Myles Jack surprised Jim Mora questioned his decision

AP

Injured UCLA star Myles Jack had talked it over with head coach Jim Mora, heard his concerns, but thought he had his former coach’s blessing to withdraw from school to prepare for his NFL career.

Little did he know Mora was going to take shots at his decision, saying it was “very risky to do this” with just three games of film from his junior season for NFL scouts to evaluate.

(Never mind that Jets cornerback Antonio Cromartie was drafted 19th overall with no games of film from his junior season because of a torn ACL, Mora has a UCLA program to run here.)

“It was kind of a brief conversation, straight and to the point, and we just came to the agreement that it was the best decision,” Jack told Michael Silver of the NFL Network. “It went pretty smoothly. He wanted to make sure I was 100-percent sure, and that it was really what I wanted to do, and not just what others wanted.

In the end, he said that if that’s what I want to do, he would back me up 1,000 percent, and that whatever I needed to do to try to get to the next level, he would help me any way he could.”

So Jack was taken aback to hear Mora’s remarks, but was comfortable with his own call.

“It definitely surprised me, but I don’t know — maybe that’s what he felt,” Jack said. “I mean, it’s a little crazy down there right now. They just suffered their first defeat [to Arizona State], and these are crazy times around here. But I’m still riding with the Bruins.

“Coming from him, I can’t discredit what he’s done in the NFL, so I have to value his opinion. I have no choice but to respect his opinion and take what he says into consideration. The only scout I know is my head coach, so what he says, I have to take it seriously. But I’m definitely glad I made the decision.”

Jack shouldn’t be surprised, as colleges take very seriously their custody of the practically unpaid interns who provide the labor for their multi-million dollar corporations.

“I remember when I was a freshman I saw them selling my jersey [at the student store],” Jack said. “I looked at the price tag: $65.99. I said, ‘Ah, man, that’s messed up.'”

So instead of protecting their financial interest, he chose his own. He said he plans to return to UCLA to finish his degree at some point, which is smart, since the average NFL career is around four seasons, and he’s already recovering from a major knee injury. But by that time, he won’t be able to help Mora, so it’s little surprise the support he thought he had didn’t last long.

42 responses to “Myles Jack surprised Jim Mora questioned his decision

  1. I don’t understand why you left either…It was unnecessary…now you’re going to rack up debt from some agent while rehabbing with no insurance coverage unless it’s provided by that agent…why not use UCLA’s facilities, watch film, and support your teammates…you could’ve dropped a couple classes and still remained eligible…smh

  2. They weren’t selling “your” jersey. They were selling UCLA’s jersey. NFL players don’t get a cut of their individual jersey sales either. You should definitely stay in school.

  3. If a person doesn’t want to be an athlete in a ‘multi million dollar corporation’, then maybe they should just go to school like the average person.

    I would have loved to go to college on a full scholarship. They could have sold my jersey as well. As long as didn’t have student loans to pay off, free medical from the university, I’d be fine and happy.

    His comment of the jersey being sold just shows he’s only in it for the money. I see a future hold out in the NFL coming.

  4. Then why not work on your education while it is still “free”?

    We all know the answer. He won’t get his education, as much as he clearly needs it.

  5. A few questions:
    1. Who will pay for his re-hab and training for the next year? Are his parents wealthy or does he have an agent paying the bills?
    2. A player coming off a major knee injury, Three games of film against so-so opposition, and dropping out of college will make NFL teams leery to draft him, esp in the top 5 rounds.
    3. Why give up your scholarship, and education, worth around $50K, to pursue a dream that may be fleeting at best?

    I see him as a 7th round pick at best. UDFA more likely. I suspect his agent has bent his ear severely.

  6. Bad comparison with Cromartie, who is a huge athletic freak for his position. Jack is a really, really undersized LB who now doesn’t get to show that he really does have the instincts on film to make up for it. He’d be a huge RB, but he’s not exactly seen as a top level, can’t miss RB. This was a questionable decision, period. You can keep beating the college-football-is-evil drum here, but this really doesn’t seem like a well thought out plan for the kid. The guy is 20 lbs lighter than an average NFL LB and isn’t going to have any tape. Good luck.

  7. The only thing he could have stayed in school and got that great education to take care of his family in the future. I mean he probably will only make 50 or 60 million in the first few years and that barely buys Nikes for the kids.

  8. If he didn’t get injured I suspected he would go pro anyways after the season. Not sure why this move is so surprising to anyone. He is unbelievable and will be a first round pick and a stud in the NFL.

  9. I’m pretty sure everyone advocating that Jack should have stayed in school lacked the talent to play at the NFL level. Just a guess.

    Move on, young man. You served your apprenticeship. Now, go get paid.

  10. Myles: You did the right thing. Go into rehab with 100% effort. The worst thing might be to sit still in a classroom, while your knee is healing. You can always go back and finish school. Many have done that. But you only have one chance to make $150 million in the NFL. The scouts can already see what you can do. There is plenty of film on you already. If your knee heals 100%, you don’t have anything to worry about. Right now it should be all about your knee. You’re holding the winning lotto ticket. Jim Mora is looking out for Jim Mora.

  11. A college degree isn’t worth much nowadays, I hire plenty of them each year, and they would have to work 15 years to make what a 3-4 round pick would get with their first contract. So a three year deal worth $600,000 is equalivent to a starting salesman salary of 24K ……for 25 years!!!! And you guys want them to stay in school for that? How many graduates actually graduate with starting salaries of $80k?

  12. Still wondering why Jack chose UCLA. Maybe he wanted to be a doctor? This guy is easily a pro roster member. I hope Seattle brings him home and grooms him as Kam’s successor.
    Go Hawks!

  13. In this thread, we have lots of people who have never seen Miles Jack play football. A pass-first NFL doesn’t need every linebacker to be 250lbs. Two full years of tape is just fine, he’ll have a good combine and get drafted.

  14. immafubared says:
    Oct 7, 2015 10:37 AM
    The only thing he could have stayed in school and got that great education to take care of his family in the future. I mean he probably will only make 50 or 60 million in the first few years and that barely buys Nikes for the kids.
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    good luck with that. if he was picked first overall (not a shot) he would get about 35M over 4 years including a signing bonus. If he goes in the 3rd round (which might be over projecting an undersized LB coming off a major injury) he will get about 3M over 4 years (give or take a few hundred K). Take %50 of that in taxes, take out the agent fees, whatever debt he incurs during his rehab (which would have been paid for if he stayed in school until the end of the year) and he is probably looking at more like 1M or so over 4 years. if he does ball out then his 2nd contract will take care of him, if not then who knows.

    also, i doubt he ever finishes his college education, from the reports going around, he never got a high school education either.

  15. Nice of you folks to have opinions on what other people should do with THEIR lives, THEIR future and THEIR money.

    Remember all the folks who told Kevin Garnett not to go to the NBA right out of high school. How did that work out?

    Kids enter the NHL draft, MLB and the tennis tour at high school age and many times it doesn’t work out. Why is it when young men of color decide to pursue their dreams these questions come up. He’s a grown man he can make his own decisions.

  16. The minimum NFL salary for a rookie this year is about $435,000 with a $90,000 increase each year for 4 years. And that’s assuming he only gets the minimum. Do you know how much Jack gets paid if he returns to school next year? $0. Plus he gets to shoulder the risk if he suffers another season ending lost.

    Secondly…..with the NFL capping rookie contracts they created an incentive to come out early to ensure they get to their free agent year when they can either be franchised and paid multi millions or if not franchised sign their very first contract that’s not capped dollar wise by the CBA.

    This is a no brainer. Leave school. Concentrate your full energy on rehabilitation for a very real goal of signing at minimum a contract worth about $1.5 million over 4 years.

    Everyone else with their fake concerns on Jacks well being need to realize school is always their. It’s always available at almost any age. If the NCAA is truly concern about these athletes completing their education they should have a policy that tuition is free for them even after they declare for the NFL. A few schools do this. Ohio state did it for Maurice Clarett. But we know the real reason they have these athletes at their school is not to educate them but rather to monetize them so such a policy that should have been passed long ago doesn’t exist.

  17. Jack shouldn’t be surprised, as colleges take very seriously their custody of the practically unpaid interns
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    Practically unpaid? That’s a lie. Tell that to everyone spending 15 years paying off student loans.

  18. unkleruckus says:

    A college degree isn’t worth much nowadays, I hire plenty of them each year, and they would have to work 15 years to make what a 3-4 round pick would get with their first contract.
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    And most 3-4th round picks (and 1-2’s) are filing for bankruptcy 5 years after they stop playing, have no degree to fall back on and no job skills.

  19. I don’t understand why you left either…It was unnecessary…now you’re going to rack up debt from some agent while rehabbing with no insurance coverage unless it’s provided by that agent…why not use UCLA’s facilities, watch film, and support your teammates…you could’ve dropped a couple classes and still remained eligible…smh

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    Except he did have the insurance. He has a policy that will pay out $5M if he doesn’t get taken in the 1st round. He would’ve been stupid not to go now. His best scenario is to be taken in the 2nd round, get the highest salary he can while still collecting that $5M. You people are embarrassing yourselves questioning a 21 y/o’s personal decision about the future of his career. It’s kinda scary that people actually think this way, as if he owes UCLA something. I had student loans too. Why would I hold an athlete getting a free ride for school against them? They have a skill I don’t. They have every right to ask for more if they feel they are entitled to it. Isn’t that what all you free market capitalists are all about?

  20. I am so tired of hearing college athletes work for free and need to get paid… a FREE education is a damn good trade off if you ask me. 4 years in-state tuition at UCLA is over $120,000. Out of state is pushing $200,000. As a scholarship athlete they have to choice to live on campus for free with a meal plan. Not to mention that many D1 schools have a special cafeteria for athletes only.

    When you sign an agreement to play college sports you agree that you wont get paid to play. Same for everyone working a normal job, you agree to work for an agreed amount regardless of the company’s profit.

  21. Where does the notion he will have to pay for his own rehab? He got hurt while playing for UCLA. Whether he is there or not, they are still responsible for all costs associated with his recovery. There is nothing coming out of his pocket except the cost to feed himself.

  22. One has to wonder what shenanigans UCLA pulled to get Myles Jack past the admissions department and keep him eligible. He went to a high school that is under investigation for being a diploma mill and half the classes didn’t even have teachers. It’s also well known around UCLA that he doesn’t go to classes, but magically gets the grades.

    As another poster pointed out, he’s a tweener: too small for linebacker in the NFL and too slow for a safety. He has great instincts and athleticism though.

  23. abninf says:
    Oct 7, 2015 11:35 AM
    Practically unpaid? That’s a lie. Tell that to everyone spending 15 years paying off student loans.

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    I suspect that most of the people donwnvoting you and others never went to college and never had to know the struggles students go through to make ends meet. Then we have a nice hefty student loan debt to pay off when we graduate. Meanwhile, the athletes got the nice dorms, free meals (while we ate ramen and dumpster dived), free clothing, free tutors, first choice in hard-to-get classes, etc.

  24. “Everyone else with their fake concerns on Jacks well being need to realize school is always their.”

    It’s there not their. And Maurice Clarett is an awful example of anything but a guy that had it all & was more interested in being a punk. I know he’s turned it around since his release but a poor example.

  25. ^^ Not so fast…

    In reality, Universities are *NOT* liable for injuries student-athletes sustain in competition. Currently the NCAA requires schools to ensure that every student-athlete has insurance for sports-related injuries. **The schools don’t necessarily pay for that insurance, however.**

    The athlete’s or parents’ insurance often pays for these expenses, and the family often faces paying the deductibles and out-of-pocket medical costs themselves. In the rare circumstances in which an athlete’s claims reach $90,000, the NCAA’s catastrophic insurance plan covers these costs.

    In Jack’s case, however, the Pac-12 changed its rules last season to help cover these expenses. In addition to guaranteeing four-year scholarships for athletes and easing transfers between schools, these changes would ensure that the medical expenses for athletes injured during their college playing days would be covered up to four years after they leave school.

    In any event, Jack is totally covered. He took out an insurance policy after his freshman year. If he’s not an NFL first-rounder, he will get $5 million.

  26. Just be he said it’s risky doesn’t mean he doesn’t support him. It is risky..he told the truth..but still can be behind him. Media trying to cause a problem.

  27. clk320cpe says:
    Oct 7, 2015 12:13 PM
    “Everyone else with their fake concerns on Jacks well being need to realize school is always their.”

    It’s there not their. And Maurice Clarett is an awful example of anything but a guy that had it all & was more interested in being a punk. I know he’s turned it around since his release but a poor example.
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    Poor example how? Clarett is absolutely a great example of a university standing by their we are a family mantra. He left school early, messed up big time, went to jail, and finally when he did grow up Ohio state was there to provide him with tuition and a true shot at rehabilitation. That’s what an organization that says we’re family and we care about out student athlete does. Ohio state didn’t have anything further to gain financially by doing that. I have much respect for any University that stands up and does things like that. Truly walking the walk.

  28. College degrees are worthless without the job that should follow. Those jobs are now gone, but that doesn’t stop people who live in the past from encouraging more kids to go into tens of thousands of dollars of debt. Why do we need more STEM teachers in high school when the kids will be asking,”Would you like fries with that?” upon graduation? How much science do you need to operate a shovel or a stepladder? Regardless of their specific education, unskilled low paying employment is what the vast majority of new graduates must now embrace.

    Teach the kids how to hunt, how to fish, and how to defend themselves. Teach them how to survive in the woods and give them a weapon to do that with. They’ll live better than they will in the city making ten dollars an hour at two part-time jobs.

  29. BTW, Jack isn’t a tweener. He’d only be a tweener if he was trying to play with his hand on the ground like Michael Sam. Just because Kam Chancellor is gigantic and fast doesn’t mean 6’4 235lbs is the new safety prototype.

    Miles Jack is the exact same size as Jack Ham and plays the same position. If he puts on 10 pounds, as we can expect 20 year old linebackers to do on entering the pros, he’ll be the exact same size as Derrick Brooks.

  30. He gave up his right to call himself a Bruin when he left the team. Hopefully, they revoked his scholarship (his payment) and removed him from campus.

    You’ve got to be out of your mind to think that getting paid 40 grand a year while in college isn’t getting paid.

  31. purplengold says:
    Oct 7, 2015 12:55 PM
    College degrees are worthless without the job that should follow. Those jobs are now gone, but that doesn’t stop people who live in the past from encouraging more kids to go into tens of thousands of dollars of debt. Why do we need more STEM teachers in high school when the kids will be asking,”Would you like fries with that?” upon graduation? How much science do you need to operate a shovel or a stepladder?
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    That’s an extremely broad generalization. We need more STEM students and teachers, not less. Why are you attacking science and engineering? Why are you attacking education and then promoting hunting and fishing? That’s very odd. That technology you use to talk, surf the web, watch TV, etc? Science and engineering. That healthcare and medical advancement we receive? Science. The satellites we put up in space to improve communications? Engineering. The exploration for new fossil and renewable energies? Science and engineering.

    The society where you prefer an uneducated society is one I would not want to live in.

  32. I’m not surprised at all that Mora said one thing to him and did another. As far as former Falcons coaches go, Mora is not as slimy as Petrino, but definitely has a little weasel in him.

  33. Most universities are run by

    elitist democratic liberal puke

    who love to use / abuse its athletes while throwing them away like a rotten piece of meat when they get hurt or lose their talent.

    College Football has become like the diamond mines of So Africa………..

    Jack is a smart man who sees the big picture.

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