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Spanos is expected to quickly embrace Inglewood

Chargers' President and CEO Spanos is pictured during a news conference at the team's NFL headquarters in San Diego Reuters

Chargers owner Dean Spanos emerged from Tuesday’s meeting with the ability to leave San Diego, but with an inability to move to the specific area of Los Angeles that he preferred. So what will he do next?

The thinking among the owners is that, once Spanos has a chance to process the opportunity in Inglewood, he’ll pounce.

Yes, it’s fair to wonder whether Rams owner Stan Kroenke will drive too hard of a bargain in the hopes of keeping a second team out of L.A. But, per multiple sources, Kroenke has promised the rest of the owners that he’ll be reasonable. Kroenke also, we’re told, has reduced to writing various commitments regarding the terms pursuant to which he’ll accept a second team in his new stadium.

As one source tells PFT, the Chargers already have begun working directly with the league to finalize the parameters for a deal in Inglewood, and the NFL will be directly involved in negotiations, if necessary.

There’s another reason for Kroenke to work something out. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Kroenke currently can’t begin selling premium products such as naming rights, club seats, PSLs, and sponsorships for his new stadium until 2017. If Kroenke makes a deal with the Chargers now, Kroenke can begin to sell premium products immediately.

The only lingering question is whether Spanos will choose to be a tenant or a partner. While partnership may be preferred, Spanos will have to be ready, willing, and able to write a check for half of the expenses required to get the stadium built. And if more of the overall development gets pulled into the partnership pot, the cost of equity and the risk that goes along with it gets even higher.

Given the $550 million relocation fee that the Chargers also would have to pay, Spanos could eventually opt to be a tenant.

Tenant or partner, it’s a deal that other owners think Spanos would be crazy not to do. As one source told PFT, “99 out of 100 would take this deal.”

The fact that Mark Davis and the Raiders will get the next crack at the deal if Dean Spanos doesn’t want it makes it even more likely that Spanos will be among the 99.

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  1. RegisHawk says: Jan 13, 2016 11:30 AM

    Spanos seems to think LA was his to do with as he wished. He was wrong.

    Spanos seems to think a city should have given him a stadium. He was wrong.

    Spanos seems to think a guy building his own stadium should let him play in it and get half the profits. He was wrong.

    If he wises up in time, he may get in on the Inglewood deal; but he has to get moving soon or Marc Davis may steal a march on him.

  2. bmack1224 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:30 AM

    Like he Really has a Choice..

  3. jpfromsd says: Jan 13, 2016 11:31 AM

    Just Stay in San Diego!!!

  4. pantherpro says: Jan 13, 2016 11:35 AM

    Chargers to LA and Raider trash to San Diego?

  5. bondlake says: Jan 13, 2016 11:36 AM

    San Diego to NFL:

    GET OUT, AND STAY OUT!!!

  6. sdnative1904 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:38 AM

    It’s like Mike has a magical crystal ball..

  7. goldiehawn9 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:39 AM

    Spanos will never partner with Kroenke.

  8. granadafan says: Jan 13, 2016 11:43 AM

    Spanos is one of the cheapest men on the planet.

  9. pastanow says: Jan 13, 2016 11:45 AM

    And the Chargers will still be irrelevant. In LA they will be the little step brother that no one notices.

  10. chicagosportsfan11 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:47 AM

    I hope LA does not get a second team

    Let them have one for a while and see how that goes

  11. tritz32 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:48 AM

    I can think of at least 1,000 other things I’d like to do on a Sunday in CA other than sitting in traffic for 3 hours to cheer on a crappy team.

    Have fun with this LA owners…

  12. TheDPR says: Jan 13, 2016 11:50 AM

    I’ve yet to see any commentary anywhere about how the committee members who recommended the Chargers/Raiders and the Carson site voted against themselves when it came down to making the actual decision on Los Angeles. What was that all about? Was the committee a facade? What changed their minds (I’m talking about committee members Clark Hunt, Robert Kraft, John Mara, Bob McNair, Jerry Richardson and Art Rooney) to cause them to vote against their own recommendation?

  13. joenash72 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:50 AM

    Kroenke will never partner with Spanos.

  14. 4drams says: Jan 13, 2016 11:51 AM

    Anything that Kroenke promises to any person on the planet should hold no water – at all.

  15. vottorific says: Jan 13, 2016 11:51 AM

    Money talks and everyone else falls in line behind this Rams dude. Even the NFL. He owns LA now.

  16. psubeerman21 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:51 AM

    Any non chargers or raiders fan really care about this anymore? I don’t care where the rams play. They are a team on TV and nothing more, and 99% of the country feels this way. Even less care about the human thumb Davis and what happens to his team. Can we get more articles on Pac man jones please? That’s what we want,

  17. waldoampere says: Jan 13, 2016 11:52 AM

    “Kroenke has promised the rest of the owners that he’ll be reasonable.”

    Billionaire businessmen are never reasonable.

  18. barrymichaels61 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:53 AM

    Stay in San Diego and let Buster Brown keep his team in Oakland.

  19. atepper001 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:54 AM

    good riddance.

    – San Diego Resident

  20. lightninglucci says: Jan 13, 2016 11:54 AM

    The Chargers and Raiders are now getting an extra 100 million if they stay, presumably from the Rams $550 million relocation fee. Why can’t the NFL up that number even more to 200 or 275? Yeah, I know why.

  21. averagejoe5050 says: Jan 13, 2016 11:55 AM

    St Louis Chargers isn’t a bad idea

  22. pantherdick says: Jan 13, 2016 12:03 PM

    Chargers are screwed. A big portion of the town is still loyal to the Raiders and old Ram fans are going to draw on the neutral onlookers. Their only option is to play in an old stadium that away fans easily take over or be the little brother team that isn’t even playing where they want.

  23. purpleguy says: Jan 13, 2016 12:04 PM

    For paying a $550M relocation fee and privately financing a 2 billion dollar stadium, there’d better be a huge dang pot of gold for 2 teams at the end of that LA rainbow. Heck, tickets to those games are probably going to be $250/game minimum, leaving nothing bunch boring rich people and corporate muckety-mucks in the stands rather than real fans.

  24. scrp2 says: Jan 13, 2016 12:04 PM

    Haha! It’s a deal with the the devil. Hence the 100 million dollars. If the league were to give Spanos serious options they would have given 200 million to work with in San Diego.

    If 99/100 would take this deal then Spanos only has one option, to be a tenant, a renter in Inglewood.

  25. mt10425 says: Jan 13, 2016 12:06 PM

    Spanos will e overmatched in any decision he makes. He’s got the street savvy of a monk. Kroenke will take him to the cleaners and steal his lunch money. Without reservation, Spanos is a boy among men.

  26. immafubared says: Jan 13, 2016 12:08 PM

    bery cornfoosing

  27. mt10425 says: Jan 13, 2016 12:09 PM

    Emperor Spanos’ new clothes-no stadium to call his own and no fan base. What a rich tool.

  28. sdchicken says: Jan 13, 2016 12:10 PM

    Spanos seems to WANT a lot…new city, public funds, new stadium, but he sure doesn’t seem to want to pay for anything?

    Quit acting like a cheap, petulant kid and just man up for once.

  29. saynt614 says: Jan 13, 2016 12:10 PM

    So did the NFL just give the middle finger to The Raiders?

    I mean come on…they play in a BASEBALL Stadium that is one year older than the FOOTBALL stadium that SD plays in.

    Heck the Edward Jones Dome is an upgrade for the Raiders.

    I rally hope the NFL has a deal in place to help The Raiders build a stadium in Oakland. They belong in Oakland.

    The City of Oakland however will not contribute any funds to help them… in fact they are at a $300 to $400 million gap.

    If Chargers and Rams relocate… they have to pay $550 million each right? Well together thats $1.1 Billion in fees.

    Perhaps the NFL agreed to loan The Raiders $300 to $400 million to close the gap and get a deal done. At least… I hope so.

  30. pastabelly says: Jan 13, 2016 12:12 PM

    granadafan says:
    Jan 13, 2016 11:43 AM
    Spanos is one of the cheapest men on the planet.
    ========================================
    The only reason the NFL was ever going to go with that Carson project was that many felt Spanos was entitled to it for being so patient with San Diego. It’s quite possible that “patience” was nothing more than Spanos trying to stick it to San Diego taxpayers. More importantly, that Carson project always looked “cheaper” and more risky than the Inglewood project, which appears to be a destination in itself. The owners should go into LA first class.

    I find it hard to believe that the cheap Spanos will ultimately pay that $550 million relocation fee. He will go back again and try to soak San Diego taxpayers.

  31. DerekCarrsGoldenArm says: Jan 13, 2016 12:13 PM

    “Kroenke also, we’re told, has reduced to writing various commitments regarding the terms pursuant to which he’ll accept a second team in his new stadium.”

    What happens when Dean Spanos chooses the “tenant” route and gets treated like a “tenant” by his “business partner” (Marcellus Wallace). What happens when the Chargers would like a wall painted powder blue but the “landlord” says it needs to stay navy blue?

    This “arrangement” has disaster written all over it, no matter what “99 out of 100” say.

    Would Jerry Jones share a stadium that Robert Kraft built and be a “tenant”? How about Daniel Snyder being a “tenant” in a stadium Mr. Microsoft built? Or Art Rooney being a “tenant” in the house that Steven Ross built? The point is it’s easy for these guys to say “Spanos would be crazy not to do it” because it’s not them.

  32. cjnunes426 says: Jan 13, 2016 12:15 PM

    So when Gooddell gave his speech yesterday about attendance in the markets of potential LA teams, he forgot to mention what attendance was like for the LA teams when they decided to leave in the past. So these “smart” owners think that not only one, but two, teams will flourish in LA? Does Spanos realize that he has one small fan base, the native San Diegan and he has done nothing but alienate them while privately pouting about how they’ve responded to that.

  33. kwjsb says: Jan 13, 2016 12:16 PM

    Take the owners out of the equation…….. This is where the names should end up….. the players can stay where they are

    1) Rams to LA
    2) Cardinals to St Louis
    3) Jaguars to Phoenix
    4) Colts to Baltimore
    5) Ravens to Indy
    6) Texans renamed the Oilers
    7) If New York is in Your name……. PLAY IN NEW YORK !!

    The space time continuum is returned to normal ……

  34. kevjamm says: Jan 13, 2016 12:16 PM

    Has this been a huge leverage shift for the city of San Diego? If I were the Mayor, I would start being a little tougher on negotiations now that I see the NFL isn’t 100% backing Spanos.

    I would offer him just a slightly better deal than what he is being offered in L.A.

  35. itswhereyourmindsat says: Jan 13, 2016 12:20 PM

    99 out of 100 huh. well if that one person is dumb enough to not take that deal it is the spanos’s.

  36. boltfan29 says: Jan 13, 2016 12:23 PM

    Makes zero sense…

    Option 1: Pay $150-$250M to stay in San Diego, have you own stadium and 3M population market to profit from.

    Option 2: Pay $550M to move, another $500+ to be a partial owner of a stadium (not developing the area) to play second fiddle to the Rams in LA all the while hope to poach a fanbase that is already loyal to the Rams (and Raiders).

    Why the heck would he want to leave SD? The fans don’t want him there, the Rams will only give him crumbs and unless he’s going to sell his team, there’s not much money to make in LA that he can’t in SD.

  37. In Teddy We Trust says: Jan 13, 2016 12:25 PM

    Tenant or partner, it’s a deal that other owners think Spanos would be crazy not to do. As one source told PFT, “99 out of 100 would take this deal.”
    ______

    So Blair Walsh would probably turn it down.

  38. uglydingo says: Jan 13, 2016 12:25 PM

    Every big decision that the NFL makes is driven by increasing profitability. The fans in St Louis and probably San Diego have been tossed because of the projections of greater profits.
    Inglewood was preferred over Carson because the NFL owners wouldn’t have to inject as much money into building the expensive stadium, Kroenke is big enough to build it.
    Spanos will probably relocate rather than inject a massive amount to rebuild in San Diego.
    When in doubt – always follow the money.

  39. kevjamm says: Jan 13, 2016 12:26 PM

    Useless stat:

    53% of the league resides in 6 states or metro areas.

    12% of the NFL is in California
    10% of the NFL is in Florida
    10% of the NFL is in NY/Jersey
    7% of the NFL is in Ohio
    7% of the NFL is in Texas
    7% of the NFL is in DC/Baltimore (30 miles)

  40. kurtrundell says: Jan 13, 2016 12:44 PM

    Why again is Spanos unwilling to take the $100 million from the NFL, throw in another $100 million in his own money (although he’s apparently cheap) and renovate Qualcom Stadium?

    KC renovated Arrowhead for a couple hundred million and it’s only 6-7 years older than Qualcom. The new Arrowhead is great.

  41. nativeraider says: Jan 13, 2016 12:47 PM

    How do territorial rights work? I mean 49ers own San Jose, Jerry says he owns San Antonio.Why wouldn’t spanos own the la market? Is there a certain amount of miles in proximity?

  42. rootpain says: Jan 13, 2016 12:49 PM

    These deals were already done. We are just being played as if any of the owners really cared about the fans. It’s only about money and that is all it has ever been and that is the only aspect about fan involvement that the owners care about. It’s pretty disgusting but it always comes down to that.
    And of course, the timing was all contrived as well. Takes away focus from the Brady appeal which the NFL will lose. And takes away interest from the SuperBowl just in case the Patriots win.
    Sad, sad, sad. Past the point of no return.

  43. granadafan says: Jan 13, 2016 12:49 PM

    The NFL screwed themselves. Kroenke is using his own money to build a stadium in LA. The Chargers claimed they had a Powerpoint presentation to build a privately funded stadium in Carson. Now taxpayers are more wise to the fact that these NFL owners can afford their OWN stadiums and should stop exorting/ blackmailing taxpayers.

    If Kroenke really wanted to stay in St Louis he would have used his billions to build his own stadium. Same with Spanos.

  44. rajbais says: Jan 13, 2016 12:50 PM

    Only because he burned bridges in San Diego.

    I was only in support of the Chargers going to L.A. if they would team up with the Raiders. It’s an AFC West rivalry that creates excitement within the area and brings energy.

    Now, he might be making a bad business investment because 30% of his season ticket holders are in L.A. That alone is a business failure red flag.

  45. awdlmd says: Jan 13, 2016 12:50 PM

    Spanos will need to learn to address his new boss Kroenke as sir.

  46. kchoya says: Jan 13, 2016 12:52 PM

    I can think of at least 1,000 other things I’d like to do on a Sunday in CA other than sitting in traffic for 3 hours to cheer on a crappy team.

    Like sit in traffic for 3 hours to get to the beach.
    Or sit in traffic for 3 hours to go to Disneyland.
    Or sit in traffic for 3 hours… oh, you get the point.

    Seriously, the greater LA metro area has nearly 20 million people. Only 70,000 to 80,000 need to show up for 16 days out of the year. Not too tough.

  47. kevpft says: Jan 13, 2016 12:56 PM

    So the Chargers could stay in SD, save the $550 mil and get another $100 mil from the NFL – which, combined, covers most of a new stadium – and have a market all to themselves. or they could be the “other” team in someone else’s stadium.

    If the really wanna be the Jets – the “other” team in a big market – I guess it’s their call.

  48. chipper41 says: Jan 13, 2016 12:56 PM

    none of this makes any sense…why do the chargers get first option over the raiders. The raiders have a huge fan base in LA. all this speculation sounds like a bunch of BS to me.

    Chargers get a year to get the stadium done in SD and get 100M to help make it happen.

    The Raider wink wink have been told not to worry that San Diego isn’t taking that deal – its just leverage and you get to go back to LA in 2 years. Why else would Mark Davis accept this?

  49. howiehandles says: Jan 13, 2016 1:04 PM

    L.A. has lost enough teams. Keep the Chargers and Raiders where they’re at. I’m sure the Rams will leave again in 15 years when they decide they again need a new stadium.

  50. daramsman says: Jan 13, 2016 1:04 PM

    Someone will be in court with Stan and/or the NFL real soon! Because thats were all of his deals end up.

  51. txndave says: Jan 13, 2016 1:11 PM

    Sorry to all you chargers fans out there. I was young when the Oilers left from down here in Houston. But as a diehard Texans fan, if there were a chance they would be leaving, it would suck on so many levels.

  52. jimmysee says: Jan 13, 2016 1:19 PM

    Kroenke is ready to drive a hard bargain — it’ll be the Los Angeles Rams, and the Inglewood Chargers.

  53. raiderrob21 says: Jan 13, 2016 1:21 PM

    Simply put…

    Money talks and BS walks.

    From the local playground to Billionaire NFL owners.

    Stan Kroenke craps Mark Davis and wipes with Dean Spanos

  54. usdiveteam says: Jan 13, 2016 1:23 PM

    Move to San Antonio! Texas is football. Makes more sense to have 3 teams in Texas than 4 in Cali. Not saying anything bad about the state just saying SA already has a stadium & the city said they would do whatever it took to build or add on. Just saying…

  55. jimmysee says: Jan 13, 2016 1:27 PM

    howiehandles says:
    Jan 13, 2016 1:04 PM

    L.A. has lost enough teams. Keep the Chargers and Raiders where they’re at. I’m sure the Rams will leave again in 15 years when they decide they again need a new stadium.

    ————————————————————

    Except one thing, Howie — the city or state is not building the stadium — Kroenke is. With his own dough. If he walks away, he’s walking away from his own investment. No public money involved in this one.

  56. clickablecontent says: Jan 13, 2016 1:39 PM

    If there’s such a thing as competition for fans, Chargers should agree to – and announce – a move ASAP. Every day the hype builds here in LA about the Rams is a day fewer of us jumping on another team’s bandwagon.

  57. boltboner says: Jan 13, 2016 1:54 PM

    So walk away from free public money in San Diego, $300mil from the NFL…. to invest likely 1billion to share a stadium??

    They want to talk about this being all business, but there is no guarantee they can create a fanbase in LA, and he would be walking away from free money.. but this is a guy who fired a 14-2 coach to keep the GM… and we all know how that turned out.

  58. realdealsteel says: Jan 13, 2016 2:02 PM

    New Mexico needs a pro football team. Go there.

  59. vetdana says: Jan 13, 2016 2:07 PM

    Seriously, the greater LA metro area has nearly 20 million people. Only 70,000 to 80,000 need to show up for 16 days out of the year. Not too tough.

    They are NOT going to show up ! HIGH PRICED PSl’S AND TICKET PRICES are going to keep them at home or , in those Beach lines….by the way I lived out there many years and I never spent three hours getting to the Beach.LA will never support the Chargers, never ! and once the luster on the new penny [ New Stadium] wears off, they wont support the Rams either ! How many times do teams have to move away from LA before people believe it is not a great revenue center.This is a deal made with the devil and he always comes to collect !

  60. mackcarrington says: Jan 13, 2016 2:07 PM

    There is still hope that the Chargers & Raiders can remain in their cities. The narrative will now shift to St. Louis as having two franchises “fail” there. Of course it’s for the same reason that teams left LA, but people still like to spout the “lack of fan support” fallacy.

  61. olskool711 says: Jan 13, 2016 2:15 PM

    granadafan says:

    “Spanos is one of the cheapest men on the planet.”

    A slumlord who destroys homeowners neighborhoods by building low quality apartments. How did he constantly get approval from city and county commissions all those years?

    A guy who has never given the city of San Diego what they deserve or need. Spanos Inc deserves no loyalty or favors from any of the owners or anyone remotely attached to the City of San Diego.

    He has made a fortune as a blood sucking parasite.

    Sincerely,

    The Opinion of 90% of San Diegans, Las Vegans, and anybody else he’s leached from.

  62. @Cereal_5 says: Jan 13, 2016 2:19 PM

    Turning my back on this league if the Chargers leave SD….not a Chargers fan.

  63. olskool711 says: Jan 13, 2016 2:20 PM

    Actually, the best possible scenario for Charger fans would be get Spano’s (three letter word for booty) out of town and keep the Charger name.

    Hope for a new stadium, a real owner, and a new version of the old Super Chargers.

  64. bearssuck says: Jan 13, 2016 2:27 PM

    Re Spono stay where you are. Don’t be a Malaka and leave!

  65. fm31970 says: Jan 13, 2016 2:31 PM

    “The fact that Mark Davis and the Raiders will get the next crack at the deal ”

    Or not:

    “The Raiders congratulate Stan Kroenke and the Rams on their successful bid for relocation to Los Angeles. The Raiders will now turn our attention to exploring all options to find a permanent stadium solution. We thank fans throughout the Raider Nation for their unrivaled passion and support.”

  66. greg3117 says: Jan 13, 2016 2:34 PM

    I can’t wait for the drama to end. One less thing for the league to threaten municipalities about. Sad they try to hold a place hostage over using tax payers money to fund a billionaires playground.

  67. patsfan2112 says: Jan 13, 2016 3:05 PM

    Will Dean Spanos join Stan Kroenke and Robert Kraft in the club of private ownership?

  68. leef2020 says: Jan 13, 2016 3:21 PM

    If Spanos wants his own stadium and San Diego won’t give it to him on the terms he wants (not sure he’s being realistic), he really should look at options just north in Orange County. This is where the Rams last played and can indeed support a team.

    Not many people in OC, let alone San Diego will want to drive into LA/Inglewood up the 405, 110, or 91 freeways to get to that stadium, imho.

    By putting a stadium in South OC or the Tustin area, he would have a ton of support not only from fans in OC, but allow fans in SD to make a much more reasonable 70-90 mile haul up the 405.

  69. BIG RED says: Jan 13, 2016 3:36 PM

    BRILLIANT!

  70. jmoney74 says: Jan 13, 2016 3:38 PM

    @leef2020.. good idea but can’t happen. NFL made them agree that they would adhere to the vote. So they only have the options of joining the Rams, staying in SD, or just flat out moving somewhere else (which would require another owners vote).

  71. senioreditor2 says: Jan 13, 2016 3:41 PM

    If I were Spanos, I’d make a 50/50 partnership deal with Kroenke in Inglewood and then sell the team. I assume he could recoup the cost of relocation by the increased value of the team and he’d be off the hook for the development cost of the new stadium. My guess is he pockets nearly 2 billion in any sale.

  72. stlouisfan says: Jan 13, 2016 3:57 PM

    Why not save the $550 million and stay in SD ? He will be eaten alive , again , by Stan. Stan has proven he will get what he wants , right or wrong. He will lie , cheat and pay his way to win.(except on the field) A deal with him and the Chargers will always be second fiddle. Dean stay in SD or sell the team . As much as I hate him and hate to say this , Stan is now king of the NFL owners.

  73. whereyaat says: Jan 13, 2016 4:05 PM

    @leef2020
    It is a good idea, I’ve always wondered why they never considered moving into the south O.C. God knows it’s got a huge population full of Chargers supporters, with the only unpopulated parts being the military base and the nature preserves.

  74. whereyaat says: Jan 13, 2016 4:09 PM

    Keep in mind that Dean Spanos is the same guy who sold us the idea that Arnold Schwarzenegger would be a great governor. How’d that turn out again?

  75. theofficialshotcaller says: Jan 13, 2016 4:16 PM

    How about these money grubbing trash pay for something themselves for once?

  76. ninerfan94954 says: Jan 13, 2016 4:25 PM

    Listened to a guy from San Diego this morning, Hacksaw Hamilton, on an SF radio station. He trashed Spanos for almost 5 minutes about the way he treated San Diego during this whole process. He did the same to Spanos attorney. It was brutal. If half of what he said was true and I’m Spanos, it’s LA here I come. Crushed him.

  77. buckyhamm says: Jan 13, 2016 4:42 PM

    Spanos is a bum … sell the team to somebody who wants to stay in San Diego !!!!

  78. it's not gold.....it's yellow says: Jan 13, 2016 4:44 PM

    kevjamm says:
    Jan 13, 2016 12:26 PM
    Useless stat:

    53% of the league resides in 6 states or metro areas.

    12% of the NFL is in California
    10% of the NFL is in Florida
    10% of the NFL is in NY/Jersey
    7% of the NFL is in Ohio
    7% of the NFL is in Texas
    7% of the NFL is in DC/Baltimore (30 miles)

    *****

    Those numbers would be 50% – you don’t add up the percentages – those are 16 or the 32 teams. And – it is actually now 56% in 7 states or metro areas….You forgot 7% in Pennsylvania.

    The numbers before yesterday were still 56% – but in 8 states or metro areas – California had 10% and Missouri had 7%.

  79. daytontriangles says: Jan 13, 2016 4:54 PM

    Spanos, you lost the vote 30-2!

    You have no friends in the NFL. And it’s never going to get any better for you.

    Sell the team to someone who wants to keep it in San Diego.

  80. iowahbr says: Jan 13, 2016 5:14 PM

    LA didn’t really need any NFL team for 20 years and now they need two of them?

  81. ivanpavlov0000 says: Jan 13, 2016 5:17 PM

    TheDPR says:

    I’ve yet to see any commentary anywhere about how the committee members who recommended the Chargers/Raiders and the Carson site voted against themselves when it came down to making the actual decision on Los Angeles
    ————————–
    There’s a story here on PFT about this. Essentially it came down to the presentations given by Kroenke’s people vs. the presentation by Spanos/Davis. Supposedly one was positively mindblowing while the other looked like it was cobbled together at the last minute by interns.

  82. powpow042 says: Jan 13, 2016 5:28 PM

    Doubtful.
    Staying in SD.

  83. daramsman says: Jan 13, 2016 5:36 PM

    For paying a $550M relocation fee and privately financing a 2 billion dollar stadium, there’d better be a huge dang pot of gold for 2 teams at the end of that LA rainbow. Heck, tickets to those games are probably going to be $250/game minimum, leaving nothing bunch boring rich people and corporate muckety-mucks in the stands rather than real fans.
    __________________________________________
    ^^^^^This!

  84. sandiegoparrothead says: Jan 13, 2016 5:48 PM

    Please, please,please stop repeating Spanos’ (and Flabiani’s) BS line about 25-30% of their fan base is in Orange/LA & Riverside counties.

    It’s a made up fact that they used to “claim” an LA market. They have never proven it.

    And never will – because it’s not true.

  85. dabears7190 says: Jan 13, 2016 5:49 PM

    I guess I’m bad at math. You can afford a $500m relocation fee to move somewhere else and rent a stadium from another NFL team owner for the rest of your days, but you can’t afford to build a $600m stadium with your own money that you can call your own?

    And the NFL is handing you $100m to help you out with funding your own stadium and you still would rather share space and customers with someone else?

    It just doesn’t make sense at all.

  86. danfrommv says: Jan 13, 2016 7:08 PM

    “LA didn’t really need any NFL team for 20 years and now they need two of them?”

    LA doesn’t need them. With a few exceptions, LA doesn’t really want them. After a couple of losing seasons, LA won’t support them.

    But all of that is OK. Because NO TAX DOLLARS ARE AT STAKE HERE.

  87. damacnut says: Jan 14, 2016 1:25 AM

    sdchicken, you NAILED it when you stated

    “Spanos seems to WANT a lot…new city, public funds, new stadium, but he sure doesn’t seem to want to pay for anything? Quit acting like a cheap, petulant kid and just man up for once.”

    What he is MISSING ENTIRELY is that VERY FEW football fans want the Chargers in Los Angeles!!! They BARELY want them down here in San Diego, but after 55 years of gestation in Mission Valley, they have grown a lot of roots over the years with lots of history (Fouts, Winslow, Seau, Tomlinson, et al etc.).

    But the fact of the matter is that he is FORCING himself upon the peeps of Los Angeles, and now that he doesn’t have any stadium leverage without the Carson facility, he has dramatically weakened his team’s position, and his financial one as well.

    His BEST bet is to work out an arrangement with the city of San Diego, a community which generally supports its Chargers, and over time, once the new stadium is built, will embrace and fall in love with again, just as we did with the Padres in Petco Park in 2004. A new stadium will further revitalize downtown San Diego, and as well will give Spanos a monopoly in the market that is BEST suited for this team. Los Angeles is a BIG mistake, and the Rams are clearly the team that belong there … NOT the Chargers NOR the Raiders.

  88. drewsd says: Jan 14, 2016 3:47 AM

    Been a Chargers season ticket holder for 20 years. The Spanos family has always been about the money. There is no love for the city of San Diego in this family.
    Dean Spanos saw big dollar signs and his goal was to eventually sell the team for a big pay day. Moving to the LA market made his payday even bigger. He “THOUGHT” he had the upper hand in all of this, but the Spanos family in comparison to Stan Kronkie is Cash Poor.
    Dean took a very big gamble here. He has alienated his current fan base, said awful things about the city and put the city on the hook for millions in what are now “Bogus” Environmental studies when he had no intention of staying here. Now he is in a lose – lose situation regardless. There are too many in the city of San Diego that do not want him here anymore and the money needed to build a new stadium here would still need a vote, which will not pass with the Spanos family as the owners. As a “PAST” season ticket holder now, even if they came back, I would not renew my tickets. It is time for the Spanos family to leave San Deigo.
    He really has to sleep in his own crap now. His choices are bow to Kronkie and take what he gives him. Lease and be a second rate team. Move to another city, or sell the team and have it sty in San Diego. The Stadium deal on the ballot will not pass NOW, after all that has happened with Dean Spanos as the owner. The only way the Chargers could stay in San Diego is if he sold the team and that is only if he didn’t choose any of those other options first.
    What’s funny is, I’ve been in Californis for 40 years. LA has always been a big market, but people in LA have never supported football. Maybe 1 team has a chance, but 2 teams is a joke. All I can say is now that San Diego is gone (And they are gone) good riddance. Don’t come back here.

  89. iowahbr says: Jan 14, 2016 10:16 AM

    The current TV money makes the local fans almost irrelevant these days in the NFL. Why would the Chargers move to be one of 2 teams in LA (which has had none for 20 years) and leave San Diego unless it was tons of NFL TV money?

    The NFL should remember that GM once sold 1 of very 2 vehicles bought here in the US and got a bit too big for it’s own britches. Not the same biz but worth noting in passing even if most billionaire NFL owners are not history buffs.

    And when will we hear the first rumors about the Raiders, the Jags, or the Titans moving to St Louis unless?

  90. stlouisfan says: Jan 14, 2016 10:48 AM

    Its time for this to end. Spanos and Davis need to get deals done. Either stay in your home markets or sell the teams. If they cant afford to build their own stadiums or get a deal done with help from their current cities , then they shouldn’t own the teams. Stop dragging this out and do something. Neither owner has any leverage. San Antonia is not an option. Jerry Jones will never let that happen. Sounds like neither wants STL. Im not sure STL is in the market for a team unless the owner is paying for it after what the NFL did with the Rams. London ? Really ? No one is going to London. So ………. Stay where you are at or sell . Get it done.

  91. joec44 says: Jan 14, 2016 7:28 PM

    stlouisfan says:
    Jan 14, 2016 10:48 AM

    Its time for this to end. Spanos and Davis need to get deals done. Either stay in your home markets or sell the teams. If they cant afford to build their own stadiums or get a deal done with help from their current cities , then they shouldn’t own the teams. Stop dragging this out and do something. Neither owner has any leverage. San Antonia is not an option. Jerry Jones will never let that happen. Sounds like neither wants STL. Im not sure STL is in the market for a team unless the owner is paying for it after what the NFL did with the Rams. London ? Really ? No one is going to London. So ………. Stay where you are at or sell . Get it done.
    ———————————–
    Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the owners state that the proposal from St. Louis not good enough? No team is moving there and playing in the EJD. Also, any relocation is voted on, it’s not just up to Jerrah and these owners aren’t selling anything.

  92. stlouisfan says: Jan 15, 2016 11:01 AM

    joec44……..What part of my post sadi anything about either team moving to STL ? I said they were not interested in moving to STL. The only way a team will be in STL is if the owner pays for it. Neither will pay anything. Davis doesn’t have enough money to build anything anywhere and he has no options . He is not going to San Antonio. If you think Jerry Jones doesn’t have some say in that , you are wrong. He will not let another team come to Texas unless he gets something out of it. Have you been following any of the relocation ? Have you not seen the power play from Jerry and Stan ? They won . Spanos and Davis lost. They have no option unless Dean goes to LA ,works something out with SD or sells the team. Davis has less options. He has to hope Spanos does not go to LA and he gets to go or play in Oakland in a run down baseball stadium. He has no money ( in NFL owners terms ) to do anything else. Both those owners did not read this very well. The NFL used them to get Stan to LA. I think the NFL has put both but especially Davis in a position that the only thing he can do is sell . There is a new King of California and he is from Missouri. I hate it.

  93. iowahbr says: Jan 15, 2016 11:44 AM

    What about a NFL rule stating that if you own an NFL team you have to agree to live in that city for at least 250 days a year.

  94. vetdana says: Jan 15, 2016 12:26 PM

    The current TV money makes the local fans almost irrelevant these days in the NFL. Why would the Chargers move to be one of 2 teams in LA (which has had none for 20 years) and leave San Diego unless it was tons of NFL TV money?

    The problem with this argument is “….the NFLand Networks under contract, cannot stand to have empty stadiums shown on televised games.This would be a big concern and have a great potential to reduce the ” TV Money ” package to the Networks.

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