Through three games, Andrew Luck ranks dead last in passer rating

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The NFL’s passer rating formula is far from perfect, but it’s the official metric the league uses to provide a ballpark estimate of how well a quarterback is playing. And according to that metric, the worst starting quarterback in the NFL this year is Andrew Luck.

That seems crazy, but it’s true. Luck’s passer rating of 65.1 is the lowest of all the NFL’s first-string quarterbacks. The only players who have thrown a pass in the NFL this season with a lower passer rating are Bears backup quarterback Jimmy Clausen and Rams punter Johnny Hekker, who threw one pass, an incompletion, on a fake punt.

Luck’s passer rating is lower than that of quarterbacks who have been benched (Brian Hoyer is at 72.7), lower than that of quarterbacks who many observers think should be benched (Josh McCown is at 83.2), lower than quarterbacks who have been roundly criticized for their slow starts (Sam Bradford is at 72.5) and lower than quarterbacks who don’t look ready to play yet (Blake Bortles is at 78.3).

Perhaps most amazingly, all of the other quarterbacks in the 2012 draft class are doing better than Luck. Cowboys quarterback Brandon Weeden, a bust with the Browns in the same first round when the Colts drafted Luck, has a passer rating of 102.7. Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson, drafted in the third round in 2012, is at a solid 94.2. Rams quarterback Nick Foles, a 2012 second-round pick of the Eagles, is at 87.5. Dolphins quarterback Ryan Tannehill, another first-round pick in 2012, is at 85.5. Washington quarterback Kirk Cousins, a fourth-round pick in 2012, is at 81.3.

At least Luck doesn’t have to worry about his passer rating falling behind the player chosen directly behind him, Robert Griffin III, whose stock has fallen so far that Washington turned him into a scout team safety. There’s no chance of that happening to Luck. But there are questions being raised around the NFL about what has happened to this player who entered the NFL looking like the best quarterback prospect of his generation. Luck is off to a terrible start.

173 responses to “Through three games, Andrew Luck ranks dead last in passer rating

  1. Wow, we know Luck is capable, so is it no targets? or wrong scheme.

    Anyone got any analysis of this unbelievable stat?

  2. I don’t understand the love affair with Luck.

    Is he good?

    Absolutely.

    Does he throw waaayyyy too many picks?

    Absolutely.

    But he has 43 INTs in his first three years and already has 7 this year!

    Also, his QB rating has never been 100 for a season.

    I’ll put him on my fantasy team but leave him off my NFL team.

  3. HA HA HA! Indy fans! HA HA HA! You were talking about an undefeated season! HA HA HA! You thought you were shoe ins for the Super Bowl! HA HA HA! Irsay must have been dumping his drugs into the drinking water supply! HA HA HA!

  4. He’s not playing well at all and the Colts have done an atrocious job of game planning on offense as well. He’ll snap out of it and they will win their division so they can get trounced in the playoffs again.

  5. wait…. he was a sure-fire MVP, and the Luck era was upon us, and was sure to be a 10 year reign.

    What happened?

    Other whiny blame-everyone-else excuse-making franchises, including paranoid ones who like to make up stuff about their opponents and enjoy starting sting operations,

    TAKE NOTE.

    The football Gods don’t like your crap.

  6. Not an Indy fan but only Cousins has taken more hits than Luck. Guess that means it is time for Irsay/Grigson to draft another WR, lol

  7. In all fairness the GM and the HC haven’t done anything to improve Luck. He grew so much under Bruce Arians, but somehow has been regressing under Pagano. The team didn’t need Andre Johnson or even Frank Gore for that matter, the team needs OL and deffense. Luck will be fine, but the Colts will be just average till the GM and the HC (both) are gone and a true rebuilding starts.

  8. Id hire Josh McDaniels as head coach and tell him to implement a carbon copy of the Patriots offense.

    To be clear, I dont really like him, or the way he acted with Denver, but Im sure he could straighten out Luck in a hurry.

  9. The Deflategate curse! ESPN laying off 300 and losing money..The Colts and Luck are awful…Ravens 0-3…Jerry Jones publicly supporting Goodell-Romo and Bryant down…Beat down of Buffalo and another Buffalo “Super Bowl loss”…and of course the clown Goodell…Go Pats!

  10. As a pats fan I have actually always liked Luck and think he is going to be a superstar in a few years. He bears his fair share for the colts woes this season but most of the blame needs to laid at the feet of management and coaching. He has been asked to do too much, the management has not addressed the flaws of the team, especially on defense and the coaching is flawed. Pagano is not a terrible coach, he just isn’t a very good one and Griegson is a piece of crap.

    Yes the pats are going to lay a whooping on the colts but its not going to be very satisfying, at least to me, its going to be more like kicking a street drunk while he is passed out on the sidewalk. Its actually a lot more satisfying to beat a team that is worthy of you, but this game has clearly now become just another stop on the brady F.U. tour.

  11. Karma. And about that 72 point comment? Pagano and Grigson will be ecstatic if that turd defense can keep them under 50 and you know it. Luck’s a good kid, likable actually. Play’s hard but is asked to carry the team on his back so he takes chances. He’s a victim of his front office. Maybe if the GM concentrated on something else besides the Patriots and how to frame them he just might have thought to, oh, I don’t know, acquired some defensive help and strengthened the o-line. And just maybe not sign a free agent closer to Social Security than to their prime.

  12. It’s Week 4. Let’s re-visit this around Week 12. Barring in an injury, I can guarantee Andrew Luck will be in the top half of the league’s QBs, not the bottom half.

  13. blame Grigson and ship him outta there.

    Crybaby whining grown man. Since you continue to beat the living snot out of my ill-conceived “team”, I’m gonna make up a phony story about your team and cry all the way to Park Avenue about it

    #curseofdeflategate

  14. numbers schmumbers……id say 30 teams would trade their QB for him in a heartbeat… including the pats and broncos, because of their QB’s respective ages. only team that wouldnt would be the packers cuz rodgers still has plenty of under the center time left in his career

  15. How much longer until everybody realizes Russell “not elite” Wilson is the best QB of this great class of 2012?

    Wilson>Luck

  16. 3 out of 4 colts balls were under the legal limit

    Maybe it’s Luck who can’t play with the balls properly inflated

    You know like what CRYBABY NATION said about Brady.

    Who’s been wrong more than CRYBABY NATION over the last 7 months?

  17. flash1287 says:

    3 out of 4 colts balls were under the legal limit
    ———————————————————-
    All 4 were well over the limit on the properly calibrated gauge. ALL Pats balls were underinflated on BOTH gauges.

  18. Maybe stop hyper-focusing on players with a magnifying glass. Matthew Stafford has been in the league way longer with a better defense and the best receiver of a generation to throw to and hasn’t done squat. But hey, let’s pile on Luck instead. He might go through the whole year and just not have it this year, but I think the guy’s track record speaks for itself that a benefit of the doubt is warranted.

  19. There are far too few viable pocket passers to squander one on that worthless organization filled with notorious tankers.

    #FreeLuck

  20. Funny how Pats followers this this is funny and then make fun. When people do that to their cheating franchise, they call the rest of us crybabies. Go to court and see if you can get a new ruling or something.

  21. “According to that metric, the worst starting quarterback in the NFL this year is Andrew Luck.”

    Um … and according to that same metric, the 7th best starting quarterback in the NFL this year is Marcus Mariota. … While we Titans fans will argue in a heartbeat that Marcus is the real thing, we know he’s far from having “arrived.” There’s only one elite QB in our division and that’s Andrew Luck. He may have company next season or the season after, but … let’s talk reality, okay?

  22. It’s too early to compare QB ratings. One bad or one good game will change the ratings drastically until a larger sample size is achieved. Tannehill was around 108 after 2 games and his debacle against the Bills (~60) dropped his rating to 85ish. Picks kill a QB rating and a tipped ball that should have been caught but is intercepted counts the same as a ball thrown directly to a wide open defender with no receiver in sight. I’m sure some of his picks were just unlucky but he does throw a bit more interceptions than other ‘good’ QBs. The Colts have been behind alot so far and that means the QB will likely take more chances in order to make a play. If he still has the low ratings by mid-season then there might be something to worry about.

  23. Same problem Payton had with the Colts. No supporting cast around him. Luck has had no running game and his receiver corps is meh. Add to an Offensive Line that is absolutely putrid and you have the current situation.

  24. Indy and Miami will both be picking in the top 10 next year. I know Miami will be and that is something I am looking forward to. No sense in winning 7 games and loosing out on a top LT. Here is to loosing out and drafting ND Left Tackle. This is what happens when youre oline sucks as well as youre defense.

  25. The scheme and lack of talent around him is part of the issue. But he gets WAY too much slack concerning his turnovers. I get tired of watching games where he’ll have 2-3 picks and the announcers continue to talk about him like he’s a Hall of Famer.

  26. Luck’s a great player on a team with an incompetent front office. A front office that was hired by a drunken trust fund baby who picked a GM based on who could bench press the most.

  27. You writers can’t hide your pro Luck bias. You preface your article with a hedging statement, questioning the validity of QBR when applied to your hero darling, hand picked God of the QB position.

    Is QBR more accurate when applied negatively to those QB’s ritually torn apart in the press, and not the bandwagon media’s handful of QB’s who apparently walk on H2O?

  28. Just wait until he gets to face the Patriots and has another horrible game. He’s lucky he gets to try and pad his stats against two other AFC South opponents before then.

    Luck is the most overhyped and rated player in the league today.

  29. gotitan says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:21 PM
    Funny how Pats followers this this is funny and then make fun. When people do that to their cheating franchise, they call the rest of us crybabies. Go to court and see if you can get a new ruling or something.

    Ladies and gentlemen your newest member of CRYBABY NATION

  30. Funny how Brady no issues with the new football pressurization requirements.

    Maybe Luck wishes his team didn’t start that whole fake scandal right about now.

  31. Don’t worry Andrew. The AFC South will be along shortly and those low numbers are gonna sky rocket in a hurry. Nothing like playing Appalaccian and Ball State to boost up that QBR…

  32. he hasnt been the same since the colts were caught playing with under inflated footballs during the afccg. Brady, however, has been exactly the same.

  33. Bortles “not ready to play yet?” This is his second year. He was a high first rounder.

    Why are Bradley and the Jags are on a totally different clock than any other team in rebuild mode?

  34. mister305miami says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:27 PM
    Indy and Miami will both be picking in the top 10 next year.

    Indy will win at least five of their division games if not all six. Outside of their division the Saints and Bucs look like certain wins, and Indy will probably get their offense together enough to compete in a few of their other games.

    No way Indy picks in the top 10 with their own draft pick next year unless Luck gets hurt, or Irsay orders the team to throw games again like he did the season before Luck draft.

  35. Well, maybe if Colts management had drafted Luck some damn protection instead of picking up an aging RB and WR, he wouldn’t be dead last in the NFL and wouldn’t be getting hit almost every time he drops back.

  36. “It’s too early to compare QB ratings. One bad or one good game will change the ratings drastically until a larger sample size is achieved”

    Lolz you’re posting actual scientific reasoning in a place full of science deniers and people who can barely add 2+2

    I applaud the effort but trying to explain statistical analysis to the posters here and the media trying to get click bait is like trying to explain calculus to a dog. They’re just not going to get what you’re even referring to.

  37. flash1287 says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:08 PM
    3 out of 4 colts balls were under the legal limit
    ————————————————————

    Incorrect. Quit making things up to make yourself feel better about your Pats. They’re playing just fine anyway, so I don’t see why you even care to troll on the Colts

  38. themage78 says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:25 PM
    Same problem Payton had with the Colts. No supporting cast around him…

    Peyton had no supporting cast on the Colts?

    Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Edgerrin James, Jeff Saturday, Tarik Glenn, Robert Mathis, Dwight Freeney, Bob Sanders…

    Nine players off the top of my head, with two or three potential HOFers, who played with the Peyton Colts who would have started or seen significant playing time on all of the teams in the league.

    You can blame the coaching or the choking on those Colts teams, but you cannot blame the supporting cast.

  39. Something tells me that his passer rating will skyrocket this week….because “Luck”y for him the “we just played NE and they scored on thier 1st 9 possessions and got 35 first downs” Jaguars are coming to town.

    Yes those stats are true. Boy do we stink and Gus Bradley is an absolute failure as a Head Coach. It is actually getting to the point where he might even be coaching himself out of any future Def Coordinator spots – it is truly that bad.

  40. “Anyone got any analysis of this unbelievable stat?”

    IMO? Your line play still determines your overall success. And the Colts OL is a mess.

    The Titans are still a hot-and-cold defense who are very bad when cold. Unless the Colts get the OL issues worked out, remaining games against stronger, more consistent defenses will continue to be ugly.

  41. Clearly they should cut Luck and hand the starting job to Tim Tebow. He’s a winner and his presence in the lineup will inspire everyone there to try harder and play better and win more! #TebowTime

  42. When the Colts decide to get serious about building an adequate offensive line for Luck, then we can discuss his passing rating. Until then, can anyone think of a QB in the league right now that could take the pounding that Luck has been taking? He has absolutely no time at all to get the ball thrown before he is pummeled. The only QB even close to that durable would be Big Ben, and even he is injured right now. The Brady/Manning/Rogers of the NFL would be on IR by now with the beating that Luck has taken so far this yr.

  43. Mogogo1 says:

    “I get tired of watching games where he’ll have 2-3 picks and the announcers continue to talk about him like he’s a Hall of Famer.”

    A few Hall of Famers who essentially threw as many interceptions as TD passes:

    Terry Bradshaw
    Dan Fouts
    Bob Griese
    Troy Aikman

    (NOTE: Contrary to public perception, Brett Farve threw far more TDs than picks.)

  44. themage78 says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:25 PM

    Same problem Payton had with the Colts. No supporting cast around him.
    ———————————————————
    You CAN’T be serious????

    Manning was surrounded by all-pro’s, on BOTH sides of the ball!!!!!!!

  45. “3 out of 4 colts balls were under the legal limit
    ————————————————————

    Incorrect. Quit making things up to make yourself feel better about your Pats. ”

    Actually with the gauge used to claim the Pats balls were under 12.5 psi 3 of the 4 Colts balls were under 12.5 psi.

    With the other gauge they were not, however the NFL only used the data from that gauge for the Colts, and tossed out that data for the Pats using only the data from the gauge that showed them under 12.5 psi but within the range the the ideal gas law shows they would lose pressure to.

    The only ball the Pats had that was significantly under pressure was the one the Colts had on their sideline for half an hour. The one they lied about when they claimed the intercepting player told the coaches felt soft. When in fact the player later said he never told the coaches anything along those lines.

    There seems little question that the Colts let a significant amount of air out of that ball to frame the Pats.

  46. hairpie2 says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:41 PM
    he hasnt been the same since the colts were caught playing with under inflated footballs during the afccg. Brady, however, has been exactly the same.
    ———————————————————-

    Your team is doing just fine, and my Colts are sucking, but you still feel the need to troll on them? Why, are you somehow threatened by them?

  47. osiris33 says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:12 PM
    flash1287 says:

    3 out of 4 colts balls were under the legal limit
    ———————————————————-
    All 4 were well over the limit on the properly calibrated gauge. ALL Pats balls were underinflated on BOTH gauges.
    ______________________________________
    And which gauge was that? Neither were calibrated.
    Luck will do OK with time cause he has all the basic skills of a star. Just won’t be happening any time soon.

  48. osiris33 says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:12 PM
    flash1287 says:

    3 out of 4 colts balls were under the legal limit
    ———————————————————-
    All 4 were well over the limit on the properly calibrated gauge. ALL Pats balls were underinflated on BOTH gauges.

    ========================================
    LIAR LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE.

    From the Wells report: “we found the Logo Gauge to read
    at least 0.35 psig high in our experiments, while the Non-Logo Gauge reads closer to a
    calibrated gauge”

    i.e., the lower values are closer to the calibrated gauge values.

  49. osiris33 says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:12 PM

    flash1287 says:

    3 out of 4 colts balls were under the legal limit
    ———————————————————-
    All 4 were well over the limit on the properly calibrated gauge. ALL Pats balls were underinflated on BOTH gauges.
    ——————

    Neither of the gauges were calibrated.

    3 of the 4 Colts balls, measured with the same gauge that was used before the game, were below 12.5PSI.

    It’s all right there in the Pash Report.

  50. Andrew Suck said he wanted to break Brett Favre’s records. Little did we know he intended to break Bret’s interception record.

  51. coltzfan166 says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:50 PM

    God I can’t wait for Harbaugh to come in and take over
    —————————-

    I thought Nick Saban was waiting in the wings?

  52. Grigson (channeling the ‘Skins Snyder?) hired useless Pep Hamilton as OC and then several of aging skill players past there prime while deciding the Colts did not need linemen.

  53. Luck was know for hitting his TEs and RBs at Stanford, with just under 7 ypa. His old OC at Stanford, Pep Hamilton announced last year that he would be throwing more vertical routes.

    I was in the minority, but I stated right here, that it would result in more INTs. Well, he threw a lot of TDs, but who can say there are not more INTs? Yeah, he’s under pressure, but so is every QB. Heck Wilson runs for his life every game.

    His problem at Stanford was throwing 15-20 yds outside the numbers. The ball is in the air way too long. I predicted professional DBs would get to his balls and they are. Favorable media is basically related to hyped expectations that he was not ever going to be able to live up to. Let him play sans the hype, maybe he’ll be OK.

  54. Luck turned a 1-15 team into an 11-5 team literally overnight. The Colts are 1-2 right now. They’ll end up at least 10-6, but who knows, he could have an off year and go 9-7. Just my opinion, but the Colts are a bad team. They need a new coach and a fresh start.

  55. Love that Andrew is getting fan backed support in the form of he has no talent around him, the game plans are atrocious, no defense…. etc

    Same things we had spouted for many seasons about Romo.
    Hows those shoes fit? Snug?

    Parallels of the two are similar. Both enjoy great success early, both get rocked out of playoffs, both end up on teams that disintegrate around them, both become the butt of every NFL joke imaginable, both will probably never see a Super Bowl.

    Biggest difference – Ones a #1 overall pick that IS a turnover machine. The other, a undrafted free agent with some of the best numbers in the history of the sport.

    Good news though, I’m positive Luck will be fine. Down the road, maybe this season. This organization though, if they choose the flashy drafts over the lunch pail drafts well…

    Out of control beard Andrew Luck…

    Meet

    Arts and Craftsy Tony Romo….

    Enjoy 10+ seasons of Crownies w/o sprinkles mind you. Because we all know, sprinkles are for winners.

  56. Remember when Colts fans would point and laugh at Andy Dalton?

    Proves those ‘Offensive Line’ things are kind of handy. Colts’ FO should look into getting one of those sometime.

  57. Luck CAN be as good as most people think, but playing for that toxic waste dump of a franchise and it’s crack head owner is a prescription for unfulfilled potential.

    If I were Luck’s dad, I’d make sure he never sign another contract with the Colts. THAT would be the final karmic irony. The team that ACTUALLY cheated the rest of the league and dumped games to get Luck, loses him after the 2016 season to their own incompetence.

    How sweet would that be. CRYBABY NATION would be traumatized

  58. Ryan Grigson wanted to draft Andrew Luck,
    The Colts were so bad, it was said that they suck
    They took Andrew Luck with the number one pick
    It certainly looked smarter than signing Michael Vick

    But then they tempted fate, and they accused the Pats
    Now Luck is last in the league, and getting outclassed
    They accused Tom of cheating, and he got annoyed
    And the Pats will soon visit, the Colts will be destroyed

  59. ***themage78 says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:25 PM
    Same problem Payton had with the Colts. No supporting cast around him…***

    HUH??? Except for the yearly all star teams that were assembled around him. no qb ever did less with more.

  60. varangia says:
    Sep 29, 2015 1:36 PM
    Luck turned a 1-15 team into an 11-5 team literally overnight. The Colts are 1-2 right now. They’ll end up at least 10-6, but who knows, he could have an off year and go 9-7. Just my opinion, but the Colts are a bad team. They need a new coach and a fresh start.
    ———————
    If the Colts go 10-6….that means, in all probability they win their 6 division games and go less than .500 against teams from other division…..and that means they lose in the playoffs pretty quickly….again.

  61. Luck has no idea where he is throwing the ball until the play develops. Sorry Andrew. If you don’t know what the defense is giving you before the snap, you are in serious trouble.

  62. pftjunkie says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:52 PM

    When the Colts decide to get serious about building an adequate offensive line for Luck, then we can discuss his passing rating. Until then, can anyone think of a QB in the league right now that could take the pounding that Luck has been taking? He has absolutely no time at all to get the ball thrown before he is pummeled. The only QB even close to that durable would be Big Ben, and even he is injured right now. The Brady/Manning/Rogers of the NFL would be on IR by now with the beating that Luck has taken so far this yr.

    Stafford is in his second straight season of getting crushed every week. Not saying Luck isn’t tough, but watch some Lions games…I feel bad for Stafford with the O-Line issues they have in Detroit.

    That said, Luck’s problems are two-fold. First, he needs a real O-Line, and that is all on the GM. The second factor is effectng the whole team. A lame-duck head coach makes every player question the direction of the team. And when a guy has been successful, such as Harbaugh in Frisco, or Pagano in Indy, there is no reason for the team to leave them hanging, unless they are just going to hang.

    Every player in that locker room (except Luck) is wondering if he will have a job there next year with a regime-change in the wind. Blame Irsay and Grigson equally.

    And for those typically delusional fans looking for Harbaugh to come in and fix everything, consider this: he is in year one with his alma-mater, loves the job, and his team is already better than expected.

    In addition, why would he go into a situation as dysfunctional as the one he just got fired from in Frisco? If/When he returns to the NFL, he will have his choice of teams, and Indy won’t be on that list.

  63. 1.) Luck has never had a good offensive line but yet still producing this well through three seasons.

    2.) Look at the teams he faced in his first two games, the Bills and Jets. Not only to mention that they’re outstanding defenses but he had to play them early in the season when defenses are always ahead of offenses.

    3.) Luck has a lot of new faces around him with RB, WRs, and many of the lineman. Chemistry takes a while to develop.

    Lastly, I would love for all of you to save this article and come back to it in December so you could have a good laugh.

  64. keep in mind it’s only week 3!!

    cryan grigson & irsay are cooking up somethin’ big for the Pats!! They’re going DOWN!!!

    HAHAHHA….OK, even a colts fan like me thinks that’s funny…and living in this city with this team, you need to be able to laugh!

    #suckwithluck

  65. brenenostler says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:49 PM

    Quit making things up to make yourself feel better about your Pats. They’re playing just fine anyway, so I don’t see why you even care to troll on the Colts

    ———————–

    We just love watching the kensil conspiracy colts choke on the karma.

    even with mortenson’s help you can’t lie your way to legitimacy

  66. This is not news to Russell Wilson fans that have been arguing the Luck vs Wilson debate the last three years. Other than total yards the stats aren’t really even close. Russell wins easily.

    Funny how RG3 used to be in that conversation. Oh and BTW Wilson’s OLine is actually WORSE than Luck’s.

    Back to back super bowls after three years of playing the game. If that was Andrew everyone would already have him as the best player in any sport ever. Nomatter what his numbers actually were.

    Isn’t it funny that if Payton gets back to the sb again one last time this year it will be on the back of that currently awesome defense and effective running game? Things people actually hold against Russell. That’s football folks. It’s a team sport.

  67. Luck isn’t bad, but can the media just finally give up on trying to anoint him as the next best thing already? Let him earn it. Until he can dramatically reduce the amount of interceptions he throws, he shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as Rodgers and Brady.

  68. eazeback says:
    Sep 29, 2015 12:08 PM
    numbers schmumbers……id say 30 teams would trade their QB for him in a heartbeat… including the pats and broncos, because of their QB’s respective ages. only team that wouldnt would be the packers cuz rodgers still has plenty of under the center time left in his career
    =====================
    You wish you could trade your overrated bust for the GOAT, I think several teams would keep their respective QBs over Andrew (S)uck including Pats, Packers, Falcons, Seahawks, Panthers, Cowboys, Titans, Cardinals, maybe even Vikings, Jaguars, Buccaneers and even the Bengals with consideration of price tags and cap space. Keep deluding yourself, Luck is already as overrated as the greatly overrated Peyton Manning, he’ll be lucky to even sniff a SB with that garbage franchise.

  69. I said it a Looooong time ago.

    Luck is Very Good, NOT GREAT, and NO WHERE NEAR ELITE!!!

    Let’s see it for what it REALLY is!!!

    He beats up on his division(Undefeated in his Career Vs the AFC South) Meanwhile he’s UNDER .500 against the rest of the league!!!

    Like many others that have come before him, he wins the games he’s supposed to win and is an AVERAGE QB against top competition!

    Which coincidentally is the opposite of a guy like Wilson that ROUTINELY BEATS the upper echelon QB led opponents.

    JM2C

  70. So I went back and adjusted the QB ratings for Luck, adding the fumbles lost to the interception count, since a turnover is a turnover, and I suspected the fact that fumbles don’t count in traditional QB ratings was masking how bad he is at keeping the ball in his team’s hands. Here’s the regular QB rating, and then the adjusted numbers, by year:

    2012: 76.5 / 73.2
    2013: 87.0 / 85.6
    2014: 96.5 / 92.5

    His biggest drop was last year, and that’s not counting the 7 fumbles that his team recovered, that basically amounted to the same impact as a sack would have.

    The drop isn’t HUGE, but it takes him from looking like a border-line elite QB, to a good but not great QB. I hear a lot of excuses being made for him, and I’m reminded of what people did with Peyton; the guy had elite talent around him, but there was always an excuse when he would fail. You don’t hear the same excuses for Brady or for Rodgers for instance. In Peyton’s case he at least was putting up elite numbers most of the time, in a career that was largely pre-modern pass-happy era. Luck’s whole career has been in this era, and his stats when you include fumbles lost, and fumbles, don’t paint the picture of someone that’s elite.

    Lastly, just for fun:
    2015 (through first two games): 58.1 / 54.1

  71. Don’t worry Luck. You play for the Colts. There’s always an excuse for bad QB play when you play for the Colts.

  72. The only reason why Luck doesn’t have to worry about his QB Rating falling below RG3’s is because his career QBR is and always has been lower than RG3’s.

  73. Don’t worry Colts fans, Irsay is going to the competition committee in the offseason to get a rule change instituted that says if your QB has the lowest rating it means your team is now the best, because that’s how the Colts roll in the era of participation banners!!!

  74. LOL. Hey Browns – my browns – call Irsay and say we’re sorry for the Richardson trade and offer to take Luck off their hands for Manziel. Straight up.

  75. As a Colts Fan I am very much looking forward to hopefully seeing Andrew Luck behind a competent Offensive Line one day… because we certainly haven’t seen it yet and we are in year 4.

    I remember what a good OLine was like, but it’s been about a decade since we’ve had one.

    Get rid of Grigson, get an Offensive Line, a young long term Franchise RB and let’s finally give Luck the balanced team he deserves.

    The Colts are limited on what they can do until they finally address the OLine and complete the Defense.

  76. Not sure the Pats will beat the Colt in Indy, but I am sure they would crush the Colts I’ve watched for the last three weeks. Something needs to change.

  77. If we were going to vote a qb out of the HOF it would have to be Joe Namath. He has a career completion rate of 50.1% with 173 TD’s and 220 int’s. Positively Tebow-esque.

  78. The change in what constitutes a great QB is already happening. In the past, a guy that could huck the ball down field and hook up with a speedy WR a few times a game was the goal. Because of the better QBs in the league, that is the old and dangerous path.

    Now, like Brady in New England, even Rodgers eschews the long passes for the short catch and run plays. Why? Because it wins football games.

    There is far less risk of turnover, and you manage the clock in your own team’s favor by just moving the chains down the field steadily instead of going for the long bomb all the time. Young QBs should take note.

    Could Luck become a greatly productive offensive leader of some team in the future? Of that I have no doubt. But not with the crappy game planning he’s getting from the current Colts’ coaching staff., and the weak supporting cast he’s getting from their front office.

    When it comes right down to it, all of an offense’s production is dependant on having an effective front line. That is NOT what Indy has right now.

  79. His OL sucks and always has and now he has happy feet like Pats Drew Bledsoe and Tony Eason used to have. Eason especially in the SB vs the Bears in 86, although I couldn’t have blamed him, that team was vicious.

  80. Can the Colts and Chiefs get a swap goin’ on? Say Andrew for Alex Smith and the entire Chiefs O-line. Without maybe Grubs and Morse.
    Naaaahhhh.

  81. His line is terrible, end of story. The man doesn’t exist that can play QB in the NFL at an elite level on a consistent basis without at least an average line.

    They can keep Luck clean on 3 step drops, let alone have the ability to call routes that take time to develop.

    That doesn’t mean it’s easily fixable, or will be fixed at all. Their line has been suspect as long as Luck has been there, and they seem intent on ignoring it to bring in high prices vets on D, and more WR on O. Until they are going to be willing to build the line from the ground up, Luck will be in trouble

  82. lionsandvikingsandbearsohmy says:
    Sep 29, 2015 4:50 PM
    in 10 seasons, aaron rodgers has thrown 57 interceptions. andrew luck, 3 games into his 4th season has 50. TURRIBLE

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    Weak comparison. Since by 3 games into his 4th season, Rodgers was the starter for exactly 3 games.

    Once learned from 3 years on the sidelines. One learned under fire. Of course the numbers will reflect that

    your analysis is TURRIBLE

  83. The Colts balls were measured at the end of the half after the Pats balls were measured twice allowing them to warm up in an over crowded ref locker room. That is the reason they only checked 4 of the Colts balls, they ran out of time.

    Then 3 were still below the 12.5 league minimum on the gauge the Ref said he used. But Pash or Nash along with Wells said he must have misremembered which gauge he used but accepted every other answer he gave to their questions.

    The problem with Luck is he’s always going for the home run and holds the ball to long. With a bad OL he needs to get rid of it quicker but he waits 4-6 seconds on most plays. Anyone watching the game vs the Jets could see that. Well except for his coaches.

  84. Colts fan here. Keep the comments coming… I wouldn’t want to piss Luck off. Any given Sunday he can beat any team. He plays best from behind. Here’s a tip… Don’t bet against Luck. Variances happen. Colts and their fans are dedicated. For what it’s worth Peyton held the record for int’s his rookie year. I believe Blake Bortles broke it. With Luck on our side, we will always have a chance any given Sunday.

  85. rekroot says:
    Sep 29, 2015 6:01 PM
    Colts fan here. Keep the comments coming… I wouldn’t want to piss Luck off. Any given Sunday he can beat any team. He plays best from behind. Here’s a tip… Don’t bet against Luck. Variances happen. Colts and their fans are dedicated. For what it’s worth Peyton held the record for int’s his rookie year. I believe Blake Bortles broke it. With Luck on our side, we will always have a chance any given Sunday.
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    You barely beat the Titans…..I don’t think too many teams are trembling at the thought of Luck and the Colts.

  86. sumkat says:
    Sep 29, 2015 5:34 PM
    lionsandvikingsandbearsohmy says:
    Sep 29, 2015 4:50 PM
    in 10 seasons, aaron rodgers has thrown 57 interceptions. andrew luck, 3 games into his 4th season has 50. TURRIBLE

    _____________

    Weak comparison. Since by 3 games into his 4th season, Rodgers was the starter for exactly 3 games.

    Once learned from 3 years on the sidelines. One learned under fire. Of course the numbers will reflect that

    your analysis is TURRIBLE
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    You’re ignoring the fact that that still puts Rodgers throwing 57 interceptions over 6 years while Luck has 50 in 3 years.

  87. sumkat says:
    Sep 29, 2015 5:34 PM
    lionsandvikingsandbearsohmy says:
    Sep 29, 2015 4:50 PM
    in 10 seasons, aaron rodgers has thrown 57 interceptions. andrew luck, 3 games into his 4th season has 50. TURRIBLE

    _____________

    Weak comparison. Since by 3 games into his 4th season, Rodgers was the starter for exactly 3 games.

    Once learned from 3 years on the sidelines. One learned under fire. Of course the numbers will reflect that

    your analysis is TURRIBLE

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    what makes people think not playing made rodgers better?? if he was going to be great, he was going to be great, and luck has 3 years experience at this point in his career rodgers never got. in his first 50 starts, rodgers had 32 picks to luck’s 48.

  88. pftjunkie says:Sep 29, 2015 12:52 PM

    When the Colts decide to get serious about building an adequate offensive line for Luck, then we can discuss his passing rating. Until then, can anyone think of a QB in the league right now that could take the pounding that Luck has been taking? He has absolutely no time at all to get the ball thrown before he is pummeled. The only QB even close to that durable would be Big Ben, and even he is injured right now. The Brady/Manning/Rogers of the NFL would be on IR by now with the beating that Luck has taken so far this yr.
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    Rodgers was the most hit QB in 2011 had the 32nd ranked running game and 32nd ranked defense. Still went 15-1.

    If you’re a good QB you can overcome anything, even a bad OL.

  89. Luck is good, but he’s not ever going to be like Aaron Rogers. Until this season, many people thought he would be–not me, though.

  90. As soon as he can Luck will get the fork out of Indy and head east to New England.

    There he will sign with the hated you-know-whos, don the number 13 and spend a season standing on the sideline healing and watching #12 show him how to play, while at the same time healing inwardly by being with a top-notch organization. Then #12 will step down, #13 will step up and life will go on as usual for the obnoxious arrogant New England fans. (I’m one of them)

    30 other teams will go ballistic at this revoltin’ development, Goodell will call for a congressional inquiry under President Cruz, Indy will have an absolute cow over it, and the (hated and feared) coach and GM of the other team – the you-know-whos – when asked what it all means will simply shrug and say ” we’re just looking forward to Cincinnati”

    You heard it here first

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