? If not, someone better arrange it immediately.

  102. amazenblue says: Sep 11, 2015 10:03 AM

    Tomlin sounded like a world class loser after the game. Embarrassing for Pittsburgh.

  103. neallday says: Sep 11, 2015 10:04 AM

    New England also wins on the road…a lot.

    So how do the haters explain that???

    They cant they just cry

    Dont get mad.Get better

  104. rollotomasi14 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:04 AM

    I’m going to love this season of whining from other fans. It’s like Christmas every week.

  105. craigruby20 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:04 AM

    I don’t like either one of these teams so I have no horse in this race but…. this is the most obvious case of the Pats taunting the NFL and the Steelers with their ability to continue to cheat.

  106. dave399 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:04 AM

    Remember the 21 Jump Street movie? How after returning back to high school, the two guys were amazed at how soft kids had become these days?

    When I was a kid growing up in Boston in the 80’s, if you accused somebody of the dirtiest crime in sports … cheating … then you’d better have damn good proof. If not, you’d probably get tossed in a river.

    Now in the age of participation trophies, it’s perfectly fine to accuse your opponent of cheating to ease your own agony of defeat. I’m guessing that the overwhelming majority of those that resort to cheater excuses are under 30 years old.

    The Patriots stole the Steelers lunch money AND their bike last night. Deal with it.

  107. rollotomasi14 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:04 AM

    Yes, let’s mess with the headsets in the first quarter of a 0-0 game. Pure genius.

  108. coltcountrysteelerfan says: Sep 11, 2015 10:05 AM

    I said before the game it would come down to the steeler defense. They couldn’t keep up with the passing game, that had nothing to do with the headsets. The Pats got away with several penalties, that had nothing to do with headsets. The kicker missed 2 FGs, nothing to do with headsets. The goal line shift is legal, as long as no one simulated a snap count, that had nothing to do with headsets.

    All that being said, I’ll paraphrase what everyone said about Ben, where there’s smoke, there is fire. All this talk about the Patriots cheating likely has footing since teams have nothing to gain after losing.

  109. helmetsail says: Sep 11, 2015 10:05 AM

    I”ll say it again and again. It doesn’t matter who “controls” the headsets. Where are all you Patriot scientists?

    This is radio 101. Know the frequency, tune to the frequency, transmit within the frequency

  110. ndjon says: Sep 11, 2015 10:06 AM

    In my profession, repeated corroborating pieces of information/allegations, particularly when they come from various sources, more often than not lead to bad guys doing bad things…

  111. kcchefs58 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:06 AM

    So Pats fans and other fans who despise the league say the league can’t be trusted, but those same fans trust the league-controlled communications? #flipflopmuch?

  112. realtimeeyes says: Sep 11, 2015 10:06 AM

    The Steelers lost because the Pats were better…..But that doesn’t mean the Pats didn’t cheat..

    Just like the Geigo ad…They cheat..it’s what they do

  113. rollotomasi14 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:06 AM

    Is that why with the Steelers driving they tried that trick play that killed the drive? Is that why Bey was wide open and still caught the ball out of bounds? Is that why Tomlin can’t figure out clock management?

  114. nfella says: Sep 11, 2015 10:06 AM

    Too absurd.

    Robert Griffin III claimed to have a helmet malfunction late in Sunday’s Redskins-Buccaneers game, causing his headset to go out. Even without the proper communication, the rookie quarterback led his team 56 yards in less than 2 minutes to set up Billy Cundiff’s game-winning field goal.

    “The whole drive was a little complicated,” Griffin said afterward. “In practice, every week we always practice me calling the plays in two-minute acting as if the headset goes out. The funny thing was the headset did go out on that drive.”

    Wide receiver Santana Moss refused to blame the lack of communication on technology, insinuating foul play by pretending to pull an imaginary plug out of the wall.

    Moss also suggested it wasn’t a one-time occurrence.

    Many current and former NFL coaches have reported helmet communications failure, and it’s almost always in reference to quarterbacks on the road late in close games. Just last week in Dallas, an odd third-down run call on Tampa Bay’s final series with 2:32 remaining was the result of quarterback Josh Freeman’s helmet malfunctioning.

    Last season, Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett suffered two delay-of-game penalties due to headsets malfunctioning during a Sunday night road game loss to the New York Jets. The Jets themselves suffered a loss to the Steelers that they blamed in part on Mark Sanchez’s multiple helmet malfunctions.

    The Texans struggled Sunday in Baltimore, and they also struggled at times, to talk with each other.
    “We had some communication problems,” head coach Gary Kubiak said Thursday. “Our headsets went out for a portion of the game. We didn’t respond to that very good. We have to be prepared to do that.”

    It happens, it happens often, it happens everywhere – get real people.

    Don’t let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

  115. carloswlassiter says: Sep 11, 2015 10:06 AM

    The Karlos Dansby complaint is my favorite. That was one of the biggest beatdowns I’ve ever seen, with a team from AZ playing in the snow, looking they couldn’t wait to get on the plane hom and losing 47-7.

    Yeah, must have been the headsets.

  116. themikegun says: Sep 11, 2015 10:06 AM

    Tomlin is just whining because he didn’t get the chance to trip anyone last night.

  117. zombiepatriot says: Sep 11, 2015 10:06 AM

    Ha ha this whole thing is so pathetic it is laughable. It’s interesting how little dignity there is in the NFL and how often teams resort to the level of a three year old who can’t simply except the fact they were beat.

    What I like about being a Patriots fan is when they lose they give credit to the other team they don’t run around looking for the slightest little thing they can put the loss on.

    Headsets?!? We’re talking Headsets!?!

    Tomlin you are better than this.

  118. beach305 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:06 AM

    Just wondering if playing in Foxboro is such a disadvantage to visiting teams due to cheating, how is it that the Patriots win most of their road games as well? Can the haters explain this
    _________________________________

    Well they play in a weak conference for one. The AFC was broken up moving the colts and Manning to another division. Marino and Kelly have long since retired by 2001, leaving Billsl and Dolphins searching for a franchise QB since. Also, when you steal signals, play sheets and deflate balls it makes it a little easier to win. on the road.

  119. rocksoup342 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:06 AM

    rollotomasi14 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 10:04 AM
    I’m going to love this season of whining from other fans. It’s like Christmas every week.

    _____________________________________

    Agreed….this whining and cheater BS is great!!!

  120. rogerWWEgoodell says: Sep 11, 2015 10:07 AM

    At one point pitt had no one lined up against gronk, then NE actually snapped a ball and ran a play.. CHEATERS!

  121. magicmtndan says: Sep 11, 2015 10:07 AM

    Move all Pats “home games” to a neutral site so visiting teams can focus on football instead of all the BS the Pats put teams through in Cheats-boro, MA.

  122. uglydingo says: Sep 11, 2015 10:07 AM

    That’s only 5 examples in 15 years. The Patriots play another 26 teams and we haven’t heard them complaining.
    This is another loser team whining. Maybe Mike Tomlin needs to focus on the lack of talent and discipline in his Defense rather than whining about his headsets not working. Look at the scoreboard and just kiss the rings.

  123. letsgobuffalo4 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:07 AM

    audio2sell says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:47 AM

    The goal line d-line shift was legal, but extremely bush league. Thats like a baseball players distracting a runner- its legal but an unspoken rule that anyone outside of pee wee shouldnt do that nonsense. We can all say “the nfl controls the headsets” but the fact is the NFL coaches know more than us. And if this is something controlled by the NFL then coaches wouldnt blame the Patriots- grow up. We do NOT know more than NFL execs and head coaches. They complain for a reason- there is wrongdoing.

  124. parilli15 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:08 AM

    2005 playoffs: Patriots 28, Jaguars 3
    2006: Patriots 28, (the 3-13) Lions 21
    2006: Patriots 38, Bengals 13 (in Cincinnati!)
    2007: Patriots 34, Bengals 13 (in Cincinnati!)
    2008: Patriots 47, Cardinals 7
    Obviously, the difference was the headsets.

  125. unnamedxsource says: Sep 11, 2015 10:09 AM

    “…it was like they were in our huddle.”

    –unnamed Panthers source after 2004 Superbowl

  126. tke743 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:09 AM

    I love people pointing out that the headsets are handled by the NFL without having the slightest clue how they work. Yes they control the headsets, which can be interfered with in MANY ways without touching them. It is RAIDO folks, it has been around for a while and the tech isn’t that hard to understand.

  127. jchemengr says: Sep 11, 2015 10:09 AM

    Every time this comes up, the Patriots road to another Super Bowl gets easier. I hope this stuff is front page news every week. The effect on the opponents psyche seems to be pretty devastating.

  128. greenegggrillin says: Sep 11, 2015 10:10 AM

    If the patriots where generally aware that the headsets where malfunctioning shouldn’t they be suspended, fined and draft picks taken away?

  129. helmetsail says: Sep 11, 2015 10:10 AM

    …that said, I have a hard time believing the Pats would be dumb enough to do something like that under the spotlight *last night*. I wouldn’t doubt they’ve done it some time before. Who controls the headsets doesn’t matter, that’s all

    Steelers got owned last night. If they knew interference was a problem, they should have prepared differently

    And headset interference is the oldest trick in the book

  130. californiaqid says: Sep 11, 2015 10:10 AM

    An entire organization of cheaters. Disgusting.

  131. rollotomasi14 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:10 AM

    Tomlin was just mad that no Patriot got close enough to his sideline so he could interfere with the play.

  132. jldii says: Sep 11, 2015 10:11 AM

    Pats defenders , even though the league provides the headsets, the league is not responsible for the connections. That’s on the home stadium; i.e. The Patriots/Gillette crew.
    Not saying it’s the only reason NE won but it didn’t help the Steelers.

  133. miamisam1966 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:11 AM

    Every championship is tainted and no one outside of New England fans will ever respect any of them. Sorry NE fans but your “dynasty” will always be tainted by the smell of cheating.

  134. mark4steelers says: Sep 11, 2015 10:12 AM

    Belicheat is the ‘Penguin’ & Brady is the ‘Joker’. What a pair these 2 make…it’s unbelievable that the Patriots’ would start the season by cheating after this off season! Oh wait…perhaps it isn’t surprising given that they now know Kraft has the friends & influence to wipe things like this under the rug.

  135. helmetsail says: Sep 11, 2015 10:12 AM

    Tomlin is embarrassing himself

  136. warpigz says: Sep 11, 2015 10:13 AM

    The Pats don’t cheat. LOL!

  137. pleasestopthesnow says: Sep 11, 2015 10:13 AM

    The whining and crying is hilarious. I mean its truly pathetic coming from a guy that blatantly tripped a player running for a TD and a bush league team that constantly cheap shots opposing players after the whistle.

    You got your butts kicked Steelers. Shut up Chef from South Park Tomlin and take your ass kicking like a man.

  138. muffedpunts says: Sep 11, 2015 10:14 AM

    bwaaaahahaha — maybe listening to zo would be a huge advantage compared to the stuttering stupidity that normally flows over those headphones.

    so now we’re blaming the ridiculous antonio brown double pass play call that took the steelers out of fg range on the sports hub?

    (oh, that’s right, the goal line is out of their fg range!)

    cheat on!

  139. hostilemaximus says: Sep 11, 2015 10:14 AM

    Our malfunction for losing in the playoffs was Leftwich.

  140. mattwalshvideo says: Sep 11, 2015 10:15 AM

    Cheaters always be cheating.

    Now that the NFL coaches are using iPads on the sidelines, how many Russian hackers do the deflatriots employ?

    Maybe that’s why Putin thought he deserved a ring.

  141. countmahdrof says: Sep 11, 2015 10:15 AM

    I love how Patriot* sycophants excuse obvious cheating by asserting that they would have won the game anyway. As if winning excuses poor sportsmanship.

  142. steelgriff6 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:16 AM

    Patriot fans are in complete denial that their team cheats. On to Buffa…………I mean, on to more ways to CHEAT!!

  143. hornbuckle says: Sep 11, 2015 10:16 AM

    Cheating bastards.

  144. unclerico14 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:16 AM

    With all of the bull sharts the Pats have dealt with this off season, do you really think they hatched a plan to bungle the Steelers headsets? Beat it.

  145. nhpats says: Sep 11, 2015 10:16 AM

    haminator says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:50 AM
    In all fairness they’ve brought this upon themselves. I don’t know if any of its true, but man where there is smoke there is usually fire. They’re always going to be under a cloud of suspicion, probably rightly so.

    —————–
    They have brought this on themselves. By beating teams on a regular basis such that those teams and their fans seethe with envy.

    Keep on whining…..the Pats will keep on winning.

  146. beach305 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:17 AM

    Al Davis of when the Raiders used to be as consistently good as New England has been for a long-time

    _______________________________

    The difference is that past commissioners swept everything under the rug. It was not a priority for them. Just look what happened with the snowplow incident which at the time was the worst form of cheating a team has ever done during a playoff game, and what Belichick would use to shape is philosophy 20 years later (If it’s not in the rule book, than it legal).

    The patriots were never fine, stripped of draft picks, or suspended by the commissioner. In fact the snowplow is actually a since of pride in New England to this day.

  147. neallday says: Sep 11, 2015 10:17 AM

    Majority of their superbowls they were won while they were roided up, now they are messing with headsets. SHOCKER

    TAINTED ******

  148. patsfansincegrogan says: Sep 11, 2015 10:18 AM

    Ok, do a google search “headsets malfunction nfl” and set the date to before 2013 ( to eliminate all the stories related to the Pats) and you get tons of stories about headsets not working at multiple venues.

  149. marypurn says: Sep 11, 2015 10:18 AM

    treye2 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:44 AM

    These things could be happening around the league with multiple teams but it’s not.

    Just the Patriots.

    —————————————————————

    It does happen around the league with multiple teams. People just let it slide — chalk it up to a tech malfunction, assume they don’t know all the facts — and rightly so. The only difference is that people love to hate the Patriots.

  150. STILLlolatpatshaters says: Sep 11, 2015 10:18 AM

    Pats defenders , even though the league provides the headsets, the league is not responsible for the connections. That’s on the home stadium; i.e. The Patriots/Gillette crew.
    Not saying it’s the only reason NE won but it didn’t help the Steelers.

    —-

    Nope. The frequencies are 100% the league’s responsibility. There is even a league job title for it. Look it up and learn:)

  151. twinbrooks says: Sep 11, 2015 10:19 AM

    The NFL controls the headsets and in game communication (QB/LB helmets)…..not the Patriots.

  152. williamannand says: Sep 11, 2015 10:19 AM

    It was obvious from the telecast that it was raining much harder on the Steelers sideline than on the Patriots’. Belichick is known to be an expert on meteorology.

  153. bleedgreenphilly says: Sep 11, 2015 10:19 AM

    Instead of chanting “Where’s Roger?” opposing teams fans should be chanting “Cheaters” when New England comes to visit.

  154. bayousooner90 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:20 AM

    Question Why the H isn’t the NFL in charge of Headsets and Game Balls, since they affect both teams wouldn’t it make sense for a less partial entity to be in charge of those things.
    Maybe it would cut down on all stupid words with gate at the end.

  155. stldot says: Sep 11, 2015 10:20 AM

    You would think the NFL could track it if someone was hacking into their communications. They should have safeguards at least with todays technology. I’m a Steelers fan and we got beat. I won’t jump to conclusions. It could have been a tech problem or even some tech genius wanting to cover their bet or even just screwing around. Of course with the Pats history it’s not hard to think the worse. But as a fan I can’t worry about what I can’t control. The more this kind of stuff happens the higher the chance someone with more authority and power will step in clean up this league.

  156. rollotomasi14 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:20 AM

    I see the Tin Foil Hat Brigade is out in full force today.

  157. guitarmaninks says: Sep 11, 2015 10:21 AM

    Laughable. NFL controls the headsets.

    WiFi easy hack

  158. bstngrdn says: Sep 11, 2015 10:21 AM

    1) The NFL controls the headsets.
    2) It was pouring rain before and during the game. Water and electronics don’t mix well.
    3) A lot of other electronic equipment is in use during these games. Multiple electronics in proximity to one another tends to cause interference.
    4) When headsets for one team are not operating correctly, the other team’s headsets are unplugged and that’s what happened last night.
    Talk about grasping at straws.

  159. scotatwater says: Sep 11, 2015 10:22 AM

    did anyone notice, that when pittsburgh had the ball,it rained harder?

  160. bushwoodcc says: Sep 11, 2015 10:22 AM

    megatronownsyou says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:43 AM
    But it’s either just a big coincidence or they’re all lying right Pats fans?
    ______________________________________

    The league, not the team, controls the headsets and the communications equipment.

  161. dansardo says: Sep 11, 2015 10:22 AM

    Why does this keep happening to the patriots?

    Because they have beaten and often humiliated just about every team in the league for 2 decades since 1995 and it started years before Belichick and Brady. Hell the pat’s first SB appearance during this stretch of success happened while Brady was still in high school.

    This run of unbelievable success began when the krafts bought the team in 1995 and anyone that thinks its going to end any time soon is fooling themselves.

    The yoyo’s that thought Brady wouldn’t be able to engineer the biggest 4th quarter comeback in SB history with an “deflated balls” just don’t appear to get it.

    There have been 29 teams in SB history have lead by 10 points or more in the 4th quarter and every one of those teams have won the SB…..until Brady’s historic performance

  162. purplehaze28 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:22 AM

    Each set of headsets works on a certain frequency.
    If you know the frequency, you can mess with it and broadcast whatever you want.

  163. nhpats says: Sep 11, 2015 10:23 AM

    The haters are feeling very butt hurt today. Last night they were supposed to be proven correct. And it was a perfect setup. A night game in the pouring rain. The Patriots were supposed to fumble over and over. Brady was supposed toss numerous interceptions due to his inability to hold and throw the fully inflated ball. And yet he was lights out. 19 straight completions…4 TDs. 79% completion percentage and a 145 QB rating.

    Yes….the haters are feeling butt-hurt this morning.

  164. hivelocityimpactsplatter says: Sep 11, 2015 10:23 AM

    danchan22 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:42 AM
    Is it completely irrelevant to you that the NFL controls all headset communications?

    Yes.
    It isn’t difficult to manipulate wireless communications in such an environment, even if they’re provided by a third party.

    And no, I don’t believe the Patriots had similar problems. But I do believe they would make that claim when confronted with yet another example of their profligate cheating.

  165. scotatwater says: Sep 11, 2015 10:23 AM

    the luna-coach is in my head….hahahahaha

  166. docsmith54 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:24 AM

    The NFL’s official statement said the weather had something (more likely than not, I gather) to do with the headsets’ interference issue. But eight months ago the weather was not a persuasive factor.

    Explanation: something said for consumption and obfuscation.

    Maybe the disgraced Ted ‘Guy Fawkes’ Wells has a new assignment.

    Rex is already thinking about the Pats for Game 2 before Game 1 allows a fan into the stands.

    Rush Limbaugh said years ago the NFL was getting effeminate. Can’t argue that, unless you’d prefer to use the term ‘adolescent’ instead.

  167. honeybadger14 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:25 AM

    The Gronk walk-in was clearly due to miscommunication so for Pats fan to say don’t blame the headset is funny.

    Those 2 missed kicks weren’t the headset and leaving 6 off the board and Pats in good field position…. They changed the holder on the 3rd attempt and had success so I assume blame falls on him.

    What we do know for fact is Patriots have been penalized in 2 instances for violating videotaping and equipment protocol (attendant taking balls unescorted to the bathroom).

    The football pressures are controlled by the league same as the headsets. Basically that means nothing. If you have the will or a Bill there is a way.

  168. thundersnacker says: Sep 11, 2015 10:26 AM

    I’ve worked RF (wireless communications- digital and analog) at MSG, US Open, and the theater district here in NYC. Unless the NFL has control over every wireless device in the stadium and it’s parking lot, anything can happen. There are way too many people using wireless in that stadium and if their techs aren’t talking to each other they could be sabotaging each other with cross talk, without even knowing. It does not take much.

    The part here that everyone is missing is that The Pats ALSO had issues with their head sets. In the mean time, every visiting team will be thinking about things outside of what their game plan should be. Pats are in everyone’s heads. Enjoy the obsessing folks.

  169. gcstephen13 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:26 AM

    Pats fans.. please think Hard. (Hahaha what am i thinking) It is not that hard to interfere with a headset signal. Pretty easy. This has been going on for years. This is not a one time thing! Fix this NFL enough is enough!

  170. usa98j30t4 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:27 AM

    THE NFL CONTROLS THE COMMUNICATION. IT HAPPENED ON BOTH SIDES.

    IT’S ALL ABOUT COACHING AND WE HAVE THE BEST.

    The biggest communication issue was the Pittsburgh secondary who couldn’t get out of their own way.

  171. scotatwater says: Sep 11, 2015 10:28 AM

    cant kick field goals,cant stop tight ends,cant score from the 1 yard line. its got to be the headsets dammit!

  172. padronebradfather says: Sep 11, 2015 10:29 AM

    in the mouths of two or three witnesses shall every word be established but this gives us FIVE. OK…Mike Tomlin’s not a liar folks

  173. vyke4lyfe says: Sep 11, 2015 10:30 AM

    I suppose that is how the Steelers lost last night????? NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT
    Combo platter of the Greatest QB of all time surgically carving another notch into his B@D@$$ legacy & The Steelers self imploding @ the worst possible times!!
    They got cute and tried a horrible trick play that took them the wrong direction after moving the ball famously on the opening drive. Then, Multiple missed field goals. A botched goal line drive , that once again took them the wrong way! DHB not knowing where the out of bounds marker was, voiding a TD grab my 7 yr old could have made! Steelers offense moved the ball @ will but just made too many mistakes , in addition to poor clock management … But, it couldn’t be that ?? No???? It has to be some trumped up conspiracy that the Pats organization just constantly cheats?? Go away!!! It’s just as garbage as the last TD Ben threw to Brown in Garbage time, giving casual fans the illusion the game was closer than it was, and that the headset communication couldn’t have made a difference!!!! ONCE AGAIN, NOT NOT NOT NOT
    I’m a Viking fan, that loves the and respects Tom Brady and Co. But instead of making up excuses why my Vikings couldn’t beat them, I just flat out respect them, and hops our MN team can emulate their system , and achieve that kind of decade of dominance!!!

  174. dmnirican says: Sep 11, 2015 10:30 AM

    Lots of Pats fans pointing out that the league is attempting to take the blame for it by acknowledging that they provide the headsets, not the home team.

    Those same Pats fans apparently failed to notice the other part of the league’s statement where they stated, “The home team is responsible for the installation and maintenance of that equipment.”

    So yes- the league provided the headsets/equipment. But the PAts are responsible for hooking them up and making sure they’re running properly. Doesn’t matter how great the equipment is, if the system they’re hooked up to is designed to do certain things.

    I don’t know if the Pats are actually doing anything, but there’s so much smoke coming from Foxboro on this topic (and it’s been going for YEARS) that there’s at least got to be a small fire burning there somewhere.

  175. whatjusthapped says: Sep 11, 2015 10:30 AM

    Think about it for just a moment, your underlying organization culture is to cheat, you just spent the entire off season battling a legal system that has given you a green light to cheat, and now the first game back, are you going to stop a practice of jamming the NFL’s own equipment in brazen attempt to gain the upper hand?

    I don’t think so, the NFL is handcuffed in the matter because it is their equipment that is at the center of this and they more they look into it, the louder the cry from New England that they are being unfairly targeted for…..(wait for it) CHEATING

  176. STILLlolatpatshaters says: Sep 11, 2015 10:30 AM

    I counted 1 fumble last night.

    Patriot Hater: “BUT BUT WATCH CHEETRIOTS FUMBLE AWL DA TIME FROM FULLY INFLATED FOOTBALLS”

    Tee hee:)

    #PatriotHaterPwnedAgain
    #AsUsual
    #WhatElseIsNew

  177. rhettridley says: Sep 11, 2015 10:31 AM

    treye2 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:44 AM
    It’s just gotten too obvious with this team, no other team has as many allegations against them like the Patriots.

    These things could be happening around the league with multiple teams but it’s not.

    Just the Patriots.
    ———————————————————————–

    Actually this DOES happen around the league on a regular basis. Also let us not forget the fact, Patriot haters love to ignore facts, that the NFL controls these communications not the Patriots. But hey, it wouldn’t be a story if it only stuck to the facts. I am most definitely NOT a Patriots fan but this crap is ridiculous in every sense of the word.
    Be better and go beat the Patriots without all this whining like a 10 yr old full of excuses.

  178. STILLlolatpatshaters says: Sep 11, 2015 10:32 AM

    gcstephen13 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 10:26 AM
    Pats fans.. please think Hard. (Hahaha what am i thinking) It is not that hard to interfere with a headset signal. Pretty easy. This has been going on for years. This is not a one time thing! Fix this NFL enough is enough!


    Cool story bro. Only problem is the league is in charge of the frequencies:)

  179. dickroy says: Sep 11, 2015 10:33 AM

    I am not a technical expert, but even though the NFL supplies the headsets I would still thing that the stadium power or infrastructure would have some involvement in the frequency.
    As for the Patriots cheating or not, its like if someone is caught twice cheating on their spouse any rumor or accusation from then on would make it hard to believe its not true. A reputation can be destroyed in one minute but can take a lifetime to repair.
    And the Steelers did not loose because of the headsets!

  180. bearsalwaysbearit says: Sep 11, 2015 10:34 AM

    I’m just tired of hearing about the Pats. Have they cheated before? Yes, Spygate is the proof, but this is getting out of control. I think NE pushes the rules to the edge and sometimes breaks them but every time something happens in NE doesn’t mean it was purposely done by the Pats.

    The weather was bad and head set malfunctions happen all the time in the NFL. Maybe it happens more at NE than any other stadium, but this isn’t new.

    Also, Pat fans you have to understand that people aren’t after you. A lot of this is brought on by the Patriots themselves. Then you come up with horrible excuses like they would have won anyway, or people are out to get us, that’s absurd. If your team is so good then they shouldn’t need to bend or break the rules to win, but in this case I don’t think there is an issue.

  181. danlmarsh says: Sep 11, 2015 10:34 AM

    It amazes me that A coach who just got completed out-coached, can whine about the NFL operated communications system and blame the Patriots, without being ridiculed by the media.

    How about telling us how in the world Gronk can line up wide and not be covered?

    Maybe the NFL should reduce their legal budget and invest it in new communications technology. Let’s see how aggressive the NFL is at knocking down this story.

  182. sb44champs says: Sep 11, 2015 10:35 AM

    The league, not the team, controls the headsets and the communications equipment.
    ======================
    Not true… the league controls the USE of the headsets but not the technical aspects… That’s why the headsets miraculously work properly every time a ref inspects and then miraculously starts to malfunction again as soon as the refs go back to the sideline.

  183. 00otto says: Sep 11, 2015 10:37 AM

    for all you folks saying the NFL controls the headsets….HOW DOPEY CAN YOU BE…….you can jam signals that someone else controls….come on now…..not saying the pats did…it can even be done by a fan

  184. thetwilightsown says: Sep 11, 2015 10:38 AM

    The NFL issues the headsets – they don’t “control them” – that is a job bid out to outside vendors. For a team so fond of pointing out the “excuses” of damn near everyone else, Pats**** fan sure does have an excuse on the ready for EVERY ACCUSATION. Not surprising – they’ve had plenty of practice.

    My theory – and a legit, informed one: it’s a member of the ever so fair and loyal fan base with a directional transponder and a rig you could buy at Radio Shack.

  185. sb44champs says: Sep 11, 2015 10:39 AM

    Cool story bro. Only problem is the league is in charge of the frequencies
    ===========================
    Love how Pats fans just make stuff up as they go lol

  186. cboys4life2014 says: Sep 11, 2015 10:40 AM

    Though this headset issue seems a tad overblown, if in fact the NFL is responsible for the connections, the truth is none of us really know how it works and the fact that Goodell has tossed around the idea of modifying headset communications so teams can’t tamper with opposition headsets goes to show that tampering with them is possible. Patriot fans act like everybody just loves to hate their team but the only criticism I’ve seen towards NE is about the shady occurrences that seem to keep happening. Wether or not there’s any truth to this accusation or others Pats fans should stop acting like there’s no basis for it and admit that some things seem shady instead of making excuses and defending it all. As a Cowboy fan who, like other Cowboy fans, had to deal with bad draft day decisions and FA signings by Jerry Jones and heard all the criticism of him for it, even though I love my team, finally had to acknowledge and accept that there was something to it all and that my teams front office sucked and recent history proved it. Perhaps NE fans should acknowledge and accept that their team has a difficult time playing by the rules and recent history has proved that.

  187. deadlevelbest says: Sep 11, 2015 10:41 AM

    I love all the Pats fans that haven’t read the rule book claiming that the NFL controls the coach-to-coach headsets.

    Of course, if Pats fans read the rule book they wouldn’t be Pats fans.

  188. deadlevelbest says: Sep 11, 2015 10:42 AM

    danlmarsh: Belichick caused Brown to step on the sideline when he caught his pass, AND Scobee to miss 2 FGs? WOW he’s a much better coach than we thought!

  189. j huber says: Sep 11, 2015 10:42 AM

    Maybe there is a scientific formula to explain why the headsets went out? Football on a rainy night at … Not enough volts in system… Com’on tell me a story…

  190. icabodslip says: Sep 11, 2015 10:43 AM

    Viking fan still must be p.o. the way the Steelers destroyed their loser organization in the Super Bowl all those years ago:)

  191. STILLlolatpatshaters says: Sep 11, 2015 10:44 AM

    Ernie Adams pushed a button and activated the high tech device that made the Steelers defenders stay clear of covering Gronk.
    :)

  192. richndc says: Sep 11, 2015 10:46 AM

    Let’s clear this up on this article for the ALL CAPS mouth breathing Pats* fans here as well. The NFL is not “in charge” of headsets. NFL provides the headseats and requires teams to use them because they have the NFL branding on them. Now you see BOSE on them all as well as BOSE is now a major sponsor. (which is funny because in the pro AV world, BOSE neither makes nor sells pro gear, certainly not headsets, but thats another matter). NFL does not supply, control, or operate the stadiums infrastructure that supports these headsets. I know this from working pro games, as do many of my pro brethren. It would be very, very easy for anyone working this equipment to switch signals on and off, mix in audio that was not part of the coaches booth, or just pull audio lines, kill power, whatever. Very, very easy. Stupid as well. But, it would seem from comments on every pats article posted, that stupid is a prerequisite for being a Pats* fan these days. Dont shout about that which you know nothing about. Why does this keep coming in with the Pats*? Why did Atlanta get penalized for pumping in fake crowd noise and nothing has ever been done about this issue? Its a legit question.

  193. ithinktoomuchaboutstuff says: Sep 11, 2015 10:48 AM

    In my 61 years I have never seen such jealousy expand into such insanity.

  194. STILLlolatpatshaters says: Sep 11, 2015 10:48 AM

    Funny…on a related note… the NFL collected ball PSI data last night for the first time… and they are being curiously quiet about it today. You’d think they would have been happy to leak this info if it fit the agenda but oddly enough….silence.

    Hmmm. I wonder why.:)

    #PoorPatriotHater
    #ULoseAgain
    #HeyJustLikeYourTeam

  195. saveusterrelldavis says: Sep 11, 2015 10:49 AM

    It was your typical first game of the season until the headsets became distorted, the arena lights went out, and THE UNDERTAKER made his entrance. As his eyes rolled back into the back of his head and he grimaces at bill belicheck…OH MY GAWD! It’s STONE COLD TOM BRADY STONE COLD TOM BRADY STONE COLD TOM BRADY

  196. STILLlolatpatshaters says: Sep 11, 2015 10:51 AM

    Love how Pats fans just make stuff up as they go lol


    Tee hee.:) For Patriot Hater the saying is SO true that denial is just not a river in Egypt!
    :)

  197. richndc says: Sep 11, 2015 10:52 AM

    I did enjoy hearing the “where’s roger” I am sick of the Pats, their fans, them skirting the rules and smirking–but I hate Goodell even more. I hope this “where’s roger” thing goes viral. hes made a big mess and has yet to man up to any of it. putz.

  198. flaccodelic says: Sep 11, 2015 10:53 AM

    Any Pats fan going on about how the NFL controls the headsets and so thus the Patriots couldn’t affect them needs to stop and think a minute.

    Sure, the NFL hosts the radio transmisions. But each team is given a two-way radio frequency. It is incredibly easy to jam a frequency or to start (and stop) simultaneously broadcasting a competing, stronger signal over the same frequency.

    But no, the NFL “controls” the communications. Just like Pats fans believe the NFL has controlled everything else so completely and thoroughly?

    Come on, man, which is it?

  199. mdobrasz says: Sep 11, 2015 10:55 AM

    The Patriots are the slimiest team in all of sports. BB is at the root of it all too. They work hard at finding ways to cheat and to just barely skirt the rules.
    I sincerely hope they place an * next to their SB wins in the NFL record books.

  200. p4tri0ts says: Sep 11, 2015 10:56 AM

    Why in the hell do you think after the spygate and deflate gate drama would Patriots go out and cheat the very first game? Especially since the whole world accept pats nation think they cheat all the time… And are definitely under leagues microscope. People are so ignorant it’s not even funny

  201. swineflooo says: Sep 11, 2015 10:57 AM

    Are all these people sure it wasnt the black helicopters following them?

  202. diehardgiantsfan says: Sep 11, 2015 10:57 AM

    diehardgiantsfan says:
    Sep 8, 2015 10:29 AM
    It’s only Pats fans who think they have a dynasty. Belicheat hires 3 men to come up with ways to cheat so they cheat 100 ways every week to beat the 2 win Jags and brag. The players don’t have a choice. They’re all tarnished. You guys keep forgetting what you’re not getting caught at. Belicheat needed to cheat because he had the worst QB and roster ever.

    I celebrate real successful franchises. Not fake ones. I don’t hate untarnished real winners.

    Packers 13
    Bears 9
    Giants 8
    Steelers 6
    Niners 5
    Cowboys 5
    There’s a bunch with 4, 3, 2, and 1 without cheating.

    **** puts the Pats at -4. That’s what the Pats fans call the greatest dynasty ever when every other NFL team has a classier tesm to root for. They won 0 without the greatest cheating coach in NFL history.

  203. lalnh says: Sep 11, 2015 10:57 AM

    buddy8675309 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:59 AM
    Viking fan here. Come on Pats fan, cheating is cheating. Brady and Belicheck are cheaters. Nice role models for kids. SMH

    Oh wait, that’s right, we should have them look up to Adrian Peterson. Hey, did the team go on another party cruise lately. Yeah, that’s always family entertainment.

    SMH – #glass houses

  204. billytodd2013blbaad says: Sep 11, 2015 10:58 AM

    Make no mistake, as a Steeler fan I will say that the loss was on the defense for not being able to cover or stop anyone in a patriots uniform last night..no other reason! With the exception of the refs missing a few very obvious calls against the pats and the pats once again calling out snap counts while on defense. The fact is the Steelers defense is a work in progress and until the coaching staff gets their collective head out of their rears this defense will continue to stuggle.

  205. clickablecontent says: Sep 11, 2015 10:58 AM

    Smoke. Fire.

  206. PegulaBucks says: Sep 11, 2015 10:58 AM

    they did it out of spite to the NFL. Take me to court they say…you have a great track record there Roger.

  207. jasonculhane says: Sep 11, 2015 10:59 AM

    There’s a rule about this and that the NFL is supposed to enforce it. I don’t think it has nothing to do with the outcome of last night but it seemed the Steelers were disorganized during certain drives of the first half.

    I think the NFL and the owners who wanted to see the patriots punished will leak any if not all shady information about the patriots. The NFL is like the mafia, Brady got pinched and they wanted to see him take it like a man. He didn’t and now we’ll see the floodgates open. I think you’ll see a lot of people come forward, and you’ll see a lot of hard evidence now. Then ultimately the Patriots will turn into the Oakland Raiders a franchise despised by owners and it’s commissioner. Not talking about manipulating games, more like certain things will hard for them moving forward like the benefit of the doubt, and who knows maybe the owners get together and decide these guys get zero draft picks for each years they cheated or a draft pick for each team they filmed

  208. swineflooo says: Sep 11, 2015 10:59 AM

    Im still waiting for Ted Wells to investigate the steelers and their team doctor who was caught with $150k worth of steroids and hgh

  209. rogerbueno11 says: Sep 11, 2015 11:00 AM

    The Patriots were better last night. That being said,

    ***** CHEATERS WILL CHEAT*****

  210. ebdug says: Sep 11, 2015 11:00 AM

    The Patriot support personnel do a great job of taking advantage of the NFL, and the team itself does a great job of taking advantage of their taking advantage of the NFL. It doesn’t mean they are behind it, it could be Joe Bonano and that gang.

    Regardless, when you stack the headset tampering on top of the football deflating, the only thing we can be sure of is that the league is run by the most gullible people on the planet.

  211. TheWizard says: Sep 11, 2015 11:02 AM

    But it’s either just a big coincidence or they’re all lying right Pats fans?

    Or, some are just too dense to have heard in the first 5 minutes that the league supplies and controls all communications.

    Not to mention that all headsets are shut down when one side is malfunctioning.

  212. swineflooo says: Sep 11, 2015 11:02 AM

    jasonculhane says:
    Sep 11, 2015 10:59 AM
    There’s a rule about this and that the NFL is supposed to enforce it. I don’t think it has nothing to do with the outcome of last night but it seemed the Steelers were disorganized during certain drives of the first half.

    I think the NFL and the owners who wanted to see the patriots punished will leak any if not all shady information about the patriots. The NFL is like the mafia, Brady got pinched and they wanted to see him take it like a man. He didn’t and now we’ll see the floodgates open. I think you’ll see a lot of people come forward, and you’ll see a lot of hard evidence now. Then ultimately the Patriots will turn into the Oakland Raiders a franchise despised by owners and it’s commissioner. Not talking about manipulating games, more like certain things will hard for them moving forward like the benefit of the doubt, and who knows maybe the owners get together and decide these guys get zero draft picks for each years they cheated or a draft pick for each team they filmed

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    Wait what!? Filming from the sidelines wasnt prohibited until the 2006 season. So what are you talking about?

  213. tigerlilac says: Sep 11, 2015 11:04 AM

    So, the Patriots are responsible for perenial losers like the the
    Jaguars, Martz, Dansby, and the Bengals being losers and for Tomlinson being on the hot seat for not winning?

    We had some relatives that thought that we had more money than them and should give them one of our cars. I am not making this up. Losers often think someone else is responsible for where they end up in life and truly believe they are owed something. It could be a win or it could be a car. Either or it’s delusional.

  214. thebirdofprey2 says: Sep 11, 2015 11:04 AM

    The stink that comes off this team of cheats is foul.

    ****

  215. guitarkevin says: Sep 11, 2015 11:05 AM

    It doesn’t mater that the NFL “controls” the headsets. If Han and Chewie can jam a Tie Fighter’s transmission to the Death Star, then surely the Pats can tamper with the opposing teams headsets…

  216. Judge Smails says: Sep 11, 2015 11:06 AM

    moosey7195 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 10:03 AM
    Judge Smails says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:49 AM

    While the NFL does control the headsets, that doesn’t mean that someone isn’t jamming them.

    As a fan of an NFC team, I don’t have strong feelings one way or the other on the Patriots, but boy, when there is smoke…..
    _____________________
    I don’t believe jamming a radio signal has the effect of bleeding in the Pats radio broadcast of the game. I’m pretty sure jamming a radio signal just makes static. But hey, let’s ignore that NE had issues too.

    And sometimes, where there is smoke, there’s a ginger moron worth 44M annually playing with smoke bombs.
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    All it takes is for someone with a repeater to repeat the Patriots broadcast at a strong enough signal at the right frequency and boom! interference.

    Or, someone could have been tampering with the system. These systems are pretty complex and there are a lot of places where someone could do just that.

  217. TomsulasMustache says: Sep 11, 2015 11:09 AM

    And here we go again. Maybe all of these teams should take the issue up with the NFL League office seeing as THE NFL IS IN CHARGE OF RADIOS FOR BOTH TEAMS !!
    ____________________________________

    That actually isn’t true, per NFL.com. Bose digital wireless technology was given to the teams and team’s like the Patriots use their own analog amplification box, allowing for interference.

    Look guys, Armstrong did it, Mayweather did it, the Patriots do it. At this level you must find ways to cut corners if you want to consistently be the best. That’s the shame in professional sports.

  218. truecowboyfan says: Sep 11, 2015 11:10 AM

    I think this was just bad communication period. Nothing intentional. For one reason, do you really think that a team with as much heat as the Pats have would do anything to cheat intentional? I actually do not see it… It’s not logical. They are innocent on this one.

  219. robt927 says: Sep 11, 2015 11:11 AM

    Who is really surprised by this? Cheaters, cheat. I bet more Patriots fans were on Ashley Madison than any other NFL team.But that too was probably somebody else that made them sign up.
    As long as Belicheat and Brady on on the sidelines, everything they accomplish will have an asterisk next to it.

  220. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 11, 2015 11:20 AM

    “These things could be happening around the league with multiple teams but it’s not.

    Just the Patriots.”

    Please don’t blatantly lie just to satisfy your Pats hate. All 32 teams have been accused of messing with the headsets of the visiting teams.

    All 32 teams have also repeated been accused and at times found guilty of some sort of cheating so stop the holier than thou lies and bs.

  221. granadafan says: Sep 11, 2015 11:20 AM

    Sigh, do we really have to explain to you Pats fans just how easy it is to jam radios, especially if it’s your stadium? Seriously, you already misunderstood the Ideal Gas Law explanation even though prominent physicists already told you that you were wrong.

  222. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 11, 2015 11:21 AM

    ” the pats once again calling out snap counts while on defense. ”

    Uh no, calling out defensive adjustments is not calling out snap counts.

  223. somethinghappeninghere says: Sep 11, 2015 11:22 AM

    SpyGate and DeflateGate? Yep, the Pats cheated. But HeadsetGate? Ridiculous–my headset hooked up to my laptop goes out often in one ear and occasionally in both ears–and I live in Texas!

    Headsets were not the reason Steelers lost–the Steelers lost because they now have a crappy defense! Unless they fix it soon, they are not making the playoffs. (Wildcard teams will be Dolphins and Bills!)

  224. holeinone09 says: Sep 11, 2015 11:23 AM

    When the Patriots are on the road, I expect the home team fans to be chanting “Cheeee-teeers” loudly everytime NE has the ball. Cheaters. They will never ever live this legacy down and 99% of non-NE fans will never give them credit for anything they achieve.

    Cheaters!!

  225. edelmanfanclub says: Sep 11, 2015 11:23 AM

    If you want to strip the Patriots of their SBs you have to strip the Gmen of their early superbowls. Everyone knows Belichick, not Parcells was the reason behind them.

  226. johnnybuc44 says: Sep 11, 2015 11:27 AM

    The Pats and their fans can cry all they want, but the stink of cheating will never, ever go away for them.

  227. footballfan17 says: Sep 11, 2015 11:28 AM

    The statement reads: In the first quarter of tonight’€™s game, the Pittsburgh coaches experienced interference in their headsets caused by a stadium power infrastructure issue, which was exacerbated by the inclement weather. The coaches’€™ communications equipment, including the headsets, is provided by the NFL for both clubs use on game day. Once the power issue was addressed, the equipment functioned properly with no additional issues
    This from the NFL. Tomlin knows this. Still think this is not sour grapes.

  228. midenginerearwheeldrive says: Sep 11, 2015 11:28 AM

    daveydawg says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:49 AM
    You all just can’t handle the fact that we’re better than you.
    _________

    ‘We’ are better than you? You play for the Patriots.

    I’m assuming you mean the Patriots are better.

    That’s fine, but last I checked, the Patriots don’t win the SB every year.

    Patriots fans acting as if they are the only team in the NFL to win games. The Patriots won the SB in February. They hadn’t won one in 10 years prior. They lost one in 2012.

    The Steelers have also made 3 SuperBowls in that timespan, winning two, losing one.

    I’m neither a Steelers nor Patriots fan, but suggesting that Patriots are the only team to win football games in the NFL and every else are ‘losers’ is simply false.

  229. ashleyschafferbmw says: Sep 11, 2015 11:29 AM

    freddypatsfan says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:40 AM
    When you can’t cover Gronk, blame the headsets.

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    Well, its started happening in the first half well before Gronk caught his first pass so……………………..

  230. moosey7195 says: Sep 11, 2015 11:31 AM

    Judge Smails says:
    Sep 11, 2015 11:06 AM

    moosey7195 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 10:03 AM
    Judge Smails says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:49 AM

    While the NFL does control the headsets, that doesn’t mean that someone isn’t jamming them.

    As a fan of an NFC team, I don’t have strong feelings one way or the other on the Patriots, but boy, when there is smoke…..
    _____________________
    I don’t believe jamming a radio signal has the effect of bleeding in the Pats radio broadcast of the game. I’m pretty sure jamming a radio signal just makes static. But hey, let’s ignore that NE had issues too.

    And sometimes, where there is smoke, there’s a ginger moron worth 44M annually playing with smoke bombs.
    ===================================

    All it takes is for someone with a repeater to repeat the Patriots broadcast at a strong enough signal at the right frequency and boom! interference.

    Or, someone could have been tampering with the system. These systems are pretty complex and there are a lot of places where someone could do just that.
    ____________
    Judge, none of that matters. It’s called the equity rule. The NFL oversees every single radio frequency in the entire stadium. That means they can hear the Steelers radio. And what the equity rules does, is that when a technological malfunction occurs on ones teams radio, the league cuts off the other teams radio. That’s what happened to the Patriots last night. So any thoughts anyone might have of Ernie Adams sitting in a tree pointing a repeater at Mike Tomlin’s headset doesn’t make sense. Do you think the Patriots aren’t aware of who monitors the radio frequencies? Or that they don’t know what the equity rule is? Why and how could they gain a competitive advantage when purposely blocking another teams radio frequency only serves to turn off their own radios?

  231. midenginerearwheeldrive says: Sep 11, 2015 11:31 AM

    I have no dog in this hunt as I’m a Bears fan, which brings with it it’s own need for therapy.

    But…

    Outside of the Anaheim Ducks, is there a more unlikeable team in sports besides the Patriots?

    And before everyone chimes in with the obligatory ‘hater’ crap or the ‘that’s cuz we win’ – remember, there are many other teams in the NFL who win games. The Patriots aren’t the only team who wins games and SuperBowls. And that would include the Steelers.

  232. midenginerearwheeldrive says: Sep 11, 2015 11:36 AM

    dave399 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:53 AM
    Patsfan1960 just summed it up:

    Opponents routinely cry “cheater” whenever they get the floor mopped with themselves by the Patriots. But never so much as a peep when they (rarely) beat them.

    Funny how that works. Huh?
    _______________________

    Did they really get the floor mopped? While the Steelers secondary looked horrific, I did notice the Steelers marching up and down the field and ultimately demised by their own mistakes (2 missed field goals, terrible trick play call, sideline awareness by Heyward-Bey, false start at goalline).

    Eliminate those mistakes and it’s a shootout.

    The NE offense looked fantastic against a terrible defense. You know what other offense looked fantastic? The Steelers. Almost 500 yards of offense, including a 97 year old running back going for big chunk after big chunk.

    I wouldn’t get too excited and I wouldn’t expect other teams to shoot themselves in the foot the way the Steelers did.

    I saw two teams last night with defensive issues. One with a terrible secondary and one with a front 4 that was run all over and a SB hero now starting and getting torched all game.

  233. Great Caesar's Ghost says: Sep 11, 2015 11:37 AM

    “NFL controls the headsets” everyone says. I have only seen this in comments. Source?

  234. eagles512 says: Sep 11, 2015 11:37 AM

    Who knows if anything was deliberately done but the NFL being responsible for the headsets means nothing. Of course someone could still tamper with them.

  235. cadreamer1969 says: Sep 11, 2015 11:39 AM

    When you have to reach back to 2006, you do have an agenda. Guess you never heard of the story how Bill Walsh was told by Parcells if it’s done again there will be trouble. And Walsh smiled.

  236. stoopidfool says: Sep 11, 2015 11:40 AM

    C’mon losers……only 5?

  237. stoopidfool says: Sep 11, 2015 11:41 AM

    The jets had problems in Pittsburgh during afcc……but that was different…..stupid losers

  238. moosey7195 says: Sep 11, 2015 11:49 AM

    I stand corrected Judge. The NFL didn’t shut down NE’s headset. But I guess NE was having their own issue with the radio. And my overall point about purposely trying to gain an advantage this way still stands. It doesn’t make sense

  239. daysend564 says: Sep 11, 2015 11:54 AM

    truecowboyfan says:
    Sep 11, 2015 11:10 AM
    I think this was just bad communication period. Nothing intentional. For one reason, do you really think that a team with as much heat as the Pats have would do anything to cheat intentional? I actually do not see it… It’s not logical. They are innocent on this one.
    ————————
    Or they now view themselves as above punishment. Probably what Kraft and Berman were “mingling” about.

  240. dansardo says: Sep 11, 2015 12:00 PM

    “honeybadger14 says:
    Sep 11, 2015 10:25 AM
    The Gronk walk-in was clearly due to miscommunication so for Pats fan to say don’t blame the headset is funny.”

    No it isn’t funny. what is funny is that you don’t understand that the communication problem was between coaches not coaches and players and that they were resolved well before gronk or anyone else scored a TD

    Very funny stuff.

  241. adrianbeatason says: Sep 11, 2015 12:02 PM

    Patriot fans are saying:
    “Well it happened for the Patriots too so, case closed, it wasn’t intentional and it didn’t help the Patriots.”

    But if a team had knowledge ahead of time that this was going to happen they would be much better equipped to handle things when it did happen and would constitute a serious advantage during the game.

    Coincidentally, or not, the Patriots won the first half when this issue was present, and lost the second half when it was not.

    Just saying.

    Also, the timing of the various claims of headset issues does seem suspicious to me as well. We know the Patriots like to be vindictive after being caught cheating so maybe this is there way of “running up the score” on the league after trying to take Brady out.

    Usually where there is smoke there is fire.

    Just saying.

  242. boomerst3 says: Sep 11, 2015 12:11 PM

    Steelers were lucky Brady was distracted all summer and didn’t play well in preseason. If he wasn’t rusty he would have had 6 TD passes. Just missed wide open Amendola and overthrew wide open screen to the little running back. With 3 rookie offensive linesmen, and a D with new defensive backs.

  243. youstontx says: Sep 11, 2015 12:26 PM

    I love how fans of NE go to the whole whatever, Gronk had 3 TD’s, or make some reference to the fact that even if this did happen, the Patriots would still win.

    Integrity of the game counts. When this game, league, or even team loses its integrity, then it loses the reason for playing this game. There are no winners in a league with no integrity.

    There have been longstanding issues with the Patriots and it seems like the rest of the NFL is just getting fed up that they seem to continually look for unethical ways to win games, instead of just getting out and playing.

    If they are good enough to win, regardless of the tactics they use, then stop using those tactics. I think they’re good enough to win without the tactics and the unethical behavior, so just do it that way.

    This is getting out of control, but when there have been this many instances, there is something to it. I think when it gets to a point of an opposing coach going on camera and on record to insinuate cheating, then there may be something to it, on the bigger picture.

  244. padronebradfather says: Sep 11, 2015 12:27 PM

    just officially talked to my boss, the chief engineer at our radio stations in south-central Utah. He said the Patriots would have been fully capable of tampering with the Steelers’ headsets if we know the frequencies.

  245. padronebradfather says: Sep 11, 2015 12:27 PM

    *if the Patriots know the frequencies, excuse me.

  246. vonmillertime says: Sep 11, 2015 12:32 PM

    audio2sell says:
    Sep 11, 2015 9:42 AM
    Laughable. NFL controls the headsets.
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    The NFL does not “control” the atmosphere through which radio waves travel. Anyone with the right equipment can jam radio frequencies any time, anywhere he likes. I believe I learned this in 10th grade physics…

  247. mmack66 says: Sep 11, 2015 12:37 PM

    magicmtndan says:
    Sep 11, 2015 10:07 AM

    Move all Pats “home games” to a neutral site so visiting teams can focus on football instead of all the BS the Pats put teams through in Cheats-boro, MA.
    ———————–

    Yeah, right. Then what pathetic excuses will the teams defeated by the Patriots be able to use?

  248. Wes says: Sep 11, 2015 12:39 PM

    Everyone knows Bill Belichick is totally innocent, just like Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton.

    Kraft: Oh BILL…..come back to bed!

  249. dana10259 says: Sep 11, 2015 12:39 PM

    belichick is the nfls boogey man. this is so much fun watching weak people blame the boogeyman for their teams losses. the true tomlin comes out. what a weak coach.

  250. krycek21 says: Sep 11, 2015 12:41 PM

    Nimrod, it is not the Headset, it is the signal. There are handheld options to disrupt a signal, and then the nearest broadcast might feed in. A best practice would be for an NFL official on each bench also get a headset and they can monitor the feed is audible and the same quality, then make the call to either pull all headsets or not. The Giants used to open and shut the doors to create wind issues for other teams kickers, but this is more nefarious. With today’s tech, it should be easy to find where this jamming is coming from, either bench area or upper press box where the assistant coach is located, that would be my first best guess. Interesting or creative wiring ala the Saints. Sad to see that a level playing field is tilted for what is supposed to be a patriot, not a coward.

  251. bbfe says: Sep 11, 2015 12:44 PM

    If you actually haven’t seen the video of Mike Tomlin trying to trip a player running down the sidelines, you need to watch it. Then just imagine if that was Bill Belichick doing that…. Oh the humanity.

  252. 2since96 says: Sep 11, 2015 12:45 PM

    The NFL does run the systems…so its impossible that a person with technical abilities in radio communications could figure a way to keep them from working properly…LOL

    The Pat’s fans argument is silly. It’s like saying that Sony website wasnt hacked, because Sony controlled it. Yeah, they did, and someone who knew a thing or two still found a way to exploit it.

    ****

  253. linji45thgen says: Sep 11, 2015 12:46 PM

    As a Jets fan I don’t want to hear any crybaby, whiney, b*tchy excuses about why my team couldn’t beat the Patriots. Period.

  254. srg608 says: Sep 11, 2015 12:47 PM

    Why in the hell do you think after the spygate and deflate gate drama would Patriots go out and cheat the very first game? Especially since the whole world accept pats nation think they cheat all the time… And are definitely under leagues microscope. People are so ignorant it’s not even funny

    Because they are arrogant SOB’s that have embraced a culture of cheating and they feel like they can do anything they want, AND get away with it! And all while their fans support them, because all the fans care about is winning – just like the team…..

  255. youstontx says: Sep 11, 2015 1:35 PM

    “Why in the hell do you think after the spygate and deflate gate drama would Patriots go out and cheat the very first game? Especially since the whole world accept pats nation think they cheat all the time… And are definitely under leagues microscope. People are so ignorant it’s not even funny”

    Usually, the straw that breaks the camel’s back is pretty insignificant, in the grand scheme of things. This was a reaction from a coach who, like other coaches and teams, has had enough.

    Headset issues are not exactly uncommon, but it wouldn’t be hard for a team to be intentionally negligent when handling the NFL-provided equipment. Yes, the NFL provides it, but it is the responsibility of the home team to maintain it.

  256. mmack66 says: Sep 11, 2015 1:53 PM

    midenginerearwheeldrive says:
    Sep 11, 2015 11:31 AM

    I have no dog in this hunt as I’m a Bears fan, which brings with it it’s own need for therapy.

    But…

    Outside of the Anaheim Ducks, is there a more unlikeable team in sports besides the Patriots?
    ——————————–

    Jets, Redskins, Browns, 49ers

    Yankees

    I’m sure there are a lot more.

  257. tangovader says: Sep 11, 2015 2:48 PM

    Maybe last night was a coincidence or a fluke, but I don’t think Tomlin’s the kind of coach to be whining or looking for excuses. His track record tells you that he is a man that tends to take responsibility and hold his players accountable.

    Out of all 32 coaches, he would be the last one I would suspect of making something out of nothing just to find a built-in excuse for poor play. I think Tomlin’s reputation for being a stand up type of dude, is a big part of the reason why this story has legs.

    So what do you take from all this? I don’t know. Pats may be innocent this time, but they’ve earned that cloud of suspicion. It’s one thing to have the media and the commish making accusations, but when your peers start bringing attention to this stuff, it’s hard to think they’re all just haters.

  258. jfcol says: Sep 11, 2015 4:06 PM

    Sure, the NFL controls the headsets, but the Patriots control the stadium. Setting up a jamming device that could lock into the frequency would be easy.

  259. bigbenschancre says: Sep 11, 2015 4:31 PM

    New Pats theme song: “We be jammin'”

  260. einherjer00 says: Sep 11, 2015 6:22 PM

    I remember that Lions game. We outplayed them all day, malfunctions came at a critical time in the fourth quarter when the Lions were rolling and fixin’ to put the Pats in deep trouble. I dunno if the Pats cheated, but it was highly suspect and could very well have affected the outcome.

  261. toybkshr says: Sep 11, 2015 6:26 PM

    @ californiaqid says:
    Sep 11, 2015 10:10 AM
    An entire organization of cheaters. Disgusting. ———————————————————————————
    Not all the Steelers cheat, but Tomlin’s trip of Jacoby Jones is pretty compelling!

  262. youstontx says: Sep 11, 2015 6:51 PM

    Whether you think the Patriots continually cheat or not, this points to a much bigger issue.

    A professional sports league is out of control, and it is being run by a man who let it get to this point. If Goodell doesn’t finally lose his job this year over what the state of the NFL has become, then he’s bullet-proof.

  263. letherton says: Sep 11, 2015 9:21 PM

    Youstonex is right. The NFL is falling apart. Goddell has to go. He has lost control of the the league that Rozelle helped to build. Everything that can be blamed
    For a loss put on the PATS

  264. chairman291 says: Sep 12, 2015 4:37 AM

    I don’t get what all this whining is about. It’s pretty simple really. Whatever New England does you do it to. Headsets don’t work, when they come to your stadium make sure yours don’t work. If they deflate footballs deflate yours. If their defensive line plays games let yours play games. If they spy on you, spy on them. See its simple problem solved. See how easy.

  265. zigthepatsfan says: Sep 12, 2015 8:05 AM

    I still have not heard a good reason why patriots employee how handles the balls was called the “deflator”.

    ————–
    He wasn’t. That is the classic “hater” move of greatly exaggerating everything concerning the Pats. There was 1 text where he said “Call me the deflator”. Nobody actually did call him that even once. Somehow tho we get posts like yours”why was he called the deflator then?” Uh, he wasn’t? except by himself…once

    that’s the facts but dont let that stop you from calling me the delusional one here!

  266. ampatsisahypocrite says: Sep 12, 2015 1:07 PM

    Once again, Pats fans deflect, say that it’s whining, try to joke their way out of it, and in this case claim “it happens everywhere,” even though the overwhelming majority says it happens most in one place. Tomlin is of course just the latest in a long line of coaches who say this is how things work in Foxboro. The thing is, a lot of these guys say it casually, as if it’s almost nothing to be surprised about or even upset about. THAT’S when you KNOW there’s something fishy going on in Foxborough.

  267. nepatriotsforlife says: Sep 15, 2015 6:07 PM

    Guess what everybody the headsets don’t work in every stadium.. Not just Gillette. Love all the complainers and whining though. All from teams that lost to the Super Bowl Champion Patriots. The Patriots have the same issues but guess what they actual prepare for those situations.. Guess everybody else cant be bothered..

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