Chandler Jones could face scrutiny under substance-abuse policy

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The strange story of Patriots defensive end Chandler Jones could result in league scrutiny, even if the absence of an arrest or a positive test.

Whether he was using synthetic marijuana or the real thing (the police report says authorities smelled burned marijuana in Jones’ apartment), the information gathered and documented likely is sufficient to refer Jones to Stage One of the substance-abuse program, even without with a positive test. The policy provides that a player may be played in Stage One based on behavior, which includes (but is not limited to) an arrest or conduct relating to the misuse of a substance of abuse.

By way of example, an admission more than a decade ago by former NFL receiver Randy Moss to Bryant Gumbel that Moss smokes marijuana “every blue moon” nearly got Moss placed into Stage One of the program, an unnamed source told PFT at the time.

If the NFL’s Medical Review Officer determines that Jones should be referred to the program (and the determination can be based on behavior reported in the media), Jones would be placed in Stage One for up to 90 days, during which time Jones would be subject to enhanced testing over and above the once-per-year screening that occurs unannounced between April and August.

As to synthetic marijuana, there’s a question as to whether it even falls within the policy. It arguably is a “Substance of Abuse,” but it definitely isn’t one of the compounds for which the NFL tests. Once in the program, however, positive tests arising from other substances would result in advancement to a higher level of the program and, eventually, discipline.

For Jones, unless he already was in an advanced stage of the program (due to the confidentiality of the program only a small handful of people would know whether he is), a suspension won’t happen based on the recent incident. Even if he’s one violation away from a suspension, there’s not enough time to process the suspension and the appeal before the Super Bowl.

The real question is whether the NFL determines, based on the police report, that Jones should be placed in Stage One of the substance-abuse program. Given the behavior described in the police report and Jones’ vague apology for making some sort of a “stupid mistake,” there’s a chance that he would benefit from the guidance and the deterrent of enhanced testing during the next 90 days.

80 responses to “Chandler Jones could face scrutiny under substance-abuse policy

  1. but no Patriots fans, no, Peyton is a cheater, right? It doesn’t really matter that Al-Jazeera no longer exists, right? He’s a cheater and because this is the PATRIOTS, Goodell has it out for us with this Chandler Jones situation. If any of you guys believe that, I don’t know what else there is to say. The Patriots, once again, with lots of skeletons in the closet.

  2. I discoverer the connection to Brady. Chandler Jones….Chandler Bing….Ross Geller…Rachel Green…Ross cheated on Rachel…Tom Brady is cheater….Tom is a Patriot.

  3. Not much going on this week apparently. Other players are caught beating women while high on ecstacy while wielding a gun and there is maybe one story. Because it’s a Patriots player we are going to speculate until the cows come home. Such an obvious agenda driven league and media. Move on.

  4. Behavior, which includes (but is not limited to) an arrest or conduct relating to the misuse of a substance of abuse.

    Goodell abuses his power every day – is power on the substance abuse list ?

  5. Patriots fans fans will say it wasn’t technically illegal like when they lined up a receiver and declared him in eligible.

    Sounds like Belickeck advised him how to smoke his we–d.

  6. Firstly, the synthetic stuff has a burnt marijuana smell too, so ain’t evidence of real marijuana.

    Secondly, in 2014, Jets’ Kellen Winslow Jr was found in possession of synthetic marijuana whilst masturbating in his car at a Target parking lot (for which he wasn’t suspended or even investigated by the NFL, and the synthetic isn’t banned or tested for anyway).

    By contrast, Jones walks into a police station having caused no problems at all but simply asking for help, admitted taking synthetic marijuana. No real marijuana was found, and he hasn’t missed practice. But you’re saying he could face league scrutiny? Oh, but I missed the bit where you said he’s a Patriot – now I get it!

  7. Could face scrutiny? Really, an NFL player stumbles into a police station so smashed that he needs help from smoking something and he could face scrutiny…… Lol….ok

  8. it is interesting Marcel Dareus was suspended 1 game for being arrested having the stuff you use to smoke synthetic mary jane, becuase in Alabama it is a felony to possess the stuff you use to smoke the it.

    Just watch him get off scott free with no punishment from the league and Pats fans still whine about the league singling them out and coming down on them.

  9. So if Parsons goes into the program, he can seriously abuse synthetic MJ, but since they don’t test for it, as long as he doesn’t do any other substance, he’ll be off the hook?

  10. Anyone stupid enough to smoke synthetic marijuana should be in the hashish program. That stuff is one step from Acid loaded with harsh chemicals. Doesn’t even give you the same experience and marijuana. Flat out ignorant for a semi rich person two smoke this crap.

    Something smells fishy.. When is the last time someone rolled one at a party and smoked it by themselves? I’m telling you this guy was drugged up bc this doesn’t make sense. He wasn’t even at his own house in his own privacy of his own home no one smokes by themselves and I bet my life other teammates used some but didn’t mix like he did.

  11. It’s amazing how it’s always someone else catching the patriots breaking the rules and not Goodell. Maybe it has something to do with Kraft being one of three in charge of his salary. If that’s the case maybe that also explains why the patriots have also played the least amount of teams coming off bye weeks since Goodell became commish than any other team.

  12. Never thought it would come back to Brady manning in th AFC game again.

    With manning falling off the field in week 8, to think he’s going to host Brady one more time. And to get to the SB, Tom is going to have to win somewhere he’s never had success in.

    Goodness gracious. See all you REAL Pats fans tomorrow at Blake St in Denver to protect the wall. This will be a long haul.

  13. Chris “fall guy” Carter, a man with extensive expert information with illegal drugs, stated it was marijuana laced with PCP that Jones used.
    Only input from BSPN and 345 Park ave. would someone jump to this conclusion.
    This from the guy that said “mama” Manning could never have raised a boy who would use the HGH that was shipped to his house.

  14. I don’t understand how he is allowed to play this weekend. It’s ok to behave like an idiot, and then play??? He obviously did something, because you don’t end up in a police station with no shirt on. Come on, get some help for goodness sake and just go away from all the hoop la of the Super Bowl. I guess with the police dept in charge of security at the Patriots Stadium, it’s ok to behave like this!!! Just another situation for the Patriots, never a dull moment with them.

  15. Pats fan here. His behavior that night definitely calls for him to be put in Stage 1. Taking the problems his brother had I’d rather he be monitored over the next 90 days. If this was a one time thing, or just Mary Jane, I’m not worried. But if actual dangerouss drugs are in the picture I’d rather he get the help he needs.

  16. Past precedence with the synthetic marijuana shows that there will be fine or suspension, which should keep him out of the league substance abuse program.
    Everything is governed by negotiated binding contracts.

  17. Addiction is serious. Speaking from experience, it is not an easy fight to win….actually it is the hardest battle. Football aside, my prayers sent to Chandler and hope he does get help. He messed up…he admitted it and hey give the dude credit. He is back at practice.

    -Seahawk fan

  18. Why is it when the Pats are accused of something it’s all over sports center for months and everyone wants their heads but if it’s any other team nobody cares

  19. If I had to deal with the reputation the Patriots have with my employer, I would be forced to do drugs just to deal with the embarrassment.

  20. Keep talking smack, keep taking players.

    We aren’t going anywhere and there is still years, and years ahead of our continued success. You will be forced to deal with the most obnoxious fans until your team can find a way to match our legacy. Good luck with that, because you can’t.

  21. Expecting an honest report from the Foxboro PD about a Patriots player…..better chance you win the powerball. Funny how you Pat’s fans are quiet about this but we’re very critical of the Ray Rice case…..I know fair play is not part of your DNA.

  22. THX 138 says: Jan 16, 2016 12:07 AM

    How does this clown get a free pass? No way he should be allowed to play.
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    You don’t get suspended for a first positive test unless it is a PED, and neither was the case here.

  23. 15YearsandBradyStillRunsYourTeam says:
    Jan 16, 2016 9:27 AM
    Keep talking smack, keep taking players.

    We aren’t going anywhere and there is still years, and years ahead of our continued success. You will be forced to deal with the most obnoxious fans until your team can find a way to match our legacy. Good luck with that, because you can’t.

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    The legacy of being cheaters ? Not one football fan except a Patriot fan would want that.

  24. Nofoolnodrool says:
    Jan 16, 2016 10:04 AM
    Expecting an honest report from the Foxboro PD about a Patriots player…..better chance you win the powerball. Funny how you Pat’s fans are quiet about this but we’re very critical of the Ray Rice case…..I know fair play is not part of your DNA.

    Yeah, because using a substance that may not even be illegal in Massachusetts and which is not on the NFL’s list of banned substances is SO comparable to punching your girlfriend in the face and knocking her out cold, and then lying about it.

  25. annes22 says:
    Jan 16, 2016 7:33 AM
    I guess with the police dept in charge of security at the Patriots Stadium, it’s ok to behave like this!!! Just another situation for the Patriots, never a dull moment with them.
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    Patriots head of security is Mark Briggs holder of the BEM and security consultant to two separate Olympic games, not some podunk PD.
    Facts can be troublesome things to people with an agenda in the real world but here on the internet people are free to ignore them safe in their anonymity

  26. Yeah, because using a substance that may not even be illegal in Massachusetts and which is not on the NFL’s list of banned substances is SO comparable to punching your girlfriend in the face and knocking her out cold, and then lying about it.

    Being a Pat’s fan you believe what you want to be the truth not the actual truth and judging from your screen name you aren’t clever enough to see that we have yet to get the real story. He may be in the clear on the substance but still in need of help or he may be heading down a very troubling road with a bumpy ending. But open your eyes fool Hernandez should have made you realizes your idols aren’t gods because the wear your teams uni.

  27. It’s amusing as to how many of #TheHaters who became experts in physics and meteorology last year have now become experts in medicine and pharmacology! Who knew #TheHaters were so intelligent. But wait, are these not the same crowd that predicted the Pats would lead the league in fumbles?

  28. It’s amusing as to how many of #TheHaters who became experts in physics and meteorology last year have now become experts in medicine and pharmacology! Who knew #TheHaters were so intelligent. But wait, are these not the same crowd that predicted the Pats would lead the league in fumbles?

    Pretty weak worn out and tired Skippy. Quit crying about last year and face the topic at hand…. Another cover up another cheat.. Shocking simply shocking.

  29. Even if he’s one violation away from a suspension, there’s not enough time to process the suspension and the appeal before the Super Bowl.
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    Why? I am not saying he should be suspended but if he is already in the program and a suspension is warranted, there is plenty of time. The league takes too long on suspensions. There is no excuse for a guy that violates the policy preseason to be suspended week 10. Worst case scenario should mean only one game is affected. Here in the real world, if one of us failed a drug test for work, the only delay would be the time it takes to process the sample. Once the results come in, the consequences happen on the next work day, not months later.

  30. Here’s what I don’t get. People say that Roger Goodell abuses his power. Really? Cite some examples. People say the refs favor the Packers by throwing flags against their opponents. Really? Cite some examples. People say the league is biased and favors the Patriots. Really? Cite some examples. Posters make a lot of comments that have no concrete proof.

  31. Nofoolnodrool says:
    Jan 16, 2016 11:52 AM
    It’s amusing as to how many of #TheHaters who became experts in physics and meteorology last year have now become experts in medicine and pharmacology! Who knew #TheHaters were so intelligent. But wait, are these not the same crowd that predicted the Pats would lead the league in fumbles?

    Pretty weak worn out and tired Skippy. Quit crying about last year and face the topic at hand…. Another cover up another cheat.. Shocking simply shocking.

    Another cover up? Another cheat? Where buddy, where? How is synthetic marijuana a cheat? How is him going to get help a cover up? He admitted he did a stupid mistake. That doesn’t sound like a cover up at all. If he’s not already in the drug program then he’s probably going to get into stage 1 of the program. Quit being stupid. Shocking simply shocking.

  32. Only in Western PA is a guy smoking pot synthetic or otherwise considered worse than a sexual predator. It’s truly like a time warp when you get anywhere to the left of Philly. They still think a groundhog can predict weather.

    The only surprise is that the drooling fools in PA aren’t asking for the Pats to be disbanded under the “generally aware” standard of proof.

  33. Must be playoff season. Everyone is looking for a way to derail the pats. Sad that you can’t just beat them on the field. INstead you get your big sister Roger to help you out.

  34. Chandler and Peyton will be under the scrutiny of the NFL for the integrity of the game, if Goodell has integrity.

    Chandler should be made to face his problems for his own sake. But the NFL should not do this to spite the Patriots which is Goodell’s own bad habit. In this case I hope the NFL, if it ever gets involved, should care about the athlete foremost and not use this incident to go after the Patriots yet again. This player needs help and I hope the NFL honchos will put aside the pettiness.

  35. it is interesting Marcel Dareus was suspended 1 game for being arrested having the stuff you use to smoke synthetic mary jane, becuase in Alabama it is a felony to possess the stuff you use to smoke the it.
    ===
    That’s federalism for you.

  36. “but no Patriots fans, no, Peyton is a cheater, right? It doesn’t really matter that Al-Jazeera no longer exists, right? He’s a cheater and because this is the PATRIOTS, Goodell has it out for us with this Chandler Jones situation. If any of you guys believe that, I don’t know what else there is to say. The Patriots, once again, with lots of skeletons in the closet.”

    Ok chief. Pump the brakes a little here.

    First off — Al Jazeera no longer exists? Do you live under a rock? The level of misinformation regarding Al Jazeera among Americans is hilarious. Al Jazeera is one of the most credible, trusted, and unbiased news sources in the world. That is not up for debate. It is reality.

    Secondly, yes if Peyton took HGH he technically cheated. Although I don’t care one tiny little bit if he took or not. Most Patriots fans are just laughing at the way the NFL, the media, and the fans so quickly swept that whole thing under the rug whereas if Giselle had received HGH the firestorm to hang Brady would be full steam ahead. That is also not up for debate. It is reality.

    Lastly, if Jones smoked synthetic marijuana that is not cheating. Sorry. For one its legal, for two it isn’t a PED.

    You haters are so hilarious with your irellevant analogies, completely obsessive thirst to freak out about all things Patriots, and your just outright lies.

    Have a great day. =)

  37. “It’s amazing how it’s always someone else catching the patriots breaking the rules and not Goodell. Maybe it has something to do with Kraft being one of three in charge of his salary. If that’s the case maybe that also explains why the patriots have also played the least amount of teams coming off bye weeks since Goodell became commish than any other team.”

    Dude. You have been on a permameltdown over the Patriots for an entire year.

    Seek help.

  38. drunkchurro69 says:
    Jan 16, 2016 12:25 PM
    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Jan 16, 2016 11:52 AM
    It’s amusing as to how many of #TheHaters who became experts in physics and meteorology last year have now become experts in medicine and pharmacology! Who knew #TheHaters were so intelligent. But wait, are these not the same crowd that predicted the Pats would lead the league in fumbles?

    Pretty weak worn out and tired Skippy. Quit crying about last year and face the topic at hand…. Another cover up another cheat.. Shocking simply shocking.

    Another cover up? Another cheat? Where buddy, where? How is synthetic marijuana a cheat? How is him going to get help a cover up? He admitted he did a stupid mistake. That doesn’t sound like a cover up at all. If he’s not already in the drug program then he’s probably going to get into stage 1 of the program. Quit being stupid. Shocking simply shocking.

    Not shocking. This guy has an unhealthy obsession. I guess when your team poops out so early and often you get a little cranky.

  39. Love the Pats fans who keep crying foul play or double standard…It’s as if they’ve completely forgotten or ignored they have a history of cheating and misconduct.

    Pats no longer get the benefit of the doubt. If anything they’re lucky. The media will always take care of their own. Simply put, if their owner was a conservative, the spygate tapes would have never been destroyed and their 3 first Superbowl victories may have been stricken from the histories…

  40. Roger will give this matter his full, undivided, upmost attention. His personal, special skills and experience are required for this. No ax to grind here, nothing to see, move along. Just a full investigation before Patriots Superbowl 50 appearance.

  41. Love the Pats fans who keep crying foul play or double standard…It’s as if they’ve completely forgotten or ignored they have a history of cheating and misconduct.
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    Enlighten us on that “history” chief.

  42. If the NFL’s Medical Review Officer determines that Jones should be referred to the program (and the determination can be based on behavior reported in the media)…

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    This is my problem with it. If he’s going to be put in Stage One, then it has to be with the factual police and hospital reports, not reports based on the media hear-say. There are so many things that have been wrongly reported by the media since this came out. Even the synthetic marijuana report came from a “source”, not from Jones, the team, the police or a doctor (I work at a hospital, so I know about HIPAA) and has not been confirmed or denied. So the truth is we don’t know what he took.

    They need to sit down with him, have a talk (what did you take, was this the first time, what other drugs are you taking, etc.) and ask for his medical report from that day, which will have blood tests, and after all that make a decision based on the information they gathered, not on media reports.

    But it’s the NFL, so I guess they’ll just go with the media reports and Chris Carter’s analysis.

  43. followme2boston says:
    Jan 15, 2016 11:41 PM
    it is interesting Marcel Dareus was suspended 1 game for being arrested having the stuff you use to smoke synthetic mary jane, becuase in Alabama it is a felony to possess the stuff you use to smoke the it.

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    You just said it. It’s illegal in Alabama, it’s not in Massachusetts. In other words, Marcel committed a felony (doing something ILLEGAL) whereas Chandler did not.

    That’s why the league suspended Marcel, because he was arrested for doing something ILLEGAL in Alabama.

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