Adam Jones won’t be suspended for helmet slam

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It looks like Raiders wide receiver Amari Cooper will get what he wanted after having his helmet removed and his head slammed into it by Bengals cornerback Adam Jones during Cincinnati’s 33-13 victory on Sunday.

PFT has learned, via a league source, that Jones will be fined for his actions but that he will avoid a suspension just as he avoided being ejected by the officiating crew working the game in Oakland. Those officials flagged Jones for uneccesary roughness instead.

Cooper said after the game that he thought the officials would have handed down a “harsher penalty” if they had a better view of what Jones did, but said he didn’t think Jones should be suspended because they were “just playing physical.”

Over the summer, the league sent a memo to every team reminding them of the prohibitions against fighting and vowing that actions that break those rules will not be tolerated. It will likely be hard for many people to reconcile that stance with one that treats Jones’s act as not being worthy of discipline beyond a fine.

164 responses to “Adam Jones won’t be suspended for helmet slam

  1. He’s lucky he wasn’t suspended for doing that.

    I thought Jones had turned over a new leaf with his behavior. Hope this isn’t a return to the old “Pacman” days.

  2. Roger must still be hiding under his bed . He hasn’t been seen since Thursday afternoon.
    He is really missing some good opportunities to punish people out here in the real world!

  3. Is there no measure of common sense or consistency in the NFL’s discipline?

    4 games for an (allegedly) under inflated football scheme and not one game for assault? Suh walks as well?

    I’m becoming more disillusioned by this league with every event.

    Go Hawks!

  4. Goodell is afraid of EVERY suspension (warranted or not) getting appealed and then taken to court. Man-up Roger ~ every day YOUR league is becoming more like WWE and you’re allowing it. Time to remove yourself from the role of “discipline-czar”, and let a bi-partisan panel of ex-players and officials make the decisions and take the heat.

  5. The refs were right there. Two refs withing 5 feet. I was surprised they waited for the head slam before the flags came out. I don’t care what Cooper thinks, Jones should be indefinitely suspended from the league. That kind of thing can not be tolerated. And if the NFL “only” fines him, then they’ll surely face questions about the overly lenient discipline. Families were watching and Jones’ actions were replayed several times. It was about as violent as I’ve ever seen a player get without being directly involved in a football play. He removed the helmet then slammed Cooper’s head into. That is premeditated. It was not, as Jones claimed “in the moment”. If that is how he operates in the heat of the moment, after a simple shirt tug from Cooper, then Jones needs to be out of the league permanently.

  6. Well I guess the precedence has been set. Fight will be tolerated. Dirty play tolerated. But I guess when the NFL PA allows cheating to go on and actually try to defended the person that cheats in order to win this should not be a surprise.

  7. Of course Cooper said that – because he’s a rookie playing in his first game.

    What Jones did is bush league.

    Both he and Suh deserves suspensions for their actions – which are all too common for these idiots.

  8. Well of course he won’t be suspended. Why on earth would the NFL suspend a repeat offender for a violent act that was caught on video?

    The harshest suspensions should always be handed out for equipment violations, regardless of whether or not there is any evidence that the violation occurred, or that the player was “generally aware” of said violation. The suspension should be doubled if it involves a player who has never been in trouble before. That way they can set a proper example and keep the player on the straight-and-narrow.

  9. Shame the NFL officials weren’t able to view the play, before deciding. What? They DID see the play?!? Wow! Pacman just got another life!

  10. How is that even possible? The league claims it’s serious about concussions and looks the other way on that move?

  11. Lost in this are the actions of Cooper. He held his block to the whistle and then rather than be a rookie whining about being mistreated he answered like veteran.
    Good job.

  12. That deserved an ejection. Ought to be one big fine. It wasn’t a big deal until he slammed Cooper’s head down on the helmet after ripping it off.

  13. It’s unfathomable that this act perpetrated by a multiple repeat offender on camera is deemed merely fine-worthy, but a spurious allegation of deflating footballs by a ball boy despite no proof that any air was missing earns a player a 4 game suspension for being “generally aware” of said action.

    No one in the league office could really be this incompetent; their actions have to be the result of bias, old grudges and wounded egos.

  14. Can’t blame Cooper, it’s the right thing for a player to say.

    But that was ugly. Almost as, if not just as, ugly as someone getting intentionally stomped on. Lucky for Cooper it was an undersized DB and not a 300-lb lineman.

  15. These type of plays that go viral are detrimental to NFL. No suspension even though Jones has a history, GREAT call NFL -_-

    While you’re at it, any coach/player that loses to the Patriots can accuse them of cheating to the world with no proof and get no re-precautions. Allowing teams to lie about another team does not affect the INTEGRITY of the Shield??

    While you’re at it NFL, let us not properly measure NFL game balls accurately for deflation caused by atmosphere. Even though we spent 9 months explaining how this is sooo important.
    They are checking random (dome) games, not measuring psi at end of game only halftime, not tracking room temperature etc

    For non Pats fans your 2015 season is now dubbed #CryGate

  16. What does he have to do to get suspended? Take Cooper’s helmet off and start beating him with it? Jones shouldn’t even be in the league anymore based on his history, and he does this and the league just ignores it? But if you wear the wrong socks, or don’t talk to the media we’re going to fine you. This league needs a drastic over haul.

  17. Letting a perennial turd like Jones keep playing in the NFL sure sends a message to future turds, a big message.

  18. my God, lighten up people. are we just ignoring then the punch to the chin from Cooper that started this dust up?

  19. If that is not worth a ban then nothing that happens this season is worth a ban, horrendous decision by the NFL.

    What has happened in that place their decision making process is way out of whack!

  20. I’m with Roger on this…

    Why suspend players when NFLPA will just counter-sue and get the player off.

    NFL is making a point…

    Fine! you don’t want the safety and integrity of the game protected, then we’ll leave guys to commit acts contrary to the spirit of the game unpunished.

    PacMan and Sue would have been suspended for sure before Deflategate.

  21. Good reffing helps prevent retaliating, bad reffing encourages it. If guys like Jones and Suh keep getting away with stuff like that, somebody will retaliate.

  22. The NFL has become a laughingstock to its fans and even people who don’t watch it.

    How in the world can this be so blatant an attack yet not warrant a suspension by the refs for the game or the league office after the game.

    There’s a rudder Captain.. Grab it…

  23. This is what happens when some judge renders a commissioner toothless. Thank you judge and thank you Tom Brady for the tantrum you threw that brought things to this. The result will be more players made less afraid to take cheap shots. There will be injuries because of this, and who knows, maybe one day career-ending. And all because of Brady and Kraft’s Hamptons Party buddy, Judge B. Good job guys! Take a bow.

  24. I’m not as critical of Roger as most people.. but the inconsistency of the punishments is pretty damn ridiculous. Can we please get some clear outlines for this stuff?

  25. If the refs had a better view? They couldn’t have had a better view of it if they were the ones on top of him..

    Imagine if that were Rodgers or any big name QB on the ground. Pacman would be out of the league

  26. Very reminiscent of the scene in Rollerball… opponent rips off helmet and punches player in the back of the head. Rapid decline of a once-great sport. smh

  27. Wow, all the Roger haters! Do you want to fight him? Are you this passionate about your job or only things you can’t control. If you hate him so much, why do you watch the games?

  28. If I’m the Bengals I’d be suspending him regardless of what the NFL thinks.

    Just sit him down for a game to make a point of saying it’s not the type of play we condone on the field.

  29. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if this is the leagues way of sending a message to the NFLPA “OK, if you want to sue us over things that were collectively bargained we are no longer going to protect your members from each other”. Not a bad way to send that message actually.

  30. Raiders fan here, full disclosure. This is outrageous. If you can’t get suspended for straddling a WR, violently ripping his helmet off his head and then intentionally slamming his head down onto it, what exactly CAN you get suspended for ??? Cooper just laid there and took it, never fought back in any way.

    With all the focus on concussions, why on EARTH would you allow a guy to get away with a dangerous felony like this?? Unbelievable. Suspend Brady for something as ludicrous as a pound of air pressure, yet nothing but a fine for something like this?? Zero credibility for the league. Absolute crap!

    Amari should press charges against this jackass, and file a civil suit as well.

  31. All the cheap shots and late hits the Raiders took and they’re upset? Are you surprised this happened? Play dirty against a team and eventually that team will hit back. And go after your best player.

  32. Just another breathtakingly tone-deaf miscarriage of justice at the hands of this feckless commissioner.

    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Rog.

  33. rjc32586 says:
    Sep 14, 2015 11:47 AM
    How is that even possible? The league claims it’s serious about concussions and looks the other way on that move?
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    All you people pounding on Goodell, do you fully understand the implications of the Tom Brady decision? The commissioner can never have the same power again. Why bother suspending a guy when all he has to do is run to some judge and complain that he’s having his rights trampled on? No wonder Suh and Jones didn’t care what they did.

    Yes, ironic that the concussions problem, the most serious issue concerning NFL players, now will be magnified and play made less safe, thanks to an NFL player who took Goodell to court.

  34. Not sure why folks are blaming this on Brady. The league knew who he was when they tried to take him out based on natural environmental effects. “Let’s start a fight with atom Brady, this’ll be over quick and we’ll look like geniuses.” – Nobody ever

  35. Goodell can no longer concern himself with mundane issues like concussions and broken heads – he’s just lying in wait for the Patriots to slip up again, which they will.

  36. honeybadger14 says:
    Sep 14, 2015 12:15 PM

    If I’m the Bengals I’d be suspending him regardless of what the NFL thinks.

    Just sit him down for a game to make a point of saying it’s not the type of play we condone on the field.
    ————————

    He was their leading tackler. Forget that idea.

  37. Honestly its time the league stepped back and recalibrated their disciplinary process. I have no problem with no suspension here. Goodell’s Draconian zeal has cost the NFL so much credibility over the last couple of years that a change of direction is needed.

  38. ringheadcrusher says:
    Sep 14, 2015 12:21 PM
    Raiders fan here, full disclosure. This is outrageous. If you can’t get suspended for straddling a WR, violently ripping his helmet off his head and then intentionally slamming his head down onto it, what exactly CAN you get suspended for ??? Cooper just laid there and took it, never fought back in any way.

    With all the focus on concussions, why on EARTH would you allow a guy to get away with a dangerous felony like this?? Unbelievable. Suspend Brady for something as ludicrous as a pound of air pressure, yet nothing but a fine for something like this?? Zero credibility for the league. Absolute crap!

    Amari should press charges against this jackass, and file a civil suit as well.
    ________________
    I suspected him to be suspended, but Cooper didn’t want him suspended and wasn’t hurt, so I assume it must have looked worse than it was. I hope he thinks about his TEAM first next time he loses his temper.

  39. ringheadcrusher says:
    Sep 14, 2015 12:21 PM

    Amari should press charges against this jackass, and file a civil suit as well.
    ——————————–

    Wouldn’t hold up considering Amari threw the first punch and instigated the fight. Adam just finished it and put him in his place.

  40. If this sociopath PacMac was a Raider player, or this incident happened to any other player in any other uni not of the Silver & Black color scheme…I guarantee ejection and a suspension both would have been enforced. Swiftly.

    Come on NFL Owners…Al is dead, quit with the rigging bias against the Raiders with things like this/and continued terrible calls for this team. As you can see, they clearly have a ling season ahead of them losing both safeties, a DTn and incumbent Carr. Who has looked in full regress mode from Week 17 of 2014 through the 2015 preseason and that blowout loss yesterday.

  41. Of course, for all of you who DIDN’T watch the game and only the highlights… you didn’t see what had happened on a previous play, and what occurred prior to Cooper being “assaulted” by Jones.

    As a Bengals fan, I think Jones DOES deserve a suspension for that crap… but let’s look at the incidents that occurred prior to this.

    A couple of plays prior, Cooper punches Jones in the throat. That is an assault as well, not to mention the punch in the chin on the play that Jones “assaults” him. So while neither of those actions justifies Jones behavior… they were obviously a catalyst to what Jones did. They BOTH should’ve been ejected, and had Coopers punch to Jones throat been witnessed by the refs, Cooper would’ve been ejected and Jones never would’ve assaulted him.

    But please… carry on with your uninformed rants by all means!

  42. To those who think the Brady case has anything to do with no suspension let me say that there is nothing that one has with the other except for the fact that Vincent is an idiot.

    To this day thee is no proof Brady conspired to have the balls set below 12.5 Psig, other than that people “know” the patriots cheat, there remains no proof.
    The NFL has a chance of compiling empirical data this year, but you know where that is going.

    Paceman knocking off a helmet then placing it under the guys head and then lifting and smashing his head were all watched live on TV.

    If the NFL had not bungled and botched a five million witch hunt and then ran to the courts for affirmation this BS wouldn’t even be discussed.

    They are only setting themselves up yo lose the commissioners power by now appealing.

    Stupid is as stupid does

    And it continues, all because people believe they know

  43. weepingjebus says:
    Sep 14, 2015 12:28 PM
    Not sure why folks are blaming this on Brady.
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    Of COURSE you don’t.

    It’s called cause and effect. Look into it sometime.

    The increased amount of players who are now going to suffer concussions salute Tommy and Judge B. in advance!

    Ironically, Tom Brady’s true legacy will be more head trauma for future generations.

  44. WHAT PENALTY???
    Jones should have been thrown out of the game instead the refs gave Howard a roughing penalty coming to the defense of Cooper.
    Replay the down … What a joke?

  45. As for the comment that Copper started it with a punch to the throat, no ones is condoning that – it simply didn’t get shown on the news. If they both were doing crap like this suspend both of them.

  46. Roge is noticeably quiet…this along with Aldon being able to play, the Suh cheap shot, not a peep…I think we’re observing a change in real time

  47. this was one of the worst instances I’ve seen on a football field as far as self control, conduct, sportsmanship, or lack of professioalism and if the NFL LETS THIS GUY OFF I have to reconsider if this is a league worth following anymore….?

  48. I’m not one of those “the NFL is soft now” whiners but a fine seems like more then enough for that altercation. There is no slamming of a head, just a push that was more about disrespect and submission then aiming for the helmet behind it.

  49. Pacman is a changed man. 360 degrees changed. It’s incredible how much change. It’s like he’s a new man that is the old man, except he has not changed back to his original cover skills. Maybe some things don’t change.

  50. The “great enforcer” was muted by Judge Berman and has crawled under a rock. Of course, they are still appealing the Tom Brady decision and want to suspend him for 4 games. NFL office is a clown show.

  51. ninerfan81 says:
    Sep 14, 2015 12:49 PM

    Roge is noticeably quiet…this along with Aldon being able to play, the Suh cheap shot, not a peep…I think we’re observing a change in real time
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    Seems that way.

  52. ampatsisahypocrite says:
    Sep 14, 2015 12:28 PM

    All you people pounding on Goodell, do you fully understand the implications of the Tom Brady decision? The commissioner can never have the same power again. Why bother suspending a guy when all he has to do is run to some judge and complain that he’s having his rights trampled on? No wonder Suh and Jones didn’t care what they did.
    =================================
    The point of the Brady decision is just giving people a fair hearing. Brady didn’t run to any judge at all. It was the NFL who suspended Brady and ran to a judge in NY and filed. Any thought that Brady initiated this litigation is a lie.

  53. As a Bengal fan I say he should be suspended, but the NFL has no authority over their own system. Every suspension has the cloud of a federal court appeal hanging over it now. The system needs to be fixed fast. Adam Jones can thank the federal judge and glamour boy Tom Brady for this free pass.

  54. “Generally aware” of something that was more probably than not an act of nature: 4 game suspension.

    Attempt to split a man’s skull open with his own helmet like you are playing Midway’s “Blitz: The League”: No suspension.

    Integrity.

  55. I would not have complained at all if Jones had been suspended. He has to be able to keep his composure, no matter what Cooper was doing to him first.

    That said, I can’t take seriously the righteous indignation of Raiders fans if they are not also going to call for punishment for Hudson intentionally targeting Iloka after the play was over in the previous series.

    I can call out my team’s player. Can you?

  56. I can’t believe people are actually blaming all this on Brady…

    Blame the NFL for handing out suspensions like candy at Halloween. Suspended a quarter of the season for air in a football?

    And I didn’t see Brady reffing that Oakland game yesterday.

    What on earth were they thinking?

  57. I can’t believe people are actually blaming all this on Brady…

    Blame the NFL for handing out suspensions like candy at Halloween. Suspended a quarter of the season for air in a football?

    And I didn’t see Brady reffing that Oakland game yesterday.

    What on earth were they thinking?

  58. I hope all the fans who supported Brady and Ray Rice and Peterson are happy now, and also, the NFLPA too. The league is now cowering in the face of discipline, afraid to make a move. Way to go. The tail is wagging the dog.

  59. Re watched the play a few times now and it does not look as violent as everyone is making sound to be.banging the guys head a helmet is wrong but there was no force to it.hence why cooper does not mind nor did he not get hurt

  60. fine with NO pension for willful attempt to injure another player with a piece of equipment (WITH video evidence), but the League is appealing a court decision that reversed a 4 game suspension for alleged “knowledge”

    SMDH

  61. I was there yesterday and they were all playing physical.

    I was thinking cooper needed to at least fight back and not get punked by jones so others dbs don’t think hes soft … guess there is more to this story tho.

  62. if Adam Jones gets away without a suspension, then the NFL has lost it’s nerve. Jones should of been ejected for starters and should get 8 games for that stupidity without pay. What a total joke.

  63. davetrembley says:
    Sep 14, 2015 1:06 PM
    I hope all the fans who supported Brady and Ray Rice and Peterson are happy now, and also, the NFLPA too. The league is now cowering in the face of discipline, afraid to make a move. Way to go. The tail is wagging the dog.

    ————-Yeah put it on the players who fought back instead of where the blame belongs….on the NFL front office for picking punishments out of a hat instead of to fit the offense….or lack of one.

  64. Pacman is what he always was, a serious Delta Bravo. Surprised there wasn’t at least a game for that though. What happened to the lip service the league normally spews when any type of a head shot is involved?
    #whereisroger

  65. We’re not blaming Brady. It’s the SYSTEM he and his attorneys played and won. He just happened to be a premier player, the only way this got as far as it did.

  66. There should have been an ejection along with the fine. The NFL should have come out strongly. There were kids watching. How can you be serious about player safety by allowing that to happen? What if he managed to do it hard enough in the “heat of the moment” to concuss?

    Too much is getting bungled. Its time to clean house.

  67. League is changing, not even a review of Cole’s run in the Last Boyscout would have generated a suspension.

    The NFLPA is going to have to address this internally…they won in court but unless they start respecting one another and the rules they are going to take themselves out.

    If you want to attack the NFL attack them for the officiating. The ref was right there and called a penalty (so you know he seen it) but to not eject Pacman was a mistake/disgrace and one that potentially put other players in danger (which should be the refs no.1 priority).

  68. I dont even know what to say about this. He could of really hurt Cooper even worse than a concussion by doing what he did.

    There is no excuse to do that to any player especially when their helmet is off.

  69. Roger Goodell and the NFL are such hypocrites, to dole out millions in the NFL Concussion Settlement and try to enforce Safety to combat concussions and yet, let this monster rodent named Adam Jones freely bang a player’s head against a helmet. Oh… right, if Jones did this to Tom Brady or to Peyton Manning (or any other quarterback), then it would be an issue? “All NFL Player Lives Matter”

  70. Richard Seymour sucker punched Big Ben a few years ago and the max fine was $25,000 but it was not a suspendible offence. Don’t blame Goodell for having his hands tied. He tried to go beyond the CBA with Brady and look where it got him.

  71. Man that’s assault. The “reasonable expectation” standard wouldn’t even hold up in court. There’s no reasonable expectation that a psychopath on the other team is going to rip your helmet off and slam the back of your head into it. This isn’t like tearing up your knee during the course of play, or even sustaining a late hit. This was way outside normal game play. Come on.

  72. It was a veteran player showing a rookie how the games played in the Big League.
    And to those u that are saying that Adam slammed the guys head on his helmet,Stop! Look at the clip. As soon as Adam realized that Coopers head hit his helmet after the first time,he stopped.So its obvious he didn’t do it on purpose

  73. This is mind blowing.

    It is a serious detriment to any reasonable person’s ability to take the league seriously on player safety issues. Period. Get your $#!+ together, NFL.

  74. Lucky for Adam Jones, could have been worse. Love what he adds to the Bengals team! A little too physical on this play. People lets not take him back all those years..he’s not the same at all. Love how people love to bash my Bengals 😂

  75. “It is a serious detriment to any reasonable person’s ability to take the league seriously on player safety issues. Period. Get your $#!+ together, NFL.”

    Let me take you back to 2008…

    Keith Rivers was hit by Hines Ward with the crown of his helmet, breaking his jaw. After the hit, he stood over Rivers and taunted him.

    Ward was not suspended for the hit.
    Ward was not fined for the hit.
    Ward was not flagged for the hit. Or for taunting.
    No one (outside of Bengals fans) cared about the hit. In fact, Ward was more praised than criticized by NFL fans for the hit.

    Play hasn’t changed, but fan reaction sure has.

  76. Lucky for Adam Jones, could have been worse. Love what he adds to the Bengals team! A little too physical on this play. …

    That’s just it though, it wasn’t a play! It was well after the play and involved two steps: remove helmet, hit helmet with head.

    I think you meant “…lucky for Amari Cooper.”

    I don’t have a particular problem with the Bengals, but this kind of thing should be punished.

  77. Obviously a dirty play worth the penalty and probably should`ve been ejected but you people acting like it was worth being suspended multiple games are softer than the NFL at this point.
    It wasn`t a assault!He didn`t slam his head with a helmet.He pushed his head back into the helmet.
    It doesn`t compare to Suh stepping on heads or even the step onto Rodgers leg (that was over turned) or many other plays that players weren`t suspended for.
    I would still rather have players who play aggressive.Even if they cross the line once in awhile than have the unmotivated soft play of teams like the Colts who gets punched in the mouth and take the fetal position the rest of the game.

  78. Haha he probably should have been ejected for that move, but Cooper totally neck punched him right before that video clip. If you don’t want people trying to hit you, you probably shouldn’t hit people first. Makes sense why Cooper doesn’t want anyone suspended… The people calling Cooper a good guy though, LOL!

  79. “I don’t have a particular problem with the Bengals, but this kind of thing should be punished.”

    Then I guess you also have a problem with Cooper punching Jones in the throat. And grabbing Jones’ facemask. And trying to throw Jones down (but Jones ended up on top of Cooper instead).

    If you are going to be indignant, be consistent.

  80. Not sure why some of you bozos are thanking Tom Brady or Judge Berman, when it was your Overlord Boss Goodell that created this mess.

    If he did his job properly, his punishments wouldn’t be getting overturned by a Federal judge all of the time.

  81. Pac Man is a punk. always has been, always will be. But that should have been the wake up call to get these Raiders into the game. Instead, they just took that punch in the face and wilted. I was at the game and Cincy was just the tougher, more physical team by far. Raiders looked soft and scared. That’s my team, but I call it like I see it.

  82. What a bunch of BS. What would the league do had this punk pulled this stunt with Tom Brady? Same thing? I think not.

    It’s about time the NFL grows some balls and disciplines actions like this every time. Heat of the moment or not, how do you not suspend someone for 4 games minimum for ripping off a guy’s helmet and then smashing his head on it? Really? REALLY????

  83. Most of you have no idea what you’re talking about. How many actually watched the game?

    I think Jones should get suspended 1 game, maybe 2. Simply because I blame Jones for not being able to rise above this type of action. For those of you that really have followed Jones, you know he doesn’t like to be disrespected, and you have to do something to him to get this type of reaction. Cooper’s hand was in Jones face on a previous play, and then he hit him in the chin prior to Jones take down of Cooper.

    Jones isn’t a repeat offender, Jones had off the field issues, and I think the last time he was disciplined by the league was over 6 years ago. And the word slam is wrong, more like doinked his head against his helmet.

  84. Utterly asinine. The guy slams a player’s head against a helmet, which is no different than what Haynesworth did that got him suspended.

    Cooper deserves a fine for going after Jones’ throat, and Jones deserves a game for his stunt.

  85. “And the word slam is wrong, more like doinked his head against his helmet.”

    True. How much of a “slam” could it be if Cooper didn’t even realize his head hit something? Nowhere near enough to cause the type of damage many are claiming.

  86. Amari – Welcome to the NFL!! Honestly people, what do you think is going on under those pile-ups, exchanging phone numbers!! I saw a number of hits after the plays ended which were questionable on both sides. The Raiders have and will always take pride in being rough and tough. Simply put they pushed and the Bengals pushed back – it is part of the game. Now play ball!!

  87. Outrageous. He should’ve been ejected from the game. This should be a 6-figure fine and a multiple game suspension.

  88. I have no dog in this fight but I have to say that whatever morsel of confidence I had left in the NFL as far as consistency in discipline is GONE!!

  89. Random acts of violence between plays, no problem.

    .2 psi in a few footballs, national news, 7 digit fine, loss of multiple draft picks.

    Got it.

  90. thegenoatkinsdiet says:
    Sep 14, 2015 1:04 PM

    I would not have complained at all if Jones had been suspended. He has to be able to keep his composure, no matter what Cooper was doing to him first.

    That said, I can’t take seriously the righteous indignation of Raiders fans if they are not also going to call for punishment for Hudson intentionally targeting Iloka after the play was over in the previous series.

    I can call out my team’s player. Can you?
    ——————–
    Sure. Iloka and the other Bengal DBs were giving Cooper the business. That’s what you do with a big name rookie. But if you give some, you should expect to get some.

  91. Wow NFL. You really care about player safety. The commissioner should be fired at this point. Who knew my opinion of the league could fall further? And yet, every time, it does. Again and again.

  92. Pacman has 9 Lives – But I don’t want to hear Raider fans complain. Pac was just playing “Raider” football. For those asking for a multi game suspension, take off your dress. It ain’t a dinner party, or the theatre it’s the NFL.

  93. The NFL suspended Tom, despite having NO evidence of tampering. They told the Federal Judge they had NO evidence, the NFL then proceeded to violate Federal law during the process. So yes, federal Judge Berman overturned the suspension. What does any of this have to do with Troy Vincent not suspending a player for a obvious vicious hit???

  94. “But if you give some, you should expect to get some.”

    So if you think that Iloka earned a cheap shot from Hudson, then obviously you are OK with Jones giving a cheap shot to Cooper, because he went after Jones first on that play. As you say, he should have expected it.

    Unless you want it both ways, of course.

  95. thegenoatkinsdiet says:
    Sep 14, 2015 6:41 PM

    “But if you give some, you should expect to get some.”

    So if you think that Iloka earned a cheap shot from Hudson, then obviously you are OK with Jones giving a cheap shot to Cooper, because he went after Jones first on that play. As you say, he should have expected it.

    Unless you want it both ways, of course.
    ——————-
    I don’t think it’s cool for any player to grab a guy’s skull and bash it into his helmet. It’s a bit excessive. Cooper didn’t cry about it, and neither did I. Stuff happens.

  96. @raiderapologist
    I said multiple times that he was over the line and that he deserved whatever he got. The story has been sensationalized and is sorely lacking context, but even so I don’t like what he did and don’t want to see it again.

    I also know Hudson was over line for targeting Iloka. Raiders fans have cried loudly about Jones’ cheap shot, but I’m still waiting for them to acknowledge that Hudson took a cheap shot of his own and call him out for it. I highly doubt it will happen… not that I’m surprised.

  97. thegenoatkinsdiet says:
    Sep 14, 2015 8:10 PM

    @raiderapologist
    I said multiple times that he was over the line and that he deserved whatever he got. The story has been sensationalized and is sorely lacking context, but even so I don’t like what he did and don’t want to see it again.

    I also know Hudson was over line for targeting Iloka. Raiders fans have cried loudly about Jones’ cheap shot, but I’m still waiting for them to acknowledge that Hudson took a cheap shot of his own and call him out for it. I highly doubt it will happen… not that I’m surprised.
    ———————-
    You can’t just enjoy the win? Iloka started the fireworks by dancing over Cooper after dropping him hard. It’s not baseball. You don’t tag the next guy. You tag that guy.

  98. As a Raiders fan, we should have at least got the 15 yard penalty on the play instead on the “Off-setting” fouls for our lineman pushing him at the end.
    In a weird way, the play changed the game.
    The very next play, on Third Down, Derek Carr thought he was Barry Sanders and tried to stiff arm Pacman going for the first down and injured his throwing hand and did not return.
    The next play after that, the Raiders (Without their starting QB) went foriton 4th Down and failed on a 4th and 1 attempt and turned the ball over to the Bengals at mid-field, which they converted to points.
    The score was only 10-0 at this point Carr went out.
    The Raiders completely fell apart after that.

    Don’t get me wrong, from the start the Raiders looked pathetic, embarrassing, horrible, and any other adjective you can think of for crap.
    Not the showing any Raiders fan expected from the new Jack Del Rio led Raiders.
    If you watched the game, the Bengals were clearly targeting Cooper the from the start of the game, I guess trying to welcome him to the NFL?

  99. re: “Thanks Brady. Now the league is afraid to suspend anyone. GJ Tommy.”

    You should thank the haters that whined and demanded Brady’s head in a case where there was not evidence and an unfair “arbitration” and an biased “independent investigation.”

    Not everybody will run away from a fight. Tom Brady is one of them.

    Brady will not take you haters’ xxxxx.

  100. This makes me hate the nfl. I can’t stand this! He could have KILLED the guy! It was an act of sheer violence intended to inflict harm on another person!! No suspension?!

    Roger Goodell is just beyond awful.

  101. Now, Roger Goodell is getting just what he wants. All week “NFL fans” have been calling for his job, or at least asking how he could be so inconsistent.
    But now? Boom! The 2cd week of NFL football starts and everyone has forgotten about what happened. They’ve forgotten about Pacman slamming Cooper’s head into his helmet. They’ve forgottem about the fine. – NFL fans have the attention span of mice.

    And now, NOTHING is going to change. That is of course until Adomakin Suh or Pacman Jones REALLY hurts someone. Maybe seriously next time. Maybe Goodell is waiting for Suh to step on someone’s forarm and snapping it like a twig. (And if the guy is a no-name CB, he’ll get a $50,ooo fine. And if it’s Aaron Rogers throwing arm, he’ll get suspended for the year without pay.)
    Or maybe Pacman, with his new found belief of POWER, thanks to Goodells feckless $35k (laughable fine) it will take Pacman to punch a player in the mouth before he is fined. Or, maybe when it’s found out that his punch drove the man’s nose bone partially into his brain with makes him have to retire from the league, then, MAYBE, Goodell will suspend him.

    On both accounts, ONE SUSPENSION TOO LATE. You think I’m exagerrating? Just wait. Roger Goodell will never “retire.” He’s going to be fired and ousted because he was a “commissioner” who could not control the inmates. Mark my words….

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