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Putting Bradford’s supposed $25 million per year demand in context

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As the 49ers get settled in with a new head coach, the team previously coached by their new coach needs to figure out whether it needs to get a new quarterback.

Based on a piece of information that surfaced this week, it probably does.

Jim Trotter of ESPN has reported (via TheBigLead.com) that Eagles quarterback Sam Bradford’s agent, Tom Condon, “came in asking for $25 million a year.”

That’s shocking in isolation. In context, it may make plenty of sense.

The $25 million likely was an opener. And it possibly was articulated in response to an opener from the Eagles.

When Condon was negotiated a pay cut with the Broncos for Peyton Manning, Denver initially asked for a $10 million reduction. from $19 million to $9 million. Condon and Manning were appropriately insulted; the Broncos then explained it was merely an opener. Ultimately, through the back-and-forth of negotiation, the salary was reduced to $15 million, with an opportunity to earn all of it back. (Win this weekend, and Manning will earn half of it back.)

As to Bradford, $25 million makes sense as an opener — especially if (for example) the Eagles had opened by offering something like $10 million per year. The $15 million spread would then be whittled down to, say, $16 million per year, which is hardly unreasonable in light of the current market.

With Bradford, the whittling process became problematic because no one knew how good he would be, after two seasons lost to a torn ACL. Now, the Eagles must put a value on a guy who started 14 games, completed 65 percent of his passes for 3,725 yards, threw 19 touchdown passes and 14 interceptions, and fumbled the ball 10 times, losing three. That value then will be compared to whatever another team would be willing to pay, and Bradford will have to make a decision.

Ultimately, he’s not getting $25 million per year. He also won’t be getting $10 million per year. The end result will be somewhere in between, as it would have been if the opening positions from Condon and the Eagles had sparked meaningful discussions resulting in a long-term deal.

The quibbling over money overlooks a very important factor in negotiations that ultimately went nowhere. Bradford feared that Chip Kelly would sign Bradford to a favorable contract and then trade that contract to another team. In the end, that dynamic may have had more to do with the failure to get a deal done than the predictable pie-in-the-sky and lowball numbers that get swapped early in negotiations.

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57 Responses to “Putting Bradford’s supposed $25 million per year demand in context”
  1. jh500 says: Jan 21, 2016 10:51 AM

    LOL! Was Bradfords agent drunk? 25 million for a guy who has done absolutely nothing in the league since being drafted no 1 overall cause he was supposedly a “cant miss prospect” at the time?

  2. ttommytom says: Jan 21, 2016 10:51 AM

    When it is all said and done, Bradford will have earned 100 million dollars.

    Maybe there should be 18 teams in the NFL so back up QB’s don’t make 100 million dollars…

  3. In Teddy We Trust says: Jan 21, 2016 10:53 AM

    The problem is that he really is only worth around $10 million a year. He should have asked for $100 million so they could settle around $40 million.

  4. jssebastian2014 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:00 AM

    Sign and trade with the 49ers for Kaepernick. Jed York deserves Chip and Badford.

  5. coltzfan166 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:01 AM

    I’ll be surprised if he even gets $10 mil/year. He can be an effective QB when he’s healthy….but he’s usually not, so why would a team pay him $16 million a year to be hurt?

  6. cardiovascularendurance says: Jan 21, 2016 11:01 AM

    This is what they came in with before the season. I love how it’s all of a sudden new news. It will sure be interesting to see what he gets, whether it’s from the Eagles or someone else. It certainly will not be $25m/ year, but will likely be a pretty big contract full of incentives.

  7. rjpats says: Jan 21, 2016 11:03 AM

    $7 million per year on a 2 year deal

  8. gucciseki7 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:06 AM

    Luckiest qb in the league…..hope ur knees last.

  9. laces out says: Jan 21, 2016 11:07 AM

    Bradford will demand more than he knows he’s going to get, the team will offer lower than they know he’ll agree on and then they’ll meet in the middle and argue over incentives. That’s how haggling typically works

  10. WilliamBelichick says: Jan 21, 2016 11:08 AM

    If he gets anything over 8mil, consider him one of the biggest pimps since Kevin Federline

  11. amanistumor says: Jan 21, 2016 11:09 AM

    Kid isn’t worth $25. I hope they send him packing and he’s resorted to $2.5M being a clipboard holder of better yet be out of the league.

  12. llcriticll says: Jan 21, 2016 11:09 AM

    10 million is too much for this guy as well. He Wrecked St Louis with that rookie contract and how some players get thier later salaries back-loaded for “Services done in prior years”, He should get a contract for 2 mil a year for the opposite.

  13. jonathankrobinson424 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:11 AM

    ……Bradford “I want a 25 million dollar contract, no a 20 million dollar contract, a great offensive line, a stud RB I can hand off to, some great WR’s to throw to”….

    Pederson”You’ll get nothing and like it!”

  14. granadafan says: Jan 21, 2016 11:13 AM

    What a completely ridiculous number to come up with even if it is “just an opener”. The Eagles should just roll on the floor laughing, a literal ROTFL, and tell Condon to come back with a more real offer if he wants real negotiation. If not, they’ll counter with $1, Price is Right style.

  15. jvw1982 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:15 AM

    I give him the same contract Kap and Tannehill got, 100 million over so many yrs with an option to get out of it in 2-3 yrs…..if you pay Kap and Tannehill that kind of money for not doing anything then Bradford is entitled to the same…..the market’s been set….25 million is completely out of the question but I’m sure it resulted in some good humor in the Eagles front office…..

  16. billsrule2015 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:19 AM

    EJ Manuel is better than Sam Bradford, and that’s not saying much seeing EJ is a BUST!!!

  17. 700levelvet says: Jan 21, 2016 11:21 AM

    The problem is Bradford hasn’t done anything to garner 5 mil a year, much less 25…

  18. amaf21 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:23 AM

    Lmao! Based on that logic Cousins should be asking for at least 35 mil/year.

  19. fshman00 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:23 AM

    Screw Bradford!!! Draft Lynch out of Memphis with pick 13!!!!

  20. chrisk61 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:27 AM

    first a glaring omission from this article is his franchise tag number ? that certainly relates to his value in a negotiated contract.

    so what is his franchise tag number mike ??

    second who is eagles alternative at QB ? no one. certainly not dirty sanchez. so in that regard, Bradford has eagles over a barrel in the short term.

    chances are Bradford remains eagles QB in the mid term. they may also sign RG3.

  21. willynillyphilly says: Jan 21, 2016 11:27 AM

    Franchise him and figure it out next year. He’s a solid QB

  22. tazman1996 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:29 AM

    Only one word needed……LAUGHABLE

  23. olskool711 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:29 AM

    We all need to look at hiring Condon as our agent.

  24. silvernblacksabbath says: Jan 21, 2016 11:30 AM

    Bradford needs to bulk up, steroids or HGH, whatever… He just needs to stay healthy and get some consistency and he’ll be fine…

  25. dexx57 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:32 AM

    Ridiculous Aikman he would be in MVP conversation this year

  26. Emmanuel Goldstein says: Jan 21, 2016 11:33 AM

    The Eagles need to set that negotiating table on fire. They would be wise to just cut all ties with Bradford. His interceptions and fumbles are far too costly. He is fragile. He is afraid of taking a big hit from a defender and you could see that when he was on the field. Bradford would be a mediocre backup and would be lucky to make $5 million to ride the pine. Plus, he’s cross-eyed.

  27. eaglesfan290 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:34 AM

    In context, it may make plenty of sense?

    They guy was hurt 2 years in a row played not 1 game and that would have made him the highest paid QB in the league!

    There is no context!

  28. bleedgreen says: Jan 21, 2016 11:38 AM

    willynillyphilly says:
    Jan 21, 2016 11:27 AM

    Franchise him and figure it out next year. He’s a solid QB

    ———–

    Exactly this. Franchise him, because there’s no one better on the market or in the draft and let him earn his next contract. He’ll either prove he’s worth it, and the Eagles pay him, or prove he’s not and everyone can wash their hands of the situation.

  29. joetoronto says: Jan 21, 2016 11:40 AM

    “When Condon was negotiated a pay cut with the Broncos for Peyton Manning, Denver initially asked for a $10 million reduction. from $19 million to $9 million. Condon and Manning were appropriately insulted; the Broncos then explained it was merely an opener.”

    That should have been the closer, not the opener. He couldn’t play anymore last year, never mind a year later.

  30. psj3809 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:44 AM

    How greedy are these idiots. Bradford was the last top pick to get a huge contract in the draft, before the rookie wage scale

    25 mill a year ? What a joke. You would think once a player earns 50 mill in his career they ‘might’ come down a peg or two and accept 12-15 mill a year!

  31. irishmanknowsall says: Jan 21, 2016 11:48 AM

    In my world:

    NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB teams put all their athletes on six figure annual salaries, that can go up a fixed amount, and down a fixed amount, based upon their previous year’s performance.
    Justin Upton batted .251 last year and just got handed the Treasury. Branch Rickey just started spinning….

    All the excess billions from all income sources, gets split to:
    a certain percentage to each franchise; the balance goes to community programs: education, job training, drug and alcohol counseling, homeless shelters, food banks.

    Imagine: a new nation in which we do not have some 13 million children going hungry; no homeless, no empty food bank shelves, no mentally ill wandering the streets, etc. Fantasy, I suppose, but the thing is, clearly, the money is being produced by and spent on, an incredibly small minority of our population, while the greater good and needs go vastly wanting.

    Imagine: running professional sports as a conduit to provide for those less fortunate.

    Gonna get a lot of thumbs down, but it makes no sense for me for people to continue to gather far more than they can ever need or spend, at the expense of the rest of us.

  32. TheDPR says: Jan 21, 2016 11:55 AM

    Sam Bradford is not a good quarterback. So why give him ANY money? Let him walk. This was his season to prove he’s worth keeping and he failed. Bye, Sam.

    People saying there isn’t anyone better available are missing the important point: he’s not good. The Eagles don’t have the talent to win now, anyway, so you draft a quarterback and/or bring in a talented younger guy who’s sitting as a backup via trade (Sean Glennon perhaps?). Let everyone get their feet wet this season, and build a team that can win next year.

  33. socal9er says: Jan 21, 2016 11:58 AM

    While you guys all laugh (and that number is ridiculous). Unfortunately, that is where the market is going. The deals that Stafford, Romo and Cutler signed a few years back are paving the way for middle of the road quarterbacks to get 15-18 mil/year. It won’t be long till they’re getting 20mil and the Elite guys are all pushing 30mil. It’s a sad state of affairs but as long the cap goes up annually this trend will continue.

  34. sallust99 says: Jan 21, 2016 11:58 AM

    If Bradford goes to the Texans, he may well being holding a Lombadri in 2017 or 2018. That is where he should sign. Better receivers and better head coach. And of course a better D. If I was advising Sammy B, we would be signing with Houston.

  35. tremoluxman says: Jan 21, 2016 11:59 AM

    Bradford + $25M = Spit Take.

  36. In Teddy We Trust says: Jan 21, 2016 12:03 PM

    @irishmanknowsall –

    That’s a wonderful sentiment but what happens when the government decides that you’re making too much money?

    There are already billions of dollars going to the kinds of programs you describe and things aren’t getting better. Sometimes throwing money at a problem isn’t the answer.

  37. sallust99 says: Jan 21, 2016 12:09 PM

    If Bradford goes to the Texans, he may well being holding a Lombardi in 2017 or 2018. That is where he should sign. Better receivers and better head coach. And of course a better D. If I was advising Sammy B, we would be signing with Houston.

  38. bondlake says: Jan 21, 2016 12:12 PM

    People are unbelievably stupid.

    We tolerate the National Felons League, whose leaders extort money from the public for their playgrounds, while enriching themselves at everyone else’s expense.

    Why do people tolerate such nonsense?

  39. PokeSalad says: Jan 21, 2016 12:19 PM

    $16 mil for a quarterback made of peanut brittle. /smh

  40. ramsangeles says: Jan 21, 2016 12:22 PM

    You are welcome to come to Los Angeles with your old family Sammy B! You’d have a great RB and Tavon to help take the load off of your aching knee.

    Of course you may have to take a bit of a pay cut, but at least you’d be in LA!

  41. jgang10 says: Jan 21, 2016 12:23 PM

    Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    The Eagles need to set that negotiating table on fire. They would be wise to just cut all ties with Bradford. His interceptions and fumbles are far too costly. He is fragile. He is afraid of taking a big hit from a defender and you could see that when he was on the field. Bradford would be a mediocre backup and would be lucky to make $5 million to ride the pine. Plus, he’s cross-eyed.
    __________________________________

    Bradford is the best option on the table by far. Who else would you want in there, Sanchez?! Bradford came into a new system where he didn’t have the ability to audible or line up under the I-Formation. The defenses figured out Chips system and knew the plays before he snapped the ball. He brushed off the dust in the beginning of the year and turned it around towards the end of the season. He got lite up countless times and still got up. He also had a poor offensive line and had Wr’s who couldn’t catch the ball. His numbers would’ve been great if they caught his passes. He puts it on the money and has a great QB football IQ. I agree $25m is a ridiculous number but obviously this is just a starting figure. He’ll get somewhere around $16m for 4 years and I’m fine with that. The real question is does he want to stay in Philly…

  42. jonwill57 says: Jan 21, 2016 12:31 PM

    Bradford’s jersey should have a huge question mark instead of a number. Can he stay healthy? Can he learn ANOTHER system? Did he take too many hits? Is he worth the money???

  43. PokeSalad says: Jan 21, 2016 12:33 PM

    Brandon Weeden is available….

    #DontStopBeWeeden

  44. floratiotime says: Jan 21, 2016 12:43 PM

    How much money do these entitled pigs need?

  45. intrafinesse says: Jan 21, 2016 12:54 PM

    1. Bradford improved over time.

    2. Average QBs make 15-16 MM/Y or more. Is he average? Take into account receiver drops and bad oline play at tho start, plus his learning a new system.

    3. What is the alternative for the Eagles? Let him walk and ? Start Sanchez? Ok, that works for tanking, the team will go 5-11. Draft a QB? They will have to trade up to get a good one.

    If Bradford isn’t franchised and is a free agent, then the Browns and Texans should take a look. He wont cost them draft picks, and their current QB is terrible.

  46. toaster463 says: Jan 21, 2016 1:01 PM

    intrafinesse:

    Sam Bradford has a lower QBR than Josh McCown and Brian Hoyer, while playing in the offense that is the easiest to have good numbers in. Nick Foles had a QBR of 73.8 in this offense. NICK FOLES.

    Bradford is absolute garbage

  47. joe6606 says: Jan 21, 2016 1:59 PM

    When you come into negotiations with an opening offer like this, you’re just not negotiating in good faith.

  48. granadafan says: Jan 21, 2016 2:36 PM

    If his agent going to be this unrealistic, then why not ask for $50 million? Hey it’s just a “starting point” where we meet in the middle, right?

  49. ed2head says: Jan 21, 2016 2:38 PM

    It is all based on the law of supply and demand. The supply is too small and the demand is too great.

  50. fanofpft says: Jan 21, 2016 5:51 PM

    How about a don’t get hurt incentive?

  51. sevenup3000 says: Jan 21, 2016 6:47 PM

    This is the same Florio that thought it wise for the Bears to give Cutler in excess of 20 million a year and a 100 million dollar contract. Now you want to explain how Bradford asking for 25 million is okay?

    What if this were Kaepernick asking for 25 million? You would write what a piece of crap Kaepernick was for even asking for it. But with Sam you want to “keep it in context”? When have you or the media ever wanted, except when it suited your bias, to want anything a player says in context?

  52. wasabiradish says: Jan 22, 2016 5:30 PM

    @bondlake

    “We tolerate the National Felons League, whose leaders extort money from the public for their playgrounds, while enriching themselves at everyone else’s expense.

    Why do people tolerate such nonsense?”
    *****************

    Turn off your television. Don’t by tickets to the games. Don’t talk about football to anyone. No one is forcing the NFL down your throat. Sports are strictly an ‘at will’ entertainment. If you’re not entertained, skip it. If NFL profits go down things will change, because it’s and entertainment business.

  53. randomcommenter says: Jan 22, 2016 6:08 PM

    Did Condon put his pinky finger to the corner of his mouth when he asked for that?

    I wouldn’t pay Bradford more than a backup. Where has he ever proven he is any good?.

  54. david1800 says: Jan 23, 2016 5:09 PM

    The 2015 season is over and this is how Bradford compared to Tebow’s first 16.
    Bradford threw 65% for 19 TDs in 532 attempts with 14 interceptions, 0 rushing scores in 14 games.
    Tim Tebow threw 47.3% for 19 TDs in 374 attempts with 9 ints, 15 rushing scores in his first 15.5 games and 13 plays.
    Why does Tebow score more often? He is patient in the pocket and throws longer passes.
    Bradford averaged 10.7 yards per completion and Tebow averaged 15.3 yards per completion.
    Bradford scored every 18.2 completions and 28 attempts in 2015.
    Tebow scored every 9.3 completions and 19.6 attempts in 2010/2011.
    Tebow scored almost twice as often per completion and much more often per pass attempt and added 937 yards rushing. The Eagles would have won their division and gone to the playoffs with 15 more scores, another 937 yards rushing and 5 fewer interceptions from their quarterback.
    Tebow scored 34 times in 549 touches.
    Bradford scored 19 times in 558 touches.
    Kelly and the Eagles went 7-9 in a weak division with an injured Romo because he cut Tim Tebow, the highest and fastest scoring player on his team, passing or rushing. If Bradford is worth $25 mil, then Tebow is worth $45 mil. Bradford has not had a winning season or gone to the playoffs in his 5 year career and has never scored more than 22 times in a season. If the Eagles want to go to the playoffs next year they should start Tim Tebow.

  55. polapea says: Jan 24, 2016 6:46 AM

    Has there been a QB, not named JaMarcus, that’s stolen more $ than Sam Bradford

  56. 46namredyps11 says: Jan 24, 2016 8:23 PM

    If he gets it I want his agent negotiating my next raise.

  57. lambeaudungbarn says: Jan 27, 2016 10:15 AM

    Bradford is one of those QB’s that will play for 2 more teams then he will be finished. One of those could have been QB’s.
    He is decent enough but like a China Doll handled by a 4 yr old, a Franchise just cant take the chance on him staying healthy. How long has it been since he has played a full season?
    Dump him, Draft a QB and take the 2 years of low draft picks to rebuild the team.
    Let him be another team’s headache!

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