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Jim Nantz, Peyton Manning share an agent

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Jim Nantz’s refusal to mention the Peyton Manning HGH allegations during Sunday’s Chargers-Broncos game likely traces to the delicate balance between NFL broadcast partners and the importance of having good relationships with key players and coaches for the purposes of production meetings and other dynamics related to presenting a pro football game on TV. But there’s another element to this one, as reported by Christian Red and Michael O’Keeffe of the New York Daily News.

Nantz and Manning are both represented by Sandy Montag. They’ve appeared together in commercials for Sony and Papa John’s, presumably thanks to the efforts of Montag to secure the endorsements.

Montag also helped former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer launch his sports P.R. firm more than a decade ago. Fleischer has been hired by Manning to preside over the unnecessarily aggressive effort to push back against the Al Jazeera story alleging that Ashley Manning received multiple shipments of HGH, with the clear implication being that the HGH was intended for use by Peyton.

“I didn’t even know Sandy represented Nantz and in all cases, I haven’t asked Sandy to do anything on this,” Fleischer told the Daily News.

Fleischer’s response implies that news discretion gets exercised only in response to a direct request. Discretion is typically exercised more discreetly (sorry, I couldn’t think of another word).

Montag gets it; Nantz gets it. Peyton is part of the broader business family, and Nantz apparently chose to protect him. Or, perhaps more accurately, to avoid pissing him off.

Surely, after communicating with Manning and the Broncos in the days preceding the game, Nantz and CBS knew that they needed to tread lightly on the HGH angle. The easiest way to do that was to declare that the whole thing is a non-story.

“The reason that Jim did not rehash this eight-day old story during the broadcast was based on the actual news value of it,” a CBS Sports spokesperson told the Daily News.

So in seven days, the story goes from having enough value to dominate the entire NFL coverage to being not worthy of even a passing mention during a three-hour program?

While transparency would be refreshing, nuances like these have become easy to justify at a time when PLENTY of people in the media are represented by agents with firms that also represent the athletes and coaches they cover — and when pretty much every professional team and league have hired their own reporters to cover the teams and leagues themselves.

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  1. BradyIsTheGCOAT says: Jan 5, 2016 11:26 AM

    Not as shady as the snake oil salesman Brady & the cheats are in business with.

  2. jbaxt says: Jan 5, 2016 11:27 AM

    That explains part of the media’s reason for swinging from Peyton’s sack. What’s everyone else’s excuse? Last I checked the 1 seed Broncos had trouble with the 15 seed Chargers… At home nonetheless.

  3. realfootballfan says: Jan 5, 2016 11:28 AM

    How do you know Ari Fleischer is lying? He’s talking.

  4. pats777 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:29 AM

    Total BS. If Giselle was getting shipments, this would be headlining EVERY nightly news show for weeks.

  5. cuda1234 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:30 AM

    Personally I think we need more people like Nantz. When did gossip and innuendo become a necessary part of sports, or even sports ‘journalism’?

  6. nflequalswwe says: Jan 5, 2016 11:32 AM

    Apparently Brady’s agent sodomized Al Michaels’ wife given that he was talking about framegate during Brady’s historic 2nd half of the Super Bowl…

  7. ninerfan81 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:34 AM

    that would’ve made for awkward rounds at Augusta National this spring had he mentioned it

  8. stipez says: Jan 5, 2016 11:36 AM

    HGH should be legal, weed too. Not steroids, just help with healing and pain.

  9. bigdawg24 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:37 AM

    Peyton Manning using his wife to do his “dirty work” in getting him the HGH. What a low life….. Guy sold his soul to the Devil when he joined the Broncos, now it his time to pay up.

  10. hairpie2 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:38 AM

    this league is a joke…. who is going to have the guts and power to expose them from top to bottom?

  11. bullogne says: Jan 5, 2016 11:39 AM

    Somebody should ask Goodell what’s going on here and when we can expect an investigation. Peyton Manning is the prominent name here but there are other NFL players listed as well. Better get ahead of this one Roger…..

  12. fetts81 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:40 AM

    Look at the size of Peyton’s head!!! Look at his head when he was in college and look at his head now!! We all said bonds head grew… Check Peyton’s dome out lol! Sure, he never took anything lol

  13. geewhiz23 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:40 AM

    When did the White House give Nantz the stand down order? #Nantzghazi

  14. dcpatfan says: Jan 5, 2016 11:42 AM

    Come Clean Ashley!

  15. dcsween says: Jan 5, 2016 11:42 AM

    “… the story goes from having enough value to dominate the entire NFL coverage to being not worthy of even a passing mention …?”

    The media decides what is newsworthy. In a slow news period, non-stories becomes stories. In heavy news periods, stories become non-stories. I don’t understand the question mark here.

  16. patsrule59 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:44 AM

    Nantz has always been a Manning rump swab.

  17. johnkgc says: Jan 5, 2016 11:44 AM

    Amen, Florio.

  18. phooteballs says: Jan 5, 2016 11:44 AM

    Look Nantz is smart even if he’s spineless. He knows where his bread is buttered. He even proclaims Simms is a great broadcaster even though he is clearly a moron. Everybody needs a Jim Nantz on their side.

  19. mjd08501 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:46 AM

    Well if Nantz is “protecting” Peyton because they have the same agent (which he’s not, this is just a non-story to all non-Patriots fans), then you must be Brady’s dad with the ridiculous lengths you go to to protect him and smear all things Roger Goodell, Indianapolis Colts, Rex Ryan, and Peyton Manning.

  20. patriottony says: Jan 5, 2016 11:46 AM

    GOMER PYLE can do no wrong don’t ya know?,,you have steroid shipments to his HOME,,his HOME!!!,,and his reply is nun ya dam business,,no ted wells,,no magic pressure gauges…you have a box of BANNED controlled medications shipped to his residence,,,
    His first response..never happened…then it was,,well yeah we got shipments of HGH,,but it’s a private matter,,,,,TELL it to Barry Bonds,,MAGUIRE,,SOSA Rodriguez..etc etc..

    Mean while the NY JETS TAINTED FORMER LEADERS now the NFL throne sitters,,all go,,,ehhhhhh so what.

  21. tpm924 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:48 AM

    No need for Jim to mention anything. Viewers had to know there was some connection to Manning by the way Jim gushed with excitement seeing Manning warm up and then again when he entered the game.

  22. chc4 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:49 AM

    this league is a joke…. who is going to have the guts and power to expose them from top to bottom?
    ___________________________________

    What are you talking about? This is about Jim Nantz having the same agent as Manning and not mentioning the HGH story. Please don’t make this about Goodell or the big bad NFL. If you really think this is an egregious indiscretion then blame Nantz or CBS. Personally I think it’s a non-issue.

  23. lifetimefan says: Jan 5, 2016 11:49 AM

    Nantz speaks pretty clearly considering he spends his time with either his head up Peyton’s back side or shall we say facing the same vicinity from in front of the QB.

  24. rocketmcstonebreaker says: Jan 5, 2016 11:49 AM

    Brian Williams thinks Peyton Manning is lying.

  25. whyalwaysthehate says: Jan 5, 2016 11:51 AM

    Free Ashley.

  26. Patskrieg says: Jan 5, 2016 11:51 AM

    Nantz and Phil Simms are the worst broadcasting pair in the NFL. It’s of no surprise to me that Nantz is an unethical scab on top of it.

    If no one wants to dare punish the great Peyton Manning at least do the NFL some justice and have Nantz banned and replaced with someone who can call a football game.

  27. maestro1899 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:53 AM

    Peyton is part of the broader business family, and Nantz apparently chose to protect him. Or, perhaps more accurately, to avoid pissing him off.
    —————————————————————–

    Always looking for a consipiracy…

    How do you know that CBS, as a whole, decided this wasn’t newsworthy?

    Forget your prejudices for or against Peyton Manning and think about that for a second.

    A non-sports news organization reports that a very well-known sports figure used an illegal substance. The reporter then completely recants the entire story and said it’s not true.

    Why would CBS need to comment on it if the reporter who broke the story said it’s not true? Does a football broadcast have the obligation to report every rumor? Does Jim Nantz and Phil Simms need to start reading TMZ every Sunday morning to report on any other unsubstantiated rumors?

  28. hairpie2 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:56 AM

    chc4 says:
    Jan 5, 2016 11:49 AM
    this league is a joke…. who is going to have the guts and power to expose them from top to bottom?
    ___________________________________

    What are you talking about? This is about Jim Nantz having the same agent as Manning and not mentioning the HGH story. Please don’t make this about Goodell or the big bad NFL. If you really think this is an egregious indiscretion then blame Nantz or CBS. Personally I think it’s a non-issue.

    ————————–

    You’re gonna tell me you dont think the league has reached out to that agent and instructed him to tell Nantz and other announcers what they can and cant say about this situation???

  29. jkautz11 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:57 AM

    Masterful response by Maestro1899

  30. throwingstones20 says: Jan 5, 2016 11:57 AM

    I couldn’t care less if Manning took this stuff or not. Doesn’t matter. The way this is being handled by the media versus the way Brady was treated by the media is pathetic. Footballs were a little underinflated on a cold night in New England and Good Morning America and every other morning show led off with this story. A story come out that Manning and 5 or 6 other players were taking HGH and not a peep about it. That is a travesty. Brady should be suing all these networks especially ESPN for this crap.

  31. mccarthyisamoron says: Jan 5, 2016 11:59 AM

    I wouldn’t know, I have the volume off when Nantz is doing NFL. He should stick to the PGA and other nap-inducing sports, ‘that’s for sure’.

  32. chuckshontaspads says: Jan 5, 2016 12:00 PM

    With 2 minutes to go in the Super Bowl Michaels and Collingsworth went on a long discussion about Brady and ball deflation. As we now know all sane individuals know it was Mother Nature who deflated balls. What we know about the Manning family is massive amounts of HGH were sent to the Manning residence week after week. Common sense should take over and questions should be asked. Those are the FACTS man.

  33. wk1234 says: Jan 5, 2016 12:01 PM

    maestro1899 says:

    “A non-sports news organization reports that a very well-known sports figure used an illegal substance. The reporter then completely recants the entire story and said it’s not true.

    Why would CBS need to comment on it if the reporter who broke the story said it’s not true? Does a football broadcast have the obligation to report every rumor? Does Jim Nantz and Phil Simms need to start reading TMZ every Sunday morning to report on any other unsubstantiated rumors?”

    **********
    Your point would be taken more seriously if it were even close to the truth. The reporter has not recanted. It was the witness who changed his story after he discovered he had been secretly taped telling the truth.

  34. rjpats says: Jan 5, 2016 12:05 PM

    The story isn’t about how Peyton took HGH, the story is about how the entire media has circled the wagons and has refused to look into it.

    Where is Trent Dilfer crying on national television about how awful he is for cheating?

  35. j0esixpack says: Jan 5, 2016 12:05 PM

    It’s telling that rather than just waive HIPPA and allow his medical records from the Institute, Peyton hires the former WH Press Secretary to spin the story

    He could clear this up with medical record releases but refuses. Was Mrs. Manning also a conduit for Eli to get HGH too?

    Brady insisted on providing his testimony under oath. Goodell – who has been caught lying under oath – still went ballistic on him asserting an unsubstantiated equipment violation was akin to PEDs

    Well Peyton IS accused of PED use. Roger will not even acknowledge that let alone launch an investigation into a REAL PED allegation

    The NFL Commissioner and Owners are clearly corrupt but no one is willing to say that the Emperor of this $40 Billion business wears no clothes

  36. casualmalexlfan says: Jan 5, 2016 12:06 PM

    this league is a joke…. who is going to have the guts and power to expose them from top to bottom?

    A dead man, thats who lol. You think the people at 345 Park Avenue are gonna let someone waltz in and disrupt their machine that makes them billions a year?

  37. Hitdog18 says: Jan 5, 2016 12:08 PM

    So a legitimate news source has a second source showing that hgh was shipped to Peyton’s house, which no one disputes, and to you all, this is a “rumor”…apologists?

  38. mikep426 says: Jan 5, 2016 12:12 PM

    This all fascinating, but the reason Manning is getting a pass and Brady is not isn’t because (sorry Pats fans) everyone hate and is jealous of NE (they do hate them and they are jealous, but that’s not WHY)….

    …it’s because the NFL does NOT want any light shed on the PED, HGH, equine steroid issue in it’s league – and neither does it’s owners (including Kraft).

    The league and it’s owners DID want to go after NE & Brady re: deflategate (ok, that was probably due to some jealousy and of course spy gate)- but that’s about as much as establishing plantation-like control over player conduct than it did the act itself (regardless of whether or not it even happened).

    The NFL has obviously asked it’s own mouthpieces (Mort & Co. at ESPN, Nantz and other broadcasters) and it’s network partners (every American network) to discard the story as nonsense.

    Someone will keep digging though to make a name for themselves. And eventually everyone will be disappointed (including NE fans) when the dirty truth about HGH comes out.

  39. jayhawk6 says: Jan 5, 2016 12:13 PM

    Was Ari Fleischer using “news discretion” when commenting about weapons of mass destruction for Bush/Cheney?

  40. notmanning says: Jan 5, 2016 12:21 PM

    Patriots have a history of cheating, Manning does not. How hard is that to comprehend?

  41. hairpie2 says: Jan 5, 2016 12:25 PM

    notmanning says:
    Jan 5, 2016 12:21 PM
    Patriots have a history of cheating, Manning does not. How hard is that to comprehend?

    —————–

    Sure, but the same ones that have propagated cheating stories about one, are the same ones that are suppressing cheating stories about the other….. and have been suppressing them for over a decade.

  42. shayeezy says: Jan 5, 2016 12:26 PM

    jim nantz is a human toilet

  43. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 5, 2016 12:26 PM

    *

  44. senatorblutarsky says: Jan 5, 2016 12:32 PM

    Jim Nantz, Peyton Manning share an agent
    ___________________

    I thought that manning didn’t share anything. Greediest player ever. Money and personal records have always been paramount with him. I heard that he wouldn’t even share his HGH with his wife even though it came addressed to her.

  45. patfanken says: Jan 5, 2016 12:35 PM

    This is all so simple. The FACT that HGH was shipped to Manning’s house is NOT in dispute. Not even the Mannings and their proxies are denying that.

    So Manning doesn’t have to do anything more than explain why HGH was shipped to his wife, apparently without a doctor’s prescription.

    Until that time the media SHOULD be looking into this, as well as the rest of the players who were named. Otherwise it should be called what it is, a complete hypocrisy.

  46. senatorblutarsky says: Jan 5, 2016 12:36 PM

    Discretion is typically exercised more discreetly (sorry, I couldn’t think of another word).
    _____________________

    How about covertly?

  47. 12stabler2branch21 says: Jan 5, 2016 12:39 PM

    Nantz sucks…..2 spoiled assed fraternal brothers circling the wagons…..I guess ET (Manning) knew how important it was to put jim Nantz in a poopoo johns pizza ad.

  48. Hitdog18 says: Jan 5, 2016 12:42 PM

    This all fascinating, but the reason Manning is getting a pass and Brady is not isn’t because (sorry Pats fans) everyone hate and is jealous of NE (they do hate them and they are jealous, but that’s not WHY)….

    …it’s because the NFL does NOT want any light shed on the PED, HGH, equine steroid issue in it’s league – and neither does it’s owners (including Kraft).

    The league and it’s owners DID want to go after NE & Brady re: deflategate (ok, that was probably due to some jealousy and of course spy gate)- but that’s about as much as establishing plantation-like control over player conduct than it did the act itself (regardless of whether or not it even happened).

    The NFL has obviously asked it’s own mouthpieces (Mort & Co. at ESPN, Nantz and other broadcasters) and it’s network partners (every American network) to discard the story as nonsense.

    Someone will keep digging though to make a name for themselves. And eventually everyone will be disappointed (including NE fans) when the dirty truth about HGH comes out.
    ——————————————–

    Great point by you. I will also add that deflategate was the perfect distraction for Goodell, so that was all people talked about during SB week (and after) and not about Goodells mismanagement (concussions, Peterson, Rice, etc.) Deflategate could be played up as 1 bad player, as opposed to what this Manning story is focusing on, that everyone in the NFL is juicing. hell, Goodell even compared deflategate to steroid use, but now Peyton’s steroid use is a non story????

  49. cross300 says: Jan 5, 2016 12:43 PM

    This league loves their lovable loser Peyton. It’s shocking how this story has been swept under the rug. It shows what a huge double standard that exists.

  50. fredegrar says: Jan 5, 2016 12:44 PM

    fetts81 says:
    Jan 5, 2016 11:40 AM
    Look at the size of Peyton’s head!!! Look at his head when he was in college and look at his head now!!

    ——————————————————————-

    Okay, I looked. Only difference I see is he had more hair back in the day. Maybe people are getting confused between real Peyton pictures and his bobble-head dolls.

  51. senatorblutarsky says: Jan 5, 2016 12:45 PM

    pats777 says:
    Jan 5, 2016 11:29 AM

    Total BS. If Giselle was getting shipments, this would be headlining EVERY nightly news show for weeks.
    ___________________

    Shady Brady jock sniffers cry with their persecution complex on every article.

  52. milehipigskin says: Jan 5, 2016 12:45 PM

    cuda1234 says:
    Jan 5, 2016 11:30 AM

    Personally I think we need more people like Nantz. When did gossip and innuendo become a necessary part of sports, or even sports ‘journalism’?
    ==================================
    When Chris Mortensen and ESPN started reporting it.

  53. streetyson says: Jan 5, 2016 12:49 PM

    Peyton, was Ashley getting HGH shipped? If so, give the league a valid reason (a prescription or doctor’s letter will do) – failure to comply means it’s “more probable than not” you cheated.

  54. cross300 says: Jan 5, 2016 12:49 PM

    Patriots have a history of cheating, Manning does not. How hard is that to comprehend?
    __________________________________________
    Before you have a second offense you have to have a first. So we shouldn’t investigate because nothing has been found before? Do people even think before they start typing any more?

  55. lwstarr says: Jan 5, 2016 12:50 PM

    The bigger question that Nantz and Simms SHOULD have asked when Peyton came into the game is: Why would your wife have an illegally prescribed substance illegally shipped to your home(s) when you are a football player and know that it’s illegal in all circumstances?

    Explain that, media, Peyton, Ari. Anyone? Anyone?

  56. fireroger says: Jan 5, 2016 12:51 PM

    cuda1234 says:
    Jan 5, 2016 11:30 AM
    Personally I think we need more people like Nantz. When did gossip and innuendo become a necessary part of sports, or even sports ‘journalism’?
    =============
    AFCCG last year?

  57. infectorman says: Jan 5, 2016 12:53 PM

    Manning*

    We all know now that the QB that holds the record for the most TD’s in a single season in Tom Brady.

    Peyton Manning* = forever tarnished

  58. fireroger says: Jan 5, 2016 12:55 PM

    maestro1899 says:
    Jan 5, 2016 11:53 AM

    Does a football broadcast have the obligation to report every rumor?
    —————————————————————–
    We could ask ESPN but apparently they are still trying to figure out who fed them false PSI information from a year ago.

  59. RE LEE says: Jan 5, 2016 12:56 PM

    Maybe next time Brady will be treated by the media the same respectful way the media is treating Peyton now. Now we know the media is capable of discretion and can be called out if they viciously attack Brady again.
    Where are the football celebrities howling indignation and bawling their eyes out for the integrity of the game?

  60. fireroger says: Jan 5, 2016 12:57 PM

    Wonder if Manning gets 4 games for not turning over his phone to the NFL.

  61. streetyson says: Jan 5, 2016 1:00 PM

    notmanning says:
    Jan 5, 2016 12:21 PM
    Patriots have a history of cheating, Manning does not. How hard is that to comprehend?
    ——————–
    Pats are only “guilty” of one arguable difference in interpretation of revised camera placement rules at a 2007 home game against the Jets, rules which are in any case partly self-contradictory, and were not enforced against the Jets when at the previous game (also after the 2006 rule revision memo) the Jets did the same to the Pats. That’s it. By comparison, Manning has played his career for the most fined team in the league (Colts, not even counting fake crowd noise) followed by the biggest cheats in Super Bowl history (Broncos, twice fined a million, plus picks, for successive massive cap violations during their SB years).

  62. gambeast5533 says: Jan 5, 2016 1:04 PM

    I think there is a natural reason to tie any story about “cheating” into what happened with “Deflategate”. Just like you will refer back to Ray Rice for any suspension story from here on out.

    Brady was run railroaded for an equipment violation that no one could prove he had any part of. Do you know why they couldn’t prove it? Because he didn’t do it! It’s that simple. However, they are just going to kill this story dead in the water because it’s Peyton Manning?

    How is anyone else ever going to have a “history of cheating” if you kill all of the stories before they become stories? Do you really think that Belichick was the only one taping signals? Every QB prepares the football the way they like. Heck other players have come out (Jerry Rice) and admitted that they used illegal substances to pad their numbers (and he’s only the greatest WR of all time, right?). The hatered that people feel for the Pats is odd to me. Why such hatred for a team that has been so successful?

    When they finally come back to earth and start performing like an average team, maybe people will leave them alone. History should remember this team as one of the greatest of all time. They have earned it with all they have done.

  63. lemmetalkwouldya says: Jan 5, 2016 1:08 PM

    cuda1234 says:
    Jan 5, 2016 11:30 AM

    Personally I think we need more people like Nantz. When did gossip and innuendo become a necessary part of sports, or even sports ‘journalism’?
    ———————————————————
    Ooooooo, I don’t know …… maybe right around the time of “11 out of 12 footballs”????

    If only ESPN had extended the same due respect to Brady that everyone seems willing to extend Manning, what a different outcome “Deflategate” would have had.

  64. Treat manning like Brady says: Jan 5, 2016 1:20 PM

    From the Deflategate (aka framegate) handbook,

    If you’re innocent then why not just turn over your phone, or in this case, your medical records?

    Starting to get it yet?

  65. Treat manning like Brady says: Jan 5, 2016 1:24 PM

    Ever notice that when you ask for details on cheating by the Pats you never get an answer beyond taping location and an accusation of maybe knowing something about the air in footballs?

    Come on people, with all of this cheating it should be simple cut & paste at least 6 documented episodes of cheating. You know, like documented PED use or Salary Cap cheating.

  66. Treat manning like Brady says: Jan 5, 2016 1:25 PM

    gambeast5533 says:
    Jan 5, 2016 1:04 PM
    I think there is a natural reason to tie any story about “cheating” into what happened with “Deflategate”. Just like you will refer back to Ray Rice for any suspension story from here on out.

    Brady was run railroaded for an equipment violation that no one could prove he had any part of. Do you know why they couldn’t prove it? Because he didn’t do it! It’s that simple. However, they are just going to kill this story dead in the water because it’s Peyton Manning?

    How is anyone else ever going to have a “history of cheating” if you kill all of the stories before they become stories? Do you really think that Belichick was the only one taping signals? Every QB prepares the football the way they like. Heck other players have come out (Jerry Rice) and admitted that they used illegal substances to pad their numbers (and he’s only the greatest WR of all time, right?). The hatered that people feel for the Pats is odd to me. Why such hatred for a team that has been so successful?

    When they finally come back to earth and start performing like an average team, maybe people will leave them alone. History should remember this team as one of the greatest of all time. They have earned it with all they have done.

    Problem is too many people are still hung up on the Tuck Rule.

  67. samadams14 says: Jan 5, 2016 2:16 PM

    HELLO, FRIENDS!!!

    Jim Nantz here!

  68. gambeast5533 says: Jan 5, 2016 2:24 PM

    Treat manning like Brady says:
    Jan 5, 2016 1:25 PM

    Problem is too many people are still hung up on the Tuck Rule.

    How are the Pats to blame for that? That was the refs call completely. And, according to the rule, it looked like the right call. That had nothing to do with Brady or the Pats. I remember watching that game thinking, like the rest of the nation that the Pats were done. Every team has bad calls go against them. They also benefit from bad calls. That’s just how it goes in the NFL. The people who hold it against the Pats are just bitter.

  69. brian91388 says: Jan 5, 2016 2:26 PM

    I think Peyton had a general awareness of HGH in his house. I think it’s more probable than not Peyton used HGH than his wife. I don’t think an NFL quarterback would have HGH delivered to his house unless he told people to get it.

    See how that line of logic works, anti-Pats fans?

  70. j0esixpack says: Jan 5, 2016 2:36 PM

    notmanning says: Patriots have a history of cheating, Manning does not. How hard is that to comprehend?
    ——————————————

    Pretty hard for some apparently – though it’s tough for most NFL fans to comprehend that signal stealing remains legal – hence why ALL coordinators still cover their mouths

    With Framegate now debunked given the NFL’s admission they have no evidence and don’t believe the Laws of Physics apply to them all one has is Spygate

    Spygate is of course when the Patriots broke a new 2006 rule in 2007 which stated that signal filming cameras can no longer be on the sidelines but must be in the stands – a minor rule violation that had no impact on half a game

    Some fans are so dumb they think that the Pats 2001-2004 Super Bowls are invalid because of a rule that didn’t exist until 2006

    It’s tough not to feel superior when dealing with idiots like that

  71. j0esixpack says: Jan 5, 2016 2:42 PM

    Most fans also refuse to acknowledge that the Tuck Rule was affirmed as called correctly in 2001 and it remained unchanged until 2014 – so that was NOT a rule violation either

    The Broncos of course have a LONG history of cheating with their current President, John Elway, being the one who helped violate the salary cap in their two Super Bowl wins

    That remains the largest financial penalty in the history of the NFL even today

    The question of whether Elway or others on the team were “generally aware” of Manning’s activities is one that needs to be investigated too

    Thus the Patriots “long history” of cheating involves one minor rule violation that Roger over-reacted to since most ignorant fans didn’t realize that signal filming is the norm in the NFL as it is in Baseball as well (where of course pitchers are adept at throwing Vaseline balls etc. too)

  72. jasonculhane says: Jan 5, 2016 2:46 PM

    Guy has 4 neck surgeries…can’t take GH during an off season..unacceptable and deserves an asterisk

    Guy deflates balls during outdoor games, video tapes opponents walk throughs, defenses, gets 4 rings from it…acceptable, no asterisk.

    Sincerely
    Pats fan

  73. Treat manning like Brady says: Jan 5, 2016 2:54 PM

    gambeast5533 says:
    Jan 5, 2016 2:24 PM
    Treat manning like Brady says:
    Jan 5, 2016 1:25 PM

    Problem is too many people are still hung up on the Tuck Rule.

    How are the Pats to blame for that? That was the refs call completely. And, according to the rule, it looked like the right call. That had nothing to do with Brady or the Pats. I remember watching that game thinking, like the rest of the nation that the Pats were done. Every team has bad calls go against them. They also benefit from bad calls. That’s just how it goes in the NFL. The people who hold it against the Pats are just bitter

    They aren’t to blame. I was just pointing out how some can hang onto bad intel for so long they begin to believe it.

  74. williamannand says: Jan 5, 2016 3:06 PM

    I’ve always enjoyed Jim Nantz’s work, particularly how he never intrudes on what is unfolding on the field. It’s not an easy partnership working with a know-it-all analyst who prefaces most of his comments with “Listen!”

    This article strikes me as legal grunt research one would expect to be paid for by someone with an ax to grind.

  75. torebear says: Jan 5, 2016 3:07 PM

    Another issue that is likely to affect reporting is the fact that they are part of the same “Clan”. Players and ex players. Simms likely knows a lot about doping. Perhaps not him self, but former teammates.

    It’s likely a code of conduct for NFL players. Kind of like the code of Omerta in cycling. Ie don’t talk about fight club.

    You could probably talk to Rodney Harrison about it in the studio and you would find him being very reluctant to talk, even off the record.

    After looking at his wikipedia page, he should have a very good idea about mail order HGH from anti aging clinics.

  76. chawk12thman says: Jan 5, 2016 3:19 PM

    I have to be honest; I did miss the fact that they overlooked the story during the broadcast……However, in my defense; I was so tired of hearing about it that if there wasn’t new information, I might have tuned it out anyway……..

    Clearly, the failure to mention the scandal as it relates to distraction to the locker room and to Peyton’s overall performance was a mistake and should have been reported.

  77. deanblandino says: Jan 5, 2016 3:24 PM

    Guy has 4 neck surgeries…can’t take GH during an off season..unacceptable and deserves an asterisk

    -HGH is acceptable now that Peyton Manning did it hypocrites

  78. deanblandino says: Jan 5, 2016 3:25 PM

    Guy deflates balls during outdoor games, video tapes opponents walk throughs, defenses, gets 4 rings from it…acceptable, no asterisk.

    -Sincerely, people who don’t have the internet

  79. deanblandino says: Jan 5, 2016 3:27 PM

    You could probably talk to Rodney Harrison about it in the studio and you would find him being very reluctant to talk, even off the record.

    Rodney Harrison openly admits he used hgh to overcome a devastating knee injury. Not like a quick google search would tell you that though.

    PM: Deny Deny Accuse

  80. torebear says: Jan 5, 2016 5:09 PM

    @deanblandino:
    I think you will likely find that it’s only part of the story. You see getting medicine to cure your ailments is allowed in most sports to some degree. The problem is when the medicines are not documented to be effective or standard treatment for such injuries.

    In WADA parlance they have something called Theraputic use exemptions with a board of doctors approving applications for drug use.

    If he needed the HGH to recover from knee injury I don’t think getting HGH “more than once” online with an illegal prescription provided by a doctor associated with the Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center is a sensible treatment.

    It’s very sensible if you are using it as part of a program to remain competitive though.

    But that is still doping.

  81. j0esixpack says: Jan 5, 2016 5:54 PM

    That’s probably DeanBlandino for real as he doesn’t know what the word “retract” means when it was confirmed the “walk through” story was erroneous

    He still probably thinks the ESPN “11 of 12” report is real too!

    Heck – he doesn’t even know that air loses pressure in the cold – as even the Colts footballs were under 12.5 psi

    Guys like that make even regular people feel like geniuses

    I’d feel pretty superior debating that guy but that’s just because I passed 7th grade science

  82. TheWizard says: Jan 5, 2016 6:19 PM

    Was Ari Fleischer using “news discretion” when commenting about weapons of mass destruction for Bush/Cheney?

    Every major intelligence agency in the world thought he had WMD. That’s because Saddam wanted everybody to think so. He had some of his own generals believing in it.

    Most big time democrats voted in favor of the war. And they did indeed find many components of WMD in the country.

    I’ve read volumes on this in recent years. The information is out there.

  83. dirtdawg54 says: Jan 5, 2016 6:44 PM

    If Jim Nantz had an opportunity to interview Adolf Hitler he would ask him how he does such a fine job of maintaining his moustache.

  84. Treat manning like Brady says: Jan 6, 2016 1:33 PM

    senatorblutarsky says:
    Jan 5, 2016 12:45 PM
    pats777 says:
    Jan 5, 2016 11:29 AM

    Total BS. If Giselle was getting shipments, this would be headlining EVERY nightly news show for weeks.
    ___________________

    Shady Brady jock sniffers cry with their persecution complex on every article.

    Probably had something to do with endless comments that he cheated when there’s no hard evidence.

    But nice to see that there’s a whole new group of what you politely refer to as “jock sniffers” ready to take a hit for a guy who is the quintessential poster boy for probable HGH use.

  85. Treat manning like Brady says: Jan 6, 2016 1:36 PM

    Last year we were entertained by the suggestion that an innocent man would gladly turn over his personal information to prove his innocence.

    Those same folks now have a different take on the concept of honesty.
    I wonder why that is?

  86. jasonculhane says: Jan 6, 2016 2:57 PM

    Dean Blandino is an idiot..

    Sincerely
    Tom Brady and Rodney Harrison

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