Getty ImagesSunday, the Jaguars beat the Ravens on a field goal that came on an untimed down after time expired due to penalty.
Monday, the NFL acknowledged that that field goal never should have happened and that the last timed play of the game should have been blown dead because the Jaguars weren’t set.
Oops.
NFL Spokesman Michael Signora said that officials erred in allowing the play to go on despite all 11 Jaguars not being set. Jaguars quarterback Blake Bortles was taken down by Elvis Dumervil of the Ravens on that play but was taken down by his facemask, resulting in a 15-yard penalty and an untimed down.
Jason Myers made a 53-yard field goal on the next play to give the Jaguars a 22-20 win.
Per Signora, the correct call would have been a false start on the Jaguars who weren’t set. A 10-second runoff for that penalty in that situation would have ended the game.
Instead, the Jaguars moved to 3-6 and the Ravens fell to 2-7.
An officiating mistake changing the outcome of a game? In 2015? No way!
Just put salt on the Raven’s wounds.
I LOVE IT!
Who cares? The Ravens deserved to lose anyways. What a terrible game.
Somehow this will be blamed on Belichik.
No penalty on the guy who spun a guy around and pulled him to the ground by his facemask?
Karma for Suggs trying to hurt players is still hitting the Ravens…
Good.
What a terrible way for the Ravens to lose the game. It was almost as if … karma ruled the day! The season?
ronfai says:
Nov 16, 2015 5:21 PM
No penalty on the guy who spun a guy around and pulled him to the ground by his facemask?
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A false start would have ended the play before it happened, so the facemask would never have had a chance to happen.
You gotta let coaches challenge everything
Could not have happen to a nicer Coach…..
Rather get the W but Ravens will now get a higher draft pick at least.
Better draft position for the Ravens so they can’t be too, too upset. Jaguar coaches are lucky because I’m not sure how many 3-5 win seasons they can buy themselves behind the “headed in the right direction” excuse.
This nitpicking of the officials will ruin the game.
3 and 6 vs. 2 and 7. the Universe remains stable despite this blown call.
Officials too busy throwing flags on phantom penalties. Ed Hochuli just needs his mug in front of the cameras every 5 minutes or so and that needs to end.
If I’m a Ravens fan, I’m happy. This is a lost season, and the Jags are a team that the Ravens will be battling for a top 3 pick.
It may sting now if you’re a Ravens fan, but you’ll be very happy come Draft Day when you have one less team standing between you and a coveted blue-chip prospect.
How about the fact that they also gave them 20 yards instead of 15 for the facemask penalty?
Couldn’t have happened to a better group of guys.
karma for attacking tom brady
We will never falter
This is amazing. Every week there is one clear officiating mistake that changes the outcome of the game! And nothing from 345 Park Ave?
Umm, when the zebras make constant mistakes causing wins to be losses and losses to be wins, doesn’t that impact the integrity of the game?
When it happens to the Jets, then it’ll be looked into.
Hmmm, I guess I am as confused as the officials were. I always thought that the game could not end on a defensive penalty and that a personal foul counted even during a dead ball.
The Jags penalty would have come first and the Ravens last???
Somebody, please send Harbaugh a copy of the rule book immediately.
Be careful there may be riots in Baltimore…..oh wait….
You know what the problem is are the replacement Refs!!!! They need to get the regular refs back as soon as they can because they are making a mockery of the game.
And the refs will not be punished at all…..
So this will continue, good job NFL.
Please continue to fine players for wearing colors to honor family members that have suffered or passed away from cancer though, that seems more necessary(insert extreme sarcasm).
Eh, we suck any way. If Kendrick Lewis had caught that pick, this wouldn’t have mattered. I’m numb to all the losing.
-Disgruntled Ravens fan.
So what you’re saying is that basically the ONLY outcome of the game is it ending after the penalty is assessed and the Ravens win it? So why can’t the NFL reverse the outcome in this situation?
Instant replay solves everything…. NOT
Well this is about the best example you can have of a bad call affecting the outcome of a game. It’s not an obscure rule either. They are supposedly trained to watch for this on every single play. Time to seriously fix the rules and officiating.
Let’s face it, if the refs made every call correctly every time games would be 8 hours long.
Of course we don’t want every call correct, do we? Only the ones that benefit our teams.
Eliminate official reviews, challenge flags, give viewers one replay form on angle. Like the good old days. The we cold really argue about calls and outcomes as opposed to what we have now. A bunch of schoolchildren calling each other cheaters.
Technology has not improved the experience. Social media is near to destroying it, along with everything else.
And Hamilton did not rough Stabler except in the cheating mind and black heart of Ben Drieth.
The NFL should stop admitting on Mondays it got calls wrong. Try getting them right on Sundays!
All you Harbaugh haters now know what he was so upset about.
Kudos for the NFL for admitting the mistake. The officials are human, and mistakes will happen.
Awful knowing a mistake directly impacted the outcome of the game, but the only thing they can do moving forward is learn from it and ensure this particular error does not occur again.
S’all good. Rather have that top 5 pick next year than a pointless win over the Jags now. And as long as the mighty Curse of Tebow holds up, all the better.
I’d be fine with this if the end result is that Jags want to move up in the first round and give the Ravens their 2017 first to do it. Bring on some Ls and a top 5 pick!
As long as the balls were properly inflated…
Is anybody keeping track of how many game results have probably/definitely been wrong because of bad calls?
Besides Vegas, that is.
Omg, this is awsome, Harbaugh getting beat by a mistake.
To begin with the dirty Suggs playing Ravens deserve all the bad karma they get. Dummer villain should have never been grabbing at Bortles mask anyway but that’s just how the Ravens play it. Dirty.
I love watching the Ravens demise.
Go pat’s!
Ravens are a classless team
“Instead, the Jaguars moved to 3-6 and the Ravens fell to 2-7.”
And surprisingly few people seemed to care
at this point of the season, this benefits the Ravens. Think they’d be all juiced up to be 3 and 6? It’s not like they were going to the playoffs. All this does is assure them of a higher draft pick then they were headed for.
That’s a bad beat, but Ravens fans will be happy about it when draft time comes around.
This is a rare and isolated officiating mistake. Won’t happen again.
So, with that penalty, the game should have ended because the play never actually should have happened. So the standings, the draft order and all kinds of stuff are changed because the league has no recourse but to admit their game is screwed up, again. League officials won’t do anything to award the win to the team who actually won. What a fine mess!
How is it Karma that the Ravens lost a game that they actually won? They obviously scored more points than the Jags did. The league just tagged three more on at the end and changed the score.
Patriots fans sure do know how to make everything about them, don’t they?
Way too much of this garbage already and the season is barely half over. It’s like they’re trying to kill the golden goose.
Once a product deteriorates to a certain level of quality, even the most loyal customers will quit buying it.
Stuff like this happens…..in the WWE.
Refs were lucky Ray Ray wasn’t playing in that game. Might have broken out the “lost” white suit.
To the guy who asked if we want the refs to call every penalty..
What we/I want is for the rules and the officials to be consistent. Consistent through each game. And consistent amongst every group of refs.
If you’re calling a penalty in the first minute, you should be calling the same penalty in the last minute. Decide the rules, and enforce the rules evenly throughout. Not everything will be seen, obviously, but more often than not refs will call DPI, or a hold, then almost the exact same thing happens 4 or 5 times and no flags are thrown. If it’s a foul the first time it’s a foul the second, third, and fourth time too. Have consistency to what is called!
Secondly – There’s no reason one group of refs only called two defensive pass interference penalties all year and another called 25. Games are decided by what group of refs you get. That shouldn’t be the case. It should be easy to identify what’s a foul, and what isn’t, and have those fouls applied nearly evenly by every group of officials. Again, have some consistency.
Too many times I’ve heard announcers say that certain groups of officials throw a lot more or a lot less flags than other groups of officials. How is that possible? Unless, the rules are too complex for the officials to understand and/or they have too much leeway to applying the rules.
The lack of consistency directly brings into question the integrity of the officials and the league.
So, basically, the Colts trick but this time it worked? hahaha.
Every week it seems there is an officiating error that affects the outcome of a game. Here’s a thought instead of spending millions going after Tom Brady , you know the same Tom Brady the NFL admitted in federal court they had no evidence on. Maybe put that $$ towards hiring full time refs! It’s about the integrity of the game , right Roger?!
ravens2xworldchamps says:
Nov 16, 2015 5:29 PM
We will never falter
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What do you call being 2-7?
Everything going against the Ravens this year and it might be a blessing in disguise this could easy be a 7-1 and they will have a top ten pick
questionableprovenance says:
Nov 16, 2015 5:36 PM
As long as the balls were properly inflated…
Is anybody keeping track of how many game results have probably/definitely been wrong because of bad calls?
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They’re too busy keeping track of the Patriots fumble count.
ronfai says:
Nov 16, 2015 5:21 PM
No penalty on the guy who spun a guy around and pulled him to the ground by his facemask?
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The play would have been blown dead, meaning there would be no pass rush, no facemask, no extra play, no field goal because false start would have been a 10 second run off and the game would have ended. Got it now?
So, the Ravens got hosed?
Couldn’t happen to a more deserving team.
This is just getting ridiculous! These mistakes should be available in this day and age. The NFL is becoming unwatchable. Penalty flags seem to fly on every single play on top of weekly blunders by referees who look like they stepped right out of a three stooges movie. The NFL has become a joke with the seemingly endless string of screw ups under the current commissioner watch. The ‘integrity of the sheld’ babble from NFL head quarters is a bunch of hogwash at this point. It’s more like the ‘integrity of the billion dollar revenue stream’ and the heck with everything else!
“Hmmm, I guess I am as confused as the officials were. I always thought that the game could not end on a defensive penalty and that a personal foul counted even during a dead ball.
The Jags penalty would have come first and the Ravens last???”
A few people seem to be confused by this. Had the false start been called, the play would have been blown dead. So the sack/facemask would not have happened. The play never would have gotten underway.
Then – with the 10 second runoff the clock would have expired.
Here you have a clear chance to correct a mistake. The victory can in fact be awarded to the Ravens because there is no further plays that would have happened.
To bad for jump ball over paid Flacco
How long until the NFL addresses the officiating? Things just keep getting worse year after year and only a few of these guys are ever actually punished. Bring on the full-time officials and fire these clowns who are too old (or too stupid) to do the job.
So correct the mistake and award the Ravens the win.
Just a little karma for the Ray-vens.
Hmmm, I guess I am as confused as the officials were. I always thought that the game could not end on a defensive penalty and that a personal foul counted even during a dead ball.
The Jags penalty would have come first and the Ravens last???
Try reading… The play should have been blown dead prior to the foul happening..
In unrelated news, 80% of all holding calls go unnoticed. Refs missed a penalty… ya, happens all the time.
The fact that it was material to the outcome of this particular game is irrelevant.
Mistakes happen.
Couldn’t happen to a better team….nice job officials and the Jags win another game….Harbaugh deserves everything bad that comes to his team…..
The replacement refs — remember them? They were berated here and everywhere else for calls way less impactful than this, with the obvious “calls to action” that followed.
And yet now, we’re apparently supposed to accept what we’ve got as if this is the best we can do– or better yet, maybe pay them more money just so we can be sure they’re the best!? I’d love a job where I can address poor performance by demanding a pay raise.
Morelli. What a surprise. What is it going to take to get this idiot FIRED. My god.
I thought all the ridiculous penalties / calls were reserved for Lions games!
Or how about this: The Ravens would’ve won if that genius Dumervil hadn’t committed that inexplicable face mask penalty and almost ripped Bortles’s head off.
The intelligence, or lack thereof, displayed week in and week out by some of these NFL players is just maddening.
The officiating this season is atrocious. This 100% affected the outcome of the game. If the Ravens were actually able to compete for a playoff spot this season, imagine the outrage.
Keep losing Ravens. I’d love to see you fire John and try and lure him to Detroit to be coaching just down the highway from his brother.
Unlike other blown calls, this is actually and easy fix. Negate the field goal. It happened at the end of the game with no time remaining.
morebrocato says:
Nov 16, 2015 6:08 PM
The replacement refs — remember them? They were berated here and everywhere else for calls way less impactful than this, with the obvious “calls to action” that followed.
And yet now, we’re apparently supposed to accept what we’ve got as if this is the best we can do– or better yet, maybe pay them more money just so we can be sure they’re the best!? I’d love a job where I can address poor performance by demanding a pay raise.
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Try applying to the VA. Apparently no oversight or accountability there.
cursindaily says:
Nov 16, 2015 5:28 PM
How about the fact that they also gave them 20 yards instead of 15 for the facemask penalty?
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Face mask happened near midfield and ball was spotted at the 35 after the penalty. What is the problem here?
I’m over the NFL and the poor officiating. Changing the channel.
I mentally add red clown noses to all the refs. It at least keeps things amusing.
When is the NFL going to admit the rulebook is getting ridiculously complex?
not that it matters because both teams suck and are just mailing it in every week
Could it be that the rules have become so complex and poorly worded that the officials cannot effectively do their job?
Watch the replay of any given play and you will see a missed call on alot of them. The game is too fast to catch them all. Get over it.
In this day and age that is truly unbelievable. I know a lot of people on here absolutely loathe the Ravens but they should’ve won the game. And I thought the reffing in the CFL was bad.
Too many teams means too many games means not enough good officials. Excess teams dilute talent everywhere, not just the players
after last week when the Jags played the jets, Bortles was constantly hit late, even when he was out of bounds with an official standing right there.
Robinson was mugged by revis, the same facing/hugging the receiver by a ravens player was correctly called PI.
Not to mention the officials taking a time out to give the jets a chance to decide if they wanted to challenge a play. Which they decided not to when replays showed no problem.
That game was the most biased I’ve ever seen.
So Mr Signora…..stuff it!
No one really gives a sh-t what the league says on Mondays!
Regarding the ball placement…
In the past, a personal foul penalty behind the line of scrimmage was marked off from the spot of the foul. There was a rule change that moved it up to the LOS. That’s the 5 yard difference.
They looked set to me… Another excuse for Ravens fans to blame the referees for every time they lose. It’s never THEIR fault, always the refs.
Ravens get a better draft pick now.
The more I see these errors and the leagues refusal to correct them, I realize that the NFL is fixed just like the WWE. It’s entertainment so it is league for the league to fix outcomes and the probably are.
Amazing how fast the Ratbirds always are to hit up New York and whine until the NFL has their back. Maybe if Flacco hadn’t turned it over four times in one quarter you wouldn’t have to go to the last second against the friggin’ Jags.
It’s karma. It’s the Football Gods reaching down to smite your entire season because you pulled that juvenile power play (along with Irsay, Grigson and the Colts) in order to take out Brady, and it failed spectacularly.
Win on the field. Not by whining to the officials.
They actually did the ravens a favor and now they will get a better draft pick, it’s that kind of year for them anyhow. Oh and the officials still are horrible, nothing new here. SMH
And will I be reimbursed a penny as a season ticket holder by NFL? I know if I screw a customers product up they surely do not want to pay full value!
jagtiger says:
Nov 16, 2015 7:03 PM
No one really gives a sh-t what the league says on Mondays!
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Lol. I don’t know why they even bother to say anything. It’s not like they can do anything about it.
I think the penalty was ineligible
Harbaugh should ask for a rule change
Wah
That’s two wins for the Jags that were handed to them this year.
Someone in Jax might keep their job but shouldnt.
I didn’t see the play but I got it now, the face mask was not incorrect, it is just that the play should not have been allowed to be run because of the Jags penalty and a 10 sec run off.
Just one more bizarro play in a season that should never have happened to the Ravens. All you can do now is laugh.
By the way, indeed, everything should be challenge-able; along with no limit if you get all your challenges correct.
The officiating has been sub-par all year for all teams (not just the Ravens). However, remembering the ineptness of the replacement officials during contract negations puts it back into perspective.
ummm..are they gonna start admitting every officiating error…it is gonna be a lonnng list
I usually enjoy the comments section, but not on Raven’s articles. Ravens fans mirror their team in that they whine, complain and finger point about everything after every single loss. The Ravens are classless and so are their fans.
haterade999 says:
Nov 16, 2015 5:44 PM
Patriots fans sure do know how to make everything about them, don’t they?
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Agreed. Pretty ridiculous. The only thing I see here is the NFL screwing up once again, and, quite possibly, the future of two teams have now totally changed. Draft order, possibility of coaches hired/fired, players deciding whether to stay there or not. Not to mention all the money lost/won. All because the refs couldn’t do something as simple as throw the flag because players weren’t set. That’s one of the easiest ones to see. Are they moving forward just before the ball is snapped? Yes? throw a flag!
We shouldn’t be calling “karma” or whatever stupidity. We should be calling out the NFL to get their crap together when it comes to referees. Having blatant mistakes like this happen every single week proves the current model isn’t bloody working.
stuartscottslefteye says:
Nov 16, 2015 7:56 PM
By the way, indeed, everything should be challenge-able; along with no limit if you get all your challenges correct.
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Good grief, that whining pansy Harbaugh would have everyone there until Tuesday afternoon, what with his lack of knowledge of the rules.
The Ravens owner and head coach are claiming they lost the game because the Patriots CHEATED and ran illegal plays to beat them while masquerading as the Jags.
Considering when in London the Jags got their last drive (where they scored the winning TD) extended by a phantom pass interference call, they are the luckiest team around.
Any crazy calls in the win over Dolphins to get the hat trick? Haha
Thank God for these UNION refs. The replacement rest would have almost certainly screwed this up. Oh wait…
that FG helped me hit a 4 team all underdog money line parlay (30-1 odds) I think it was a great call 🙂
the ravens had plenty of opportunities to put that game away, and they literally let them slip through their fingers.
sometimes calls go your way and sometimes they don’t, every team in the nfl has to deal with that. there’s no excuse for not finishing the game. the ravens didn’t finish the game yesterday and they got what they deserved, an L. on to the rams.
It is so unlike nfl refs to miss a call like that.
Won’t keep my Ravens out of the playoffs.
Will move them up 3-5 spots in the draft.
Still, officiating has turned into a complete cluster. I told my wife before the QB was tackled that it was an illegal formation and should be the end of the game. It’s like they don’t even watch the small stuff anymore, they just assume.
Serves the Ravens right. When 27 yards magically turns into 29, no Ravens were complaining then.
1oldpro says:
Nov 16, 2015 5:43 PM
So, with that penalty, the game should have ended because the play never actually should have happened. So the standings, the draft order and all kinds of stuff are changed because the league has no recourse but to admit their game is screwed up, again. League officials won’t do anything to award the win to the team who actually won. What a fine mess
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Even though correcting the mistake and awarding the win/loss appropriately would be best, there are two major reasons they don’t do it. 1) every call/non call would be scrutinized with an eye towards changing the result of the game. The last play should not be more important than any other. The only difference is that play, when called correctly ends the game with no chance for the teams to react. That leads to… 2) bets are paid when the games are over, not 2 days later. Changing the winner would have a major impact on betting and the league would never open themselves up to that scrutiny.
Jax still would have covered the +5.5 either way.
imamarinebiologist says:
Nov 16, 2015 7:18 PM
They looked set to me… Another excuse for Ravens fans to blame the referees for every time they lose. It’s never THEIR fault, always the refs.
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The NFL said they made a mistake. The NFL said they were not set, it’s not the Ravens. God help whatever sea creatures you care for.
Sick of these so-called errors by the officials. I know they are not perfect, but let’s be real. They have to fix these games and get the outcome Vegas needs. That’s part of what their jobs entails.
Patriots fans are probably the most annoying fans in all of sports. A story comes out that the NFL announces that the refs screw something up and somehow it is because Harbaugh is crying. Harbaugh hasn’t said anything to the NFL. Not sure if you are more annoying or stupid. Worst community in all of sports.
Karma to Ravens and Ravens fans
While they might want to say “read the rule book” to the officials, that would be ironic if Harbaugh uttered those words after taking such offense and then initiating FrameGate when Brady suggested that HE need to learn the rulebook
These are the sorts of things that officials miss when Goodell has them rabidly checking to make sure the Laws of Physics don’t strike again and deflate footballs
KARMA is B*tch…ain’t it HARBAUGH,,,any mystery why the two teams that acted like lil girls last year in the PLAYOFFS (COLTS/RAVENS),,are having such terrible years? Not to me….eat it!!!
I’m hoping Harbaugh comes out with one of his comments like “Nobody has ever seen this before” or “this has never happened before” so that the compliant media can ignore it and continue to call this buffoon a good coach.
Gee…You mean the NFL botched something? What else is new? What a joke of an organization.
rickypoo1969 srickypoo1969 says:
Nov 16, 2015 5:55 PM
This is just getting ridiculous! These mistakes should be available in this day and age. The NFL is becoming unwatchable. Penalty flags seem to fly on every single play on top of weekly blunders by referees who look like they stepped right out of a three stooges movie. The NFL has become a joke with the seemingly endless string of screw ups under the current commissioner watch. The ‘integrity of the sheld’ babble from NFL head quarters is a bunch of hogwash at this point. It’s more like the ‘integrity of the billion dollar revenue stream’ and the heck with everything else
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Please don’t insult the 3 Stooges by comparing them to the nfl refs!!
Oh no……………..here we go again. The Ravens have been aggrieved.
Cue the falsestartgate whining that will commence from Baltimore.
The bank is supposed to close at 3, but is still open at 3:01. Guy goes in and robs the bank.
John Harbaugh defends the robber saying he wouldn’t have robbed the bank if it closed at the right time.
fobsessed20 says:
Nov 16, 2015 10:57 PM
Patriots fans are probably the most annoying fans in all of sports. A story comes out that the NFL announces that the refs screw something up and somehow it is because Harbaugh is crying. Harbaugh hasn’t said anything to the NFL. Not sure if you are more annoying or stupid. Worst community in all of sports.
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The Baltimore Sun has Harbaugh talking to Blandino and also talking about the play. So, wrong.
One thing he doesn’t seem to address – why Dumervil tried to tear off Bortles head.
Odd thing is, in watching the replay, Harbaugh doesn’t seem to notice they weren’t set. They show him react to Dumervil’s stupidity. So, sure, the refs thought they were set, both teams seem to think they were set. It seems the only time no one thought they were set was after watching the relay after the game.
Then Harbaugh talks like he knew they weren’t set. Typical.
You know, you could have mentioned the ref’s name – Pete Morelli. He’s the same ref that changes momentum in games and decides them with bad penalties and non-calls. 2010 NFC Championship, 2015 divisional playoff game (DET @ DAL), and other numerous games in the regular season. Don’t be afraid to mention the ref’s name and even list his history. That’s called journalism.
If I had a dime for every time the NFL came out and said, “ops, our Refs messed up and it cost you a game” , I could own this league. And then I could fire these incompetent boobs they call Officials.
Oh no, the wrong crappy team from the AFC South now has a slim chance to make the playoffs!
fobsessed20 says:
Nov 16, 2015 10:57 PM
“Patriots fans are probably the most annoying fans in all of sports. A story comes out that the NFL announces that the refs screw something up and somehow it is because Harbaugh is crying. Harbaugh hasn’t said anything to the NFL. Not sure if you are more annoying or stupid. Worst community in all of sports.”
Envy!
i called this out live as the play was taking place, the linemen barely made it to the line before the snap and DEFINITELY were not set
honestly as a ravens fan, i’m happy we lost it’s about time we get a top 10 pick and a real chance at getting a blue chip day 1 starter instead of always having to take chances on prospects that might pan out
ozzie doesn’t miss in the first round
Most ravens fans admit this revelation doesn’t matter, they still deserved to lose.
And all this bitter NE and Philly fans whining about “karma” should just wait till they get theirs…ignoramuses.
I’m a Ravens fan and frankly we didn’t deserve to win.
Asa Jackson with 2 personal fouls. Joe Flacco turned the ball over 3 times. Bad play calling by the coaches. Muffed kicks. I could go on and on.
iamedreed says:
Nov 17, 2015 9:12 AM
“ozzie doesn’t miss in the first round”
Travis Taylor, Mark Clayton, Matt Elam, Breshad Perriman (TBD) and…..wait for it….Kyle Boller!
billsfan1
Try THINKING. Your answer ASSUMES that the “dead ball foul” would NOT have happened even if the play has been blown dead.
Not necessarily a safe assumption.
I’ve seen people come across the line after neutral zone infractions and whistles blowing and slam a QB down anyway.
I remember a Monday night football game where Lawrence Taylor did it.. slammed Tommy Kramer to the ground WELL after the play was blown dead.
As a Ravens fan, better to lose this game than one in a year that matters…
Joey Bosa here we come!
As most Coaches will say. You had other opportunities you didn’t capitalize on.
On the other hand….Did the replacement refs sneak back in without our knowledge? DANG
You know what the problem is are the replacement Refs!!!! They need to get the regular refs back as soon as they can because they are making a mockery of the game.
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How about a replacement rule book!
An epic battle between two titans.
The NFL product is so awful. Don’t know how much more I can take.
Mark Cuban was right.