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Are Patriots deliberately overstating Gronkowski’s injuries?

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On Wednesday, Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski was limited in practice with a knee injury. On Thursday, he didn’t practice at all.

Conflicting reports then emerged as to whether Gronk received a knee injection, with ESPN claiming he did and the league-owned media conglomerate claiming he didn’t.

Then came the official Thursday injury report, which added a back injury to the knee injury for Gronkowski, creating the impression that he’s spontaneously coming apart at the seams.

On Thursday night, here’s what a source with knowledge of how the Patriots do business said when it comes to the high-stakes, single-elimination nature of the postseason: “Don’t buy into it.”

In other words, there’s a chance that the Patriots are deliberately overstating Gronkowski’s health condition in an effort to confuse the Chiefs as they finalize a game plan for Saturday.

If true, it’s sort of brilliant. No one ever gets investigated or punished for putting too much on the injury report; the NFL only acts (and rarely at best) when a team fails to disclose enough. If a team discloses too much or otherwise makes the situation seem worse than it is, nothing happens.

And if, in this particular case, it causes the Chiefs to assume that they’ll see an impaired Gronkowski when in fact he’ll be fine, the Patriots could find a way to take advantage of that defect in game planning to get out to an early lead and, sooner than later, to deliver a knockout blow to the hottest team in football, which has now won 11 in a row.

With receiver Julian Edelman likely to return after missing seven games with a broken bone in his foot, the Chiefs have to figure out how to defend both Edelman and Gronkowski, far and away the two most potent weapons in quarterback Tom Brady’s arsenal. Given the potent Kansas City pass rush, coupled with injuries on the New England offensive line, Brady will need to get rid of the ball quickly.

So, yes, it could be a ruse. And, yes, information about injections to the knee may have been exaggerated and/or flat-out fabricated in order to, at a minimum, keep the Chiefs in the dark for as long as possible regarding whether and to what extent Gronkowski will play.

The next clue comes later on Friday, when the Patriots disclose whether Gronkowski practiced on Friday and apply a label to his availability. At best, he’ll be questionable. If the Patriots really want to mess with the Chiefs, they’ll possibly list him as doubtful.

Either way, there’s a chance the typically tight-lipped Patriots have opted to go the other way in this case, in the hopes of creating even the slightest edge as New England tries to advance yet again to the NFL’s final four.

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161 Responses to “Are Patriots deliberately overstating Gronkowski’s injuries?”
  1. crazyaboutthepigskin says: Jan 15, 2016 8:34 AM

    The 2015-16 Middle Finger Tour Continues…

  2. hawks1124 says: Jan 15, 2016 8:35 AM

    Yes

  3. kissbillsrings says: Jan 15, 2016 8:38 AM

    Haaaaaa haaaaa haaaaa
    Too funny…..
    The Patriots are in EVERYONES head
    Then again after reading so any of the comments on almost every Patriots article it’s EASY to see why…..
    Jedi mind tricks only work on the feeble minded!!!!
    Lol!!!
    Go Pats!!!!!

  4. gronkasaurus says: Jan 15, 2016 8:40 AM

    OMG Belichick is a genius. Putting an mild to non-existent injury on the injury report?! What a novel idea! It’s almost like having Brady’s shoulder on there for 7 years. That threw everyone off every week. Teams had no idea who to prepare for.

  5. whywerule says: Jan 15, 2016 8:40 AM

    …Conflicting reports then emerged as to whether Gronk received a knee injection, with ESPN claiming he did and the league-owned media conglomerate claiming he didn’t…

    ESPN is also essentially a league-owned media conglomerate, so that sounds like a civil war.

  6. glaedrfly says: Jan 15, 2016 8:41 AM

    Yes.

  7. TheWizard says: Jan 15, 2016 8:41 AM

    I doubt it. It’s been pretty clear to me this year he hasn’t looked 100%.

  8. infectorman says: Jan 15, 2016 8:42 AM

    Here’s the deal.

    Andy Reid is very much the opposite of your of your average crybaby NFL fans out there who continue to whine about the Patriots. He is light years more intelligent.
    He knows Gronk is fine and is expecting a 100% Gronk massacre against his team.
    That’s what he’s preparing his players for.

    The overstatement of Gronks’ injuries is to continue to burrow the Patriots mysterious aura deeper and deeper into the small minds of the haters out there, who live and breathe to make asinine posts about the Pats playing fast and loose with the rule.

    I hope they are overstating them….intentionally, because it only bolsters our Black Hat NFL persona and there’s not a single thing the crybabies can do about it…..except cry.

    NFL Crybabies: Have tissues. Will Cry

  9. TylerHills says: Jan 15, 2016 8:42 AM

    When I heard about the knee issue it seemed kind of odd and out of place. Then as soon as I heard about this back issue I pondered the same thought. It’s quite clever and that the same time so simple. The fact that we haven’t heard of teams trying this in the past surprises me. Will be a good game either way. I personally am hoping for a KC victory.

  10. pointtwopsiistheissue says: Jan 15, 2016 8:44 AM

    Meanwhile the Colts NEVER bothered to put Lucks fractured ribs on the injury report, yet no fine or investigation for NOT reporting an injury. The Patriots do what they are supposed to and still get criticized .Talk about a double standard!!

  11. gysot says: Jan 15, 2016 8:45 AM

    *

  12. BradyRunsYourTeam says: Jan 15, 2016 8:45 AM

    They will be deliberately, and publicly beating KC into the ground, and ending their short lived 12 game honeymoon.

    That’s what they will be deliberately doing. Pats D under rated, Chiefs D over rated, absolutely no comparison on offense.

    A fully healthy pats team is not losing at home to the Chiefs, keep pretending.

  13. jae121704 says: Jan 15, 2016 8:45 AM

    “So, yes, it could be a ruse. And, yes, information about injections to the knee may have been exaggerated and/or flat-out fabricated in order to, at a minimum, keep the Chiefs in the dark for as long as possible regarding whether and to what extent Gronkowski will play.”

    This story didnt come from the Patriots…It was a “source”

  14. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Jan 15, 2016 8:46 AM

    The Broncos are preparing as though Big Ben is playing. If the Chiefs don’t prepare as though Gronk is playing, well that’s on them.

  15. dickshotdogs says: Jan 15, 2016 8:46 AM

    This is awesome. I love Belichiick. Simply the best. That is all.

  16. troy43mvp says: Jan 15, 2016 8:47 AM

    i would rather have him on the practice field rather than the hospital.

  17. nyjfan111 says: Jan 15, 2016 8:47 AM

    Does it matter? Any team that plays the Patriots should assume that Gronk is at full health because he’s a major offensive threat regardless, and any team that doesn’t deserves to lose.

  18. richcranium2112 says: Jan 15, 2016 8:47 AM

    Come on Beli-cheat and the Fake-triots would NEVER, EVER provide misinformation.

    Would they?

  19. edaniel82 says: Jan 15, 2016 8:47 AM

    The Steelers are doing the same with Big Ben, I think the ligament tear is a smoke screen to try to get Denver to game plan for short throws.

  20. PATRIOTSDYNASTYLIVES says: Jan 15, 2016 8:48 AM

    The Patriots do nothing right in the eyes of the public, why would this be any different. They win all the time so they must be doing something wrong. If they dont say anything about injuries , they get slammed, they report injuries and they get slammed….they cant win for trying and you people wonder why Belichick acts like he does……….

  21. getyourownname says: Jan 15, 2016 8:49 AM

    Belichick has been doing this forever. Why are people acting like its news now?

  22. ctiggs says: Jan 15, 2016 8:49 AM

    It does not matter if he plays are not. The Real Alex Smith will “please stand up” for this game. Historically I’d root for anyone over the pats but not Alex. #Nobodyhasitbetter

  23. ajbully says: Jan 15, 2016 8:50 AM

    In the grand scheme of things is this a big deal??? Of course not, but why can’t the Patriots just ever line up their 11 guys against their opponents 11 guys and see who the better team is? This team is just insufferable sometimes.

  24. floratiotime says: Jan 15, 2016 8:51 AM

    No way. That would be cheating. And we all know they never cheat. Ask their fans.

  25. clelek05 says: Jan 15, 2016 8:51 AM

    I’ve been saying this since Week 16… Patriots are playing opossum. I’m telling you, they are going to look like they did early on in the season. Besides, dabbling in synthetic marijuana, the Patriots spent the last month preparing for tomorrow’s game. They’ll be ready.

  26. jimmyt says: Jan 15, 2016 8:53 AM

    Gee, ya think?

  27. butwhatabouttheintegrityofthegame says: Jan 15, 2016 8:54 AM

    the media wants to dissect everything the pats do from breathe air to taking a crap to see if it helps them on the field.

  28. lgw91s says: Jan 15, 2016 8:54 AM

    The injury report is something that Belichick has the utmost disdain for. And rightfully so. A sport that requires you to disclose any weakness to your opponents – to assist gamblers.

  29. annes22 says: Jan 15, 2016 8:56 AM

    Why would anyone other than a Patriot believe it. They “can’t lie in bed straight” so to believe any of it is ridiculous. The Chiefs won’t believe it either.

  30. conormacleod says: Jan 15, 2016 8:56 AM

    No news here. The Chiefs will assume he is playing. If he doesn’t, great! I don’t think it will throw their defense in disarray.

  31. dryzzt23 says: Jan 15, 2016 8:57 AM

    So the media (and the players and the De Smith’s NFLPA) complains when teams understate injuries on the injury report, now the same people complain about alleged “overstating” injuries?

    PFT wants it’s cake…..

  32. flash1287 says: Jan 15, 2016 8:57 AM

    I hope that’s what they are doing and I hope it gets the CRYBABIES (the same handful of trolls that post the same lame comments on every Patriots article) all worked up!

  33. camdenyard says: Jan 15, 2016 8:58 AM

    You are assuming that the Chiefs are a bunch of idiots that just fell off the turnip truck. Of course they are preparing as if Gronk is 100% healthy. They know the game Belicheat is playing. And so does everyone else.

    Just like the Broncos are preparing to see a 100% Big Ben. But that’s another conversation.

  34. losingisnotanoption says: Jan 15, 2016 8:58 AM

    Or is it an attempt to make everyone think its an attempt to try to trick everyone into thinking the Patriots are overstating things when in fact they are not.

  35. zombiepatriot says: Jan 15, 2016 9:01 AM

    The tin foil hats are coming out. It must be playoff season.

  36. dryden74 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:01 AM

    This seems like a ridiculous report. Gronk re-injured his knee, so they’re resting him in the hope that he’ll be ready for Saturday. Have you watched him play the last two games – he’s clearly not himself.

  37. ReligionIsForIdiots says: Jan 15, 2016 9:02 AM

    One and done as usual.

  38. marima07 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:03 AM

    Let’s just say I’ve learned not to outright accept any more unnamed ‘sources close to the team’ reports.

    If you listen to Ben Roethlisberger, he’ll be playing Sunday (if he can crawl off his deathbed) with his throwing shoulder hanging on by a single tendon.

    Broncos aren’t buying that ‘source close to the team’ either.

  39. majormalphunktion says: Jan 15, 2016 9:03 AM

    but why can’t the Patriots just ever line up their 11 guys against their opponents 11 guys and see who the better team is?
    ———————————————————-
    Like Superbowl 49?

  40. steelpenguin6687 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:03 AM

    Ya think? The NFL injury report is purely designed for sports betting…there is zero logical reason that a team would tell the opponent its weak spot before the game…I think it should be abandoned all together.

  41. richcranium2112 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:03 AM

    Just pull on your boots for anything coming from New England!

  42. jbdvks says: Jan 15, 2016 9:03 AM

    Regardless of what’s on who’s report, or who’s on first, KC’s game plan is set in stone. Blanket Rob and Edelman.

  43. qbarrel says: Jan 15, 2016 9:04 AM

    Taking a page out of the Steelers playbook? Seriously, this isn’t Andy Reid’s first rodeo and I seriously doubt that Belichick would insult his intelligence by faking injuries in the hope that the Chiefs will somehow alter their gameplan with regard to Gronkowski. Any seasoned opposing HC is going to gameplan for a healthy Gronk. To do anything else would be playoff suicide.

  44. kissbillsrings says: Jan 15, 2016 9:05 AM

    ajbully says:
    Jan 15, 2016 8:50 AM
    In the grand scheme of things is this a big deal??? Of course not, but why can’t the Patriots just ever line up their 11 guys against their opponents 11 guys and see who the better team is? This team is just insufferable sometimes.
    ============================
    Actually they do & have been doing so for 15 years now….
    & they usually are the better team

  45. dogdaze123 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:05 AM

    It’s only brilliant if your team doesn’t have a history of playing fast and loose with the rules or you have lived in a vacuum during the Belichick era. A head coach would be an idiot to fall for this. Brilliant is a little overstated….

  46. pete2112 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:05 AM

    Why would a team with such integrity and moral values do such a deliberate act of defiance.

    All of you Pats fans kick and scream every time something like this is brought up, but sometimes perception is reality and when you’ve had a seedy history of these types acts in the past you become an easy target. Stop crying and deal with it.

  47. Unchained81 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:05 AM

    I hope so!

    Can’t wait to watch the real 2015 Patriots return to the field and lay damage to the three teams in their way to a REPEAT.

  48. piratefreedom says: Jan 15, 2016 9:07 AM

    This is nonsense.

    Coaches like Reid and Belichick prepare their teams for every guy who isn’t actually out regardless of whatever else is on the injury report.

    KC will game plan to stop Gronk first no matter what NE might say.
    If Gronk is hurting that just means the plan will probably work.

  49. realitycheckbaby says: Jan 15, 2016 9:07 AM

    ctiggs says:
    Jan 15, 2016 8:49 AM

    It does not matter if he plays are not. The Real Alex Smith will “please stand up” for this game. Historically I’d root for anyone over the pats but not Alex. #Nobodyhasitbetter
    =========

    Niners are irrelevant.

    Carry on.

  50. Kaz says: Jan 15, 2016 9:09 AM

    You mean like the Steelers and Big Ben?

  51. qbarrel says: Jan 15, 2016 9:09 AM

    ajbully says:
    Jan 15, 2016 8:50 AM
    In the grand scheme of things is this a big deal??? Of course not, but why can’t the Patriots just ever line up their 11 guys against their opponents 11 guys and see who the better team is?

    ———————-

    There is not one team in the NFL that does that – just line up their 11 guys and play. Everyone, and I mean everyone is looking for an advantage and often that means walking the line or wading into gray areas of the rulebook to find one. To think otherwise is to be exceedingly naive.

  52. rollotomasi14 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:10 AM

    Why more’s likely to happen. KC’s win streak ending or the Pat’s at home losing a third game in a row?

  53. rhamrhoddy says: Jan 15, 2016 9:11 AM

    richcranium2112 says:
    Jan 15, 2016 8:47 AM

    Come on Beli-cheat and the Fake-triots would NEVER, EVER provide misinformation.
    __________________

    HI-Yoooo!!

    Thats GOLD Jerry, gold!

  54. rollotomasi14 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:13 AM

    Seriously, KC was given the ball 4 times from Hoyer in the first half against the Texans and none of them were converted into a TD by the KC offense. KC’s offense didn’t score a TD until late in the 3rd quarter. So good luck with all that.

  55. paulrevereshorse1775 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:14 AM

    If the Patriots had issued a report saying Gronk received an injection when he didn’t that might be something to complain about. To my knowledge, they haven’t.

    It’s possible Gronk may have received some sort of ‘treatment’ on his back, thus the reason it is listed. Of course, there’s always the question of what defines ‘treatment’.

    Regarding ‘sources’…..as I have said in the past many times, until reporters are willing to reveal the identity of sources of false information, there will always be sources of false information.

  56. psousa1 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:15 AM

    Wow! What a controversy! So the guy didn’t practice. Wow!

    And if a team didn’t report an injury they would be screwed.

    NFL has become a soap opera.

  57. kcflake says: Jan 15, 2016 9:15 AM

    As a Chiefs Fan, I totally think the patriots are overstating Gronk”s injuries to gain an advantage of some sort. The problem is, it won’t matter. The Chiefs will not fall for it. Go Chiefs!

  58. orivar says: Jan 15, 2016 9:17 AM

    This is nothing new. Bill has always abused the injury report system. In fact a deal was made about it some years back as Harbaugh started doing the same after he got “disciplined” for not disclosing enough

  59. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 15, 2016 9:19 AM

    Remember when Patriot Hater predicted the Patriots were going to fumble 9,000 times this year?

    Hilarious!
    :)

  60. streetyson says: Jan 15, 2016 9:19 AM

    Florio: “No one ever gets investigated or punished for putting too much on the injury report”
    ———–+———-
    But no doubt the NFL will make an exception in the Pats case, for the sake of “integrity”. Pats were playing it safe so that no one can ever accuse them of hiding anything, so now people are accusing them of saying too much! Love it.

    All updates by every team is part guesstimate & part BS, which is why such required reporting should be ended except for surgery announcements. In British pro soccer a team might say something, but by rule they just have to provide a “team sheet” of starters and substitutes at least 45mins before kickoff – none of these fitness or practice updates which are so open to abuse, interpretation and skepticism. And they still manage betting & fantasy without it.

  61. 6ball says: Jan 15, 2016 9:21 AM

    .
    What??? It’s just your basic injury report :

    Brady – leprosy / legionaires disease
    Gronk – right leg amputated
    Edelman – Ebola / sore foot
    Vollmer – speaking in tongues / head injury
    Butler – bitten by komodo dragon
    Amendola – head transplant / concussion
    Hightower – bubonic plague / sprained MCL
    .

  62. fanofschill says: Jan 15, 2016 9:23 AM

    Any NFL teams that don’t prepare for players that aren’t listed as OUT is morons. You can make certain Belichick is preparing for Houston and Maclin as if they’ll both be 100%, as well as preparing for both their backups.

    Pretty sure Reid is doing the same for Gronk, Hightower,, Vollmer, Edelman.

  63. weepingjebus says: Jan 15, 2016 9:24 AM

    Whatever they do, their opponents will call it cheating and yet start copying it immediately. Watching Harbaugh trot out ineligible WRs after someone finally explained to him how Belichick out coached him remains hilarious to this day.

  64. blogatron2000 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:24 AM

    rollotomasi14 says:
    Jan 15, 2016 9:13 AM

    Seriously, KC was given the ball 4 times from Hoyer in the first half against the Texans and none of them were converted into a TD by the KC offense. KC’s offense didn’t score a TD until late in the 3rd quarter. So good luck with all that.
    ——————————————————————–

    And yet they still won 30-0. Total team effort is what the Chiefs are about. They can beat you many different ways and all 3 phases can bite you so you gotta watch them all. Good luck with all that.

  65. sambaughslingers says: Jan 15, 2016 9:24 AM

    Mind games are not worth missing two practices. He’s hurt, is the media reading too much into the reports? Probably. The Patriots are getting him ready to play. The Chiefs are preparing as if he is going to play. And guess what, like any injury the Chiefs will have a coach specifically assigned the role of evaluating Gronk’s effectiveness as much as possible. Additionally whoever is covering Gronk will be able to figure out pretty quickly what he is capable of.

  66. flash1287 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:25 AM

    @realitycheckbaby

    I thought you said the Patriots would fumble more and Brady wouldn’t be able to throw a football anymore.

    What happened?

  67. gmen05 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:26 AM

    Of course they are. If Patriots* win, we’ll hear how they did it with a less than 100% Gronk. If they lose, we’ll hear from Patriots* that they would have won had Gronk been 100%. Of course, I’m sure the main thing they’re trying to accomplish here is to take some attention away from the knee issue, but I would imagine KC will prepare for a fully healthy team and not be tricked with these 1st grade antics.

    When there’s a will, there’s a Patriots team acting shady.

  68. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:29 AM

    “All of you Pats fans kick and scream every time something like this is brought up, but sometimes perception is reality ”

    We kick and scream because none of this is reality and its being made up by the media.

  69. toddsuperbowles says: Jan 15, 2016 9:31 AM

    You Patriots fans are really something else. I can’t wait for the Chiefs to end your season this weekend.

  70. mrmcdougle says: Jan 15, 2016 9:31 AM

    I’m sure the Chiefs are absolutely baffled by this! They probably threw their defensive game plan in the garbage after hearing this…. and now the Pats are digging through said garbage.

  71. calpatriot says: Jan 15, 2016 9:33 AM

    realitycheckbaby What about the patriots fumbling data you told us about all off season? They still lead the leauge with fewest fumbles with the most scrutinized balls ever.

  72. rollotomasi14 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:35 AM

    blogatron2000 says:
    Jan 15, 2016 9:24 AM

    rollotomasi14 says:
    Jan 15, 2016 9:13 AM

    Seriously, KC was given the ball 4 times from Hoyer in the first half against the Texans and none of them were converted into a TD by the KC offense. KC’s offense didn’t score a TD until late in the 3rd quarter. So good luck with all that.
    ——————————————————————–

    And yet they still won 30-0. Total team effort is what the Chiefs are about. They can beat you many different ways and all 3 phases can bite you so you gotta watch them all. Good luck with all that.
    —————————————–
    Against the Texans lead by QB Hoyer, is that what your coming back with? Good luck with all that.

  73. psousa1 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:37 AM

    Thats GOLD Jerry, gold!

    ___________________________

    Soup and a sandwich is a meal………..

  74. 4rings4brady says: Jan 15, 2016 9:38 AM

    majormalphunktion says:
    Jan 15, 2016 9:03 AM

    Like Superbowl 49?

    Maj from DDO? is that you? if so the vault says Hi Welcome.

    Is this the new -gate for the pats in the 2015-16 season? Spinalstenosisgate? Backspasmgate? lulz

  75. dietrich43 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:39 AM

    Three beers, a red bull, and a pack of slim jims, and Gronk will be fine.

  76. graylingskies says: Jan 15, 2016 9:39 AM

    “Ya think? The NFL injury report is purely designed for sports betting…there is zero logical reason that a team would tell the opponent its weak spot before the game…I think it should be abandoned all together.”

    Yes, however there’s zero reason to do it for the gamblers. It’s not for them, it’s to set the Vegas line for the house book… like everything else the league of integrity does to maintain parity. Several teams have their old moneyed roots in their family’s history in bookmaking, starting with the bearded indians in NY and NJ. The Pats are serial winners. They should know better.

  77. rollotomasi14 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:39 AM

    You can tell from KC fans that it’s been awhile since KC won a playoff game til this season.

  78. lyfordjr says: Jan 15, 2016 9:43 AM

    If any of the noise around Gronkowski has affected the Chiefs game planning and preparation by even an iota, they’re idiots…

  79. reddzen says: Jan 15, 2016 9:43 AM

    It continues to amaze me that people and posters (including the authors) confuse old news with brilliance. The Patriots have long since been accused or suspected of inflating their injury reports, week in and week out. This would be no exception. It’s not even news.

    Other side of the ball if, as one poster suggests, this gets into anyone’s head then you shouldn’t be coaching, playing, or maybe even watching the sport. If he is in, you play your game. If he is not, you play your game. What do good teams do when a player goes out during a game. They adjust and play their game.

    Gronk may be talented but he isn’t that hard to game for. People for some inexplicable reason just don’t do it. You want to beat the Patriots? Go after Brady. Yes hit Gronk off the line and throw off QB-TE timing (which people don’t do) but stop protecting against the dink and dunks and go after the QB. He has demonstrated time in and time out THAT gets in HIS head.

    Go Chiefs.

  80. bullcharger says: Jan 15, 2016 9:44 AM

    If they don’t state injuries it’s illegal, now listing them is a scam? Come on! Gronk knee and back is logical and he missed practices. BB is just doing what he is required to do.

  81. willycents says: Jan 15, 2016 9:44 AM

    ollotomasi14 says:
    Jan 15, 2016 9:13 AM

    Seriously, KC was given the ball 4 times from Hoyer in the first half against the Texans and none of them were converted into a TD by the KC offense. KC’s offense didn’t score a TD until late in the 3rd quarter. So good luck with all that.
    ——————————————————————–
    So, you are saying the Pats defense is as good/better than the Texans? Pray tell who on the Pats is as good as JJ Watt?

  82. peytonmanningshghconnection says: Jan 15, 2016 9:46 AM

    Patriot fans are so delusional, first they think there is no way KC can come in their house and beat them. Just let the facts speak for themselves, let’s see the Eagles came into Foxboro and beat the crap out of them….the EAGLES for Christ sakes. The Pats have lost 4 out of their last 6 and 2 out of their last 3 and the last team that beat them was the DOLPHINS. The Chiefs have won the last 11 games they have played and by a margin of 14 points. When was the last time the Patriots beat a team with a winning record. Oh and the last time the Pats and the Chiefs played each other ….well all remember that beat down. As far as Belichick being a genius giving false information about the injury report hmmmm what do you think Andy Ried is doing by saying that Maclin and Houston are game time decisions. Yes two can play that game. I’m a Chiefs fan but I’ve also rooted for the Pats in every Super Bowl and I think Brady is the GOAT but please Pats fans just shut up and watch the game and quit making yourselves look and sound stupid by making such ignorant remarks.

  83. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:49 AM

    “So, you are saying the Pats defense is as good/better than the Texans? Pray tell who on the Pats is as good as JJ Watt?”

    JJ Watt whose disappeared in virtually all the big games he’s ever played at the pro level ? I’ll take Jamie Collins, Chandler Jones or even Shearer the way he’s played this year any time over Watt.

  84. romophobic says: Jan 15, 2016 9:50 AM

    It shocking to me to watch the bias this website shows to some teams. When John Fox lied about injuries during the season a few bloggers here said he should be investigated and fined. Yet when there is a chance that Bill Belichick is doing it, he’s just that much smarter than everyone. That isn’t #haternation, that’s just reality.

  85. rogerdw66 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:52 AM

    I do believe that the Pat’s fans have had their heads deflated. Belicheat has melded their simple minds.

  86. orfling says: Jan 15, 2016 9:55 AM

    It worked, Pro Football Talk, I clicked. But this is a player who missed significant time in college with a BACK injury — he dropped in the draft — and had back surgery as recently as 2013. He has had knee problems in the NFL. Will Gronkowski play? Undoubtedly. But it’s really just silliness to assume they are exaggerating Gronk’s injuries, especially when normally the complaint is that the Patriots don’t disclose enough about injuries. (Remember the story that Belichick sneakily knew in advance if a player didn’t travel by monitoring Logan Airport, until everyone remembered that teams announce who isn’t traveling?)

  87. flash1287 says: Jan 15, 2016 9:56 AM

    willycents says:
    Jan 15, 2016 9:44 AM
    ollotomasi14 says:
    Jan 15, 2016 9:13 AM

    Seriously, KC was given the ball 4 times from Hoyer in the first half against the Texans and none of them were converted into a TD by the KC offense. KC’s offense didn’t score a TD until late in the 3rd quarter. So good luck with all that.
    ——————————————————————–
    So, you are saying the Pats defense is as good/better than the Texans? Pray tell who on the Pats is as good as JJ Watt?

    That’s stupid!!!!

    JJ Watt is one guy.

    The Patriots do have a better D than the Texans.
    Better LB’s ( Collins and Hightower) better safeties ( DM and Chilung) better D line as a whole with Jones, Nink and Sheard

  88. goattoday says: Jan 15, 2016 9:57 AM

    I wonder if Bill really cares as much about injury reports as we think he does.

    I could envision him saying “List whatever they (the players) say hurts so we can practice.”

    In other words, it’s not a ploy, it’s Bill focusing on what he believes to be important. Playing football.

  89. randomguy9999 says: Jan 15, 2016 10:00 AM

    Gaming the injury report is done far more by the Pats than by anyone else and anyone who has a brain knows it’s just another loophole to cheat.

    Come on guys, we know it, they know it… the whole reason for the injury report is so that teams can be more competitive by knowing the state and playing personnel on the other team

    ask a 5th grader: if you are going to play a game of soccer against some kids, and then all of a sudden different, much better kids show up for the game… is that fair?

    we all know it…. it’s cheating when any team does it, but the Pats are by far the worst offenders in the NFL.

  90. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 15, 2016 10:08 AM

    rollotomasi14 says:
    Jan 15, 2016 9:39 AM

    You can tell from KC fans that it’s been awhile since KC won a playoff game til this season.

    —-
    Eh… I kinda like the Chiefs. Remind me a lot of the Super Bowl 2001 Patriots back in the day. Can’t really blame their fans for getting pumped up…

    I just think it’s amusing that Patriot Hater is desperately waving their Chief pom poms.:)

  91. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 15, 2016 10:09 AM

    Patriot fans are so delusional, first they think there is no way KC can come in their house and beat them
    —-
    Yes because we all know a few fans represent the entire fanbase.:)

  92. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 15, 2016 10:11 AM

    ReligionIsForIdiots says:
    Jan 15, 2016 9:02 AM

    One and done as usual.

    —-
    28-24.😥 Pete Carroll ran a pass play.😥😥

    I think someone still mad.:)

  93. ricko1112 says: Jan 15, 2016 10:13 AM

    So…… The Dolts blatantly lie by omitting a serious injury and hardly anyone blinks, despite the fact thay Indy is the dirtiest team in the NFL.

    Caught:

    Piping in phony crowd noise several times. Once on live TV against NE.

    Tanking and entire season during the infamous and blatantly obvious “Suck for Luck” campaign.

    Ballboys with needles on the sidelines.

    Phony injury reports.

    Tampering with opponents’ footballs.

    Colluding with the Ratbirds, BSPN, and the NFL to initiate the thoroughly debunked Deflategate fantasy.

    Yet, all these bandwagon fans believe NE cheats! They had a single camera, a few feet out of position during 1/2 of one game. Not only that, they were following the letter of the rule the way it was written!

    Ignorance is strong in Hater Nation!

  94. broncosbrowns says: Jan 15, 2016 10:14 AM

    Anyone who has played fantasy football knows to expect next to Tom Brady’s name something like, “shoulder, limited practice, questionable for Sunday” every week after week five. Its just how the Patriots role, especially under Bellecheck.

  95. patsfan1820 says: Jan 15, 2016 10:15 AM

    The Steelers are doing the same with Ben. Andy Reid isn’t stupid he knows Gronkowski will probably play the Chiefs wouldn’t have made it to Foxboro if they were stupid. For all the idiots that said the Patriots are the reason gaming the injury report happens no actually it started with Mike Shannahan when he was with the Broncos Belichick asked if it was legal to do that and the commish at the time said yes so he’s done it ever since. It’s gamesmanship hell the Chiefs will probably do the same with Maclin.

  96. firecracker87 says: Jan 15, 2016 10:15 AM

    I think they just put any ache or pain on there so as to eliminate any question of not reporting enough. Its really all there is to it. If other teams/media want to read more into it, all the merrier.

  97. mogogo1 says: Jan 15, 2016 10:16 AM

    It shakes up the talking heads and the people betting on the game but there’s zero impact on the opposition. They have to prepare for it as if Gronk is going to play so the injury reports are irrelevant.

  98. cross300 says: Jan 15, 2016 10:22 AM

    No other team will out think the Patriots. Good luck Chiefs. The Patriots will steamroll the chiefs.

  99. artvan15 says: Jan 15, 2016 10:29 AM

    No. Why would we do that? :-)

  100. djshnooks says: Jan 15, 2016 10:29 AM

    Talk about speculation.

  101. swineflooo says: Jan 15, 2016 10:29 AM

    Only big ben overstates a hang nail for being a broken femur

  102. toddsuperbowles says: Jan 15, 2016 10:39 AM

    And now JJ Watt is just another guy. This coming from the same squids that said Hoyer and Mallet were better than 80% of the quarterbacks in the league when they were Brady’s backups. And this is why nobody takes Patriots fans seriously.

  103. bspurloc says: Jan 15, 2016 10:39 AM

    .

    belicheat never states who is injured or not…

    so of course it isn’t true.

  104. ctchiefsfan25 says: Jan 15, 2016 10:40 AM

    Go CHIEFS!!!

  105. hivelocityimpactsplatter says: Jan 15, 2016 10:40 AM

    Do the Patriots cheat?
    Is a frog’s sphincter watertight?
    Do bears defecate in the woods?
    Is the sky blue?
    If a tree falls down and no one is there to hear it, did Belichick find some way to gain an unfair advantage from it?
    Wherever you go, there you are…..being cheated by the Patriots.

  106. bleck5 says: Jan 15, 2016 10:45 AM

    The Chiefs arent stupid like the Broncos so they wont fall for it and will lrepare for a healthy Gronk.

    I see the haters are very upset though. Pats just doing their job as usual.

  107. daytontriangles says: Jan 15, 2016 10:46 AM

    Pacman Jones says Gronk is faking it.

  108. bleck5 says: Jan 15, 2016 10:48 AM

    hivelocityimpactsplatter says:
    Jan 15, 2016 10:40 AM
    Do the Patriots cheat?
    Is a frog’s sphincter watertight?
    Do bears defecate in the woods?
    Is the sky blue?
    If a tree falls down and no one is there to hear it, did Belichick find some way to gain an unfair advantage from it?
    Wherever you go, there you are…..being cheated by the Patriots.

    _________________

    Cheating =\= Outplayed

    Thanks for playing though.

  109. FoozieGrooler says: Jan 15, 2016 10:48 AM

    Pats are one and done.
    Sorry, but it is what it is.

  110. rootpain says: Jan 15, 2016 10:49 AM

    Another of those “from a source who says he knows but actually knows nothing”, stories. They mean absolutely nothing.
    Gronk would practice if the practice would be beneficial. If resting were better for him and the team, he would be resting. And Belichick will make public whatever he has to and nothing more. Nothing is new in that department.
    NE will win. That’s all you need to know.

  111. dexx57 says: Jan 15, 2016 10:50 AM

    Justnlike steelers are overstating fatso Bens injuries, but media falls for that. Ben is huge drama queen

  112. joker65 says: Jan 15, 2016 10:52 AM

    ReligionIsForIdiots says:
    Jan 15, 2016 9:02 AM
    One and done as usual.
    ___

    This has happened twice since 2001. You are a dunce.

  113. mmack66 says: Jan 15, 2016 10:52 AM

    cross300 says:
    Jan 15, 2016 10:22 AM

    No other team will out think the Patriots. Good luck Chiefs. The Patriots will steamroll the chiefs.
    —————————–

    They couldn’t steamroll the Jets or the Dolphins when home field advantage throughout was on the line, so why do you think they will steamroll the Chiefs?

    The odds are pretty good that the Patriots will prevail, but I doubt it is going to be the cakewalk that some are predicting.

  114. 69finfan says: Jan 15, 2016 10:55 AM

    “Injectiongate”

  115. granadafan says: Jan 15, 2016 10:59 AM

    This is done in hockey playoffs all the time. If the guy has an ankle or leg injury, the team will announce he has a shoulder injury.

  116. gr365 says: Jan 15, 2016 11:03 AM

    KC won’t be getting turn-overs all day, I can tell you that! I think the Patriots will get a couple though.

  117. musicfootballprogramming says: Jan 15, 2016 11:07 AM

    Honestly, I think the “oh, he’s fine” sentiment comes mostly from Pats fans who desperately want him to be fine for the playoffs.

    I am hopeful the Patriots essentially closed up shop at the end of the year in order to rest players and install an entirely new offense while revealing none of it, but that’s wishful thinking.

    We’ll see tomorrow.

  118. lscottman3 says: Jan 15, 2016 11:07 AM

    what is the line, has it moved?

    that’s all you need to know.

    as for inflating the injury list, yeah, he does it.

    he also has players declare they were ineligible, and someone in Baltimore complained. Now he ran the same tactic this past year, almost like he discovered something wonderful.

    we will see another Bill tactic copied, usually by his biggest detractors.

  119. lscottman3 says: Jan 15, 2016 11:09 AM

    wonder how much crying will go on once the Panthers put the seahawks away?

  120. bullcharger says: Jan 15, 2016 11:13 AM

    willycents says:
    Jan 15, 2016 9:44 AM

    ollotomasi14 says:
    Jan 15, 2016 9:13 AM

    Seriously, KC was given the ball 4 times from Hoyer in the first half against the Texans and none of them were converted into a TD by the KC offense. KC’s offense didn’t score a TD until late in the 3rd quarter. So good luck with all that.
    ——————————————————————–
    So, you are saying the Pats defense is as good/better than the Texans? Pray tell who on the Pats is as good as JJ Watt?

    —————

    The Patriots defense is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better then the Texans. Yes JJ Watt is great, but that’s one guy. Look what happened when the Patriots played the Texans for example. The Patriots completely clobbered Hoyer and they won as easily as KC.

  121. smartcollegefootball says: Jan 15, 2016 11:17 AM

    Circus

  122. flash1287 says: Jan 15, 2016 11:17 AM

    toddsuperbowles says:
    Jan 15, 2016 10:39 AM
    And now JJ Watt is just another guy. This coming from the same squids that said Hoyer and Mallet were better than 80% of the quarterbacks in the league when they were Brady’s backups. And this is why nobody takes Patriots fans seriously.

    Not one comment says JJ Watt is “just another guy” not one!

    But to say the Texans have a better D because the Patiots don’t have a player as good as Watt is stupid.

    He is only ONE guy.

    This is why the crybabies can’t be taken seriously, you literally made that up.

  123. bullcharger says: Jan 15, 2016 11:17 AM

    randomguy9999 says:
    Jan 15, 2016 10:00 AM

    Gaming the injury report is done far more by the Pats than by anyone else and anyone who has a brain knows it’s just another loophole to cheat.

    Come on guys, we know it, they know it… the whole reason for the injury report is so that teams can be more competitive by knowing the state and playing personnel on the other team

    ask a 5th grader: if you are going to play a game of soccer against some kids, and then all of a sudden different, much better kids show up for the game… is that fair?

    we all know it…. it’s cheating when any team does it, but the Pats are by far the worst offenders in the NFL.

    ————————

    That is delusional. The Patriots didn’t have ESPN follow Gronk to the hospital.

    All they did was list that a guy missed practice and listed why. How exactly is that different then any other week. If Gronk plays well in the game, he still missed practice for a knee and back. Doesn’t change anything. If Gronk was perfectly healthy he would be out there at practice.

    How can the Patriots be so far in peoples heads.

  124. wetookavote says: Jan 15, 2016 11:18 AM

    Always good to see the whiniest and most hypocritical fan base in all of sports hasn’t lost a step. The Pats* may be in trouble this weekend, but their fans are already in championship excuse-making form.

  125. rideforjesus says: Jan 15, 2016 11:21 AM

    ok if they overstating his pain and injuries what is the big deal or the point??

    If your KC you prepare for him and if he doesn’t play…. you still prepare for the back up… this changes nothing….. you better be preparing for the whole roster…..

    man are people that lame????

  126. flash1287 says: Jan 15, 2016 11:25 AM

    wetookavote says:
    Jan 15, 2016 11:18 AM
    Always good to see the whiniest and most hypocritical fan base in all of sports hasn’t lost a step. The Pats* may be in trouble this weekend, but their fans are already in championship excuse-making form.

    What comments are “excuse making”

    I always love it when someone comes on PFT and lumps an entire region of fans into one based on a handful of comments he or she reads online.

  127. superpatriotsfan says: Jan 15, 2016 11:29 AM

    Patriots* bending the rules again? Say it isn’t so!

  128. tedmurph says: Jan 15, 2016 11:30 AM

    The Pats hold Gronk out of practice and ASchefter says he got a shot at the hospital. I guess it’s all so KC will forget about Gronk in the game plan and concentrate on SChandler and BLafells? As the Irish in Boston say: freakin eejits.

  129. gysot says: Jan 15, 2016 11:31 AM

    crazyaboutthepigskin says:
    Jan 15, 2016 8:34 AM
    The 2015-16 Middle Finger Tour Continues…
    “““““““““““““““““`
    Middle finger to the rest of the league tour? No the Denver Broncos destroyed that a couple of months ago. Middle finger to the rule book circa 2001. No doubt that continues.

  130. tjg25 says: Jan 15, 2016 11:32 AM

    These stories get more ignorant each time they’re told. Gronk isn’t hurt and there’s way more to the Chandler story. Lies, lies and more lies.

  131. smasonsmith says: Jan 15, 2016 11:35 AM

    BB is an absolutist when it comes to the injury report. If a player misses a single rep of a single drill, then that player is listed as LP. If a player complains about pain at all, then that player is listed as having an injury. The result is that NE always has a huge injury report list, and there’s a low signal to noise ratio.

  132. superpatriotsfan says: Jan 15, 2016 11:41 AM

    ITT: Pats fans are also NFL coaches who claim to know more than anyone else.

  133. mmack66 says: Jan 15, 2016 11:42 AM

    lscottman3 says:
    Jan 15, 2016 11:09 AM

    wonder how much crying will go on once the Panthers put the seahawks away?
    ————————–

    Probably about the same that went on after they blew the Super Bowl last year.

    In fact, they’re still crying about it.

  134. tylawspick6 says: Jan 15, 2016 11:44 AM

    The reason why the media glosses over how good the Pats D is, is simple:

    Bill Belichick is a defensive minded coach. They HATE complimenting him and anything related to the defense for that reason.

    Biggest secret in the postseason: Pats D is the best of any AFC team. They were the #1 ranked D in the middle of the year, before all of the injuries started piling up.

    So, if everyone is healthy, or better than they were, people are in for a very rude awakening.

    The dominated Denver in Denver. It was only a series of injuries and ones IN THAT GAME itself, along a PS guy rookie fumbling a punt, that allowed Denver to win in OT.

    That’s the truth. It’s funny to me, people intentionally deny this or gloss over these facts.

  135. internetcommenter7 says: Jan 15, 2016 11:44 AM

    This is the sort of asinine garbage only the media and moron fans would believe. Anyone who thinks the Chiefs will prepare less for the best te in the history of football because of an injury report should come to my bridge emporium.

  136. Hitdog18 says: Jan 15, 2016 11:51 AM

    I really don’t see how overstating an injury would be any kind of advantage? Do you think the chief’s would see Gronk line up Saturday and suddenly be so confused they forget to cover him our something?

  137. bkostela says: Jan 15, 2016 11:54 AM

    If Gronk really is as injured as they say, Pats fans should be very worried because their offense is average at best without Gronk.

    Then again, it’s a built-in excuse if/when they lose. (see: SB46)

  138. contender21open says: Jan 15, 2016 11:55 AM

    Misleading injury reports = Another form of CHEATING!

    It never ends with the Pat*riots! SHEESH!

  139. contender21open says: Jan 15, 2016 12:00 PM

    Hitdog18 says:
    Jan 15, 2016 11:51 AM

    I really don’t see how overstating an injury would be any kind of advantage? Do you think the chief’s would see Gronk line up Saturday and suddenly be so confused they forget to cover him our something?

    _________________________________

    If you practice all week figuring Gronk is out then suddenly he appears on the field and you didn’t have time to sufficiently practice double teaming him, it could create a problem. No? Teams only have so much time to practice for the upcoming opponent and it’s nice to know what you’re facing without misleading injury reports.

    It’s rather simple to understand.

  140. whywerule says: Jan 15, 2016 12:06 PM

    contender21open says:
    Jan 15, 2016 12:00 PM
    Hitdog18 says:
    Jan 15, 2016 11:51 AM
    ****
    If you practice all week figuring Gronk is out…

    If the Coaches of a team practice all week without preparing for all of the players on an opponents roster who are not declared Out then those Coaches need to be fired.

    It is rather simple to understand.

  141. dasmol says: Jan 15, 2016 12:07 PM

    Dishonesty in New England?

    Say it isn’t so!

  142. goawayeverybody says: Jan 15, 2016 12:15 PM

    Belichick may be a cheater but he’s not going to excuse his best player from a critical day of practice to play mind games with the opponents. The report is ludicrous.

  143. revelation123 says: Jan 15, 2016 12:19 PM

    The Patriots have been cheating on their injury reports for over a decade now. Even former Patriots players admit it.

    In fact, PFT reported about it a couple years ago in an article called “Spikes, Talib say Patriots File False Injury Reports”

  144. dasmol says: Jan 15, 2016 12:40 PM

    It’s the Cheatriot way!

  145. ygghh says: Jan 15, 2016 12:56 PM

    Funny. For the last 15 years the Patriots have been accused of downplaying injuries. Now these idiot reporters flip it 180. The injury report is a favor from the NFL to Gambling Inc.

  146. whispersd says: Jan 15, 2016 1:07 PM

    Misleading injury reports = cheating?

    Gronk missed two practices. His reasons for missing them were listed. The Patriots are not the ones making up reports about hospital visits.

    Gronk has had lingering back issues for years. Tuesday was a very cold day in New England. On cold days, old injuries tend to resurface.

    Is there somebody out there actually contending that Gronk isn’t injured? Or is this just another chance for people to make themselves feel joyous by making yet more unsubstantiated accusations of cheating?

    The NFL actually requires each team to list injuries. The Patriots are only following the rules here. But so many people here are pathologically mental that they cannot tell when a team is following the rules.

  147. Hitdog18 says: Jan 15, 2016 2:24 PM

    In other words, there’s a chance that the Patriots are deliberately overstating Gronkowski’s health condition in an effort to confuse the Chiefs as they finalize a game plan for Saturday.

    ___________________________________________

    If the Chiefs coaching staff is confused that easily then they’re pretty sorry

  148. lunchbox77 says: Jan 15, 2016 2:54 PM

    Report – 5 Chiefs listed as questionable for Saturday = totally legit, respecting the rules and integrity of the game

    Report – Gronk was limited on Wednesday, didn’t practice on Thursday = overstating injuries to gain a competitive advantage (despite being required to do so)…cheating franchise, Belicheat, Shady Brady, ****

    “I don’t always hate the Patriots when they are making another playoff run, but when I do, it’s with a double standard” – said every Patriot hater ever.

    – stay disillusioned my friends

  149. sychosam28 says: Jan 15, 2016 2:58 PM

    If there is any chance Gronk will play, KC will game plan for him. There is nothing to be gained by exaggerating his injury status. Anyone thinking the Patriots are trying to exaggerate his injury status is an imbecile. By the way Elvis is still alive also, hanging out with Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny. I’m sure you would believe that also.

  150. pete2112 says: Jan 15, 2016 3:03 PM

    We kick and scream because none of this is reality and its being made up by the media.
    ———————————————-

    Made up by the media? Like filming the Jets practice. Yeah, it’s all the fault of the media. Belichick is a class act….

    The bottom line is that he’s a great coach but he’ll stoop to whatever level necessary to gain an advantage over his opponent legal or otherwise.

  151. strenuis says: Jan 15, 2016 3:35 PM

    What I find stranger is that Macklin was crying on the sideline as if he thought his career may be over after suffering his 3rd ACL tear. The injury appeared pretty devastating on TV and all the trainers and medical staff were checking for ACL damage on the sideline. The next thing we hear first during the week was no tear but an ACL injury which was then switched to knee sprain which was then switched to high ankle sprain which was then reported that he was walking with a noticeable limp which was then reported he was walking without a limp which was then reported that he may play. His reaction on TV last week definitely seemed to say torn ACL. He could be walking by now without a limp with a torn ACL but he could never play with one. Do the Chiefs know this and are also playing with the injury report to get the Patriots to waste time preparing for him to play? Would be pretty funny is he is listed as doubtful but then he “reaggravates” the injury hours before the game and is ruled out with a “resheduled” MRI which shows a torn ACL that was actually there all along…lol

  152. musicfootballprogramming says: Jan 15, 2016 4:02 PM

    pete2112:
    Made up by the media? Like filming the Jets practice. Yeah, it’s all the fault of the media. Belichick is a class act….

    The bottom line is that he’s a great coach but he’ll stoop to whatever level necessary to gain an advantage over his opponent legal or otherwise.

    See, this is why statements like this drive Patriots fans crazy: I can’t tell if you’re trolling or if you actually believe that.

    The “filming practice” thing WAS made up, and was admitted to. The Herald looked even worse than they usually do. There was no such actual allegation that had any standing whatsoever. Spygate was a farce with zero due process that was actually no big deal. The tapes were destroyed (by Goodell) but copes exist, which have been seen by the media. It’s cheerleaders and score board and the other team’s sideline; I could capture much more damning intel with an iPhone at ANY GAME, or by DVRing it. Deflategate has been shown to be a complete screwup from day 0, and the science and proves nothing was done by Brady or anyone else.

    Anything else about the Pats that they didn’t do that you’d like to talk about?

  153. opposedtoinbreeders says: Jan 15, 2016 4:13 PM

    And Belicheat caused global warming??? Right?

  154. mark0226 says: Jan 15, 2016 4:59 PM

    First of all, the Patriots have been doing this for years, so I don’t know why all of a sudden it is genius. Remember Brady’s shoulder was listed weekly for the past five years or more and always played with no sign of injury.

    Second, does this really get into Chiefs’ heads while game planning? As Belichik pointed out previously (and I’m sure other coaches do the same), they have to plan for all 53 men on the roster, regardless of what the injury report says.

    This is a manufactured story at best.

  155. fanofpft says: Jan 15, 2016 6:06 PM

    Just put most of the team on most of which practiced. It doesn’t look suspect at all.

  156. whispersd says: Jan 16, 2016 12:49 AM

    “Remember Brady’s shoulder was listed weekly for the past five years or more and always played with no sign of injury.”

    Five years or more, eh?

    This is what happens with Patriots. People rely on half-remembered memories and numbers become exaggerated.

    How do I know it wasn’t “five years or more”? Brady famously started the 2008 season completely off the injury list. That was the first week off in quite some time, and he injured his ACL in the first week.

    Brady separated his shoulder in 2002. Since then he’s had issues with it from time to time. I do not fathom a press corps that finds it impossible to accept this medical fact at face value. It seems to result from a corps of people who spend too much time listening to each other tell tall tales and too little time doing basic research. You know, reporting. Reading a bunch of twitter feeds isn’t reporting.

    Mike, I honestly don’t know how you go from conflicting media reports from different reporters with different sources and somehow blame the conflict on the Patriots. At a minimum, this is reckless speculation. Do you know who the source(s) is/are?

    The problem here appears to lie with the media, who do not identify their sources. One anonymous source says one thing and another one says something different. It’s entirely possible that both sources think they know the whole story, and that each of them is wrong.

    If you think the problem is a single individual telling different stories to different reporters, here’s a crazy idea: out the source! Seriously, the practice of granting anonymity to let anonymous sources pass on rumors has gotten completely out of hand, in the media at large but also in the sports media.

    The public really deserve a better answer for what happened with the story last January than the NFL or Mortensen has given us.

  157. whispersd says: Jan 16, 2016 12:53 AM

    “Just put most of the team on most of which practiced. It doesn’t look suspect at all.

    Give me a name. What name do you think is a lie?

    Gronkowski missed practice twice this week. Hightower and Vollmer missed the season finale. All of the other names below to players who have missed time in the second half of the season.

    The sad thing about the “story” here is that anybody who did a minimum amount of research would know that all of the names are on the injury list legitimately. The Patriots have a lot of injuries! But with the media- and league-inspired sneering attitude toward the Patriots, people think it’s reasonable to toss around smears willy nilly.

    If Goodell were a moderately competent commissioner, this kind of thing wouldn’t be happening. But he’s the only commissioner of a major sports league who decided it was a good idea to turn the public against one of the league’s marquee franchises. What a clown.

  158. whispersd says: Jan 16, 2016 12:56 AM

    “In other words, there’s a chance that the Patriots are deliberately overstating Gronkowski’s health condition in an effort to confuse the Chiefs as they finalize a game plan for Saturday.”

    There’s a ‘chance’ that you’re using speculation as a poor substitute for journalism. A pretty high chance, IMO.

  159. joyo66 says: Jan 16, 2016 10:35 AM

    I’m sure at this point all the NFL coaches know to prepare for everyone on the Patriots roster so in my mind the Patriots are the idiot for wasting their time with their fake injury report that no one believes anyway

  160. hivelocityimpactsplatter says: Jan 16, 2016 12:32 PM

    joyo66 says:
    Jan 16, 2016 10:35 AM
    I’m sure at this point all the NFL coaches know to prepare for everyone on the Patriots roster so in my mind the Patriots are the idiot for wasting their time with their fake injury report that no one believes anyway
    ****
    Ding, ding, ding! You nailed it. They’re so worried about getting in people’s heads, they’re in their own heads. Oh what tangled webs we weave~~~~

  161. gstorm0 says: Jan 17, 2016 2:44 AM

    No head coach should game plan via injury report except in the case of an “out” so I can’t see much benefit. The injury report is for gamblers and fantasy players.

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