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Kanell’s comments underscore the biggest flaw of Bountygate

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When non-Patriots fans shrug at #DeflateGate, the best response is this: Your team could be the next one in the crosshairs of an arbitrary, results-oriented NFL prosecution. One fan base doesn’t need to hear that.

Saints fans know how the NFL can, if it chooses, take a potentially widespread and longstanding cultural reality, focus narrowly on the team that was unfortunate enough to be caught doing it, and make an example out of the team irrespective of logic or common sense.

The recent remarks from ESPN’s Danny Kanell highlight the biggest problem with the entire Bountygate effort. Football players already have a clear incentive to sideline their opponents.

The incentive becomes even stronger when the opponent is a quarterback and when the prize is a trip to the Super Bowl. Thanks to Bountygate and the NFL’s newfound sensitivity to player health and safety (which was one of the main reasons Bountygate even happened), it’s now shocking to hear someone say what has always been presumed: If you can use physicality, within or even beyond the boundaries of the rules, to intimidate or incapacitate an opponent, you should.

Kanell realized that he needed to expressly limit his remarks to the intimidation aspect. Even that is provoking a strong reaction. Ten years ago, it wouldn’t have — even if he’d added in the notion of knocking Brady out of the game.

While it’s no longer kosher to say it out loud, football players (especially at the NFL level) know it. When chasing the ultimate prize, eliminating key members of the other team from the chase helps. Thanks to Bountygate and the concussion crisis, folks get squeamish when someone admits it. The mindset nevertheless lingers, mostly unspoken but undeniably present.

Which is why the entire premise of Bountygate was flawed. With the franchise’s first Super Bowl berth on the line, along with the increased playoff share and a shot at a ring, of course the Saints had every reason to bruise and batter Vikings quarterback Brett Favre, with legal or illegal hits. The Broncos have that same incentive as to Tom Brady. The Patriots have an equal incentive as to Peyton Manning.

The same applies for the Cardinals and Cam Newton, and the Panthers and Carson Palmer. Nearly four years after Bountygate, it rarely gets acknowledged. It’s still present, especially as quarterback play continues to become more and more important to a team’s overall success.

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77 Responses to “Kanell’s comments underscore the biggest flaw of Bountygate”
  1. ckg0913 says: Jan 23, 2016 11:52 AM

    Are you sure the Patriots wouldn’t rather have Manning in there?

  2. PATRIOTSDYNASTYLIVES says: Jan 23, 2016 11:55 AM

    Danny WHO??

  3. wte1 says: Jan 23, 2016 11:56 AM

    Danny Kanell was so bad the Broncos didn’t have to circumvent the salary cap for him.

    Instead, Kanell had to secretly give money back to the team.

  4. paulieorkid says: Jan 23, 2016 11:59 AM

    Kanell’s morals are repugnant. Kanell is arguing for the Broncos defenders to not only cheat on purpose, but to do so in a violent way that puts a vulnerable player at tremendous risk.

    Could there possibly be bigger stain on the 2015/16 playoffs season (the NFL’s 50th in the Super Bowl era) — than to have a flagrantly late and illegal hit knocking out a Hall of Fame legend ON PURPOSE?

    Kannel sounds like the kind of guy who would embezzle the 401Ks of his elderly clients, if the penalty were sufficiently low, rationalizing that, “If I score $15,000,000 and hide it offshore – who cares how much it screws anyone over as long as I’me out of the can in 3 years?”

    Not my kind of person – and I would not want that person employed anywhere near me or anyone else for that matter.

  5. factman66 says: Jan 23, 2016 12:01 PM

    The Patriots had the commissioner cover-up their cheating during spygate, that’s a fact. The Patriots have been cheating for over a decade and you act like them being held accountable is them being victimized. That’s not the case, had Goodell handled spygate properly then nobody would have pushed for him to go heavy during deflategate.

  6. gr365 says: Jan 23, 2016 12:01 PM

    Danny needs to chill out! Sure he wouldn’t like it if the Patriots put a hit on Manning? The guy who had the faux sack, got back up and threw a pass.
    Of course the Refs let it slide…

  7. coachkilla6 says: Jan 23, 2016 12:05 PM

    “Bountygate” was a myth created by the sore losers of Minnesota. MN has more 40+ year old men still living in their parent’s basements than the state has lakes. Favre took a beating because he was tired of putting on that purple uniform every week. The Saints made his skin color match the uniform.

  8. stampnhawk says: Jan 23, 2016 12:05 PM

    Bounty gate not flawed. A systematic, organized system, run by a person with the power in a NFL team as a defensive coordinator, for all games, week 1 or NFCC, for hits and dirty plays that get paid out on a scale of how many plays the injured person misses, is ridiculous and stupid.

    Kanells comments are what many people, thinking logically, and without regard for the human suffering aspect of it, have thought in football and all team sports, when the stakes get high. That is, effectively, cut off the head of the other team and you have a good chance at winning.

    Footballs the easiest sport to do that in, given the contact, and how vital the QB is, that got a team far in the playoffs in this case.

    It’s something that, in this day of PC and social sensitivity is frowned upon by bleeding hearts, and those looking to create a juicy story, but when tens of millions of dollars that come with winning a Superbowl, nevermind the personal and team achievement aspect of winning the trophy, only natural you have to think of any and all ways to get past your opponent.

    Not saying it’s right or in good sportsmanship, but there are 11 guys out in the field, coached and watch video to exploit even the smallest flaw in their opponent as a team and individuals in the other team as far as thier tendencies. One guy goes rouge and says I’ll hit Brady or Manning late, and then twist hard on their knee and ankle while on the ground so it causes damage for them to leave the game, that takes care of those concerns about the QB beating them, since they are on the sideline.

    I’m actually surprised it’s never blatantly happened, outside of the Williams thing vs Farve, given the high stakes that players feel come playoffs. Team chances go down to about 5% of winning if your QB goes down in a divisional round or later.

  9. abninf says: Jan 23, 2016 12:06 PM

    Destroyed the cell phone in the car before going up to be questioned. The Deflator. The lame excuses I heard for those two issues are excuses from someone with something to hide.

  10. allight59 says: Jan 23, 2016 12:16 PM

    The biggest problem with bountygate is that the illegal hits on Favre weren’t called. Had they been the Saints never make it to the Superbowl. High/Low hits were a point of emphasis that year and was not called when the Vikings were driving to put the game away. Call the illegal hits and teams will found out targeting the QB will cost them the game, not win it….

  11. hurricane6670 says: Jan 23, 2016 12:16 PM

    You really had to remind us of Bountygate? Still a much worse issue than Deflategate could ever dream of being. And the Refs allowing it to happen is the most confusing part.

  12. carloswlassiter says: Jan 23, 2016 12:18 PM

    I’d say that Kanell’s comments could get him suspended by the network, but if Chris Carter’s famous “You need a fall guy” speech didn’t do it, nothing will.

  13. floratiotime says: Jan 23, 2016 12:19 PM

    I love how a media dope like Kanell says something and everyone acts as if it came out of the Broncos home office.

  14. willycents says: Jan 23, 2016 12:23 PM

    Patiently waiting for Hightower to hit Manning in the head to teach the Broncos a lesson for some unknown commentator’s comments.

  15. mrbigass says: Jan 23, 2016 12:23 PM

    Knock Brady out of the game for a 15 yard penalty?

    You can be assured that the defense is already cookin that pie……

  16. evilglazers666 says: Jan 23, 2016 12:25 PM

    Let’s just be real. The NFL is like WWE. The whole patriots cheating came from the league office and bribes from dick Cheney to the commissioner and Kraft so at a time where they needed Americans to shut up and go along with the Iraq invasion so Cheney could make millions with Halliburton on rebuilding the country after they leveled it. The patriots winning and defying all odds with sketchy okay calling was all they needed to create a “patriotic” mentality on this country at the time. It was a time when sports was considered not important compared to the devastating losses on September 11th. Rip to every soul who died or loved ones did. Both Cheney and the nfl made out like a king and profits have never been better. The goal is not to improve the Integrety of the game. The goal has always been to line pockets. When the patriots won too much, it was time to bring them down and boost ratings. They need a new winning team, hence deflate hate. Really? Deflating footballs? Yes, this was actually a thing. I don’t have facts, this is a theory.

  17. db36jp78 says: Jan 23, 2016 12:25 PM

    Bobby Bowden famously taught to hit until the echo of the whistle in college! Eventual we’ll ban old NFL films because the game was just too violent for today’s sensitive people. Danny Kanell just said what is being talked about in defensive meeting. The NFL is a rough place, it’s a violent game played by violent people. The hand wringing over this nonsense is comical.

  18. evilglazers666 says: Jan 23, 2016 12:27 PM

    Every team had a bounty program. That’s a fact.

  19. dingusgenius says: Jan 23, 2016 12:27 PM

    “Destroyed the cell phone in the car before going up to be questioned. The Deflator. The lame excuses I heard for those two issues are excuses from someone with something to hide.”

    LOL

    That’s a new one. Destroyed it in the car before going up huh?

    Where’d you read that one, sweetie?

    Oh that’s right. You didn’t read it anywhere. You made it up because you’re a liar.

  20. rutledge3197 says: Jan 23, 2016 12:28 PM

    I’m a fan of Brady or Manning but saying the ref let one slide with slide sack pass last week should adjust your glasses cuz little Tammy gets more calls than the all the QB’s did in the 90’s….. I’m pretty sure it was Jack Lambert that said QB’s should wear dresses … Man he was dead on

  21. Della Street says: Jan 23, 2016 12:32 PM

    abninf says:
    Jan 23, 2016 12:06 PM
    Destroyed the cell phone in the car before going up to be questioned. The Deflator. The lame excuses I heard for those two issues are excuses from someone with something to hide.

    ______________

    It’s called “science.” Intentional deflation never happened. It’s truly a shame the NFL is corrupt and moronic fans of teams repeatedly pounded by the Patriots are blind to it.

  22. Mr. Wright 212 says: Jan 23, 2016 12:34 PM

    Patriots fans coming out in droves to do what they do best: whine. Like their female QB.

  23. justafan2014 says: Jan 23, 2016 12:44 PM

    Good job Danny Kannell

  24. fanofpft says: Jan 23, 2016 12:45 PM

    Anyone who knows a stitch about the game could see a difference from an average game were you might see a couple late hits or so. To how the Saints were playing. It was consistently blatant. With the pinnacle focused on Favre.

    Tidbit info

    Danny Kanell’s dad was the Fins doctor that favored QB Culpepper over Brees.

  25. packertruth says: Jan 23, 2016 12:51 PM

    How exactly does this underscore the biggest flaw of Bountygate?

    While there is an inherent incentive in a competition to sideline better opponents to face weaker opponents, receiving a financial bonus for knocking players out of the game still seems wrong.

    The inherent incentive cannot be separated from professional sports (football, hockey) where vast amounts of physical contact occur. But financial bonuses tied directly to injuries should be.

  26. SKOLI'S II says: Jan 23, 2016 12:51 PM

    Or we could all be reasonable and respectful human beings.

    But, yeah. Competition and stuff.

  27. dualprime says: Jan 23, 2016 12:51 PM

    “Football players already have a clear incentive to sideline their opponents.”

    Dead-on accurate! As long as it’s done within the rules we can’t complain, even if it’s Brady. I’m hoping the refs don’t over/under officiate this game. Let them play, be physical but stay within reason.

    PS: Still don’t know exactly what a catch is!

  28. mullman76 says: Jan 23, 2016 12:54 PM

    “The quarterback must go down and he must go down hard.”

    Take it easy paulieorkid.

    Hit him, hit him, hit him.

    That is not repugnant, it is football.

    At least it used to be.

    Go Raiders

  29. Ralphie says: Jan 23, 2016 12:59 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says:
    Jan 23, 2016 12:34 PM
    Patriots fans coming out in droves to do what they do best: whine. Like their female QB.
    ____________________________

    Time to change your pad.

  30. quinzze says: Jan 23, 2016 1:01 PM

    So an ex Broncos QB comes out and says he thinks the Broncos should put late hits on Brady in an attempt to intentionally injure him and people are posting about spy gate , Halliburton, and Brady’s cellphone … Awesome. It must suck so bad to hate the Patriots.

  31. zigthepatsfan says: Jan 23, 2016 1:17 PM

    It’s almost impossible to get a good hit on Peyton. He’ll either get rid of it quick or go fetal if he sees it coming. Pretty sure the Pats will get after him though, can’t wait!

  32. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 23, 2016 1:34 PM

    “Destroyed the cell phone in the car before going up to be questioned.”

    Please stop with the lies. It was not destroyed in his car on the way to see Wells

    In fact it had already been examined and gone through by Wells, they had all the data and records they wanted off it and told Brady they had zero need to see it again.

  33. filthymcnasty3 says: Jan 23, 2016 1:37 PM

    The bounty on Favre really was unnecessary. The Vikings always find a way to lose – as we saw when they shanked that 27 yard chip shot a few weeks ago.

  34. rugdog100 says: Jan 23, 2016 1:40 PM

    The Vikings should have gone after Brees and busted him up – period.

    From an NFL perspective, the best way to deal with players intentionally injuring other players is:
    1) Ejection from the game being played.
    2) Suspension from upcoming games (if in the playoffs, immediate appeal process.)

  35. joeybrownersgoonakickyourarse says: Jan 23, 2016 1:51 PM

    I distinctly recall three plays in a row that ended in late hit on the QB penalties in that game. Three in a row!? At some point the intent to do damage becomes obvious and somebody needs to be ejected to get the rest of the players’ attention. The Refs just let that bullsheet play out on the field.

    The damage they did that day just might effect the rest of Favre’s life, and certainly damaged his capabilities the last season of his career.

    As a life long Vikings fan, I feel strongly that they not only cheated their way into what should have been our Superbowl, but that they ruined our next season too. The Ain’ts got most of what they had coming and I think its long past due that people stop crying about their punishment for the obvious evils they committed!

    True justice would have seen at least one of those forfeited picks given to the Vikings.

  36. footballfan72 says: Jan 23, 2016 2:13 PM

    He only said what is common knowledge. Cut off the head and the body will die. At least he has the cajones to say what most people shy away from just to be PC. It’s no different than warfare. Take out the officers, kill the machine gunner/automatic weapons crew etc etc etc…..

  37. belbobelbo says: Jan 23, 2016 2:22 PM

    Vontaze Burfict effectively single-handedly ended the season of 2 of the best 3 players on the steelers (bell and brown) and seriously injured the 3rd (big ben). He crippled them to the point that they just couldn’t overcome it. Bounty or not he was pretty effective in neutralizing a division opponent.

  38. corny715 says: Jan 23, 2016 2:44 PM

    Quit being a baby. It’s football. Qbs get hit. Boo hoo.

  39. broncoscountry33 says: Jan 23, 2016 2:45 PM

    You can tell who the bleeding heart millennials are by reading the comments above. They have a nice collection of 9th place ribbons at their mommies house

  40. classicfinder says: Jan 23, 2016 2:52 PM

    Sweep the leg, Vonny

  41. nhpats says: Jan 23, 2016 3:28 PM

    classicfinder says:
    Jan 23, 2016 2:52 PM
    Sweep the leg, Vonny

    ————–
    That is exactly what Jamie Collins will do to Emanuel Sanders if any nonsense takes place with Brady.

  42. billsfan1 says: Jan 23, 2016 3:50 PM

    Saints got screwed far worse than NE. In the battle of the gates

  43. skawh says: Jan 23, 2016 3:53 PM

    It’s laughable to read all the indignation from the supporters of a team who for the better part of 5 plus years knowingly employed a serial killer, aka Hernandez.

    Do you suppose Wes Welker took out Talib intentionally with an illegal pick in 2013.

    NE fans who live in glass houses should learn not to throw stones for history is glaring back at them for all to see.

  44. youknowiknowitall says: Jan 23, 2016 4:49 PM

    It’s laughable to read all the indignation from the supporters of a team who for the better part of 5 plus years knowingly employed a serial killer, aka Hernandez.
    ——————–
    I believe it’s laughable that you believe that NE knew it.

  45. amadorcountyca says: Jan 23, 2016 4:52 PM

    I can feel my IQ drop reading most of these comments.

  46. quinzze says: Jan 23, 2016 4:59 PM

    The Seahawks lost skhaw time to give it up. Focus on them instead of the Patriots it will make your life a lot less stressful. (P.S I still think your the guy on YouTube that ran into his TY after the Butler pick).

  47. dontletfactsgetintheway says: Jan 23, 2016 5:14 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 23, 2016 12:01 PM

    The Patriots had the commissioner cover-up their cheating during spygate, that’s a fact. The Patriots have been cheating for over a decade and you act like them being held accountable is them being victimized. That’s not the case, had Goodell handled spygate properly then nobody would have pushed for him to go heavy during deflategate.
    ___________________________________
    Here is something that you and so many others can’t through your jealous minds.
    This is from a NY Times story from 2007:
    NFL commissioner and former Jets public relations intern Rodger Goodell suggested that the responsibility was on teams to conceal their signals, not on the ones trying to steal them. During his news conference before the 2007 Super Bowl he said that any coach who did not expect signals to be stolen was “stupid.”

    Prior to 2006, every NFL team is assumed to have done it, but none of them broke a rule. You can’t punish something that is not prohibited. Filming from the sidelines was not prohibited until 2006 and filming your opponent’s signals from approved locations has never been prohibited, even today.

    Want more factsboy66, read the NY times story today on deflategate and go to you tube and search for John Madden spygate and Madden will tell how he and so many other coaches taped defensive signals.
    Time for you and so many others to stop acting like children and learn to accept defeat like adults. Oh, and by the way, all times have cheated. Then again, maybe crying cheater helps you feel better about yourself and your team!

  48. helmetcatch says: Jan 23, 2016 5:29 PM

    Shady Brady destroyed evidence. Cheating QB on a Cheating team.

  49. paulieorkid says: Jan 23, 2016 5:30 PM

    mullman76, I’m all for hard, PHYSICAL football to the echo of the whistle. If bones crack and brains get scrambled with CLEAN hits — that is part of the game, and a party I fully embrace.

    What I am not down with a team or a player going in planning to detonate on a QB well after the whistle for the purpose of detonating on the QB. That is weak.

    It’s the same with a fistfight. Sucker-punching someone who isn’t ready, ganging up 5 on 1, sticking a knife in his back, poisoning someone’s drink, etc. are all examples of what crosses the line.

    If you have a problem with someone, man up to him face-to-face — without sucker-punching or pulling surprise weapons or needing seven buddies to bail you out. “Winning” that way is not a triumph in my book. Apparently, it is in yours.

  50. dontletfactsgetintheway says: Jan 23, 2016 5:57 PM

    helmetcatch says:
    Jan 23, 2016 5:29 PM

    Shady Brady destroyed evidence. Cheating QB on a Cheating team.
    __________________________________
    I don’t know why I ask trolls like you but Ted Wells said he didn’t need the phone if Brady provided the phone records. At the appeal, Brady brought the phone records but Mr. Integrity Goodell wanted the phone yet jealous people like you ignore this. Also, a nickname in May, not during the season, is all the proof you have. Like I ask so many like you who use that excuse, how did the Colt’s footballs get below the legal PSI? Such a simple question yet people like you refuse to answer for some reason????

    Another FACT for people who think like you, Roger Goodell did not turn over his personal cell phone when the NFL was investigated in the Ray Rice cover up. More facts for jealous haters to ignore!!! Enjoy us in the Super Bowl AGAIN!

  51. youknowiknowitall says: Jan 23, 2016 6:03 PM

    helmetcatch THINKS that Shady Brady destroyed evidence …

    While we all KNOW that Brady has destroyed helmetcatch.

  52. ahs2 says: Jan 23, 2016 6:20 PM

    I wish they would just stop calling it “football”…it’s another sport entirely, softer and too politically correct.

  53. mrlaloosh says: Jan 23, 2016 6:41 PM

    To all you whiney Vikings fans. There was no bounty on Favre. Maybe the 5(FIVE!) turnovers had something to do with you losing? 3 fumbles near the goal line by that child abuser Adrian Peterson? And of course Farve throws an interception to end all hope. If Brad Childress could count to twelve you might have won…..

  54. Dave61548 says: Jan 23, 2016 6:42 PM

    joeybrownersgoonakickyourarse says:
    Jan 23, 2016 1:51 PM
    …..
    As a life long Vikings fan, I feel strongly that they not only cheated their way into what should have been our Superbowl, but that they ruined our next season too. The Ain’ts got most of what they had coming and I think its long past due that people stop crying about their punishment for the obvious evils they committed!

    True justice would have seen at least one of those forfeited picks given to the Vikings.

    *******************
    Spoken like a true crybaby Vikings fan. The Saints did not “cheat” – they played hard, and hit Favre when they could, which is what EVERY team does!

    Bountygate had nothing to do with the Vikings losing that game. 5 turnovers, 12 men on the field, poor decision making resulting in an interception….. that’s three things off the top of my head that actually were factors in that game. Bountygate was all about the NFL trying to look tough in the face of the concussion lawsuit.

  55. sidelinecameraman says: Jan 23, 2016 6:49 PM

    Sorry to suggest maim anyone deliberately shows a huge lack of character.

  56. h0metownzero says: Jan 23, 2016 7:21 PM

    That picture pretty well sums up the entire hapless and tasteless 50+ year history.

  57. breadmeatcheese says: Jan 23, 2016 8:30 PM

    the saints were actually publicly warned first.

  58. 3cupsanda6pack says: Jan 23, 2016 8:36 PM

    One day Brady Belicheat & Kraft will meet KARMA. It won’t be pretty. As for Sunday, hopefully the Broncos have had time to come up with a new playbook since well, you know about the Patriots.

  59. cinzano08 says: Jan 23, 2016 8:46 PM

    Bounty gate and deflate gate are not even close. Taking a star player out of a game is a definitive competitive advantage. Psi has never been and never will be a competive advantage for anyone no matter what the NFL says because this years performance disproved that erroneous conclusion.

  60. middy84 says: Jan 23, 2016 11:22 PM

    dontletfactsgetintheway | Jan 23, 2016, 2:14 PM PST
    factman66 says:
    Jan 23, 2016 12:01 PM

    The Patriots had the commissioner cover-up their cheating during spygate, that’s a fact. The Patriots have been cheating for over a decade and you act like them being held accountable is them being victimized. That’s not the case, had Goodell handled spygate properly then nobody would have pushed for him to go heavy during deflategate.
    ___________________________________
    Here is something that you and so many others can’t through your jealous minds.
    This is from a NY Times story from 2007:
    NFL commissioner and former Jets public relations intern Rodger Goodell suggested that the responsibility was on teams to conceal their signals, not on the ones trying to steal them. During his news conference before the 2007 Super Bowl he said that any coach who did not expect signals to be stolen was “stupid.”

    Prior to 2006, every NFL team is assumed to have done it, but none of them broke a rule. You can’t punish something that is not prohibited. Filming from the sidelines was not prohibited until 2006 and filming your opponent’s signals from approved locations has never been prohibited, even today.

    Want more factsboy66, read the NY times story today on deflategate and go to you tube and search for John Madden spygate and Madden will tell how he and so many other coaches taped defensive signals.
    Time for you and so many others to stop acting like children and learn to accept defeat like adults. Oh, and by the way, all times have cheated. Then again, maybe crying cheater helps you feel better about yourself and your team!

    helmetcatch | Jan 23, 2016, 2:29 PM PST
    What have you been smoking?
    Facts man was just speaking the truth
    Get your facts straight moron.

  61. fmc651 says: Jan 24, 2016 9:07 AM

    sidelinecameraman says:
    Jan 23, 2016 6:49 PM

    Sorry to suggest maim anyone deliberately shows a huge lack of character.

    )))))))))))))))))

    Now look at what Williams and the Saints. They not only suggested before the game the Saints did it.

  62. boobsmcgoo says: Jan 24, 2016 9:34 AM

    cinzano08 says:
    Jan 23, 2016 8:46 PM
    Bounty gate and deflate gate are not even close. Taking a star player out of a game is a definitive competitive advantage. Psi has never been and never will be a competive advantage for anyone no matter what the NFL says because this years performance disproved that erroneous conclusion.

    ——–
    If you look at the entire Saints season in 2009, they never took any star player out of any game. Favre never missed a down in that game. The NFL never proved anything in either “gate” and the players suspended in both cases had their suspensions overturned. Like the author here says, wait until your team is in the cross hairs of this league, we’ll see how high and mighty you are. This league….

  63. fmc651 says: Jan 24, 2016 9:49 AM

    packer fans calling Vikings fans whiners because the Saints got away with targeting Favre. For the second straight year the that fan base is whining about how their offense didn’t get a chance in OT. Resulting in another OT playoff loss for the packers. Those fans need to look at their defense as to why that is and not blame the NFL rules.smh.

  64. fmc651 says: Jan 24, 2016 9:58 AM

    Coincidentally, the Browns, Lions and the packers have the exact same number of OT game playoff victories this decade isn’t that right Hometownzero.

  65. jag1959 says: Jan 24, 2016 12:21 PM

    skawh says:
    Jan 23, 2016 3:53 PM
    It’s laughable to read all the indignation from the supporters of a team who for the better part of 5 plus years knowingly employed a serial killer, aka Hernandez.
    _________________________

    Onca again 12’s show nothing is beneath them

  66. 87hollywoodhorn says: Jan 24, 2016 1:48 PM

    Bountygate was bs, the saints werent cheating and none of those hits was a missed penalty.

    the patriots on the other hand did cheat. they were playing with a flat ball, you cant fumble those.

    the patriots got off and the saints had 2012 robbed from them cuz of media bias. The media came rushing to Brady aid and made the Saints look like some backwater 3rd world criminal organization.

    Srsly look at Vilma vs NFL and Brady vs NFL and how the media treated it. Racist

  67. vikingcheesegrater says: Jan 24, 2016 1:52 PM

    Hey Kanell, here’s a novel concept for you: How about beating a team just by being better than the players your opponent puts out on the field?

    If you have to win a game by beating the team’s reserves…you are a LOSER, regardless of what the scoreboard says when time runs out.

    Bountygate was, and still is, a disgrace to the sport, and to the Saints team that participated in it.

    Funny, when I was playing sports, it never occurred to me to injure the opponent. I just wanted to play better than he did and beat him with superior skill.

  68. Mr. Wright 212 says: Jan 24, 2016 7:00 PM

    So much for a blowout win by New England, huh?

  69. jpspear says: Jan 24, 2016 10:28 PM

    Let’s see…number of players the NFL showed the Saints injured intentionally…zero…number of Saints players the NFL showed took a payment for intentionally hurting a player…zero…number of Roughing calls the NFL said they missed in the NFCC…1 (it happens)…rank of Saints for Personal Fouls during the BountyFarce period…2nd fewest…number of times Gregg Williams mentioned a bounty program or payoffs during the infamous tirade before the SF playoff game…zero. Tagliabue’s actions pretty much proved Goodell had nothing.

  70. whatjusthapped says: Jan 24, 2016 10:42 PM

    No matter what the Saints did to Favre, Chilly still sent 12 men into the huddle and Peterson still fumbled 3 times. 12 men and the 3 fumbles had a lot more impact on the game than anything else.

  71. filthymcnasty3 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:33 AM

    Pictures of hapless and tasteless Viking players crawling around on all 4’s makes me laugh.

  72. ktm300xcwe says: Jan 25, 2016 12:54 PM

    I distinctly recall three plays in a row that ended in late hit on the QB penalties in that game. Three in a row!? At some point the intent to do damage becomes obvious and somebody needs to be ejected to get the rest of the players’ attention. The Refs just let that bullsheet play out on the field.

    The damage they did that day just might effect the rest of Favre’s life, and certainly damaged his capabilities the last season of his career.

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    It was the same Saints team that ended Kurt Warner’s career a week earlier, and it has been said cheap shots on Manning is what led to his neck surgeries. That makes THREE Hall of Fame QBs that Defense and Greg Williams took out.

  73. ktm300xcwe says: Jan 25, 2016 1:00 PM

    No matter what the Saints did to Favre, Chilly still sent 12 men into the huddle and Peterson still fumbled 3 times. 12 men and the 3 fumbles had a lot more impact on the game than anything else.

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    AP did not fumble 3 times. He fumbled twice, losing one. Favre had one, Berrian and Harvin each had one, and Reynuad had on too. Just the facts.

  74. CallingYouOut says: Jan 25, 2016 4:31 PM

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    The biggest problem with bountygate is that the illegal hits on Favre weren’t called. Had they been the Saints never make it to the Superbowl. High/Low hits were a point of emphasis that year and was not called when the Vikings were driving to put the game away. Call the illegal hits and teams will found out targeting the QB will cost them the game, not win it….

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    Gene Steratore – he orchestrates games, he does not officiate them. The NFC Champioship game in ’09 is only one example in a long list of games that have been botched by he and his crew.

  75. jpspear says: Jan 25, 2016 4:57 PM

    The NFL reviewed the game. They missed one call and it was the high/low hit on the interception. Evidently the first call ever missed according to the Vikings. Neither Favre or Warner had any complaints about how the Saints played. Warner specifically said the perfectly legal hit had nothing to do with his retirement decision. Saints over the BountyFarce period caused the second-fewest injuries in the league. You can look it up. And they barely touched Manning. Just the facts.

  76. nonyt says: Jan 25, 2016 11:36 PM

    “It was the same Saints team that ended Kurt Warner’s career a week earlier, and it has been said cheap shots on Manning is what led to his neck surgeries. That makes THREE Hall of Fame QBs that Defense and Greg Williams took out.”

    That’s a load of crap. Kurt Warner had no complaints about what the Saints did and said his retirement had nothing to do with that game. As for Manning the Saints barely touched him.
    The biggest flaw with the Bountygate bull was there was no evidence. Nothing but accusation and innuendo. Spare me the crap about what the Saints defense did to the QBs. If they didn’t want Farve to get hit they should have protected him.

  77. Norseman says: Jan 26, 2016 9:09 AM

    Disagree with the premise of this story, which is that because teams have the incentive to knock other teams players out of the game, the NFL should not single-out a team for flagrant violations.

    We all know the Saints team under Greg Williams were paid extra to knock players out. They took a big hit themselves from the league for doing so. Makes sense to me.

    The other aspect of this is the officials. In the Vikings-Saints game there should have been more personal fouls called against the Saints, but they let it go. Had they not done so, the incentive for unnecessary roughness would have been much different, as it would increase the chances of the Vikings scoring by moving them 15 yards down the field.

    Had the officials enforced the rules, the outcome of that game would have been different, and the Saints tactics would have failed. That would’ve also been a disincentive for other teams to pursue the same tactics.

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