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Pettine tired of Manziel incidents, won’t say he remains Browns’ starter

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The Browns returned to work Tuesday, which means reporters asked coach Mike Pettine about Johnny Manziel’s weekend away from the team.

This has happened before. And this time, Pettine’s answer was “disappointing. Very.”

Pettine said the organization is concerned about Manziel’s “repeated pattern of behavior” and will discuss the latest incident and that pattern later on Tuesday. Pettine said he didn’t want to make a “knee jerk” reaction but also said he can’t say now if Manziel will start at quarterback for the Browns next Monday vs. the Ravens.

The team named Manziel the starter for the rest of the season last week.

The website Busted Coverage first posted about Manziel’s night out in Austin, Tex., on Monday afternoon. Busted Coverage had pictures and videos it says were taken last Friday.

Manziel vowed last week not to be “an embarrassment or a distraction” for the Browns during his bye week.

Manziel spent almost three months in rehab for an undisclosed issue starting last January. Last month he was back in the news after police were called to a roadside argument between Manziel and his girlfriend; no charges were filed and the NFL also declined to discipline him.

Maybe Pettine and the Browns have had enough. Stay tuned.

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152 Responses to “Pettine tired of Manziel incidents, won’t say he remains Browns’ starter”
  1. jonwill57 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:24 PM

    Wow. Wow. Wow. Dallas will be looking for its future reclamation project. There are plenty to choose from…

  2. guitarkevin says: Nov 24, 2015 12:25 PM

    And I thought my Ravens were a hot mess.

  3. daysend564 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:25 PM

    Gronk does it and he’s just the lovable meathead
    Manziel does it and he should be cut immediately

  4. Brown Anchor says: Nov 24, 2015 12:26 PM

    So yeah he was partying. Did he get in trouble or do anything wrong??? What’s the big deal?

  5. rabidmike says: Nov 24, 2015 12:26 PM

    Wow

  6. gojags says: Nov 24, 2015 12:27 PM

    After all Merrill Hoge and his big tie is correct in his assessment on Manziel.

  7. 2since96 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:28 PM

    Has johnny even got in any real trouble? Like arrest or serious accusations? The browns are idiots, stop making something outta nothing and let the kid play.

  8. rjpats says: Nov 24, 2015 12:28 PM

    Man, if only there was any indication before the draft that Johnny Manziel didn’t take football seriously and liked to party.

  9. deftspyder says: Nov 24, 2015 12:28 PM

    I have rarely seen a more punchable face.

  10. strongisland87 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:28 PM

    So basically he is under house arrest and can’t go out at night, which I find ridiculous. Pettine is just looking for any excuse to get rid of him.

  11. mmack66 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:29 PM

    Good lord. When did the NFL turn into a bunch of pansies?

  12. gotitan says: Nov 24, 2015 12:30 PM

    Was he barred from drinking? I thought rehab was for more “substance” than a beer.

  13. htowntexan says: Nov 24, 2015 12:30 PM

    this coach is showing yet again he is an idiot.

  14. grammaticallyincorrect1201 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:30 PM

    daysend564 says:
    Nov 24, 2015 12:25 PM

    Gronk does it and he’s just the lovable meathead
    Manziel does it and he should be cut immediately
    ———————————————————

    Gronk does it in the offseason. And has never had to go to rehab. And is actually a good football player.

  15. Marsh1976 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:30 PM

    Reporters, the Eddie Haskells of the sports world.

  16. onereasonableman says: Nov 24, 2015 12:30 PM

    I’m a Browns fan living through another potential change of management. I’m tired of it. I’m also tired of Manziel showing a lack of commitment to the team.

    Regardless of what I think of Pettine as a coach, my respect level goes up 1000% for him if he tells Manziel to take a seat.

    I’m sure the folks at ESPN would love it too. That MNF is going to be a barnburner.

  17. Della Street says: Nov 24, 2015 12:31 PM

    deftspyder says:
    Nov 24, 2015 12:28 PM
    I have rarely seen a more punchable face.

    __________________

    Nailed it!

  18. RavenzGunnerz says: Nov 24, 2015 12:32 PM

    I am confused…

    Manziel was seen somewhere?

    Somebody please clarify this for me.

  19. romophobic says: Nov 24, 2015 12:32 PM

    daysend564 says:
    Nov 24, 2015 12:25 PM

    Gronk does it and he’s just the lovable meathead
    Manziel does it and he should be cut immediately
    ———————-

    Thumbs up a few million times. Gronk has even bragged about his behavior and his drinking but it’s OK because he plays for the Patriots and like you said, he is just a loveable Neanderthal.

  20. fsstnotch says: Nov 24, 2015 12:33 PM

    The guy literally cannot leave his house without someone complaining about his actions. Is this what the lives of the 100’s of other professional football players are reduced to? Do none of them ever go out on their week off? Good grief people, cut the kid some slack!

  21. Obe Wan Jabroni says: Nov 24, 2015 12:33 PM

    I don’t think Pettine will have to worry about Manziel, unless Pettine ends up getting hired by Manziel’s next team… Cuz lets face it, Pettine sucks

  22. thesmartest1 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:34 PM

    Josh Gordon feels better now. He’s not the only one that they’re practicing killing a fly with a sledgehammer.

  23. RavenzGunnerz says: Nov 24, 2015 12:34 PM

    Seriously though… Cleveland is a jail. You can even see that LeBron is not having fun at all. Release Johnny!

  24. barsfordays says: Nov 24, 2015 12:34 PM

    If you’re not gonna play him, cut him. This kid deserves a chance. What he does during his bye week on his own free time is irrelevant. 375 yards passing and what shouldve been a rush TD, overall awareness in the pocket in his last game proved he should at least get an opportunity to start, despite the fact his replacement level recievers made a multitude of mistakes. Let the kid live.

  25. motsuret06 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:36 PM

    Cut him and move on. Wasted draft pick on a real piece of work.

  26. djbleedthestar says: Nov 24, 2015 12:37 PM

    You guys fail to realize that this is a total relapse that’s why they’re concerned. Relapse is worse than the addiction first. Yall don’t seem to care tho just let him have fun and screw up his life slowly. He doesn’t have accountability anymore

  27. boisedawg says: Nov 24, 2015 12:39 PM

    I do not care if he is drinking at a party, the young man should be the starter. Pet hates him and has resisted starting him from day one.

  28. adelphos33 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:40 PM

    If Manziel was in rehab for alcoholism (which was claimed as the reason), then any pictures of him drinking are grounds for termination. I guess “rehab” can be for anything now (including “selfishness” or “being a bad teammate or family member”, so maybe he never admitted to alcoholism.

  29. dryzzt23 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:40 PM

    The media……keeps doing everything it can to vilify Manziel and use him to their own benefit (aka profit).

  30. weepingjebus says: Nov 24, 2015 12:41 PM

    Good thing the NFL ran all those Manziel promos last night about next week’s MNF game. They should have just stuck with the usual Browns media kit, a slow mo shot of discarded fast food wrappers in the rain.

  31. notsoniceguyeddie says: Nov 24, 2015 12:42 PM

    So there weren’t any arrests or reports of Manziel being an idiot, just pictures of him in a club…on his teams bye week? I fail to see the problem other than Cleveland looking for reasons to get rid of the guy because they never should have drafted him to start. #StayClassyCleveland.

  32. jcf78 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:42 PM

    He hasn’t gotten into trouble so it shouldn’t be this much of an issue really!

    The fact it’s Johnny manziel doesn’t help him! And it doesn’t help him that of all starting QB’s go, during the NFL season you don’t really hear about the QB going partying!

    Off season totally different story, during season game face bro! You get paid to be the face of the franchise as the QB

  33. dansardo says: Nov 24, 2015 12:43 PM

    Just a thought for the dunce that tried to compare Gronk’s off the field behavior with “johnny dreadful”:

    Consider checking out a game that gronk and the pats play in and what happens.

    I could go on and on and explain how bad dreadful’s behavior is for the team (you know, like he is the QB, the guy that is supposed to set the tone for the team as the leader not a tight end) but it would clearly be lost on you. The fact that what he is doing may be (and probably is) completely legal is so far beyond the point of how bad his behavior is for the team that its laughable. If you have one brain cell you get it without ti having to be explained to you.

    Bad teams and organizations are not born to be that way, they are built that way.

  34. margoadams says: Nov 24, 2015 12:43 PM

    Justin Bieber of football. Fake singer fake QB

  35. Big Ant TV says: Nov 24, 2015 12:44 PM

    I didn’t want him when he was drafted still don’t want him Bridgewater and Carr < manziel
    Fire pettine and farmer asaw in or lose vs the ravens

  36. docsweeney says: Nov 24, 2015 12:44 PM

    Don’t you check into rehab you NOT ever drink again? I’m just trying to figure this out.

  37. ebdug says: Nov 24, 2015 12:45 PM

    In related news, Weeb Ewbank has decided to bench Joe Namath because he was caught drinking Tequila Sunrises poolside and Joe reportedly flew off the handle, guaranteeing the Jets would beat the Colts. Babe Parelli will start in Super Bowl III.

  38. jerryyouradisgrace says: Nov 24, 2015 12:45 PM

    This guy is right in Jerry’s cross hairs

  39. toddsuperbowles says: Nov 24, 2015 12:48 PM

    Mike Pettine is a clown, period. He was the source of media leaks while with the Jets and made his bones running Rex Ryan’s defense. The Browns were dead last at stopping the run last season and still can’t stop the run, even with big Dan Shelton. I’m sorry but that’s on the coaching. Like one Browns fan on here said before, Mike Pettine is a high school gym teacher at best. Cleveland is a good football town and the fans deserve better than this joker running the Browns.

  40. seahawks80 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:48 PM

    What an immature jackass

  41. aggiegirl00 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:49 PM

    2 words Johnny, HOUSE PARTY! Problem solved.

  42. garyeyee says: Nov 24, 2015 12:49 PM

    He looks like that guy on that commercial..LG phone?….dum….dum…dum is the jingle , something like that….

  43. coltzfan166 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:51 PM

    Seriously, who cares? We make a story out of it every time Johnny wants to have a drink

  44. audient says: Nov 24, 2015 12:51 PM

    Browns fan here. Tired of it, too.

    So. Austin Davis?

  45. dpdonny says: Nov 24, 2015 12:51 PM

    Gronk does it and he’s just the lovable meathead
    Manziel does it and he should be cut immediately

    Yeah, OK. Gronk’s is done off-season. Also, he is not the starting QB — you know — the one who needs to spend hours looking at film so he can properly diagnose defenses. Perhaps you route for a turd team with no QB, so it’s not big deal to you.

    Johnny-Outta-Football-2016

  46. immafubared says: Nov 24, 2015 12:52 PM

    There is no law he violated and he wasn’t in jail or trouble. However, his problem is maturity. The guy who took the video and released it, is NOT YOUR FRIEND Johhny boy.

    When you need three months of rehad, time you should have been learning the system and getting prepared to play, you let the team down, the fans down, your family down.

    None of those people are cheering for you Johnny boy.

  47. ninerfan81 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:52 PM

    this dude is like 23…why are people concerned with what he does during his off days…some of the best of our time were known to socialize quite a bit…he’s a victim of his own party boy popularity I guess but I don’t fault any recent college grad with a really good job for having a great time

  48. mkreef says: Nov 24, 2015 12:53 PM

    Does Gronk party during the season? Serious question. I can’t recall seeing anything publicized last year or this year while it’s football season (while not on IR).

  49. mancave001 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:55 PM

    Looking at the video, I’m really not sure what he did wrong.

  50. daysend564 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:55 PM

    dansardo says:
    Nov 24, 2015 12:43 PM
    Just a thought for the dunce that tried to compare Gronk’s off the field behavior with “johnny dreadful”:

    Consider checking out a game that gronk and the pats play in and what happens.
    ——————————
    Gronk looked like he had a hangover last night, with his 37 yards and tons of missed opportunities.

  51. daysend564 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:55 PM

    mkreef says:
    Nov 24, 2015 12:53 PM
    Does Gronk party during the season? Serious question. I can’t recall seeing anything publicized last year or this year while it’s football season (while not on IR).
    ——————-
    He did right before their Superbowl

  52. psubeerman21 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:55 PM

    The big deal is he promised not to do this anymore. Which I am assuming that promise had something to do with him being named starter

  53. xbox4wwe says: Nov 24, 2015 12:56 PM

    The future Dallas Cowboy or Houston Texan QB right there.

  54. ReligionIsForIdiots says: Nov 24, 2015 12:58 PM

    He was caught in a night club sober(he doesn’t look even remotely drunk in any of the videos or photos of him that night) singing a song. Cut him now!!!!

  55. artworkworld says: Nov 24, 2015 12:58 PM

    daysend564 says:
    Nov 24, 2015 12:25 PM
    Gronk does it and he’s just the lovable meathead
    Manziel does it and he should be cut immediately

    That’s a good question. I think that there are three answers: 1st, outside of Jim McMahon, quarterbacks are expected to be leaders & not meatheads. This probably isn’t fair since Ken Stabler & Joe Namath were party animals & good quarterbacks, but it is still the perception. 2nd, The party Gronk stories are generally off-season stories. He is really focused during the season. There aren’t any stories about him being late to practice or being hungover when he needs to play football. Reason 3 is the biggest reason. Gronkowski is performing at a Hall of Fame level. If Manziel ever starts playing anywhere as well as Gronk, he will be able to get away with a lot more.

  56. clickablecontent says: Nov 24, 2015 12:58 PM

    Am I missing something? I don’t see what’s so bad about these photos.

  57. smithdp says: Nov 24, 2015 12:58 PM

    On the Gronk vs Manziel discrepancy commented on above. Gronk plays consistently at an all pro level and wins Super Bowl Championships. “When you win 20 in the show, you can have fungus on your shoes and people will think you’re colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, it just means you’re a slob”.

  58. rootpain says: Nov 24, 2015 1:00 PM

    The team is fully justified to control his actions during the active season. He is paid millions to perform. He has shown repeatedly that he is too immature to maintain the required discipline. He was the one that stated that he was going good to rest up for the game. Maybe some might consider what he is doing as letting off steam or whatever. But it not up to the Browns to give him enough leash to hang himself by allowing him to prove this has no negative impact on his ability. They have too much invested. Fire him now.

  59. PokeSalad says: Nov 24, 2015 1:00 PM

    No arrest, no care.

    Let the kids play!

  60. oneofhis says: Nov 24, 2015 1:01 PM

    And with the first pick of the 2016 NFL draft, the Browns pick..(quarterback of your choice).

  61. Rdog says: Nov 24, 2015 1:02 PM

    It’s funny how some people are implying that Gronk should be scrutinized as well, but some people are saying that what Manziel is doing is no big deal because he’s “just having fun” or something like that. …Something’s gotta give.

    Johnny Manziel is the first-round draft pick, the starting QB trying to prove that he has what it takes to handle the NFL, and here he is partying on the bye week… Gronk has already proven himself, and seemingly only parties during the offseason. Besides, do you think Belichick would be one to put up with someone doing that during the season?

    Johnny Manziel needs to grow up and show that he can act like an adult, or at least when he has a job to do.

  62. watchfullhose says: Nov 24, 2015 1:04 PM

    As a Browns fan, I’m tired of Pettine getting out coached. I won’t say if I’ll be attending any more games this year or renewing my season tickets next year (ah, forget it, I won’t).

  63. crownofthehelmet says: Nov 24, 2015 1:04 PM

    After watching the video, what stuck out to me more than anything else is that Johnny was so accessible to a bunch of drunks that any schmoe could come up and take a selfie with him. He wasn’t in the slightest bit guarded. “Hey, come take a drunk selfie with me and post it anywhere you want. Hell, send it to Pettine, I don’t care.”

    Is there anything wrong with that? Maybe not. But at the very least it’s an immature approach to take to your nfl career.

  64. dansardo says: Nov 24, 2015 1:05 PM

    Gronk looked like he had a hangover last night, with his 37 yards and tons of missed opportunities.

    ———————————————————————
    Comparing Gronk not having a great game statistically because he was being double and triple team to johnny “party hearty” is so obvious I don’t know why I didn’t get it the first time. Thanks for helping me out.

    Of course “johnny be pretty bad” has also been voted first team all pro by the guys that vote for who gets in to the HOF
    every year of his career, so there is that……….

    Like I said, dunce.

  65. rob471773 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:05 PM

    daysend564 says:

    Nov 24, 2015 12:25 PM

    Gronk does it and he’s just the lovable meathead
    Manziel does it and he should be cut immediately
    ———————–
    Yes, Gronk likes to party, but there’s a time and place for everything. Gronk is also one of the hardest working guys on the Patriots and is always dedicated to keeping himself in peak physical condition. Yeah, he lets loose in the off-season, big difference that going crazy on your bye week.

    Gronk also isn’t coming off a failed rehab stint and doesn’t miss team activities because he’s hung over.

  66. musicfootballprogramming says: Nov 24, 2015 1:06 PM

    I don’t like today’s “news” cycle where you come across a story that assumes you already know what you missed by not checking the internet for a few hours.

    Not saying Manziel is a stand up guy, but without more context it’s hard to say what, exactly, the big deal is here. “Latest incident” … he partied?

    Roethlisberger is all, “That’s cute.”

  67. kerzondax says: Nov 24, 2015 1:06 PM

    barsfordays says:
    Nov 24, 2015 12:34 PM
    If you’re not gonna play him, cut him. This kid deserves a chance.

    ==============================

    Nobody “deserves” anything.

  68. abninf says: Nov 24, 2015 1:06 PM

    Jerry needs a QB for the future and he still wants Manziel I’m sure. He’ll trade his 1st rounder to the Browns for him, mark my words.

  69. paul1990 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:07 PM

    Sorry, but anyone making excuses for Manziel is an idiot. He’s shown no commitment to this team. His pattern behavior is a sign of a guy who doesn’t get it. Compare him to Gronk? Really? It’s not even a close comparison. Manziel was given criteria to work toward to earn a spot on the team and he pissed all over it. Cut him….don’t let him play another down in this league. He clearly doesn’t care. Sorry, but super pissed at anyone defending this tool.

  70. Obe Wan Jabroni says: Nov 24, 2015 1:08 PM

    daysend564 says: Nov 24, 2015 12:55 PM

    mkreef says:
    Nov 24, 2015 12:53 PM
    Does Gronk party during the season? Serious question. I can’t recall seeing anything publicized last year or this year while it’s football season (while not on IR).
    ——————-
    He did right before their Superbowl

    ==========================

    You misspelled “after”. Gronk was partying after they lost to the Giants (the year his ankle was messed up), and there was a huge to do about it. But it wasn’t before the Super Bowl

  71. Kingmj4891 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:09 PM

    Pettine should be fired?

  72. reprob8 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:09 PM

    Mr. Manziel contcontinues to demonstrate that he’s not “face of the franchise” kind of player or person. Apparently, he doesn’t understand that there’s a different standard for QBs, particularly during the season.

    He may become an adequate back-up, but it’s time for the Browns to get a *real* front office & find a REAL (efficient & responsible) QB

  73. romophobic says: Nov 24, 2015 1:10 PM

    I love the excuses everyone makes for Gronk. He wins!! Big deal. He’s a turd. And how do you know he wasn’t out drinking and dancing around with his shirt off at some club during his bye week? Further, everyone went after LeSean McCoy for his girls only party during the off season but when Gronk holds a girls only, 21 and over, drunk football camp, it’s funny. There is a serious and blatant double standard for Gronk and simply being good isn’t an excuse.

  74. dawgpound4ever says: Nov 24, 2015 1:12 PM

    Manziel went to rehab and has yet to confirm for what (drinking or drugs). His partying was well-documented what at Texas A&M. Everyone knew what they were getting with this kid.

    From his first season to the second, everyone is gushing about how much more committed Manziel is in his preparation, studying and focus on his craft.

    When he shows up to the team meetings drunk, hungover or otherwise unable to perform due to substance abuse then talk about benching him.

  75. liquidzoo says: Nov 24, 2015 1:13 PM

    Reminds me more of Matt Leinart…someone who was more interested in partying like a starting quarterback in the NFL than actually BEING a starting quarterback in the NFL…

  76. tonybot3 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:15 PM

    Manziel has substance abuse problems, and the whisper is that league already placed a strike against him.

    Defending the guy is not doing him any favors. He’s been given a pass his whole career.

    If you think the Browns are dumb for holding him back, then its real simple. Have your team make a trade for Manziel. Done.

  77. cburmester85 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:15 PM

    I’m a Cowboys fan… With that said I fully expect this guy to be on our team next year.

  78. Fake French Accent says: Nov 24, 2015 1:16 PM

    I CANT WAIT FOR JOHNNY MANZIELS 30 FOR 30.

    Sorry for the all caps, I’m just really excited.

  79. Della Street says: Nov 24, 2015 1:17 PM

    daysend564 says:
    Nov 24, 2015 12:55 PM
    mkreef says:
    Nov 24, 2015 12:53 PM
    Does Gronk party during the season? Serious question. I can’t recall seeing anything publicized last year or this year while it’s football season (while not on IR).
    ——————-
    He did right before their Superbowl

    ______________________

    Nope. That was AFTER the SB.

  80. dansardo says: Nov 24, 2015 1:18 PM

    “There is a serious and blatant double standard for Gronk and SIMPLY BEING GOOD ISN’T AN EXCUSE.”

    Even if the rest of the post were true (and most of it isn’t) if you wanted to make a point that someone is completely clueless,

    that would about do it for most of us.

  81. bobnyjets says: Nov 24, 2015 1:18 PM

    I don’t know who is dumber, Johnnie for constantly punting his chances at fame and fortune or the idiots posting on this page who see nothing wrong here.

    The is no such thing as an ex-substance (pick your substance of choice) abuser. There is an addict who is using or one who isn’t using today. And it is a daily battle.

    I never thought Johnnie had NFL talent but he has been given multiple chances to prove me wrong.

    And he hasn’t.

    But more importantly he has the resources available to him to straighten up and fly right.

    And he hasn’t.

    Jerry Granville famously said that NFL stands for “Not for long”. Unless he gets it through his thick head NOW his “long” is going to be shorter than most.

    A chance to play in the NFL is a gift not a right and you earn that gift everyday by what you do.

    You lose it exactly the same way.

  82. philyeagles5 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:20 PM

    daysend564 says:
    Nov 24, 2015 12:25 PM

    Gronk does it and he’s just the lovable meathead
    Manziel does it and he should be cut immediately
    ======
    Gronk is also a future HOF.

  83. johnnybuc44 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:21 PM

    I’d party too with that much money. You can’t take it with you…

  84. Bull Rush says: Nov 24, 2015 1:23 PM

    Manziel doesn’t get it. He’s supposed to be a team leader, lead by example, not to mention as the starting QB he’s a face of the franchise and a role model to young fans. Grow up kid.

  85. pancaketaco says: Nov 24, 2015 1:24 PM

    Pettine is way over his head. I’m still a firm believer that it isn’t J. Footballs fault that he was picked 3 or 4 rounds too early. Lastly, my money is on rehab was to get the media off his A$%.

  86. codythao35 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:26 PM

    Same person same old thing.

  87. steveylang says: Nov 24, 2015 1:26 PM

    Nothing in the video was particularly embarrassing, although I guess the appropriate response would also depend on what ‘ground rules’ Johnny may have agreed to with the org. We don’t know what these may or may not be.

    I don’t feel like going to a club is necessarily unbecoming of an NFL quarterback. But I don’t know if he was truly an alcoholic who was drinking uncontrollably every day, or just needed to tone down the hard partying. Either way it looks like his career will probably end up playing out somewhere else. Somebody might give a late round draft pick to take a flier on him.

  88. jerruhjones says: Nov 24, 2015 1:26 PM

    Disappointing? 2-8 is disappointing ‘coach’. I use that term loosely.

  89. hickmanii says: Nov 24, 2015 1:27 PM

    Manziel….. your too childish to be an nfl player. ANYWHERE. Your earning yourself a one way ride out of cleveland.

  90. sf546 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:28 PM

    mmack66 says:
    Nov 24, 2015 12:29 PM
    Good lord. When did the NFL turn into a bunch of pansies?

    About the same time as all these web sites aopeared that constantly criticize every action a player, coach or owner makes.

  91. sbdt says: Nov 24, 2015 1:29 PM

    To AA folk, Gronk is what you call a “hard drinker,” one who likes to party but can take it or leave it when push comes to shove. Never heard of Gronk missing playing time or jeopardizing his team’s chance of winning due to off field antics. Manziel, on the other hand, is what you call an alcoholic. He can’t stop drinking once he starts & he can’t give it up for any significant period of time.

    It’s only gonna get worse.

  92. Silver and Black attack says: Nov 24, 2015 1:33 PM

    “The big deal is he promised not to do this anymore. Which I am assuming that promise had something to do with him being named starter”

    BINGO,,

  93. dreadnok89 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:34 PM

    why cant this dude have a fun time?

  94. paul1990 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:36 PM

    If I’m a team that invested a lot of money on a guy who doesn’t get it, I’m going to judge him pretty quickly. It’s easy for those to defend him when they don’t have money invested into him. Dump his ass.

  95. heymister24 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:37 PM

    Why weren’t the photos of Manziel eating a baloney sandwich posted?

  96. md228010 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:37 PM

    oh Johnny boy. Win your next game. All is good if you’re winning.

  97. jpiro says: Nov 24, 2015 1:43 PM

    How do people not see the difference between when typical players go out and party and when one with an acknowledged substance abuse problem goes out and parties?

    It’s like watching some dude buy a kid an ice cream cone, or watching Jared from Subway buy a kid an ice cream cone.

    Not. The. Same.

  98. sudz28 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:43 PM

    “The media……keeps doing everything it can to vilify Manziel and use him to their own benefit (aka profit).”

    …and Johnny keeps doing everything he can to give them ammunition. What’s that saying? When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is STOP DIGGING. It doesn’t matter if he did anything illegal or was busted by the cops or involved in an altercation. He has a rep for making poor choice that reflect poorly on his team and give the perception that he’s more concerned about having an active social life than getting ready for the next opponent. The media didn’t do that to him, he did it to himself. Sorry, he no longer gets the benefit of the doubt that some players might. And if he finds himself working as a used car salesman three years from now wondering about what could have been, he’ll only have himself to blame.

  99. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Nov 24, 2015 1:44 PM

    Is that Johnny Manziel or Barry Goldberg?

  100. ppc50 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:49 PM

    Dallas needs to get him for cheap. If he’s cut, sign him, trade deadline is over, but trade a low draft pick for him. Let him sit behind Romo for 2 years, then let him play. I would love to see him in Dallas.

  101. bradygirl12 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:49 PM

    Gronk doesn’t do his partying during the season. When has Gronk ever had the cops involved in any of his good times? He’s never been photographed with a rolled up bill in his hand,like he’s about to do a line. He’s never smacked a girl’s head against a car window or been stopped by the cops. I don’t believe he’s been pulled over,or missed meetings or practices because he’s hung over. He’s never had to go to rehab either. Can “Johnny Football” say the same things?

  102. usedjock says: Nov 24, 2015 1:50 PM

    #1 Manziel is a recovering addict which is why one spends 3+ months in rehab. Anyone that knows addicts or has been one knows that putting yourself back in party situations is NOT smart

    #2 he told the team he would behave and yet he does this?

    I don’t blame the team for being sick and tired of the incidents. I bet they know 100 times as much stuff as we do about what he is up to. I say stop enabling the guy and give him some consequences.

  103. dansardo says: Nov 24, 2015 1:55 PM

    “I would love to see him in Dallas.”

    You have no idea how many people feel the same way.

  104. usedjock says: Nov 24, 2015 1:56 PM

    thegenoatkinsdiet says:
    Nov 24, 2015 1:44 PM

    Is that Johnny Manziel or Barry Goldberg?

    I still think he looks like Banjoboy from Deliverance

  105. keylimelight says: Nov 24, 2015 1:56 PM

    Could it be that at this point, Manziel has had enough of the Browns’ Way? Perhaps he’s setting himself up to be traded.

    …Is Jerry Jones whispering in his ear?

  106. harrisonhits2 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:56 PM

    “Gronk does it and he’s just the lovable meathead
    Manziel does it and he should be cut immediately”

    1. You don’t see Gronk doing this during the season.

    2. Gronk is the best player in the world at his position. That success gives him more leeway than Johnny clipboard has. Little Johnny have proved almost nothing about his ability to succeed in the NFL at this point.

  107. nightryder10 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:57 PM

    He’ll start this weekend, suck, head back to the bench for the rest of the season, get cut, spend all off-season partying, then sign with the Cowboys.

  108. craigkintexas says: Nov 24, 2015 1:57 PM

    You can tell an alcoholic, but you can’t tell them much. He’ll find his bottom and I hope he doesn’t hurt too many people on his way. It can be pretty bad!

  109. bradygirl12 says: Nov 24, 2015 1:58 PM

    It’s sad that he’s an addict with all the talent he has. He’s pretty young. It’s going to take more than one stint in rehab to get this kid sober,if ever. Sounds like a perfect fit for the Cowboys,post-Romo. Jerry loves the bad boys.

  110. dwarftosser says: Nov 24, 2015 1:59 PM

    He was having some fun. Who cares?

  111. metalman5150 says: Nov 24, 2015 2:05 PM

    All penalties should be reviewable.

  112. corporatemediaprostitute says: Nov 24, 2015 2:06 PM

    Browns ownership is very disappointed in Mike Pettine. Not sure if he will coach the rest of the season.

  113. snaponrules says: Nov 24, 2015 2:06 PM

    After reading this i am far less upset with johnny then i am the league. He just went out and had a few drinks. What is the leagues excuse for putting any browns game in prime time. They are horrible, they have always been horrible and they will always be horrible. Why would you put them on tv without the choice ofvturning to another (better) game. Unless you feel that giving us browns football or no football we would watch them.

    You are wrong !!!!

  114. granadafan says: Nov 24, 2015 2:07 PM

    Did you all forget that Manziel went to rehab and suddenly everyone was very sympathetic to him and rooting for him to succeed? Now some of you don’t think it’s a big deal that he’s going out partying. Going to parties where alcohol is NOT conducive to staying on the wagon.

  115. accipiterq says: Nov 24, 2015 2:08 PM

    NO ONE here or anywhere else knows why he was in rehab. It COULD be for liquor, drugs, mental health, anxiety, who knows. There’s no reason a guy on his bye week can’t go out and enjoy himself. Seriously what is wrong with some of the people commenting here. He’s doing what 99% of people his age would be doing.

  116. ravens26 says: Nov 24, 2015 2:09 PM

    So, the KID goes out and parties. Does not break any laws…other than maybe his singing… does not get thrown out fo the club, no fights with women, no drunk driving and NO ARREST…then goes home.

    And we are discussing this why? Just sayin.

  117. toldlikeitis says: Nov 24, 2015 2:13 PM

    What laws did he break? What women did he beat? What drugs did he take?

    Hes been fine on the field and his personal “incidents” did not involve a visit to jail or any type of legal trouble yet the tmz sports Media and the holier than thou NFL fans act like he has killed someone.

  118. chazthespaz says: Nov 24, 2015 2:22 PM

    You fan boys have way too much time on your hands if this idiot fascinates you and you devote so much time and thought to him.

  119. thetooloftools says: Nov 24, 2015 2:22 PM

    If played for the Browns, I would drink heavily too !

  120. ilovefoolsball says: Nov 24, 2015 2:23 PM

    daysend564 says:
    Nov 24, 2015 12:25 PM
    Gronk does it and he’s just the lovable meathead
    Manziel does it and he should be cut immediately
    _____
    Gronk is a Tight End, Manziel is a QB and face of the franchise.

  121. draculalambert says: Nov 24, 2015 2:24 PM

    So what. He’s blowing off a little steam. He’s a kid. Plus it’s almost turkey day. Lighten up america big deal he had a few drinks

  122. mogogo1 says: Nov 24, 2015 2:26 PM

    You can do all kinds of stuff to jeopardize your employment without breaking any laws. He’s been in rehab recently, had an incident with his girlfriend where the cops had to be called just a few weeks ago, and now he’s hamming it up for the cameras with a bunch of booze? He’s at best clueless and at worst on the verge of some major trouble.

  123. Cavs2016NBAWorldChampions says: Nov 24, 2015 2:30 PM

    You know what Im sick of Mike Pettine watching your horrible defense and your horrible draft picks from you and Farmer.

    You know what Im sick of Mike Pettine, your sorry group of players constantly racking up penalties. Thats your job to have your players disciplined and not do stupid things ON THE FIELD! You suck at your job at least Johnny is competent on the field.

    You know what Im sick of Mike Pettine watching bad football from your sorry joke of a football team. Great pick of Justin Gilbert too Mike. You know the shutdown corner you needed to run your garbage defense.

  124. fatsolio says: Nov 24, 2015 2:42 PM

    haha, that guy is such a pathetic clown and if he wasn’t a decent college football player then he’d be working at Walmart right now.

    Do people like him think they’re big badasses and cool by drinking and partying? If evolution is true then humans sure haven’t evolved much if they think that is something to be proud of.

  125. msstiller58 says: Nov 24, 2015 2:43 PM

    I have friends who have been to rehab, it’s something the patient has to take seriously. Usually they go when they’ve hit bottom (jail). Johnny hasn’t taken any of this seriously. His family is so wealthy he just doesn’t get it, he’s been protected, you might say. I doubt he will make it in the NFL and I think most college and NFL fans have always been aware of that. Jmho

  126. curmudgeon13 says: Nov 24, 2015 2:46 PM

    Dumb move by Manziel during his bye week. He should’ve taken his girlfriend to the beaches of Puerto Vallarta and Instagramed the entire experience….

  127. wallabear says: Nov 24, 2015 2:49 PM

    The kid is just 22 years-old until next week, so whaddaya expect? Once the kid gets married, the “wifey” will then have a say about his snickerdoodle partying ways.

  128. mack2x says: Nov 24, 2015 2:54 PM

    “2 words Johnny, HOUSE PARTY! Problem solved.”

    Not really, there will always be some idiot with a cell phone.

  129. godfatherd says: Nov 24, 2015 3:00 PM

    Am I missing something? Where is the incident? He went to a bar on his week off from work, he doesn’t look excessively intoxicated in any of those pics or vids, no fights from what I can tell, no sexual assault claims. I don’t really see what the issue is, I think Pettine is just looking for a reason to bench him and thats cool because Pettine is out of a job after the season anyway.

  130. burningrangers says: Nov 24, 2015 3:03 PM

    There’s times to have fun and times to be serious. Partying it up on your bye week after being in rehab earlier this year and having an incident with your girlfriend where the police needed to be called is not where you should be. Especially after making public promises to shape up.

    The guy is making millions to play a game, something very precious few people ever get an opportunity to do so. Even if nothing “illegal” happened, he’s still putting himself in situations where something could very easily go wrong and blow up into something a lot worse which just goes to continue how poor of judgment he has.

    As much as it sucks for people in the spot light, he’s a celebrity in a lot of ways and in the public view. There’s just certain ways you should be conducting yourself, especially during the season, that the guy just clearly doesn’t get.

  131. monarch76 says: Nov 24, 2015 3:03 PM

    Pettine you are fired! Get a clue.

  132. clevelandsportsfan says: Nov 24, 2015 3:06 PM

    Pettine should take Johnny out for a beer, maybe smack a few girls around. There both bums, let McCowan drive them home. If there ever was a reset button that could be pushed, now is the time. This is past the point of ridiculous. Barnum & Browns Circus.

  133. charliecharger says: Nov 24, 2015 3:15 PM

    What’s the problem? NFL players don’t have to stay inside on their day off. These are kids. I’ve seen plenty of NFL stars partying and going out to bars. Pro bowlers and HOFers too. This isn’t Iran, or Provo. Drinking is legal in Austin.

  134. oldcracker says: Nov 24, 2015 3:24 PM

    I’m tired of Pettine’s ineptness!

    Bush league “wanna be.” Him and his high school buddies ought to just go back to Pennsylvania and try some more “Madden.”

    Many pro-bowlers and a number of high draft picks, and Pettine has no clue how to use them or coach them up. The team looks worse and worse each week.

    G*dd*mn Banner & Dumbardi brought this idiot in and left him as a time bomb for us.

  135. cjmullysr says: Nov 24, 2015 3:26 PM

    Winning gives you a lot of leeway to do things. He hasn’t won. Plus, going to rehab changes everything, it puts him on a different level with those who just party. What other legit QB in the league would be caught in the situations he has found himself in? You know the answer…NONE.

  136. chazthespaz says: Nov 24, 2015 3:27 PM

    Has Gronk ever committed domestic violence while drinking?

    Has Gronk ever endangerd the safety of other motorists while drinking?

    Get your facts together my little fanboys.

  137. loumann says: Nov 24, 2015 3:34 PM

    It’s over Johnny!

  138. helldog33 says: Nov 24, 2015 3:43 PM

    Pettine should be thrilled he has a spaz drunk QB to turn the spotlight away from his crappy coaching skills.

  139. fecalstains says: Nov 24, 2015 3:44 PM

    Gronk – Parties after big wins and mostly during the off-season. Takes pregame planning seriously. And is legitimately a great player on the field.

    Manziel – constantly shows his immaturity. Constantly in questionable situations (wild parties, fights, arguments with females). And most importantly, he is not very good on the field. At his best he has seemed like a mediocre QB.

    Maybe if some of that time partying was put aside to plan and prepare for his next match-up he wouldn’t be terrible.

    All these Browns fans making excuses for Manziel need to come back to reality, Manziel will not be the savior of the Browns

  140. cowboysallday says: Nov 24, 2015 3:48 PM

    Whaaaaat a 22 year old was partying? Ask me if I’m shocked

  141. bradygirl12 says: Nov 24, 2015 3:50 PM

    Johnny + booze = disaster. He just doesn’t get it.

  142. bengalskuta82 says: Nov 24, 2015 3:52 PM

    Mike Petitine is probably regretting taking this Head Coaching job. He should have seen the signs when Josh McDaniels and Chip Kelly turned it down; not to mention (2014)OC Kyle Shanahan just walking out.
    That franchise is so freaking dysfunctional to the max.
    Those fans deserve a winner

  143. granadafan says: Nov 24, 2015 3:54 PM

    Gronk did get a lot of grief for lifting those porn actresses up with that broken arm and partying after the loss in the Super Bowl. However, Gronk produces on the field. Manziel has a bad reputation of partying instead of studying film and his performances haven’t given him a pass for his partying and acting like a d-bag. Plus he went to rehab.

    Some of you have VERY short memories.

  144. tatatoothy68 says: Nov 24, 2015 3:57 PM

    Did he get arrested? Was there illegal acts or drugs there? Did he violate any NFL rules? So what if he parties. Im unsure what this guy is guilty of. As long as he’s ready to go come Monday who cares what he does on his off time. Pettine is an idiot and will soon be unemployed anywhere.

  145. bengalcrazy says: Nov 24, 2015 4:00 PM

    And pettine is an embarrassment to the Browns, Posing as a coach.

  146. metalman5150 says: Nov 24, 2015 4:19 PM

    Call them the BrownSkins and see if they like it.

  147. zeke2517 says: Nov 24, 2015 5:00 PM

    What exactly is the problem here?

  148. a1b24312 says: Nov 24, 2015 5:10 PM

    Pettine is right though he will be gone at the end of the season. Likely back to high school, where he is best suited.

  149. harleyeaglenumber1 says: Nov 24, 2015 6:38 PM

    Person who said Gronk does it. Gronk is a good player. Gronk doesn’t have a fight with a girl. Gronk doesn’t act like an idiot.

  150. 1trojan33usc says: Nov 24, 2015 10:13 PM

    I guess in this era, Joe Namath would have had to become a MONK in order to play for the Jets. The dude partied every night and was famous for having hangovers before games. Regardless, if Johnny knew he had to keep a low profile then “why” let yourself get filmed “Anywhere” drinking a beer or champagne. Not very bright for a qb…………………..

  151. luccabrazzi says: Nov 24, 2015 11:00 PM

    This just process another example of why the browns are stock in the world of futility. What a terrible franchise

  152. youstontx says: Nov 25, 2015 12:01 AM

    How are so many people ignoring the fact that he’s an alcoholic and asking what is the problem with him drinking?

    Seriously.

    He is LITERALLY THROWING HIS JOB AWAY OVER DRINKING. It just happened right before our eyes.

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