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Belichick wanted harder extra points, and he got them

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Patriots coach Bill Belichick had wanted the extra point to be made more difficult for years. In 2015, enough teams agreed with him to move it from a 19-yard kick to a 32-yarder.

Belichick may now want to change it back.

Sunday’s early miss of an extra point — his first in 523 attempts — by kicker Stephen Gostkowski loomed over the entire game, with the Patriots eventually forced to go for two late in an effort to send the game to overtime.

The many enemies of Bill Belichick will surely be pointing out the irony of what was, as Patriots nemesis Bill Polian described it last year, an effort to create a benefit for the Patriots.

“This was originally, in a different form, proposed by the New England Patriots,” Polian said on SiriusXM NFL Radio, via CSN New England. “The reason they proposed it is obvious. In January, December and even late November, in Northern [climates], Foxboro, Buffalo, Cleveland, Chicago, Pittsburgh — well-documented of course in Pittsburgh at the open end of the stadium how difficult it is to kick field goals — the team from the Northern [climates] that plays and practices in the harsher weather, the old Meadowlands being a prime example of that, has a decided advantage. [The Patriots] wouldn’t have proposed it if they didn’t think it wouldn’t help them.”

Polian was prescient in his assessment of what the change in the extra-point rule could do.

“I worry about an AFC or NFC Championship being decided on a missed field goal or a missed extra point from 32 yards in snow, on ice, in January,” Polian said. “I think that’s a miscarriage of justice, if you will. I would’ve much preferred to see it stay where it was because I didn’t see anything wrong with it.”

Snow, ice, or wind had nothing to do with Gostkowski’s miss. But from 19 yards his kick likely would have gone through.

With the rule change being a one-year adjustment only that will require 24 votes to keep it in place for 2016, the question now becomes whether Belichick, who at one point proposed moving the one-point try from the two to the 25, will continue to believe that it’s a good idea after seeing the very bad thing it did to his team’s effort to win a fifth Super Bowl.

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  1. hehateme2 says: Jan 25, 2016 8:44 AM

    Karma baby:-)

  2. ReligionIsForIdiots says: Jan 25, 2016 8:46 AM

    Ahahahahahaha!!

  3. restoreintegritytonfl says: Jan 25, 2016 8:46 AM

    Belicheat also wants to find a way to get Ernie Adams to travel. Brady was having a hard time yesterday without the little voice in his in his helmet telling him what to do as each play unfolded.

  4. kcrobert10 says: Jan 25, 2016 8:47 AM

    Well he only has himself to blame twice then. Cause let’s be real I get he is one of the greatest.coaches of all time but the reality was on Sunday he got caught being desperate and chasing the td to tie the game where if he would of taken fg on the last 3 drives he probably would of won the game.

  5. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 25, 2016 8:51 AM

    Eh. It’s not like Gostkowski missed a game tying or winning PAT with no time on the clock. I don’t think the thought even crossed Bill’s mind.

    I hope they keep the rule.

  6. biglaj007 says: Jan 25, 2016 8:52 AM

    I am so excited they lost and he got a dose of his own medicine!….Bmore fan here!

  7. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 25, 2016 8:53 AM

    chasing the td to tie the game where if he would of taken fg on the last 3 drives he probably would of won the game


    Hindsight is 20/20. I had no problem with the gambles at all, and we’d all say they were great moves if they worked out.

    This is the playoffs, you play to win.
    :)

  8. jbdvks says: Jan 25, 2016 8:54 AM

    Greedy coach you are Belicheat. You will sell your soul to get an edge.

    I enjoyed the Broncos letting the air out of your championship hopes.

    Enjoy your own medicine. You are off to the offseason.

  9. gysot says: Jan 25, 2016 8:55 AM

    belicheat also wanted spycams and deflated footballs. How did that work out?

  10. kuantan97 says: Jan 25, 2016 8:55 AM

    Karma.

  11. patstipoftheiceberg says: Jan 25, 2016 8:55 AM

    He wanted extra cameras and got them too…..all pointed at him. Lol

    Gotta love NFL for the tablets malfunctioning on NE

    The perfect answer for NEP hubris is to remind them who is boss

  12. Shanahammer says: Jan 25, 2016 8:55 AM

    That is so stupid.
    The game happened in freaking Denver in 50+ degrees.
    Not New England in wind and 20.

  13. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 25, 2016 8:56 AM

    Tee hee:)

    It’s wonderful seeing so many inferior fans still thinking about the 4 time World Champion Patriots.

    May that never change.

    May they stay in your heads.

    Forever.
    :)

    #WeOwnU
    #WeAlwaysWill
    #TeeHee

  14. cymbaline6 says: Jan 25, 2016 8:56 AM

    >“I worry about an AFC or NFC Championship being decided on a missed field goal or a missed extra point from 32 yards in snow, on ice, in January,” Polian said. “I think that’s a miscarriage of justice, if you will.”

    Why is that a miscarriage of justice? How is that any more a miscarriage of justice than the way the Vikings lost a few weeks ago? With regards to losing the coin toss in OT, everyone always says, “if you can’t play D, you don’t deserve to win.” Well, perhaps if you can’t kick an extra point, you don’t deserve to win.

    Maybe Belichick just wanted to make a dumb, boring, automatic play slightly more interesting, as did a ton of other people. Maybe not everything he does is the sinister plot of a mustache-twirling villainous mastermind.

  15. rcampore says: Jan 25, 2016 8:57 AM

    Sometimes Bill just outsmarts himself. It happened earlier this year in another game. He thinks that he can out maneuver anyone and a lot of times it works and sometimes it doesn’t. This time it didn’t.

  16. cmj0121 says: Jan 25, 2016 8:58 AM

    Belichick wanted harder extra rules on CHEATING, and he got them.😦

  17. braven4evr says: Jan 25, 2016 8:59 AM

    Things that make you go Hmm… Be careful what you pray/ask for…you just might get it; then you may have to ask to have it removed!

  18. patsxsaintsfan says: Jan 25, 2016 8:59 AM

    If you think this is karma you are a fool. Bill didn’t do this to make him when more games he did it to make the games more exciting and it challenging as apposed to a play people used to leave the bathroom for. Pats fan who is still glad they changed the rule we didn’t loose because of that missed extra point we lost because we didn’t take our 3 and our O line couldn’t protect Brady. This is not me complaining because I doubt it affects the outcome of the game but can I mention how similar the PI Logan Ryan got called for and the PI on Gronk that didn’t get called where? I mean those were the same exact plays almost and Gronk doesn’t get the flag and how was amendola not a catch if I’ve already established it as a catch by taking the steps and then loose the ball after my knee is down I’m a little confused. again for those of you that think I’m making excuses I’m not I’m just saying I wish I actually knew what PI and a catch where

  19. bradygirl12 says: Jan 25, 2016 8:59 AM

    Can’t disagree with anything in this article. What a miserable game the Pats played…all around,not just the missed extra point. The haters can call it karma or whatever they want. They just flat-out stunk. Truth.

  20. jrossizzle says: Jan 25, 2016 9:00 AM

    RIP Pats fan base 2001-2016

  21. chuggers says: Jan 25, 2016 9:03 AM

    Fg on last 3 drives? Fg on first drive changes everybplay occuring after that, i.e. kickoff, return, field position….come on the people saying this….you can’t change the outcome of one play and then play the rest of the game out in your heads th way it actually happened in Reality.

  22. bspurloc says: Jan 25, 2016 9:04 AM

    .
    The Giants got into Gostkowskis head…
    18-1!

  23. ninerfan81 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:05 AM

    poetic justice lol

  24. rocketmcstonebreaker says: Jan 25, 2016 9:06 AM

    Credit to Denver’s defense, they were very good yesterday and NE didn’t make enough plays. The Bronco’s deserved to win.

    Sincerely,
    A Patriots fan.

  25. bchap17 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:06 AM

    Be careful what you wish for…

  26. ikeclanton says: Jan 25, 2016 9:07 AM

    I’m sure he still likes it because that’s Gostkowski’s first miss in 9 years. Usually his accuracy benefits the Patriots, but not yesterday, obviously. It was a good change to make the play competitive, which it wasn’t at all before that.

  27. edukator4 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:07 AM

    butterfly effect. If gostkowski makes that extra point the entire game is different. quit making it seem that game would’ve played out exactly how it did.

  28. atthemurph says: Jan 25, 2016 9:07 AM

    Kick the FG idiot.

  29. abanig says: Jan 25, 2016 9:07 AM

    Karma! I lol’d so hard when perfect Steve missed it

  30. PATRIOTSDYNASTYLIVES says: Jan 25, 2016 9:07 AM

    They lost because they were out played. The whole game was off for them…from the coin flip defer double score strategy which they always do , to the missed extra point to poor oline play.it was a collective loss all the way around. The play calling was suspect as well throwing to White 50 yards down field into triple coverage is a head scratcher…win with them lose with them…..they made a good run to defend the title and came up short………give Denver props…..

  31. gotitan says: Jan 25, 2016 9:09 AM

    If he’d kicked FG instead of going for it, twice, this wouldn’t be an issue.

  32. cmj0121 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:15 AM

    MILLER TO GRONK: “Get any sleep last night after I demolished your QB? Ha-ha”

  33. 6ball says: Jan 25, 2016 9:16 AM

    .
    Regardless of yesterday’s outcome, changing the extra point rule was a good idea. The old extra points were automatic. They had a 99+% success rate and only served as a lead in to more beer commercials. As it was, the fans would have been better served by simply awarding 7 points for a touchdown.
    .

  34. ravens2xworldchamps says: Jan 25, 2016 9:16 AM

    It’s great to see New England fall

  35. igotgamenj says: Jan 25, 2016 9:16 AM

    And with the 28th pick in the 2016 draft the New England Patriots select….oh wait a minute

  36. mswravens says: Jan 25, 2016 9:16 AM

    Belicheat & Tom Baby have prospered from living in a historically weak AFC East & cheating. Put them on a level playing field and prevent them from cheating, and they’re just a couple of guys…

  37. tajuara says: Jan 25, 2016 9:16 AM

    My husband cannot throw the ball, catch the ball, and kick the extra points.

    -Gisselle

  38. marvsleezy says: Jan 25, 2016 9:16 AM

    Maybe the Pats woulda gone for 2 and the win anyway tho? Im only half joking.

  39. cropslx says: Jan 25, 2016 9:18 AM

    Did the Patriots not send there video taping team early enough to get all of Denver’s practices before the game Sunday?

  40. mitchitized says: Jan 25, 2016 9:19 AM

    Money quote:

    “[The Patriots] wouldn’t have proposed it if they didn’t think it wouldn’t help them.”

  41. steelcurtainn says: Jan 25, 2016 9:19 AM

    Lol. Way to go belicheat.

  42. descendency says: Jan 25, 2016 9:21 AM

    This is rich coming from Pollian who pushed the enforcement of illegal contact into the absurd realms by abusing his position as competition committee chair because his WRs and QB were tired of the Patriots DBs playing rough with them and making it tough to advance passed them.

  43. crush22 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:23 AM

    Remember when the Patsie* boys were screaming “KARMA”! all year in every article about the Colts?
    Yeah, me too.
    Good times.

  44. riggo08 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:26 AM

    In my lifetime I’ve never seen a sports franchise as widely hated as the Patriots. Their fans will say it is jealousy; I say it’s because people dislike teams that cheat and have no character. Outside of “Patriots nation” everyone couldn’t be happier with their loss.

  45. midenginerearwheeldrive says: Jan 25, 2016 9:27 AM

    NFL moved it back to create drama.

    If effectively decided who did and didn’t go to the SuperBowl.

    Drama achieved!

  46. jag1959 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:27 AM

    It certainly came back to bite him but overall the logic behind it was sound, the extra point has become less automatic and as a result more interesting. It certainly added to the drama yesterday.

    Quoting Polian who spearheaded the great wussification rules that handcuffed defensive backs and put skirts on QBs so Indy could contend is laughable. The guy that did everything he could to emasculate defensive football just isn’t someone who’s opinions on changing rules to favor particular teams can be taken seriously, unless we are talking about serious hypocrisy.

  47. ch0rn says: Jan 25, 2016 9:28 AM

    He has also been the head coach of 20% of all AFC championship games in the history of the NFL…

  48. hivelocityimpactsplatter says: Jan 25, 2016 9:29 AM

    TeeHeeLolatBradysFailure:)

    #wellhedid
    #1-5vsmanningsinpostseason
    #neverwouldbeatpanthersanyways

  49. eustus says: Jan 25, 2016 9:29 AM

    6:03 left. New England facing a 4 and 1 on the Denver 16. They kick a fieldgoal, they’re down by 5 against and giving the ball back with 5:45 to an offense that had accomplished nothing at all in the second half. They go for it on 4th down and don’t get it.

    2:25 left. New England, after a brilliantly executed (to that point) 2-minute drive are facing 4 and 6 on the Denver 14. They go for it, don`t make it, leave 3 more points on the field.

    17 seconds left. New England caps off a second brilliant 2-minute, desperation drive with a touchdown. The problem? The decision on the previous 2 drives to leave points on the field forces them to go for 2 to tie the game.

    But they already had 2 chances to win the game but blew it by not letting their kicker do his job.

    All of that to say, the missed point after isn’t the story here. The decision of Belichick to cave to the fear that his offense wouldn’t be able to move the ball (when they sliced down the field 3 times in the course of 6 minutes) is what caused the Pats to win.

    I refuse to believe that Belichick was worried Gostkowski would miss. He had already converted tries from 46 and 38 after the missed fieldgoal.

    Hell, even if Gostkowski, who has been one of the most accurate and reliable kickers all year goes shankopotamus on one of the two field goal tries, they still win the game.

    The loss isn’t on Gostkowski. Sure, he missed a PAT. But it was Belichick and his coaching staff that decided to leave 6 points on the field. You leave points on the field at your own peril.

  50. brafootball says: Jan 25, 2016 9:30 AM

    Where are all the Pats fans from earlier who were mouthing off about “karma” against other teams? THIS IS KARMA. In fact, it’s worse, because you came within a kick of making another SB, so the heartbreak is about as intense as it could ever get.

    Seethe! Suffer! We, the rest of the world, laugh at your pain. Cheat harder next time.:):):)

  51. cjmullysr says: Jan 25, 2016 9:30 AM

    Pats fan here, the XP rule hurt yesterday, but I am all for making it a play that that requires more skill than the 19 yard attempt. This is the NFL, and nothing should be so easy that it is a foregone conclusion. All plays in a game should matter. Also, while the missed XP was crucial to the final outcome, let’s not kid ourselves about this game, the Denver D carried the day. And for that matter the Pats D represented themselves very well. Playoff football and Pats got beat by the best D in football. Will be interesting to see if Denver D can slow Cam and company down, should be a great game.

  52. camdenyard says: Jan 25, 2016 9:30 AM

    CUNDIFFED!

    From 32 yards out, no less.

    Couldn’t have happened to a nice bunch.

  53. nard100 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:30 AM

    Revenge tour = crash and burn

  54. factman66 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:31 AM

    Karma!
    #4taintedTitles
    #Pasterisks
    #Belicheat

  55. lance227 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:32 AM

    Just beat either Miami or the Jets and you get to play the game in Foxboro where Peytie dreams go to die. No one to blame but yourselves, Patsies.

    P.S. You know Vinatieri doesn’t miss it!

  56. ampatsisahypocrite says: Jan 25, 2016 9:34 AM

    Attention Patriots fans: the Tom Brady Deflategate Karma Revenge Tour has been canceled. Ticket refunds can be picked up at the NFL offices in New York City.

    They will be handed personally to you by Commissioner Goodell.

  57. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:38 AM

    Funny that even though the Pats lost all that’s coming out of the haters is a huge collective WWWAAAAAAAAAAA

  58. cjmullysr says: Jan 25, 2016 9:41 AM

    Proud to be a Pats fan. When everyone is hating on you, you know you are doing something right. I will take the results, every year and ride this wave as long as possible….and most of you would too. Good luck Broncos and Panthers.

  59. crush22 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:42 AM

    TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says:

    Hindsight is 20/20. I had no problem with the gambles at all, and we’d all say they were great moves if they worked out.

    This is the playoffs, you play to win.
    ________
    How did Francis take the loss?

  60. chadsmith013 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:43 AM

    in bill we trust lol

  61. charliecharger says: Jan 25, 2016 9:52 AM

    I’ve always felt like this was the dumbest rule. So you have 52 football players on each team, about 20 or so coaches, an entire front office, and a field goal kicker. Why on earth would anyone think it’s a good idea to have a field goal kicker determine the outcome of these huge games? Obviously Belichick believed that with Gostowski as his kicker, this would give his team an advantage. I hate that it ended up costing New England and Tom Brady another shot at a super bowl, but I’m glad it happened to Belichick since he’s the one who had the bright idea. Can we finally admit this is a stupid rule and reverse it? If you want to make it interesting, make everyone go for 2 points every time. But I didn’t think the NFL’s popularity was slipping. This was just Belichick trying to get himself an advantage.

  62. cbass59 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:52 AM

    The Pats looked deflated after that loss yesterday.

  63. mrmcdougle says: Jan 25, 2016 9:56 AM

    This was not the reason they lost. Brady was rattled, and turned it over.

  64. downgoesbrady says: Jan 25, 2016 9:58 AM

    “Wide Right”

  65. js36js36 says: Jan 25, 2016 9:59 AM

    And when he gets his way with “everything being reviewable”, he’s gonna get a whole lotta offensive PI’s coming his way thanks to Gronk’s push offs.

  66. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Jan 25, 2016 9:59 AM

    mswravens says:
    Jan 25, 2016 9:16 AM
    Belicheat & Tom Baby have prospered from living in a historically weak AFC East…
    —————————-
    This gets repeated all the time but simply is not true. The AFCE was the winningest division in the league this year and third winningest in the last 15. Numbers that hold up even when division winners are removed from the equation. They were 4/6 in division this year (not unusual btw) and 8/10 against the rest of their schedule. Considering their finish annually has them playing only the top team in 2 of the other AFC divisions they still do better against the AFCN (.800) and AFCS (.821) than they do against the AFCE (.779).

    Brady and Belichick’s winning percentage by division:
    AFCE .779
    AFCN .800
    AFCS .821
    AFCW .607
    NFCE .813
    NFCN .875
    NFCS .750
    NFCW .667

  67. granadafan says: Jan 25, 2016 9:59 AM

    Moving the extra point was still a good idea regardless of yesterday’s miss. It makes the game more interesting and forces coaches to make decisions rather going on auto pilot.

  68. flaccodelic says: Jan 25, 2016 10:00 AM

    I’m sure all the zen buddhists in New England are quickly revising their definitions of the word karma, which they so quickly applied to the fortunes of the Ravens and Colts this year. Turns out, if you look it up? Karma does NOT mean “revenge”.

  69. bullcharger says: Jan 25, 2016 10:04 AM

    lance227 says:
    Jan 25, 2016 9:32 AM

    Just beat either Miami or the Jets and you get to play the game in Foxboro where Peytie dreams go to die. No one to blame but yourselves, Patsies.

    P.S. You know Vinatieri doesn’t miss it!

    ———–

    Vinitieri missed two field goals in Super Bowl 38. One from 31 yards.

    Brady got the job done anyway.

    That early extra point would have helped, but it wasn’t worse then many of the other bad plays. the Patriots defense played well, but gave up a quick 7 to start the game and a 3 at the end of the half that were both killers.

    Of course the first Brady pick was basically like handing 7 points to Denver. Way worse than an extra-point miss.

    You are right about not winning home field, but I also believe that without the team getting healthier they wouldn’t win their first playoff game, so Belichick decided they didn’t care that much where they would end up in the AFC championship game if it got that far. Probably a bad call, but then again, if Edelman got hurt against Miami it wouldn’t have mattered anyway.

    Denver out played the Patriots. That simple.

    I think New England would have been overmatched in the Super Bowl against Carolina and I think Denver will be too.

    Playing away from that massive home field advantage wont help Denver. I would say it will mostly affect their kicking game/special teams who are just lights out in Denver.

    Newton will be much harder to get to and he throws to a totally different zone of the field which will stretch out the Denver secondary.

    Denver’s defense is really good though, so you never know.

    Should be a good one. As much as I dislike Denver, I have no problem with Peyton getting one more Super Bowl. He deserves it.

  70. piscataquis007 says: Jan 25, 2016 10:04 AM

    I don’t like the new rule, and even though you don’t care, I’m going to tell you why.
    When all PATs came from the 2 yard line, you could either kick the XP or go for two. But you could also line up in FG formation, then run some kind of fake, or if there was a botched snap you could still attempt to get the ball in the end zone. That option has pretty much been taken away.

  71. zampft says: Jan 25, 2016 10:08 AM

    the new XP rule kick is horrible… I really hope it gets revoked

  72. Patskrieg says: Jan 25, 2016 10:11 AM

    Jim Irsay was the one pushing for the extra point change. Not Belichick. Polian is wrong.

  73. jbravo2312 says: Jan 25, 2016 10:14 AM

    But according to the brilliant Phil Simms, as of the 4th quarter, the missed point didn’t effect the game! He’s stupidity is epic

  74. pete2112 says: Jan 25, 2016 10:15 AM

    The better team won fair and square. The missed extra point was not the reason they lost. The Pats had plenty of chances to put up some points but the Broncos defense was just too good yesterday and made the big plays when they needed it most.

  75. honeybadger14 says: Jan 25, 2016 10:23 AM

    This was likely the last game between Manning vs Brady. The missed XP falls way down the list on things I’ll remember from this one.

    I would have expected to see Gostkowski miss 50 XPs before I ever seen Manning take off and run 7 yards for a 1st down.

    Despite the pressure and some ugliness both QB’s made throws and had a games that show why they are in the class of GOAT.

  76. surfing1998 says: Jan 25, 2016 10:25 AM

    Laugh all you want, haters…

    But how often is YOUR team’s coach and QB discussed by national media as the best ever?

    #exactly

    BB is still polishing 6 rings with your tears

  77. fireroger says: Jan 25, 2016 10:28 AM

    32 yard extra point is still a chip shot. If a kicker can’t make it 100% of the time they just aren’t that good. Gostkowski should have made it. Period.

    Pats should have kicked the FGs instead of going for it on both 4th downs. BB owns both of those.

    Den abused the Pats OL. Not too surprising since the OL has been a weakness all year. Doing it with 3 and 4 rushers proves the Pats OL has a long way to go. Good game plan by Den to go after them. I didn’t think Pats would get past KC for the same reason.

  78. fishyinalittledishy says: Jan 25, 2016 10:35 AM

    What a load of BS. The extra point was far to easy. These guys are pro kickers thats what they do make them earn the points. I would make them longer 35 yards would surfice. If its part of he game its part of the game. People read to much into stuff trying to be to clever. You can come up with ulterior motives for everything.

  79. jchipwood says: Jan 25, 2016 10:40 AM

    chesswhileyouplaycheckers says:
    Jan 25, 2016 9:59 AM
    mswravens says:
    Jan 25, 2016 9:16 AM
    Belicheat & Tom Baby have prospered from living in a historically weak AFC East…
    —————————-
    This gets repeated all the time but simply is not true. The AFCE was the winningest division in the league this year and third winningest in the last 15. Numbers that hold up even when division winners are removed from the equation. They were 4/6 in division this year (not unusual btw) and 8/10 against the rest of their schedule. Considering their finish annually has them playing only the top team in 2 of the other AFC divisions they still do better against the AFCN (.800) and AFCS (.821) than they do against the AFCE (.779).

    Brady and Belichick’s winning percentage by division:
    AFCE .779
    AFCN .800
    AFCS .821
    AFCW .607
    NFCE .813
    NFCN .875
    NFCS .750
    NFCW .667
    _______________________________
    Its easy to have a high winning percentage when A) you play the least amount of teams coming off bye weeks like patriots have had since Goodell became commish and B)the hardest teams on your schedule you play is coming their 4th road game in a row or a trip out west C) Your owner is on the compensation committee in charge of Goodells salary

  80. baltimorons says: Jan 25, 2016 10:40 AM

    Hahahahahaha

  81. peoriaviking says: Jan 25, 2016 10:45 AM

    Not sure it matters, as a Vikings fan, Blair Walsh was better from 40 plus yards than he was at 33 or even 26!

  82. shutyofacepunk says: Jan 25, 2016 10:48 AM

    I love it. All the loser teams trolls are out in full force. The Patriots losing somehow makes them feel like their team won the Superbowl. Guess what. There are only two teams left and unless your a bronco or panther fan, your team still sucks. As a Pat fan, I feel bad today, but look forward to next year. After all we did win the big one last year. You can’t win them all, what kinda fun would that be. The Pats made this season exciting, a lot longer than 28 other teams did for their fans. Hey haters, you still have the whole Brady deflategate court thing to look forward to.

  83. packmanfan says: Jan 25, 2016 10:58 AM

    Just watch. Grumpy Cat Coach is now going to suggest a 50 yard PAT except for the Pats who get an automatic 3 points added on after the TD.

  84. swaddleblanket says: Jan 25, 2016 11:03 AM

    It’s part of the game, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

  85. unoduotres says: Jan 25, 2016 11:09 AM

    Mike,Your article describes the holier -than -thou Bill Polian as being deeply concerned about how Belichick got the point after rule changed to benefit his team. Reference is made to the Bleacher Report, dated Nov 9, 2010, ‘Indianapolis Colts President is the Biggest Cheater in the NFL”. I have enclosed excerpts (essentially word by word) from that Article as follows: Polian was on the NFL Competition Committee. Is it a coincidence that the NFL started changing rules left to right to favor the offense in the last decade approximately at the same time that the Colts got their hands on franchise QB Peyton Manning? What did the Colts do? They complained vehemently about the Patriots physical play and their President Polian helped institute a new rule illegal contract.
    In 2010, Polian led the charge to move the umpire from the defensive front to behind the offensive backfield He cited safety reasons. The league agreed and the change was made. Polian then realized that it might take the official longer to get into position and could slow down the Colts no-huddle offense. The Colts used no huddle to keep teams from getting the right personnel on the field and also drew a lot of penalties. So what did Polian do? He wanted to move the umpire back to his old spot. Umpire’s wasn’t as important when Colts are in Hurry-up.
    In summary, Polian believes that rules only apply to other teams, and it is his right to criticize other coaches.
    Polian’s true beliefs need to be highlighted.

  86. superpatriotsfan says: Jan 25, 2016 11:10 AM

    QB Rating of 56.4. He is a 6 round pick what did you expect?

  87. joseferreira1967 says: Jan 25, 2016 11:15 AM

    It’s a beautiful thing to watch all the Pats haters coming out in full force.

    Damn…the Pats are good…

  88. briangraydon says: Jan 25, 2016 11:21 AM

    All you Pats fans better enjoy this ride. When Brady retires you are screwed. I was living it up when Montana and Walsh were together but now I’m waiting 22 years for another championship. If you think you will just plug in the next QB for Brady good luck. We’re still looking but we got Chip. Who has it better than us? Nobody! Well 30 other teams except Cleveland.

  89. ikeclanton says: Jan 25, 2016 11:30 AM

    shutyofacepunk says:
    Jan 25, 2016 10:48 AM
    I love it. All the loser teams trolls are out in full force. The Patriots losing somehow makes them feel like their team won the Superbowl.

    ————

    You said it best right there.

    You know you’re good on a legendary level when so many people dedicate their online lives to hoping you’ll fail. I’m glad I don’t have to deal with that baggage.

    They all know the Patriots will be right in the thick of it again next year and it still bothers them…as it should.

  90. fanboyarmy says: Jan 25, 2016 11:35 AM

    So, Pats Nation, where art thou?

    All last week we listened to your boasts that Sunday wouldn’t even be a game. NE would hang 50 on Denver. What happened? And please explain the GOATs 56 QB rating (Manning 90). Wasn’t Brady’s release so fast that the Denver pass rush wouldn’t touch him? Remember?

    And how about the whining how the refs would favor Denver? Hoch certainly threw his share of flags against Denver, yes?

    And why was Gronk so dehydrated? The weather was near freezing. Had he had too much the night before?

    Questions, questions, questions. Where are you Pat Nation?

    “We are moving on to off-season.”

  91. kenchun24 says: Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM

    Why change it? You wanted it, you got it Grumpycoach. Besides the league/refs injected some unnecessary drama in the final mins letting at least FIVE (maybe seven) ABSOLUTE intentional grounding plays from turf tossed Tommy Baby balls completely flag free.

    Such a joke…game could have easily been 24-3 with how dominant Wade and Denvers D was controlling Shady,McNugget,and Grumpy Coaches offense. 2-15 in 3rd down, avg drive start 15 yard line, druves and points only garnered after a silly challenge (another terrible call) and 3rd down penalties.

    Patsies got physically BEATDOWN BAD that’s for sure.

  92. Marcus says: Jan 25, 2016 11:38 AM

    He didn’t lose because they missed the 2pt conversion. They lost because they went for the TD with 2:20 left in the game and all of their timeouts. A field goal would have put them 4 down when they got the ball back with 1:50 left in the game and the ball at the 50 yard line.

  93. vonmillertime says: Jan 25, 2016 11:42 AM

    @TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters:

    Well, considering you lost twice this year to the Broncos and you lost the AFC Championship Game two years ago against the Broncos I wouldn’t say you own us. More like we own you. Especially in games that matter. We have kept your team out of the Superbowl two of the past three years, and if we had played you in the playoffs last year we would have kept you out then too.

    -Broncos fan

  94. brendafortheboyz says: Jan 25, 2016 11:46 AM

    Is Gostkowski still on the Pats roster?? :):)
    If not, Billy is sure slacking….lol…Could not happen to a finer organization! Looks like Tommy’s email about Peyton, came back to bite him in the behind……

  95. zeke2517 says: Jan 25, 2016 11:47 AM

    Changing it was dumb, but this is delicious.

  96. killitandeatit says: Jan 25, 2016 11:48 AM

    Let’s talk rule changes:
    #1. New rule: You can not throw the ball into the ground…ever=automatic intentional grounding=15 yds and loss of down.
    #2. New rule: If an offensive player begs for a flag =harassment of league officials during active play =15yds,down counts.

  97. jjackwagon says: Jan 25, 2016 11:50 AM

    Nice to see the Pats have trouble with their Apple tablets yesterday for a change. Now you know what other teams feel when they play at your place.

  98. tajuara says: Jan 25, 2016 11:51 AM

    6:03 left. New England facing a 4 and 1 on the Denver 16. They kick a fieldgoal, they’re down by 5 against and giving the ball back with 5:45 to an offense that had accomplished nothing at all in the second half. They go for it on 4th down and don’t get it.

    2:25 left. New England, after a brilliantly executed (to that point) 2-minute drive are facing 4 and 6 on the Denver 14. They go for it, don`t make it, leave 3 more points on the field.

    17 seconds left. New England caps off a second brilliant 2-minute, desperation drive with a touchdown. The problem? The decision on the previous 2 drives to leave points on the field forces them to go for 2 to tie the game.

    But they already had 2 chances to win the game but blew it by not letting their kicker do his job.

    All of that to say, the missed point after isn’t the story here. The decision of Belichick to cave to the fear that his offense wouldn’t be able to move the ball (when they sliced down the field 3 times in the course of 6 minutes) is what caused the Pats to win.

    I refuse to believe that Belichick was worried Gostkowski would miss. He had already converted tries from 46 and 38 after the missed fieldgoal.

    Hell, even if Gostkowski, who has been one of the most accurate and reliable kickers all year goes shankopotamus on one of the two field goal tries, they still win the game.

    The loss isn’t on Gostkowski. Sure, he missed a PAT. But it was Belichick and his coaching staff that decided to leave 6 points on the field. You leave points on the field at your own peril.
    ——————————————————

    You are doing your analysis after the fact, which is correct, but you stil missing some points. Assuming that they kick a FG and get 5 points behind Denver. They will still need either 2 more FG or a TD to take the lead, and the way Denver D was playing made things worst. Even if they kick two FGs, still they were 2 points behind, and let’s face, that 4 and 10 pass from Brady to Gronk was pure luck (luck of a champion you may say).

  99. jacunn2000 says: Jan 25, 2016 11:58 AM

    I was hoping for Denver and manning to win.
    But I still give the Patriots the proper respect they deserve. They are a Dynasty. They are considered one of the best franchises in NFL history.
    People that hate a team for winning are just plain old, sorry individuals.
    Patriots losing yesterday did not make my team or your team any better.

  100. davew128 says: Jan 25, 2016 12:23 PM

    kcrobert10 says:
    Jan 25, 2016 8:47 AM
    chasing the td to tie the game where if he would of taken fg on the last 3 drives he probably would of won the game.
    ***************************
    Honestly? Did you really think the Patriots would get the ball back after kicking a field goal and drive the length of the field for a TD which they still needed? I sure didn’t. The call made sense to me.

  101. lanman11 says: Jan 25, 2016 12:37 PM

    I’ll ride with the guys that have delivered over a dozen division Championships, 10 Conference Championship games, 6 Super Bowls, and 4 Lombardi Trophy’s, and have come within whiskers, of adding to the total several more times. They won’t be going away. They’ll be back.

  102. swagger52 says: Jan 25, 2016 12:46 PM

    Bill didn’t calculate one thing…

    Bill thought the Patriots would always have home field advantage in the playoffs given that they play in the ever reinventing themselves AFC Least.

  103. skawh says: Jan 25, 2016 12:48 PM

    Pat’s tripped up by a Pat. Love it

    Not why they loss. Turnovers. Pass rush pummeled Brady.

    Interesting stat. Brady 20-4 in all playoff games with QB not named Manning

    Against Manning’s Brady is 2-5

    Manning equals Brady kryptonite

  104. vancouversportsbro says: Jan 25, 2016 12:56 PM

    He’s a miserable human being. The picture says it all.

    Surprised he walked off the field shaking hands this time.

  105. contender21open says: Jan 25, 2016 1:06 PM

    Oh, the irony of it all.

  106. dohczeppelin says: Jan 25, 2016 1:23 PM

    Eh, at best, there is no advantage for northern teams. Yes, they may practice in poor weather more often, but they also have to actually PLAY in poor weather more often. So they may get a small advantage in specific games, but over the course of a season, it’s a disadvantage. Teams who have a dome for a home field will always have the advantage in the kicking game if you think about it over the course of a whole season, because they get to play in perfect conditions for at least 50% of the season, where as most teams might enjoy perfect conditions 25% of the time, and even that’s never guaranteed.

    Based on another article I read, Belichick is a HUGE fan of the kicking game in general, so I’m guessing his motivation came more from wanting to spice up an aspect of the game that he really appreciates but most people overlook, rather than some nefarious plot to alter the rule book so that northern teams have an automatic edge. Now did his awareness of the fact that he currently has the best kicker in the league, and probably will for most of his career because he’s so knowledgeable about that aspect of the game, come into play? Perhaps, but it’s more about sharpening the edge that any coach can develop for themselves if they have the skills, instead of the field always being pretty much equal for everyone when it came to the PAT.

    I support the rule and I’m glad they did it. It was hilarious watching it come back to bite him though.

  107. bubbahotepp says: Jan 25, 2016 1:30 PM

    That kick didn’t lose the game. They lost because Brady can’t handle a pass rush. Never could. No protection, no win. That’s always been the story.

  108. rogergoodellisatwat says: Jan 25, 2016 1:38 PM

    Jacunn2000:

    I still give the Patriots the proper respect they deserve. They are a Dynasty.

    Patriots losing yesterday did not make my team or your team any better.
    _________

    You win the thread! Someone who gets it, and for that, MUCH respect to you. Obviously, the Peyton enmity runs deep in our veins from his Colts days, but still like him as a person and respect him as a player. Your D was fierce, our offensive line offensive. To the next time. Good luck against Carolina.

  109. padronebradfather says: Jan 25, 2016 2:01 PM

    poor situational football coaching by Belichick and the poor special teams execution in general did the Patriots in more than anything else.

  110. uglydingo says: Jan 25, 2016 2:10 PM

    Stephen Gostkowski has been the best kicker in the NFL for many years. He has been money when it counted but he just missed one yesterday. First missed extra point kick in 523 attempts. I think that it’s premature to blame him.

  111. mmack66 says: Jan 25, 2016 2:13 PM

    bubbahotepp says:
    Jan 25, 2016 1:30 PM

    That kick didn’t lose the game. They lost because Brady can’t handle a pass rush. Never could. No protection, no win. That’s always been the story.
    ————————

    No quarterback in the league would do much against a pass rush like that.

  112. packmanfan says: Jan 25, 2016 2:22 PM

    bubbahotepp says:
    Jan 25, 2016 1:30 PM
    That kick didn’t lose the game. They lost because Brady can’t handle a pass rush. Never could. No protection, no win. That’s always been the story.
    ——————————————————————————————
    That missed kick contributed to losing the game.
    Win or lose, it’s the victory or the fault of the whole team.

  113. fm31970 says: Jan 25, 2016 2:22 PM

    The real irony is he didn’t go for the two-point conversion instead. If the odds are truly in favor of converting the 2-pt conversion versus making the (now) longer XP, the decision to kick the XP was the wrong one.

    I think Jim Nantz summed it up perfectly when he suggested this had been the toughest defense Brady had ever faced. I have to agree, and that was the real difference in the game. Kudos to Elway for building this defense, knowing that Manning wasn’t going to be able to carry the team in his later years.

    Nice gesture by the Patriots coaches to come out and congratulate Manning after the game, too.

  114. trollaikman8 says: Jan 25, 2016 2:24 PM

    That NE OL couldn’t handle a 3 man rush.
    There was no threat of a running game.
    8 guys in coverage to stop Brady’s patented 4yd deep bombs to Edelman.

    Wade Phillips is a genius and gotta give props to horse face Elway for doing nothing but signing edge rushers in steady rotation.

  115. bradygirl12 says: Jan 25, 2016 2:37 PM

    I’m a bit angry with the Patriots right now…All season long,we,the fans,have supported you through all of the the highs and lows,all the hatred from the rest of the world,all the wins and losses,and you have the nerve to not even show up for the AFC Championship game. It was an embarassment. You. never. showed. up. The Broncos defense made you look like a bunch of clowns. The only thing that could make it even a little better would be to see the Broncos get manhandled by the Panthers in the Super Bowl. Even then,it won’t matter. You didn’t even deliver an EFFORT,and that will be hard to forget.. Rant over…

  116. mmack66 says: Jan 25, 2016 2:57 PM

    bradygirl12 says:
    Jan 25, 2016 2:37 PM

    I’m a bit angry with the Patriots right now…All season long,we,the fans,have supported you through all of the the highs and lows,all the hatred from the rest of the world,all the wins and losses,and you have the nerve to not even show up for the AFC Championship game. It was an embarassment. You. never. showed. up. The Broncos defense made you look like a bunch of clowns. The only thing that could make it even a little better would be to see the Broncos get manhandled by the Panthers in the Super Bowl. Even then,it won’t matter. You didn’t even deliver an EFFORT,and that will be hard to forget.. Rant over…
    ————————

    What game were you watching? In the game I watched, the Patriots took a licking, but were still in it until the last seconds of the game.

  117. FinFan68 says: Jan 25, 2016 2:59 PM

    Change for the sake of change is not progress; it is stupidity. It is odd how the NFL changed overtime rules because they didn’t want a coin flip and a kicker doing his job well to decide a game yet they seem perfectly willing for a kicker to decide a game as long as he does it by failing.

  118. mathprof84 says: Jan 25, 2016 3:05 PM

    Well, considering you lost twice this year to the Broncos and you lost the AFC Championship Game two years ago against the Broncos I wouldn’t say you own us. More like we own you. Especially in games that matter. We have kept your team out of the Superbowl two of the past three years, and if we had played you in the playoffs last year we would have kept you out then too.

    -Broncos fan
    ———————–
    Perhaps, but you didn’t make it that far, so the Pats won the Super Bowl. The Broncos did not. Nor will they this year.

    It is true that the Patriots have not fared well in Mile Hgh stadium, and you can’t win the Super Bowl ever year, but I’ll happily take the results of the past 15 years, and so would any other franchise.

  119. mmack66 says: Jan 25, 2016 3:05 PM

    briangraydon says:
    Jan 25, 2016 11:21 AM

    All you Pats fans better enjoy this ride. When Brady retires you are screwed. I was living it up when Montana and Walsh were together but now I’m waiting 22 years for another championship. If you think you will just plug in the next QB for Brady good luck. We’re still looking but we got Chip. Who has it better than us? Nobody! Well 30 other teams except Cleveland.
    ———————-

    Nope. Even Cleveland, with a lawyer and a baseball guy for a front office, has it better than the Santa Clara 49ers.

  120. tindeaux says: Jan 25, 2016 3:41 PM

    plain and simple: they didn’t cheat, they didn’t win!

  121. swagger52 says: Jan 25, 2016 4:05 PM

    Jim Nantz had it half correct…

    This is the toughest defense that Brady has faced. It also was the only defense, especially as an away game. Typically the NFL schedules Brady’s toughest non-division games at home. They schedule his in-division games so as to play in Miami in late December – when Miami is already eliminated.

  122. swagger52 says: Jan 25, 2016 4:18 PM

    Hey Bill your job is to play Chess, not lose at Checkers. Just do your job man!

  123. whatjusthapped says: Jan 25, 2016 4:42 PM

    If you think a 32 yard extra point attempt is difficult, try a 28 yard FG to win the game. Laces out!

  124. rootpain says: Jan 25, 2016 5:28 PM

    OK I think it’s fair to say now, that the Patriots have done everything they need to do to bring parity to the NFL. We can go back and dominate right through to the SuperBowl from now on. After all it was SP50 that we relinquished, so there better not be any more whining and complaining for at least five years. We even went so far as to hand you the home game advantage (you are going to all at least admit that right?) And we spotted you an extra seven points in the AFC game (you don’t actually think Gront missed the extra point do you? and passing on the two easy field goals on 4th down, do you really think Belichick overlooked that?) Well we really didn’t spot you seven, we just chose to go after those points in a more difficult manner. So come on all of you, call a spade a spade. The Patriots gave a big one to the gipper ie all of you out there. Be thankful that they are at least letting you vent when it would have just been easier to shove SB50 down your throats.
    So you see, there is parity. Now go pick on Cam after he accepts the Lombardi and SB50 MVP. It’s already starting just cause he likes to show boat a bit. It’s more than any of you are going to do with your teams any time soon.
    Oh and by the way, good job Broncos.

  125. limakey says: Jan 25, 2016 6:35 PM

    Rootpain, what are you smoking? The Pats did not give this game away. You got spanked and beat by a better team on Sunday.

  126. rootpain says: Jan 26, 2016 7:43 AM

    Limakey,
    I know we were beaten. You have been so quiet over the last several months, I figured I had to saying something outrageous to draw you out. Secondly I just wanted to see what it felt like to make an outrageous comment on this blog.
    But let’s go back to being honest for a second. Are you telling me it wasn’t embarrassing enough to have one of the Ryan clowns on the team, you had to go out and buy the set?

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