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Brady “never imagined” going to 10 AFC title games

during the AFC Divisional Playoff Game at Gillette Stadium on January 16, 2016 in Foxboro, Massachusetts. Getty Images

With Saturday’s win over the Chiefs, the Patriots advanced to the AFC championship game for the fifth straight year and the 10th time overall since quarterback Tom Brady joined the team.

Those 10 appearances are an NFL record and more than 27 teams have made in the history of their franchises, which is a run of success that could make Sunday’s trip to Denver seem like just part of the job. Brady says that while it might be “natural” to have a little less appreciation for making it so far so often, it hasn’t worn off on him.

“It’s beyond what I’d ever imagined in my wildest dreams,” Brady said on “Dennis & Callahan” on WEEI. “I remember the first one I ever participated in, which was in Pittsburgh. We had to fly there on a Friday. I missed Friday of practice so I could do a press conference at the site of the game. It was the first time it really felt like, wow, this is a big deal. Fifteen years later, to be a part of 10 of those, I never imagined that any of this was ever even possible. I just knew that I loved the game, and I played with so many great teammates who have, like I said, sacrificed so much. When you play with teammates like I have and you see what they go through over the course of the season, what they deal with in their lives personally, how that reacts to them professionally, kind of the blood, sweat and tears you put into it, you never take it for granted.”

Brady would likely say the same about making a seventh trip to the Super Bowl, something he says will take “max effort” against the Broncos in a city where he’s won twice in eight tries.

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  1. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 18, 2016 9:25 AM

    GOAT.

    Any other opinion is just being in denial about reality.
    🙂

  2. helmetcatch says: Jan 18, 2016 9:34 AM

    He never imagined cheating would make it so easy!

  3. rutherforddabrave says: Jan 18, 2016 9:34 AM

    Definitely the GOAT. -not a pats fan

  4. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 18, 2016 9:36 AM

    The science deniers will be out in force on every Pats thread the next week.

    I wonder what its like to get on a plane hoping the engine elves have enough magic pixie dust that the planes won’t crash. Lolz

    4770 yards, 36 TDs only 7 Ints with those fully inflated balls that Brady “can’t throw”. And that was with Edelman out for 7 games. Would have been over 5000 yards if he’d not been injured. Maybe over 600o if Deion Lewis hadn’t been injured.

    How’s that for a morning meal Pats haters ?

  5. rideforjesus says: Jan 18, 2016 9:40 AM

    Tom Brady……say what you will. You cannot deny his winning records as a QB.

    He is a first ballet HOF player.

  6. grant35 says: Jan 18, 2016 9:43 AM

    Hey if you can’t beat ’em, cheat ’em!

  7. cantescapekarma says: Jan 18, 2016 9:45 AM

    Think about this – as great as Brady/Belichick and the Patriots are, and as dominant as they have been, they still haven’t been able to match the Buffalo Bills feat of reaching 4 straight Super Bowls. Yeah, the Bills lost all 4, but it’s still one heck of an accomplishment. One that will probably never be matched.

  8. 6ball says: Jan 18, 2016 9:51 AM

    .
    Every game the Patriots have played since 2001 has had playoff implications.
    .

  9. cjmullysr says: Jan 18, 2016 9:52 AM

    And….once again, #1 in the league in terms of protecting the ball and not fumbling….even with the “inflated balls.” Apparently, the smoking gun is not what it seemed.

  10. rootpain says: Jan 18, 2016 9:55 AM

    “Twice in eight tries”. And you can bet Goodell is hoping that it will be twice in nine tries.
    Won’t happen though. Not that the loss in Denver was a throw away game, but it obviously was less important to the Patriots than healing up for this game and the SuperBowl. Only the Patriots have the emotional strength to do that.

  11. imodan says: Jan 18, 2016 9:56 AM

    It will be fun seeing how many times the media mentions deflategate/spygate/cheating when referencing the Patriots/Brady vs. the mentions of HGH/Multiple salary cap infractions of Denver/Manning. Actually it won’t be fun. It will be maddening as heck at the hypocrisy. 10 AFC championship games in 15 years……….TEN!! Chew on that haters. Then choke on the 6 Super Bowls and 4 Lombardi’s.

  12. pastabelly says: Jan 18, 2016 9:57 AM

    For what it’s worth, I thought the Chiefs were tough and they made the Patriots work for everything they got. This tenth trip was earned and not easy.

  13. stealthjunk says: Jan 18, 2016 10:01 AM

    Deflated balls are more useful in cold weather. So look at Brady’s stats/losses since the weather turned cold, not when it’s 70 degrees in Foxhole. Your whole argument falls apart at that point.

  14. rutledge3197 says: Jan 18, 2016 10:01 AM

    All those trips to all those AFC title games and yet he still has won 4 ::: the same amount as Bradshaw & Montana who appeared in only 6 championship games and neither ever lost a Super Bowl

  15. wattambor says: Jan 18, 2016 10:04 AM

    He also never imagined how much his franchise would cheat to win. And how much he would be allowed to get away with. Nothing he has and nothing he’s done is legitimate. Awesome legacy, bro

  16. darkneptune73 says: Jan 18, 2016 10:06 AM

    I still respect Brady but the Patriots were caught cheating twice during those 10 trips to the AFC title game. Just saying.

  17. dyims says: Jan 18, 2016 10:16 AM

    It’s amazing that all of these people who are so damn jealous of the success can just dismiss the fact that in FEDERAL Court the NFL ADMITTED that it had NO EVIDENCE that the balls had been tampered with. Go back and read the court transcripts, if you can’t read and/or your reading comprehension is woefully lacking, have someone read and explain it to you.

  18. chadsmith013 says: Jan 18, 2016 10:19 AM

    by max effort he meant max cheating..

  19. artvan15 says: Jan 18, 2016 10:20 AM

    These Patriot haters teams wouldn’t be good enough to cheat and win. The talent and smarts is just not there.

  20. florioisworsthuman says: Jan 18, 2016 10:20 AM

    The last bastion for the fumble truthers is cold weather games (even though back in March they were talking about season-long numbers). Keep moving the goal posts, and Tom Brady will keep reaching them. It must be maddening for you all.

    And is there any doubt: if you harp on deflated footballs you also think Donald Trump is brilliant. Just saying…

  21. fantom21 says: Jan 18, 2016 10:23 AM

    This game is going to be a blow out. Steelers shouldn’t have advanced and the Broncos barely beat a team without its best playmakers sans Big Ben. Brady and Co look well on their way to another Super Bowl appearance.

  22. qbarrel says: Jan 18, 2016 10:24 AM

    stealthjunk says:
    Jan 18, 2016 10:01 AM
    Deflated balls are more useful in cold weather. So look at Brady’s stats/losses since the weather turned cold, not when it’s 70 degrees in Foxhole. Your whole argument falls apart at that point.

    ————–

    Yeah, he really sucked in the AFCCG.

    Seriously though, his stats/losses “since the weather turned cold” couldn’t possibly have anything to do with all of the injured starters on offfense, could it?

  23. mmack66 says: Jan 18, 2016 10:24 AM

    cantescapekarma says:
    Jan 18, 2016 9:45 AM

    Think about this – as great as Brady/Belichick and the Patriots are, and as dominant as they have been, they still haven’t been able to match the Buffalo Bills feat of reaching 4 straight Super Bowls. Yeah, the Bills lost all 4, but it’s still one heck of an accomplishment. One that will probably never be matched.
    ——————————–

    The only part of that accomplishment that people will ever remember is the ultimate embarrassment of losing 4 Super Bowls in a row.

    No one cares that they got there 4 straight times.

  24. jsavage58 says: Jan 18, 2016 10:29 AM

    dammit i hate tom brady. dammit he is really really good.

  25. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Jan 18, 2016 10:32 AM

    rutledge3197 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 10:01 AM
    All those trips to all those AFC title games and yet he still has won 4 ::: the same amount as Bradshaw & Montana who appeared in only 6 championship games and neither ever lost a Super Bowl
    ——————————

    rut keeps putting that up like it is a badge of honor that Bradshaw & his boy Montana failed to take their teams as far as Brady took his. Look at your own words “ONLY 6 championship games.”
    I am a lifelong Pats fan and season ticket holder since ’82. Prior to last year I was forced to give the nod to Montana over Brady even though Brady had consistently done more with less simply because of the rings. While it is a fools errand to compare players from different eras and say one is the best when they have the same number of rings I can now safely say Montana was not better than Brady.

    Food for thought, if Brady wins another the conversation is over. The glaring difference in how we view things is that I don’t need to tear Montana down to build Brady up. Nothing will take away Joe Cool’s accomplishments

  26. tedmurph says: Jan 18, 2016 10:33 AM

    Montana played 16 years and only managed to get to 7 Championship games, where he went 4-3. He also had 4 one and outs. In Brady’s 17 yr career he’s going to his 10th. 6-3 so far, 2 one and outs. No comparison. And, nobody in their right mind would compare Bradshaw to Brady. Even so, Bradshaw got to only 6 title gms and went 4-2. Sorry, the argument is over, even though Brady’s career isn’t yet.

  27. PATRIOTSDYNASTYLIVES says: Jan 18, 2016 10:34 AM

    I have no complaints and as a lifelong fan I am spoiled I know that…..Its gonna end at some point but for now I am grinning ear to ear……..

  28. borisbulldog says: Jan 18, 2016 10:34 AM

    True Dat!

    The Bills will be remembered for what they were-4 time losers!

    Pray that know other team matches that!

  29. opposedtoinbreeders says: Jan 18, 2016 10:40 AM

    Brady lost his case in court. The judge found there was more than enough evidence that Brady cheated. Right? Was the fix in? Good. Belicheat caused global warming.

  30. phuckauffewe says: Jan 18, 2016 10:44 AM

    Cheat, cheat, spy gate, cheat, under inflated balls, cheat, headphones, cheat, illegal formations, cheat, push the letter of rules, cheat, rules are changed because they cheated, cheat, steal signals, cheat, steal play books, cheat, bug visitors locker rooms, cheat, Belicheat, cheat, Asterix, cheat, Shady Brady cheat, blah blah blah.

    There you go haters, just copy and paste this to every single post or story about the Patriots, and save yourselves a lot of time, it’s not as if us Patriot fans are bothering to read your clever, witty and oh, SO ORIGINAL posts which as always, have nothing to do with the article.

    We understand, your teams continue to be mediocre and don’t draft, scout, practice, develop players, design plays and strategies as well as the Patriots, and it’s always the Patriots’ fault. We get it, the only way it happens isn’t related to the failings of your team, it’s the Patriots cheating. We get it.

    Your teams are great, it’s why at best your team only play the Patriots twice a year, some only once a year, and most. not at all. Yet, your team has more than two loses.

    We get it, Belicheat is also stealing victories from you and giving them to the other teams that play you. It’s obvious, he is Darth Vader, able to use Jedi Mind tricks throughout the country during multiple games. It’s why he has to wear a hoodie. To disguise himself.

    So please, save time, don’t stress your little pea brains, just cut and past the beginning of my post. Because really, you never have anything of relevance or originality to say, and are only repeating things that other haters already accept and the rest of us ignore.

    Yawn.

  31. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Jan 18, 2016 10:45 AM

    darkneptune73 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 10:06 AM
    I still respect Brady but the Patriots were caught cheating twice during those 10 trips to the AFC title game. Just saying.
    ——————————–

    Except, of course, they weren’t. The rule change/memo that is at the crux of spygate didn’t happen until after they had been to 4 and won their first 3 SB’s. As to framegate, where there’s smoke often times there is fire but sometimes there’s a smoke machine or in roger’s case a smoke bomb.

  32. philtration says: Jan 18, 2016 10:46 AM

    cantescapekarma says:
    Jan 18, 2016 9:45 AM
    Think about this – as great as Brady/Belichick and the Patriots are, and as dominant as they have been, they still haven’t been able to match the Buffalo Bills feat of reaching 4 straight Super Bowls. Yeah, the Bills lost all 4, but it’s still one heck of an accomplishment. One that will probably never be matched.
    ==================================

    The Bears went to 4 straight Championship games and won 3 out of the 4.
    The Browns went to 6 straight Championship games and won 3 out of the 6.

    Who really wants to go to 4 straight title games and walk away empty handed?

  33. rutledge3197 says: Jan 18, 2016 10:49 AM

    I’m NOT 49ers fan by any means… Nah you can’t compare era to era ( if Brady played in the 70’s or80’s his career would have ended rather quickly)…. However my point is Bradshaw & Montana won 4 titles as many as your BOY …. Who has gone to the AFC title game 10 times… For as dominant as all the PATS fans claim they are ( even if you win this year ) the way you babble on NE should have 8 or 9 SB’s … Hell they have only been to 2 in a row once…. The fact is this era differences aside NE the team isn’t as great as you fans make it sound …..back to the basement for you and yours is just around the corner….. And then all you talk about is the past

  34. xxsweepthelegxx says: Jan 18, 2016 10:54 AM

    rutledge3197 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 10:01 AM
    All those trips to all those AFC title games and yet he still has won 4 ::: the same amount as Bradshaw & Montana who appeared in only 6 championship games and neither ever lost a Super Bowl
    ———-
    First off, putting Montana and Bradshaw in the same conversation is laughable.

    Secondly, what a weird way to think that it is somehow better to lose in an earlier round of the playoffs, or not even make the playoffs, then lose in a conference championship or SB game.

  35. lesterclan says: Jan 18, 2016 11:04 AM

    I never expected to pass all of my tests in school…until I learned I could cheat. Wow, what a difference!!

  36. rocketcharger says: Jan 18, 2016 11:06 AM

    Just imagine if he turned over his phone ?
    “We know you took the money Lebowski”

  37. streetyson says: Jan 18, 2016 11:06 AM

    As a big Montana fan, I finally started giving the nod to Brady last Feb. For not only did Montana and Bradshaw reach deep into the playoffs less often than Brady, they did so in eras before the parity rules of salary caps and modern free agency, which meant that a good team could far more easily stay together for multiple SB runs.

  38. flash1287 says: Jan 18, 2016 11:08 AM

    rutledge3197 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 10:49 AM
    I’m NOT 49ers fan by any means… Nah you can’t compare era to era ( if Brady played in the 70’s or80’s his career would have ended rather quickly)…. However my point is Bradshaw & Montana won 4 titles as many as your BOY …. Who has gone to the AFC title game 10 times… For as dominant as all the PATS fans claim they are ( even if you win this year ) the way you babble on NE should have 8 or 9 SB’s … Hell they have only been to 2 in a row once…. The fact is this era differences aside NE the team isn’t as great as you fans make it sound …..back to the basement for you and yours is just around the corner….. And then all you talk about is the past

    Pssssssd… I will let you in on a little secret.

    It isn’t JUST “NE Fans” that say how great they are or have been.

    It’s pretty much the agreement of almost EVERYBODY!!

    When all these former players and coaches on all theses shows talk about there greatness and dominance over the last 20 years are you saying they are all WRONG but you have it all figured out?

    Yes I said over 20 years.

    Since 1994 they have won more regular season games
    More playoff games
    More SB
    And played in more SB

    So NO, it not just “patriot fans”.

    The ONLY people who say otherwise are usually the jealous ones.

  39. flash1287 says: Jan 18, 2016 11:12 AM

    back to the basement for you and yours is just around the corner….. And then all you talk about is the past

    Crybaby myth #127

    “The Patriots were not good prior to 2001

    Now the actual truth…

    have won more regular season games
    More playoff games
    More SB
    And played in more SB

    As long as the Kraft family owns the team they will be like the Steelers a good competitive franchise.

    It’s all starts with the ownership

  40. bettywhiteshairnet says: Jan 18, 2016 11:17 AM

    As much as i hate to admit it…….
    Definitely the GOAT– Bills fan

  41. skinnylegspeytonmanning says: Jan 18, 2016 11:19 AM

    Not a Brady or Pats fan but 10 AFC Championship games???? That is mind blowing and a record that will never be broken.

  42. ptl2323 says: Jan 18, 2016 11:24 AM

    When you play in the worst division in the NFL for the past 15 years I sure hope you make it to that many Conference games. The Pats get a first round bye because they automatically start the season with 6 wins! The Jets, Dolphins and Bills? Come on man! You still have to win the games but I’m pretty sure you put Ravens, Steelers, Bengals in that division and move the Pats to the North they wouldn’t have this same record! Just saying……go ahead and defend your joke of a division Pats fans!!!

  43. helmetcatch says: Jan 18, 2016 11:26 AM

    Even if brady wins a 5th, the pats fans saying the conversation is over are hilarious. Is it going to be any wonder to anybody that the QB with the most SBs also happens to be the one on the team hit with record fines and penalties for cheating. TWICE. It won’t. Tainted forever.

  44. helmetcatch says: Jan 18, 2016 11:31 AM

    “chesswhileyouplaycheckers says:
    Jan 18, 2016 10:45 AM
    The rule change/memo that is at the crux of spygate didn’t happen until after they had been to 4 and won their first 3 SB’s”

    WRONG. A common misconception by patriots fans. The memo was only a reminder (aimed at the patriots) to stop cheating. Of course, as we all know, they didn’t.

  45. RE LEE says: Jan 18, 2016 11:37 AM

    ahhhh… Poor haters… Deflate Gate scam is not stopping Brady. Brady cheats to win, right? Live in your fantasy world. Goodell and his minions can conjure another – gate but Brady will just breeze through them. Know why? Because he does not cheat. He just works like a fiend and dedicate his life to the game he loves. Try as you might, haters, you can not discredit Brady’s accomplishments. He’s a legend… already.

  46. rutledge3197 says: Jan 18, 2016 11:48 AM

    Pssssst. …. I let you in on the REAL secret
    THE NFL DID NOT START IN 1994
    You just wanna use that time frame because it suits you
    I prefer at least the merger
    And like I said the end is just around the corner

  47. tedmurph says: Jan 18, 2016 12:10 PM

    Wrong. The memo reworded the the rule that was in place, trying to update it. That’s illegal under NFL bylaws. There’s a procedure for changing a rule. You can’t just issue a memo

  48. eyeandfootballofhorus says: Jan 18, 2016 12:12 PM

    every division is lame except for one, maybe two teams tops. it’s hard to assemble a winning team in the NFL. look at the NFC east–talk about lame! the redskins made the playoffs?!?…or the AFC south, with their ‘powerhouses’ the texans(apologies to vince w.) and colts. you could argue about the AFC north, but one of those 3 ‘elite’ teams is, after all, the bungles.

  49. bushwoodcc says: Jan 18, 2016 12:14 PM

    cantescapekarma says:
    Jan 18, 2016 9:45 AM

    Think about this – as great as Brady/Belichick and the Patriots are, and as dominant as they have been, they still haven’t been able to match the Buffalo Bills feat of reaching 4 straight Super Bowls. Yeah, the Bills lost all 4, but it’s still one heck of an accomplishment. One that will probably never be matched.
    ________________________________________

    And all that ever got them was an acronym. B.I.L.L.S. = Boy I Love Losing SuperBowls

    But in all honesty going to 4 straight was quite an amazing accomplishment. One that gets overlooked because of how easily the Bills were beaten in 3 of those games.

    I think had the Bills been able to salvage even 1 win in the Super Bowl during that run that we’d look back on those 4 straight appearances a bit more glowingly.

    I know everyone looks back at “wide right” in that Bills Giants game, but I’m still amazed that Hostetler managed to hang on to the football when Smith got him for the safety. Talk about a game changer.

  50. factman66 says: Jan 18, 2016 12:17 PM

    Memo or no memo the rule already existed. The memo wasn’t a revised version or new rule, it was a reminder. Those are the facts.

  51. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 18, 2016 12:23 PM

    “WRONG. A common misconception by patriots fans. The memo was only a reminder (aimed at the patriots) to stop cheating. Of course, as we all know, they didn’t.”

    Actually you’re wrong, it was not illegal to film from the sidelines. And it was common practice that coaches like Jimmy Johnson admitted to. Which after doing it awhile Johnson stopped because he felt it “gave him no advantage”

    Furthermore, you do realize there are these things called zoom lenses don’t you ? Had the Pats filmed the signals from 30′ farther away with a zoom lens they would have gotten the same results without violating a procedural rule.

    It is the job of each coaching staff to analyze the other team’s formations, tendencies, play selection, signals and everything else the other team does. None of which is illegal. And all f which still goes one with every team and coach having huge databases on every other team.

  52. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 18, 2016 12:26 PM

    “Just imagine if he turned over his phone ?”

    What the phone that Wells and company examined thoroughly and told Brady they no longer wanted to see or had any use for ? That phone ?

  53. factman66 says: Jan 18, 2016 12:30 PM

    Jimmy Johnson admitted to stealing signals, not illegally filming. Read his quote, its plain as day.

  54. helmetcatch says: Jan 18, 2016 12:32 PM

    “harrisonhits2 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 12:23 PM
    “WRONG. A common misconception by patriots fans. The memo was only a reminder (aimed at the patriots) to stop cheating. Of course, as we all know, they didn’t.”

    Actually you’re wrong, it was not illegal to film from the sidelines. And it was common practice that coaches like Jimmy Johnson admitted to. Which after doing it awhile Johnson stopped because he felt it “gave him no advantage”

    Furthermore, you do realize there are these things called zoom lenses don’t you ? Had the Pats filmed the signals from 30′ farther away with a zoom lens they would have gotten the same results without violating a procedural rule.”

    YOURE wrong. It was illegal. It’s amazing that Pats fans think one of the rules in the NFL bylaws was changed with a simple memo. If you bother to read the bylaws you will see that the rule is not even an ammendment to the document!

    why are the pats so stupid to break a rule which they could have easily circumvented by doing what you say? they couldnt. the vantage point is different. spin it any way you want. They cheated. From 2000 – 2007. I’m referring to the taping only. I’m sure theyre doing something different now.

  55. gooboy6 says: Jan 18, 2016 12:40 PM

    He never imagined cheating as much as he does either. Hoodie has it all mapped out. Highway to hell boys , enjoy it

  56. flash1287 says: Jan 18, 2016 12:40 PM

    misconception by patriots fans. The memo was only a reminder (aimed at the patriots) to stop cheating. Of course, as we all kn

    wrong

    It went out to everyone because they all did it.

  57. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 18, 2016 12:42 PM

    I have read Johnson’s quote. And I heard him discuss the matter on one of the sports shows. He said very specifically that he used to film signals and that he stopped the practice because he felt it gave him no advantage and was a waste of time.

    Because, you know, you can have a low paid offensive assistant sitting on the sidelines charting plays on paper and get the same data.

    Stealing signals is not and never has been illegal. Every team attempts to do so or their coaching staffs are not doing their jobs properly.

  58. flash1287 says: Jan 18, 2016 12:45 PM

    He also said.

    utledge3197 says:
    Rest your players cuz you have ONLY one more game left after this Sunday ……

  59. dingusgenius says: Jan 18, 2016 12:52 PM

    “WRONG. A common misconception by patriots fans. The memo was only a reminder (aimed at the patriots) to stop cheating. Of course, as we all know, they didn’t.”

    150% INCORRECT. The rule changed between those two seasons, AFTER the Patriots had already won 3 Super Bowls. The “cheating” (lol) occurred in one game (first game of the season) against the Jets. Remember what happened after that? Remember Brady lighting up the league with Moss? LOL, sounds familiar doesn’t it?

    FACTS MATTER

  60. factman66 says: Jan 18, 2016 12:56 PM

    “In 2006, when Packers security caught cameraman Matt Estrella filming illegally. (He claimed he was merely taking scenic shots for “Kraft Productions.”) That offseason, the NFL warned the Patriots in writing. Before the next year’s opener the Jets set up a sting operation, with the assistance of team and NFL security, to catch the Patriots in the act.”
    These are the facts.

  61. fireroger says: Jan 18, 2016 12:59 PM

    stealthjunk says:
    Jan 18, 2016 10:01 AM
    Deflated balls are more useful in cold weather. So look at Brady’s stats/losses since the weather turned cold, not when it’s 70 degrees in Foxhole. Your whole argument falls apart at that point.
    ===============
    Ok let’s do that …

    The past 5 years for Brady in the last 5 weeks of the season (weeks 12-16) …

    18-7 (W-L) 599 CMP 964 ATT 62% CMP% 6806 YDS 47 TDs 17 INTs

    Can’t wait to see how the argument falls apart.

  62. 2irishanml says: Jan 18, 2016 1:08 PM

    I have also heard Johnson on interviews claim he videotaped and stopped because he felt it didn’t give him an advantage. If you are really going to call it cheating to be taping from the side of the field instead of from a press box, then you are just an over reactive bunch of whiners. Much like Trump supporters. Brady is the most consistent QB I have ever seen. Whether he would’ve lasted in the 70’s is just a silly debate. Would Montana have lasted playing for say, the Browns in the 70’s. Who knows. I imagine Montana took a lot less hits being on that superb team than most other QB’s did, so I imagine Brady would’ve done just as well had he been on the 49er’s in those days.

  63. helmetcatch says: Jan 18, 2016 1:12 PM

    “dingusgenius says:
    Jan 18, 2016 12:52 PM
    “WRONG. A common misconception by patriots fans. The memo was only a reminder (aimed at the patriots) to stop cheating. Of course, as we all know, they didn’t.”

    150% INCORRECT. The rule changed between those two seasons, AFTER the Patriots had already won 3 Super Bowls. The “cheating” (lol) occurred in one game (first game of the season) against the Jets. Remember what happened after that? Remember Brady lighting up the league with Moss? LOL, sounds familiar doesn’t it?

    FACTS MATTER”

    WRONG. It was illegal from 2000-2007.

  64. bushwoodcc says: Jan 18, 2016 1:19 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 12:30 PM
    Jimmy Johnson admitted to stealing signals, not illegally filming. Read his quote, its plain as day.
    ________________________________________

    When Jimmy Johnson saw the footage he said “That’s exactly how we used to do it”.

    Don’t you ever get tired of being exposed as a fraud?

  65. factman66 says: Jan 18, 2016 1:26 PM

    Jimmy Johnson never admitted to having Cowboys assistants pose as media members to obtain the footage. The Packers caught a Patriots employee doing that red-handed. You can’t weasle your way out of this one, NE.

  66. letmefeelyourlove says: Jan 18, 2016 1:27 PM

    stealthjunk says:
    Jan 18, 2016 10:01 AM

    Deflated balls are more useful in cold weather. So look at Brady’s stats/losses since the weather turned cold, not when it’s 70 degrees in Foxhole. Your whole argument falls apart at that point.
    ____________________________________

    Every team has a “deflator” working for them when the temperature drops. Her name is Mother Nature. Take a football from a warm locker room onto a cold playing field, and the air pressure drops. It’s not cheating, it’s science.

    So, you’re saying Brady’s stats/losses were worse, not better, when the temperature fell? Guess what? That means a deflated football isn’t more useful in cold weather. You just disproved your own claim about deflated footballs!

    You’re welcome.

  67. YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob says: Jan 18, 2016 1:34 PM

    You have to be doing something right to frustrate so many in these comment sections. Tenth AFC title game. 4 super bowl victories. 6 super bowl appearances. Fifth straight AFC title game. We are spoiled in Patriot nation. So naturally there will be frustrated opposing fans. It’s the persistent lack of true facts that make you all look utterly pathetic. Thanks for verifying the wonderful gift we have in Patriot nation. I pity your shortcomings. I pity you. You bring it on yourselves. You are pathetic.

  68. fireroger says: Jan 18, 2016 1:43 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 12:30 PM
    Jimmy Johnson admitted to stealing signals, not illegally filming. Read his quote, its plain as day.
    =======================
    Allow me to help you out …

    “Oh in a heartbeat, yeah. Yes I did,” Johnson said, before confirming it was done via video.

    “Oh yeah, I did it with video and so did a lot of other teams in the league,” Johnson continued. “Just to make sure that you could study it and take your time, because you’re going to play the other team the second time around. But a lot of coaches did it, this was commonplace.”

  69. fireroger says: Jan 18, 2016 1:46 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 1:26 PM
    Jimmy Johnson never admitted to having Cowboys assistants pose as media members to obtain the footage. The Packers caught a Patriots employee doing that red-handed. You can’t weasle your way out of this one, NE.
    ============
    So you’re saying if he didn’t pose as a media member like when Jimmy Johnson did it this wouldn’t be as big of a problem?

  70. fireroger says: Jan 18, 2016 1:50 PM

    More importantly, if this was a rule as you correctly pointed out previously, how exactly did Jimmy Johnson and the numerous other coaches get away with it for as long as they did? No matter how you slice it, the Patriots infraction was isolated to where they videotaped. Not the act of doing so.

  71. factman66 says: Jan 18, 2016 2:00 PM

    This discussion is now over, Pats fans. The facts, as presented above, proved you were wrong. There’s nothing left to be said. Have a nice day😉

  72. flash1287 says: Jan 18, 2016 2:06 PM

    You know what the best thing is about all the CRYBABIES?

    The team they root for probably isn’t very good.

  73. fireroger says: Jan 18, 2016 2:16 PM

    Factman the discussion was over before you even started it.

  74. rutledge3197 says: Jan 18, 2016 3:34 PM

    During the timeframe of my choice
    My team did this
    My team did that
    My team won this many
    Once again from the timeframe that suits me and my team

  75. joker65 says: Jan 18, 2016 3:52 PM

    ptl2323 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 11:24 AM
    When you play in the worst division in the NFL for the past 15 years I sure hope you make it to that many Conference games. The Pats get a first round bye because they automatically start the season with 6 wins! The Jets, Dolphins and Bills?
    ____

    Yup. Lets blame NE because the other teams stink.

    Steelers/Raven are good, but Cincinnati? They are called the Bungles for a reason and just recently got any good. The North also contains the Browns, the worst team in the league since 2000.

    So Pats get a first round bye because of an easy division, but you infer they aren’t that good. So, if they played the great Steelers and Ravens in the playoffs, wouldn’t they lose all the time to those teams? How has that worked out for the most part?

  76. ptl2323 says: Jan 18, 2016 6:52 PM

    joker65
    Jan 18, 2016, 3:52 PM EST
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    No I think they’re a really good team. However since 2001 they’re 3-3 on the road in the playoffs so yeah playing in a terrible division and getting home field because of the terrible division certainly has its benefits! One in which I’m sure the Steelers/Ravens/Bengals would love to be in!!! Facts are facts Patriot “fans”, Your “team” plays in one of the worst divisions in the NFL!

  77. itsfootballfolks says: Jan 18, 2016 7:05 PM

    So the NFL League Office trolls are out in force I see. A formidable foe you will find are the New England fans.

    NFL lies and protection of PeHGHton will not go unchallenged, trolls.

  78. dexx57 says: Jan 18, 2016 7:20 PM

    For all the people who hate The Patriots, don’t forget they were the biggest underdog in Super Bowl history against the Rams, they have earned every last bit of this success.

  79. j0esixpack says: Jan 18, 2016 7:59 PM

    At some point the “Joe Montana is the GOAT” folks will strop trying to convince everyone that Montana has the advantage because he lost playoff games well BEFORE the Super Bowl

    Um – getting ousted in the playoffs by the Giants 3 or 4 times is NOT something I’d be boasting about if I were a 49ers fan

  80. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Jan 18, 2016 8:10 PM

    ptl2323 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 11:24 AM
    You still have to win the games but I’m pretty sure you put Ravens, Steelers, Bengals in that division and move the Pats to the North they wouldn’t have this same record!
    ————————

    Brady’s career winning percentage against the AFCN is .800, that’s better than they fare against the AFCE

  81. smasonsmith says: Jan 18, 2016 8:14 PM

    WRONG. It was illegal from 2000-2007.
    ====
    No.

    It wasn’t.

    You’re a fool and a liar, who will only be believed by other fools and liars.

  82. smasonsmith says: Jan 18, 2016 8:20 PM

    Brady’s career winning percentage against the AFCN is .800, that’s better than they fare against the AFCE
    ===
    Not to mention that most of those NEP vs AFCN games are either playoff games or games against the prior year’s AFCN winner. NE only got to play the Browns and Bungles (before they got decent) every four years.

  83. patsfiend says: Jan 18, 2016 8:20 PM

    I sure as heck never imagined it rooting for the 80’s and 90’s Pats. Not in a million years. The Giants, Niners, and Cowboys might as well have played in another league, on another planet.

  84. gm19cal says: Jan 18, 2016 8:23 PM

    Let’s face it, Brady is a great quarterback in a weak division and weak conference. They should make 10 AFC championship games . Overall the conference is not as strong top to bottom. I believe Green Bay, Seattle, Carolina and Arizona are better teams than what New England faces . Pittsburgh, Kansas City and Denver are not very good. New England beat Seattle last year but only because of a bone head call on a pass play with a yard to go and 2 timeouts. Can anyone say give it to Lynch? Duh. I think all the patriot fans if they are honest knew they should have lost that one. I did root for New England only because I can’t stand Seattle. Otherwise I choose the NFC teams over AFC.

  85. lanman11 says: Jan 18, 2016 9:24 PM

    rutledge3197 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 10:01 AM
    All those trips to all those AFC title games and yet he still has won 4 ::: the same amount as Bradshaw & Montana who appeared in only 6 championship games and neither ever lost a Super Bowl
    **********************************************************

    That is the difference. Those guys lost in the playoffs more than Brady did so they did not make as many Championship games. They were also pretty much done after that. Brady, at 38, just had one of his best season’s and were it not for the injuries to key offensive players, he would have smashed all records.

  86. lanman11 says: Jan 18, 2016 9:26 PM

    gm19cal says:
    Jan 18, 2016 8:23 PM
    Let’s face it, Brady is a great quarterback in a weak division and weak conference. They should make 10 AFC championship games . Overall the conference is not as strong top to bottom. I believe Green Bay, Seattle, Carolina and Arizona are better teams than what New England faces . Pittsburgh, Kansas City and Denver are not very good. New England beat Seattle last year but only because of a bone head call on a pass play with a yard to go and 2 timeouts. Can anyone say give it to Lynch? Duh. I think all the patriot fans if they are honest knew they should have lost that one. I did root for New England only because I can’t stand Seattle. Otherwise I choose the NFC teams over AFC.
    ********************************************************

    Whatchyew talkin’ bout Willis? 9 of the last 15 Super Bowls have been won by the AFC. Checkity check yo’ self, be fo’ yew wreck yo’ self…

  87. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Jan 18, 2016 9:50 PM

    gm19cal says:
    Jan 18, 2016 8:23 PM
    Let’s face it, Brady is a great quarterback in a weak division and weak conference. They should make 10 AFC championship games . Overall the conference is not as strong top to bottom. I believe Green Bay, Seattle, Carolina and Arizona are better teams than what New England faces .
    ———————————-

    Believe what you will but the facts say different. Not only is the AFCE the #3 division in win percentage over the last 15 years but the Pats have a virtually identical win percentage against AFC and NFC teams. .752 vs the AFC and .756 against the NFC. Their winning % by division for the last 15 years:
    AFCE .779
    AFCN .800
    AFCS .821
    AFCW .607
    NFCE .813
    NFCN .875
    NFCS .750
    NFCW .667

  88. 6superbowls says: Jan 18, 2016 11:47 PM

    “Never imagined” until he learned cheating helps get you there.

  89. gm19cal says: Jan 19, 2016 12:09 AM

    Win percentage means nothing . What is the combined records of the teams they beat 75% of the time? I know it’s not very good against the Giants. Even when they beat everyone else they could t beat the GIANTS. So sorry. Oh yeah they have beat up on the AFC north but those teams are pitiful also . I am not saying AFC has all bad teams. I am saying outside of New England, what teams are elite? When you look at both conferences from best to worse the NFC is better from top to bottom. Yes both conferences have their perennial losers but Cleveland, Tennesee, Miami, San Diego, Houston, Buffalo, Baltimore, Indianapolis. They are brutally bad. I know they have teams like Denver, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Cinncinatti and New York who are fairly good but you have to admit New England has no competition in that conference. They just don’t . If they were in the NFC no way no how would they have 10 championships and all the Super Bowl Appearances. Heck the Giants alone would have kept them from the super bowl on at least 2 occasions. . I believe your patriots rank around 4th best team in football . Best in the AFC. That’s why they get to super bowl so much. I would say spygate was worse than deflategate. I can’t see complaining about footballs when ur beat by so much except if it is a rule . Belechek has a long list of improprieties. One has to have concerns about that.

  90. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Jan 19, 2016 12:15 PM

    gm19cal says:
    Jan 19, 2016 12:09 AM
    Win percentage means nothing . What is the combined records of the teams they beat 75% of the time? I know it’s not very good against the Giants. Even when they beat everyone else they could t beat the GIANTS. So sorry. Oh yeah they have beat up on the AFC north but those teams are pitiful also .
    ————————-

    The discussion pertains to excellence over time and over time the only barometer is the numbers. Sad that you choose to move the goal posts when they fail you. The AFCN is the winningest division in pro football over the last decade yet for the purposes of your argument you have decided they are “pitiful.”
    With the exception of whatever division the AFCE draws Brady, by virtue of NE’s record, annually faced the division winner of the other AFC divisions (except for ’09) not their dregs. Don’t care for percentages? That’s too bad because it gets worse when avg wins per division is the factor. Here’s what each division has averaged per teams in wins per season over the last 10 years.
    AFCN— 8.35 wins per team
    NFCE — 8.33 wins per team
    AFCE — 8.2 wins per team
    AFCS — 8 wins per team
    NFCS — 7.95 wins per team
    NFCN — 7.95 wins per team
    AFCW — 7.68 wins per team
    NFCW — 7.43 wins per team

    So in addition to the ‘inferior’ AFC winning 9 of the 15 SB’s since Brady became a starter in the past decade 3 of the 4 worst divisions in football have resided in the NFC. The AFC has only one division with a losing record in the last 10 years. The NFC has 3. Since every division and conference is inherently .500 against itself that differential could only have come at the hands of the AFC.

    Brady’s regular season career record against the Giants is 3-1, one could use that as a basis for saying had they played in the same division the Giants mightn’t have made the playoffs to win their last 2 SB’s. Please come back with facts versus opinions

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