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NFL conducting “comprehensive” Peyton Manning investigation

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In the midst of criticism from those who think that the NFL has applied different standards to Patriots quarterback Tom Brady regarding #DeflateGate and Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning regarding allegations of HGH use, the NFL has disclosed that it is conducting a comprehensive investigation of Manning.

NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy tells the Associated Press that the league launched an investigation “weeks ago,” and that it entails the review of records, interviews, and coordination with other agencies.

It seems to be a direct reaction to the report from ESPN that the NFL declined an invitation to collaborate with Major League Baseball and the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, since that created the perception (accurate or not) that the league is brushing the entire Manning situation under the rug.

The overriding challenge from the NFL comes from its lack of power to obtain information from anyone other than Manning or any other NFL player, team, or employee. With no subpoena power, there’s one way to get the information that goes directly to the heart of the allegation that Manning’s wife received HGH for use by Peyton: To obtain from Manning and his wife legal authorization to obtain from the Guyer Institute any and all documents or other evidence regarding the treatments they received.

Without that, the league will have to wait for a prosecution of the Guyer Institute or civil litigation arising from the situation to ever get to the truth.

Regardless of whether the NFL gets to the truth, many are noticing the obvious differences between last year’s public #DeflateGate investigation and the secrecy that ordinarily applies when the league investigates potential player wrongdoing — and most can’t appreciate the nuance.

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  1. dtp15 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:48 PM

    Its more probable than not Peyton Manning gets a pass because for whatever reason hes infallible.

  2. bigbenh8tr says: Jan 26, 2016 7:52 PM

    They had to do it. The whining from Pats fans all offseason would be unbearable.

    Then again, Pats fans wouldn’t complain at all had they not lost to someone more fragile than Mr. Burns

  3. macdaddyspeed says: Jan 26, 2016 7:53 PM

    Comprehensive? yeah, I think the investigation went something like this:
    Investigator: “Are you Peyton Manning
    Manning: “Yes”
    Investigator: “Well, I believe that about wraps things up, I’m starving”

  4. zombiepatriot says: Jan 26, 2016 7:53 PM

    Good to hear because I always trust information coming from the NFL especially when it applies to their Golden Boy Peyton Manning.

  5. gilamu says: Jan 26, 2016 7:54 PM

    Hopefully this doesn’t interfere with the investigation of the Colts for faking injury reports.

  6. runtheball says: Jan 26, 2016 7:54 PM

    He should stand at the podium on media day in his boxers. Anyone who looks at that physique will know he is not taking HGH.

  7. plum54 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:54 PM

    We don’t think there has been a different standard, there HAS been a different standard. A double standard!

  8. phinfan says: Jan 26, 2016 7:55 PM

    He used it to repair his shoulder… Healing faster should be a ‘sweep under the rug’ thing. Hes not a linebacker abusing the roids

  9. pantherfan1973299 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:56 PM

    And here…we…go

  10. rsellersus says: Jan 26, 2016 7:56 PM

    #growthgate

  11. bobsnygiants says: Jan 26, 2016 7:57 PM

    It’s about time, should come out and get boy wonder. The HGH man.

  12. tndiver says: Jan 26, 2016 7:57 PM

    The bigger problem is there are no leaks that implicates Manning because the “journalists” won’t investigate it further, unlike their rabid insatiable quest for info against Brady and the Patriots. But we all know media outlets have their own agenda’s and this one clearly goes against any story they want the public to know about so there won’t be anyone hounding Manning in the lead up to the Super Bowl and let it become a distraction.

  13. sixchr says: Jan 26, 2016 7:58 PM

    I think Peyton Manning was generally aware of the shipment of HGH to his house under his wife’s name while he was recovering from neck surgery.

  14. dynastyfootballforme says: Jan 26, 2016 7:59 PM

    The masses can’t get riled up because there aren’t false “11 of 12” leaks to push false narratives.

  15. keylimelight says: Jan 26, 2016 7:59 PM

    When are we going to have the discussion about the benefits of HGH in the recovery and healing of football injuries?

    Why are they demonizing medicine? It would be simple enough for a doctor to develop a prescribed dosage range of HGH and other anabolic agents during a players rehab phase.

    This would not be considered ab – use, this would be prescribed use.

  16. phantomgremlin says: Jan 26, 2016 7:59 PM

    Don’t worry, they’ll get to the bottom of things. I bumped into Roger earlier today, and he assured me of this.

    Roger: We have top men working on it right now.

    Me: Who?

    Roger: Top… men.

  17. holdthemayo123 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:59 PM

    Can we all at least agree on this – If his wife had HGH sent to her, he’s guilty as sin.

  18. thewalkingmeme says: Jan 26, 2016 7:59 PM

    HGH YOU TASTE SO GOOD

  19. genericnflfan says: Jan 26, 2016 8:00 PM

    no they’re not lol. just a simple reaction to a true MLB report of their ignorance.

    Why would they worry about Manning? 99% of people don’t hate him, Roger can’t get people back on his side by dragging him through the mud.

  20. solo681 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:01 PM

    What an ABSOLUTE JOKE !!!

    This is nothing more then POSTURING by Goodel to cover his arse for his blunder & corruption in attacking Brady = FALSELY.

    Goodel must make an attempt at “investigating” otherwise it makes Brady’s case against the NFL a million more times stronger then it already is.

  21. johnkgc says: Jan 26, 2016 8:01 PM

    Florio using rationalism! I didn’t think people used that anymore.

  22. truthfactory says: Jan 26, 2016 8:01 PM

    The reasons are obvious for anyone that has common sense. Brady’s alleged wrongdoing was within the team and the organization. They are all under the umbrella of the NFL. When Ted Wells, or anyone else goes to NE to ask questions, they pretty much have to at least attempt to answer the questions.

    The Guyer institute in this case doesn’t have to say a word. Why would Goodell hire someone who can’t even get past the front door. Manning would never have to disclose his wife’s medical records to the NFL so this is pretty much a dead end. Any “independent investigator” is going to get the door closed in their face at the Guyer institute because of HIPPA laws.

    So anyone screaming for an “independent investigation”… what would you like to happen? Ted Wells will knock on their door, and they’ll tell him to go home. Then Manning will say they weren’t mine… then the investigation is over. This allegedly happened in 2011 so I doubt anyone has their cell phones from 5 years ago. Not sure what else their supposed to do. Any serious suggestions or just a bunch of people who want to shout from rooftops?

  23. jaxbeachjagfan says: Jan 26, 2016 8:01 PM

    What double standard? The same standard of incompetence has been applied in each and every league investigation.

    Didn’t Jughead already say his wife may have received HGH from that lab?

    Sad part is, even if it was for her, she’s taking away from the people who need it for very serious medical conditions. There is a huge wait list for this stuff.

    Ask Roger Clemons if you can get away with blaming the wife.

  24. ampatsisahypocrite says: Jan 26, 2016 8:02 PM

    What timing! Coming out with this right before the Super Bowl! What an outrage!

    I’m sure all Patriots fans will protest this sham of justice the same way they objected to the NFL doing exactly the same thing with their guy last January — because surely you’re about justice in general, not just your narrow self interests as a fan.

    Right Pats fans?

  25. mathprof84 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:03 PM

    The NFL is “disclosing” this now because MLB has gotten involved, alone with the USDA. Before it was “we don’t discuss investigations”, now that they look bad, they put this out.
    They are the most transparent self-serving duplicitous organization around, and need a good house cleaning.

  26. mathprof84 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:04 PM

    Sad that it happens fresh off his big coat tail riding win at Mile Hgh Stadium.

  27. truthfactory says: Jan 26, 2016 8:04 PM

    To all the Pats fans, would you consider it “proof” if Manning was found to be texting a guy nicknamed “The HGH supplier”?? Of course you would…

    But when Brady is texting a guy named “the deflator” who prepares the balls and took the balls in the bathroom before gametime… it was just a random coincidence.

  28. solo681 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:05 PM

    I can hear Judge Berman asking Goodel how actual PED use by Manning compares to “more probable then not” air deflation of 0.5 PSI, where that sneaky beech Mother Nature is the actual culprit.

  29. tb12bestqbevah says: Jan 26, 2016 8:06 PM

    #tainted
    #cheater
    #GiantForeheadGate

    Right Pats haters?

    Where’s Mort? Does he have inside (NFL offices) info that the mailman who delivered the HGH has confessed?

    Where’s Ted Wells and his porn mustache? He needs more billable hours to fill his quota.

    Quick, where are all the armchair QB’s who become overnight PhD Statisticians?

    Has King Roger demanded Peyton’s cell phone(s)??

  30. DrSteveBrule says: Jan 26, 2016 8:08 PM

    Wasn’t it already said that Peyton wouldn’t face league punishment even IF he did take HGH because they weren’t testing until 2014? You can’t test for it years later. This investigate just seems like it is being done calm everyone making a big fuss about it down.

  31. coltzfan166 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:09 PM

    Is Ted Wells running the investigation??

  32. haslamdrinkshisownpee says: Jan 26, 2016 8:09 PM

    I feel your pain Peyton. When my friends saw a recent shipment of drugs sent to my house, they didn’t believe me either. Is it that far fetched to think the Extenze were for my wife?

  33. lapantherfan86 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:09 PM

    I’m less concerned with the fact that Peyton took HGH and more concerned with the fact that Denver would not have even made the playoffs had it not been for number 17. At least Brady deserved to be starting last Sunday.

  34. kapy01 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:10 PM

    LOL sure they are

  35. plum54 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:10 PM

    Phinfan you just don’t get it! HGH is a banned substance, it’s a performance enhancing drug( PED). It’s illegal to take. End of story.

  36. solo681 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:11 PM

    Nothing more then POSTURING by Goodel to cover his farse for his blunder & corruption in attacking Brady = FALSELY.
    Goodel must make an attempt at “investigating” otherwise it makes Brady’s case against the NFL a million more times stronger then it already is.

    I can hear Judge Berman asking Goodel how actual PED use by Manning compares to “more probable then not” air deflation of 0.5 PSI, where that sneaky beech Mother Nature is the actual culprit.

    NFL Integrity = Double Standard = NFL Parity

  37. mazenblue says: Jan 26, 2016 8:11 PM

    *HGH

  38. jrossizzle says: Jan 26, 2016 8:14 PM

    FORE People Heading it up.

  39. stevegrogannakedbootleg says: Jan 26, 2016 8:15 PM

    you say “comprehensive” I read post Super Bowl

  40. aljack88 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:15 PM

    phinfan says:
    Jan 26, 2016 7:55 PM
    He used it to repair his shoulder… Healing faster should be a ‘sweep under the rug’ thing. Hes not a linebacker abusing the roods
    ===============================
    4 game suspension for Rodney Harrison back in 2007. He used it to repair a broken arm.

  41. plum54 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:15 PM

    Truth factory: Tom Brady NEVER texted any equipment employee. Not one text from Tom to any equipment employee, not a one…maybe you need to change your name since you aren’t telling the truth.
    Besides Physics proves there was no tampering.

  42. scw1993 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:16 PM

    God forbid anyone should distract poor megahead from preparing for the SB. This is as shady as it comes…Why isn’t “her” hgh coming from her own topnotch practitioner, ob-gyn, or primary care?? He should have been tested for illegal substances immediately, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PLAYER ON ANY OTHER TEAM WOULD HAVE. But he is given special consideration and treatment.

    Manning is a cheater*….keep padding those stats, golden boy.

  43. dcpatfan says: Jan 26, 2016 8:16 PM

    Why? Nobody cares what a perennial Loser takes to enhance losing.

    Listen to the hillbillies and they’ll have you believing he really earned the 06 MVP and not Dominic Rhodes and that Richard Seymour and Jarvis Green were better defense than Dwight Freeny and Robert Mathis.

  44. wte1 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:16 PM

    I am a Patriots fan and Roger Goodell STOLE our 1st and 4th round picks and I want them back RIGHT NOW!!

  45. rolf1015 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:17 PM

    Now let’s see if the media is consistent in his next press conference. Waiting for someone to ask this question:

    This has raised a lot of uncomfortable conversations for people around this country who view you as their idol. The question they’re asking themselves is, ‘What’s up with our hero?’ Can you answer right now, is a cheater?

  46. stevegrogannakedbootleg says: Jan 26, 2016 8:17 PM

    What timing! Coming out with this right before the Super Bowl! What an outrage!
    ***********************************
    It is an outrage because ESPN didn’t play it on a loop for three days

  47. upperdecker19 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:17 PM

    In related news, the NFL has hired independent pizza proprietor Papa John to oversee the “comprehensive” investigation.

  48. revelation123 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:18 PM

    The NFL needs to investigate this and deflate gate vigorously. Oh wait, where is that Brady cell phone with all those texts to “The Deflator” when you need it?

  49. themikegun says: Jan 26, 2016 8:18 PM

    Ted Wells needs some cash for mustache wax?

  50. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Jan 26, 2016 8:19 PM

    “and most can’t appreciate the nuance.”

    Perhaps because ‘most’ have never held selective prosecution, the deliberate leaking of false information to frame a narrative, working backwards from a predetermined finding, fraud, character assassination and outright lying on the part of the commissioner himself to be synonymous with ‘nuance’

  51. warpigz says: Jan 26, 2016 8:19 PM

    Uh oh, another excuse for the Pats… They’d have won if Peyton wasn’t “juicing.” Lol

  52. wallabear says: Jan 26, 2016 8:19 PM

    Such a pity that at the end of a storied career, to have such allegations brought against you — what a party-pooper lol

  53. stealthjunk says: Jan 26, 2016 8:20 PM

    Brady cheated. The HGH investigation isn’t going to change that fact. Face it and move on instead of continuing to make excuses.

  54. realfootballfan says: Jan 26, 2016 8:21 PM

    All right guys, we didn’t find anything. We asked Peyton and he said he didn’t do anything. Let’s move on.

  55. kneedragr says: Jan 26, 2016 8:21 PM

    Why the F would his wife need all that HGH?

  56. manipuraram says: Jan 26, 2016 8:22 PM

    Yeah cause everybody has four neck surgeries than plays better than ever,”Naturally.” Strip that five headed stooge of every fake award he’s ever been given.

  57. californiaqid says: Jan 26, 2016 8:22 PM

    Will someone please tell the NFL to stop trying to re-create the entire judicial system? It is a fool’s errand and I can’t believe we’re doing this again in 2016. If the NFL wants to have all these rules, then they’d better have clear parameters of evidence. All this subjectivity without legal basis is making the NFL look bad. Focus on football.

    NFL, get your story straight or stop playing hall monitor!

  58. millarddjr says: Jan 26, 2016 8:23 PM

    This will be as “comprehensive” as Wells was “independent “

  59. solo681 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:23 PM

    “To obtain from Manning and his wife legal authorization to obtain from the Guyer Institute any and all documents or other evidence regarding the treatments they received.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    No evidence there people since the records will show some medical condition his wife had to justify her “prescription” & “treatment” with HGH.

    It is called COVER UP = From the BEGINNING

    Peyton’s wife is the perfect fall guy as = there is NOTHING the NFL can do about it.

    WAKE UP PEOPLE = GOODEL/NFL = CORRUPT

  60. aljack88 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:24 PM

    truthfactory says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:04 PM
    To all the Pats fans, would you consider it “proof” if Manning was found to be texting a guy nicknamed “The HGH supplier”?? Of course you would…

    But when Brady is texting a guy named “the deflator” who prepares the balls and took the balls in the bathroom before gametime… it was just a random coincidence.
    =================================
    The comparison would be that the ball boy brought the balls to Brady’s house first on there way to the field and definitely let the air out.

    but just a coincidence that HGH was delivered to the same residence that Peyton lived, the same Peyton who was trying to recover from neck surgeries, whom some were saying could be career ending.

  61. tindeaux says: Jan 26, 2016 8:25 PM

    haters are gonna hate. win this last game and retire!!!
    #legend

  62. tdne says: Jan 26, 2016 8:25 PM

    The NFL would never reveal anything they find in an investigation if it reflects poorly on the illustrious football Manning family. They’d only to that to Tom. I’ll never believe anything the NFL has to say. Ever. They lie.

  63. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Jan 26, 2016 8:26 PM

    truthfactory says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:04 PM
    To all the Pats fans, would you consider it “proof” if Manning was found to be texting a guy nicknamed “The HGH supplier”?? Of course you would…

    But when Brady is texting a guy named “the deflator” who prepares the balls and took the balls in the bathroom before gametime… it was just a random coincidence
    ——————————–

    Except for the part where there are NO texts between Brady and McNally (who’s actual nickname was Bird and who referred to himself as the deflator ONCE in an offseason text that the Well$/Pash repeated 17 times in their “independent” report) you really summed that up. truthfactory, more like bsfactory

  64. rolf1015 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:28 PM

    truthfactory says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:04 PM
    To all the Pats fans, would you consider it “proof” if Manning was found to be texting a guy nicknamed “The HGH supplier”?? Of course you would…
    ______________________
    Not really, but I’d be much more skeptical if the guy with the nickname was sending illegal items to the player’s spouse, and right after that time the player’s performance improved considerably. Now that would have been significant.

  65. igornathanhiggers says: Jan 26, 2016 8:28 PM

    The Patriots have lost the benefit of the doubt based on their history of cheating.

    If deflating footballs was their first and only offense to date, they would’ve gotten the benefit of the doubt too…but when you cheat to the point where Goodell has to burn the evidence, harbor and finance a serial murderer, bug visiting locker rooms, and deflate footballs to reduce fumbling, then destroy your phone? How many times have you ever destroyed your phone intentionally?

    Yea…Peyton gets the benefit of the doubt!

  66. tylawspick6 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:28 PM

    Look, he ADMITTED untraceable Chinese HGH was sent to his own residence.

    Rodney Harrison admitted to it and it was a 4 game suspension, with no test, nothing. It was the next 4 available games for said suspension. THAT is the precedent.

    Period. There is no debate.

    Where is the consistency?

  67. oiler1980 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:29 PM

    Kind of torn here.

    As a Pats fan I want my two weeks back from last year so I can enjoy my teams entry into the Super Bowl.

    To be able to watch two full weeks of all different kinds of reporting on your team is one of the best parts of getting in.

    The NFL offices and the press took those away from Pats fans. I can’t get those back.

    So, do I want this story to take off and blow away all those Broncos fans two weeks of Super Bowl hype? Of which they may never see again in their lifetime?

    I’m dunno, I’m torn..

  68. solo681 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:29 PM

    Better Ingredients = Better Pizza Head

  69. solo681 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:29 PM

    Better Ingredients = Better Pizza Head

  70. madgrace8 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:31 PM

    Patriots can’t play and their taking there deflated ball home. That is all this is..

  71. fordmandalay says: Jan 26, 2016 8:31 PM

    #megaheadgate

  72. swineflooo says: Jan 26, 2016 8:31 PM

    truthfactory says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:04 PM
    To all the Pats fans, would you consider it “proof” if Manning was found to be texting a guy nicknamed “The HGH supplier”?? Of course you would…

    But when Brady is texting a guy named “the deflator” who prepares the balls and took the balls in the bathroom before gametime… it was just a random coincidence.

    15 14

    You are a moron, brady never once texted the guy who’s nickname was the deflator. Maybe if u read more than headlines u would have a clue.

    Is it thay unfathomable for someone whose job is to inflate and deflate the ball to get it ready for the games on sunday would have that nickname.?

    But never peyton right? I mean the dude was overseas getting stem cells injected into his neck, but he would never take HGH right? Lmao idiots

  73. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 8:32 PM

    People still believe what the NFL has to say about anything?

    Is that really still a thing? LOL

  74. whatjusthapped says: Jan 26, 2016 8:32 PM

    The Patriot fans are relentless in their collective denial that their team got caught cheating twice. Of course the first one (taping the other teams) lasted 7 years and produced 3 Superbowl wins so they have that to fall back on.

  75. plum54 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:32 PM

    Stealth junk: exactly how did Tom Brady cheat? Explain please!
    Middle grade science proves there was no tampering! Guess you missed the article on this site this week debunking framegate! Plus the article in the NY Times.

  76. tb12bestqbevah says: Jan 26, 2016 8:32 PM

    warpigz says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:19 PM

    Uh oh, another excuse for the Pats… They’d have won if Peyton wasn’t “juicing.” Lol
    **********************************

    How you wish this were true. Unfortunately for you the fact of the matter is that Pats players/coaches as well as fans don’t make excuses.

    You’ll never hear BB or TB12 make an excuse. Hate all you want, but it’s true. And not many other teams can say that about their leaders.

  77. jstew0103 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:34 PM

    The evidence thus far points to Manning’s general awareness of HGH being sent to houses he owns. Based on that one can not respectfully make a full judgement. yes, something in the situation is fishy but to make snap judgements is irresponsible and ignorant (see: Cris Carter…ever). I’m a big Patriots fan and an even bigger Tom Brady fan. I honestly hope Peyton Manning is not dragged through the mud like Brady was/is. I am all for getting all the results but why call him anything other than a great QB before this information is presented? To do that would just be perpetuating what we have already seen this time last year…the League’s never ending drive to make their product a year round relevant hot topic.

  78. patsfan1820 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:36 PM

    For someone called the truthfactory you seem to leave some things out first that text to the “deflator” aka Bird was from May of 2014 the time he went into the bathroom was before the game in January of 2015 in other words there was an approximate 8 month gap between the time that the texts were sent to the alleged incident. Second my roommate the other night left his basketball in his car for an hour it went from an environment that was approximately 68 degrees to 32 degrees and guess what happened? The ball deflated as would be the same case for a football as that night the balls went from an environment that was room temperature (70 degrees approximately) to a 51 degree rainy night the ball again would naturally deflate. Face it you don’t want to hear the simple truth about this particular incident Manning admitted HGH was getting shipped in his wife’s name around the time he was recovering. Now I could believe it was for medical usage if it 1 didn’t come from an anti aging clinic and 2 if people like you didn’t bash Rodney Harrison for doing the same thing earlier in his career. Most Pats fans don’t mind disagreements or ribbing it’s hypocrisy we can’t stand and you’re showing it very blatantly as are a lot of people on this site.

  79. quitmakingstuffup says: Jan 26, 2016 8:36 PM

    I have a tough time believing that a dude as smart as PFM would have someone ship his HGH to his wife; that’d be plain careless and stupid. Why not ship it to a no name he’s not connected with?

    Maybe I’m wrong, it just seems ridiculous that he would be that reckless with his legacy on the line. It’s estimated that 50% of the league uses HGH; no chance that Manning – one of the most calculated football players of all time – makes that type of mistake, regardless of whether he’s using it or not.

    And for the record, HGH isn’t steroids, it doesn’t inflate your head size, Manning has had super head since birth; drop that ridiculous narrative.

  80. napgamer says: Jan 26, 2016 8:37 PM

    This is how it’s going to work. Two days after super bowl Peyton will be suspended for four games for hgh use and it just so happens Peyton retires after the season so no real games lost and his reputation is not tarnished by missing games and people forget about his cheating because he lost another super bowl.

  81. swineflooo says: Jan 26, 2016 8:37 PM

    igornathanhiggers says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:28 PM
    The Patriots have lost the benefit of the doubt based on their history of cheating.

    If deflating footballs was their first and only offense to date, they would’ve gotten the benefit of the doubt too…but when you cheat to the point where Goodell has to burn the evidence, harbor and finance a serial murderer, bug visiting locker rooms, and deflate footballs to reduce fumbling, then destroy your phone? How many times have you ever destroyed your phone intentionally?

    Yea…Peyton gets the benefit of the doubt!

    0 1

    Haha u r foolish. All teams video tapes signals it wasnt illegal until 2006 season and that was only from the location where it was recorded. Now u r just making up stuff about bugging lockerrooms etc.

    Do me a favor and check this years fumble statistics and tell me what u find. And u can blame mother nature for the deflation as science has already poven it

  82. kabasaman says: Jan 26, 2016 8:38 PM

    That would explain his hat size….

  83. kingkreg12 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:40 PM

    I respect the hell out of Peyton, but this isn’t a result of “Pats” fans whining. It’s a result of logical people being concerned with how differently two situations are being handled and the kind of precedent it’s setting.

    How would you feel if your team or a player on your team was treated unfairly the way Brady was. Why shouldn’t Peyton be investigated or anyone for that matter when these types of allegations are thrown out there. The league has to be objective and treat each player an organization equally.

    If the league was bowing down to the will of the Pats fans, they’d be giving back the first round pick they stole from the organization.

  84. steelbreeze676 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:40 PM

    As much credibility as if the WWE held an investigation in the ring.

  85. paulrevereshorse1775 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:40 PM

    A difference? LMAO!

    the NFL lied to reporters in creating the initial deflategate media reports. At least Charlie Sly made an attempt to retract what he now says is false.

    Think about……Charlie Sly has more integrity than the NFL

  86. cowboysallday says: Jan 26, 2016 8:41 PM

    Have you seen how weak is throw power is now? It literally takes all of his body to throw a bullet…this guy doesn’t take hgh

  87. PFT loves the Steelers says: Jan 26, 2016 8:41 PM

    I’m out of these comments before I drown in Pats fan tears. What a whiny annoying fan base.

  88. swineflooo says: Jan 26, 2016 8:42 PM

    Oh and the patriots has the lowest fumble ratio this year. How u like them apples?

  89. 46namredyps11 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:42 PM

    Actually ampats it is a sham. I am on the side that says the process should play out before we do anything, not fair to smear a player just because you don’t like him. But at the end of day the people, much like yourself who could care less about if Brady did it or about the integrity of the game for that matter, just wanted anything to be done to stop the Patriots. Even if it meant pretending this case of suspected gamesmanship was some egregious crime.

  90. raiderhater719 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:44 PM

    Zombiepatriot…. Manning a golden boy?? Everyone knows chump bradyvis the leagues golden boy. Rules are made for him. We all know he knew the balls were deflated and what happens a slap on the wrist.. now ask yourself “who’s the real golden boy?”

  91. bullcharger says: Jan 26, 2016 8:44 PM

    The USADA will get the documents. The NFL won’t have to. Once they are involved in something whatever is there will come out.

    A shame for Denver fans to have to go through the same hell that we Patriots fans had to endure last year at this time.

    There is a strong desire in the current culture to build people into heroes and then when they get big enough to tear them down. It’s a shame.

    It’s not a revelation that NFL players have taken HGH. So many guys that are well respected have been caught or admitted taking PEDs.

  92. blackandbluedivision says: Jan 26, 2016 8:45 PM

    They going to find that it’s “probable than not” that he used HGH if he or his wife decline to provide that information?

  93. limakey says: Jan 26, 2016 8:45 PM

    Pat fans, what proof or evidence do you have that the drugs were not for Mrs. Manning and that she did not in fact use them? You all went insane defending Brady when he refused to turn over his cell phone, but now you demand Mrs. Manning turn over her medical records? You all said that the mere fact Brady denied any knowledge was good enough to prove he did not know any thing was good enough for you to prove his innocence. You all said that both JM and JJ denied having anything to do with deflating footballs was proof enough for you. It appears to me that because you do no accept Peyton at his word proves that many of you are a tad two faced.

  94. bullcharger says: Jan 26, 2016 8:46 PM

    raiderhater719 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:44 PM
    Zombiepatriot…. Manning a golden boy?? Everyone knows chump bradyvis the leagues golden boy. Rules are made for him. We all know he knew the balls were deflated and what happens a slap on the wrist.. now ask yourself “who’s the real golden boy?”

    ——-

    Deflated footballs is nothing. This Peyton thing is also nothing.

    Just wish people could enjoy the sport instead do turning it into a sideshow.

  95. dan7800 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:47 PM

    What we learned form deflate gate is that Manning should have destroyed his phone, all evidence, and refused to cooperate. He’d get off scott free then.

  96. realestateguy1983 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:48 PM

    If Brady took HGH, he would certainly have a lot more than one super bowl ring…oh wait, he does. GOAT

  97. imodan says: Jan 26, 2016 8:50 PM

    ampatsisahypocrite says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:02 PM
    What timing! Coming out with this right before the Super Bowl! What an outrage!

    I’m sure all Patriots fans will protest this sham of justice the same way they objected to the NFL doing exactly the same thing with their guy last January — because surely you’re about justice in general, not just your narrow self interests as a fan.

    Right Pats fans?
    ————————————————–
    Funny deflection. Unlike your reaction to the false allegations towards Brady which you accepted with blind faith to be true you instead attack Pats fans who in the end turned out to be 100% correct while never ever thinking for one moment that just maybe Manning indeed might have cheated. You’re the perfect example of the double standard.

  98. bullcharger says: Jan 26, 2016 8:50 PM

    What’s with all the deflategate talk? This is about Manning being investigated by the NFL who now are about to create a media circus, do nothing about it before the Super Bowl and ruin 2 great week. Oh wait, that’s what it has to do with deflategate.

  99. plum54 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:51 PM

    Last year Savanah Guthrie asked Obama if he thought the Patriots cheated during the pre game show. Will someone be asking Obama if he thinks Manning cheated ? Very doubtful, there’s that double standard.

  100. imodan says: Jan 26, 2016 8:53 PM

    PFT loves the Steelers says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:41 PM
    I’m out of these comments before I drown in Pats fan tears. What a whiny annoying fan base——————————————————–
    You’ll be back using another one of your phony names spewing the same old tired stuff. We’re pats fans, we’re smarter than you.

  101. plum54 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:54 PM

    Dan7800: what we learned from framegate is “Tom cooperated fully” per Wells, upgraded to a iPhone 6, and got railroaded.
    Fixed it for you.

  102. paulrevereshorse1775 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:54 PM

    I can see where this comprehensive investigation is going.
    The NFL is going to claim it was Brady’s HGH that was being sent to Manning’s house.

  103. trina16 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:55 PM

    “WITH NO SUBPOENA POWER, there’s one way to get the information that goes directly to the heart of the allegation that Manning’s wife received HGH for use by Peyton: To obtain from Manning and his wife legal authorization to obtain from the Guyer Institute any and all documents or other evidence regarding the treatments they received.”
    —————

    Well, that never stopped the haters and media pundits from bashing Brady when he refused to give Wells his personal phone and emails at the beginning of the investigation.

    According to hater logic, if he’s innocent, they should give their authorization to look at all documents from the Guyer Institute.

    I really don’t care if he did it or not, but the doble standard and hypocrisy are revolting.

  104. rolf1015 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:55 PM

    igornathanhiggers says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:28 PM
    The Patriots have lost the benefit of the doubt based on their history of cheating.
    ___________________
    So the Patriots history of cheating consists of:

    1. Spygate – videotaping signals from an unauthorized location during open games (if they instead did this from inside the coaches booth it would have been allowed).

    2. Deflategate – Wells Reports itself states that due to the IGL, the footballs should have measured between 11.52 – 11.32 psi. On the gauge Walt Anderson recalls using the average was 11.49 psi, so on the HIGH END of the range.

    Manning is now a Bronco, so shouldn’t we look at their “history of cheating” – PEDs, Salary Cap violations, taping
    practices of opposing teams, etc.

    If deflating footballs was their first and only offense to date, they would’ve gotten the benefit of the doubt too…but when you cheat to the point where Goodell has to burn the evidence, harbor and finance a serial murderer, bug visiting locker rooms, and deflate footballs to reduce fumbling, then destroy your phone? How many times have you ever destroyed your phone intentionally?

  105. senatorblutarsky says: Jan 26, 2016 8:56 PM

    NFL conducting “comprehensive” Peyton Manning investigation
    ______________

    I sure hope so. It’s about time everyone is shown what a sniveling cheat of a coward manning is. Hiding behind his wife’s skirts. He’s a self-centered, greedy, phony Swamp Boy. The only things he’s ever really cared about are money and individual records.

  106. izzysydbas says: Jan 26, 2016 8:57 PM

    Ah the Pats fans were quiet for a day drowning their sorrows but now I see they are back to their smug selves.

  107. aljack88 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:59 PM

    raiderhater719 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:44 PM
    Zombiepatriot…. Manning a golden boy?? Everyone knows chump bradyvis the leagues golden boy. Rules are made for him. We all know he knew the balls were deflated and what happens a slap on the wrist.. now ask yourself “who’s the real golden boy?”
    ================================
    all these deflated balls… how come no one ever noticed them? An official places the ball on the field prior to every play…. Brady has thrown interceptions before…. The Colts tried to say that Jackson told them the ball seemed funny when he made his int, but he flat out denied saying that – he said the ball seemed normal to him. Harbaugh originally stated the Pats’ kicking balls were too soft – but then it was pointed out to him that the game officials are the only ones who handle them.

  108. bostonloyalty says: Jan 26, 2016 8:59 PM

    So what’s this GATE gonna b called?
    #HghGate
    #Headgate
    #CheaterGate
    #HealthyGate
    #RecoverGate

    None got that special rang to it,
    News outlets will never make this a big deal.
    Mainly because the NFL ain’t feeding them with crap reports

  109. paulrevereshorse1775 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:00 PM

    limakey says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:45 PM
    Pat fans, what proof or evidence do you have that the drugs were not for Mrs. Manning and that she did not in fact use them? You all went insane defending Brady when he refused to turn over his cell phone, but now you demand Mrs. Manning turn over her medical records? You all said that the mere fact Brady denied any knowledge was good enough to prove he did not know any thing was good enough for you to prove his innocence. You all said that both JM and JJ denied having anything to do with deflating footballs was proof enough for you. It appears to me that because you do no accept Peyton at his word proves that many of you are a tad two faced.

    ———

    The NFL is the one that set the new standard, not Pats fans.

  110. edelmanfanclub says: Jan 26, 2016 9:02 PM

    To be honest, I don’t think Mannings HGH use or Bradys possible intentional deflation of footballs is a big deal. However, if Goodell doesn’t investigate this, it just shows how corrupt the NFL is.

    He spent over 5 million on an investigation and suspended Brady for conduct detrimental to the game, which he didn’t have the power to do over a equipment violation. He needs to address this fairly and see if Manning actually used HGH, which does warrant an suspension because it is a PED. I trust him thoroughly to not do the right thing, of course.

    Going back to New England. The Patriots gets fined and docked draft picks for things which may/may not give a competitive advantage. (Spygate was legal until 06, and NE decided to do it 07, anyways. Yet New England essentially got their hands cut off.)

    I don’t see how he could rationally throw this Manning thing out the window. I am sure he will find a way and yet remain commissioner, which is the worst part.

    Anyone who says Goodell/NFL treatment of Brady was fair, (while you watch them sweep this Manning report under the rug) has let the Patriots success and hatred for them hurt their ability to think rationally.

  111. tx526 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:02 PM

    Well now he’s definitely retiring.

  112. YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob says: Jan 26, 2016 9:03 PM

    Personally, I don’t care what these guys do to entertain us. As long they aren’t hurting anybody, it’s fine with me. I want to see Manning on HGH. If it helps him, good. Maybe it helped Rodney Harrison. So what?

  113. nyneal says: Jan 26, 2016 9:04 PM

    What a joke the NFL is.

    Goodell is like Hamilton Burger, the prosecutor who lost every case he fought against Perry Mason. He’ll keep trying to dig up stuff on his star players, all to the detriment of the league. But he doesn’t care. He’s being paid over 40 million per year to destroy the league by the brain dead owners.

    Goodell is the worst Commissioner the NFL has ever had, and it isn’t even close. I hope Peyton Manning wins the Super Bowl and when he’s handed the Lombardi Trophy, I hope leans over to Commissioner Goodell and tells him to stick his investigation where the sun doesn’t shine, and announces his retirement.
    Peyton Manning has been a class act throughout his career and has made the NFL millions of dollars. For Goodell or anyone else to buy into this crap that he did something illegal is ridiculous. It’s another witch hunt, just like the Tom Brady witch hunt.

    Goodell is a rat. A lousy, stinking rat.

  114. factman66 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:04 PM

    Most can’t appreciate the nuance?
    Most media refuse to acknowledge the fact that the Patriots are convicted cheaters. They lost their benefit of the doubt and respect league-wide. The most obvious difference is that Manning has never been associated with any wrongdoing, and the Patriots have repeatedly for about 15 years.

  115. streetyson says: Jan 26, 2016 9:05 PM

    No need to waste millions or chase the Guyver Inst, you just ask one query: Peyton, can you please provide an account for Ashley’s HGH shipments & use? Failure to provide an answer with at least some supporting documentation will be taken by the NFL that you “more probably than not” cheated.

    Tough-love, yes, but far, far better treatment than Brady ever got over slight changes in PSI levels that can be explained by the laws of physics. And don’t forget, Brady haters, that Brady offered up his phone records at his appeal and Goodell refused, preferring to change Brady’s oath-given testimony, and simply say he “destroyed” his phone.

    And no need to even investigate Aaron Rodgers – for he already admitted to running an underhand ball inflation scheme.

  116. TeeHeeLOLatPatszHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 9:07 PM

    dtp15 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 7:48 PM
    Its more probable than not Peyton Manning gets a pass because for whatever reason hes infallible.
    ****
    Cry me a river sweetheart

  117. solo681 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:08 PM

    To all the Fartheads that have their head stuck in an unpleasant spot = LISTEN UP

    1.) Ted Wells had all the text messages from the “Deflator” & Brady

    2.) Ted Wells said = “We do NOT want your phone”

    3.) Goodel added to the NFL FARSE & CORRUPTION by saying he suddenly (AFTER Brady was given permission by Wells to discard his phone ) that he needed it for “so-called” evidence that they ALREADY had.

    4.) This was Goodel’s proof of Guilt by IPO = Ignorant Public Opinion

  118. factman66 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:08 PM

    Florio, at this point it’s obvious that you’re a Pats fan. Please stop letting your personal affairs affect your football blog. Deflategate was a year ago, your boy Brady will always be considered a cheater. Get over it and stop abusing your media status to push your personal beliefs.

  119. boogerhut says: Jan 26, 2016 9:08 PM

    Try sitting on a ice pack Mike.

  120. trina16 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:11 PM

    limakey says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:45 PM
    Pat fans, what proof or evidence do you have that the drugs were not for Mrs. Manning and that she did not in fact use them? You all went insane defending Brady when he refused to turn over his cell phone, but now you demand Mrs. Manning turn over her medical records?

    ———-

    Most of us actually don’t care one way or the other and are waiting for a REAL and TRULY independent investigation with actual FACTS. It’s hypocrites like you that bash one player without evidence, while protecting another under the same cincunstances.

    Tom Brady’s word weren’t good enough but Peyton’s are? And please, don’t bring the organizations into this. If you are the janitor of a company whose president is accused of a Ponzi scheme that doesn’t make you a scammer. Brady had never been accused of anything in his career and you people latched onto what the NFL wanted you to believe because your minds couldn’t deal with the fact that the #199 pick could be that good.

    That’s mostly our ire in all of this, the doble standard of the NFL, media pundits and haters like you.

  121. patsfan1820 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:12 PM

    Hey ZombieRaider ever heard of something called the Ty Law Rule? You know the rule that doesn’t allow defenders to touch receivers beyond 5 yards? That’s a Manning rule also the defenseless receiver penalty began to be enforced after the Garcon and Austin Collie hits. I count two rules made for Manning and the Ty Law Rule is what finally allowed Manning to win his first ring.

  122. unoduotres says: Jan 26, 2016 9:17 PM

    I am getting hungry reading these esoteric comments regarding did he or didn’t he. Does anybody have Papa John’s take out number?

  123. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 9:19 PM

    When wil Patriot Hater’s wussy team fold? It’s outrageous that the GOAT has to put up with such puny little wussies as competition. He shouldn’t have to stoop to that level.

    #WellHeShouldnt

  124. TeeHeeLOLatPatszHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 9:19 PM

    TeeHee
    Can’t touch Manning
    1-3 in championship games

    #3rdbestisntbad
    #montanamanningbothbetter
    #bedtimesoon
    #mommywhydidbradyfail

  125. descendency says: Jan 26, 2016 9:19 PM

    In other words, NFL hoping this story goes away (potentially with a Manning retirement after the Super Bowl).

  126. wwwmattcom says: Jan 26, 2016 9:19 PM

    If this was about Tom, then yes, investigate, but it’s about Peyton, let it go, everyone likes that guy.

  127. vikingforlife says: Jan 26, 2016 9:22 PM

    Peyton is believable because he has never been accused of cheating before. Fans who work in the healthcare industry know that many players go overseas for stem cell treatment (NO BIG DEAL). I really don’t understand this desire to crucify this man. Are Patriot fans that bitter? Your team and coaches are proven cheaters. Enough said. GET OVER IT. Leave everyone else alone!

  128. rolf1015 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:29 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 9:04 PM
    The most obvious difference is that Manning has never been associated with any wrongdoing
    _____________________
    Guess your definition of wrongdoing doesn’t include his 1996 incident at Tennessee where he “was accused of sexual assault by a female trainer”.

    “Manning settled out of court with the trainer in 2003. She came after Manning again in 2005 after he violated the settlement by talking to ESPN about it.”

  129. skinsprinting says: Jan 26, 2016 9:30 PM

    plum54 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:10 PM
    Phinfan you just don’t get it! HGH is a banned substance, it’s a performance enhancing drug( PED). It’s illegal to take. End of story.

    —————————————————————–

    plum54 you don’t get it …HGH was NOT a banned substance when it was alleged that Manning. Look it up

  130. peterguzu1234 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:34 PM

    Glad that NFL is investigating, but this going to come down whether Manning and his wife will give investigators permission to see their medical records. The Mannings have their right to privacy, but so did Brady. Brady protecting and his family’s privacy by not turning over his phone is as justifiable as the Mannings protecting their privacy. If you believe Brady is guilty because he protected his privacy then you must, if you are consistent in your logic, assume Manning is guilty. After all Manning is withholding evidence just like you assume Brady did by keeping his phone away from Wells and the NFL.

  131. solo681 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:35 PM

    “But the HGH was for my pregnant wife” does NOT absolve Peyton from PED use and those *TD *records are no longer legit = ***********

    Based on Goodel/NFL policy of “More likely then Not = NO EVIDENCE NEEDED for Prosecution & Guilty Verdict then 100% Peyton DESERVES an immediate four game suspension and he has the right to appeal.

    Didn’t Tom Brady take OATH to Tell the TRUTH in a legal hearing that could lead to Perjury if he was not telling the truth ???

    Peyton, please raise your right hand……

  132. plum54 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:36 PM

    The continued ignorance of posters is incredible. There were NO text messages from Tom to JJ or Bird. Not a one. Besides Wells said he did not need Toms phone, and under the CBA Tom did not have to give Wells his phone. Seeing how the NFL leaked emails, good thing Tom didn’t hand over his phone.
    Middle grade science proves there was NO tampering!!!

  133. kingpel says: Jan 26, 2016 9:44 PM

    I feel the same way about this scandal as I did all the others. I don’t care.

  134. solo681 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:46 PM

    ATTENTION CLASS:
    Please answer the question correctly using the multiple choice answers

    A.) #cheatergate
    B.) #TD-PEDgate
    or
    C.) #HeadGateHomer

    OH YEAH = #HeadGateHomer definitely wins it

  135. bleedingfacemask says: Jan 26, 2016 9:48 PM

    “With no subpoena power, there’s one way to get the information that goes directly to the heart of the allegation that Manning’s wife received HGH for use by Peyton: call TMZ.”

  136. headwoundharry says: Jan 26, 2016 9:49 PM

    “Peyton, it’s Tom. Listen man, you gotta destroy your cell and drop your hard drives in acid. Do it now man, before it’s too late. You can hang here at the compound if you would like.”

  137. wtfru2 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:50 PM

    The prosecution is “Neck and Neck” with the persecution!

  138. solo681 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:52 PM

    Will ESPN Mortensen leak out that 11 of 12 needles found in Peyton’s possession tested positive for HGH ???

    Will the National News Media on TV & Radio go rabid repeating “11 of 12 needles had HGH in them and Peytons DNA on them” for weeks and months on and on……….???

  139. mrneto72 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:57 PM

    Suspend him for the Super Bowl….

  140. solo681 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:58 PM

    Jerry Rice, Chris Mortensen, Chris Carter and Mark Brunnel stand behind Peyton with their support of his innocence.

    Please pass the Stickum/HGH/11 of 12/My Wife the Fall Guy/Tears of Sorrow

  141. charger383 says: Jan 26, 2016 9:59 PM

    why does Goodell want to destroy great players?

  142. thegonz13 says: Jan 26, 2016 10:03 PM

    I got 20 bucks that says Ted Wells’ phone is about to ring again…

  143. pastanow says: Jan 26, 2016 10:07 PM

    Peyton has too many friends in the media. This story will get buried.

  144. Vir Publius says: Jan 26, 2016 10:09 PM

    I’m getting tired of the complaining from Tom Brady fans. Half of this article turned into a pointless comparison of Brady and Manning that does nothing but throw shade on Peyton the week he pulled off an insane upset of the Pats and is setting up to have a storybook ending. Responsible journalism is about conveying facts, not disjointed comparisons to draw more debate over who is better between the two QBs.8

  145. solo681 says: Jan 26, 2016 10:10 PM

    Peyton can do a UPS commercial = ‘What can Brown with HGH do for you?’

  146. mtgblue1979 says: Jan 26, 2016 10:16 PM

    I’m so sick of the crybaby patriots fans. Their team is KNOWN to cheat. Spygate, Deflategate….but then they beat their chests and say pretty boy and darth hoody didn’t do anything wrong. “What’s the big deal? All they did was record practices, and deflate footballs” but when someone POSSIBLY uses something to heal an injury, they come out in droves, pointing their fingers, and brandishing their torches. Guess what? You still can’t beat the Giants in a super bowl, and you still lost to yet another Manning in a big game. Denver was the better team. You lost your draft picks because you cheated. if Peyton did take HGH, it’s still not a big deal because it didn’t enhance performance. So please kindly shut the hell up. Sincerely, fans of legitimate teams.

  147. solo681 says: Jan 26, 2016 10:21 PM

    Here is how Peyton can be aquitted by the NFL = All he has to do is say that the HGH was for the Teams footballs and there are no NFL Rules against footballs receiving HGH injections.

    ESPN Mortensen, Chris Carter & Mark Brunnel will all believe him and speak highly of Peyton’s concern for healthier footballs because they reduce concussions.

    Peyton receives the Nobel Peace Price and Obama is present for the ceremony.

    After the ceremony they all get travel to NYC Appellate Court to unanimously agree that Tom Brady cheated = some how, some way.

  148. naes says: Jan 26, 2016 10:22 PM

    *Sing this to the Nationwide jingle*

    I bet they don’t find a thing

  149. joecool16 says: Jan 26, 2016 10:50 PM

    Boy it’s a lot of salty patriot fans commenting here. Your season is over get over it. Just mad because Peyton Manning is in the super bowl and the boy wonder isn’t.

  150. 94niners says: Jan 26, 2016 10:54 PM

    What if Manning’s wife was using it for fertility purposes?

  151. j0esixpack says: Jan 26, 2016 10:55 PM

    The “nuance” is the irony that it’s the NFL and the owners who have been proven to be blatantly unfair in how they treat teams and players

    Although they claim to act to preserve the integrity of the game, it is they who tarnish the shield.

    The NFL bylaws state that only a person of unquestioned integrity can be Commissioner. Will some reporter ask each owner if he feels Goodell has unquestioned integrity after two judges have stated that he’s a liar?

    Don’t expect others to follow the rules if the owners won’t follow their own rules

  152. taintedsaints2009 says: Jan 26, 2016 10:58 PM

    I have no problem if he took hgh if it helped his neck heal. If it’s cheating, fine, but the guy is not even 40. He still has a lot of life left and I would want the best options to heal a major surgery like his. If the nfl finds him guilty, I don’t see it as more than a slap on the wrist…the guy might even be retired by the time the investigation is done.

  153. bradygirl12 says: Jan 26, 2016 10:58 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 9:08 PM

    Florio, at this point it’s obvious that you’re a Pats fan. Please stop letting your personal affairs affect your football blog. Deflategate was a year ago, your boy Brady will always be considered a cheater. Get over it and stop abusing your media status to push your personal beliefs.

    ———–

    I believe he is a Steelers fan. It’s a fact. It’s also a fact that last year at this time, “Deflategate” was the headline,not the Super Bowl itself. It was a major distraction,and still is a year later. Does the league want a story book ending where Peyton rides off into the sunset with his 2nd ring,or are they going to drag him through the mud when he has this huge game coming up? They sure did it to Tom Brady,and the Wells report proved nothing. Brady and the Pats persevered,and they won the game. I wonder if Peyton will text Tom and ask him how he got through it.

  154. jaxon51 says: Jan 26, 2016 11:00 PM

    Roger : ” I destroyed the evidence because it was consistent with what the Broncos/ Mannings told us”
    Manning and Dungy were smart enough to not get caught with all the intel they stole and had radio-ed into Mannings helmet after allotted timeframe vs. Bears in their Super Bowl win.
    But if they had been caught then Roger would have Ted Wells on this.
    And the Manning Fan Club would have their own love/hate relationship with Roger like NE does.
    Remember the sweetheart deal he gave them after corrupt wins vs. Carolina/ Philadelphia/ STLouis in those SBowls (love)? And later the Deflategate investigation that Roger ” Marcia- Clarked” ? (hate)….. What franchise wouldn’t trade $1.75 million in fines and a few draft picks for 4 Lombardies?

  155. chargerdillon says: Jan 26, 2016 11:03 PM

    Hire Robert Kraft as your defense attorney. He’s been able to get away with everything for quite awhile now.

  156. RE LEE says: Jan 26, 2016 11:06 PM

    How much is the NFL spending? Anything on Colts injury report? Where is the PSI random testing report?

  157. hdahs143 says: Jan 26, 2016 11:09 PM

    Comprehensive investigation on a hearsay allegation on which the sole accuser has recanted his story? Par for the course.

    P.S. Pats fans. Brady’s suspension was not overturned due to innocence, but for being denied due process. Takes a lot of arrogance to think people are dumb enough to just buy the idea that “the deflator” is a guy on a diet.

  158. ritter22 says: Jan 26, 2016 11:10 PM

    somehow the Patriots are brought into this.Peyton Manning is a CHEATER,you haters actually think the Pats fans are behind this,you all need help.Manning would NOT be able to play without that.Vonn Miller is a Cheater,6 game suspension for taking PED’S then trying to cover it up.D.Wolfe suspened in early in season.The Broncos are CHEATERS and anyone that thinks the Pats organization is classlee because they drafted Hernandez is nuts.He was drafted BEFORE the murders.Your minds are so warped that you blame NE for everything.The Broncheaters.

  159. tomrad70 says: Jan 26, 2016 11:22 PM

    I expect football fans of non-Patriot teams to troll Patriot fans.

    It takes a special kind of blind idiot to troll Florio who is about as objective an NFL commentator as you’ll find. If you think he’s doing anything less than calling it like it is, you have an agenda somewhere below the truth.

  160. spillertime21 says: Jan 26, 2016 11:38 PM

    Pats fans are ridiculous. You got caught cheating twice and don’t have to give the SB trophies back, even tho the Pats should give them back.
    Any Pats fan that has anything bad to say about goodell apparently forgets the part of history where he threw the hoodie and Kraft a huge bone by destroying YEARS of tapes where the Pats illegally filmed opponents (belli-cheat admitted as much.) This saved that franchise w the most front running fans in all of sports even further humiliation.
    Thank your lucky stars for goodell. If he was more interested in the truth than protecting the shield, the Pats would have (at least) 3 less trophies in their case.
    Thoughts?

  161. musicfootballprogramming says: Jan 26, 2016 11:59 PM

    Patriots never cheated, only railroaded for being too good. Yes, in 2007 as well.

    With one exception: Rodney Harrison. HGH was shipped to his house, so he got suspended for four games.

    Hmm, looks like just because they weren’t testing didn’t mean he couldn’t get suspended. Unless the NFL made that up just for the Pats as well.

  162. nwhmpshr says: Jan 27, 2016 12:03 AM

    as a pats fan i want to see peyton dragged trough the mud exactly as tb12 was. you guys all jumped on the pats with glee for a year no matter the facts so lets do it to peyton now.we want draft picks too and world headlines every day leading up to super bowl.

  163. dexx57 says: Jan 27, 2016 12:13 AM

    Amazing to see all the Patriots hates. jealous of our GOAT qb and coach much?

  164. tbone4444 says: Jan 27, 2016 12:30 AM

    Every Patriot Super Bowl win has an asterisk as the organization has been caught cheating twice…undeniably to any neutral observer. AND ironically every Denver super bowl has one as well. They were fined for cheating the salary cap after both SB wins in the 90’s….hmmm. Two high class organizations…

  165. The Metal Pigeon says: Jan 27, 2016 12:38 AM

    So Peyton used HGH, it made for some good entertaining seasons of him on the Broncos. Who really cares?

  166. goatbrady says: Jan 27, 2016 1:46 AM

    runtheball says:
    Jan 26, 2016 7:54 PM

    He should stand at the podium on media day in his boxers. Anyone who looks at that physique will know he is not taking HGH.

    _______________________________

    I can say from personal experience taking steroids and Growth for a number of years, nobody takes Growth Hormone to build their physique. Growth Hormone is used by athletes for the sole purpose of recovering faster from injury. That’s pretty much the only reason they use it.

    Growth Hormone taken on it’s own doesn’t do very much for your physique unless you’re taking ridiculously high amount. If someone wanted to build a body worth looking at, traditional anabolic steroids are way cheaper and way more effective.

    The healing benefits of Growth Hormone are likely why this investigation is taking place. Doping agencies aren’t THAT inept. Manning had a severe injury in his foot that took him out and he came back in pretty fast for a guy his age. I’m not saying he took it, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

    Just from a personal standpoint, I know a good friend who is a competing bodybuilder who had a severe tear of his tricep. His doctor told him that he’d likely wouldn’t be able to do full training for at least 8 months. After 3 months of high doses of Growth Horomone, it was completely healed.

    Just something to think about

  167. goatbrady says: Jan 27, 2016 1:54 AM

    Also, unfortunately for Peyton, nobody that is accused of using drugs, especially of the performance enhancing nature are ever given the benefit of the doubt.

    Steroids and other drugs lumped into that category are public enemy #1 when it comes to competing athletes. Nobody remembers Phil Neikro, but everyone knows Barry Bonds.

  168. daytontriangles says: Jan 27, 2016 3:12 AM

    phinfan says:
    Jan 26, 2016 7:55 PM

    He used it to repair his shoulder… Healing faster should be a ‘sweep under the rug’ thing. Hes not a linebacker abusing the roids
    __________________________

    And if this headline was about Brady instead of Manning, you would be calling for a lifetime ban, both from the game the the HoF.

  169. chadisme417 says: Jan 27, 2016 3:38 AM

    I’m glad Al Jazeera took time away from promoting terrorism to lie about Peyton Manning. Al Jazeera.

  170. sidelinecameraman says: Jan 27, 2016 5:16 AM

    Unfortunately if Ashley Manning did recieve HGH even it is for her (who knows why) it’s going to be scrutinized more so than normal. At this point I hope it’s a wild goose chase because if it does it’ll damage the NFL tremendously and forget about what it’ll do to Peyton.

  171. selfpromotingqb says: Jan 27, 2016 5:59 AM

    Once Peyton hired Ari Fleisher and he says its not a story all of his media minions fall right back in line and pretend like nothing happened.
    Its like he is the godfather of the media mafia hahah.

  172. holeinone09 says: Jan 27, 2016 6:36 AM

    To me, here is one important difference in the NFL being able to get information. Deflategate involved their own equipment at one of their own games. Peyton’s situation involves an outside organization and information protected under health privacy laws. That seems to be very different circumstances to me that might impact how the NFL can approach them.

  173. bostonbadass says: Jan 27, 2016 7:06 AM

    Never gonna happen he’s not a patriot

  174. sundayfunday1230 says: Jan 27, 2016 7:31 AM

    What a bunch of BS. If this had been anyone other than Manning, especially Brady, everyone would be up in arms. He’s was taking an illegal substance. Where are the calls for “cheater?” Please. What a double standard. The blatant favoritism is embarrassing.

  175. animalkindness says: Jan 27, 2016 7:45 AM

    Um, was there no drug testing on PFM any time during this time frame? I truly believe his wife was taking the HGH for other reasons than to play football. And there is a little thing called HIPPA.

  176. rollotomasi14 says: Jan 27, 2016 7:54 AM

    The Manning apologists are hilarious. The hypocrisy is overwhelming.

  177. animalkindness says: Jan 27, 2016 7:57 AM

    TB to PFM after Pats loss to Broncos: “Dude smash your cell, it works every time”.

  178. jimmyt says: Jan 27, 2016 8:03 AM

    “Why are they demonizing medicine? It would be simple enough for a doctor to develop a prescribed dosage range of HGH and other anabolic agents during a players rehab phase.”

    Doctors do prescribe it for many awful debilitating problems so horrific it is worth the risk, for people over 40, not so your favorite athlete can get back on the field quicker.

  179. davebarnes21 says: Jan 27, 2016 8:16 AM

    clearly deceptive

  180. rjg427 says: Jan 27, 2016 8:20 AM

    of course the NFL will hide #ForeheadGate under the covers to protect their darling.

  181. rportkid says: Jan 27, 2016 8:25 AM

    The one thing we all know is…Nothing the NFL announces can be believed. Nothing. So why pay any attention to anything they say?

  182. 4sbtitles says: Jan 27, 2016 8:27 AM

    The funniest thing that has happened in this whole deflate-stupidity is when the NFL became concerned with the footballs losing air pressure during the Seattle – Minnesota playoff game. Apparently now the NFL agrees with the Ideal Gas Law. In the Wells Report they had an expert company state that the Ideal Gas Law doesn’t work, then again this is the same company that said second hand smoke is ok. I wonder why the media never mentioned this story?

  183. tncheese says: Jan 27, 2016 8:28 AM

    Leave him alone, at least till after the Super Bowl.

  184. yette1 says: Jan 27, 2016 8:33 AM

    NFL and Comprehensive Investigation should never be used in the same sentence.

    Perhaps this is a means to get more funding to Ted Wells and his firm for the fake report he produced last year?

  185. iamapatsfan says: Jan 27, 2016 8:39 AM

    factman66 says:Jan 26, 2016 9:08 PM

    Florio, at this point it’s obvious that you’re a Pats fan. Please stop letting your personal affairs affect your football blog. Deflategate was a year ago, your boy Brady will always be considered a cheater. Get over it and stop abusing your media status to push your personal beliefs.

    ——-

    How long have you been at PFT? A year? Just since defamegate? lol.

    If there’s one thing, he most definitely is not a Pats fan. Read articles about them from 2-4 years ago.

    Florio is a hater of how the NFL screwed with the Pats as an organization and the fans as a whole, playing to hater logic rather than being scientific about it. For him, it’s all about how the NFL tried to beat it’s own system, faield miserably, but is somehow still trying. It’s his lawyering getting in the way of his reporting, not his Pats fandom. Because there isn’t any of that lol.

  186. rconatser1 says: Jan 27, 2016 8:53 AM

    The “source” admitted to and was proven to have lied. The “journalist” has no facts whatsoever.

    Deflategate: video of Pats employee taking balls into toilet out of camera range. Fact
    Brady destroyed phone to keep from turning it over to the NFL. Fact.
    Texts between two Pats employees admitting to tampering with the balls. Fact

    Big difference here.

  187. realdealsteel says: Jan 27, 2016 8:56 AM

    So their conducting an investigation? So what? He’s only going to play one more game anyway and he’s done.

    No one’s opinion of Peyton is going to change if he’s found guilty of using HGH. As a matter of fact, it will make him look better because it shows he was doing everything in his power to remain on the field with all those neck injuries.

    Because of the fact that football is a spartan sport; a collision sport ; HGH needs to be legal for all football players. They need to be able to heal as fast as possible to get back to playing. Their contracts are not 100% guaranteed like Baseball & Basketball so they need to be able to get back and earn their money as fast as possible.

    I am not a Peyton Manning fan by any stretch but trying to heal faster is not performance enhancing in my book.

  188. rideforjesus says: Jan 27, 2016 9:01 AM

    Really???? Comprehensive Investigation????

    Investigator: Good Morning Mr. Manning

    Peyton: Good Day sir

    Investigator: Did you take at any time HGH during your career?

    Peyton: Good Day sir, no Sir I did not.

    Investigator: Thank your Mr. manning for your complete and thoroughly honest answers to our investigation. Have a nice day.

    Yeah ….. it is a one way street … plain as day…..

  189. dynastyposeiden says: Jan 27, 2016 9:13 AM

    Comprehensive? yeah, I think the investigation went something like this:
    Investigator: “Are you Peyton Manning
    Manning: “Yes”
    Investigator: “Well, I believe that about wraps things up, I’m starving”

    this exactly … peytie nods and says good I have a commercial to shoot anyway.

    when bonds had a career year at 37 we now know why … no other explaination is believable in this case as well

  190. Ed Desautels says: Jan 27, 2016 9:17 AM

    So, we can expect the NFL to soon release slanted, character-damaging leaks soon?

  191. sailbum7 says: Jan 27, 2016 9:34 AM

    The big difference between the two is that with the deflated balls issue they had evidence that clearly showed Brady was aware of, and participating in what was going on. So far, the NFL has nothing other than some suspicions that Manning did anything wrong. Will further investigation turn up evidence against Manning, we will have to wait and see.

    Another part of the equation is that the Patriots had already been nailed on other occasions doing things that were not allowed. This elevated things with the deflated ball issue because it was seen as one more instance of the team doing things that were against the rules, not just one player. When you play for a team that has a reputation like the Patriots, you need to be that much more careful to keep everything clean. You know that even a hint of something wrong going on is going to draw immediate scrutiny from the league because of the past bad behavior. Manning is playing for a team that does not have that same bad reputation, so the league was not quite so quick to believe rumor and inuendo as they might have been if there had been a history of issues.

  192. elvoid says: Jan 27, 2016 9:43 AM

    All this has spurred from a “accusation” thrown at Manning so indirectly that it was not much better than a “So when did you stop beating your wife?” question.

    For the record, “deflate-gate” was just as ridiculous.

  193. mathprof84 says: Jan 27, 2016 10:06 AM

    The big difference between the two is that with the deflated balls issue they had evidence that clearly showed Brady was aware of, and participating in what was going on. So far, the NFL has nothing other than some suspicions that Manning did anything wrong. Will further investigation turn up evidence against Manning, we will have to wait and see.

    ========
    I would maintain the opposite. There is legitimately concerning, though not yet completely damning evidence that HGH was shipped to Manning’s residence, and zero evidence that any footballs were intentionally deflated, let alone at Brady’s behest. The HGH allegation needs to be investigated, and either proven or disproven. The deflategate investigation should have ended when they neglected to get any kind of tangible evidence surrounding the air pressure.
    PED use is also, in my opinion, a much greater infraction to begin with.

  194. mathprof84 says: Jan 27, 2016 10:11 AM

    Manning is playing for a team that does not have that same bad reputation, so the league was not quite so quick to believe rumor and inuendo as they might have been if there had been a history of issues.
    ———–
    Manning is playing for the team that has the biggest scandal in NFL history attached to it, namely the salary cap violations that resulted in their 2 Super Bowls. Also the only team that has ACTUALLY recorded another team’s walkthrough, and has admitted as much.
    That said – he was not playing for them during the period in which he is alleged to have been cheating.
    He was playing for those bastions of integrity, and last years’ AFC participant trophy winners, the Colts.

  195. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Jan 27, 2016 10:11 AM

    skinsprinting says:
    Jan 26, 2016 9:30 PM
    plum54 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:10 PM
    Phinfan you just don’t get it! HGH is a banned substance, it’s a performance enhancing drug( PED). It’s illegal to take. End of story.

    —————————————————————–

    plum54 you don’t get it …HGH was NOT a banned substance when it was alleged that Manning. Look it up
    —————————–

    Banned in ’92 just not tested for until 2014.
    Rodney Harrison suspended in ’07 for it

  196. nhpats says: Jan 27, 2016 10:11 AM

    igornathanhiggers says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:28 PM
    The Patriots have lost the benefit of the doubt based on their history of cheating.

    If deflating footballs was their first and only offense to date, they would’ve gotten the benefit of the doubt too…but when you cheat to the point where Goodell has to burn the evidence, harbor and finance a serial murderer, bug visiting locker rooms, and deflate footballs to reduce fumbling, then destroy your phone? How many times have you ever destroyed your phone intentionally?

    Yea…Peyton gets the benefit of the doubt!

    ————–

    Again with the claim that the Pats deflated footballs to reduce fumbling. If what you claim is true, then why did the Pats fumble even less this season?

  197. silvernblacksabbath says: Jan 27, 2016 10:17 AM

    Another NFL publicity stunt to keep the NFL in the news after the season… Yawn…

  198. dman6015 says: Jan 27, 2016 10:23 AM

    Actually, elvoid, the trick question is “Yes or no. Have you stopped beating your wife?”

    Good to see someone else come under the great NFL microscope. Only thing is, if they find him guilty and suspend him for multiple games, it won’t matter. He’s retiring after the Super Bowl.

  199. netpound says: Jan 27, 2016 10:24 AM

    They’re going to have difficulty in proving anything against Peyton. The house that the HGH was “allegedly” delivered to was destroyed. Peyton and his wife got a new house and didn’t need the old house anymore (and apparently the house contained sensitive information), so they destroyed it. Nothing unusual about that.

  200. mmack66 says: Jan 27, 2016 10:27 AM

    sailbum7 says:
    Jan 27, 2016 9:34 AM

    The big difference between the two is that with the deflated balls issue they had evidence that clearly showed Brady was aware of, and participating in what was going on.
    —————————-

    Can you elaborate on what this evidence was? Even the NFL was forced to admit there was no direct evidence linking Brady to any scheme to deflate footballs.

    They didn’t have any indirect evidence either.

  201. magnoliasimms says: Jan 27, 2016 10:34 AM

    sailbum7 says:
    Jan 27, 2016 9:34 AM

    The big difference between the two is that with the deflated balls issue they had evidence that clearly showed Brady was aware of, and participating in what was going on. So far, the NFL has nothing other than some suspicions that Manning did anything wrong. Will further investigation turn up evidence against Manning, we will have to wait and see.
    __________________________________

    The NFL didn’t have any evidence, which is why Berman threw out the suspension in federal court. When asked if they had any definitive evidence of Brady doing anything wrong, the NFL had to answer that they didn’t have any evidence. Did you actually read the Wells report?

    They only had accusations and conjecture against Brady, which is the same thing they have on Manning.

    The difference between the two is that the league isn’t leaking out a false narrative about Manning for the two weeks leading up to the Super Bowl like they did about Brady.

  202. fishman518 says: Jan 27, 2016 10:47 AM

    igornathanhiggers says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:28 PM
    The Patriots have lost the benefit of the doubt based on their history of cheating.

    If deflating footballs was their first and only offense to date, they would’ve gotten the benefit of the doubt too…but when you cheat to the point where Goodell has to burn the evidence, harbor and finance a serial murderer, bug visiting locker rooms, and deflate footballs to reduce fumbling, then destroy your phone? How many times have you ever destroyed your phone intentionally?

    Yea…Peyton gets the benefit of the doubt!
    ______________________________

    1. Taping is legal and allowed per the rule book. They taped, in the wrong location. Fact. If taping is allowed, just not from the sidelines, how much can you consider this cheating?
    2. Hernandez – as soon as in investigation was launched, they cut the player, in his prime, immediately. That’s a lot more than Baltimore has done (Ray Rice, Suggs, Ray Lewis, ect)
    3. Bugging the lockerroom – no bugs have ever been found. How is that evidence of cheating?
    4. Deflating footballs – no evidence as testified in court by nfl investigators. 3 of 4 Colt balls were under the limit. Where is the investigation on them?
    5. Destroyed his phone – texts were already provided. NFL told Brady his phone was not needed and wouldn’t be a reason for supplemental punishment. Plus, players are NOT required to hand over personal phones per labor agreement.

    No, Peyton does not get the benefit. Learn to think for yourself and not to just believe whatever the NFL wants you to think. Goodell lied in court about Brady’s testimony. It’s in the transcript.

  203. fishman518 says: Jan 27, 2016 10:59 AM

    spillertime21 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 11:38 PM
    Pats fans are ridiculous. You got caught cheating twice and don’t have to give the SB trophies back, even tho the Pats should give them back.
    Any Pats fan that has anything bad to say about goodell apparently forgets the part of history where he threw the hoodie and Kraft a huge bone by destroying YEARS of tapes where the Pats illegally filmed opponents (belli-cheat admitted as much.) This saved that franchise w the most front running fans in all of sports even further humiliation.
    Thank your lucky stars for goodell. If he was more interested in the truth than protecting the shield, the Pats would have (at least) 3 less trophies in their case.
    Thoughts?
    ————————————–
    Weren’t the tapes shown during the press conference announcing the penalties? There are some who say there was more on the tapes, like other teams doing the same thing and they were destroyed to minimize the scandal.

  204. trina16 says: Jan 27, 2016 10:59 AM

    vikingforlife says:
    Jan 26, 2016 9:22 PM
    Peyton is believable because he has never been accused of cheating before. Fans who work in the healthcare industry know that many players go overseas for stem cell treatment (NO BIG DEAL). I really don’t understand this desire to crucify this man. Are Patriot fans that bitter? Your team and coaches are proven cheaters. Enough said. GET OVER IT. Leave everyone else alone!

    ——–

    Brady wasn’t either but that didn’t stop you, did it? Peyton is now playing for an organization that was penalized for cheating the Salary Cap TWICE. His team, owner and GM are proven cheaters.

    Guess it only matters if it’s the Patriots. Hypocrisy all around.

  205. solo681 says: Jan 27, 2016 11:03 AM

    They only had accusations and conjecture against Brady, which is the same thing they have on Manning.
    =========================

    WRONG

    The actual NFL ILLEGAL PED was sent to Peyton house with his wife as the Fall Guy.

    HUGE Difference

    It would be equivalent to the Patriots Footballs being Express Shipped to Gisele Brady, she lets the air out and then she ships them back to the sidelines before the game.

  206. trina16 says: Jan 27, 2016 11:06 AM

    94niners says:
    Jan 26, 2016 10:54 PM
    What if Manning’s wife was using it for fertility purposes?

    ———

    Then why get from the Guyer Institute Instead of her OB/GYN? So basically, she prefered to get it from an illegal source instead of having through legal channels? Does that make any sense at all?

  207. trina16 says: Jan 27, 2016 11:15 AM

    skinsprinting says:
    Jan 26, 2016 9:30 PM
    plum54 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 8:10 PM
    Phinfan you just don’t get it! HGH is a banned substance, it’s a performance enhancing drug( PED). It’s illegal to take. End of story.

    —————————————————————–

    plum54 you don’t get it …HGH was NOT a banned substance when it was alleged that Manning. Look it up

    ————‘
    You don’t get it. Rodney Harrison was suspended 4 games in 2007 because he had HGH delivered to his house. The NFL didn’t even bothered to test him or anything. They just suspended him because he had possesion of it. So if it wasn’t a banned susbstance in 2007, why was he suspended? That set up a precedent. Look it up.

  208. irishmanknowsall says: Jan 27, 2016 11:25 AM

    Manning is no dummy. Never involved outside agencies, trainers, alleged friends. No one saw him swallow or inject. Had the stuff shipped to his house, for his wife’s use. Ri-i-i-i-i-ight.
    Without proof of consumption/ejection, case will go nowhere.
    How many years ago, did Goodell lose control?

  209. steelpenguin6687 says: Jan 27, 2016 11:36 AM

    trina16 says:
    Jan 27, 2016 11:15 AM
    You don’t get it. Rodney Harrison was suspended 4 games in 2007 because he had HGH delivered to his house. The NFL didn’t even bothered to test him or anything. They just suspended him because he had possesion of it. So if it wasn’t a banned susbstance in 2007, why was he suspended? That set up a precedent. Look it up.

    ———————–
    I took your advice, and looked it up…in the article I read Harrison is quoted as saying….
    “I want to make it clear,” Harrison said, “that never once did I take steroids. I did admit to the commissioner that I took a banned substance.”
    So I would imagine that is why he was suspended, without testing….

  210. rjm0824 says: Jan 27, 2016 12:03 PM

    So a joke of a news organization made this initial report. Weeks later it goes out of business because it was a joke of a news organization. So let’s keep believing a phony report.

  211. packfant24 says: Jan 27, 2016 12:08 PM

    No way he did it, a fine, upstanding guy.

    Signed:

    Ryan Braun

  212. vikingforlife says: Jan 27, 2016 12:19 PM

    And by the way, women use HGH for “anti-aging” treatments. If you haven’t heard of that, you’ve been living under a rock for at least the past 5 years!

  213. bostonbadass says: Jan 27, 2016 12:34 PM

    ” HGH ”

    ***** YOU WORKED SO GOOD*****

  214. mmack66 says: Jan 27, 2016 12:58 PM

    rconatser1 says:
    Jan 27, 2016 8:53 AM

    Deflategate: video of Pats employee taking balls into toilet out of camera range. Fact
    Brady destroyed phone to keep from turning it over to the NFL. Fact.
    Texts between two Pats employees admitting to tampering with the balls. Fact

    Big difference here.
    —————————

    Only the first one is actually a fact. The second is definitely not a fact. The third one is also untrue, though they did talk about conditioning the footballs, which was part of their job duties.

  215. bodyman1 says: Jan 27, 2016 1:12 PM

    Whatever happened to Manning being so furious that he was filing suit against al jazeera?

  216. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 27, 2016 1:30 PM

    plum54 you don’t get it …HGH was NOT a banned substance when it was alleged that Manning. Look it up

    —-
    HGH has been on the NFL banned substances list since 1991.
    🙂

  217. hdahs143 says: Jan 27, 2016 1:40 PM

    Have to love all the rationalizing Pat’s fans put forth. How many of you have seen all the evidence? How about the spygate evidence that was promptly destroyed?

    That’s what I thought. You know what the NFL decided you were allowed to know. Nothing more.

    Where there is smoke, there is fire.

    You guys sure had a ball with Bullygate. Not so funny when the Goodell’s latest scandal is in your backyard. How does that crow taste?

  218. cb3313 says: Jan 27, 2016 3:55 PM

    So anyone screaming for an “independent investigation”… what would you like to happen? Ted Wells will knock on their door, and they’ll tell him to go home. Then Manning will say they weren’t mine… then the investigation is over. This allegedly happened in 2011 so I doubt anyone has their cell phones from 5 years ago. Not sure what else their supposed to do. Any serious suggestions or just a bunch of people who want to shout from rooftops?
    _______________________________________
    Because he is so innocent, you ask him to cooperate and open his phone and medical records. When he refuses, you suspend him for two games for failure to cooperate. Isn’t hat the president that has been set by the Emperor? You do it because Roger said so, or you get smeared.

  219. trajan2448 says: Jan 27, 2016 5:55 PM

    Investigator:
    I interviewed Mr. Manning and found him to be a warm, wonderful human being. There was no need to continue and we are 100 % satisfied.
    I think that about wraps it up.
    Now let’s grab a burger.

  220. magnoliasimms says: Jan 28, 2016 8:59 AM

    Have to love all the rationalizing Pat’s fans put forth. How many of you have seen all the evidence? How about the spygate evidence that was promptly destroyed?
    _________________________________

    You mean the tapes that were played for the media during the press conference with Goodell so they got to see exactly what Belichick had been filming?

  221. faaast1 says: Jan 30, 2016 5:40 PM

    The NFL is a BUSINE$$. Nothing more, nothing less. It’s all about the MONEY.

    Wake up & smell the viewership/storyboard. It has all been scripted.

    The iconic Peyton Manning’s “last rodeo” vs the
    younger, diametrically opposite Cam Newton’s 1st Super Bowl.

    Young vs old, white vs black, traditonal dropback quarterback vs running (& dropback quarterback). Old style, minimal celebrations, vs newer elaborate celebrations.

    Ironically Cam’s quarterbacking style (sans celebrations) is much more like Peyton’s father’s style, when Arch was at Ole Miss.

    It’s a Hollywood scripted Super Bowl matchup, to maximize TV viewership.

    All that’s left to see is
    a) Who was scripted to win?
    b) Will whoever was scripted to lose, play along?
    c)And if not, what is the NFL prepared to do, to get their desired outcome? Ie., how long will the lights be off, this time?

    In the immortal words of Brian Tuohy (emphasis mine), “Would YOU leave a multi-billion dollar business up to chance?”

  222. billfchew says: Feb 2, 2016 3:52 PM

    Nationwide-why do you spend all that money on that greedy idiot Peyton like he needs another penny?

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