NFL morning after: League should crack down on fake injuries

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During Sunday’s Raiders-Broncos game, an Oakland pass along the sideline was ruled a completion, but Denver thought the receiver failed to get both feet inbounds. The Broncos wanted to have time to check the replay and throw the challenge flag as the Raiders were lining up to run the next play, so Broncos linebacker Von Miller did the one thing a player can always do to get the officials to halt the game: He said he was injured.

Specifically, Miller flopped onto the ground, holding his leg. It was a bad acting job that Dan Fouts, calling the game on CBS, immediately called out as a fake injury. But it had its desired effect: The officials stopped the game for Miller’s “injury,” and the Broncos successfully challenged the play.

Some people laugh that stuff off as gamesmanship, but the fact is that it’s cheating. And it’s a particularly insidious kind of cheating because it exploits the NFL’s player safety rules, which say that a game must be stopped when a player is hurt.

What can the NFL do about it? For starters, it can fine both Miller and the Broncos. The league has taken that step once before, when the Steelers were fined $35,000 and Emmanuel Sanders was fined $15,000 in 2012 because Sanders pretended to be hurt to give the Steelers’ offense time to change a play without a delay of game penalty. Those fines are a good first step toward cracking down on fake injuries, but they’re insufficient. That’s just not enough money to discourage an NFL team or player from faking an injury. Steeper fines and the loss of draft picks would go a long way toward sending the message that fake injuries won’t be tolerated.

The NFL could also change the rules on how injured players are handled. Currently, the rule is that if the clock stops to give a player medical attention on the field, that player must sit out one play. A rule requiring the player to sit out the rest of that possession would make players a lot less likely to fake an injury, and would have the added benefit of ensuring that team medical personnel have enough time to diagnose and treat injured players on the sideline.

What the NFL can’t do is have referees throw penalty flags on injury fakers. There’s just no way for a ref to know for sure, in the heat of the moment, that a player is faking. A 15-yard penalty would be the easiest way to stop fake injuries, but that’s just not going to happen.

So what the NFL will have to start doing is handling fake injuries through the league’s disciplinary process. The Broncos and Miller should be hearing from the league this week.

Here are my other thoughts from Sunday:

Calvin Johnson is the NFL’s most expensive decoy. The Lions are paying Megatron $20 million a year, by far the most that any NFL receiver gets paid. And yet they’re barely using him in their offense: Yesterday he caught one pass. There’s simply no excuse for allocating that much cap space to a player you don’t even use. The new G.M. in Detroit next year will have a tough decision to make about whether the Lions can continue to justify Johnson’s enormous contract.

The Colts are terrible, and could still make the playoffs. The Colts have lost their last two games by a combined score of 96-26. Yesterday they were obliterated, 51-16, by a bad Jaguars team. And yet it’s still entirely possible that Indianapolis will win the AFC South. This is an absolutely awful division.

Todd Gurley remains incredible. Gurley had 16 carries for 140 yards and two touchdowns in yesterday’s win over the Lions, and his 49-yard run was his fifth run of 40 or more yards this season, the most in the NFL. There was some talk in recent weeks that he had hit a rookie wall, but Gurley is still the best rookie in the NFL.

Marcus Mariota had one big play in defeat. Last Sunday, Mariota was brilliant. Yesterday, Mariota struggled through much of the Titans’ 30-8 loss to the Jets. But Mariota did catch a 41-yard touchdown pass on a trick play. That makes him the only player in the NFL this year who has a touchdown run, a touchdown pass and a touchdown catch.

The AFC wild card race is heating up. The Chiefs, Jets and Steelers all won yesterday to improve to 8-5, and they’re going to have a very interesting three-way race for the two AFC wild card spots. The Chiefs appear to have the best chance because their remaining three games are against three bad teams, the Ravens, Browns and Raiders. The Jets still have to play the Patriots (as well as the Cowboys and Bills), while the Steelers still have to play the Broncos (as well as the Ravens and Browns). A pretty good team is going to get left out.

An awful injury for Thomas Rawls. Rawls, the Seahawks’ undrafted rookie running back who burst out of nowhere as a replacement for and even an improvement on Marshawn Lynch, suffered a season-ending broken ankle yesterday. Rawls’s rookie season ended with 147 carries for 830 yards, a 5.65-yard average that is the second best in NFL history for a rookie running back who had at least 140 carries. Only Maurice Jones-Drew, who averaged 5.67 yards a carry as a rookie in 2006, had a higher average as a rookie.

Andy Dalton’s injury changes everything. The Bengals had a real shot at the Super Bowl and Dalton was playing at a very high level, but Dalton’s likely season-ending broken thumb is devastating for Cincinnati. It was a terrible Sunday on the injury front, both the real kind and the fake kind.

124 responses to “NFL morning after: League should crack down on fake injuries

  1. “The Chiefs appear to have the best chance because their remaining three games are against three bad teams, the Ravens, Browns and Raiders.”

    Pardon me, but the Raiders really can’t be considered a “bad team”, nor are the Chiefs as good as their record implies.

  2. So you and Dan Fouts have x-ray vision? Nope…..didn’t think so. Did he fake it? Probably. Writing a rule to stop it? Impossible. Make them sit out the possession and players are “being incentivized to play hurt”. Can’t have that – the attorneys will sue the NFL and Hollywood will make a movie about it.

    Besides – it’s no worse than underinflated footballs. Just ask Miss Brady.

  3. I guess I don’t watch enough games (watching even less these days) to realize that this is even a problem. We should wait for Goodell to appoint a committee of no-names and puppets to address it.

  4. I had a lot of respect for the comments MDS made about Von Miller’s cheating (not unexpected from a player who used PEDs in the past), but I have to take issue with his (later in the article) lumping the Raiders with the Ravens and Browns as ‘bad’ teams which are automatic wins for the Chiefs. Now I’m not yet claiming that the Raiders are good, but at 6-7 and still mathematically alive (abeit on life-support) in the AFC playoff race they have made the transition from being bad in recent years to the ranks of the average this season. In terms of the overall standings they are firmly middle-of-the-pack and I think the Chiefs would be crazy to view the season-ending game against an improved division rival as a sure-win.

  5. BUT WOULD ALL TEAMS BE TREATED FAIR OR WOULD IT BE LIKE THE NORM AND SOME TEAMS WOULD BE PENALIZED AND LEAGUE FAVORITES PATS AND PACKERS IT’S OK WE WILL LOOK THE OTHER WAY

  6. Broncos cheat? Ho hum. Von Miller cheat? What else is new?

    Hit them each with $25K in fines, take away two draft picks.

    That team is the Donald Trump of the NFL.

  7. So maybe Gurley not being so great the prior weeks…and Rawls averaging 5.65 (which leads the NFL) may mean Gurley is not the clear best rookie.

    Just saying don’t give it to Gurley because of his draft status. Rawls was playing at a higher level more consistently. Gurley is a stud and Rawls is also. Gurley isn’t “clearly” the best rookie is all I’m saying.

  8. “Some people laugh that stuff off as gamesmanship, but the fact is that it’s cheating. ”

    ..wait a minute..you mean other teams are being accused of cheating..how can this be??? How refreshing that for once ..it’s NOT the Patriots…!!!!

  9. I’m not a Raiders fan, but did you just lump them in with the “bad” teams while putting the Cowboys in with the “tough” teams??? Wow, you just lost a lot of credibility with that one.

  10. That’s nothing new for the Broncos

    Everyone knows they only won their two Super Bowls by cheating on the salary cap and getting what remains the largest fine in the history of the NFL

    Why stop cheating now?

  11. I totally agree with the “fake injury” crap! They do it all the time! Especially when the opposing team has momentum building. The Bears and Packers are notorious for it around here. It needs to stop! The refs always feel sorry for “the pioneers” football. So, so, sick of it all!

  12. “The Bengals had a real shot at the Super Bowl and Dalton was playing at a very high level, but Dalton’s likely season-ending broken thumb is devastating for Cincinnati.”

    What is it Dalton has done that makes him different this year?

    There he was on the big stage again, a huge game against a division rival and a win would have buried them.

    What does he do?

    He throws a pick inside the 5 yard line and then injures himself making a tackle after the pick.

    That’s a Bungler, that’s Andy Dalton.

  13. Sounds like we are suggesting fining players for injuries that don’t take them out of the game for more than one play. Or maybe I am mistaken. Maybe we only fine them when their one play injury is coincidental? Sounds like a fairy tale for the league to try to determine which injuries are real and which are fake. Even if you have an independent doctor on the sideline and that is not even going to happen. It is gamesmanship, or cheating if you prefer but you can’t stop it so I chalk it as a smart play by Miller.

  14. jrclark1978 says:
    Dec 14, 2015 6:16 AM

    Flopgate. The NFL will be calling for another Wells report

    >>>>>>>

    No they won’t…unless they can implicate the Patriots somehow…

  15. Pats fan here and I have to agree with the Raiders fans above regarding the Raiders. If I was a Raiders fan, I would like the gains that team has made. I wouldn’t feel that way if I was a Browns or Ravens fan. They may not be playoff-ready, but they’re not as bad as the Brown or Ravens.

  16. “Some people laugh that stuff off as gamesmanship, but the fact is that it’s cheating. ”

    Since when has the Broncos organization ever had any problems with cheating?

  17. The Giants do this all the time, they actually have a call for it (a coach will do a swim move on the sideline and then the designated player will flop). That nobody cares is quite interesting.

  18. 1st and 4th round pick…..oh nevermind it was Denver. Compared to Cheating the salary cap twice this is nothing

  19. OK, let’s all agree that Oakland is not a bad team, and that the author should have said something like “their remaining three games are against three teams with losing records”.

  20. I’m sure all of the Broncos fans that think being generally aware of air pressure deflation (even though the allegations were proved false by science and admittedly proved false by the NFL themselves) will come down as hard on Von Miller as they have on Brady…

    Air pressure deflation, even if true, may or may not have an impact on the game. The way Brady has played since that situation would certainly lead a person to believe its benefit has been very very very very very very very very very very over exaggerated. Meanwhile, a direct and tangible impact on the game was perpetrated by Miller’s cheating. To me, the fake injury thing is far bigger with regard to the integrity of the game, but we are talking about one of the special 31, not the mean old Patriots. I suspect Goodell will give them a crippling penalty, somewhere in the neighborhood of $31, and dock them 13 seconds of practice time this week

  21. “….Gurley is still the best rookie in the NFL.”

    Considering he’s up against players like Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota (who was the very next talking point), Amari Cooper, and T.J. Yeldon, that’s saying something.

  22. I’m a Chiefs fan, but watching them play can be painful. The good has at times out weighed the bad, but the wins look more like luck than skill. The defense often rises to the occasion, but watching the offense is like watching a mish mash and hoping for a good result. They have mid level skills and get mid level results.

  23. marty2020 says:Dec 14, 2015 6:29 AM

    “…a bad Jaguars team…

    I take great offense to that. We are not bad. We are mediocre. Which is a huge jump up for us. Go Jags!

    ***
    araidersfan says:Dec 14, 2015 6:30 AM

    …Now I’m not yet claiming that the Raiders are good, but at 6-7 and still mathematically alive (abeit on life-support) in the AFC playoff race they have made the transition from being bad in recent years to the ranks of the average this season.

    —–

    I definitely agree the Jags and the Raiders are on the up, but I would also argue that this year, mediocre in the NFL isn’t very good. The NFL is a bad product this year. Teams and refs are just not that good and it shows. Even an undefeated team with 3 games left to play isn’t considered great, just pretty good.

    If the best team in the league is “pretty good”, wheres that leave the rest of the NFL?

  24. The Giants did this throughout the last Super Bowl against the Patriots. The Patriots would go into the hurry up. Get some momentum. Then a Giant would go down holding his leg.

  25. jrclark1978 says:
    Dec 14, 2015 6:16 AM
    Flopgate. The NFL will be calling for another Wells report.
    ——————————-
    Except this time there’s some evidence of foul play and much evidence of benefit, so there won’t be, even though Miller got a fine just two weeks ago for spearing (albeit a measly one that they even avoided calling a spear, because the victim was Brady). Miller should already have been suspended, so this is what you get for going easy on persistently dirty players. Brought to you by Denver, single biggest double-cheats in history (cap) – and as clean as a donkey’s behind today.

  26. Honestly, who outside of Missouri residents, wants to watch an Alex Smith led Chiefs play the Indianapolis Colts in the playoffs again? If the NFL fixes things, please please please fix it so this doesn’t happen again!

  27. Forcing players to sit out the entire possession would reduce fake injuries, but it might also make players try to “tough it out” more often so they aren’t removed from the game. That could really compromise player safety so I don’t see it happening.

  28. Agreed. Miller and Broncos should be fined. Supposed injured player needs to sit the remainder of possession.

  29. If Andrew Luck is smart, and I think he is, he should go to free agency rather than play for such a buffoonery owner like Irsay. All Irsay cares about is buying Ringo’s drum set.

  30. Steeper fines and loss of draft picks for a feigned injury? You have to be kidding. That sort of nonsense will just encourage the league, already out of control, to play God more and introduce another chance for inconsistency in the application of rules. Just make them sit out the whole possession. That’s a big enough reason for someone not to do it, and would be a consistent penalty for all such instances.

  31. This rule is and has always been extremely flawed. Injured players miss one play??? If game has to be stopped to treat injury, player should be not allowed back on field for the remainder of the series, that will easily resolve the issue while additionally being consistent with the league’s “concern of player safety” approach. Lone exception would be if NFL spotter above deemed after the fact wrongfully having stopped the game for concussion concern observation.

    Will this at times seem a bit harsh in a an extreme situation? Perhaps. But so what, it will easily resolve the issue and cease this long time tactic of faking injuries.

  32. The broncos faked and injury against the raiders. That’s some irony against the team that practically invented that move.

  33. bu2b1970 says:
    Dec 14, 2015 6:21 AM
    “The Chiefs appear to have the best chance because their remaining three games are against three bad teams, the Ravens, Browns and Raiders.”

    Pardon me, but the Raiders really can’t be considered a “bad team”, nor are the Chiefs as good as their record implies.
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    The Chiefs are as good or better than their record implies. They opened the season against 3 teams that are Division leaders and likely all going to be in the playoffs. Green Bay (with Jordy Nelson), Denver (whom they should have beat), and Cincinatti. During that time they were missing their starting corner, and their star safety, Eric Berry, was still recovering from cancer. Their OL has finally gelled and they’ve played their last two games without starters Justin Houston and Hussain Abdullah not to mention numerous other injuries, yet they keep winning. They beat the Raiders in Oakland and will beat them again in the last game, and since you say the Raiders aren’t a “bad” team, you can’t write that win off for KC.

  34. Here’s a thought. Get the call right in the first place and a player won’t have to flop to have time to challenge

  35. Faking Injuries?
    Obviously the first Team that comes to mind is the cheating New York Giants**.

    The Donkeys, mainly known for Cheating the Salary Cap, must have been watching recent Giants film to learn this cheating method.

  36. The biggest fake is Gronk, flopped to the ground rolling around acting like his leg was blown off.. All for a mild sprain. Talk about attention needy.

  37. “Pardon me, but the Raiders really can’t be considered a “bad team”, nor are the Chiefs as good as their record implies.”

    While the first part of your statement is correct, the Raiders are not a bad team, the second part is totally off. If you don’t think the Chiefs are an 8-5 team, then you don’t know a thing about football. In reality, they should be 10-3. They gave away the 1st Denver game and the Chicago game. Mind you that they have played most of the season without their best player. Their defense is very good. They are an 8-5 team that can win a game or two in the playoffs. Super Bowl? Highly unlikely but they certainly can beat any AFC playoff team with the exception of N.E. and Pitt. The AFC champion comes from one of those two places.

  38. I don’t buy “the player toughing it out” argument. Players trying to tough it out hurt their teams. Seasoned qbs no quickly where an injury is and will take advantage–coaches will come down on a player that hurts his team by not coming off the field and if a player is fit enough to miss ‘only one play’ they are fit enough to leave the field on their own.

  39. demolition510 says:
    Dec 14, 2015 8:59 AM

    Agreed. Miller and Broncos should be fined. Supposed injured player needs to sit the remainder of possession.

    —-
    A fine, losing the player for the possession, a delay of game flag AND loss of ALL remaining timeouts (or a 30 second runoff if none) for the half should be a nice deterrent. 🙂

  40. What else would you expect from this classless organization? They only “won” their 2 SBs because of illegal, secret payments of millions of dollars to Elway and Davis! Vaseline on o-line uniforms. Illegal chop blocks designed to injure. Now, before all you Denver fans start crying, all of those statements can be quickly looked up.

  41. Here’s a novel idea, how about the refs just get the call right the first time or make catches reviewable without the need for teams to interject. Challenge flags wouldn’t be necessary if refs were actually doing their jobs correctly, which is getting the calls right. With today’s technology, there is no reason every single play can’t be corrected within seconds. “Gamesmanship” is just another excuse for the NFL / NFLRA to get away with manipulating the outcomes of games.

  42. sammievee says:
    Dec 14, 2015 9:07 AM

    This rule is and has always been extremely flawed. Injured players miss one play??? If game has to be stopped to treat injury, player should be not allowed back on field for the remainder of the series, that will easily resolve the issue while additionally being consistent with the league’s “concern of player safety” approach. Lone exception would be if NFL spotter above deemed after the fact wrongfully having stopped the game for concussion concern observation.

    Then you’ll have scrubs faking injuries and it’s no loss to the team if they have to sit.

    Loss of player for series, a delay of game flag, AND losing all your timeouts for the rest of the half (and a 30 second runoff if you don’t have any) should be a sufficient deterrent to this kind of cheating.

    (and Florio is absolutely right that it is cheating)

  43. infectorman says:
    Dec 14, 2015 9:16 AM

    Faking Injuries?
    Obviously the first Team that comes to mind is the cheating New York Giants**.

    Tyree also used stickum on his catch. One of his teammates is on record admitting it. 😦

  44. tg1896 says:
    Dec 14, 2015 6:21 AM
    So you and Dan Fouts have x-ray vision? Nope…..didn’t think so. Did he fake it? Probably. Writing a rule to stop it? Impossible. Make them sit out the possession and players are “being incentivized to play hurt”. Can’t have that – the attorneys will sue the NFL and Hollywood will make a movie about it.

    Besides – it’s no worse than underinflated footballs. Just ask Miss Brady.

    =======================
    So we agree.

    Faking an injury is cheating and is equivalent to underinflated footballs.

    Face it you sanctimonious hypocites. The players on your favorite team try to work every possible angle to get an advantage.

    It’s true of the Patriots. It’s true of the Broncos, it’s true of the Ravens, and Steelers, and whatever team you follow.

  45. Wait, you want them to punish fake injuries when they can’t even moderate REAL injuries?

    How about just being consistent, like calling the facemask on Cooper…. The one that happened right in front of an official, the one that was very similar to Aaron Rodgers’, the one Blandino said would get called “every time”….

  46. Cmon Raiders….get your act together and make it fun to hate you again.

    I miss hating that team!

    🙂

  47. dabears62 says:
    Dec 14, 2015 7:56 AM

    WOW, if the Colts win the East, Irsay will be able to raise another “Playoff participant banner”
    _____________________________

    That would be impressive, considering the Patriots are gonna win the East

  48. Regarding faking injuries – “Insidious?”

    Indigo Montoya: “I do not think it means what you think it means.”

    Stop whining about little things. The NFL is in an officiating crisis. That deserves real scrutiny and an off season overhaul.

  49. Bad teams can turn things around if they have a good, young QB to build around in todays NFL.

    Derek Carr and Blake Bortles represent exactly that. Those are 2 teams on the rise, not 2 bad teams. They’re definately capable of pulling off upsets (as yesterdays win in Den and the thrashing IND suffered proves).

  50. I also think it’s doable for officials to see what is a legit injury situation and what’s not.

    If NHL hockey refs can give penalties to divers, it shouldn’t be that hard for NFL officials to be trained to spot that crap.

  51. joemammy says:
    Dec 14, 2015 10:01 AM

    No more fake injuries. You listening, Fat Ben?

    —-
    Only when there’s a camera nearby so he can talk about what a tough guy he is playing through his “injury”. 🙂

  52. WOW, if the Colts win the East, Irsay will be able to raise another “Playoff participant banner”
    **************************************

    Colts are in the AFC South. I would be really impressed if they won any East Division.

  53. As a Browns fan, I take exception to them being lumped with the Ravens and the Raiders as bad teams. They’re a few plays from being a 7 win team. They will beat the Chiefs.

  54. I would like to see a penalty when players beg for a flag, every time one of the so called elite qb’s get touched, they turn to the refs and put their hands in the air, or a wr begging for a PI when they don’t catch it. game is getting tiresome.

  55. Glad you noticed this and wrote about it. Von Millers a great player but to do that and then still carry on making out hes injured was a disgrace.

    Hope the NFL fine him

  56. SO, just disregard the fact the bronocs were getting screwed by the refs call! No, that’s ok! But him faking a cramp, thats not. Every team bends the rules in some manner, EVERY team! Some are just still bad.

  57. In the spirit of player safety, any timeout for an injury should require the player to sit out the rest of that possession. Same player goes down again, sits out the quarter, and a 3rd time, sits out the rest of the game.

    One, gives the medical team time to actually evaluate the player. Two, if a player flops once, and then gets hurt, its like a built in penalty.

  58. desertviking64 says:
    Dec 14, 2015 10:20 AM

    I would like to see a penalty when players beg for a flag, every time one of the so called elite qb’s get touched, they turn to the refs and put their hands in the air, or a wr begging for a PI when they don’t catch it. game is getting tiresome.
    _________________________________

    It’s laughable to think only elite players engage in this behavior.

    All players do regardless what personal level of success they have achieved.

  59. Gronkowski leaves the Denver game (of extreme importance to the Pats), then misses another game, and people think he flopped?

    Incredible.

  60. If players who get hurt have to sit out a lot longer than one play it will not matter to the genuinely hurt and will discourage the floppers.

    maybe 20 minutes of real clock so “they have time to be properly evaluated and can resume play safely”

  61. Further proof that either every team deserves one of these (*) at some point in their history or they don’t…everyone’s going to say what the other team did is worse than what their team did. It’s all homerism at that point.

  62. Probably the main reason that the Chiefs are on their winning streak is because Andy Reid hasn’t pulled an Andy Reid lately.

  63. theangrytammy says:
    Dec 14, 2015 10:25 AM
    Broncos never were fined $1M. Broncos never had a first round (or second) taken away. Get your facts straight! Your jealousy really is all consuming.
    _____________________

    Correct, they were fined $32K short of $1M and a 3rd round pick the FIRST time and $50k less than $1M and another 3rd the SECOND time. A total of just shy of $2M and 2 third rounders. But nonetheless those Lombardis are still in Denver. Here’s their **

    Other than the colts deliberately tanking games on two separate seasons to get their QB’s of choice there probably isn’t a more egregious case of cheating in the SB era. Folks in glass houses…
    But then ‘tammy’ being one of chippy’s aliases doesn’t really live in that house anyway, no real Denver fan would bring that up

  64. Thanks Dave for throwing gasoline on the whole “the Broncos are cheaters” fire. Even fans of the team were rolling their eyes at Von Millers “cramp” yesterday, but please don’t try to equate it to a major cheating scandal.

    I don’t see it as being any worse than when a coach asks for a measurement with the sticks, even when they are clearly short of the 1st down marker… A move that “Smiling Jack” employed in the very same game yesterday.

    I guess what I’m saying is, teams aren’t using spy sweeper technology to scan the visitors locker room at Sports Authority Field, you’re kind of barking up the wrong tree.

  65. þatfromwayba€k says:
    Dec 14, 2015 6:50 AM
    “Some people laugh that stuff off as gamesmanship, but the fact is that it’s cheating. ”

    ..wait a minute..you mean other teams are being accused of cheating..how can this be??? How refreshing that for once ..it’s NOT the Patriots…!!!!
    ———————————-

    First off: Raider fan here still high from an amazing performance by NFL SACK LEADER KHALIL MACK.
    Second: Miller was just doing what the Broncos have always done.
    Third: Your arse is showing. If you don’t remember your precious Patri*ts’ Willie McGinest flopping to stop Peyton Manning’s unstoppable no-huddle back in 2003 (an egregious flop, made more so by his game ending tackle just minutes later) then you either haven’t been a Pats fan very long or your bias is truly blinding – seek help.

    “Everyone does it” – the Patri*ts mantra!

    P.S. Two PI no-calls on the same drive (one with a face mask no less!) and you still couldn’t stop the OAKLAND RAIDERS, Denver fan! Lemme guess, we got “lucky” Peyton wasn’t in? The same Peyton you’d all forgotten just 24 hours ago. Typical mile high and mighty!
    It. Is. Over.

  66. According to another poster…”Then you’ll have scrubs faking injuries and it’s no loss to the team if they have to sit.”

    Coaches are not going to risk giving up a big play so as to put “scrubs in game to fake an injury. And missed is the issue here, that being cheating to buy time to make a decision as to a challenge–an unforeseeable situation.

    Take a player off for the series, regardless if he is faking injury or actually injured. The officials won’t even have to play God in making the read as weather or not the player is injured, nor will the league.

  67. So all I’ve gotten out of this is Oakland and Jacksonville are the best of the ducky teams and that flopping is bad

  68. sasquatch77 says:
    Dec 14, 2015 11:53 AM
    Thanks Dave for throwing gasoline on the whole “the Broncos are cheaters” fire.
    I guess what I’m saying is, teams aren’t using spy sweeper technology to scan the visitors locker room at Sports Authority Field, you’re kind of barking up the wrong tree.
    _____________________

    They are cheaters, proven fact. Anybody ever find one of those paranoia inducing bugs?

  69. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says:
    Dec 14, 2015 11:27 AM
    theangrytammy says:
    Dec 14, 2015 10:25 AM
    Broncos never were fined $1M. Broncos never had a first round (or second) taken away. Get your facts straight! Your jealousy really is all consuming.
    _____________________

    Correct, they were fined $32K short of $1M and a 3rd round pick the FIRST time and $50k less than $1M and another 3rd the SECOND time. A total of just shy of $2M and 2 third rounders. But nonetheless those Lombardis are still in Denver. Here’s their **

    —-

    Don’t forget… it is a fact that the Broncos are the only organization in the history of the NFL to be fined for taping practices.

    🙂

  70. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says:
    Dec 14, 2015 1:07 PM
    sasquatch77 says:
    Dec 14, 2015 11:53 AM
    Thanks Dave for throwing gasoline on the whole “the Broncos are cheaters” fire.
    I guess what I’m saying is, teams aren’t using spy sweeper technology to scan the visitors locker room at Sports Authority Field, you’re kind of barking up the wrong tree.
    _____________________

    They are cheaters, proven fact. Anybody ever find one of those paranoia inducing bugs?

    Broncos*

    *fined for taping another team’s practices and the only organization in NFL history to be punished for doing so

  71. Coaches are not going to risk giving up a big play so as to put “scrubs in game to fake an injury

    Maybe scrub is not the right word, but let’s just say it will be a lesser player than the likes of an Emmanuel Sanders or Von Miller who would take the dive… and why wouldn’t it be. Ask a JAG to do it and they are replaced without a second thought for a series.

    Not opposed to the idea, just think it should be more than that to be a real deterrent.

  72. This bit about wanting to penalize draft picks every time a player sneezes hard is ridiculous. Sometimes players engage in questionable practices because they’ve been coached to do it; sometimes they act on their own volition. You don’t penalize a team–and its fans–for years to come because of one bozo’s bad behavior. On the other hand, the suggestion that players come out for a series rather than a play is a good one. That should discourage players from faking injuries for their own reasons.

  73. Never see the Patriots or Packers faking injury??? You have got to be kidding me, right? They do it all the time. Maybe you just don’t recognize it anymore because they have become such good actors that they deserve Oscars!!

  74. If you want to make fines have an effect start using PERCENTAGES of salary instead of fixed amounts. A 5% fine for severe violations would be a start. Raise it 5% for every infraction that player accumulates. Maybe when they are playing for free they will see the errors of their ways.

  75. ” LEAGUE FAVORITES PATS AND PACKERS IT’S OK WE WILL LOOK THE OTHER WAY”

    Uh, ya. Did you miss the whole deflategate thing? You know, where the nfl never ever measured footballs before and admitted they had no idea what the ideal gas law was but still went ahead and fabricated a report to claim the Pats deflated the footballs. You know, the Wells report which has since been totally debunked with revelations such as Wells (or Exponent) having falsified the transient curve data along with many others that make it perfectly clear the nfl assigned Wells the task of showng guilt regardless of what the evidence showed- that report. Wow, if the Pats are the nfl favorites I hate to be on their bad side.

  76. I totally agree with the “fake injury” crap! They do it all the time! Especially when the opposing team has momentum building. The Bears and Packers are notorious for it around here. It needs to stop! The refs always feel sorry for “the pioneers” football. So, so, sick of it all!

    Omg..everyone go buy poor Viking fans a year supply of tissue for Christmas. Would it be too much to ask for you girls to just quit crying for 1 freaking year? No one in the North is going to the SuperBowl no matter what happens. And those pioneers of football?? The Bears and the Packers? You should be kissing the feet of the statues of Halas and Lombardi because those two were the driving force of getting your sorry ass fair weather fan base a team. And maybe just maybe,the refs don’t feel sorry for any team that pays millions to have a child beater as the face of the franchise. Whaaaaaaaa ! Get to school.

  77. I would like to see a penalty when players beg for a flag, every time one of the so called elite qb’s get touched, they turn to the refs and put their hands in the air, or a wr begging for a PI when they don’t catch it. game is getting tiresome

    Yeah..because your team NEVER does that.

  78. are we seriously going to sit here and pretend that this doesn’t happen with every team in every single game in the NFL?!! Really. When this happens again this coming weekend I expect there to be a headline about how another team is cheating! Unbelievable. That is like me saying that a certain team is cheating because an offensive lineman was holding a defensive lineman during the course of a pass rush! Give me a break!

  79. Denver cheated the cap in 3 successive years in 1995, 1996 and 1997.

    It’s really the ONLY real “cheating” scandal the NFL has ever seen, yet somehow the media ignored it and continues to ignore it, while enabling Sheriff Goebbels to overreact to conjured up SUPPOSED advantages that aren’t even advantages.

    Cheating in Denver is a Pat Bowlen inspired tradition.

  80. ninjapleazee says:
    Dec 14, 2015 9:18 AM
    The biggest fake is Gronk, flopped to the ground rolling around acting like his leg was blown off.. All for a mild sprain. Talk about attention needy.

    —-

    … the dude was out for 2 weeks. Can I give you a bone bruise/knee sprain and see how manly you take it?

  81. STILLlolatpatshaters says:
    Dec 14, 2015 9:37 AM

    Tyree also used stickum on his catch. One of his teammates is on record admitting it.

    As a Pats fan, as much as I would love for that to be true, that quote doesn’t come off as being serious. It wasn’t an admission, his teammate was just commenting on how unbelievable the catch was.

  82. Deb says:
    Dec 14, 2015 5:55 PM
    This bit about wanting to penalize draft picks every time a player sneezes hard is ridiculous. Sometimes players engage in questionable practices because they’ve been coached to do it; sometimes they act on their own volition. You don’t penalize a team–and its fans–for years to come because of one bozo’s bad behavior. On the other hand, the suggestion that players come out for a series rather than a play is a good one. That should discourage players from faking injuries for their own reasons.

    Add to this something that people don’t usually think about: Every draft pick you take away from a team is one more college kid that doesn’t get a rookie contract.

  83. Add to this something that people don’t usually think about: Every draft pick you take away from a team is one more college kid that doesn’t get a rookie contract.
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    Two comments: First, the kid will just have to go the UDFA route. It works well for a lot of guys every year. Second, if he doesn’t make it he’ll just have to put that college edumucation to use. Either way, not a big hit to the economy or the league.

  84. bu2b1970 says:
    Dec 14, 2015 6:21 AM

    “The Chiefs appear to have the best chance because their remaining three games are against three bad teams, the Ravens, Browns and Raiders.”

    Pardon me, but the Raiders really can’t be considered a “bad team”, nor are the Chiefs as good as their record implies.

    435- 100
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Oakland isn’t a “bad” team? Guess you and I define bad differently.

    They’re 24th out of 32 for most yards allowed. They’re tied for 22nd for most points allowed.

    We know the league is a passing league and Oakland has given up the 28th most passing yards. Uh, out of 32 teams.

    On offense, they have the 20th most yards, so they’re better than they are on defense but 20th is still in the bottom half of the league.

    They are 15th in points. But adding it all up, they are in the bottom half of teams.

    They are 17th in the league in point differential, so again they’re below the halfway point of teams.

    Being in the bottom half to bottom third of teams is bad, at least to me.

    So is losing more games than you win and the Raiders are below .500… they’re not good.

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