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Two athletes not named Peyton Manning sue Al Jazeera

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Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning hasn’t decided whether to sue Al Jazeera for its report that his wife, Ashley, received HGH on multiple occasions, with the clear implication that it was intended not for use by her but by him. Two other athletes named in the report have filed suit.

As first reported by Diana Moskovitz of Deadspin, Phillies first baseman Ryan Howard (pictured) and Nationals first baseman Ryan Zimmerman have sued Al Jazeera, reporter Deborah Davies, and undercover operative Liam Collins for libel and invasion of privacy.

Via Nicki Jhabvala of the Denver Post, former White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said Tuesday that Manning still plans to make a decision of his own on litigation after the season ends.

Four important factors remain, for any athletes deciding to sue over the allegations in the Al Jazeera documentary titled The Dark Side. First, because professional athletes are public figures, they must prove that Al Jazeera acted with “actual malice.” More specifically, they must prove that Al Jazeera knew the information being published was false, or that Al Jazeera acted with reckless disregard to the truth or falsity of the content of the story.

Second, the athletes must brace for the inevitable probing into their personal lives for any and all evidence that can be used against them at trial. A defamation lawsuit seeks compensation for damages to the plaintiff’s reputation; a jury can’t assess that harm without knowing the pre-existing reputation — which becomes a green light for a Seinfeld finale-style parade of evidence aimed at making the plaintiff look as bad as possible.

Third, fighting the allegations in court gives them notoriety and longevity. It’s a phenomenon known in Internet parlance as the Streisand Effect; in 2003, Barbra Streisand sued over photos posted online of her California home. The mere filing of the lawsuit resulted in thousands of people who previously weren’t aware of the photos finding them online.

Fourth, denying the allegations via litigation becomes challenge to the defendant (and anyone else) to prove that the allegations are true. Also on Tuesday, Michael Powell of the New York Times released an article connecting the dots from unwitting Al Jazeera source Charles Sly to a fitness trainer named Jason Riley, who together founded a supplement company named Elementz Nutrition. According to Powell, Zimmerman is featured on the company’s website, and Howard appears on the company’s Facebook page.

Powell also reports that in the aftermath of the Al Jazeera report and Sly’s hostage-video recanting of the things he said when he didn’t know he was being recorded by Collins, Elementz Nutrition went out of business.

Look for plenty of additional dots to be connected within the context of the lawsuit filed by Howard and Zimmerman. And look for the detail-oriented Manning to consider this angle and all others before necessarily surrendering control of the situation by filing a lawsuit against Al Jazeera and/or anyone else.

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113 Responses to “Two athletes not named Peyton Manning sue Al Jazeera”
  1. myspaceyourface says: Jan 6, 2016 10:09 AM

    No need to rush in. Let the first lawsuit flush out the facts. If he truly is innocent he can add his name at any time.

  2. redrew says: Jan 6, 2016 10:12 AM

    Let’s not overlook forehead growth…..it’s frightening

  3. deflatedfootballs says: Jan 6, 2016 10:13 AM

    oh lord.. as public figures they have a hard time to win.. and they are suing a news entity? If they don’t win ( which they will not) they will be suspended because the court will just agree with the report.. Don’t think Manning wanna risk that.

  4. falsehopenow says: Jan 6, 2016 10:18 AM

    It will get very warm in the Manning household if/when the Feds investigate the HGH “prescriptions” and the nature of the illness associated with the aforementioned.

  5. weepingjebus says: Jan 6, 2016 10:18 AM

    “Yeah, and I saw him after that first surgery, this neck surgery, and I was pretty much convinced that he was done. There was no way he could come back and play football. That first time he went and we were just throwing it in the backyard of our house. We’re throwing 15 yards away, and it was a lob. He couldn’t throw 15 yards on a line. It had no pop. I was like, I mean – he wanted to come back and play football, and I didn’t think it would happen.” — Eli Manning

  6. jag1959 says: Jan 6, 2016 10:19 AM

    Can’t help but wonder if the suits aren’t designed to draw retractions or present the right amount of outrage from an image perspective rather than actually destined to ever see the inside of a courtroom.

  7. dcpatfan says: Jan 6, 2016 10:21 AM

    He threw you under the Bus Ashley….cooperate now!

  8. bannedfromchoirpractice says: Jan 6, 2016 10:22 AM

    This is an obvious attempt by Manning to redirect attention from his HGH (huge giant head) to the lawsuit.

  9. infectorman says: Jan 6, 2016 10:30 AM

    Ohhh Boy.

    There is ALOT of smoke here. Jeter the Cheater?
    Just rolls off the tongue. Oh, consider the New York Yankee domino effect.

    Connect the dots people, Peyton cheated.
    His overzealous, false outrage ain’t foolin’ anyone….anyone with a brain, that is…

  10. In Teddy We Trust says: Jan 6, 2016 10:35 AM

    Ryan Howard would never cheat.

    – Aaron Rodgers

  11. getaclue12 says: Jan 6, 2016 10:35 AM

    Manning isn’t going to sue because he took HGH

  12. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 6, 2016 10:38 AM

    PEDton*

  13. scrp2 says: Jan 6, 2016 10:38 AM

    You gotta commend Alfonso Jazeera for having the stones to go against the corporate juggernaut Peyton Manning.

    “with lawsuits only lawyers get paid” (sung in Nationwide tune)

  14. Remember when PFT was about football? Now its just a bunch of whiney losers who cry about the Patriots says: Jan 6, 2016 10:41 AM

    Would be foolish to file a law suit when the allegations are true. Look at Lance Armstrong…

  15. gimmeabruschi says: Jan 6, 2016 10:42 AM

    Manning’s hopes that after vehement denials this would just go away are dashed.

  16. captainwhodat says: Jan 6, 2016 10:43 AM

    echoes from the past…baseball players threatening to sue over illegal substance accusations…

  17. Remember when PFT was about football? Now its just a bunch of whiney losers who cry about the Patriots says: Jan 6, 2016 10:46 AM

    Remember when Rodney Harrison took HGH to recover from his knee injury? He was destroyed by fans as a cheater. Now, those same fans are saying things like, it wasn’t when he was playing so who cares? (Rodney took it when he wasn’t playing as well and everyone cared, so there is that). There wasn’t a test for it so it wasn’t banned, blah blah blah. All that argument does is favor Harrison more, since, you know, he took it 4 years before Manning did.

    But the one thing that really makes me chuckle, Rodney Harrison had it sent to Rodney Harrison, at Rodney Harrison’s address. He didn’t have it sent to his wife at various addresses through out the country like a d-bag. If you are gonna cheat, don’t bring your wife into it… And then give us this lame moral outrage, “how dare they bring my wife into this…” after, you know, you brought your wife into it by putting her name on the package…

  18. imodan says: Jan 6, 2016 10:48 AM

    I have one question for all those who pooh pooh’d AJ as a non credible news source. Is the New York Times also non credible? I love that there are others starting to poke around and finding little nuggets pointing to the possibility that AJ got it 100% right.

  19. factman66 says: Jan 6, 2016 10:48 AM

    Hey NE,

    Cheater tears you taste so gooood
    (Nationwide jingle style)

  20. jackbassett says: Jan 6, 2016 10:49 AM

    deflatedfootballs | Jan 6, 2016, 10:13 AM EST

    oh lord.. as public figures they have a hard time to win.. and they are suing a news entity? If they don’t win ( which they will not) they will be suspended because the court will just agree with the report.. Don’t think Manning wanna risk that.

    ————-

    The court won’t agree with or disagree with the report. In other words, they won’t draw a conclusion whether or not HGH was used. They will evaluate whether Al Jezeera, the reporter and/or the undercover operative engaged in libel and invasion of privacy. Sure, the legal proceedings might reveal evidence of HGH use, which the NFL could consider, but the court won’t make a legal determination that the players, in fact, used HGH.

  21. paulrevereshorse1775 says: Jan 6, 2016 10:49 AM

    this should be entertaining

  22. futures44 says: Jan 6, 2016 10:49 AM

    Manning knows his wife will be questioned. Remember all the other athletes that denied using HGH. Shipments came to Rodney Harrison’s house, and like a man, he admitted using to help recover from Injury. Eli knows there was know other way that Peyton could come back. NFL Hypocrisy if this were Brady,Newton, or Rodgers they would be all over this. There are only 3 reasons to use HGH . Hiv Virus, Short Bowel Syndrome, Pituitary problems. A pregnant women ASHLEY would never ever be advised to take HGH.

  23. solo681 says: Jan 6, 2016 10:52 AM

    Goodel ( NYC NFL ) spent more then $5 MILLION on an investigation into 0.5 psi of air that Goodel said “was equal to PED use”.

    So now we have Manning implicated in ACTUAL PED use and – not a peep from Goodel or the NYC NFL office.
    ESPN Mortensen where are you ???
    USA TODAY ???

    ANYONE ???

  24. jasoncnz says: Jan 6, 2016 10:52 AM

    I honestly don’t care if he did take it tbh. The quote from Eli says it all. This was a guy who didn’t know if we would ever have normal use of his arm again, let alone play football. There isn’t a person alive who wouldn’t have done whatever they had to just to try and get back to normal again. There is a HUGE difference between someone who is facing the possibility of being permanently disabled and then takes something to try and get better vs someone who is 100% healthy and then takes something to try and get 120% in order to gain a competitive advantage. A HUGE DIFFERENCE!

  25. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 6, 2016 10:53 AM

    Manning had 4 neck surgeries and came back to throw what, 50 TDs the next year ?

    And people really think he wasn’t using ?

    Of course he was. But the league and bspn don’t want their boy outed so they’re burying it.

  26. Youknowimright says: Jan 6, 2016 10:54 AM

    3 guys with lots of injuries, who are aging rapidly, and trying to hold onto past glory. Yeah, I agree they probably didn’t take HGH.

    They all used and why not if it helps them heal and is under doctor’s supervision.

  27. starrfavrerodgers says: Jan 6, 2016 10:55 AM

    Craig Calcaterra at the sister site HardballTalk has a pretty good (arguably better) write up from another (arguably better) former lawyer who has represented clients on both sides of a defamation lawsuit when he practiced law. It’s a pretty good read.

  28. luther6 says: Jan 6, 2016 10:56 AM

    Too bad the Qatari have infinite reserves of cash (from Western petrol addiction) to pay their lawyers.

  29. tajuara says: Jan 6, 2016 11:03 AM

    So now we have Manning implicated in ACTUAL PED use and – not a peep from Goodel or the NYC NFL office.
    ESPN Mortensen where are you ???
    USA TODAY ???

    ANYONE ???
    —————————————————–

    Is HGH a PED? I am not so sure about that one.

  30. imodan says: Jan 6, 2016 11:09 AM

    jasoncnz says:
    Jan 6, 2016 10:52 AM

    I honestly don’t care if he did take it tbh. The quote from Eli says it all. This was a guy who didn’t know if we would ever have normal use of his arm again, let alone play football. There isn’t a person alive who wouldn’t have done whatever they had to just to try and get back to normal again. There is a HUGE difference between someone who is facing the possibility of being permanently disabled and then takes something to try and get better vs someone who is 100% healthy and then takes something to try and get 120% in order to gain a competitive advantage. A HUGE DIFFERENCE!
    —————————————————-
    Well, except for the little fact that they are illegal.

  31. futures44 says: Jan 6, 2016 11:09 AM

    Of Course HGH is a PED. No testing for HGH in the NFL. That’s why cheaters take it instead of Steroids. HGH used by almost all BodyBuilders.

  32. streetyson says: Jan 6, 2016 11:10 AM

    If Peyton is innocent he doesn’t need to sue and have his whole life raked (including his teabagging or sexual assault of a female trainer) he just needs to publicly deny Ashley ever received HGH and challenge anyone to prove it – OR explain what Ashley was getting the HGH for exactly.

  33. imodan says: Jan 6, 2016 11:11 AM

    tajuara says:
    Jan 6, 2016 11:03 AM

    So now we have Manning implicated in ACTUAL PED use and – not a peep from Goodel or the NYC NFL office.
    ESPN Mortensen where are you ???
    USA TODAY ???

    ANYONE ???
    —————————————————–

    Is HGH a PED? I am not so sure about that one.
    —————————————————–
    If you can’t perform before taking HGH and can after wouldn’t you say that’s the definition of a performance enhancer? Also, HGH is a banned substance in the NFL.

  34. solo681 says: Jan 6, 2016 11:12 AM

    tajuara says:
    Jan 6, 2016 11:03 AM

    Is HGH a PED? I am not so sure about that one.
    =======================================

    Under NFL Rules: HGH is included along with PED’s.

    Now, if the report implicated Brady – You would be screaming cheater at the top of your lungs.

  35. Remember when PFT was about football? Now its just a bunch of whiney losers who cry about the Patriots says: Jan 6, 2016 11:14 AM

    jasoncnz says:
    Jan 6, 2016 10:52 AM

    I honestly don’t care if he did take it tbh. The quote from Eli says it all. This was a guy who didn’t know if we would ever have normal use of his arm again, let alone play football. There isn’t a person alive who wouldn’t have done whatever they had to just to try and get back to normal again. There is a HUGE difference between someone who is facing the possibility of being permanently disabled and then takes something to try and get better vs someone who is 100% healthy and then takes something to try and get 120% in order to gain a competitive advantage. A HUGE DIFFERENCE!
    =========================

    I get the point, but its still against the rules. You are arguing that there is “A HUGE DIFFERENCE” between a homeless guy robbing a bank to feed his family and a millionaire robbing a bank. Its the same crime. Whatever Manning’s reason for taking it, doesn’t make it more illegal or less illegal. Integrity of the game is paramount, right? If Manning couldn’t do it naturally, he shouldn’t have been playing. Period. There is no moral justification for violating the rules. Do I care if he did it? Not really, I don’t. But the people that lost their minds over Brady and deflategate are silent about Manning. I find that very disturbing

  36. jrossizzle says: Jan 6, 2016 11:14 AM

    I’m confused, why 5 year later with this info?

  37. solo681 says: Jan 6, 2016 11:18 AM

    I hope, for the sake of Goodel’s INTEGRITY, that if Manning took HGH, then the Broncos 1st & 2nd Round Picks be given to the PATRIOTS.

    My own personal view on HGH is that the NFL should allow INJURED players to take it under the supervison of the NFL and that the Player cannot play until that Player has healed and is no longer taking the HGH.

    HGH is not a Steroid and is a valuable & safe healing prescription for seriously hurt athletes.

  38. chrisk61 says: Jan 6, 2016 11:20 AM

    howard stinks. he actually took PUDs…performance UN-ENHANCING drugs

    wait til he gets completely exposed during the discovery process. a fitting end to a bum who stole 100 + mill from the Phillies.

    phillies fans will always remember howard:

    1. striking out looking to end 2010 nlcs vs SF
    2. hitting a dribbler and crumbling on the base path to end 2011 nlds vs STL

  39. charger383 says: Jan 6, 2016 11:21 AM

    should be covered by insurance for rest of us

  40. streetyson says: Jan 6, 2016 11:23 AM

    tajuara says:
    Jan 6, 2016 11:03 AM
    Is HGH a PED? I am not so sure about that one.
    ——————-
    So you can’t be bothered to check but can be bothered to spend as much time posting a comment? Until you look it up you’ll just have to take my view – HGH is against the rules, it can be used in various ways, such as speeding up injury recovery, and as such can artificially improve a player’s overall game. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY it can also be used to artificially enhance a player’s physique, such as increased muscle mass & recovery, and decreased fat, like an anabolic steroid (with which it is often used together by bodybuilders and more physical sports). So yes it is a PED.

  41. bhtwins says: Jan 6, 2016 11:23 AM

    Most stories are missing this piece of information.

    The Denver Post called Sly’s school in Arizona. He was a first year pharmacy student in 2011 and as such would not have been eligible to intern. Their words were he was very likely an intern in 2013 as a final year student, not 2011 as a first year.

    To me, this with the fact that Sly and Guyer have both said he wasn’t even there in 2011 but 2013 make the story questionable. He clearly never met him like he says in the video.

    Flip side, what if Ashley Manning took HGH on her own to feel better or look younger and it had nothing to do with Peyton. There are tons of women who do that very thing. Its grey area illegal to take HGH for that but there are hundreds of anti-aging clinics around the country that skirt that. I’ve seen tons of stories about active women who have taken HGH for a short period after a difficult pregnancy to cheer up, firm up and get their energy back.

    Manning is also among the smartest people in sports and probably has the best representation in sports. There are hundreds of ways he could have answered this without coming close to outright lying. He very clearly stated he never used HGH or other PED and never took drugs intended for his wife. Were he guilty, I would of expected a more finely parsed public statement to avoid that trap.

    So, my gut feeling, Ashley Manning took HGH after delivering twins. That doesn’t make her any different than 100’s of other women except her husband happens to be a pro football player.

  42. codythao35 says: Jan 6, 2016 11:24 AM

    Let me guess, it’s Clay Mathew and Julius Pepper of the Packers. Lol

  43. patfanken says: Jan 6, 2016 11:25 AM

    this isn’t about blame or whether Manning was wrong in taking the drug….if he actually took the drug. In fact Al Jazera never claims he took the drug, only that it was shipped to his wife. This is a fact the Manning’s don’t deny.

    It is an established FACT that HGH was shipped to the Manning household. Now it is incumbent upon Manning to explain WHY.

    Now Brady’s case is different. We know for a fact that Brady was railroaded. There WAS no tampering of equipment. There WAS lies and misinformation that came out of the NFL offices. We know for a FACT that there was malicious intent.

    Defamation is not easy to win, but this looks like a slam dunk if Brady decides to go ahead with it. The ONLY question is if he wants to put his family through the dirty tricks the NFL will inevitably resort to in order to protect their corrupt and toxic reign.

    Personally I hope he does it because it would FINALLY expose how deep the corruption runs at 353 Park Ave, but I would understand why he wouldn’t.

  44. imodan says: Jan 6, 2016 11:27 AM

    “HGH is not a Steroid and is a valuable & safe healing prescription for seriously hurt athletes.”
    ——————————————————
    Says who? If it’s such a wonder drug why is it not allowed to be prescribed off label and federally restricted to 3 specific uses? The way pharmaceuticals are handled in this country the idea is to push them out to everyone possible. I find it interesting that HGH is so very restricted. Of course now that I think about it if this HGH cure’s so many things imagine the lost revenue on all those other drugs. Hummmmm, interesting indeed.

  45. bushwoodcc says: Jan 6, 2016 11:31 AM

    solo681 says:
    Jan 6, 2016 11:18 AM
    I hope, for the sake of Goodel’s INTEGRITY, that if Manning took HGH, then the Broncos 1st & 2nd Round Picks be given to the PATRIOTS.

    My own personal view on HGH is that the NFL should allow INJURED players to take it under the supervison of the NFL and that the Player cannot play until that Player has healed and is no longer taking the HGH.

    HGH is not a Steroid and is a valuable & safe healing prescription for seriously hurt athletes.
    ________________________________________

    But using it for those purposes is illegal in the US. Personally I believe the NFL wants this to go away not because of Peyton, but becasue if you peel back the onion on this one you’ll eventually find that the NFL has known about, and tacitly condoned, HGH to get starts back on the field faster.

  46. jppsblownofffingers says: Jan 6, 2016 11:32 AM

    Wow I read these comments and can’t believe what idiots exist in this world. Who cares if he took it. There’s not one person here that wouldn’t of taken it and if you say your wouldn’t have you’re a liar. He did what he had to do to live a normal life and get back to his job. All you soap box standing hypocrites make me laugh. We need to stop demonizing medicine and chemicals that can help the human body. So enough of all your fake outrage and criticism. Y’all are prob the same nit wits that go home and drink yourself to sleep or roll a fatty to deal with your miserable lives. Smh

  47. bhtwins says: Jan 6, 2016 11:33 AM

    There is no fact it was shipped to Manning’s house. There is an allegation…by a pretty questionable source.

    Where is this fact? Who said that? Give me a link where there is any idependent verification that HGH went to the Manning household.

  48. t38267 says: Jan 6, 2016 11:37 AM

    What I don’t get is: how is it defaming someone to say that HGH was delivered to his wife? Yes, OTHERS will jump to conclusions from that. But why is that the “fault” of the journalist?

    Also, truth is an absolute defense to defamation. So if the fact that HGH was delivered to Ashley is true, then Al Jazerra wins, even if the implication others jump to is false.

  49. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 6, 2016 11:39 AM

    “There is a HUGE difference between someone who is facing the possibility of being permanently disabled and then takes something to try and get better vs someone who is 100% healthy and then takes something to try and get 120% in order to gain a competitive advantage. A HUGE DIFFERENCE!”

    No there’s not. That’s called a double standard. HGH is illegal. Its defined as a PED. Taking it is cheating per the league.

    Therefore the reason why you take it is immaterial. And the double standard means that any complaints about any other player using PEDs that you have are meaningless.

  50. savethenflfirerogergoodell says: Jan 6, 2016 11:45 AM

    HGH-Gate

    So Peyton had neck surgery
    Attended the Geyer Clinic
    His WIFE walks away with an HGH prescription
    Then Peyton majically goes on to have the best year of his career

    And we should all believe its a “non-story”???

    Right…

    Peyton is a total Cheater!

  51. contract says: Jan 6, 2016 11:48 AM

    Libel AND invasion of privacy? So they absolutely didn’t cheat … but if they did it should be protected information?

  52. BobbyHanks63 says: Jan 6, 2016 11:55 AM

    Unfortunately for him.. Manning fits the profile of someone would use HGH because he obviously was in tough shape and was physically deteriorating at the time.

    He went overseas to seek alternative treatment and the fact that he went from feeble to a record breaking season when he got back is a slam dunk for those who don’t believe him. Add in his wives’ reluctance to give a believable and medical reason that sounds reasonable does even more to create doubt. How many of us have heard that women use this stuff? None I have ever heard.

    The MLB players have very rarely ever admitted they took the performance enhancing HGH because it virtually eliminates them for Hall of Fame consideration. The same is true with Manning.

    Then the hypocrisy of the silence of the NFL over this issue, when compared to last year at this time they were doing all they could to upset Tom Brady and the Patriot’s preparation for the SuperBowl which is in itself unconscionable, when you consider they were talking about air in a football that we all know now except for the sicko haters was all bulls–t.

    Now Manning is preparing for the SuperBowl and what do we here from the NFL or Commissioner Goodell…..Not a peep. At least we should have heard by now “That is was more likely than not, that Manning used HGH because he had much more of a reason than letting air out of a football. The hypocrisy of the leadership of the NFL and the press except in this case PFT who is casting a bit of doubt, are sitting on their hands taking the proof he did it attitude, instead of the prove you didn’t when dealing with Brady.

    The NFL needs to get rid of the hypocrisy, dishonest and discriminating way they treat certain individuals and favor others. The leadership in of the NFL. if it continues will quite possibly ruin this league. Their anti-trust exemption should be stripped. Right now the league holds a virtual monopoly in pro football and without competition it is unlikely to change.

  53. smokehouse56 says: Jan 6, 2016 11:55 AM

    Ryan Howard has always been a class act for the Phillies. And he is not a cheater.

  54. brintfatre says: Jan 6, 2016 12:00 PM

    Manning is a cheater and Jim Nance should be fired.

  55. whispersd says: Jan 6, 2016 12:00 PM

    Given how ESPN, CBS, and the other networks are lining up behind him, it’s hard to see Manning joining the lawsuit. At this point he’s got people rallying to his side. And if this lawsuit succeeds, he’ll get the benefit anyway, even if he doesn’t join. (He doesn’t care about the monetary reward.)

    OTOH, if Manning were to join the lawsuit, he’d have to deal with the negatives of facing far more intense scrutiny that the media is giving him. I don’t see him joining in here.

    For Howard, who’s been plagued by rumors like this for years, this will be a good opportunity for a “once and for all” lawsuit.

  56. whispersd says: Jan 6, 2016 12:03 PM

    “The NFL needs to get rid of the hypocrisy, dishonest and discriminating way they treat certain individuals and favor others.”

    I agree completely, but it’s not going to happen. It’s not in Goodell’s nature. He’s a weasel and will always be a weasel.

    “The leadership in of the NFL. if it continues will quite possibly ruin this league.”

    If only the owners agreed with us. But it seems like they have the commissioner they want. Even Bob Kraft won’t go against him directly.

  57. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 6, 2016 12:03 PM

    So it seems PEDton’s buddy Charlie Sly’s business Elementz Nutrition suddenly closed its doors last week.

    This story gets better and better!

  58. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 6, 2016 12:05 PM

    PEDton* might as well have no records. I will never acknowledge them as legit again.

    #cheater
    #tarnishedLegacy

  59. scw1993 says: Jan 6, 2016 12:25 PM

    “Then the hypocrisy of the silence of the NFL over this issue, when compared to last year at this time they were doing all they could to upset Tom Brady and the Patriot’s preparation for the SuperBowl which is in itself unconscionable, when you consider they were talking about air in a football that we all know now except for the sicko haters was all bulls–t.”

    =========================

    This is bingo. A year later, the G.O.A.T. is still being raked over the coals for doing nothing, and not word one from Goodell about Manning’s possible usage of a prohibited substance. Where’s the fairness, and the integrity now?

    Unfortunately, Manning appears to be untouchable. Actually, he sounded just like Lance Armstrong, with his bs denials….then he finally came clean years later. Manning has enough money to buy a small country….not believing his wife had to receive these substances from a clinic/institution, rather than her own topnotch ob/gyn.

  60. bhtwins says: Jan 6, 2016 12:25 PM

    Crazy bunch of posters here.

    Its like any defense of Manning is anti-Brady.

    I think they both are more likely than not innocent. I think Mortensen should absolutely walk back his statements from last January in the nature of good journalism.

    I think that while Al Jazeera is generally a solid news source that this documentary was poorly done, poorly sourced and poorly defended. Its like they dropped a bomb, denied it was a bomb and now expect everyone else to clean up the mess.

    There is no chance than any person going to court over this can prove actual malice. Its a waste of time.

  61. patriotsticketssince1978 says: Jan 6, 2016 12:29 PM

    It’s interesting that so many people think that HGH is harmless and can only help people who desire to take it for indications other than it’s legal uses.

    The reasons it is classified as a drug that can’t be prescribed off-label are essentially two-fold.

    1) It was linked to a higher incidence of Creutzfeld-Jakob disease in clinical trials. CJD is a fatal brain disorder.

    2) It is a drug that is often abused.

    There are other reasons people develop CJD and there are other drugs that are often abused. This doesn’t change the facts about HGH however.

  62. billswillnevermove says: Jan 6, 2016 12:31 PM

    weepingjebus says:Jan 6, 2016 10:18 AM

    “Yeah, and I saw him after that first surgery, this neck surgery, and I was pretty much convinced that he was done. There was no way he could come back and play football. That first time he went and we were just throwing it in the backyard of our house. We’re throwing 15 yards away, and it was a lob. He couldn’t throw 15 yards on a line. It had no pop. I was like, I mean – he wanted to come back and play football, and I didn’t think it would happen.” — Eli Manning
    __________________________________
    “Well, I’ll tell you, I’m just amazed. “I accidentally picked up Tom Brady’s helmet and the coaches kept right on speaking to him after the 15 second cutoff, right up until we snapped the ball”. The voice in Tom Brady’s helmet was explaining the exact defense he was about to face”

    _ Doug Flutie

  63. thejetssuck2001 says: Jan 6, 2016 12:35 PM

    the bottom line for me is this explains alot. nobody wants to believe someone cheated, but if you can equate the most successful qb ever owing his entire career to a 0.5 of psi (w no evidence mind u), then the fact that manning wasnt even able to get pop on a 15 yard pass (per his brother Eli’s statement) then a few months later was able to assemble a 55 td season in pro football speaks volumes. if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat, its usually a rat!! i firmly believe peyton used HGH. I also want to say, if humans are willing to use their body as an experiment to see what the limits if any are, and its for entertainment purposes like the NFL is, whats the harm? lets see whats possible with hgh, steroids etc. i dont care. im not gonna use them myself but if someone wants it that badly, let them go for it. finally, at least rodney harrison didnt use his wife or gf or whatever he has to do his dirty work!! he flat out admitted he used it to get back to playing bc he loves playing football. the way i c it, society is better off having sports like the NFL, MMA, WWE, Pro Boxing, NHL, etc. Its crazy to imagine the destruction some of these men would cause with no sport to provide them a legitimate job.

  64. zigthepatsfan says: Jan 6, 2016 12:35 PM

    BobbyHanks63 says:
    Jan 6, 2016 11:55 AM
    The MLB players have very rarely ever admitted they took the performance enhancing HGH because it virtually eliminates them for Hall of Fame consideration. The same is true with Manning.
    ——-
    It’s not true for Manning. He could be found guilty,get suspended, whatever and he’s still going in on the 1st ballot.
    The baseball HoF has a much higher standard than the Football Hof.

  65. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 6, 2016 12:37 PM

    The investigative reporter said they found Charlie Sly through Tim Montgomery, he of BALCO cheating fame.

    Fertility drug? LOL. Whatever you say you dirty cheating doper.

    *

    #KeepPEDtonOutOfTheHOF
    #FilthyPEDCheatingDirtbagsDontBelongThere

  66. Remember when PFT was about football? Now its just a bunch of whiney losers who cry about the Patriots says: Jan 6, 2016 12:42 PM

    billswillnevermove says:
    Jan 6, 2016 12:31 PM

    weepingjebus says:Jan 6, 2016 10:18 AM

    “Yeah, and I saw him after that first surgery, this neck surgery, and I was pretty much convinced that he was done. There was no way he could come back and play football. That first time he went and we were just throwing it in the backyard of our house. We’re throwing 15 yards away, and it was a lob. He couldn’t throw 15 yards on a line. It had no pop. I was like, I mean – he wanted to come back and play football, and I didn’t think it would happen.” — Eli Manning
    __________________________________
    “Well, I’ll tell you, I’m just amazed. “I accidentally picked up Tom Brady’s helmet and the coaches kept right on speaking to him after the 15 second cutoff, right up until we snapped the ball”. The voice in Tom Brady’s helmet was explaining the exact defense he was about to face”

    _ Doug Flutie
    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    And I’m amazed that Brady was out there playing, with no helmet on… How could Flutie be listening to Brady’s helmet (when Brady was wearing it on the field)?

  67. patriotsticketssince1978 says: Jan 6, 2016 12:43 PM

    billswillnevermove says:
    Jan 6, 2016 12:31 PM

    “Well, I’ll tell you, I’m just amazed. “I accidentally picked up Tom Brady’s helmet and the coaches kept right on speaking to him after the 15 second cutoff, right up until we snapped the ball”. The voice in Tom Brady’s helmet was explaining the exact defense he was about to face”

    _ Doug Flutie
    MVP*****MVP*****MVP*****MVP*****MVP*****

    That must have been one of the many times Brady was actually playing without his helmet. Playing without a helmet is just another way he cheats.

  68. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 6, 2016 12:43 PM

    Look at the apologists for PEDton* and his cheating either deny or try to deflect and change the subject to other NFL teams and players.

    Laughable.

    #YourBoyIsAFilthyCheat
    #OwnIt
    #Tainted4Eva

  69. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 6, 2016 12:44 PM

    I do not want PED’s legalized in the NFL.

    They are used only by cheaters like PEDton for the purpose of cheating.

    Gimme a clean game anyday.

  70. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 6, 2016 12:49 PM

    Listen up Patriot Hater and apologists of cheaters like PEDton*.

    Even if Tom Brady was seen holding a ball needle on camera, smiling at the camera, stuck it in for a few seconds then flipped the middle finger to the camera and went on his merry way… nothing changes the fact that PEDton is a dirty cheat and all his accomplishments are tarnished forever.

    The end.

    *
    🙂

  71. Treat manning like Brady says: Jan 6, 2016 12:56 PM

    jppsblownofffingers says:
    Jan 6, 2016 11:32 AM
    Wow I read these comments and can’t believe what idiots exist in this world. Who cares if he took it. There’s not one person here that wouldn’t of taken it and if you say your wouldn’t have you’re a liar. He did what he had to do to live a normal life and get back to his job. All you soap box standing hypocrites make me laugh. We need to stop demonizing medicine and chemicals that can help the human body. So enough of all your fake outrage and criticism. Y’all are prob the same nit wits that go home and drink yourself to sleep or roll a fatty to deal with your miserable lives. Smh

    And that would make sense, if we were NFL players.

    As I said all along during Framegate, let’s get this into full open court where everything is on the table and no one can hide and let the chips fall where they may,

    For Brady or Manning or any other player.

    Interesting part is the the NFl wanted everything hush hush when they ran to find a sympathetic court to sanction their unsportsmanlike conduct. I wonder why that was?

  72. Treat manning like Brady says: Jan 6, 2016 12:57 PM

    We need to stop demonizing medicine and chemicals that can help the human body. So enough of all your fake outrage and criticism.

    Right on Brother man!
    Sincerely,
    Lyle Alzado

  73. savethenflfirerogergoodell says: Jan 6, 2016 12:58 PM

    only fools believe this guy didnt do it.

    media is covering for him.

    how ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!

  74. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 6, 2016 1:00 PM

    “Wow I read these comments and can’t believe what idiots exist in this world. Who cares if he took it.”

    People care because its an illegal drug unless used for 3 very specific prescription drugs.

    People care because its a PED and illegal under league rules.

    People care because Payton Manning cheated by taking it.

    I also guarantee that if this was Brady being accused most of you people who are saying who cares if he took it would be screaming for Tom to be lynched.

  75. Treat manning like Brady says: Jan 6, 2016 1:03 PM

    The part that is hard to understand is why it’s hard for people who have been raking all things NE over the coals non-stop for 11 months to understand why NE fans are now giving them a taste of their own excrement.

    What’s hard for NE fans to understand is why these same folks now seem uninterested in actual evidence or the “integrity” of the game.

  76. lambeauheap says: Jan 6, 2016 1:03 PM

    The voice in Tom Brady’s helmet was explaining the exact defense he was about to face”

    _ Doug Flutie

    Bills held out of the playoffs yettttttt again. 87 years and counting

  77. ebdug says: Jan 6, 2016 1:04 PM

    That first condition is the one. The judge ruled in Vilma’s defamation case against Goodell that while Goodell may be an idiot, Vilma was a public figure and Roger didn’t have to show his slanderous statements were true.

  78. Treat manning like Brady says: Jan 6, 2016 1:05 PM

    Remember the cries from last year,

    vacate the AFCCG win and send the Colts to the SB.

    Has outrage suddenly gone out of style everywhere but in NE?

  79. imodan says: Jan 6, 2016 1:09 PM

    “Well, I’ll tell you, I’m just amazed. “I accidentally picked up Tom Brady’s helmet and the coaches kept right on speaking to him after the 15 second cutoff, right up until we snapped the ball”. The voice in Tom Brady’s helmet was explaining the exact defense he was about to face”

    _ Doug Flutie
    ———————————————————-
    The trolls have posted some real winners before but it’ll be hard to beat this one. Brady playing without a helmet……priceless.

  80. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 6, 2016 1:09 PM

    If the Broncos had integrity they would give PEDton* his walking papers now before this playoff run by the Broncos gets tainted and an asterisk by a cheating doper.

    Let Osweiler take charge, give the Broncos a clean slate this playoff season and see where it goes. You never know. Nobody thought the soon to be GOAT Tom Brady had a shot at a Super Bowl 14 years ago.

  81. footballfan72 says: Jan 6, 2016 1:14 PM

    Just admit you’re guilty Peyton and people will forgive and forget. It worked for Yankees pitcher Andy Pettite. And don’t kid yourself that us ordinary Joes are too dumb to notice signs of steroid use. You got a forehead so big you use a beach towel as a sweatband.

  82. selfpromotingqb says: Jan 6, 2016 1:17 PM

    Manning hires Ari Fleisher for damage control and the Packers hired Ari Fleisher to damage Favre.
    Fire Jim Nantz while you’re at it

  83. zigthepatsfan says: Jan 6, 2016 1:17 PM

    What he has he made, 70-80 million since he came back? Who wouldn’t do that? But it’s definitely cheating and it seems pretty obvious he did cheat. I believe most of these guys do it, the “bad guys”, the ones that make these designer drugs, are always ahead of the testing, just some users are dumb or unlucky enough to get caught or linked in some way to it. Very humorous to me that the golden boy is linked to it . And it’s “no big deal” now and people demanding proof when a little common sense should tell you…

  84. factman66 says: Jan 6, 2016 1:18 PM

    Alex Guerrero supplies Tom Brady with PEDs.

  85. headwoundharry says: Jan 6, 2016 1:19 PM

    It’s funny, the story about Manning/his wife receiving shipments of HGH has been totally recanted by the party first making the claim, several independent doctors have gone on the record stating that HGH would have no benefit to Manning’s recovery from his neck surgeries, the NFL plans no investigation into the matter, yet the Haters still Hate. Over his career, Manning must have beat your team like Greg Harding’s girlfriend, yes?

  86. pantherpro says: Jan 6, 2016 1:27 PM

    Good luck clowns. Al Jazerra is legit and you are busted!

  87. nhpats says: Jan 6, 2016 1:32 PM

    headwoundharry says:
    Jan 6, 2016 1:19 PM
    It’s funny, the story about Manning/his wife receiving shipments of HGH has been totally recanted by the party first making the claim, several independent doctors have gone on the record stating that HGH would have no benefit to Manning’s recovery from his neck surgeries, the NFL plans no investigation into the matter, yet the Haters still Hate. Over his career, Manning must have beat your team like Greg Harding’s girlfriend, yes?

    ——————-
    LOL! When considering the postseason Manning hasn’t beaten too many teams….

  88. imodan says: Jan 6, 2016 1:33 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 6, 2016 1:18 PM

    Alex Guerrero supplies Tom Brady with PEDs.
    —————————————————–
    The NFL has thoroughly investigated these allegations, (unlike the one’s against Pey Pey, shocking, I know) and have given the okay. Now if ever there was a guy the NFL would have loved to stick it to it is Brady so once again factman66 lays an egg.

  89. lambeauheap says: Jan 6, 2016 1:34 PM

    Alex Guerrero supplies Tom Brady with PEDs.

    For a guy called factman you very rarely, actually never, post any facts

  90. imodan says: Jan 6, 2016 1:37 PM

    headwoundharry says:
    Jan 6, 2016 1:19 PM

    It’s funny, the story about Manning/his wife receiving shipments of HGH has been totally recanted by the party first making the claim, several independent doctors have gone on the record stating that HGH would have no benefit to Manning’s recovery from his neck surgeries, the NFL plans no investigation into the matter, yet the Haters still Hate. Over his career, Manning must have beat your team like Greg Harding’s girlfriend, yes?
    —————————————————–
    I’d say the majority of commenters are Patriot fans who’s biggest gripe is the hypocrisy in which the two cases have been handled. Your point about Manning beating teams is mute when it comes to him vs. the Patriots. Pats are 11-5 against the perennial choke artist now accused cheater.

  91. lambeauheap says: Jan 6, 2016 1:42 PM

    perennial choke artist now accused cheater

    PEY PEY’s new moniker!! I like it

  92. factman66 says: Jan 6, 2016 1:46 PM

    The NFL has thoroughly investigated these allegations

    They did? I didn’t even think there were real allegations.

  93. felcus says: Jan 6, 2016 1:50 PM

    Put Ken Kratz on the case so nothing can go wrong.

  94. to147 says: Jan 6, 2016 1:59 PM

    I think he likely took them. Sure maybe they were for the wife but wouldn’t a real doctor prescribed them? Why go to a completely shady practice if they were for her?

    That being said I honestly don’t think it’s that big a deal, even if it is technically ‘cheating’. However I also don’t think 0.5-1.0 psi is a big deal either. The way these two stories were treated by ESPN (and the league) is enlightening, concerning, and fairly damning though.

  95. zeke2517 says: Jan 6, 2016 2:04 PM

    Lance Armstrong, Ryan Braun, and A-Rod would recommend against this action.

  96. headwoundharry says: Jan 6, 2016 2:08 PM

    LOL! When considering the postseason Manning hasn’t beaten too many teams….
    _____________________________________
    11-13 in the post season. 1 ring. How’s your QB doing?

  97. savethenflfirerogergoodell says: Jan 6, 2016 2:26 PM

    when are the peter kings of the world and the chris collinsworths gonna bury this guy manning for the cheater and bum that he is?????????????

  98. nhpats says: Jan 6, 2016 2:27 PM

    headwoundharry says:
    Jan 6, 2016 2:08 PM
    LOL! When considering the postseason Manning hasn’t beaten too many teams….
    _____________________________________
    11-13 in the post season. 1 ring. How’s your QB doing?

    ————————–

    At 21-8 my QB has the most postseason wins in NFL history. He has also won 4 SBs. I’d say he is doing pretty well.

  99. j0esixpack says: Jan 6, 2016 2:32 PM

    This is 100x worse than even what Brady was alleged to have done – but even a junior high kid knows that PSI is lower in the cold – and the NFL openly admits they never had any evidence

    But I’m looking forward to Ashley Manning assert she took HGH while pregnant

    As of yet no one has denied she in fact received the HGH

    Peyton and Eli (not a stretch to think he was in on this too) can put this to rest by telling the Institute to release their medical records or those of “Ashley” but they refuse

    Guilty

  100. Patskrieg says: Jan 6, 2016 2:32 PM

    I don’t get it. Doesn’t Manning love the league? Why wouldn’t he admit to doing HGH… for the good of the league?

  101. doggeatdogg says: Jan 6, 2016 2:39 PM

    Funny how NE fans interject themselves and Brady into the discussion. If Payton is guilty, it does not let Brady be any less guilty of his own shenanigans, so please stop. No one is trying to shield Peyton. If he and any other player including Brady cheat, then they deserve the scrutiny. It’s that simple.

  102. savethenflfirerogergoodell says: Jan 6, 2016 2:50 PM

    Oh no. Didn’t people hear? Its his wife that was on the HGH. Of course. Are we all THIS stupid?

  103. billswillnevermove says: Jan 6, 2016 2:50 PM

    Dang……..it was a joke boys……nothing more. I know nothing like that ever happened and Spygate was blown all out of proportion. Good luck in the playoffs!!

  104. tigerlilac says: Jan 6, 2016 2:57 PM

    People need to watch the documentary before commenting. Manning has admitted that a clinic, not a hospital or a specialist in a field that might legitimately prescribe HGH, sent the drug to his wife on numerous occasions.

    Crickets from Goodell.

    Crickets from the state and federal prosecutors.

    A media that is bending over backwards to give Manning a pass.

    Wow, two of the three above crucified Brady for an unproven charge that he was generally aware someone let minisule amounts of air out of some footballs, charges that now appear totally bogus. Perception is reality and the unequal treatment here speaks volumes.

  105. jasonculhane says: Jan 6, 2016 3:06 PM

    Rodney Harrison was tested for HGH and failed…Did Peyton fail a test we were unaware of? Peyton has been tested for everything prior to and after each contract for the last 3 years, or you can believe in conspiracies, oh wait only if it’s not the Pats. You guys are reaching badly. And its pathetic. Pats fans just hate Peyton Manning, how come you guys don’t hate Eli? He’s killed you guys in the bigger games lol..

    These are just speculative rumors, nothing more. These pats fans are just hoping and praying its true so they can be even in the 2 quarterback asterisk battle…No worries guys, you guys are still infront of the pack

  106. jasonculhane says: Jan 6, 2016 3:21 PM

    And another thing how does everyone know he’s guilty already? Same news org that’s a failure worldwide, but lets believe their word for it ONLY when it benefits Pats fans. No one watches that dopey network and when they reach for story, all you guys fall for it hook line and sinker with no proof at all..And the people who made the documentary can’t even accuse Manning of taking it, they have people who aren’t even credible like this “Sly” guy…

  107. patriotsticketssince1978 says: Jan 6, 2016 3:32 PM

    jasonculhane says:
    Jan 6, 2016 3:06 PM

    Rodney Harrison was tested for HGH and failed…

    MVP*****MVP*****MVP*****MVP*****MVP*****MVP*****

    The NFL suspended Harrison for receiving HGH in the mail. They did hot test for HGH when he was suspended. The NFL began testing for HGH in the middle part of last season.

    Side effects for HGH use that develop shortly after treatment protocol include a weakening of the tendons in the hand and foot. This commonly results in carpal tunnel syndrome or plantar fasciaitis.

  108. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 6, 2016 3:36 PM

    “Same news org that’s a failure worldwide,”

    Hate to tell you Al Jazeera is not a “failure worldwide”. They have already won several awards and have reporters in jail in Egypt, Syria and other islamic countries for exposing human rights violations by the governments.

    They are actually more valid than many US “news sources” who do nothing but hide the dirty play by their corporate advertisers and owners, and by politicians they decide they are supporting.

    “If the Broncos had integrity they would give PEDton* his walking papers now before this playoff run by the Broncos gets tainted and an asterisk by a cheating doper.”

    Donks ? Integrity ? They’re being run by Elway who was complicit in the salary cap cheating Denver engaged in the 2 years they won the SB.

    By the standards of pft planet he’s a cheater for life and will never have integrity.

  109. Treat manning like Brady says: Jan 6, 2016 3:49 PM

    These are just speculative rumors, nothing more. These pats fans are just hoping and praying its true so they can be even in the 2 quarterback asterisk battle…No worries guys, you guys are still infront of the pack

    The issue is not about guilt or innocence. I consider both Brady and Manning innocent until someone can come up with actual hard evidence. So far none in either case IMO.

    This pats fan is not hoping for anything except that we are told the truth and that these allegations made by anonymous sources are verified before fining or suspending anyone. This pats fan is furious that the NFL and the media types are approaching the Manning with kids gloves that they apparently purchased after they were done trashing Brady. How these POS’s can sleep at night is beyond me. Even further beyond is why some people wanted to believe them.

  110. tylawspick6 says: Jan 6, 2016 4:25 PM

    Arrest Goodell

  111. YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob says: Jan 6, 2016 5:32 PM

    He hasn’t filed a lawsuit because he took HGH. He could use a double shot, because it isn’t helping him now. Maybe he can block some field goals with that melon.

  112. sxk129 says: Jan 7, 2016 9:02 AM

    bhtwins says:
    Jan 6, 2016 11:23 AM
    Most stories are missing this piece of information.

    The Denver Post called Sly’s school in Arizona. He was a first year pharmacy student in 2011 and as such would not have been eligible to intern.
    ======================================
    Really?
    According to Indiana state records, Charles Sly was licensed as a pharmacy intern from 2010 to 2013.

    You can check this out yourself at mylicense.in.gov:

    Person Information Charles David Sly
    Address Information Brownsburg IN 46112
    License Information
    License No: 45016282A
    Profession: Pharmacy Board
    License Type: Pharmacy Intern
    Obtained By Method: Application
    Issue Date: 4/27/2010
    Expiration Date: 5/1/2013
    License Status: Expired

  113. Creed says: Jan 7, 2016 6:56 PM

    I am fascinated by this story and also glad that it did not just go away.

    I am watching in disgust at two things:

    1. PM is buddies with the media, his family is, so ESPN and others refuse to even talk about the possiblity of Manning using. It’s going to take smart reporting to get to the bottom of this and it shouldn’t just go away.

    2. PM comes out guns blazing and calling the report trash, an invasion of privacy with his wife, etc.

    He had a chance when this came out to kill it by simply saying:

    “I made a mistake. It was 2011, HGH wasn’t banned by the NFL at that time, but I still should have been smarter about it. I wanted to play and I wanted to heal. Did it work? I don’t know, I worked my butt off to rehab. In hindsight, it was stupid, I used it briefly and it was a mistake. I’m sorry.”

    Done, end of story. Instead, he comes out and tries to play everyone for a fool. He can’t will this away. I think the biggest lie he’s told is this “I’m not going to lose any sleep over this.” Great quote, can’t be true.

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