Edelman’s game-clinching first down should have been reviewed

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The Patriots clinched today’s win over the Chiefs on a strange play, a Tom Brady pass that bounced off both Chiefs linebacker Tamba Hali and Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski before ending up in the hands of Julian Edelman, who grabbed the ball and fell down at the stick for a first down.

At least, the officials on the field ruled it a first down. Based on the CBS camera angle that showed the play live, it’s unclear whether Edelman actually got the first down or not.

This was a game-deciding first down: The Patriots only had to kneel down to run out the clock after that, but if it had been ruled short of the line to gain, it would have been third down and the Patriots would have had to run another play and try to pick up the first down. If the Chiefs had stopped the Patriots on third down, Kansas City could have gotten the ball back with about 50 seconds left, only down by seven points.

It’s impossible to say by the camera angles CBS showed whether it was the right call or not, but it was definitely the wrong call for the replay assistant not to call for a review of the play. There might have been another camera angle that showed definitively whether the ball got across the line to gain before Edelman went down. On a decisive play like that, the replay assistant simply must buzz down to the referee and tell him to review it.

In this case, the replay assistant didn’t, and the Patriots sealed the win on a close call that may have been the wrong call.

87 responses to “Edelman’s game-clinching first down should have been reviewed

  1. My favorite was when the refs waved off a Patriots play to see if Reid wanted to throw a review flag for a prior play. Is that even a thing that can happen? Apparently so, just like “inadvertent whistles” and saying a WR can take three steps before fumbling and it isn’t really a catch in the first place.

  2. The only thing that should be in review is the Chiefs 2-minute drill. Gawd that was bad clock management.

  3. Replay official: “It was the damnedest thing. I picked up the headset and went to buzz the sidelines, but all I could hear was the Chiefs’ play calls.”

  4. Didn’t seem as if the Chiefs cared whether or not they won.

    The clock management and pace of play was so piss poor in the last 8 minutes of the game, it frustrated announcer Dan Fouts and made me turn off the game with 3 minutes left to take a dump.

  5. Don’t worry about a good view, we got lots of zoom-ins, tight angles, crowd-cuts and player close ups instead of a good stationary angle that shows the field.

  6. Andy Reid is very good at many things. He has built perennial playoff teams out of dreck in two different cities.

    But he cannot game manage himself out of a paper bag. Anytime you see a team huddling up with the clock running at 1:30 down 2 tds with 3 timeouts left, you know you’re hopeless.

    Nothing would have helped the Chiefs today. They simply weren’t good enough to overcome their coaching staff’s incompetence.

  7. I’m a Pats fan. Didn’t see this p lay but…… This is a generic problem. The refs routinely grant first downs and have all year. It’s a joke.

  8. Notice roughing called on marginal play by Chiefs, but when Smith was hit out of bounds and horse collared, no call.
    The no review was par for the course, but Reid should have insisted on a review.
    Reid is Belichick’s boy.

  9. As long a Alex Smith is anyone’s starting QB you will always be that STRIPPER with the ONE LEG.Not ever complete to take in the champagne room.
    And that ladies and gents is your Quintessential BACK UP QB.
    Once your team gets into any deficit, you have a better chance winning the power-ball than having him bring you back.
    .

  10. dodgerlakerfan1969 says:
    Jan 16, 2016 8:07 PM
    Guess that makes up for the holding call on Edelman in the ends one that forced a 4th down.

    An obvious pass interference call that would have given the Pats a 1st down at the Chiefs 1 and probably a TD to put them up by 18 and end the game sooner.

    But writing about that fact will not generate enough hits on this site.

  11. And Amendola should have been booted after his first cheap shot. Brutal play and he should have been gone. Doesn’t change the fact they gave NE half a yard to end the game. Should have been reviewed

  12. Took Edleman awhile to settle in. And thankfully that pain injection that Gronk got this week seems to have helped. Great game. Alex Smith is a very good quarterback. Not sure what happened to them at the end there, but overall it was a good game on both sides.

  13. vancouversportsbro says:
    Jan 16, 2016 8:04 PM
    But the league office hates us!

    -pats fans

    ——————————–
    Man I feel bad for you bro. Your whole existence revolves around Boston. Are you still sore from the Cup finals or the Super Bowl. Van city can win lacrosse titles or soccer titles. But you know it and I know it the Sendens will never hoist a Cup. Good luck sleeping tonight.

    It’s just sad.

    the mayor has spoken.

  14. Losers and haters… Your bitter tears are exquisite.
    Whine away … That’s your only consolation and diversion in your miserable lives.
    Now on to watch the Packers and the Cards. Time to relax and enjoy the game.

  15. Just what the game needed, more reviews. The game was slowed enough by the officials. At least KC did what they could to keep the clock running.

  16. Good old Andrew does it again absolutely the most.overrated coach ever all his team’s wherever he’s coached win in spite of his bumbling clock management and yet he gets a pass go back to Philly check how many big games his team’s don’t show up kc your in for a long nightmare

  17. For the second playoff game in a row in new england, all the footballs were below legal limit during the game.

    70 degrees -33 degrees change in temp * .051= 1.6 psi change.

    Every degree farenheit change in temp =.051 change in psi

    Its a fact… call your high school science teacher if you dont believe me.

    Give us our picks back!

  18. Of course they cheated in this game and every game. Belicheat also caused global warming, Jones is a major Cartel Leader, Brady stomps puppies. Right? Right?

  19. If the league can’t get a call right after replay as easy as seeing that martavius Bryant did not have control IN BOUNDS…. Then there’s no point in reviewing anything else. They’re blind or just following the script. Either way… NFL gets their dream of one last showdown between Peyton and Tommy.

  20. This is a reach. Side note, are the Chiefs still on the field? The way they played the final 4 minutes I’m pretty sure the thought it was 3rd quarter

  21. Good game, did not care who won. But, if the Chief’s got the ball back they were not gonna win without a fluke thing happening. Patriots had them the whole game. They had as much hope of winning at that point as Houston did the week before. Not a chance, even with getting the ball back.

  22. honestly, is anyone really surprised the replay ref decided this game for the Patriots?

    a team that runs more moving pick plays than the John Havlicek Celtics?

    a team that gets away with more holding on both sides of the ball than a Titanic survivor to the side of the last lifeboat?

    a team whose QB is treated like a Faberge egg by the officials and the league?

    any team foolish enough to let them stay within two touchdowns, especially in the playoffs, is simply courting certain disaster;

    from the replay booth;

  23. “….If the league can’t get a call right after replay as easy as seeing that martavius Bryant did not have control IN BOUNDS….”
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    gotta give Bryant points for style on that catch though. Legitimate or not, that was one amazing catch.

  24. the play that needed reviewing was that Brady’s left handed throw was about two yards short of the line of scrimmage so it SHOULD have been called intentional grounding. And I was rooting for Pats. But it wouldn’t have mattered anyway….Andy Reid having Alex Smith huddling up in 2 minute drill (that took 5:16 off clock) is what caused them ultimately to lose. And in the press conference he seemed flabbergasted that someone asked him about clock management on that last drive.

  25. vikinghooper says:
    Jan 16, 2016 8:12 PM
    Notice roughing called on marginal play by Chiefs, but when Smith was hit out of bounds and horse collared, no call.
    The no review was par for the course, but Reid should have insisted on a review.
    Reid is Belichick’s boy.
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    The fact that so many thumbed this down just shows you the moronic nature of New England fans/supporters.

  26. Ahhh the tears of haters. What, no claims of headphone problems? What about the footballs, they’d better measure the psi! Oh, the pats were doing something, wa, wa, waaaaaaaa…
    I’m picturing all the haters in the fetal position on the floor sulking, thumb stuck firmly in mouth.
    The more whining and crying by haters, the more satisfying the win. The tears of haters make each win oooooooh so much more saweeeet! please keep whining and crying and making excuses!!!!!

  27. Notice roughing called on marginal play by Chiefs, but when Smith was hit out of bounds and horse collared, no call.
    The no review was par for the course, but Reid should have insisted on a review.
    Reid is Belichick’s boy.
    ————-

    The fact that so many thumbed this down just shows you the moronic nature of New England fans/supporters.
    ===
    Nope.
    It wasn’t a horse collar.
    The tackle started in bounds.
    Brady was hit by a man who ran three steps after Brady threw the ball.

    People are giving the OP thumbs down because he’s wrong.

  28. I think by then I can’t rule out that KC petitioned for the first down to be awarded because they wanted to shower and get on the plane.

    I mean really, It seemed much sooner than that they were only going through the motions to run out the game.

    Related note – KC is a team on their way up. Next year will be interesting.

  29. Seriously! Can’t we enjoy one playoff win without whining??? The Patriots are a great team…don’t let your jealousy cloud your vision…minimal significance to this call and if it was questionable, the second year ref would have asked for help…he blew several calls against Patriots but game was lost by Chiefs! especially their coach and QB who did not measure up and panicked in a playoff game!

  30. I see some comp,aunts about. A fix being in for the Pats. Those guys are selectively looking at calls while ignoring others. Then I see some other posts where guys are implying the league office was out to screw the Pats. Those guys are also selectively look at certain calls while ignoring others.

    If you take the claims by each side and/or the set of calls each side is fixating on, they all cancel each other out and all we are left with is a football game in which the better team won.

  31. laserw says:
    Jan 16, 2016 9:19 PM

    All of these New England cheaters calls will be deliious when Tomasina Brady is carted off with his leg flopped on the cart surface when it should be pointing upwards – it is hard to respect a woman like he has become – whining and tantrum throwing little prima donna


    Doesn’t it embarrass this Gwen he reads it back?

  32. The Chiefs were a fraud. Not built for the playoffs when face up against the real dogs.

    Same as the Texans, Redskins, and Packers. Nobody outside of Missouri took them serious.

  33. Can we also point out that was only 2nd down? I looked very carefully at the replay because I wondered. It was a first down… relieved….

  34. Don’t forget that the pats were written off again this year, that has nothing to do with anything but just makes that last play not being reviewed sting a little more.

  35. Where is the fooldrool? Has anybody heard about him? No? Yeah that’s right. And the factman? It seems that the clowns had fled the circus.

  36. bradyakagod says:
    Jan 16, 2016 9:44 PM
    Don’t forget that the pats were written off again this year, that has nothing to do with anything but just makes that last play not being reviewed sting a little more.

    ——————————————————————–

    Did obvious pass interference by KC in the end zone not getting called sting just as much or are you playing this one sided?

  37. “tattooit says:
    Jan 16, 2016 9:34 PM
    The Chiefs were a fraud. Not built for the playoffs when face up against the real dogs.”

    They lost in New England by a TD – and had several failed opportunities on the NE side of the field.
    Yeah – great point – they clearly didn’t belong.

  38. The defending super bowl champions are going to their fifth straight AFC title game. Who do Miami, Indy and Baltimore play this weekend? Yikes.

  39. Hell, when you are watching the Pat’s play there’s never a questionable call that doesn’t go their way. That’s what it’s like to have a billion dollar owner that greasing the skids every game that’s even close. The only way to beat the Pats is to blow them out in the first qtr. where there are no close calls for the ownership to ‘tweak’ the game. Damn, I hate the Patriots and all that they stand for. Watching them play is like watching the officiating travesty of the century. I just wonder how much the Pat’s ownership actually pays the NFL for each game donated.

  40. If the Chiefs would have gotten the ball back with 50 seconds left, they would have only needed a touchdown to tie it. By my calculations, based on the previous drive, they could have gained about 7 yards in 50 seconds. So, as long as they returned the punt to the NE 6, they had a chance to tie.

  41. Amendola should’ve been thrown out of the game for the blatant dirty hit he put on the Chiefs player trying to down the punt! He also threw a punch at a player right after that & NOTHING was said about that either! It was a targeted helmet to helmet hit ! What a cheap shot by a cheap team! Why didn’t Brady get called for the intentional grounding call on the left handed pass? A flag was thrown & then picked up! WTF? Of course the Pats got away with it & A LOT of other holding & interference plays & several dirty chop blocks & I don’t know how many illegal picks! This bad ref crap is getting ridiculous! The Cards-Packers game was even worse!

  42. Let’s see if the Amendola dirty hit play is reviewed by The Puppet Master this week & see if he gets fined or not! Maybe get a game suspension? Would anyone care to bet that he doesn’t get fined a FN dime? No punishment at all? Nothing will happen because all Kraft has to do is write another check & make another donation to Goddells retirement fund account!

  43. Say it aint so Joe. I still remember the hit he took in last year super bowl i thought he should have went through concussion protocal.

    The Zebras blow calls both ways.

  44. As always, haters, thanks for the tears. Your blinders, your hyperbole, your hypocrisy, and your endless commitment to explaining away New England’s success demonstrates your futile rage, and it. Is. Awesome.

  45. Wow, this is really grasping at straws. I know the media hates the patriots, but this is a little ridiculous. I watched it, it was a first down to me, and even if it wasn’t, they would have gotten it on the next play. And even if they didn’t, and the Chiefs got the ball back, they still wouldn’t have won. They needed a TD not a FG.

  46. “Hell, when you are watching the Pat’s play there’s never a questionable call that doesn’t go their way.”

    Nope. You people are just so obsessed with hating the Patriots that when you’re sitting there seething with anger watching them win it blinds you to reality. Case in point — the Brady scramble was clearly a touchdown. The ball was behind his hips as his legs knocked over the pylon.

    Get over it.

  47. “It wasn’t Edelman, it was Amondola.”

    These people do not care one bit about the actual facts of anything. I mean seriously, someone actually gave your post a thumbs down. We are dealing with a group of delusional, hate filled, jealous, losers that live in a different reality where they decide the facts. Never forget that.

  48. bigwii says:
    Jan 16, 2016 10:36 PM

    That’s a lot of assumptions Doni, are you sure they’re facts?
    _______________________________
    Haters can only deal in assumptions. There are never facts to back their whining. My favorite part of that last first down was it was deflected and wound up in Edelman’s hands for the first down. I could only smile when I thought of all the trolls getting their hopes up seeing that deflection only to have it end up in a Patriot’s hands and cursing because the Patriot’s are in the AFC championship game, AGAIN! Looking forward to your excuses when they win that game and go to the SB!

  49. Whining about it just makes you look pathetic. That’s why I love it. You show you true colors. Just remember, the defending super bowl champions are going to their fifth straight AFC title game. That’s the tenth AFC title game in Brady’s career. Now I see why you are so frustrated………..Awesome.

  50. “It’s impossible to say by the camera angles CBS showed whether it was the right call or not, but it was definitely the wrong call for the replay assistant not to call for a review of the play.”

    This is not true. Computer processing is good enough to analyze the video to determine the position of the ball when the runner was down. The fact that nobody did it doesn’t make it impossible.

  51. “Should have been reviewed”? What was Andy Reid doing with his red challenge flag, blowing his nose into it?

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