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Bob Quinn’s first job in Detroit: Decide Jim Caldwell’s fate

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New Lions General Manager Bob Quinn won’t be able to delay long in making his first major decision.

Quinn is now the boss of Lions head coach Jim Caldwell and has to decide whether or not Caldwell will be given a third season in Detroit. And Quinn can’t wait too long to make that decision, as many of the best head-coaching candidates are already interviewing with other teams. If you’re going to fire your coach, you’d rather do it sooner rather than later.

If Quinn does fire Caldwell, New England would be the obvious place to look for the Lions’ next head coach. Quinn has spent his entire career with the Patriots, so perhaps he’d want to hire a New England assistant like offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels or defensive coordinator Matt Patricia.

Caldwell had a good first season in Detroit, going 11-5 in 2014, but last year he got off to a terrible 1-7 start and it looked like he’d be fired along with the former G.M., Martin Mayhew. Caldwell led the Lions to a 6-2 run over the second half of the season, however, and that may have been enough to save his job.

Until Quinn makes an announcement, no one knows Caldwell’s fate.

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39 Responses to “Bob Quinn’s first job in Detroit: Decide Jim Caldwell’s fate”
  1. matt2calvin says: Jan 9, 2016 7:05 AM

    Caldwell is irrelevant…

    We need to keep Austin. If we can’t keep Austin as DC, then we need to hire Austin as Head Coach.

    As always, Cooter is fine!

    If we can somehow have an above average defense next year, along with a much easier schedule, the Lions will be a playoff team again. The secret is continuity. Find a way to keep Austin…

  2. bonniebengal says: Jan 9, 2016 7:08 AM

    The only coaches hired that year who have been doing well are the former Cincinnati coordinators, especially Zimmer.

  3. whooligun says: Jan 9, 2016 7:17 AM

    They need to keep Caldwell so the fans have someone to blame when Stafford & the offence keep losing important games.

  4. 6ball says: Jan 9, 2016 7:18 AM

    .
    Is Caldwell the guy who’s going to get you to the Super Bowl? Probably not . If I were Quinn, I’d take Patricia over McDaniels for the Lions.

    When was the last time the Lions had a good defense? 1958?
    .

  5. snake11s says: Jan 9, 2016 7:23 AM

    Good luck Bob, you had your meal ticket stamped in New England.
    If Cleveland is the factory of sadness you just signed up for the factory of dysfunction.

  6. railcarcowboy says: Jan 9, 2016 7:31 AM

    Caldwell lost the Super Bowl to the Saints. If you can’t win the Super Bowl with Payton Manning at QB then you’re never going to win it. Shouldn’t have been hired as a head coach to begin with! He’s out!

  7. 90lions81 says: Jan 9, 2016 7:51 AM

    Keep Caldwell. Keep Cooter. Keep Austin. And make sure Calvin comes back!

    No Josh Mcdaniels

  8. silverandhonolulublue says: Jan 9, 2016 7:53 AM

    matt2Calvin your way of thinking is why you see $1,000 car with $2,000 rims.

  9. iammrbinky says: Jan 9, 2016 8:11 AM

    Jim Bob needs to stay and if they fire Caldwell, the next coach is already on staff.

  10. campcouch says: Jan 9, 2016 8:22 AM

    yep, don’t win a SB with a bad team after 2 years…can him. Zero patience in the NFL. You can only work with what you are given.

  11. razzlejag says: Jan 9, 2016 8:24 AM

    Caldwell is facing the final countdown at the burrito machine.

  12. doe22us says: Jan 9, 2016 8:24 AM

    It could have been 7-1, less that miraculous Hail Mary, i think he righted the ship quite well, and should be given another chance.

  13. warsal says: Jan 9, 2016 8:48 AM

    I’m the ever skeptical Lion’s fan and even I think it’s too soon to fire him after two years. Lombardi’s scheme was way too complicated, which should be pretty obvious by the amount of sacks the O line gave up while he was there. He’s out, then suddenly the offense is clicking with a little Cooter action. One more year then reevaluate…don’t click the reset button already!

  14. margoadams says: Jan 9, 2016 8:51 AM

    Could be a landing spot for Chip Kelly.

  15. mazenblue says: Jan 9, 2016 8:55 AM

    Jim Caldwell cost us a win by not arguing a wrong call when the ball was batted out of the endzone. 31 other HC in th eNFL would have ran down to the end zone to remind the refs of the proper call Jim Caldwell is a do nothing guy. He is content on things as they are. He just wants everyone to be nice and have a culture of resect. And apparently that means not arguing the refs WRONG CALLS. That is not what a leader of alpha males does

  16. firecracker87 says: Jan 9, 2016 9:01 AM

    Doesn’t the fact that Quinn left Pats mean the Pats will now decline?

  17. thetruthcampaign says: Jan 9, 2016 9:17 AM

    Too soon to fire Caldwell. He’s on winningest coach, maybe ever, right now.

  18. realfootballfan says: Jan 9, 2016 9:18 AM

    I know Lion fans don’t want to hear it, but people from New England have said Quinn already has indicated he plans to keep Caldwell.

  19. billsrule2015 says: Jan 9, 2016 9:25 AM

    I think Jim Caldwell needs to show more emotion and intensity on the sidelines. Guy looks like Todd Bowles who has the same blank stare on his face all game long.

  20. kcflake says: Jan 9, 2016 9:31 AM

    I remember when policy became gm of the. Hiefs. He made a mistake in firing herm Edwards to hire Todd haley. Huge mistake. Pioli should’ve waited a year and stayed with herm. Haley was a disaster.

  21. captainwhodat says: Jan 9, 2016 9:44 AM

    I think Jim Caldwell needs to show more emotion and intensity on the sidelines. Guy looks like Todd Bowles who has the same blank stare on his face all game long.
    Seemed to work for Landry…

  22. aintthenazz says: Jan 9, 2016 9:49 AM

    “6ball says:
    Jan 9, 2016 7:18 AM

    When was the last time the Lions had a good defense? 1958?”

    How about 2014, when Detroit had the NFL’s #2 defense.

  23. corporatemediaprostitute says: Jan 9, 2016 9:57 AM

    This is a 9 win team. Turd Bay given an extra play after Lions won in regulation. No call on batted ball out of the endzone against the Seaducks.

  24. willking55 says: Jan 9, 2016 10:03 AM

    Hire the DC from New England and keep Austin..
    Bring an young OC from New England and the formula of finding scraps in the draft that fit the new system, stick with this formula for seven years and you’ll win a Super Bowl….

  25. thetruthcampaign says: Jan 9, 2016 10:03 AM

    Doesn’t matter how anyone thinks Caldwell should “act” on the sideline. Anyone acting any possible way has had success in the NFL.

    You want a team who supports the coach.

    The biggest malfunction the coaching had all season, to me, was the lack of hail mary defense, but Austin was in on that too.

  26. razzlejag says: Jan 9, 2016 10:03 AM

    Todd Bowles had a very good first year with the Jest I mean Jets and got them to the brink of the playoffs. His players like and respect him and play hard for him despite the blank stare. I’m not sure if that’s a good measure of a HC.

  27. thesmartestmanever says: Jan 9, 2016 10:06 AM

    Here’s your delima. If you keep Caldwell, which he deserves to be retained, but if your successful next season and someone comes and steal your Cooter’ from you for a HC gig, then what?

  28. thelionsarethejokeofthenfl says: Jan 9, 2016 10:20 AM

    matt2Calvin your way of thinking is why you see $1,000 car with $2,000 rims.

    _____________________________________

    Reading the Lion’s fans comments on here is like reading the Sunday morning funnies on ‘cid!

  29. pastabelly says: Jan 9, 2016 10:43 AM

    Quinn should want his own guy there. Why would anyone want to clean house and then keep a holdover? Hard to believe that a Dungy guy would work well with a Belichick guy. Detroit is a good opportunity for either Patricia or McDaniels. I can’t see Quinn paying big money to keep Johnson around and having cap space to spend on depth will help make any coach look good.

  30. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Jan 9, 2016 10:44 AM

    billsrule2015 says:
    Jan 9, 2016 9:25 AM
    I think Jim Caldwell needs to show more emotion and intensity on the sidelines. Guy looks like Todd Bowles who has the same blank stare on his face all game long.
    ________________

    How did that emotion and intensity work out in Buffalo?
    For every Carroll there’s a Belichick. At the end of the day it’s about substance not style

  31. williamannand says: Jan 9, 2016 11:01 AM

    A guy who has spent his entire career with one team does not necessarily know who the best coach would be for another team. Because of Quinn’s background he may have a good handle on Lions players, but is hardly in a position to gauge their coaching staff.

    In many cases, the so-called best candidate are names proffered by the media, and the team that asked a media member to choose its coach would be a team in deep trouble. No one in the media offered up Quinn’s name as one of the best candidates for a GM job, but now that the Lions have chosen him, there’s an urgency drummed up by the media that he get one of their so-called best coaching candidates before the cupboard is bare.

    Teams like the Dolphins who perform poorly for a number of years hope to pacify their fans with splashy moves that seldom pan out. The media embrace the splashy moves with big-time coverage. In most cases, the media will be back a year or two later with big-time coverage of a big-time firing, and a new media-driven list of the newest crop best candidates will be floated, starting the cycle all over again. It creates a lot of page hits, but it doesn’t win football games.

  32. thetruthcampaign says: Jan 9, 2016 11:09 AM

    Caldwell is .550 in the NFL and .563 with the Lions. I don’t mind that at all.

  33. ahs2 says: Jan 9, 2016 11:24 AM

    6ball says:
    Jan 9, 2016 7:18 AM

    When was the last time the Lions had a good defense? 1958?
    _________________________

    Uh, last season that were #2 but first in rush defense…the rest of your post is now invalid

  34. a1b24312 says: Jan 9, 2016 11:42 AM

    Policy never worked for the Chefs.

    That said, since a NEguy is tye new GM, he will puck a NE guy because, well, you know, NE guys have dine so well as HCs over all.

    Keep Caldwell. Learn the organization first, pipsqueak. Thats the mistake so many of these new hires do – they dont learn the organzation first.

    Most of the fire Caldwell crowd is simply about soneone that emotes on the sideline. In some sports, thats enough not to hire someone.

    Caldwell is a competent coach. You could do worse. See Mohrhinweg, M and Marinelli, R and Mariucci, S.

  35. aintthenazz says: Jan 9, 2016 11:52 AM

    I would keep Caldwell for another year, hopefully with both coordinators. First order of business should be rebuilding the entire scouting department. Poor drafting has really kept them from advancing.

  36. senatorblutarsky says: Jan 9, 2016 12:55 PM

    doe22us says:
    Jan 9, 2016 8:24 AM

    It could have been 7-1, less that miraculous Hail Mary, i think he righted the ship quite well, and should be given another chance.
    ___________________

    “Miraculous” Hail Mary? That loss was totally Caldwell’s fault. He had a time out to take to get the defense ready and didn’t bother to take it. His most mobile defensive lineman, Ansah was at mid-field with his thumb up his butt. Calvin who said he practices a goal line defense was on the sidelines. The Lions lost that game due to Caldwell’s choices.

    Caldwell is a terrible game manager and continually makes bad decisions during games. That’s enough to get rid of him. If he stays it will be Quinn’s choice and only because Quinn doesn’t want to disrupt the coaching staff and values the continuity.

  37. senatorblutarsky says: Jan 9, 2016 1:01 PM

    If Quinn fires Caldwell, as a new General Manager Quinn will need a head coach with prior experience. Might be Josh Daniels or someone else. For all we know Quinn will retain Caldwell strictly to please Calvin and some others on the team. But that doesn’t mean Caldwell will be around after this upcoming season.

  38. pastabelly says: Jan 9, 2016 1:18 PM

    a1b24312 says:
    Jan 9, 2016 11:42 AM
    Policy never worked for the Chefs.

    That said, since a NEguy is tye new GM, he will puck a NE guy because, well, you know, NE guys have dine so well as HCs over all.
    =====================================
    Uh, you would take Billy O’Brien in a minute if he were available.

  39. senatorblutarsky says: Jan 9, 2016 1:22 PM

    williamannand says:
    … No one in the media offered up Quinn’s name as one of the best candidates for a GM job, but now that the Lions have chosen him, there’s an urgency drummed up by the media …
    ________________

    Not true. Justin Rogers via mlive recommended Quinn in a story posted on November 5, 2015.

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