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Owners were “blown away” by differences between Inglewood and Carson

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So why did the NFL’s owners choose to reject the 5-1 recommendation of the Committee on L.A. Opportunities and embrace Stan Kroenke’s Inglewood project over the Chargers-Raiders proposal in Carson?

It came down to the two projects, and specifically how they were presented to owners on Tuesday.

As one person who witnessed the presentations told PFT, the owners were “blown away” by Kroenke’s proposal, which was presented to ownership by Rams COO Kevin Demoff.

“Stan’s proposal was like watching Star Wars,” the source said, adding that the Carson proposal “was like watching a home movie from the ’70s.”

“Surely, you’re exaggerating,” I said to the source.

“I’m not exaggerating,” the source replied.

That’s a bit of a slap at Disney CEO Bob Iger, who made the presentation on behalf of the Chargers and Raiders (and whose company made the latest Star Wars movie). But, as the source explained it, Iger’s hands were tied by a project that the ownership, once it saw it, immediately concluded it simply didn’t compare to Inglewood.

So why did Iger get involved? The thinking is that Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, who strongly was opposed to allowing Kroenke to move to Inglewood, pursued Iger as a Hail Mary play, using Iger’s desire to becoming a minority owner of a team after his Disney career ends to lure him to the table.

It wasn’t enough, not after Kroenke pulled the sheet off his NFL city for owners who, beyond the L.A. Committee, hadn’t seen the full details before Tuesday. Once they did — and once the ballots were made secret — it became a no-brainer.

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125 Responses to “Owners were “blown away” by differences between Inglewood and Carson”
  1. stl45fan says: Jan 13, 2016 10:28 AM

    StanK will alienate the LA Fans before any of them set foot in his new football park.

  2. Bob says: Jan 13, 2016 10:30 AM

    Awesome to see the stadium committee, which includes Jerry Richardson, John Mara and Robert Kraft, get owned by new money. Three guys who think they run the league got essentially told to shut up by real money.

  3. floratiotime says: Jan 13, 2016 10:31 AM

    It would have been a lot better to just say they liked one more than the other.

  4. jetsfmleveryday says: Jan 13, 2016 10:33 AM

    I don’t understand the complexities of a billionaire presenting his pitch to own an NFL team in Los Angeles, but Im going to give my opinion like its based on some type of understanding… Like we have something in common… or something.

  5. motleytrap says: Jan 13, 2016 10:33 AM

    What was the point of the LA committee?

    They appeared to have no influence at all.

  6. raiderlyfe510 says: Jan 13, 2016 10:34 AM

    With HKS Architects how could Kroenke go wrong? Plus the Carson project was DOA. Two “Little Bank” owners looking for handouts because they don’t have the business acumen generate revenue to build their own stadiums. Kroenke and his HKS Architects built palace is best for the Los Angeles market to have long term success.

  7. sdnative1904 says: Jan 13, 2016 10:36 AM

    Carson Ca simply got hustled for the last 2 years.

  8. woodbridgekid73 says: Jan 13, 2016 10:36 AM

    We all know the decision came down to giving Jeff Fisher another opportunity to coach a franchise during a move. It’s the only scenario where he can be better than average.

  9. bringbackorange says: Jan 13, 2016 10:36 AM

    So lets say the Rams do keep LA for themselves, and the chargers still have to move. Are there other destinations that might come up now? Is it possible that they even try for London or another foreign market?

  10. dpdonny says: Jan 13, 2016 10:36 AM

    Wait. Are you saying the NFL owners made the decision based on whose PowerPoint deck was better?

    Wow.

  11. Factman66 says: Jan 13, 2016 10:37 AM

    My twig and berries are so small and useless, that it fuels my burning fire to hate Brady and the Patriots.

  12. cafetero1075 says: Jan 13, 2016 10:37 AM

    Can someone in Calfornia explain how far from LA or how does it connect to LA.
    I think Inglewood is the hood. What are demographics.

  13. westampa says: Jan 13, 2016 10:38 AM

    I wonder if Iger used Power Point?

  14. pinkmist4 says: Jan 13, 2016 10:40 AM

    Jeff Fisher and Nick Foles aren’t going to put a lot of butts in seats…..

  15. Ben Greenwood says: Jan 13, 2016 10:41 AM

    How much did the Ferguson riots affect the St. Louis presentation? And the East St. Louis scene in National Lampoons Vacation.

  16. gobolts says: Jan 13, 2016 10:42 AM

    Here’s another idea, its just as dumb as the NFL committee’s ideas, but because its so dumb the NFL will probably run with it.

    Have the Rams, Raiders and Chargers play in San Diego, using same old Chargers stadium. 1. Raider fans are forever reminding us that there is more of them in SD than there are Charger fans, so that takes care of that. 2. Ram fans in LA, of which there also many will be close to home, but they won’t have to worry about relocating again in a few years when the Los Angeles experiment fails (again), and 3. The Chargers can spend their money fixing up their stadium like they should.

    If there are any conflicts with 3 teams sharing a stadium, well now the NFL has their first teams they can use for scheduling games in London.

  17. DrinkingTheDeliciousTearsOfTheHaters says: Jan 13, 2016 10:43 AM

    Factman66 says:
    Jan 13, 2016 10:37 AM
    My twig and berries are so small and useless, that it fuels my burning fire to hate Brady and the Patriots.
    _________________________________________
    This explains alot.

  18. aberamsey says: Jan 13, 2016 10:44 AM

    It’s a primo location, close to LA and right next to LAX airport, right off the 405 Freeway. Yes, parts of Inglewood are definitely in the hood, but the old Hollywood Park area due to it’s proximity to things is a desirable location. Carson isn’t that far away, just a few miles south down the 405. It’s centrally located as well, about 15 miles from downtown LA, Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, etc.

  19. Rdog says: Jan 13, 2016 10:44 AM

    @cafetero1075

    Agreed. I’ve only heard about Inglewood from rap songs. Not exactly a good endorsement for millionaires and new starts.

  20. Blair Finkle says: Jan 13, 2016 10:44 AM

    The Inglewood stadium is superior to the one proposed in Carson (estimated $1 billion more). Plus, Inglewood seems like the better location. The Inglewood site is like 10 minutes from LAX. The Carson site is about a half hour away.

  21. cajunaise says: Jan 13, 2016 10:44 AM

    Kroenke says he wants the new stadium to appeal to people with lower incomes.

    Yes……as they watch on television sets at home.

  22. raiderlyfe510 says: Jan 13, 2016 10:45 AM

    motleytrap says:
    Jan 13, 2016 10:33 AM
    What was the point of the LA committee?

    They appeared to have no influence at all.
    ——————————————————————
    The LA Committee rendered itself obsolete by choosing that raggedy Carson project over the luxurious Inglewood project. In 2019 I’m gonna drive 4 1/2 hours just to witness it.

  23. steelerben says: Jan 13, 2016 10:45 AM

    Basically, the decision on which multi-billion dollar business to relocate hinged not on facts or accounting, but on who made the best commercial.

    Ladies and gentlemen, this should remove all confusion as to why Dean Blandino keeps his job: He’s been hiring JJ Abrams to direct his video memos to owners.

  24. routerunner says: Jan 13, 2016 10:46 AM

    Once the honeymoon period in LA is over after a year, maybe two, you’ll be looking at another half empty stadium in St. Louis all over again. Hopefully they locked those sponsors in for long term deals. But hey, now they don’t have to live in St. Louis anymore so there’s that.

  25. Getoffmylawn! says: Jan 13, 2016 10:46 AM

    Inglewood is a great place to live. You can buy a gun, go next door to the liquor store and get the official NFL beer, go to the check cashing place and then to the bail bonds office. All on the same block!
    This project will hopefully help that city in a big way.

  26. Kelly's Chronicles says: Jan 13, 2016 10:47 AM

    I just don’t understand the obsession with LA. They don’t deserve a team. They have already lost 3 NFL teams over the years. The stadium didn’t even sell out the last year the Raiders were there. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. In 10 years I gurantee one or both of these teams will have left again cause the local population has too many other things to do and lack interest.

  27. sfm073 says: Jan 13, 2016 10:48 AM

    I have a hard time believing this, this is just another ploy to justify the Rams going to LA. The same thing as when Kroenke trashing a city he loves, Goodell telling stl there isn’t money available to them, eric grubman saying the stl stadium project isn’t viable even though they followed everything the NFL told them to do.

  28. mogogo1 says: Jan 13, 2016 10:49 AM

    I’d have been surprised to hear the Inglewood proposal WASN’T far superior. That project is shovel-ready with financing all lined up in a location the vast majority of LA residents apparently preferred. The Carson plan is a huge “maybe” and thanks to the toxic waste issues true costs wouldn’t be known until the project was well underway. Truth is nobody was ever sure it would actually get built.

  29. aequitas83 says: Jan 13, 2016 10:50 AM

    So the source is saying that a bunch of billionaires were swayed by production over substance? Encouraging thought.

  30. jgreiner9 says: Jan 13, 2016 10:51 AM

    Asking about other destinations, I believe San Antonio would become one considering the talk the Raiders might consider it now.

  31. stealthscorpio says: Jan 13, 2016 10:51 AM

    Not impressed with Jerry Richardson running his own agenda and ” recruiting” ringers to subvert the process. That and the committee telling someone in St Louis the NFL could come up with an extra $100m that had not been approved. CROOKED and CORRUPT. Glad he got his ass handed to him. He better hope his bad Karma doesn’t comeback to bite his team this weekend.

  32. aberamsey says: Jan 13, 2016 10:52 AM

    Wait. Are you saying the NFL owners made the decision based on whose PowerPoint deck was better?

    Wow.
    ——
    I just don’t get why people are perplexed they picked Inglewood. It’s a better location with a much better stadium/sport complex design owned by someone who really has money, unlike the Chargers/Raiders owners. Everyone immediately jumps on an owner when he uses public money to finance a stadium. Here we have an owner using his own money with no public funds– yet we rip him and wonder why we don’t taxpayer fund a stadium for less wealthy owners. Makes no sense.

  33. nflofficeadmin says: Jan 13, 2016 10:55 AM

    Source: I’m not exaggerating, and don’t call me Shirley.

  34. gobolts says: Jan 13, 2016 10:55 AM

    There’s a reason why anybody from that area no longer lives there.

  35. smokehouse56 says: Jan 13, 2016 10:57 AM

    Question: Are the Rams allowed to take their logo and colors with them to LA from St. Louis? Seems I remember a controversy when Irsay took the Colts logo (horseshoe) and colors (blue and white) with him to Indy.

  36. olskool711 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:00 AM

    On behalf of the former Chancellor and Athletic Director of the State University, we can’t understand why anyone would want to leave the State of Missouri.

  37. mataug says: Jan 13, 2016 11:02 AM

    If you work in corporate, you know that it is so important to have a good presentation than actual good technical work to impress the big guys #smh

  38. clemenza58 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:02 AM

    I hope the Rams are an abject failure in Los Angeles.

  39. packfant24 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:04 AM

    This may be a 100% true…or not. A bunch of “in the best interests of the league” crap as usual. What is true is that the NFL Management and owners have proven over and over they will lie and go wherever the money leads them, screw over loyal fans, move teams, cover for rapists and
    child /wife beaters , whatever, as long as the cash rolls in.

  40. beavertonsteve says: Jan 13, 2016 11:05 AM

    Jeff Fisher and Nick Foles aren’t going to put a lot of butts in seats…..
    ———–
    True, I’m not sure how many fans say “I’m going to the game to see the head coach and the backup QB!”

    I think Todd Gurley and Aaron Donald will go a long ways towards attracting new fans to the Rams.

  41. patsbrat says: Jan 13, 2016 11:05 AM

    So Kroenke gets to pay $550 million to move and pay over a billion for the stadium complex and Chargers / Raiders MIGHT get $100 million. The other 250 – 350 goes to the other owners?

    Clearly stadium/ $$$ are more important to the NFL than the team’s fan base.

  42. emphraser says: Jan 13, 2016 11:08 AM

    Episode IV I imagine.

    Both groups sizing up their audience and opting to use the 70’s for inspiration not that much of a surprise really.

  43. nyloco619 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:11 AM

    Los Angeles is the armpit of California. The Rams and whoever else will fail miserably. Worst place on the map. Have fun there!!

  44. tenthmtnman says: Jan 13, 2016 11:11 AM

    “appeal to lower income” … ? Do they not have a clue? If there is any organization that needs to start powering the money down whether in lower salaries and more jobs, it is the NFL.

  45. touchdownelvis says: Jan 13, 2016 11:11 AM

    smokehouse56 says:
    Jan 13, 2016 10:57 AM

    Question: Are the Rams allowed to take their logo and colors with them to LA from St. Louis? Seems I remember a controversy when Irsay took the Colts logo (horseshoe) and colors (blue and white) with him to Indy.

    You do realize that they have more history as the LA Rams than they do as the St Louis Rams, right?

  46. Centered00 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:15 AM

    The NFL lacks integrity. Period.

    Purely from a “football fan”side:

    1] The Rams have always been the L.A. Rams.
    2] The Raiders have always been the Oakland Raiders.
    3] The Chargers have always been the San Diego Chargers.

    The NFL has enough money in it’s coffers to help San Diego and Oakland stay in their respective cities. It’s just the right thing to do. The Raiders and Chargers are both good for football.

    We are headed for another major recession in the US. and the NFL SOMEHOW just keeps getting richer. The consumer/fans are ‘struggling to make ends meet’ and Sunday NFL games used to be a way of de-stressing and rooting for your home team. We used to call it ‘entertainment.’ Instead, the NFL has become a microcosm of life. The NFL ‘stresses’ us now. It’s is our life. That’s they way Goodell wants it and all the greedy owners.

    We the fans are stupid enough to subsidize the NFL’s schizophrenia.

    NFL – Look what you have become. A national pastime that is past it’s time. All things come to an end sometime. I truly love the game, heritage, but not the hypocrisy of the leaders of this American institution. Humble out before it’s too late.

  47. lengai says: Jan 13, 2016 11:15 AM

    Compton is in the middle of both carson and Inglewood. Put it in Compton.

  48. gohawks7 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:16 AM

    cafetero1075 says:
    Jan 13, 2016 10:37 AM

    Can someone in Calfornia explain how far from LA or how does it connect to LA.
    I think Inglewood is the hood. What are demographics.

    LA is a cesspool….

  49. granadafan says: Jan 13, 2016 11:16 AM

    Inglewood used to be the hood, but it’s slowly gentrifying. With the stadium and development of surrounding properties and the economy in better shape, Inglewood is poised to be revitalized with rising property values.

    Fun fact. The Lakers of the Showtime era (Magic, Kareem, Worthy) used to play in the Forum on the same property where Kroenke will build the new stadium. The area went downhill after they moved to Downtown LA at the Staples Center (privately funded, thank you very much).

  50. gohawks7 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:18 AM

    But….relative to St. Louis…well, its about the same.

  51. nightryder10 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:19 AM

    Greedy old guys were blown away by the bigger bags of cash…

  52. steves11 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:22 AM

    “I think Inglewood is the hood. What are demographics”

    It is not in the best of neighborhoods, but I’m sure that the proposal contained millions of dollars worth of security measures being part of the deal.

  53. RegisHawk says: Jan 13, 2016 11:23 AM

    The LA Committee was loaded with old-timers who favored Spanos. As such, their recommendation was biased towards Carson. When the truth of the situation was seen during the presentations, the owners voted against their recommendation.

  54. macdega says: Jan 13, 2016 11:27 AM

    Hilarious to hear people from run-down, rust belt areas calling LA a cesspool.

  55. rjhnyc52 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:30 AM

    It’s a primo location, close to LA and right next to LAX airport, right off the 405 Freeway. Yes, parts of Inglewood are definitely in the hood, but the old Hollywood Park area due to it’s proximity to things is a desirable location. Carson isn’t that far away, just a few miles south down the 405. It’s centrally located as well, about 15 miles from downtown LA, Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, etc.

    ———————————————————–
    I used to go to games in the Coliseum until one of my friends got robbed and had his car stolen…
    these locations are bad…Carson has oil refineries, gangs and it’s crowded…Inglewood is hard to get to and has gangs….both are next to Compton/South Central…Bloods/Crips/Mexican Mafia and MS 13…Good Luck going to games….

  56. pastanow says: Jan 13, 2016 11:30 AM

    Oh shiny new things! Perhaps the owners should have their own reality tv show. Just wait 20 years when it isn’t so shiny and then back room deals are done to spruce the place up with public funds.

  57. iowahbr says: Jan 13, 2016 11:40 AM

    We need a pool on how many years before the RAMS threaten to leave LA and/or how quickly the NFL feels the need to return to St Louis with a franchise from elsewhere.

  58. aarownhere says: Jan 13, 2016 11:42 AM

    Somebody got blown in this whole deal

  59. dbfan4ever says: Jan 13, 2016 11:44 AM

    Let the Rams and Chargers make the move to LA and then let the Raiders move to San Antonio. Only thing better than beating down Mara, Richardson and Kraft is having Jerry Jones throw a temper tantrum because he believes having a team in San Antonio would take a large number of Cowboy fans away!!!!

  60. realdealsteel says: Jan 13, 2016 11:45 AM

    motleytrap says:
    Jan 13, 2016 10:33 AM
    What was the point of the LA committee?

    They appeared to have no influence at all.
    ————————————————————-

    Too many owners on the L.A. Committee had their own personal ax to grind against Kroneke. Taking those emotions out of it, there was no doubt who had the best Stadium concept. And at the end of the day, it should be about maximizing your money making opportunities. And after Jerry Jones put things in perspective, that’s exactly what happened.

  61. irchs1963 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:45 AM

    Bottom Line…. The NFL perspective: Its really Never about what is best for a loyal fan base. It’s ‘GREED’.

  62. jrfike2000 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:47 AM

    Yeah, Inglewood. Inglewood always up to no good…

  63. apollo1989 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:48 AM

    Bob says:
    Jan 13, 2016 10:30 AM
    Awesome to see the stadium committee, which includes Jerry Richardson, John Mara and Robert Kraft, get owned by new money. Three guys who think they run the league got essentially told to shut up by real money.
    ———————————————————————————-

    Considering Robert Kraft has been on the side of Inglewood I think he’s probably the 1 vote out of the 6 that didn’t vote for Carson.

  64. collectordude says: Jan 13, 2016 11:48 AM

    I personally don’t care where any team plays.

    JUST rich people getting richer.

    ONLY losers are the fans.

  65. daringhart13 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:49 AM

    Wait, Kevin Demoff has been lying to fans for years??

    No way!!

    LOL…the NFL=scuzz

  66. ivanpavlov0000 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:53 AM

    “Surely, you’re exaggerating,” I said to the source.

    “Stop calling me Shirley,” the source replied.

  67. pittsburghdamned says: Jan 13, 2016 11:54 AM

    The funniest part of this all is that Inglewood is basically a landfill of crack cocaine and illegal aliens.

    Congrats Stan!

  68. pbinlostangeles says: Jan 13, 2016 11:55 AM

    The Rams started in Cleveland, and moved to L.A. in 1945. Had Carroll Rosenbloom not suffered an untimely death, the Rams would have never left the Los Angeles area; Georgia screwed things up, and us locals have pined for an expansion team – to call our own – ever since.
    As for 2016, don’t know why it isn’t receiving more coverage, but fact is, the ground at the Carson site is a toxic mess, that would take additional multi-MILLIONS to clean up to the strict – often ridiculous – California pollution standards. When Lockheed moved their Skunk Works from Burbank to Palmdale, similar scenario. Difference being Lockheed had the money to clean up their old site and make the move. Lockheed had to excavate down approximately eleven feet over a five square mile area, then truck the polluted soil to a Nevada toxic waste site. Then, truck in millions of tons of clean soil.
    With the ever changing demographics in Inglewood – for the positive, with working class people forcing the gangs out, things are MUCH better, and the newly renovated Forum will be right next door.

  69. prijak1 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:55 AM

    Owners know all Raiders fans are low income and will not spend any money on tickets and merchandise. Also the Raiders fans drive away the fans with money. Thank goodness the NFL got it right ! Raiders are ghetto trash

  70. Brody Black says: Jan 13, 2016 11:57 AM

    So the owners were wowed by style over substance?

    Was it the flashy PowerPoint background? did the Rams COO wear a red tie – while the others wore blue? Did the Rams hand out SWAG?

    What was IN this proposal that was so different from the other? In my mind there’s a clear financial advantage to the NFL to move the Raiders & Chargers.

    Last I knew – moving a flagging franchise to a different city didn’t have any real impact on the level of play. Fans in St. Louis have resigned themselves to mediocre football – moving to Los Angeles won’t likely change this.

    If it was the “presentation” that made the “sale” and not the substance – I guess it would be easier than I though to scam money from certain NFL owners. Game on.

  71. i thumbs down your comment says: Jan 13, 2016 11:58 AM

    Actually, Fresno is the armpit of California

  72. TheDPR says: Jan 13, 2016 12:01 PM

    This answers a ton of the questions I had about this entire thing. Good article, Florio.

  73. getyourownname says: Jan 13, 2016 12:14 PM

    What was the point of the LA committee?
    They appeared to have no influence at all.
    ********************

    Or perhaps more accurately, they appeared to have a done a poor job (overlooking or dismissing all the apparent advantages of Inglewood proposal over Carson).

    What’s not clear from this article is why Jerry Richardson would care about one site in LA versus another.

  74. charliecharger says: Jan 13, 2016 12:15 PM

    Did they just run into a salesman?

  75. thermanmerman99 says: Jan 13, 2016 12:16 PM

    Homes in Compton are selling for millions, sounds like a real hood to me.

  76. Centered00 says: Jan 13, 2016 12:16 PM

    Between the two renderings of Carson and Inglewood, Inglewood wiped out Carson.
    The Inglewood project is an incredible, modern “L.A.” type stadium. Symmetrical, underground and unique.
    (The futuristic “Dodger Stadium” of football.)
    If Kroenke, really wanted to dominate, he could tear down the Forum and build the Clippers a “state-of-the-art” arena.
    I’m a Raiders fan, but was a Rams fan until Georgia Frontiere supposedly drowned her husband in Florida and slowly ruined the Rams organization. I am glad they are back in L.A.

  77. Kingmj4891 says: Jan 13, 2016 12:19 PM

    St. Louis and their fans are all butt hurt today. Vote out your politicians because they are ones that did this to you. Otherwise the Rams would still be under lease and in the Dome.

  78. FinFan68 says: Jan 13, 2016 12:30 PM

    If you actually have integrity, you wouldn’t need a secret ballot. Those are only good for people who would lie.

  79. leatherhelmets says: Jan 13, 2016 12:37 PM

    and you know LA up in this.

  80. vancouversportsbro says: Jan 13, 2016 12:38 PM

    Wait. Are you saying the NFL owners made the decision based on whose PowerPoint deck was better?

    ———————————

    I’m laughing. Great comment.

  81. travlinful says: Jan 13, 2016 12:45 PM

    “I’ve only heard about Inglewood from rap songs. Not exactly a good endorsement for millionaires and new starts.”

    Oh, I don’t know about that. The Rams will now have the same advantage USC has had for years. Namely, they can recruit UFAs from South Central LA who don’t have a problem hitting someone. That was thought to be SC’s big advantage vs. other Pac 12 teams.

  82. titimium says: Jan 13, 2016 12:50 PM

    It’s gosh darn shocking that no owners & very few sports writers, ESPN genius crew, media as whole failed to mention a minor detail or 2. Probably because no one cares. The St Louis, Oakland & S.D. plans (lack of good plans) involved hundreds of millions of dollars in local citizens tax dollars. Stan K may not be a charming fella but his project is coming out of his bank account. Oh probably free space for new NFL network studios is another detail too.

  83. travlinful says: Jan 13, 2016 12:52 PM

    “Once the honeymoon period in LA is over after a year, maybe two, you’ll be looking at another half empty stadium in St. Louis all over again.”

    Maybe they’ll decide to sell season tix that include seats for both teams. A 2-4-1 and fans will fill the stadium and purchase ten dollar hot dogs and such.

  84. downgoesbrady says: Jan 13, 2016 12:58 PM

    LA…please….I hear they are hiring Woody Harrelson to “play” the coach…and Matthew McConaughey to “play” the quarterback.

  85. w2lucky says: Jan 13, 2016 12:59 PM

    This is comical. Anyone who’s ever been to that party of LA knows it’s a crime zone. A bunch of rich white people trying to convince naive fans where to go watch a pro game. Not me man.

  86. danfrommv says: Jan 13, 2016 1:17 PM

    “Kroenke says he wants the new stadium to appeal to people with lower incomes.

    Yes……as they watch on television sets at home.”

    I’ll bet by “lower incomes”, he meant for people with lower incomes than him. You know, mere millionaires. He certainly wouldn’t care about the unwashed masses.

  87. danfrommv says: Jan 13, 2016 1:21 PM

    Fortunately, the Lakers have prepared fans for lousy play and no hope of contending

  88. truths4all says: Jan 13, 2016 1:35 PM

    Silly and dumb Haters.

    The Carson choice required deep amounts of public money and public oversight. AND $100 Million of NFL money for the Chargers.

    The Inglewood choice requies ZERO public money. It is all paid for with Kroenke’s private fortune with no drain to the public nor from the NFL. The 100 Million in NFL money that would have gone to the Chargers will now go to the Raiders to help them stay in Oakland.

    Its a no brainer when one owner will pay for his own stadium. Any bellyaching is pure stupidity.

  89. truths4all says: Jan 13, 2016 1:36 PM

    The Carson choice required deep amounts of public money and public oversight. AND $100 Million of NFL money for the Chargers.

    The Inglewood choice requies ZERO public money. It is all paid for with Kroenke’s private fortune with no drain to the public nor from the NFL. The 100 Million in NFL money that would have gone to the Chargers will now go to the Raiders to help them stay in Oakland.

    Its a no brainer when one owner will pay for his own stadium. Any bellyaching is pure stupidity.

  90. rankster1950 says: Jan 13, 2016 1:39 PM

    If I hit today’s powerball, I’m buying the rams and moving them back to St louis

  91. mrplow3 says: Jan 13, 2016 1:40 PM

    “Hilarious to hear people from run-down, rust belt areas calling LA a cesspool.”

    As someone who lived a good chunk of his life in LA (Torrance) I can tell you right now it is by far one of the most disgusting cities in the country. Ill take some rust belt town in PA over LA any day of the friggin week.

  92. pinkmist4 says: Jan 13, 2016 1:40 PM

    beavertonsteve says:
    Jan 13, 2016 11:05 AM
    Jeff Fisher and Nick Foles aren’t going to put a lot of butts in seats…..
    ———–
    True, I’m not sure how many fans say “I’m going to the game to see the head coach and the backup QB!”

    I think Todd Gurley and Aaron Donald will go a long ways towards attracting new fans to the Rams.

    You kinda proved my point. I do think in LA you’re gonna need better than .500 football, and as good as Gurley looks, never gonna happen with Fisher and any QB on that roster….

  93. orivar says: Jan 13, 2016 1:40 PM

    So are poor people going to be relocated again? Aka lose their homes?

  94. smasonsmith says: Jan 13, 2016 1:45 PM

    Inglewood is hard to get to and has gangs…
    ===
    It’s not that hard to get to. The 405 and 105 meet just south and you can also come from the 110 across Century Blvd.

    Gangs? Yeah….

  95. smasonsmith says: Jan 13, 2016 1:45 PM

    Actually, Fresno is the armpit of California
    ===
    Nope. Bakersfield.

  96. smasonsmith says: Jan 13, 2016 1:48 PM

    So are poor people going to be relocated again? Aka lose their homes?
    ===
    Nah. It’s using the Hollywood Park race track site. Between the parking lots, the stables, and the track itself, that’s plenty of room for an NFL stadium.

  97. smasonsmith says: Jan 13, 2016 1:48 PM

    As someone who lived a good chunk of his life in LA (Torrance) I can tell you right now it is by far one of the most disgusting cities in the country. Ill take some rust belt town in PA over LA any day of the friggin week.
    ===
    Then move.

  98. jgedgar70 says: Jan 13, 2016 1:56 PM

    Here’s the really big thing no one is saying: This was shaping up to be a real war, until Jerry Jones became the voice of calm and reason.

    Does this scare the hell out of anyone else besides me?

  99. goawayeverybody says: Jan 13, 2016 2:03 PM

    cafetero1075 says:
    Jan 13, 2016 10:37 AM
    Can someone in Calfornia explain how far from LA or how does it connect to LA.
    I think Inglewood is the hood. What are demographics.

    —————————————–

    Demographics are mixed. It is a very diverse city, with Latinos making up the majority. Parts of Inglewood are kind of “the hood” and other parts are not. I can tell you that the plot of land where this will be built will be okay. It’s freeway-close and the stadium itself will look like a palace and will have a huge, huge area around it. It will immediately bring home values way, way up in that neighborhood.

  100. travlinful says: Jan 13, 2016 2:10 PM

    “Only thing better than beating down Mara, Richardson and Kraft is having Jerry Jones throw a temper tantrum because he believes having a team in San Antonio would take a large number of Cowboy fans away!!!!”

    The only thing taking Cowboy fans away is their lousy GM/director of personnel.

  101. travlinful says: Jan 13, 2016 2:28 PM

    “If I hit today’s powerball, I’m buying the rams and moving them back to St louis”

    Well that’s a frightening thought.

    Positive proof as to why most lottery winners end up broke again in short order.

  102. stew48 says: Jan 13, 2016 2:28 PM

    Way to go, jgedgar. Right on!

  103. Silver and Black attack says: Jan 13, 2016 2:30 PM

    So the LA committee agreed the Carson project was the best option. solved the 2 worst stadium issues in the league and would let Stan use his own money to build a stdium in St. Louis. And the owners at the last minute cave in to the Billionaire.

  104. jimmyt says: Jan 13, 2016 2:39 PM

    So from people that live there it sounds like being close to LAX is a plus? A plus for who? Are you telling us that the average football fan in LA flies to and from the game?

  105. bellfamily2riverdawg says: Jan 13, 2016 2:40 PM

    The next largest TV market without an NFL team is Portland. Ranked #24, San Antonio is #32. Davis should approach Portland with a stadium proposal or even the Chargers which is currently in the #28 market.

  106. anakinflair says: Jan 13, 2016 2:48 PM

    “clemenza58 says:
    Jan 13, 2016 11:02 AM
    I hope the Rams are an abject failure in Los Angeles.”

    Well, they certainly were in St. Louis….

  107. jimmysee says: Jan 13, 2016 2:48 PM

    This is high stakes stuff — someone should remind Mr. Iger you only get one chance to make a first impression.

    He’s one and done with the NFL.

    (Kind of like the Vikings.)

  108. jjfootball says: Jan 13, 2016 2:55 PM

    THE NFL IS REALLY MESSED UP!

  109. jjfootball says: Jan 13, 2016 2:57 PM

    NFL= CORRUPTION

  110. NFL Sage says: Jan 13, 2016 2:58 PM

    Question: Are the Rams allowed to take their logo and colors with them to LA from St. Louis? Seems I remember a controversy when Irsay took the Colts logo (horseshoe) and colors (blue and white) with him to Indy.
    _______________________________________________

    There was no consideration of anyone leaving the team names +/- records when they moved until Art Modell volunteered to let Cleveland keep the Browns. There was no way that Irsay would have given Baltimore back it’s Colts (which Modell did ask about).
    Pretty scum-my move by Modell, eh?

  111. sweetnlow44 says: Jan 13, 2016 2:58 PM

    cafetero1075 says:
    Jan 13, 2016 10:37 AM

    Can someone in Calfornia explain how far from LA or how does it connect to LA.
    I think Inglewood is the hood. What are demographics.
    ________
    Yes, Inglewood is ghetto. And some areas really are as bad as the rap songs make it out to be. But it’s right next to LAX and there are nice beach areas to the north and south of there. It’s also not too far from downtown.

    Carson is ghetto too, though. It still would have been a good spot for a stadium, but it is a little further from LAX and downtown LA. But it is closer to the Long Beach airport which is the best airport in the world as far as I’m concerned.

  112. skawh says: Jan 13, 2016 2:59 PM

    Do these haters on Inglewood, and Compton, and Carson, live in cities and states that don’t possess very modest homes that cost a million? So much for “the hood.”

    If it’s private funds I’m all for it. End billionaire welfare!

  113. jjfootball says: Jan 13, 2016 3:08 PM

    OLD GUY’S WANTING MORE MONEY THAN THEY COULD POSSIBLY SPEND.

  114. radrntn says: Jan 13, 2016 3:11 PM

    at the end of the day….it’s LA……so did he really win?

    Fact is

    Warriors fans > Clippers or Lakers fans
    A’s fans > Angels fans
    Raiders Fans> Chargers fan

  115. BigAlHeBDMan says: Jan 13, 2016 4:06 PM

    bringbackorange says:
    Jan 13, 2016 10:36 AM

    So lets say the Rams do keep LA for themselves, and the chargers still have to move. Are there other destinations that might come up now? Is it possible that they even try for London or another foreign market?

    ////////////////////////////

    I hear the City of St Louis will be looking for another team. How does this sound? The St Louis Chargers.

  116. toolkien says: Jan 13, 2016 4:11 PM

    I suppose it didn’t help that Carson’s proposal had Jar Jar Binks as narrator.

  117. toolkien says: Jan 13, 2016 4:14 PM

    And as far as things being “messed up”, EVERYTHING is messed up these days. From top to bottom everything is corrupt and rigged. I think just about everybody can sense it. Unfortunately, the outgrowth of that sense is either Grandiose Schizophrenic Trump or Uncle Bernie and His Ministry of Deodorant.

  118. azpete says: Jan 13, 2016 4:22 PM

    I agree with sfmo73. St Louis did everything the NFL told them to do regarding a new stadium, but Eric Grubman said it wasn’t viable and therefore Kroenke was eligible to relocate.

    STL used a $100 mil NFL contribution as part of the financing for the stadium at the suggestion of Jerry Richardson as an offset to a tax that the NFL said they shouldn’t use. So Goodell used that as a reason for saying the STL plan was not viable. But then the NFL offered the $100 mil to San Diego and Oakland to build stadiums.

    The NFL decision regarding St Louis was based on inconsistencies and lies, but that is typical of the NFL.

  119. ramokowski says: Jan 13, 2016 4:27 PM

    Rams are heading home…welcome back!!

  120. powpow042 says: Jan 13, 2016 4:33 PM

    Fabiani’s Fantastic Road Show came up a bit short.

    Shocked…….not.

  121. scvtgrn says: Jan 13, 2016 11:18 PM

    What a boat load of smoke mirrors and bull crap. Kroenke had those votes in his pocket a year ago. The whole process was a joke.

  122. 209insider says: Jan 14, 2016 2:45 AM

    Follow the money…

    Kronke…….. Net Worth: 7.6 Billion ( his wife an additional 7 Billion)
    Spanos……..Net Worth 1.69 Billion
    Davis……….Net Worth 500 Million

  123. iowahbr says: Jan 14, 2016 10:14 AM

    The current TV money makes the local fans almost irrelevant these days in the NFL. Why would the Chargers move to be one of 2 teams in LA (which has had none for 20 years) and leave San Diego unless it was tons of NFL TV money?

    The NFL should remember that GM once sold 1 of very 2 vehicles bought here in the US and got a bit too big for it’s own britches. Not the same biz but worth noting in passing even if most billionaire NFL owners are not history buffs.

    And when will we hear the first rumors about the Raiders, the Jags, or the Titans moving to St Louis unless?

  124. jefftoons says: Jan 14, 2016 4:25 PM

    Bob Iger was out of his depth. He’s a typical corporate goon who was in a true Lion’s Den, and he got his head handed to him as he sulked away.

    He got the Disney CEO job just because Michael Eisner had eliminated all the other competition, through corporate ruthlessness. Iger was the last guy standing because he was thought to be harmless. I guess he still is. Nothing like being rejected by 30 of the riches men in the country.

    Iger’s next step is politics. He’s going to lose at that too.

  125. r8dernation says: Jan 14, 2016 4:33 PM

    This is just another league shot at the Davis family. Al had a deal in place to build a new stadium in Hollywood Park before Tagliaboob stepped in and got it shot down, which forced the Raiders to move back to Oakland.

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