LB Brandon Marshall on Gronk: “He pushes off”

AP

The 17th meeting between Tom Brady and Peyton Manning already has become the focal point of the AFC title game. But there will be plenty of other angles worth pursuing, especially since it’s highly unlikely that Brady and Manning will be on the field at the same time.

Broncos linebacker Brandon Marshall and Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski will be on the field at the same time. And Marshall addressed on Monday’s PFT Live the question of why it’s so hard to cover Gronkowski.

“I say ’cause he pushes off,” Marshall said. “I mean, he pushes off and he gets away with it about 98 percent of the time.”

Patriots fans would say Gronkowski doesn’t get away with it at all, given the amount of times that he has been flagged for it this year. But being flagged for it multiple times doesn’t mean he hasn’t done it even more than that.

Marshall also praised Gronkowski’s skills, unrelated to his ability to commit pass interference.

“I think he’s a great tight end,” Marshall said. “He’s big, he’s fast. He’s faster than what you would think. And he has great hands.”

Gronkowski also likely has a long enough memory to recall that, the last time he played the Broncos in Denver, they injured his knee by going low to hit him. That could make Gronkowski a lot motivated than talk of pushing off.

185 responses to “LB Brandon Marshall on Gronk: “He pushes off”

  1. Gronk does nothing more than any other receiving TE already does. He’s just so big and gets the ball so much that he gets more attention and called for a lot more. A non-story.

  2. Patriots VS Broncos and NFL Office. Should be fun to watch. Why did Seattle vs. Minnesota change balls during the second half of their game. Come clean Roger PSI levels

  3. freddypatsfan says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:34 PM
    So does every reciever ever, gronk just gets called for it
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    I guarantee you Mike Evans gets called for it more.

  4. Here we go, A whole week of this BS.

    Brandon; quit your crying, you sound like all of the PFT NE haters that can’t see straight cause there eyes are so full of tears.

  5. He pushes off because he is held on every single play. They let the defwnders maul Gronk because he is so huge and fast. The Broncos are such cry babys.

  6. bucrightoff says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:37 PM
    freddypatsfan says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:34 PM
    So does every reciever ever, gronk just gets called for it
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    I guarantee you Mike Evans gets called for it more.

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    they are tied but nice try

  7. Gronk does push off almost every time. So does Edleman. Not to mention all of the illegal pick plays they run. OPI literally could be called on the Patriots every time they run a pass play.
    Also, watch the Patriots on those WR screens, 90% of the time a Patriots player is engaged before the ball arrives.
    The NFL has been giving the Patriots sweetheart calls for 15 years, its about time the refs gave the other team a fair game.

  8. Remember when the Patriot, Chung just touched the Denver player on the shoulder and got a very crucial penalty that led to Denver winning, also a couple other crucial fluke penalties called on the Patriots. Why didn’t Brandon Marshall comment on that. No, he got to spread lies about Gronk to try and get an edge with the REFS. PATHETIC dope.

  9. Crying already?? Both teams get away with stuff. New England had numerous illegal contact penalties that were left on the field saturday. Denver had lots of hands to the face that weren’t called sunday.
    Who cares, just play.

  10. The by GOD patsies the darlings of the NFL NEVER get called on their cheating!!! Broncos just going to have to out score them & continue to knock Brady around ALL GAME LONG & the cry baby will fold!!!

  11. I have seen only one referee call the penalty on him this year, and Brady acted like he was having a heart attack.

    YES, HE ILLEGALLY PUSHES OFF ON EVERY ROUTE BUT NO ONE THROWS A FLAG.

    If the defender did to him what he does to CB’s, they would get a flag every time.

  12. dirtycallahan says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:41 PM
    Psst, they run pick plays too.

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    Good Lord, every team in the NFL runs pick plays. In fact, the Butler pick in the SB was a freaking pick play!

  13. We have heard Pats fans whining since the Broncos beat the PATS in OT about their teams injuries as if no other team in the NFL has injuries just the Patriots. What that whining really amounts too it is unfair that the Broncos have better depth than the Patriots do. Broncos had several injuries in that game as well. We even beat the Pats with a backup QB that had 2 career starts (at that point)! When the Broncos beat a much healthier Pats team this Sunday, the Pats are going to have to search much harder for excuses to explain the game away. I already see one developing. It looks like the Pats fans are already trying to develop the “woe is me the whole NFL is against us” defense. Good thing I am adept at reading between the lines. The message between the lines is that THEY ARE SCARED!

  14. darthbelichick07 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:35 PM

    Peyton Manning retirement party — Sunday 1/24.

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    Peyton Manning retirement party — Sunday 2/7

    Fixed that for you.

  15. So that’s the excuse you are going to use when you can’t cover him.

    You want to beat the Broncos D go at Chis Harris JR and the LB’s, they can’t cover to save there lives.

  16. I’m sure that Roger Goofball is already telling the refs to call anything remote to PI against Gronk. But thanks Brandon, sounds like Denver is already making excuses.

  17. When he does push off it’s because defenders contact him way downfield. In all the games these playoffs the refs have let the players play and the games have been better for it.

  18. dirtycallahan says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:41 PM
    Psst, they run pick plays too.

    -have you seen the Broncos offense since manning got there? They run by far the most pick plays in the league. Look at the two pt conversion to Thomas from yesterday. Also the pick play is legal if executed properly hence why every team uses them.

  19. What’s a Peyton Manning lead team supposed to do with themselves in the post season besides cry to the league that the Patriots play physical football?

    Keep crying. It bought the Colts a Super Bowl once.

  20. darthbelichick07 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:35 PM

    Peyton Manning retirement party — Sunday 1/24.
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    I remember the last time you guys threw a retirement party for Ray Lewis. How’d that go ?

  21. LB Brandon Marshall on Gronk: “He pushes off”

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    I noticed that too. He does it often, with most teams they play.

    But then, the refs didn’t call the late hit when Alex Smith got hit and dragged down out of bounds, or the pass interference in the end zone when Kansas City may have scored, or a roughing the passer on another play, or the face masking call on yet another play.

    4 blatant penalties that may have made a difference that went unnoticed by the refs.

    And yes, the numerous push-offs by Gronk.

    I wonder why the Pat*riots get away with so many penalties, so often.

  22. Sure Gronk pushes off. Who doesn’t? Defenders grab too. Jerry Rice was probably the best ever at pushing off. No big deal. There’s really a lot of pushing and shoving going on by all players. It’s football!

  23. infectorman says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:40 PM
    Here we go, A whole week of this BS.

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    I know right……just play the game……sheesh!!!

  24. What do you expect he’s gonna say…most of the time every position that is responsible for defending passes claims the receiver pushed off, and mostly every receiver claims that they were interfered with with they don’t catch it…lol

  25. dbfan4ever says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:47 PM
    We have heard Pats fans whining since the Broncos beat the PATS in OT about their teams injuries as if no other team in the NFL has injuries just the Patriots. What that whining really amounts too it is unfair that the Broncos have better depth than the Patriots do. Broncos had several injuries in that game as well. We even beat the Pats with a backup QB that had 2 career starts (at that point)! When the Broncos beat a much healthier Pats team this Sunday, the Pats are going to have to search much harder for excuses to explain the game away. I already see one developing. It looks like the Pats fans are already trying to develop the “woe is me the whole NFL is against us” defense. Good thing I am adept at reading between the lines. The message between the lines is that THEY ARE SCARED!

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    No team in the league has ever been scared of the Broncos. Believe me. Thats why no one ever counts on them to win it all unless they cheat the salary cap again.

  26. New York / L.A. Values have taken over the NFL & the NFL officiating. If you’re one of the mindless masses of the North East or West Coast…then you LUV the NFL these days. They ignore Gronk’s offensive penalties because it is marketable…not because it’s legal within the rules. Ratings have become more important than accuracy or fairness.

  27. Gronk has been cheating since High School, like when his “family” “moved” so he could play football at an elite school. He’s a Patriot through and through.

  28. to all the denver fans who are bashing the pats and brady

    first off your qb dives to the ground when an imaginary player is near him, and he gets away with a call by getting up again

    second tom brady has three touchdown passes in mile high stadium this year

    peyton manning has one touchdown in mile high stadium this year.

    sadly brady only played one game their this year unlike your QB

    you beat the pats who didnt have edelman and amendola and gronk didnt finish the game and you needed overtime to do it and the worst reffing ever

    you better hope gronk gets a lot of penalties cause i dont think the refs can get away with whistling plays dead while the ball is in the air, AGAIN

    enough with the cheating talk, your qb takes HGH and still cant throw a ball 40 yards and your team is legendary at cheating the cap

    and as for marshall he know they are the worst team and is putting this comment out there to get ref help, these are the comments of someone scared, notice you wont hear that talk coming from the pats

  29. In that first Denver game, they threw a few flags on situations where Gronk didn’t do anything, so I guess the Broncos are trying to grease the skids in advance of this Sunday’s expected beatdown.

  30. Sorry, but Bronco fans can’t complain about cheating… their salary cap “cheating” led to two Super Bowls… And, McDaniels got caught video taping as Denver HC…

    The RB and WR’s on that team are SOFT, and the defense is overrated… The Pats will stomp them.

  31. There’s a difference between hand checking and pushing off. Gronk does a whole lot of the former, but also his fair share of the latter (probably more so than anyone in the league). I’d say he gets called for the latter at a fairly good clip when he does. The former is not a penalty.

  32. Not sure how much more proof you delusional Patriots fans need… the rules of the NFL simply don’t apply to your team. Gronk pushes off A LOT more than he gets penalized for, he even admits that “I’m not changing” but yet the league does nothing about it. He also spikes the ball after every TD, yet doesn’t get fined. Technically that’s using the ball as a prop, right? Right??

    You know I’m right. GO DENVER!!

  33. Gronk has been cheating since High School, like when his “family” “moved” so he could play football at an elite school. He’s a Patriot through and through.
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    hahahah – this is rich. Should he have given up a year of eligibility in high school because his family moved? That’s your basis for his cheating? I can’t stop laughing

  34. factman66 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:42 PM

    Gronk does push off almost every time. So does Edleman. Not to mention all of the illegal pick plays they run. OPI literally could be called on the Patriots every time they run a pass play.
    Also, watch the Patriots on those WR screens, 90% of the time a Patriots player is engaged before the ball arrives.
    The NFL has been giving the Patriots sweetheart calls for 15 years, its about time the refs gave the other team a fair game.
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    Right. This past year has proven that the NFL LOVES the Pats and their players. Have you been living in a cave since last AFC championship game? Check the court docket.

  35. His entire family didn’t move, he moved out of state to play football at a public High School. He was even ruled ineligible to play by the governing body for awhile.

  36. milehipigskin says:
    Jan 18, 2016 4:17 PM

    Gronk does push off almost every time. So does Edleman. Not to mention all of the illegal pick plays they run. OPI literally could be called on the Patriots every time they run a pass play.
    Also, watch the Patriots on those WR screens, 90% of the time a Patriots player is engaged before the ball arrives.
    The NFL has been giving the Patriots sweetheart calls for 15 years, its about time the refs gave the other team a fair game.
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    Hey, I know weed is legal out there, but you gotta put the pipe down once in a while…

  37. Look at his 1st TD against KC last week. He created space by extending both arms to keep the DB away. It was clear OPI, but it’s also the Pats, they’ve never done anything illegal.

  38. unfortunately – when people hear “brandon marshall” – nobody is thinking of this guy – so what level of credibility does he have here? I’m sayin’ NONE…

  39. Never thought I would say this, but I agree with what this Broncos player is saying. Gronk pushed off on the 1st td of the game vs. the Chiefs. Was a flag thrown, No. It is BS.

  40. This is a page out of the Ravens whining playbook.

    Whine, cry, scream and complain about the other team before the game in hopes that the refs call an extra penalty or 2.

    Well last year’s whining champions the Indianapolis Laughingstock didn’t even make the playoffs, nor did the former whining champions the Ravens.

    How’d all the whining work out for those losers ?

  41. contender21open says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:53 PM

    LB Brandon Marshall on Gronk: “He pushes off”

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    I noticed that too. He does it often, with most teams they play.

    But then, the refs didn’t call the late hit when Alex Smith got hit and dragged down out of bounds, or the pass interference in the end zone when Kansas City may have scored, or a roughing the passer on another play, or the face masking call on yet another play.

    4 blatant penalties that may have made a difference that went unnoticed by the refs.

    And yes, the numerous push-offs by Gronk.

    I wonder why the Pat*riots get away with so many penalties, so often.

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    Sounds to me like you have a problem with the league and referees. Its their job to throw the penalty flag when this happens.

    So, maybe you think the league is fixed somehow?

  42. Boy…when the Pats played K.C. All the posts were pleasantry’s followed by good luck from both sides…1 day after finding Denver will be our next opponent….nothing but trash talk…again…try and stay classy Denver fans…because believe it or not..Pats fans can “play nice” on these comment boards…or dish it out with the best of them

  43. jbaxt says:
    Jan 18, 2016 4:26 PM
    Look at his 1st TD against KC last week. He created space by extending both arms to keep the DB away.
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    Exactly. It was pretty easy to see on replay.

    I think Gronk’s theory on OPI is the same as the Seahawks DBs on DPI. They figure they’ll win more of those battles than they lose so it’s worth the risk.

    Just don’t try to tell us that it’s all lies and he doesn’t do it. Of course he does…

  44. Tell your buddy talib to stop with the pass interference (oh, they don’t get called either?). It’s a wash.

  45. factman66 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 4:09 PM
    Gronk has been cheating since High School, like when his “family” “moved” so he could play football at an elite school. He’s a Patriot through and through
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    Hahahaha. I think BB helped him find a new house because he knew he was going to be a Patriot someday…..BB really is the GOAT! He can see the future!!!!

  46. Marshall is saying: wah! wah! wah!

    Shut up you big baby. Maybe if you’d stop dropping passes one of your teams would make the playoffs.

  47. The story doesn’t mention that Gronk gets double covered and held on every play, but that is much closer to the truth than “He pushes off”. I guess all you guys moaning about him would never want him on your team. Integrity of the game and all that.

  48. I expect this kind of stupidity from Denver
    That’s what you do when you become desperate and know you are going to lose
    You stRt making excuses to soften the blow
    You hope your fans buy into it so they don’t blame you for being inept
    I guess that’s what happens after you become a perennial loser like the Broncos have become since Elway finally won

    When was that?
    Twenty years ago?

  49. Yeah and you hold on every play. Let men get back to you with the contact info for the flag league.

    Seriously, the excuses are flowing down the mountains already? You gonna spend the whole week working the refs? Certainly looks like the fix is in but the Pats won anyway. Steelers weren’t going to be allowed to win. No way Goodell is going to Foxboro.

    But I want to know why the refs forgot the freakin balls and gauges in their hotel? Why is this not an ESPN topic! Cmon PFT tell everyone!

  50. Good Luck Peyton, Broncos and Bronco Fans!!! From what I have heard and read over the past 2 days, there are more and more other fan bases totally cheering for you guys next Saturday! Whether people believe the Pats are cheaters or not, they are sick of the totally obnoxious, self-righteous windbags!!! So, you’ve got a lot of people rooting for you!!!

  51. “I have seen only one referee call the penalty on him this year”

    Then I guess you don’t watch a lot of Patriots games, huh? The fact is, Gronk has been called for offensive interference six times this season, which is more than 30 pf the 31 other teams in the league.

    Perhaps in the future you should do a little research before you post, in order to not make a fool of yourself and show how little you know about football.

  52. The Pats are going to have to beat the Mules and the Zebra’s too, and they will.

    That’s a joke, right? The Patriots get more favorable calls than any team in the league. All you have to do is look at Brady wrong and it’s a penalty.

  53. And BTW, watch the Broncos sometime and watch how many pick plays they run. Also watch their receivers on screen plays. They routinely block downfield before the ball is thrown, which is supposed to be OPI but never gets flagged on them.

    Not to mention the fact that you could flag their offensive line for holding about 20 times a game if you wanted, yet they rarely get flagged.

    The Broncos have a nerve complaining about officiating, considering the only reason they have a home AFCC games is that the zebras blatantly bagged the game for them the first time these teams met.

  54. Here we go with the HGH talk. This stroy doesn’t even hace anything to do with Manning. P*ties keep trying to deflect attention from their cheating franchise. Oh yeah, add a drug abusing PCP using edge rusher to that. P*tsies are cheaters, so why are we shocked Gr*nk*wski pushes off? And further more, who cares? Br*dy and the P*tsies will be getting that Denver D on Sunday.

    PS find a new term. “Haters” makes you sound like the moron you are.

  55. He absolutely pushed off on the 1st TD against KC.
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    He was being held more than 5 beyond the LOS before and while the ball was in the air, too.

    Could have been IC, DH, DPI, OPI, or nothing, and since it’s the playoffs, it was nothing. Same thing on the Edelman incompletion in the 3rd (?) quarter.

  56. This guy holds on every play, contact way past 5 yards and cant cover at all. he is looking for an edge hoping the refs help him like last time, what a chump. shut up and play the game cry baby youre a pro…

  57. Going low to hit him? Give me a break. You are obviously a Patriots fan. Stop writing crap about the Broncos. He did not hit him low. If they would have went high then he would have been fined and suspended. Just stop

  58. coloradical420 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 5:13 PM
    Here we go with the HGH talk. This stroy doesn’t even hace anything to do with Manning. P*ties keep trying to deflect attention from their cheating franchise. Oh yeah, add a drug abusing PCP using edge rusher to that. P*tsies are cheaters, so why are we shocked Gr*nk*wski pushes off? And further more, who cares? Br*dy and the P*tsies will be getting that Denver D on Sunday.

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    Nothing more ironic than Broncos fans calling out other teams for cheating.

  59. joetoronto says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:35 PM
    The Pats are going to have to beat the Mules and the Zebra’s too, and they will.
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    I can’t think of a single game in the past 15 years when the Patriots had to beat the zebras.

  60. meh, the greatest team of this millennium left with three teams that haven’t won anything since John Kennedy jr. was in pilot school.

    I get it, folks are tired of NE. Well if your team beats them I say well done, good for you. If your team is one of the other 28 I say good for you too. If your team loses and you start crying like a bitch it is music to my ears-a song that has been a hit for some time now.

    Go Patriots!
    Good luck to the 31

  61. Broncos are giving the dolts and rat nirds a run for their money with all their whining.

    We all know you guys know deep down that your organization is a joke that only few count on. 😊

  62. He does push off. So do other receivers. However, other receivers don’t have to fight off LBs/DBs that are allowed to grab him and hug him, push him and whatever they can to stop him from being able to catch the ball.

    I’ve watched Cromartie try to drag him down he was holding him so bad… and not get called.

    I watched Luke Keuchley bear hug him while the ball as in air… and not get called.

    Every defender grabs him at the stem of his route. Every single one. Or they leave him wide open.

    Do you know what denver will do? grab him. and that’s why he pushes off.

  63. Della Street says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:47 PM
    dirtycallahan says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:41 PM
    Psst, they run pick plays too.

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    Good Lord, every team in the NFL runs pick plays. In fact, the Butler pick in the SB was a freaking pick play!

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    Yep. Next thing you know, they’ll be complaining about the Pats using plays that “deceive” the defense. Because deception is vile trickery and unholy sorcery.

  64. “That’s a joke, right? The Patriots get more favorable calls than any team in the league. All you have to do is look at Brady wrong and it’s a penalty.”

    No its not a joke. The Pats “get all the calls” is just another Pats haters myth you people whine and cry about.

    They get just as many crap calls against them and non-calls for penalties the other teams commit as any other team.

    The difference is the Pats play well, have better fundamentals than most other teams and overcome them.

    And just for fun I’ll give you an example that goes back a few years to the AFC Championship game. Pats got way up early, Manning leading the Colts on a furious comeback in the final seconds.

    Manning throws a 50 yard or so bomb down the sideline to a receiver covered by Ellis Hobbs. Hobbs on the replay is clearly shown not making contact. The refs call “face guarding” on him.

    The only problem ? Face guarding had been removed from the penalty list 2 years prior. The was no such thing as face guarding at that point, only PI and Hobbs made no contact. Indy went on to score and win the game handed to them by the refs.

    Which by the way cost them another trip to the Super Bowl. And you know why you don’t hear much about this ? Because the Patriots staff and players never cry and whine about things like this.

    Meanwhile people like you maintain total double standards, ignore the numerous bad calls the Pats suffer through because they don’t whine about them like the Ravens and other teams do.

  65. coloradical420 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 5:13 PM
    Here we go with the HGH talk. This stroy doesn’t even hace anything to do with Manning. P*ties keep trying to deflect attention from their cheating franchise. Oh yeah, add a drug abusing PCP using edge rusher to that. P*tsies are cheaters, so why are we shocked Gr*nk*wski pushes off? And further more, who cares? Br*dy and the P*tsies will be getting that Denver D on Sunday.
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    You sound really defensive about Manning’s HGH use.

  66. It’s not enough that Belichick and Brady are already permanent residents in their heads. Now the Broncos need to make room for Gronk as well? They’re going to run out of space!

  67. coloradical420 says:

    Here we go with the HGH talk. This stroy doesn’t even hace anything to do with Manning. P*ties keep trying to deflect attention from their cheating franchise. Oh yeah, add a drug abusing PCP using edge rusher to that. P*tsies are cheaters, so why are we shocked Gr*nk*wski pushes off? And further more, who cares? Br*dy and the P*tsies will be getting that Denver D on Sunday.

    PS find a new term. “Haters” makes you sound like the moron you are.

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    I have seen very little talk about Peyton Mannings, eh hem, wife ordering a case of HGH from Patriot fans or the media. A few mentions, but I have seen a lot of accusations against the Patriots that have been proven false using science and actual facts.

    Please let me know a more accurate term for people, who spew factless accusations, over and over. Maybe a better term would be “Slanderers”?

    Now can you ask Mr. Goodell to own up to his mistake and give the Patriots their picks back? We’d certainly appreciate it.

    See you Sunday.

  68. milehipigskin says:
    Jan 18, 2016 4:17 PM
    factman66 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:42 PM

    Gronk does push off almost every time. So does Edleman. Not to mention all of the illegal pick plays they run. OPI literally could be called on the Patriots every time they run a pass play.
    Also, watch the Patriots on those WR screens, 90% of the time a Patriots player is engaged before the ball arrives.
    The NFL has been giving the Patriots sweetheart calls for 15 years, its about time the refs gave the other team a fair game.
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    go back and watch the game from 11/29

  69. Ex-Jet #1, Bart Scott, picked KC
    Jet #1, Marshall, picks KC
    Ex-KC, Gonzales, picks KC

    Cowher picks NE
    Boomer picks NE

    Come on, folks. See a pattern here?

    NE has not lost a home game against an AFC foe in, what, twenty+ games? Edelman back, and you pick KC?

  70. I want a good game… I dont care if manning used HGH, I dont want him going out on a stretcher like the classless kc fans said of brady.. He is good and paid his dues.. His receivers drops made him look bad, I dont care about deflate gate, cap gate spy gate or slime gate or that the Seatle vikes games balls were at 9 psi at the half and had to be changed out… dont care that don shula was a drug dealer in the 70s and jerry rice made montana look good with stick um, dont care that the jets and steelers coaches trip opposing players on the sidelines or the panthers warm up balls or the jets tamper with Revis and the kicking ball..dont care that seatle had 9 players out with PEDS. They all cheat, So knock off the trash and let the best team win… We dont have anything to do with it.. Might as well just watch a good game..Go Pats…

  71. If anyone wants to whine about Gronk pushing off then whine about him getting grabbed too because they go hand in hand. In fact, most of his push offs are from him trying to break a grab on him.

    Also a lot of this goes on every play by all receivers and DBs (some refer to this as ‘playing football’) but a little push from most recievers is like a little push while from Gronk it’s like getting hit by a truck.


  72. “I say ’cause he pushes off,” Marshall said. “I mean, he pushes off and he gets away with it about 98 percent of the time.”…

    I say Brandon Marshall lies 100% of the time.

  73. daytontriangles says:
    Jan 18, 2016 5:38 PM
    It’s not enough that Belichick and Brady are already permanent residents in their heads. Now the Broncos need to make room for Gronk as well? They’re going to run out of space
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    I assume you mean in their heads, like, positive memories…since they beat them for home field advantage, and beat them the last time they met in the playoffs.

  74. Funny how you pats fans are bashing BM, you’re only doing it because he’s tell the truth. Stop pretending like y’all have the perfect team with perfect fans, no wonder the patriots get so much hate

  75. Marshall trying to stir the pot to try to persuade the refs prior to extra scrutinize Gronks play do anything ticky tacky will be called…. What a female dog.

  76. Fans of the cheaters are so funny. When ever they get caught cheating (again) or even if they’re simply accused of doing something illegal fans of the hoodie always go to their trusted retort of “well everyone else does it too.”
    Just like they did when they were busted for spying and deflating balls.
    Oh wait, they didn’t cheat, the NFL normally takes away first round picks (twice) because a team did nothing wrong.
    And don’t forget all you fans of male uggs, Brady was never found innocent. The judge that kraft paid off simply said his suspension wasn’t warrented bc of a loophole in the CBA.
    * * * *
    Zero rings without cheating.

  77. coloradical420 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 5:13 PM

    Here we go with the HGH talk. This stroy doesn’t even hace anything to do with Manning. P*ties keep trying to deflect attention from their cheating franchise. Oh yeah, add a drug abusing PCP using edge rusher to that. P*tsies are cheaters, so why are we shocked Gr*nk*wski pushes off? And further more, who cares? Br*dy and the P*tsies will be getting that Denver D on Sunday.

    PS find a new term. “Haters” makes you sound like the moron you are.
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    Fire up another big ole fatty there dope, pun intended. Life is so much better I’m sure in that alternate dimension your brain functions in. We’ll stick to reality.

  78. “Not to mention all of the illegal pick plays they run.”

    Ah another pick play parrot.

    You have no concept of what you’re talking about.

    A “pick play” is basically a receiver hitting a DB or LB that’s covering a different receiver before the ball is thrown. You can hit the guy covering you within 5 yards of the LOS but not a player covering a different receiver.

    What you’re calling “pick plays” are actually crossing routes, also called “rub routes”, totally legal and every team uses them regularly. You can run across the field and “rub” another DB off a different receiver as long as you don’t hit them, its legal.

  79. Let’s be clear: He is baiting the refs. Like all defenders, Marshall initiates contact and then subtely pushes off so as not to be called for illegal contact. He gets away with it 98% of the time. He’s crying the blues because he thinks his opponent should not have that same capability, because if he does, he probably is unable to cover him.

    As usual, the Broncos are babies, and trying to manipulate refs and public opinion.

    Why do we NEVER hear this kind of talk from the Patriots about the opponent? Just another reason I think every red blooded American should be rooting for the Patriots.

  80. The refs in Denver might as well wear orange & blue striped uniforms with Bronco logos on their hats…..

  81. Picks, rubs, whatever you want to call it is irrelevant. I dare Julian Edleman to create separation due to superior route running, and not having a teammate make it for him. The fact is, the Pats wrs aren’t talented enough to beat dbs, that’s why the “rub” is a staple of their offense. Edleman can’t get open on his own ability and that’s a fact, Jack.

  82. To the black-hearted Evil Emperor Goodell:

    “The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end…..Highness.”

    -Tom “Gladiator” Brady…
    as he bows his head, turns his back on the Evil Emperor, while the Emperor’s minions step back out of Tom’s way in a sign of respect.

  83. “Here we go with the HGH talk. This stroy doesn’t even hace anything to do with Manning”

    Yeah right. If Giselle had received regular shipments of HGH after Tom had just had 4 surgeries on his neck and could barely walk, much less throw, there would be over 1000 posts on every article about it screaming for him to be lynched and then his dead body drawn and quartered for good measure.

    The guy came back from those 4 neck surgeries to throw what 50 TDs the next season ? It was HGH. Manning used it in copious amounts.

    But keep waving the double standard flag around. All it does in invalidate any complaints you might have about the Pats or Brady.

  84. See a lot of HGH talk. Let’s be for real here. What’s more likely, Chandler Jones on PCP or Manning on HGH? Ask anyone except the police chief that also runs security for the stadium.

  85. Trying to work the refs a week before the game. Not a bad idea.

    Not sure it will be enough.

    It does show me they’re pretty worried.

  86. Mashall crying already, Manning on HGH let’s see how far the investigation goes on this one.
    Be a man, play the game. Like his guys don’t push off or run pick plays.
    It’s the NFL. Sound l8ke Mashall thinks they might lose so he has to start complaining.
    What a dope.
    It’s a privilege to see these two Quarterbacks playing again for the title.
    But Archie Manning is trying his best to buy Payton his second ring, seems New Orlean and Seattle imbarassed him in his last two SB games.

  87. Pats wrs aren’t talented enough to beat dbs, that’s why the “rub” is a staple of their offense

    Yeah, no other team is doing it.

  88. Wow, I remember a time when football was played by and watched by men. In this new pc(politically correct) and pc(personal computer) world it has become embarrassing. Listen to yourselves, you sound like whiny little girls, both Pats bashers and Pats fans.

  89. broncosnative says:
    Jan 18, 2016 6:10 PM

    Funny how you pats fans are bashing BM, you’re only doing it because he’s tell the truth. Stop pretending like y’all have the perfect team with perfect fans, no wonder the patriots get so much hate
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    Funny is using a term like “98% of the time Gronkowski gets away with pushing off.”

    just think about that for a second. Think of the amount of pass plays necessary to make this a truthful statement. Think about how many times he has received a call for pushing off and then simply multiply it by 49 and that is how many times Marshall thinks he gets away with it. Brandon Marshall is a whining bitch who is also a stupid phuck and frankly that is a truthful statement that can’t be denied.

  90. I was gonna wait until Sunday to let my full blown hatred of the Broncos re-emerge.

    Well no sense putting off until tomorrow what can be done today.

  91. Spillertime: don’t they teach science in Denver? Or did you sleep through the class on Boyles Law ? Or don’t the laws of Physics apply in Denver ? Middle school science proves there was no tampering!
    Guess you missed the NFL telling Judge Berman they had NO Evidence against Tom!
    There is more evidence against Manning receiving HGH to his home than there ever was against Tom.
    Don’t let the facts get in the way of your posting!

  92. Gronk has been cheating since High School, like when his “family” “moved” so he could play football at an elite school

    There are a couple of high school football powerhouses in central Pa where this has been going on for decades.

    Right or wrong, it ain’t new.

  93. factman66 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:42 PM

    Gronk does push off almost every time. So does Edleman. Not to mention all of the illegal pick plays they run. OPI literally could be called on the Patriots every time they run a pass play.
    Also, watch the Patriots on those WR screens, 90% of the time a Patriots player is engaged before the ball arrives.
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    Umm no. Edelman doesn’t push off. And the screens? Nobody is downfield blocking. I watch the film too, just not with biased eyes.

  94. Like the angle…doubtful, if it will work. Refs don’t like to be coached by players. If anything, they will ignore Gronk if he does push off.
    Part of the problem, is the dude covering him has to drape a monster. Really hard to do when the Gronk is running at full tilt. Then, you have put up with dinner plate hands smacking you when he wants to release. With his arm span, your toast.
    Like the gadget run Gronk employed, shedding corner. Also, the two pylon throws were pretty much indefensible.
    You put two on Gronk, you leave man on man for everyone else. That is where Edelman comes in…one guy is easy to shake. If Lafell could get his groove on…
    The teams that beat NE are gritty teams…ones that swarm. Have to get Brady rattled. Tough to do nowadays, with his two best receivers back in the fold.

  95. Yeah, yeah, there always has to be some excuse for the Patriots beating others teams. It couldn’t be that they have the greatest coach and greatest quarterback of all time, and a tight end on his way to being the greatest tight end of all time, and a defense filled with first and second picks….no, it has to be that they break the rules, etc. Some people just can’t face reality.

  96. factman66 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 6:59 PM

    Picks, rubs, whatever you want to call it is irrelevant. I dare Julian Edleman to create separation due to superior route running, and not having a teammate make it for him. The fact is, the Pats wrs aren’t talented enough to beat dbs, that’s why the “rub” is a staple of their offense. Edleman can’t get open on his own ability and that’s a fact, Jack.
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    Suggest you watch a replay of his Super Bowl TD. He got open on his own.

  97. Last week the Pats played the fake injury card (Brady, Zonk and others). This week it’s the refs favor Denver card. Now that’s HOT! NFL has known for years that Tammy always gets the call her way!! It’s called “Tammy’s Rules.”

  98. I believe it was Marshall that ran into Gronk in the first game in an attempt to slow him down, and Gronk defended himself from the impact by raising his arms. As le cut away from Marshall he extended his arms, like most do, and he was flagged. Marshall had pulled his arms down intentionally, looking for the flag. My guess was he was already lobbying for the penalty in that game and it was a setup. These are things you do when you know you can;t compete straight up.

    It’s The Bronco Way.

  99. Regarding the Refs bias for the Cheats, you ever watch a NE game? Brady is the only player on the field the Refs help up from the turf. Amazing. Wonder what Tom gives them for Christmas?

  100. “Picks, rubs, whatever you want to call it is irrelevant.”

    Of course its not irrelevant. One is illegal and draws a flag, the other is a staple of routes in every single NFL offense.

    Poor liarman. Fins have been irrelevant for so long the only thing you have to enjoy with the NFL is crying about the Pats and other teams you don’t like.

    Especially since you know deep inside that as long as your current awful ownership has the team you will not be in the playoffs again, quite possibly in your lifetime.

  101. Jan 18, 2016 4:21 PM

    His entire family didn’t move, he moved out of state to play football at a public High School. He was even ruled ineligible to play by the governing body for awhile.
    ________________________________
    Yep, but they appealed and the original unfair decision was easily overturned-rare for the state of PA. They simply proved that the Gronkowskis owned several businesses in the area long before the move and they were well within their rights as citizens of our country to move to an apartment and enroll in a public HS in the area. He wanted to play there and to go to school there. He had every right to do so.

    Tell us all how you are a Giants fan again LOL

  102. The loss in Denver was so crucial, now there will be no hotel raids, no bugged lockerrooms, no equipment funny business, no “headset malfunctions”, no taping, no 3 a.m. fire alarms, no drones, nothing to aid the Patriots. The Grand Wizard of Cheating must be absolutely beside himself. He can only hope that Gronk gets away with his patented push-off all game. Of course, Manning will probably be so jacked on HGH that a third eye will sprout out of his tremendous forehead.
    Welcome to the Lack of Integrity Bowl 2016!

  103. factman66 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 3:42 PM
    Gronk does push off almost every time. So does Edleman. Not to mention all of the illegal pick plays they run. OPI literally could be called on the Patriots every time they run a pass play.
    Also, watch the Patriots on those WR screens, 90% of the time a Patriots player is engaged before the ball arrives.
    The NFL has been giving the Patriots sweetheart calls for 15 years, its about time the refs gave the other team a fair game
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    And the Oscar for greatest crybaby performance for 2015 goes to… fartman66!

    You’ll be supplied with 2007 and 2011 Super Bowl DVD’s so you can watch your team’s greatest moments Sunday at 3pm ET so you won’t have to watch the great Tom Brady and Bill Belichick play in their 10th AFC Conference Championship game.

  104. fagman66 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 8:38 PM
    The defensive posturing and name calling by Pats fans shows that they are feeling a bit exposed. NE is paralyzed by reality.

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    Whatever

  105. deacon85 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 8:00 PM
    Yeah, yeah, there always has to be some excuse for the Patriots beating others teams.
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    Really? Really. Let’s jump in Doc Brown’s Delorean and take a trip back to Nov 30 and the reaction from the Patriots and their fans after Denver beat NE. It was all excuses. “The refs…” (even though Denver had more penalties that game) “…injuries” (even though Denver was missing players who are actually Pro Bowlers – Ward, Ware, Vasquez, Clady).

    NE lost that game because they gave up a season high 179 yards rushing. They lost that game because they were 2-13 on 3rd Down. They lost that game because they didn’t make plays when it mattered. Period.

    Denver has no reason to fear the great Patriots. 6 out of 8 times Tom Brady has left Mile High a loser. Some have the opinion that those games don’t matter. That’s an opinion. He’s lost 6 of 8 in Denver. That’s a fact.

  106. NE lost that game because they gave up a season high 179 yards rushing. They lost that game because they were 2-13 on 3rd Down. They lost that game because they didn’t make plays when it mattered. They lost that game because they didn’t make plays when it mattered. Period.
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    Missing LBs (Hightower and Collins) and WRs (Edelman and Amendola) will do that to a team.

    Good thing the fourth-string punt returner muffed that punt, eh?

  107. The AFCCG is going to come down to two questions:

    1) Can NE’s WRs get open more quickly than DEN’s pass rush can get to Brady?
    2) Can Manning throw an out route versus a defense that is going to be flooding the short and intermediate middle?

  108. Suggest you watch a replay of his Super Bowl TD. He got open on his own.
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    He did that twice, actually. Brady just missed him the first time, but they came back to it for the TD.

  109. yeah, add a drug abusing PCP using edge rusher to that.

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    Funny I don’t remember seeing any confirmed reports that Jones was on PCP, just some has been toeing the ESPN party line, and making the “logical” jump to it being PCP

    Quick, don’t look now, but your double standard panties are showing. Put your skirt back on and relish in the fact your QB has thrown a single touchdown at home, all year… “It’s interceptions I throw so well”

  110. smasonsmith says:
    Jan 18, 2016 10:23 PM
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    Missing LBs (Hightower and Collins) and WRs (Edelman and Amendola) will do that to a team.

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    This is what I’m talking about, Pats fan. When did Hightower, Collins, and Edelman become Butkus, LT and Jerry Rice. Edelman is decent but is he a Top 10 WR? Top 20 maybe. And Amendola? C’mon, man. NE couldn’t stop the run vs Jets 3 weeks ago and Collins played in that game. I mean, NE isn’t able to overcome 4 guys with 20 combined seasons and zero combined Pro Bowls?

    I even saw Pats fan complaining about not having Dion Lewis aka Barry Sanders.

    On the other hand, Denver was minus Ware, Vasquez, Ward and Ryan Clady. 4 guys with a combined 15 Pro Bowls. Yet, somehow they managed to win the game.

    Again, ever team in the NFL has injuries. Put the “but ____ was injured” complaints to bed. That excuse is so tired.

  111. babygaga19 says:
    Jan 18, 2016 11:27 PM
    I wonder what injuries the Cheats will fake this week?
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    You mean the ones the league requires them to list? Funny nobody called the Steelers out for Big Ben and his “ligament damage”, after he came out and threw a 50 yd bomb, or the fact the Dolts never listed Luck’s injuries at all (where the hell is that investigation? Player safety and all)…but I’m beginning to expect nothing but a double standard from the fans of other teams.

  112. How appropriate that the two most flagrantly cheating franchises will be playing one another in the AFC Championship game. I guess crime does pay.

  113. I’m a Pats fan. They are the biggest cheaters in history. If winning the most since 2001 means you are a cheater, then the Pats cheat!!!!
    (Calling the Pats cheaters is what therapists tell Jets fans to focus on. Repeat after me..it’s only a movie…it’s only a movie. Pats are cheaters….Pats are cheaters…. psychotherapy )

  114. Go Broncos! Would love to see Peyton get another ring, move to Louisiana, then become a GENIOUS coach (oh wait, he already is!). Face it Pats fans, MOST of America is rooting AGAINST your beloved team this weekend!!!

  115. Lame attempt by Marshall to try and make this a big issue so the refs will pay more attention on it. After the disgusting display of reffing during the regular season meeting, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the refs throw a few more idiotic flags, except this time they’ll be on a much bigger stage in front of a much bigger audience.

  116. Of course fans are rooting against the Pats. They always go against the winning team. Remember when it was the Cowboys decades ago? As Pats fans we expect it and welcome it, because when they stop hating the Pats, that means the Pats will not be the supreme dominant team in the league.
    But, the so called experts, including Vegas, are picking the Pats to win. Strip out the illogical emotional hatred, and reality sets in and they realize the Pats, when healthy, are the better team.

  117. The physicality goes both ways with big targets like Gronk. If you want to be so ticky tack with penalties, you can call illegal contact against Gronk on countless plays as well.

    But its football…go and play. Broncos will make a point to refs to look out for it because he’s a tough cover. Guess we’ll see if their complaining works like last match up.

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