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Report: Vikings hire Pat Shurmur

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It was something of a surprise last week when word broke that the Vikings would be interviewing Pat Shurmur for a spot on Mike Zimmer’s staff because open running backs coach position didn’t seem like a fit for the former Eagles offensive coordinator and interim head coach.

The lack of a clear fit doesn’t look like it was a stumbling block in their conversation, however. Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reports that Shurmur has agreed to take a job in Minnesota for the 2016 season.

There’s no word on title or responsibilities for Shurmur at this point, but there’s a pretty clear message being sent by Zimmer this offseason that he wants to see more from the offense than they achieved in 2015. Offensive coordinator Norv Turner has been joined by Shurmur and offensive line coach Tony Sparano, giving the Vikings three coaches with experience as both head coaches and offensive coordinators after finishing 29th in yards last season.

The passing game held more responsibility for that ranking and a role in that area may be in Shurmur’s future given his past as a quarterbacks coach.

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  1. dolphins4 says: Jan 24, 2016 9:17 AM

    Pat Shurmur is a great coach and a great addition to the Vikings.

  2. bernieknowsfootball says: Jan 24, 2016 9:19 AM

    There’s a step backward !!!

  3. pervyspankspackfans says: Jan 24, 2016 9:43 AM

    Good hire. Shurmur is smart to get on this speeding locomotive. New stadium. Great young players. Top head coach. Vikings are a hot ticket, should only get better.

  4. pftbro says: Jan 24, 2016 9:52 AM

    All the progress you Vikings made last year? And you hire this guy?

  5. squeakywheeler says: Jan 24, 2016 9:53 AM

    As long as they have Teddy & that group of receivers, I don’t care who they hire. It will end up as a “they are what they are” situation.

    Maybe 4 for 1 Cordarrelle Patterson can figure out how to run a route after 3 or 4 years now. We know he knows how to celebrate being down 34-0.

    Get a few receivers to go with Diggs. Get a new tight end & another really good lineman. The O-Coordinator might be able to work with that. After that, if that doesn’t work, then Teddy is not “the guy”.

  6. purplepride11 says: Jan 24, 2016 9:55 AM

    Best coaching staff in the league.

  7. zerotrophiessince1961 says: Jan 24, 2016 9:58 AM

    2 points:

    1. LOL at the Vikings for going after ex-Packers AGAIN.

    2. The problem with the Minnesota offense isn’t coaching. It’s talent – specifically at the QB position. (And across the OL) It’s going to be a lot of fun watching the Vikes flounder as Teddy proves he is not a franchise QB.

  8. pftbro says: Jan 24, 2016 10:08 AM

    Good Gawd! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  9. mnjoemama says: Jan 24, 2016 10:20 AM

    Pack have zero athletes except Rodgers , look at clay trying to tackle Larry or that o line , not to mention Jake from State Farm playing MLB . Skol Vikes

  10. allight59 says: Jan 24, 2016 10:25 AM

    Passing up a bigger role on another team to play for a winning coach, winning team and winning organization…who can blame him. Zimmer has defense turned around, now the offense…Packers won’t win a division championship for the next decade….

  11. bondlake says: Jan 24, 2016 10:25 AM

    Bridgewater is a mediocre QB at best.

    The Vikes brought in Mike Wallace last year and Pro Football Talk touted that he would stretch the field for TB, blah, blah, blah. Well, that didn’t work.

    No amount of QB coaching, etc., will change TB from what he is: An average QB, at best.

  12. ReligionIsForIdiots says: Jan 24, 2016 10:38 AM

    Loser coach for a loser franchise.

    Wide left you lose again.

  13. fartweasel says: Jan 24, 2016 10:52 AM

    I forget packer trolls, who won the nfc north title this year?

  14. mnfaninil says: Jan 24, 2016 10:54 AM

    I said it on Friday when the report came out about Shurmur interviewing with the Vikings, that a big change was coming. Since the playoff loss the Vikings have now hired two former head coaches to work with the offense, both of which have been successful offensive coordinators. Its abundantly clear to anyone paying attention that the lights are turning out on Norv and his son. You don’t let the offense and your franchise QB take a step backwards without consequences. Zimmer is not going to accept being the worst passing team in the NFL.

    The announcement is coming that Norv is moving on or retiring. Shurmur is the new OC in MN.

  15. dukeearl says: Jan 24, 2016 11:01 AM

    fartweasel says:
    Jan 24, 2016 10:52 AM
    I forget packer trolls, who won the nfc north title this year?
    *************************
    Pretty sure wide left will be remembered longer than who won the meaningless regular season title.
    Caveat, I am not a fan of either team.

  16. filthymcnasty3 says: Jan 24, 2016 11:15 AM

    With Bruce Irvin calling Teddy Bridgewater out as a coward, I’m not sure what Shurmur can do without a complete rebuild on offense. They have no confidence.

  17. housemusic1200 says: Jan 24, 2016 11:16 AM

    Man it comical. You can’t make this stuff up. A coach gets hired in MN, and the GB trolls show up in this thread talking about wide left. We’re over it, but you guys can’t let it go. Yep, it was a crappy way to lose a hard fought game. However, I would rather watch my team lose on a shanked FG, than watch my defense completely implode in OT, after converting an improbable hail mary. But, that’s not a choke…. Right?

  18. fansince68 says: Jan 24, 2016 11:25 AM

    First off, winning the division is never meaningless. Unless it isn’t your football team. Kickers miss and teams lose. Ask Buffalo fans. What can you do?

    Zimmer hasn’t put his foot in his mouth yet, and I don’t expect him to start now. Turner will be back, and the rest will go to plan. We don’t know the plan. More players needed; especially on the OL. How Minnesota went 11-6 with *this* offensive line (it was truly offensive) shows the team’s fight.

    The jury is out on TB, in the overall sense of his career, but he has a winning record, is still very young, and has a great attitude. The team is being run with a no nonsense approach. That’s bad news for GB and everyone else. Ahead of schedule too.

  19. mnfaninil says: Jan 24, 2016 11:33 AM

    GB fans are cute. They are like wild baby kittens clinging to life, but lashing out at everyone around them. Your team is in free fall, the decent back into the depths 70s and 80s obscurity has begun. Better sell your stock cause it isn’t worth the paper its printed on. This is our division again, get used to it.

  20. zerotrophiessince1961 says: Jan 24, 2016 11:40 AM

    fartweasel
    Jan 24, 2016, 9:52 AM CST
    I forget packer trolls, who won the nfc north title this year?
    ———————-
    Minny did. Barely. Against the only Packer offense to finish out of the top 10 since 2006. With a young group headlined by a HOF QB, that ain’t happening again. So congrats. I guess.

    Like I said before, it’s gonna be a lot of fun to watch Minny fans panic when they see that GB has another 5-7 years of division dominance and annual Super Bowl contention with ARod and that TB is not the answer.

  21. filthymcnasty3 says: Jan 24, 2016 11:57 AM

    Viking fans can’t be bothered with winning playoff games. Their season was a success because they finally beat the Packers once, and managed to split the season. It was the pinnacle moment of their sad lives.

  22. billbrasky72 says: Jan 24, 2016 12:00 PM

    I think Norv is on his way out. His offense isn’t the best fit for the personnel. Mainly, the O-line can’t hold up long enough in pass pro to allow his routes to develop. Vikings have had the most success this year when Norv called shorter, west coast style routes. Also, the run and pass games were not very complimatary. At times they just fed the ball to AD whether it wss working or not. Other times they just abandoned him. I think they are transitioning to a west coast offense that does a much better job of keeping opposing defenses on their toes.

  23. clear2me says: Jan 24, 2016 12:03 PM

    Let’s see now. TB lead a team that finished higher than the Arron (@hailmary) Rodgers Pack and TB is therefore mediocre at best? The Packer fans that come on this site never seem to see anything that’s wrong with their own team (and that includes some owners and their worthless little piece of paper.) Vikings fans can look forward to success in the future while Packer backers only have ancient history as their crutch.

  24. zerotrophiessince1961 says: Jan 24, 2016 12:07 PM

    You know what else is going to be fun next year for fans of the 14x World Champion Green Bay Packers?

    Seeing Peterson get old before our eyes and Teddy panic because teams aren’t keying on the best running back in a generation anymore. No more 8 man boxes means that the already pathetic Vikings passing game is going to fall from terrible to laughable next year.

    >

  25. gtodriver says: Jan 24, 2016 12:12 PM

    zerotrophiessince1961 says:

    Minny did. Barely. Against the only Packer offense to finish out of the top 10 since 2006. With a young group headlined by a HOF QB, that ain’t happening again. So congrats. I guess.
    ******************

    Just Barely? Was there a need for a tie breaker? If there had been, after a week 17 Viking win over the Packers, it would have been the best division record.

    Vikings were 5 – 1 in the Division. Packers were swept at home for a 3 – 3.

    Rodgers most like is going to be a HOF QB, but he isn’t “young”. He also wasn’t the QB in 2006 or 2007, so why are you talking about that?

    Rodgers had the worst season of his career in 2015. Worst year for total yards, worst year for completion percentage and worst year for QB rating.

    And don’t try to blame that on dropped passes as that’s been a bogus claim all year.

    The Packers were in the middle of the pack (pun intended – they were 15th) in dropped passes with 4.1%. Philly had the most with 6% and Baltimore was the lowest with 2.2%.

    And funny, in 2014, the Packers had more dropped passes than this year – 4.5%…😉

    Rodgers decline has started…😀

  26. marttizzle says: Jan 24, 2016 12:19 PM

    zerotrophiessince1961 says:
    Jan 24, 2016 11:40 AM

    Pretty sure wide left will be remembered longer than who won the meaningless regular season title.
    Caveat, I am not a fan of either team.
    ——————————————————————–That is why we will be hanging a 2015 banner from our new stadium to remind everyone that we came into Greenbay’s house and beat them for DIVISION CHAMPS.

    Say what you want to say but the crap GB fan’s were saying about MN being the worst team in the division during training camp came in and owned the division! We had the better record, better division record and you have to beat us if you want back the division title. Vikings up Greenbay down!

  27. middy84 says: Jan 24, 2016 12:19 PM

    What a relief!!! I was hoping the Rams would not sign this boring unimaginative coach. He deserves to be with a losing franchise like the Vikes.

  28. gtodriver says: Jan 24, 2016 12:19 PM

    zerotrophiessince1961 says:

    You know what else is going to be fun next year for fans of the 14x World Champion Green Bay Packers?

    Seeing Peterson get old before our eyes and Teddy panic because teams aren’t keying on the best running back in a generation anymore.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Hey xero… You want to recount your “Championships”?

    Notice I didn’t say World Championships, so that you could count the years when you claimed a title over the little sisters of the poor…

    Teddy won as many games in his rookie season, in only 12 starts, as Rodgers did in his 4th year in the league with 16 starts.

    And Teddy did it without AP.

    After 2 seasons, Teddy has as many wins as Rodgers had in 5.

    Just the facts…😀

  29. jo6pack says: Jan 24, 2016 12:21 PM

    LOL geeze you can tell how insecure some packer fans are about next year

  30. fmc651 says: Jan 24, 2016 12:39 PM

    Cute Tokyo you have another handle zerotrophysince1961. See if your new RB coach can guard the fridge better than the last for Eddie Lazy.

  31. fmc651 says: Jan 24, 2016 12:45 PM

    Coincidentally, the Browns, Lions and the packers have the exact same number of OT game playoff victories this decade

  32. dwhitehurst says: Jan 24, 2016 12:52 PM

    Vikings have improved, for sure. Just as the Packers have declined a bit. But some objective questions for the next couple seasons are how high the Vikings ceiling is? Does TB have what it takes? As for Packers, as long as they have a healthy Rodgers, they’ll give the Vikings a run for their money when it comes to winning the Division, as could the Bears if they successfully rebuild. But can any team from the NFC North win the big one in the next couple of seasons? I wouldnt bet on it.

  33. shaggytoodle says: Jan 24, 2016 1:15 PM

    fansince68 says:
    Jan 24, 2016 11:25 AM
    First off, winning the division is never meaningless. Unless it isn’t your football team. Kickers miss and teams lose. Ask Buffalo fans. What can you do?
    ___________

    It is when you use it the way Vikings fans are trying to here… they are trying to say they had a better season than GB yet they didn’t win any playoff games…. I’ll take post season wins over division titles any time.

  34. zerotrophiessince1961 says: Jan 24, 2016 1:17 PM

    gtodriver says:
    Jan 24, 2016 12:12 PM

    Rodgers decline has started… 😀
    ———————-

    LOL. Vikings fans are so ridiculous. When has a 31 year old QB EVER been on a decline? You’ve got a WHILE to wait yet before that happens.

    This year was an exception. Lapping up your Viking tears next year is going to be so delicious.

  35. zerotrophiessince1961 says: Jan 24, 2016 1:23 PM

    Hey GTO –

    If you don’t want to count (legitimate) trophies since before your precious Vikings were around (because obviously, existence on this planet as we know it only started when Minniesoda got an expansion franchise), fine.

    GB still has 4. You still have 0.
    😀

  36. dukeearl says: Jan 24, 2016 1:27 PM

    fansince68 says:
    Jan 24, 2016 11:25 AM
    First off, winning the division is never meaningless. Unless it isn’t your football team. Kickers miss and teams lose. Ask Buffalo fans. What can you do?
    ********************
    Congratulations, winning the division got you a game against the Seahawks at home. Your team then proceeded to “wide left” their chance at moving on further in the playoffs.

    So actually it was less than meaningless.

  37. dukeearl says: Jan 24, 2016 1:29 PM

    zerotrophiessince1961 says:
    Jan 24, 2016 1:17 PM
    gtodriver says:
    Jan 24, 2016 12:12 PM

    Rodgers decline has started… 😀
    ———————-

    LOL. Vikings fans are so ridiculous. When has a 31 year old QB EVER been on a decline? You’ve got a WHILE to wait yet before that happens.

    This year was an exception. Lapping up your Viking tears next year is going to be so delicious.
    **********************
    One of Aaron’s worst seasons. He will still have good seasons. He will not longer be at the top though. So decline is accurate.

  38. fmc651 says: Jan 24, 2016 1:31 PM

    Enough packer trolls you beat the 9-7 Washington team. The worst team in the NFC playoffs. Way to beat your chest about playing one more game in the playoffs than the Vikings.

  39. mediasloppy says: Jan 24, 2016 1:39 PM

    Just as long as everyone knows their role and keeps their ego in check things should be progressing in Minnesota.

  40. packertruth says: Jan 24, 2016 1:45 PM

    pervyspankspackfans says:
    Jan 24, 2016 9:43 AM

    Good hire. Shurmur is smart to get on this speeding locomotive. New stadium. Great young players. Top head coach. Vikings are a hot ticket, should only get better.
    _________________________

    Top head coach? Since 1998 teams that have employed Mike Zimmer have made the playoffs nine times. And lost nine times. While winning zero times….

    18 seasons, nine consecutive one-and-dones for Zimmer’s squads.

    Good defensive coach yes, but maybe wait to promote him to the echelon of “top head coach” until he actually wins a playoff game.

  41. vikingdoode says: Jan 24, 2016 1:52 PM

    Clear message to Norv…Im the boss do something

  42. thevikingdefender says: Jan 24, 2016 1:57 PM

    Hey packer fans… Vikings were the better team this year. Get over it.

  43. gtodriver says: Jan 24, 2016 1:58 PM

    Hey zero….

    Rodgers is 32 and will turn 33 during this coming season.

    Sad how little Packer fans know about their favorite player.

    They know even less about football….😀

  44. packertruth says: Jan 24, 2016 2:19 PM

    fmc651 says:
    Jan 24, 2016 12:45 PM

    Coincidentally, the Browns, Lions and the packers have the exact same number of OT game playoff victories this decade
    ——————————
    Coincidentally, that total matches the playoff victories that teams employing Mike Zimmer have this CENTURY.

  45. vikegang says: Jan 24, 2016 2:29 PM

    My guess: Norv will become Assoc. HC and RB coach. Pat will take over as offensive coordinator.

  46. 440Barracuda says: Jan 24, 2016 2:35 PM

    filthymcnasty3 says:
    Jan 24, 2016 11:57 AM
    Viking fans can’t be bothered with winning playoff games. Their season was a success because they finally beat the Packers once, and managed to split the season. It was the pinnacle moment of their sad lives.

    ——————————————–

    Still better than trolling posts on Viking news feeds being the pinnacle moment of your so called life.

  47. zerotrophiessince1961 says: Jan 24, 2016 3:06 PM

    Fine GTO. He’s 32. Who cares? He’ll still be in his prime as a QB for the next 5 years at least. Meanwhile, your only good offensive player is an over 30 running back.

    Who’s declining again?

  48. tjacks7 says: Jan 24, 2016 3:15 PM

    packertruth says:

    Top head coach? Since 1998 teams that have employed Mike Zimmer have made the playoffs nine times. And lost nine times. While winning zero times….

    18 seasons, nine consecutive one-and-dones for Zimmer’s squads.

    Google “head coach”… You clearly don’t know what one is.

  49. frank booth says: Jan 24, 2016 3:20 PM

    gtodriver says:
    Jan 24, 2016 12:19 PM

    zerotrophiessince1961 says:

    You know what else is going to be fun next year for fans of the 14x World Champion Green Bay Packers?

    Seeing Peterson get old before our eyes and Teddy panic because teams aren’t keying on the best running back in a generation anymore.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Hey xero… You want to recount your “Championships”?

    Notice I didn’t say World Championships, so that you could count the years when you claimed a title over the little sisters of the poor…

    Teddy won as many games in his rookie season, in only 12 starts, as Rodgers did in his 4th year in the league with 16 starts.

    And Teddy did it without AP.

    After 2 seasons, Teddy has as many wins as Rodgers had in 5.

    Just the facts… 😀
    ==================================
    But if you wanted to count NFL Championships from when the Vikings came into the league and then Super Bowl Championships through last year, the Packers would have 7, the Bears would have 2, and the Vikings would have 0, no matter how you counted the Bears and Packers previous championships.

    Of course, the Bears and Packers were integral in the formation of the NFL. The Vikings franchise rode in on their coattails.

    Remember, the Vikings’ success over the last two years is attributable to an improved defense over the past 2 seasons, not a QB who throws 14 TD’s per year.

    The Vikings improved by 2 wins in 2014 because their defense went from last to 13th. Bridgewater led the 4th worst passing offense in the league in 2014.

    And they picked up 4 more wins in 2015 because they improved to a Top 5 defense and the top rusher in the league, not because Teddy Bridgewater threw 8 of his 14 TD passes against the Bears and the Lions. Bridgewater lead the second worst passing offense in the league in 2015.

    And if you want to compare QB’s, probably best to compare them over their seasons as starters. But as I’ve said a million times before, it makes no sense to compare QB’s over their first couple of years, but when they have put together a somewhat comprehensive body of work.

    In Rodgers first two seasons as a starter he threw 58 TD’s to Bridgewater’s 28.

    In his first 28 games, Bridgewater is 17-11. Rodgers was 14-14. Rodgers has gone on to a very good career, including a Super Bowl victory in his third season as a starter.

    In his first playoff game, Bridgewater threw for 99 yards and 0 TD’s in a loss. His defense gave up 10 points. All of the scoring was on the kicker, since Bridgewater couldn’t get his team into the end zone.

    In his first playoff game, Rodgers threw for 423 yards and 4 TD’s. He rushed for another one. His defense gave up 51 points and they lost, 51-45.

    Just the facts.

  50. packertruth says: Jan 24, 2016 3:54 PM

    Google “head coach”… You clearly don’t know what one is.
    ____________________
    ok Pervy, you’re top head coach is 0-1 in the playoffs lifetime. Top? you clearly don’t know what one is.

  51. lambeaudungbarn says: Jan 24, 2016 3:55 PM

    zerotrophiessince1961 says:
    Jan 24, 2016 9:58 AM

    2 points:

    1. LOL at the Vikings for going after ex-Packers AGAIN.

    2. The problem with the Minnesota offense isn’t coaching. It’s talent – specifically at the QB position. (And across the OL) It’s going to be a lot of fun watching the Vikes flounder as Teddy proves he is not a franchise QB.
    ======================================================================
    But they were still good enough to beat your Packers!
    With the feud between McCarthy and Thompson, Rodgers throwing his Offensive players under the bus.. ME THINKS you packer fans had better save your trollish posts because you will need them after your Packers fall to 3rd in the Division and your HC
    gets fired! The Minnesota Vikings Dynasty Begins

  52. shaggytoodle says: Jan 24, 2016 4:02 PM

    dukeearl says:
    Jan 24, 2016 1:27 PM
    Congratulations, winning the division got you a game against the Seahawks at home. Your team then proceeded to “wide left” their chance at moving on further in the playoffs.

    So actually it was less than meaningless
    ___________

    I guess when your favorite team has never won it all, its really easy to dismiss playoff victories… no team that has ever lost the wild card has went to win the Super Bowl. Teams have won the Superbowl without winning their division.

  53. gtodriver says: Jan 24, 2016 4:10 PM

    Frank

    So what you’re telling me is:

    1. Teddy won more games in his first 28 games than Rodgers.

    2. Teddy has just as many playoff starts in two years as Rodgers had in five.

    3. Teddy has won just as many playoff wins in two years as Rodgers has in five.

    Thanks for pointing that out.

  54. purpleguy says: Jan 24, 2016 5:30 PM

    Huh, wonder what this means for Norv?

    Give the cheesers a break Vikings fans — they just don’t quite know how to react now that there’s a team in the NFCN that can actually threaten their team. Well, I take that back — I do know — they bring up their moldy old championship cracks, whine about their team’s injuries, and make lame predictions for next year.

  55. greenbaylibrarybreathalyzer says: Jan 24, 2016 5:39 PM

    Packer trolls, you make me laugh hysterically…..

    At you and your choker team.

    Really, nothing can beat the discount double choke of 2015….13 pt lead with 3 min to go….and LOSE.

    Then, after a forfeit win against the worst defense in the league in Washington you fight back and get lucky and tie it up.

    Only to let Minnesota kid and admitted Packer hater Larry Fitz beat you down silly. Ha ha.

    Almost as poetic as the NCAA BB championship game where another MN kid, Tyus Jones from Duke, another Wisconsin hater daggers your Badgers in the final minutes.

    Wisconsin, there’s your DAGGER. Now go lay down by your dish.

  56. frank booth says: Jan 24, 2016 5:47 PM

    gtodriver says:
    Jan 24, 2016 4:10 PM

    Frank

    So what you’re telling me is:

    1. Teddy won more games in his first 28 games than Rodgers.

    2. Teddy has just as many playoff starts in two years as Rodgers had in five.

    3. Teddy has won just as many playoff wins in two years as Rodgers has in five.

    Thanks for pointing that out.
    ==================================
    What I’m telling you is that comparing players over seasons where one has played and one hasn’t is completely useless. Any sensible person would understand this. Had Rodgers started at the beginning of his career, he may have played better than Bridgewater. Or worse. We’ll never know. No point in comparing them right now.

    Rodgers gets compared with guys like Brees, Manning, and Brady.

    Bridgewater is in the lower echelon right now. Compare him to young QB’s like Bortles and Carr in his draft class. QB’s who move their teams but have poor defenses, hence the poor record.

    Compared to anyone, Bridgewater isn’t one of the more highly regarded QB’s in the league right now. He has a lot to prove. He hasn’t changed from season 1 to season 2. Only his defense has.

  57. frank booth says: Jan 24, 2016 6:55 PM

    clear2me says:
    Jan 24, 2016 12:03 PM

    Let’s see now. TB lead a team that finished higher than the Arron (@hailmary) Rodgers Pack and TB is therefore mediocre at best? The Packer fans that come on this site never seem to see anything that’s wrong with their own team (and that includes some owners and their worthless little piece of paper.) Vikings fans can look forward to success in the future while Packer backers only have ancient history as their crutch.
    ==================================
    The Vikings were led by the league’s leading rusher and the defense, not by a QB who led the leagues 2nd worst passing offense, who threw 8 of his 14 TD passes in 4 games against the Bears and Lions, and didn’t throw a TD pass in 6 games.

    They were led by defense in the playoff game, not by a QB who could muster only 99 yards and couldn’t get his team into the endzone, leaving it all on a kicker to win or lose.

    Speaking of histories, I can see why the Vikings’ fans hate it. All there is are colossal losses and a waste of Hall-of-Famers, a QB with a 14.1 rating in a SB game, and an HOF head coach with a losing playoff record.

  58. gtodriver says: Jan 24, 2016 8:41 PM

    Frank says:

    What I’m telling you is that comparing players over seasons where one has played and one hasn’t is completely useless. Any sensible person would understand this.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    And what I’m telling you is that when a player is in the NFL for 3 years learning his teams offense and actually getting some playing time he has an advantage and should perform better than a young rookie.

    Rodgers took over for a 13 – 3 team that made the NFC Championship game. He turned that into a 6 – 10 season in his first year.

    Teddy took over a team that went 5 – 10 – 1 the year before. He only started 12 games in his rookie season and won 6 games. It was the teams first year in a new offense and defense.

    Teddy did just as much as Rodgers, with far less experience and talent around him.

    Rodgers should have been able to do better with the better team, extra maturity and his 4th year in the Packer offense.

    But he didn’t.

  59. zerotrophiessince1961 says: Jan 24, 2016 8:53 PM

    I love it when Vikings fans get owned by logic. They still don’t listen, but hey, one can only keep trying to break through the purple idiocy.

  60. lindacaseauthor says: Jan 24, 2016 9:50 PM

    fartweasel says:
    Jan 24, 2016 10:52 AM
    I forget packer trolls, who won the nfc north title this year?
    ————–
    According to the cheesebrains, the division title means nothing this year because their team didn’t win it. What a pile of major crap–What a PACK of losers.

  61. frank booth says: Jan 24, 2016 10:12 PM

    gtodriver says:
    Jan 24, 2016 8:41 PM

    Frank says:

    What I’m telling you is that comparing players over seasons where one has played and one hasn’t is completely useless. Any sensible person would understand this.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    And what I’m telling you is that when a player is in the NFL for 3 years learning his teams offense and actually getting some playing time he has an advantage and should perform better than a young rookie.

    Rodgers took over for a 13 – 3 team that made the NFC Championship game. He turned that into a 6 – 10 season in his first year.

    Teddy took over a team that went 5 – 10 – 1 the year before. He only started 12 games in his rookie season and won 6 games. It was the teams first year in a new offense and defense.

    Teddy did just as much as Rodgers, with far less experience and talent around him.

    Rodgers should have been able to do better with the better team, extra maturity and his 4th year in the Packer offense.

    But he didn’t.
    ==================================
    Yeah, he did actually. There was barely any change in offensive stats between him coming in and Favre leaving. Rodgers was 4th in TD’s and yards in his first season starting. The issue was that the defense gave up 90 points more than is did in the previous year. The offense only dropped by a point per game. Rodgers, with his scores on the ground, actually accounted for 24 more points than Favre in the prior year, and Rodgers had less INT’s

    When Bridgewater came in, passing stats dropped and the offense scored 66 less points than in the prior year. The key was that the Vikings D gave up 137 points less than they did in the prior year.

    Rodgers was better in his first season starting in both relative and absolute terms.

  62. In Teddy We Trust says: Jan 25, 2016 12:17 AM

    After watching the games today, it was abundantly clear that any quarterback is going to look bad when you put pressure on him. Brady, Manning, and Palmer are highly successful veterans, but they were harassed all day and they all looked bad. This tells me that the key to getting the Vikings’ offense turned around is to fix that offensive line. Teddy was under pressure constantly this season and that is going to wreck your whole offense. Fix the offensive line and all these coaches will look like geniuses.

  63. frank booth says: Jan 25, 2016 12:38 AM

    In Teddy We Trust says:
    Jan 25, 2016 12:17 AM

    After watching the games today, it was abundantly clear that any quarterback is going to look bad when you put pressure on him. Brady, Manning, and Palmer are highly successful veterans, but they were harassed all day and they all looked bad. This tells me that the key to getting the Vikings’ offense turned around is to fix that offensive line. Teddy was under pressure constantly this season and that is going to wreck your whole offense. Fix the offensive line and all these coaches will look like geniuses.
    ==================================
    Vikings’ fans have been overrating the Vikings’ O-line problems all season. Pro Football Focus has the Vikings pass-blocking rated 16th. Joe Berger turned out to be a real find and the Vikings didn’t lose anything between him and Sullivan.

    There are plenty of worse lines with better performing QB’s. The problem isn’t with the line as much as it is Bridgewater. My guess is that the coaches aren’t making every excuse for Bridgewater’s poor performance, and are working on making him a better QB.

  64. haraldsigurdson says: Jan 25, 2016 3:05 AM

    The protection issues were a huge problem this year when combined with Teddy’s lack of NFL experience. Rome wasn’t built in a day, Favre was pretty mediocre too, when he first got a starting job, as were most other QBs that made it to the Hall of Fame.

    Remember, too, that this was the first time Turner and Bridgewater had been able to see how their offense would work with Peterson playing a full season. It took several games to figure out how best to incorporate Peterson, Zimmer even admitted that they probably should have given Peterson some reps in the pre-season.

    All that aside, every season evolves from week to week as teams sort through injuries, young players gain experience, and as teams try to adjust their schemes to challenge their opponents. A team can play very differently from Week One to Week Four, to Week Nine, etc.

    Bottom line, the Vikings played well enough to win eleven times this season, they clearly were doing some things right.

    Too many people criticize offensive coaches for trying hard to establish the running game with Peterson. How is it common sense that the right way to use the most accomplished running back in the NFL is to not give him the ball?

    In ’98 the Vikes scored more points than any previous NFL team in history, and when Billick went to be the head coach of the Ravens, people said, “Oh good, he really held back the offense this year.”

  65. filthymcnasty3 says: Jan 25, 2016 8:47 AM

    I think the world knew the magnitude of Bridgewater’s problems once Bruce Irvin called him out for being a coward.

  66. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Jan 25, 2016 12:46 PM

    I’m not sure he’s a great fit, does he even have a son that they could put on the coaching staff?

  67. purplepackerhater says: Jan 25, 2016 12:48 PM

    Packer troll obsess over TB because they are afraid. Teddy is 23 years old. He didn’t get the luxury of learning behind a top QB for multiple years. He’s made mistakes, but he’s learning from them and the most important stat is wins and he does that very well.

    You can chalk that up to the Defense if you want, but there are plenty of good defenses out there that didn’t make the playoffs. Good Quarterbacks elevate those around them and give their teammates confidence. The Vikings players have confidence in Teddy and so they play that much harder/better because of it. Good Head coaches do the same and get the same result. Defense as well. It’s a domino effect, each unit feeds of the other and no unit is asked to carry the team. TB did/does exactly what is asked of him and limits mistakes.

    Years from now no one will remember the Packers beat the Redskins in the wildcard round, but they will remember and can see every day the NFC north Division Championship Banner flying at US bank stadium.

  68. filthymcnasty3 says: Jan 25, 2016 1:13 PM

    You people sure love your participant ribbons.

  69. mnfaninil says: Jan 25, 2016 2:35 PM

    Wow, very surprised he signed with MN as only a TE coach, didn’t see that coming. Seems over qualified, but gives the Vikings some very knowledgeable coaches with so many former coordinators and head coaches.

  70. bearforlife says: Jan 25, 2016 5:12 PM

    He is over qualified, something is going down. Bye Bye Norv.

  71. lambeaudungbarn says: Jan 26, 2016 2:15 PM

    You guys are like a bunch of old Ladies over Tea,
    Talking about their Young Next Door Neighbors
    and what they have. Jealous but still putting them down!
    You can bet virtually every negative comment here
    is from a team Minnesota beat, or beat OUT.
    Mostly from Jealous old Gossips!

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