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Report: Jim Caldwell not safe

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With former Patriots director of pro scouting Bob Quinn becoming the new G.M. of the Lions, the first order of business will be to decide the fate of coach Jim Caldwell.

Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that Caldwell is not safe.

Of course, that doesn’t mean Quinn won’t ultimately decide to keep Caldwell, at least for a year. But as the NFL becomes more and more of a year-to-year proposition, the notion that Quinn could parlay 2016 into a scholarship season by keeping Caldwell for one more year may no longer apply — and one more bad year with Caldwell and company could get Caldwell and Quinn fired by an impatient nonagenarian who wants to win now.

Then again, firing Caldwell raises the stakes for Quinn, especially in light of multiple reports that owner Martha Ford wants Caldwell to stay. Whoever Quinn hires had better do better than however Ford thinks Caldwell could do, if given another chance to turn things around.

With quarterback Matthew Stafford under contract, Quinn could be able to lure a very good coach to the Lions. Maybe Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels will decide to finally leave the New England nest, given the chance to work with a guy who clearly has the talent to become one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

Regardless of what Quinn chooses to do, his arrival in Detroit goes like this: “Welcome aboard, there’s your office, now go make right out of the gates what perhaps could be the biggest decision you ever will.”

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  1. rcampore says: Jan 9, 2016 10:35 AM

    I could be wrong, but I feel like the Fords want to make a big move and bring someone in with a winning pedigree. I think that Coughlin might be the candidate they want. They want to win now, they have the QB, a HOF WR and a good defense with a good amount of quality players. When Coughlin has the players, he can win it all. Yes he is 70 years old, but he is extremely healthy, and could easily coach for another 4-5 years. I don’t think the Lions need 5 more years to win it all if they have the right coach and staff in place. I really think this is the perfect fit for him if he really wants to continue to coach.

    I am a huge Giants fan, but have always rooted for the Lions to do well. Barry Sanders was one of my favorite players of all time and I really do wish them all the success in the world.

  2. mariorat says: Jan 9, 2016 10:36 AM

    Ones a Patriot, the other one a Colt… what did u expect?

  3. lgw91s says: Jan 9, 2016 10:36 AM

    He’s gone.

  4. jillontario says: Jan 9, 2016 10:43 AM

    This has Josh McDaniels written all over it. With Abdullah, Stafford, Megatron and Tate, that’s a great offensive team. Should be, anyway.

  5. pemory says: Jan 9, 2016 10:44 AM

    Report: Jim Caldwell not a good coach.

  6. ReligionIsForIdiots says: Jan 9, 2016 10:48 AM

    He shouldn’t be safe, he’s an awful “coach”

  7. jolly1234 says: Jan 9, 2016 10:50 AM

    If Quinn is smart, he’ll pulse Megatron first. I would expect CJ to retire if Caldwell is canned – just too much turmoil this late in his career.

  8. jchipwood says: Jan 9, 2016 10:51 AM

    Can’t wait to see Steven A Smiths twitter after this one.

  9. mburkett1980 says: Jan 9, 2016 10:53 AM

    They should either go with a proven winner like Coughlin or bring in Josh McDaniels to fix that offense.

  10. vetdana says: Jan 9, 2016 10:54 AM

    There is a huge dichotomy here. Any team needs SOME time to adjust to new coaches and learn new schemes. BUT..the NFL today….is a WIN NOW League. A losing season today can get Anyone fired, including the GM.Look what happened in Chicago. No Coach in the NFL has any job security unless they win Division Championships and make a run for the Lombardi Trophy !

  11. mattstaffordsays says: Jan 9, 2016 10:56 AM

    I’m over paid, throw lots of picks and Jay Cutler is better than me. Frown face like Caldwell’s above.

  12. lingsun54 says: Jan 9, 2016 10:58 AM

    He should fire Caldwell, hire Josh McDaniels and keep the coordinators.

  13. the8man says: Jan 9, 2016 11:03 AM

    Ya think? Megatron’s departure is a stinging indictment of a machine that has Caldwell as a major cog.

  14. thetruthcampaign says: Jan 9, 2016 11:05 AM

    Why again is Josh McDaniels a good or better coach? He’s .393 in the NFL. Caldwell is .550 in the NFL and .563 with the Lions.

  15. Cunning Linguist says: Jan 9, 2016 11:13 AM

    Maybe I’m just pipe-dreaming, but if Josh McDaniels really wants to coach Calvin Johnson, perhaps he should just stay put. Conversely, hiring Josh McDaniels may be the best way for the Lions to convince Calvin Johnson not to “retire.”

  16. sgmjerry220 says: Jan 9, 2016 11:15 AM

    When you make the kind of transformational change that Martha Ford did by firing Lewand, Mayhew she signaled that she is committed to changing a culture. With that said caldwell has to go to. As far as winning now, that is not consistent with cultural change. Quinn has to evaluate everyone under his scope, most importantly player personnel (scouts, talent evaluators, etc…) he then has to evaluate what he has. He then needs to hire a coach that he feels can develop talent and has the ability to assemble a coaching staff. Bottom Line: this takes a few years. Trying to win now with undergoing cultural change will NOT produce consistent winning.

  17. detroit20iron says: Jan 9, 2016 11:17 AM

    Good article

  18. ahs2 says: Jan 9, 2016 11:17 AM

    For me, the only reason to keep Caldwell is for his coordinators. Caldwell’s an excellent player manager but a terrible game manager (hail mary, clock snafus). Meh, Austin will probably get a HC gig anyway and keeping Caldwell solely for Cooter isn’t worth it.

  19. 4sacroc says: Jan 9, 2016 11:18 AM

    Just play the Rodgers Hail Mary one more time and how Caldwell chose to ‘defend the sideline.’

    Gone.

  20. hellawaitsusall says: Jan 9, 2016 11:18 AM

    If this dude is a legit GM, no need to change coaches.

  21. itssocoldinthed says: Jan 9, 2016 11:19 AM

    The paradox is that because this is a “win now” situation, the team might be best served retaining Caldwell for the sake of continuity, despite the fact that he isn’t the best candidate long term

  22. einherjer00 says: Jan 9, 2016 11:20 AM

    I understand that there’s something to be said for schematic continuity, but we see new coaches greatly improve on the previous year’s offense/defense all the time…and when they don’t, they usually never do. The negative impact of the disruption is overrated, perhaps offset by greater unpredictability from the perspective of the opponent.

    That said, the notion of Caldwell being out affecting Calvin’s decision is worthy of taking into account, in my opinion. I’m sure Quinn will consider all angles in his decision.

  23. jvw1982 says: Jan 9, 2016 11:28 AM

    Since when is Josh McDaniels a very good head coach? If your going to fire Caldwell it better be for someone better than that….

  24. seahawksbmx says: Jan 9, 2016 11:40 AM

    Josh McDaniels is unquestionably an offensive genius and one of the greatest OCs the game has ever seen, but I’d still be reluctant to have him run my show after he was basically Chip Kelly version 1.0 in Denver.
    I’m with rcampore; Tom Coughlin seems like a perfect match if they could persuade him to take the gig.

  25. bjwbrown2011 says: Jan 9, 2016 11:42 AM

    God, some of those teams needs to learn that you have to roll with a couple bad years in order to determine if the coach is worth keeping.

    Look at the last ten Super Bowl winners and you can see most had rough patches:

    SB 40: Cowher – had a period of three straight non-playoff seasons and two seasons with 10 loses.
    SB 41: Dungy – no losing seasons with the Colts but people had serious doubts about his ability to coach in the playoffs.
    SB 42: Coughlin – went 6-10 his first year, had two ‘one and dones’ after that.
    SB 43: Tomlin – N/A second season (made the playoffs each year)
    SB 44: Peyton – Had two consecutive non-playoff seasons with Drew Brees as a QB.
    SB 45: McCarthy – went 6-10 first year with Rodgers (two seasons prior to the SB win)
    SB 46: Coughlin – coming off two consecutive missed playoffs
    SB 47: Harbaugh – N/A 5th season, won at least one playoff game in first three.
    SB 48: Pete Carol – started with back to back 7-9 seasons (including one division title) before going 11-5 the year before the Super Bowl win
    SB 49: Belichick – started his Patriots career by going 5-11.

  26. wheels579 says: Jan 9, 2016 11:42 AM

    It’s fascinating that nobody seems to notice that nobody from the Belichick tree has had any sustained success outside of New England. Quinn has not worked for any team other than New England. McDaniels has flopped once already as a head coach. So why are other teams so eager to hire away Patriots employees?

  27. vikingsftw says: Jan 9, 2016 11:44 AM

    Caldwell is just like just like Lovie Smith, Leslie Frazier, Jason Garrett, and other girlie coaches that will never succeed in this league. They need to dump him ASAP.

  28. jssebastian2014 says: Jan 9, 2016 11:45 AM

    Caldwell could make a lot more money selling his services to the league as a professional Rooney Rule candidate. No job except to interview six or so times a year and make millions on the side for it.

    But like coaching, he’d probably screw that up too.

  29. junkmtb says: Jan 9, 2016 12:04 PM

    Yep with a new GM, comes a new coach in most cases. Im sure Caldwell is prepared to start packing.

  30. junkmtb says: Jan 9, 2016 12:04 PM

    Yep with a new GM, comes a new coach in most cases. Im sure Caldwell is prepared to start packing.

  31. calpatriot says: Jan 9, 2016 12:09 PM

    wheels579 says:
    Jan 9, 2016 11:42 AM
    It’s fascinating that nobody seems to notice that nobody from the Belichick tree has had any sustained success outside of New England. Quinn has not worked for any team other than New England. McDaniels has flopped once already as a head coach. So why are other teams so eager to hire away Patriots employees?
    —————————————————
    in terms of head coaching leading to superbowls in the nfl you may be right, however in terms of GM’s, scouting cordinators and college coaches (nick saban, kurt ferentz) and over all foot print on the game. You couldn’t be more wrong. Even Ozzie Newsome says he wouldn’t have won the first super bowl with the ravens if not for Bellicheck setting everything up. Texans are in the playoffs with no real QB, Swartz had some success, a lot of the better players on the broncos were drafted by McDaniels, although Tebow was a major bust. I could go on but just look it up for yourself.

  32. tommykramer9 says: Jan 9, 2016 12:14 PM

    Caldwell always looks confused

  33. baldbuc says: Jan 9, 2016 12:20 PM

    No one is ever safe in Detroit.

  34. tebow420 says: Jan 9, 2016 12:21 PM

    May the Schwartz be with you

  35. thepackerpoet says: Jan 9, 2016 12:28 PM

    Hilarious!

    My McCarthy is the class of the conference. Funny to watch all the other team’s panic about their coaching situation.

    Maybe your dreadful organization will one day rise to unseed that packers. Until then…

    Kicking back and loving it.

  36. codiablo says: Jan 9, 2016 12:29 PM

    Join the CFL detroit – u are only one step above cleveland.

  37. rcali says: Jan 9, 2016 12:39 PM

    Well, Belicheat not walking thru that door so good luck!

  38. phinfan says: Jan 9, 2016 12:43 PM

    Lions may … you know… wanna get into the heavy handed coaching search sometime TODAY!!!!!

  39. fievel75 says: Jan 9, 2016 12:49 PM

    Now that Gase has been hired in Miami, Caldwell is a lot safer than he was an hour ago.

  40. streetyson says: Jan 9, 2016 12:52 PM

    thetruthcampaign says:
    Jan 9, 2016 11:05 AM
    Why again is Josh McDaniels a good or better coach? He’s .393 in the NFL. Caldwell is .550 in the NFL and .563 with the Lions.
    ———————-
    But the difference between each guy’s first stint as HC is that Caldwell inherited a healthy/ winning team from Dungy and had a fit and eager Manning in his first season as HC – whereas McDaniels inherited a problematic Broncos from a just-fired Shanahan, and immediately fell foul of a hissy-fit from Jay Cutler who didn’t like the rumour that off-season that the Broncos & McDaniels were hoping to bring in Matt Cassell and trade Cutler without having somehow okayed it with Cutler first! McDaniels said the rumour started because the Pats had approached him but no action was taken so no need to involve Cutler. But Cutler didn’t feel that the owner & HC were committed to him long-term and demanded to be traded, so he was and McDaniels had to start afresh with Kyle Orton.

  41. wtfru2 says: Jan 9, 2016 1:01 PM

    Promote Jim Bob Cooter!

  42. bearssuck says: Jan 9, 2016 1:06 PM

    Oh boy here comes the peanut gallery. The rev Jesse jackson & his little side kick Al Sharpton to say this is happening cuz he’s black Caldwell is black.

  43. dragonfly99 says: Jan 9, 2016 1:16 PM

    Hey, he won seven games. That is a successful season in Detroit.

  44. lionslapdick says: Jan 9, 2016 1:18 PM

    Terrell Austin -HC

    Jim Bob – OC

    Done

  45. NinersRule says: Jan 9, 2016 1:21 PM

    Pretty easy– just let Caldwell coach this next season and keep the Billy Bob guy as OC and see how it goes.

    You know the game– GMs always buy themselves a couple years by waiting to use the “Hire My Own Guy” card.

  46. purpleguy says: Jan 9, 2016 1:31 PM

    Stafford having the talent to be “one of the best QBs in the NFL”? Really? Look, I like the Lions and think they’ve got talent, but after all these years isn’t it clear that Stafford is what he is — an above average, but not elite, NFL QB? I doubt that’s the major draw for a head coach.

  47. ionlyrootforthewinningteam says: Jan 9, 2016 1:53 PM

    purpleguy says:
    Jan 9, 2016 1:31 PM

    Stafford having the talent to be “one of the best QBs in the NFL”? Really? Look, I like the Lions and think they’ve got talent, but after all these years isn’t it clear that Stafford is what he is — an above average, but not elite, NFL QB? I doubt that’s the major draw for a head coach.

    ________________________________________

    He’s better than Bridgewater, that we know for sure!

  48. senatorblutarsky says: Jan 9, 2016 1:57 PM

    If Quinn fires Caldwell, as a new General Manager Quinn will need a head coach with prior experience. Might be Josh Daniels or someone else. For all we know Quinn will retain Caldwell strictly to please Calvin and some others on the team. But that doesn’t mean Caldwell will be around after this upcoming season.

  49. senatorblutarsky says: Jan 9, 2016 2:00 PM

    Caldwell is a terrible game manager (batted end zone ball, “Hail Mary”) and continually makes bad decisions during games. That’s enough to get rid of him. If he stays it will be Quinn’s choice and only because Quinn doesn’t want to disrupt the coaching staff and values the continuity.

  50. whooligun says: Jan 9, 2016 2:07 PM

    Typical Lions thing to do is wait until the top available coaches are hired before deciding you need one too.

  51. bradygirl12 says: Jan 9, 2016 2:11 PM

    The first thing I would do as the new GM would be to find a HC who is a proven winner. Caldwell does not fit that description.

  52. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 9, 2016 2:11 PM

    Caldwell was 26-63 as coach at Wake Forest.

    Nuff said.

    Very good OC but not an NFL head coach.

  53. chinahand11 says: Jan 9, 2016 2:15 PM

    He looks like Grumpy Cat.

  54. butlers91 says: Jan 9, 2016 2:17 PM

    I’ll be super disappointed in this GM is he drops Caldwell. It will show he is just an ego driven guy who wants to say he hired everyone himself. I am not a huge Caldwell fan, but hey really improved the team in the last half of the year, and a good GM would give him one more year to see what he does.

  55. Seprix says: Jan 9, 2016 2:23 PM

    I feel like if Bellicheck went somewhere else to be a HC, he would fail. Why? It’s all about the QB, nothing else matters. Bellicheck got lucky.

    All of the consistent winners have good QBs. The rare times where this is not the case like 2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs still had good QBs who made few mistakes at the time, no matter how consistent they were before that year. Do I need to list all of the consistent winning teams?

    I think in order for most coaches (especially young ones) to succeed, they need to stay coaching for at least 5 years, unless they are clearly awful at their job.

  56. Seprix says: Jan 9, 2016 2:25 PM

    I think the top 5 coaches in the NFL would be Bill Bellicheck, John Harbaugh, Tom Coughlin, Andy Reid, and Sean Peyton (not so sure about this one, as Brees having a near perfect season was much like Caldwell with Manning).

  57. nagidac says: Jan 9, 2016 2:31 PM

    I’m hoping that the Lions hire Lovie Smith, which is what they should have done two years ago instead of Caldwell. Not to say Caldwell is a bad coach, I just think that Smith is a better coach that will get more out of the team. For Smith to be fired after the way the Bucs improved from last year was insane.

  58. senatorblutarsky says: Jan 9, 2016 2:42 PM

    mattstaffordsays says:
    Jan 9, 2016 10:56 AM

    I’m over paid, throw lots of picks and Jay Cutler is better than me. Frown face like Caldwell’s above.
    _______________

    Curler better than StafFORD? Put down the crack pipe, son.

  59. thetruthcampaign says: Jan 9, 2016 2:46 PM

    For everyone who says Caldwell doesn’t act emotional…..um…..Bill Bellicheck.

  60. senatorblutarsky says: Jan 9, 2016 3:10 PM

    whooligun says:
    Jan 9, 2016 2:07 PM

    Typical Lions thing to do is wait until the top available coaches are hired before deciding you need one too.
    _______________

    Sure, Just like hiring a new General Manager. The media projected two weeks. Five days later … POW. Quinn. If they’re going to hire a new head coach, they’ll be talking with candidates today and tomorrow. Typical Lions? I think not. Welcome to the new Detroit Lions. You’ll see.

  61. johnnybaggadonuts says: Jan 9, 2016 3:13 PM

    “Welcome aboard, there’s your office, now go make right out of the gates what perhaps could be the biggest decision you ever will.”

    These are the sentences that hurt to read.

  62. senatorblutarsky says: Jan 9, 2016 3:14 PM

    butlers91 says:
    Jan 9, 2016 2:17 PM

    I’ll be super disappointed in this GM is he drops Caldwell. It will show he is just an ego driven guy who wants to say he hired everyone himself. I am not a huge Caldwell fan, but hey really improved the team in the last half of the year, and a good GM would give him one more year to see what he does.
    ____________________

    I think the lesser competition in the 2nd half of the season had more to do with the 6-2 finish than anything else. Should have been at least 7-1 if not for Caldwell’s “Hail Mary” failure. The credit goes to the players for not quitting.

  63. ivanpavlov0000 says: Jan 9, 2016 3:28 PM

    To the Caldwell haters … Caldwell (and Martha Ford) motivated a 1-7 team to go 6-2 the last 8 games. The only thing worse than keeping him is hiring someone less capable.

    Austin will be gone either way, and that’s going to hurt.

    If Caldwell is fired Megatron will retire. But Megatron is going to retire in the next couple of years regardless. Who should coach the team shouldn’t be based on keeping Calvin.

    I can picture Coughlin and a few others coming in, but Josh McDaniels is not the answer.

  64. lx2016 says: Jan 9, 2016 3:29 PM

    Time for Stephen A.Smith to go wacko again.

  65. whatever3981 says: Jan 9, 2016 3:31 PM

    I don’t understand the people that say ” look at what Caldwell did in the second half of the year”. Caldwell did not do anything. Jim bob cooter did. All Caldwell had to do was stand there with a blank expression on his face.

  66. topcide says: Jan 9, 2016 3:33 PM

    It will all come down to if Austin get’s a head coaching job. If he’s gone, there is no way Jimmy C will be around.

  67. lionsfan0and16forever says: Jan 9, 2016 3:36 PM

    Curler better than StafFORD? Put down the crack pipe, son.

    ____________________________________

    Nice spelling and use of Ford in Stafford’s name, what are you 12 years old? Ford is the worst car company in a america and it’s fitting for Stafford and the miserable city of dirty Detroit!

    All kidding and trash talk aside, Cutler and Stafford are about the same, look at their histories. They both have huge arm talent (probably the best in the league, respectively) and they both turn the ball over a lot from trying to force passes into receivers hands. Both of them are, overall very consistent at not being consistent, yet both have the skill and talent to win a game that’s down to the wire. If you ask Hyzer’s though, he will tell Cutler is better than Stafford.

  68. yyyass says: Jan 9, 2016 4:24 PM

    I can’t wait to see the look on Caldwell’s face if he gets fired.

  69. ivanpavlov0000 says: Jan 9, 2016 4:36 PM

    Rumor has it the decision is coming today or tomorrow. Based on that timing … I think Caldwell is out. They’ll do some additional interviews for show and then hire Josh McDaniels.

    That means Megatron and Rasheen Mathis will announce retirement later this year.

    Based on McDaniels track record, it could also mean trading Matt Stafford to Dallas and a creating a giant mess in Detroit.

  70. 81megatron81 says: Jan 9, 2016 4:54 PM

    Whatever you decide Mr. Quinn, just retain those coordinaters please. Bring in a strong leader and we’ve got a winner on our hands.

  71. scotrugby says: Jan 9, 2016 4:59 PM

    He gone. Mercy.

  72. warwicklionsfan says: Jan 9, 2016 5:28 PM

    I’m not a fan of Caldwell and would like to see him go, but the Lions org is such a disaster. Maybe he should keep Caldwell for a year and get the scouting and drafting up to par. The Lions have been horrible at drafting in the last 20 years. They get lucky once in awhile (Ziggy, Calvin, and Stafford). Being as bad as the Lions have in the last 18 years and all the high draft pick debacles outweigh the couple of good picks…even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile. Quinn’s strong points are drafting, maybe the first year get that fixed. Blowing the whole thing up could prolong the mess…fix sections and do it right. Also he needs to not listen to the press. Two years ago the press here in Detroit were demanding Ken Whisenhunt. Whisenhunt sure worked for Tennessee didn’t he? All I read in the Detroit papers was how the Lions messed that all up. Now, not a word spoken about Whisenhunt from the detroit press…our suppose savior lol

  73. crowdedtrophycase says: Jan 9, 2016 5:42 PM

    Better safe than….never mind.

  74. section310 says: Jan 9, 2016 6:59 PM

    GM Quinn: Hire Josh!

  75. tomcoc66 says: Jan 9, 2016 7:24 PM

    I believe we should keep Caldwell for another year. Lambo did a rotten job and that is why JC is in trouble. All the Lions want him back. All played hard when JB Cooter took over. Let’s see what a year brings. More talent from the middle of the draftand a couple of free agent signings and we could be an elite team…

  76. lion4ever26 says: Jan 9, 2016 11:13 PM

    We need a solid coaching staff, coach’s who only job during the game is to make sure the bench players are paying attention. 2nd and 3rd string special teams players killed us this year because they weren’t always paying attention. Good head coach’s surround themselves with good help. Caldwell has been let down in that regard. When someone goes off injured the next guy in line has to be out on the field in his place. Twice in Green Bay we had only ten guys on the fieldgoal attempts by gb. One of those was the last play of the game. Did anyone get cut monday? Bet your ass, in New England someone would have been out of the league that following Monday. Caldwell maybe is to loyal to his players. 7-9 is a losing record, should Quinn really care what the players want? Bye Caldwell.

  77. Damidwesterner says: Jan 9, 2016 11:20 PM

    Might be best to jettison Caldwell and find a way to keep Teryl. He’s HC material anyway. And that might allow us to keep Jim Bob.

  78. immafubared says: Jan 10, 2016 12:02 AM

    This is kind of stupid isn’t it since we and the writer have no clue whats in the mind of the new GM. I think it was a good choice for Detroit and maybe this guy would like to clean house and build from scratch. I know I would just so I can stand on what it is I built.

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