New Browns brass in no hurry on Johnny Manziel or Josh Gordon

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There were immediate reports after the hiring of coach Hue Jackson that Johnny Manziel’s time in Cleveland was short.

But new Browns vice president of football operations Sashi Brown said Thursday he’s in no hurry to determine the future of either Manziel or suspended wide receiver Josh Gordon.

I know a lot’s been written about him. What we expect is Johnny to have a good offseason and be ready to go. We’re not in any panic to make any decision one way or another on him,” Brown said, via Pat McManamon of ESPN.com. “He understands what’s ahead of him and what he needs to do to have a career in this league and with the Browns.”

He also deferred when asked about Gordon, who has applied for reinstatement from his indefinite suspension for violating the league’s substance abuse policy.

Brown said that because he’s been preoccupied with hiring a coach and a personnel staff, he hasn’t had time to investigate where Manziel even was for the regular season finale, amid reports he was in Las Vegas.

“We don’t know where Johnny was,” Brown said. “I don’t know where Johnny was the final game of the season.”

Brown said the team would sit down with Manziel “at the appropriate time,” though it’s unclear when that time will be.

Brown said Jackson would have “huge input” into personnel calls, so if he’s not predisposed to Manziel, it might just be a question of when rather than if.

35 responses to “New Browns brass in no hurry on Johnny Manziel or Josh Gordon

  1. Yeah, because headcase QBs with talent always work out well in the NFL. Like, for example… um…

  2. They know exactly where Johnny was. It hasnt had time to investigate?….gimme a break…its one phine call. The NFL thinks everyone is an idiot and that whatever they say will be believed. Just makes them look like idiots.

  3. What is Manziel worth, exactly? I can’t see anything better than maybe, at best, a mid-2nd round pick… If someone offers that, Brown has to move him on the spot.

  4. “Brown said the team would sit down with Manziel “at the appropriate time,” though it’s unclear when that time will be.”

    Johnny your new boss is…………..Jerry Jones, pack your bags kid.

  5. As soon as they are allowed to do trades and free agency, they need get a trade out of Manziel and make a decision on Gordon. Get the distractions out of the way and focus on what the roster will be next season, and try to maximize that.

  6. The Browns would be lucky to get a 4th round pick for Crackhead Johnny. Just cut his worthless butt and move on. Gordon, I believe deserves another look based on talent alone.

  7. I didn’t want the entitled little weasel in the first place or the circus that follows the fragile little weasel around .

    I would trade him for a mid round pick and not to Dallas . that’s where he wants to go . he has had his way his whole life that’s part of his problem. No upbringing .

    Gooo Browns ..dump Billy Affluenza .

    yes I’m a hater ,,so what its warranted !

  8. What is Manziel worth, exactly? I can’t see anything better than maybe, at best, a mid-2nd round pick… If someone offers that, Brown has to move him on the spot.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    In what world does an unproven quarterback with off field issues merit a second round pick? Trading Manziel is going to bring in a conditional fifth rounder, if you’re lucky and Jerry Jones has been drinking. The kid is a project at best and a washout at worst.

  9. If the Browns can get a 7th round pick for him, they should jump for joy.

    Remember Carson Palmer was traded for a 7th round pick that could and did turn into a 6th round pick. So what exactly is Johnny worth?

    It seems weird that the Browns don’t know the whereabouts of Johnny during that debacle. Teams always know where their players are on game day. You know because they don’t want to leave someone behind and if they have to, they can levy a fine/punishment.

    So this reeks of two things
    1. They are lying
    2. They are incompetent

    I don’t know why they would lie. It’s not like this action changes your opinion of him. You either realized he’s a knucklehead a long time ago, or you simply can’t deal with reality and try to fool yourself. The people fooling themselves, won’t stop fooling themselves, and this wasn’t going to change that for anyone.

    So either they are ‘protecting’ Johnny for no reason, or they are incompetent.

    Johnny has pissed all over the Browns organization and told them it’s raining, and the Browns seem dumb enough to accept that lie.

    Now due to another change in the organization Johnny and Josh are likely to get another chance. Anyone think the future results will differ from the past?

    So why hire someone new if all they are going to do is re-fight the same fight they’ve already lost?

    They are taking their time and resources (which is short with Haslam) spinning their wheels.

    It’s insane when you think that the Johnny situation, and the Kaepernick situation is much of the rationale of why the previous regimes in CLE and SF failed, and the owners hired people who don’t want to move on…. at least not yet.

    If anything you want resolution on these situations, and in reality, you had a valid rationale with plenty of supporting evidence to move on from these problems of those two franchises… and the new guys seemingly want to give it time.

    Hopefully for the sake of the Browns fans they realize their error and send the Problem Child over to the Cowboys so he can be Jerrah’s problem.

    But it should not be comforting that your new hires want to try to salvage what has been proven to not be salvageable. It should not be comforting that they don’t have the answer to the obvious right now. It should not be comforting that ownership went through a hiring process without finding that answer.

    It seems like they want you to think there has been a change, but really they want to try more of the same.

  10. Browns should keep Johnny Loser in the roster for 2 more years as a 3rd QB. This is what that Loser should get in hatching a plan to get out of Cleveland.

  11. Who’s Johnny? I only know of a young man named Billy who avoids work and instead spends his time at Vegas Blackjack tables and clubs and still keeps his job. I’m jealous.

    How sad is the Browns organization that they are so afraid to bid him good bye because they are worried about another team shinning up this turd.

  12. Sashi on Qb’s – We are very excited about having Josh McCown onboard and of course Johnny is still on the roster- Ouch…not exactly a ringing endorsement the for billy football

  13. If you are truly a Browns fan you will realize that the QB position was one of the best performing positions on the field for them this year (TE was best). Browns have a terrible O-line, running game, receivers and putrid Defense.

    Of course almost everyone is a Manziel hater but fact is that for this season the Browns were:

    2-4 with Manziel starting
    1-9 in all other games

    Quit drafting QBs and get some talent around the QB. Even Brady could not do anything on the Browns with the lack of talent.

  14. Onionman…. Manziel’s play is not the issue. His talent 100% was good enough to be the starter going into next season.

    What’s not good enough is that Manziel quit on his team. That is the worst thing a QB can do. All that concussion BS…. it was an act. He quit. Didn’t even show up to stand on the sidelines. Unforgivable. he forced their hand.

    Blame Johnny, not the team.

  15. Onionman says:
    Jan 21, 2016 4:01 PM

    If you are truly a Browns fan you will realize that the QB position was one of the best performing positions on the field for them this year (TE was best). Browns have a terrible O-line, running game, receivers and putrid Defense.

    Of course almost everyone is a Manziel hater but fact is that for this season the Browns were:

    2-4 with Manziel starting
    1-9 in all other games

    Quit drafting QBs and get some talent around the QB. Even Brady could not do anything on the Browns with the lack of talent.
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    And let the kid start all of the games to see if he can develop.

  16. ….that’s the problem. There’s no sense of urgency on this team.
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    In this case, what would urgency get you? Nothing, maybe less than if they wait.

  17. Look you morons. You have Maziel in hand. Keep the sob as a back up and a good one at that. Otherwise your looking at drafting your future, finding a back up and losing a one pick for about nothing in return.
    He needs a few years on the bench maturing and learning the system. He is simply someone rushed along to soon and his ego couldn’t handle it.
    Hey Rogers sat behind Favre for four years. Oswieller behing Manning for four years. It happens

  18. If Johnny’s smart he’ll do whatever he has to to stay on the team. Because if there’s anyone in the league who can actually unlock his potential, it’s Hue Jackson.

    Jackson has greatness in him. Take it from a Raiders fan. Firing him was the worst move we’ve made since JaMarcus. There have been MANY, MANY destructive moves since Hue, but firing him was particularly egregious.

  19. hodawg says:
    Jan 21, 2016 3:39 PM
    “Sashi on Qb’s – We are very excited about having Josh McCown onboard and of course Johnny is still on the roster- Ouch…not exactly a ringing endorsement the for billy football”
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    I can guarantee you Hue is NOT “very excited” to have McCown. Hue fully understands the importance of a top-shelf QB. That’s why he paid a huge price to get Palmer from CIN. And even though he was crucified for the move, look who’s a game away from the SB…

    Hue knows what he’s doing. He’s not always right but when it REALLY counts he makes smart decisions.

  20. Stick billy Manziel on the bench and make him inactive every week and run the scout team. He will prob quit before his contract is up and the browns can get some money back. Make him suffer. I’m sure he wants cut more than anything…don’t give him the satisfaction

  21. Manziel and Gordon are distractions.

    The sooner the Browns get rid of them, the sooner they can turn their full attention to their plan for failure in 2016.

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    As a Browns fan, I feel all cracks at us aren’t well-thought out so I envision a toothless frontrunner (“fan”) as I read but I admit I laughed at this one. I didn’t see it coming.

  22. Dallas should trade for both. Give their 2nd pick in the draft, not #4, and a 4th. It would solve their backup, future, QB issue and address the WR position without possibly using the #4 on one

  23. If they waste one more second on Manziel, then they have the wrong people in place. They need to get rid of him ASAP. Hopefully, they are still giving the impression that they might keep him to get a few teams calling them for a trade for a low draft pick. If they can’t trade him, then he needs to be cut, period!!

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