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NFL declines invitation to join MLB, USADA investigation over Al Jazeera report

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Last month, Al Jazeera shocked the sports world with a report connecting multiple professional athletes to performance-enhancing drugs. For the NFL, the biggest name attached to the report belongs to Peyton Manning, whose wife allegedly received multiple shipments of HGH from the Guyer Institute in Indianapolis.

The NFL has said it will investigate the situation, Manning has said he welcomes it, but it remains unclear whether and to what extent the league will probe the matter as aggressively as it explored Tom Brady’s involvement in and/or knowledge of the alleged deflation of footballs by the Patriots. While it’s not unusual for an NFL investigation to occur discreetly, #DeflateGate was sufficient open and obvious to make Patriots fans expect a similar approach.

Those who wonder whether the NFL will simply brush the Manning situation under the rug will be intrigued by the latest development in the story, from T.J. Quinn of ESPN. Quinn reports that Major League Baseball and the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency are collaborating regarding the alleged involvement of baseball players. The NFL, per Quinn, declined.

“Our review of the matter continues,” NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told Quinn. “We do not comment on specifics of ongoing reviews.”

McCarthy is accurate, as it relates to the normal, run-of-the-mill case. But without a full-blown independent (or “independent”) investigation with a vow to make all findings public, the likely outcome is that the NFL will simply never say anything about the investigation, with no commentary on what was done, what was learned, and what if any conclusions were drawn regarding what the league decided was or wasn’t “more likely than not.”

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189 Responses to “NFL declines invitation to join MLB, USADA investigation over Al Jazeera report”
  1. PATRIOTSDYNASTYLIVES says: Jan 26, 2016 3:14 PM

    While I dont take much stock in Al-Jazeera if this were Brady , Goodell would write another 8.5 million dollar check……………

  2. daysend564 says: Jan 26, 2016 3:14 PM

    Not until after the Superbowl…

  3. kaepernickin says: Jan 26, 2016 3:17 PM

    God forbid they do anything to tarnish the golden boy Manning and his ever present forehead!

  4. mackcarrington says: Jan 26, 2016 3:18 PM

    The truth is that the NFL doesn’t want to know if Manning possibly took HGH. It’s probably not that difficult to find a paper trail of shipments to Manning’s address. And also we’re still waiting for Manning to proceed with his lawsuit.

  5. rolf1015 says: Jan 26, 2016 3:19 PM

    And meanwhile, we’re still waiting for the full set of PSI numbers with details from games this year (incl. where, when, and how the footballs were tested).

    It’s all about “the integrity of the game” right Roger – or should I say Fraud-ger?

  6. jjb0811 says: Jan 26, 2016 3:19 PM

    because in Goodell’s view, using HGH is the less than 1lb of pressure, so why make a case out of it?

  7. typicalnipple says: Jan 26, 2016 3:19 PM

    They need to some of that stuff to Big John Football.

  8. jalbs says: Jan 26, 2016 3:20 PM

    It’s not Tom Brady or Patriots related? Nothing to see here. How about that shiny 50th Super Bowl logo!

    Sincerely,

    Roger Goodell

  9. drgfri says: Jan 26, 2016 3:21 PM

    So am I supposed to believe that a man with all the resources in the world has HGH shipped to his home under his wife’s name while he is recovering from an injury and he did not have any connection to it? I guess we will never know. This stinks and the NFL clearly plays favorites. All the masses will just dismiss is because it was AJ and because ‘Merica!

    Boooo Goodell. You suck at your job!

  10. skawh says: Jan 26, 2016 3:22 PM

    Prove it! Accusations aren’t proof!

  11. titletownie72 says: Jan 26, 2016 3:23 PM

    Total joke. Complete double standard when it comes to the golden family of the NFL. The NFL is a laughing stock, especially when goons like Goodell get up to a podium and talk about “the integrity of the game.” The NFL is becoming the WWE more and more with each passing day.

  12. mathprof84 says: Jan 26, 2016 3:24 PM

    Shocker.
    #Integrity

  13. Patskrieg says: Jan 26, 2016 3:24 PM

    Easy answer to why the NFL won’t sink resources into a lengthy investigation: Peyton Manning is a class act and will surely just “admit he did it for the good of the league.”

  14. fluiddarkness says: Jan 26, 2016 3:25 PM

    Is this the Patriot homers’ Super Bowl 50? It’s all they seem to have left to root for now that Revenge Tour has been cancelled.

  15. underdog518 says: Jan 26, 2016 3:25 PM

    Of course they decline. Because integrity.

  16. nhpats says: Jan 26, 2016 3:27 PM

    “More likely than not” that Manning was using Ashley’s HGH! Heck, how does a woman in her 30s get an HGH prescription anyway?

  17. margoadams says: Jan 26, 2016 3:27 PM

    Peyton Manning needs to turn over his cell phone.

  18. infectorman says: Jan 26, 2016 3:28 PM

    WOW, Anyone at all surprised?

    NFL investigation team mobilizes to unprecedented levels when there’s a tenth of an ounce of air potentially missing out of a ball, but when Manning has one substance that is well known to prolong NFL players careers for years, SHIPPED TO HIS HOUSE. we hear…..crickets.

    Sorry Carolina, there is no way The Panthers will win the SB.
    NFL has it’s story all predetermined and a Manning* wears the crown again.

    This is the exact same thing as Ray Lewis going out “on top”: they did everything they can to clean off the shadow of an accomplice to murder being their poster boy.
    SMH…

  19. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 26, 2016 3:28 PM

    Corrupt Goodell and his cronies in action.

    They buried Ray Lewis’ ped use before his last SB, now they’re doing it foe Manning.

    Imagine if Giselle had received repeated shipments of HGH the huge national outroar Goodell would have created ?

    Goidell’s National Integrity League

    Goodell is vile

    Goodell and his cronies must go

  20. paulrevereshorse1775 says: Jan 26, 2016 3:29 PM

    The NFL will probably just have Mike Kensil “weigh” Peyton’s head and say it’s good.

  21. ctbarryjr says: Jan 26, 2016 3:34 PM

    Anyone seen manning throw a ball lately? There is your answer. And if he was taking, he should sue the company, as it would be clear, they didnt work. I am a texans fan and hate manning and brady. But i can see the difference in a cheat and someone who plays by the rules.

  22. j0esixpack says: Jan 26, 2016 3:35 PM

    Criminally ironic

    As hundreds of scientists have confirmed, the so-called “deflation” of Patriots (and Colts) football is EXACTLY what one would expect from the cold

    That didn’t stop Goodell from launching a major investigation fueled by his own purposeful release of false information leading up to the Super Bowl

    Goodell continues to insist the Laws of Physics don’t apply to the NFL but compares a minor equipment violation to PED use.

    Well Peyton and his wife ADMIT that she received HGH – an ACTUAL PED – while pregnant with twins and Roger does NOTHING to investigate further.

    Brady insisted on testifying under oath – Manning and Goodell refuse to do the same thing. It’s obvious why.

  23. infectorman says: Jan 26, 2016 3:36 PM

    Peyton Manning*

    Vacate the AFC Championship; vacate everything he’s accomplished since his return from the Frankenstein Mansion and his 97 surgeries.

    He is a PED user Fraud. The same as Von Miller

    Broncos***

  24. scw1993 says: Jan 26, 2016 3:36 PM

    “While it’s not unusual for an NFL investigation to occur discreetly, #DeflateGate was sufficient open and obvious to make Patriots fans expect a similar approach.”

    This is a gross understatement of what happens when you have 31 jealous owners who want to get the G.O.A.T. off the field. Goodell is still chasing him, and won’t stop until he’s personally laughed out of court. If 31 other qb’s wives had received multiple deliveries of HGH at their home(s), there would be manic investigations, accusations, and finger-pointing.

    The league is very public, but not when it wants to protect its fair-haired boy. I don’t believe any investigation is going on at all, discreet or otherwise.

  25. jag1959 says: Jan 26, 2016 3:38 PM

    “We do not comment on specifics of ongoing reviews.”

    No, they merely ‘leak’ whatever suits their purpose along with whatever tarnishes their target while working their way backwards from a desired conclusion. The league already has their ‘finding’ in this matter. That doesn’t mean we know Manning is guilty anymore than we know he is innocent. The fact is we don’t KNOW anything, the difference between us and the league though is most of us would like to.

  26. wte1 says: Jan 26, 2016 3:38 PM

    Surely the NFL will make available a letter from Dave Gardi to Peyton with intentional malicious and false information such as one of the packages sent to Peyton’s wife had 10.1 lbs of HGH.

  27. 4rings4brady says: Jan 26, 2016 3:40 PM

    2011 neck surgery … hgh arrives at home under another name … no hgh testing … does really well in 2012 & 2013 … 2014 hgh testing arrives … shipments to 3rd party stop … stats decline…

    yeah, nothing to see here folks.

  28. captainwhodat says: Jan 26, 2016 3:45 PM

    should be interesting, especially if MLB and USDA finds that its athletes got HGH shipments…will Roger and Peyton look bad then, but then, the owners won’t care…protect the shield, you know…

  29. jag1959 says: Jan 26, 2016 3:46 PM

    skawh says:
    Jan 26, 2016 3:22 PM
    Prove it! Accusations aren’t proof!
    ___________________________

    They were enough for the 12’s when it came to the team that beat them in the SB. The difference here for them is that because Carolina ended their season this year they are all now Peyton fans.

  30. 8oneanddones says: Jan 26, 2016 3:50 PM

    The NFL doesn’t want to catch any player using HGH. Their testing protocol is a joke. A player would test clean for HGH in a matter of hours.

    DJ Williams wouldn’t even have to use that ‘non-human’ urine to get around the NFL’s HGH test.

  31. bullcharger says: Jan 26, 2016 3:50 PM

    It doesn’t matter if the NFL joins. THE USADA will publish information they find out about NFL players. Travis Tygart would like nothing more than to blow the lid of an NFL doping scandal I am sure.

  32. fishyinalittledishy says: Jan 26, 2016 3:53 PM

    Hilarious posts concerning Peytons forehead. You know who you are.

  33. swineflooo says: Jan 26, 2016 3:54 PM

    He had no problem injecting stem cells into his neck, so why would he stop before trying hgh. Shipments to his house during the time he was trying to come back from neck surgeries, who ever thinks the shipments were for his wife are complete idiots

  34. paulrevereshorse1775 says: Jan 26, 2016 3:54 PM

    jag1959 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 3:46 PM

    They were enough for the 12’s when it came to the team that beat them in the SB. The difference here for them is that because Carolina ended their season this year they are all now Peyton fans.

    ——–

    I’m glad to know that it wasn’t just my imagination

  35. bullcharger says: Jan 26, 2016 3:58 PM

    mackcarrington says:
    Jan 26, 2016 3:18 PM

    The truth is that the NFL doesn’t want to know if Manning possibly took HGH. It’s probably not that difficult to find a paper trail of shipments to Manning’s address. And also we’re still waiting for Manning to proceed with his lawsuit.

    ———-

    They are going to find out whether they like it or not. The USADA doesn’t bargain or hide things based on what we have seen from them in their dealings with baseball and cycling. If there is anything to it all the athletes names will be published and it could blow open the NFL in a similar way to what happened in baseball.

    Personally, I find it hard to believe that many NFL player has never tried PEDs. They work and the testing in the NFL is a joke. I don’t think it’s a big deal if Peyton did it and at the moment, I am inclined to believe he did not, because what reason would I have to doubt him.

    It doesn’t change my view of him, just like it doesn’t change my view of Rodney Harrison or Antonio Gates.

    I just think it’s a big deal if the USADA exposes a huge scandal.

  36. shaggytoodle says: Jan 26, 2016 3:59 PM

    What if a guy was just spouting off to try to make his practice look “state of the art” or look good to a potential client?

    Why wouldn’t he want his company to appear to be the next Balco or Biogensis company?

    It’s not like those guys are oozing with credibility.

  37. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:01 PM

    skawh says:
    Jan 26, 2016 3:22 PM

    Prove it! Accusations aren’t proof!
    ———————-

    They are to Goodellbot.

  38. patsruleyou says: Jan 26, 2016 4:01 PM

    *integrity

  39. gwhite13 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:03 PM

    Great job Mike F.

    Keep an eye on this.

    Got to think Al Jazzera has another shoe to drop…or the payoff was HUGE…

  40. briguy5 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:04 PM

    $5 million investigation for Brady.
    Blind eye for Manning.

  41. zigthepatsfan says: Jan 26, 2016 4:04 PM

    Funny but I predicted this- MLB would look in to this while the NFL won’t.

    But even for the NFL guys (wasnt only Peyton remember) this isn’t good. There’s going be some digging around the whole story

  42. phuckauffewe says: Jan 26, 2016 4:05 PM

    Who, other than me, is Shocked, Shocked I tell you Shocked that Goodell not only isn’t really looking into this but with a chance for a truly independent investigation he passes.

    It’s all about the integrity of the shield. Right Rog?

  43. whispersd says: Jan 26, 2016 4:07 PM

    If only Ryan Grigson wrote for Al Jazeera, the NFL would be giving this matter the attention it deserves.

    The corruption at the high levels of the NFL is nauseating. It would be more respectable if Vince McMahon took over.

  44. patsfan1820 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:11 PM

    I guess accusations aren’t proof unless you are a Patriots or Saints fan. I’m sorry, but when just a year earlier you conduct an open investigation and leak out false information to make the so called “crime” out to be like the sky was falling then yes people are going to expect an open and fair investigation into another incident. NFL never had integrity they covered up CTE for decades, covered up illegal gambling for years while condemning Draftkings and Fanduel for being public about it, have a ridiculous drug policy in which pot is illegal but spice is not, every team in the NFL breaking the rules yet they only condemn some of it, etc. This is ridiculous.

  45. whispersd says: Jan 26, 2016 4:11 PM

    The league is very public, but not when it wants to protect its fair-haired boy. I don’t believe any investigation is going on at all, discreet or otherwise.

    I think we remember when the NFL “investigated” the allegation that the Colts were piping in crowd noise. That investigation was requested first thing Monday morning and the NFL had it wrapped up by noon.

    That really happened!

  46. carnegiemellonisafruitstand says: Jan 26, 2016 4:12 PM

    Meanwhile, I hear Ashley Manning is jacked and pumped.

  47. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 4:17 PM

    If Roger Goodell hasn’t been fired by now then maybe deliberately burying PED doping in his sport might do the trick.

    #GoodellMustGo

  48. seriously423 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:17 PM

    This will be the end of Roger the Liar…

    “The partnership offers obvious benefits for both MLB and USADA. MLB gets USADA’s institutional knowledge of the doping world, along with the quasi-governmental agency’s extensive contacts with law enforcement. USADA gets to participate in an investigation that involves the nation’s most powerful sports leagues, neither of which is under its jurisdiction.

    Both bodies will be watching to see how aggressively the NFL pursues its investigation, however. While MLB gained a reputation as a zealous pursuer of PED users through the Biogenesis saga, the NFL has been widely criticized in anti-doping circles as not doing enough to fight the issue.”

  49. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 4:20 PM

    Not just PEDton and his HGH… how about the 2013 Seahags?

  50. stealthjunk says: Jan 26, 2016 4:20 PM

    Hi Pats fans! We’ve missed you guys. Sorry for your loss.

    I hate to break it to you, but whatever happens in this HGH investigation is not going to change the fact that the Pats cheated. And just to reiterate — the federal judge only found that Brady couldn’t be suspended for cheating under the terms of the CBA — not that Brady never cheated. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night! xoxo

  51. unoduotres says: Jan 26, 2016 4:21 PM

    New Nationwide jingle;

    Honey, where did you put the HGH ?

  52. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 4:23 PM

    How nice of the NFL to try and prevent one of the games biggest stars and a team from being distracted by outside allegations and rumors before the Super Bowl. Glad this league would never let that happen.
    :)

  53. metalup666 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:24 PM

    When the report from the “experts” came out that cold does have an impact on the inflation of footballs, what Pats fans seem to not read is it takes more than a few minutes for this to happen. Ever noticed how your car tires slowly over the winter time seem to lose air? Same principle. Now, if the cold did have an effect on the ball, why were all but one of the Pats footballs low, but none of the Colts footballs were?

  54. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 4:27 PM

    The appeals court will uphold Judge Berman’s ruling in full of course.

    Simply because it’s a fact that Roger Goodell is wrong about everything. We all know that.

  55. zigthepatsfan says: Jan 26, 2016 4:35 PM

    “USADA gets to participate in an investigation that involves the nation’s most powerful sports leagues, neither of which is under its jurisdiction.”

    Watch the NFL file some legal stuff preventing anything damaging to the shield from coming out from this.

  56. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 4:36 PM

    When this report is confirmed by the USADA as 100% accurate – and notice I said “when” not “if” – will Goodell’s firing or resignation in disgrace get televised?

    I hope it’s on pay per view! I would buy it.
    :)

  57. flash1287 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:36 PM

    metalup666 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 4:24 PM
    When the report from the “experts” came out that cold does have an impact on the inflation of footballs, what Pats fans seem to not read is it takes more than a few minutes for this to happen. Ever noticed how your car tires slowly over the winter time seem to lose air? Same principle. Now, if the cold did have an effect on the ball, why were all but one of the Pats footballs low, but none of the Colts footballs were?

    That’s not what it said. And pretty much every 7th grade science teacher in the country disagreed with you. And a half of a football game is longer than a “few minutes”

  58. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Jan 26, 2016 4:40 PM

    fluiddarkness says:
    Jan 26, 2016 3:25 PM
    Is this the Patriot homers’ Super Bowl 50? It’s all they seem to have left to root for now that Revenge Tour has been cancelled.
    ————————

    I can’t speak for the ‘homers’ but I am a Pats fan and a season ticket holder since ’82. What is annoying to the Pats fans I speak with every day is the hypocrisy of the league’s response to the HGH allegations or the colts injury report bs versus the hysteria that drove the bag jobs that were framegate or bullygate.

  59. greenbaychicksarefat says: Jan 26, 2016 4:40 PM

    “Peyton adamantly denies taking HGH, I for one believe him”

    Lance Armstrong

  60. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:42 PM

    metalup666 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 4:24 PM

    When the report from the “experts” came out that cold does have an impact on the inflation of footballs, what Pats fans seem to not read is it takes more than a few minutes for this to happen. Ever noticed how your car tires slowly over the winter time seem to lose air? Same principle. Now, if the cold did have an effect on the ball, why were all but one of the Pats footballs low, but none of the Colts footballs were?
    —————————–

    More than a few minutes? Do you mean like an entire half of football? You actually think it takes months?

    None of the Colts footballs were low? 3 of the 4 Colts footballs they tested were below 12.5PSI.

    It’s all there in the Pash Report.

  61. paulrevereshorse1775 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:45 PM

    stealthjunk says:
    Jan 26, 2016 4:20 PM

    Hi Pats fans! We’ve missed you guys. Sorry for your loss.

    I hate to break it to you, but whatever happens in this HGH investigation is not going to change the fact that the Pats cheated. And just to reiterate — the federal judge only found that Brady couldn’t be suspended for cheating under the terms of the CBA — not that Brady never cheated. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night!

    ———

    we’ve been here…..despite you trying to make it look like we haven’t been.

    It was not the Berman’s place to rule on Brady’s innocence or guilt. In case you don’t know, that is not what an appeals court decides. Read up, you’ll learn something.

    However, he also didn’t have to. The NFL’s lawyer said they did not have any direct proof Brady was involved in any deflation scheme. Furthermore, by Berman saying Goodell couldn’t use his own form of “industrial justice”, he basically said that the NFL can’t skew the process in order to achieve their desired result.

  62. plum54 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:46 PM

    To the poster claiming the Colts balls were not underinflated: you are incorrect! 3/4 were underinflated too. They only tested 4 footballs as the refs ran out of time.
    Physics applied to all the footballs!

  63. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 4:47 PM

    Again, please explain the deflator.

  64. skunkb3ar says: Jan 26, 2016 4:47 PM

    metalup666 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 4:24 PM
    When the report from the “experts” came out that cold does have an impact on the inflation of footballs, what Pats fans seem to not read is it takes more than a few minutes for this to happen. Ever noticed how your car tires slowly over the winter time seem to lose air? Same principle. Now, if the cold did have an effect on the ball, why were all but one of the Pats footballs low, but none of the Colts footballs were?
    ——————————————————————–

    They stopped testing the Colts’ balls after only four. Wonder why that could be? I mean there is plenty else wrong with your comment, but let’s just start with that.

  65. factman66 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:48 PM

    Brady will forever be associated with cheating. Whatever happens with this lawsuit won’t change that.

  66. mathprof84 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:48 PM

    I suspect there is a tacit agreement that the NFL will not pursue this until after the season ends, and when Peyton retires it will be dropped, as it will be moot.

  67. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:49 PM

    The simple fact is that the NFL and its fans really don’t care that much about PED use among the players.

    It’s not like MLB where everyone gets apoplectic at the mere hint of PED use by a player.

  68. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 4:49 PM

    According to Al Jazeera there IS a direct link between PEDton’s “friend” Charlie Sly and BALCO athletes.

    Get your popcorn out folks. This is gonna be good.
    :)

  69. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 4:52 PM

    Lance Armstrong
    Barry Bonds
    Roger Clemens
    Rafael Palmeiro
    Marion Jones
    And now Peyton Manning

    #Lies
    #disgrace
    #WhatAShame

  70. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 4:53 PM

    Again, al jazeera-America was going out of business. They used this made up story for money and try to show they have a purpose, they don’t. This story has been proven wrong multiple times.

  71. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:54 PM

    mathprof84 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 4:48 PM

    I suspect there is a tacit agreement that the NFL will not pursue this until after the season ends, and when Peyton retires it will be dropped, as it will be moot.
    ———————————–

    Weren’t half the Packers team named as well?

  72. factman66 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:57 PM

    Nobody believes that the Patriots footballs naturally deflated because they think it’s impossible for a ball to deflate during cold weather. They don’t believe it because a guy nicknamed “The Deflator” took and unauthorized trip to the bathroom with with footballs in a case of alleged ball tampering. Then you factor in the texts, the destroyed cell phone, the lack of cooperation during the inv, Brady saying on record he likes his footballs below regulation, the league-wide rumors that NE deflates their footballs…and its impossible for a reasonably intelligent human being to think the balls in question deflated naturally.
    It’s that simple.

  73. scottbrowning2 says: Jan 26, 2016 4:58 PM

    Realistically speaking the NFL and Roger Goodell have to want a do-over on deflategate. They screwed that up on every single front and took a long march into the wilderness stepping on their “members” with every stride. While it might be theoretically “fair” for them to repeat their bumbling with the Manning case I can understand why they would be reluctant to embarrass themselves any further. The wisest course for the NFL is to drop their federal case before they get humiliated in court again, apologize publicly profusely to Brady, return the Patriots stolen draft picks, and then do whatever they are going to do with Manning with prudence and discretion.

  74. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 5:00 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 4:57 PM

    Nobody believes that the Patriots footballs naturally deflated because they think it’s impossible for a ball to deflate during cold weather. They don’t believe it because a guy nicknamed “The Deflator” took and unauthorized trip to the bathroom with with footballs in a case of alleged ball tampering. Then you factor in the texts, the destroyed cell phone, the lack of cooperation during the inv, Brady saying on record he likes his footballs below regulation, the league-wide rumors that NE deflates their footballs…and its impossible for a reasonably intelligent human being to think the balls in question deflated naturally.
    It’s that simple.

    Yup

  75. funpatsmon777 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:00 PM

    Look ,for the dummies that are commenting on how manning is throwing now !!he stopped taking it ..but how bout 2013..broke leage records in a couple categories !! He was juice probably got caught!!swept under rug bye the nfl ,manning was average last year .game manager at best this year !!no investigation of course not the nfl already knows !!that’s why there will be know investigation !!peace

  76. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 5:01 PM

    Tee hee:) Poor, poor Patriot Hater:) So desperate to change the subject to other teams and players and made-up cheating when we’re talking about this story which is very real cheating.

    #GetWithTheProgram
    #StayOnTopicPlease
    #GetBackInLineSon

  77. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 5:02 PM

    Also, why was Kraft so willing to give up a million and draft picks, if they don’t cheat. He paid the price because we all know they cheat. But in his mind he will pay the price to be able to cheat.

  78. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 5:02 PM

    scottbrowning2 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 4:58 PM

    Realistically speaking the NFL and Roger Goodell have to want a do-over on deflategate. They screwed that up on every single front and took a long march into the wilderness stepping on their “members” with every stride. While it might be theoretically “fair” for them to repeat their bumbling with the Manning case I can understand why they would be reluctant to embarrass themselves any further. The wisest course for the NFL is to drop their federal case before they get humiliated in court again, apologize publicly profusely to Brady, return the Patriots stolen draft picks, and then do whatever they are going to do with Manning with prudence and discretion.


    That would require real leadership and a real commissioner. Neither of which are present at 345 Park Avenue at the moment.

  79. factman66 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:05 PM

    Seeing as how cheating and the Patriots are synonymous, and the author tagged this article as related to the New England Patriots, I’d say I’m right on topic.

  80. tajuara says: Jan 26, 2016 5:05 PM

    My two cents: deflating balls in an actual game to gain a competitive advantage have more weight that a guy using HGH when he was not even an active player. Now, I am not saying that the Pats deflated the balls on purpose or that Manning used HGH, but obviously deflated balls deserve more consideration that the Manning alleged HGH use. Besides, the NFL bagn its inestigation after the SB. Also, I find kind of surprising that no owner has come out to ask for an investigation, which is strange. When the deflated balls came to light, a couple owners asked for a deep investigation, now all of them are silent, maybe they know something we don’t?

  81. plum54 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:05 PM

    It’s just amazing some posters still believe that there was tampering of footballs. Guess they have not read either the NY Times or PFT that both have acknowledged this past week the farce that framegate was.
    Incredible how ignorant some posters are. Just hope they aren’t reproducing.

  82. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 5:08 PM

    comment

    TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:01 PM

    Tee hee:) Poor, poor Patriot Hater:) So desperate to change the subject to other teams and players and made-up cheating when we’re talking about this story which is very real cheating.

    #GetWithTheProgram
    #StayOnTopicPlease
    #GetBackInLineSon

    Ok then, explain the deflator. Explain spygate. Explain why Kraft accepts the punishments, so he can sweep all this cheating under the rug as soon as possible. Explain why the judge never declared Brady innocent, just that the punishment didnt fit the crime. Call me a hater all you want, because I do hate cheaters. When all you have to say is “haters” then you know the new England patriots are cheaters.

  83. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 5:10 PM

    Tee hee:) Patriot Hater got owned again.

    #TheyMakeItSoEasy
    #SlappingPatriotHaterAroundIsSoMuchFun
    #AndItsGoodForYouToo

  84. lapantherfan86 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:10 PM

    This is garbage. The NFL picks and chooses what leads it follows based on who it affects.

  85. ebdug says: Jan 26, 2016 5:11 PM

    It doesn’t pay Goodell to go after a man who is retiring. If he had a shot at suspending him for the Super Bowl, he’d do it.

  86. bushwoodcc says: Jan 26, 2016 5:12 PM

    ctbarryjr says:
    Jan 26, 2016 3:34 PM
    Anyone seen manning throw a ball lately? There is your answer. And if he was taking, he should sue the company, as it would be clear, they didnt work. I am a texans fan and hate manning and brady. But i can see the difference in a cheat and someone who plays by the rules.
    _______________________________________

    You do realize that the alleged shipments to his wife were shipped in 2011, don’t you. Right after he had multiple neck surgeries and was trying to find a team to sign him as the Colts were busy sucking for Luck. This would tend to have little impact on his play in 2015-2016.

  87. zigthepatsfan says: Jan 26, 2016 5:12 PM

    Why so much Brady/Patriots talk in here? This has nothing to do with them.

    side note: “factman” must be like a misnomer, like how you call a big huge guy “Tiny” right?

  88. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:13 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 4:57 PM

    Nobody believes that the Patriots footballs naturally deflated because they think it’s impossible for a ball to deflate during cold weather. They don’t believe it because a guy nicknamed “The Deflator” took and unauthorized trip to the bathroom with with footballs in a case of alleged ball tampering. Then you factor in the texts, the destroyed cell phone, the lack of cooperation during the inv, Brady saying on record he likes his footballs below regulation, the league-wide rumors that NE deflates their footballs…and its impossible for a reasonably intelligent human being to think the balls in question deflated naturally.
    It’s that simple.
    ————————

    What’s simple is that objects filled with air do have a lower pressure due to cold temperatures.

    Ted Wells stated in the Pash Report that Brady cooperated fully with the investigation.

    It is entirely untrue that Brady made any claim that he likes the footballs below regulation. But then, your whole shtick is presenting lies and falsehoods.

  89. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 5:14 PM

    My two cents: deflating balls in an actual game to gain a competitive advantage have more weight that a guy using HGH when he was not even an active player.


    It doesn’t matter that he wasn’t active. It’s illegal and it is cheating and an illegal advantage over a player that is healing without HGH. If you cheat to get back on the field quicker then you cheated the game regardless of whether it helped your performance or not.

    And I do agree that deflating balls is cheating. Except in this case there is no objective and tangible evidence to show it occurred and it is not the MO of this team to do such a thing anyway. If there was, all of us would be looking at things very differently.

  90. bushwoodcc says: Jan 26, 2016 5:15 PM

    jpurcy says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:02 PM
    Also, why was Kraft so willing to give up a million and draft picks, if they don’t cheat. He paid the price because we all know they cheat. But in his mind he will pay the price to be able to cheat.
    _____________________________________

    Actually the ownership agreement he (and every other owner) have to sign does not permit him to challenge the penalty. Owners don’t have the same CBA rights that players do when it comes to appeals.

  91. gysot says: Jan 26, 2016 5:15 PM

    Watched the embarrassing flimsy AJ mockumentary. Lets just say there will not be a Broncos employee named “the injector” nor will Peyton be destroying any cell phones. But feel free to post about this on every thread pats fan, you know since you have so much free time now.

  92. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 5:15 PM

    Ok then, explain the deflator. Explain spygate. Explain why Kraft accepts the punishments, so he can sweep all this cheating under the rug as soon as possible. Explain why the judge never declared Brady innocent, just that the punishment didnt fit the crime. Call me a hater all you want, because I do hate cheaters. When all you have to say is “haters” then you know the new England patriots are cheaters.


    Tee hee:) Patriot Hater is getting more and more inane and desperate every day and it’s so funny!
    :)

  93. jstew0103 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:15 PM

    Peyton Manning was not named in the Al Jazeera documentary. It is more probable than not that he was generally aware that there was growth hormones being sent to his house(s). I’m more curious about the players that WERE named in the documentary that we have heard nothing about. It’s easy to associate this story with Peyton but waht about Mike Neal, Clay Matthews and Julius Peppers? ya know…the biggest part of the Packers’ front seven?

  94. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:20 PM

    jpurcy says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:08 PM

    Ok then, explain the deflator. Explain spygate. Explain why Kraft accepts the punishments, so he can sweep all this cheating under the rug as soon as possible. Explain why the judge never declared Brady innocent, just that the punishment didnt fit the crime.
    ———————————

    Did you just wake up from a coma? All of these things have been explained numerous times over the last year or so.

    I’ll give you one though. It wasn’t the job of Judge Berman to declare anyone innocent or guilty.

  95. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 5:20 PM

    Watched the embarrassing flimsy AJ mockumentary. Lets just say there will not be a Broncos employee named “the injector” nor will Peyton be destroying any cell phones. But feel free to post about this on every thread pats fan, you since you have so much free time now.

    —–

    And yet… the Federal US Anti Doping Agency saw more than enough there to get involved in an investigation.

    Go figure.:)

    #YourLabelsDontChangeTheFacts
    #SoundsLikeUrWhistlingPastTheGraveyard

  96. jasoncnz says: Jan 26, 2016 5:20 PM

    Do any of you Pats fans ever stop to wonder WHY the league has it out for you? It’s because they know just how much you cheated. Unlike us fans, the league actually got to see all those tapes that Belichick had. They saw the extent that the Pats went to to tape signals and practices and so on. The league doesn’t like the Pats b/c they saw first hand the degrees to which the Pats were willing to stoop to in order to gain an advantage.

    And don’t say it’s jealousy. They didn’t go after the Stealers when they were winning multiple SBs. They didn’t go after the 49ers when they were winning multiple SBs. They didn’t go after the Cowboys when they were winning multiple SBs. They only went after NE! Why is that I wonder? Because they know way better than the fans just how much the Pats were cheating

  97. bushwoodcc says: Jan 26, 2016 5:20 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 4:57 PM

    Nobody believes that the Patriots footballs naturally deflated because they think it’s impossible for a ball to deflate during cold weather. They don’t believe it because a guy nicknamed “The Deflator” took and unauthorized trip to the bathroom with with footballs in a case of alleged ball tampering. Then you factor in the texts, the destroyed cell phone, the lack of cooperation during the inv, Brady saying on record he likes his footballs below regulation, the league-wide rumors that NE deflates their footballs…and its impossible for a reasonably intelligent human being to think the balls in question deflated naturally.
    It’s that simple.
    _____________________________________

    I guess the science staff at places like Carnegie Mellon, Princeton and other prestigious institutions aren’t intelligent then. Because they are all pretty clear in their conclusions that the deflation was within the expected range.

    Now as far as your other garbage, Wells said Brady cooperated fully, said they had everything they needed from his phone via the records, and Brady never said he liked the footballs below regulation. So you just make stuff up. It is that simple.

  98. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 5:21 PM

    t’s easy to associate this story with Peyton but waht about Mike Neal, Clay Matthews and Julius Peppers? ya know…the biggest part of the Packers’ front seven?


    Yep.

    All the more reason why Roger Goodell needs to resign since all of this this is occurring under his watch.

  99. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 5:22 PM

    So, in that spirit, I don’t want to continue the rhetoric that’s gone on for the last four months. I’m going to accept, reluctantly, what he has given to us, and not continue this dialogue and rhetoric, and we won’t appeal.

    Now, I know that a lot of Patriots fans are going to be disappointed in that decision, but I hope they trust my judgment and know that I really feel at this point in time that taking this off the agenda, this is the best thing for the New England Patriots, our fans, and the NFL, and I hope you all can respect that.

    Yeah, owners can appeal.

  100. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:24 PM

    tajuara says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:05 PM

    My two cents: deflating balls in an actual game to gain a competitive advantage have more weight that a guy using HGH when he was not even an active player.
    ——————————

    Hold on. You have some change coming back to you.

  101. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:28 PM

    How does anyone know that letting the air out of footballs gives anyone a competitive edge?

    Aaron Rodgers likes extra air in footballs, and he is usually considered one of the top quarterbacks these days.

  102. wlubake says: Jan 26, 2016 5:29 PM

    This article suggests that the NFL has Peyton’s back, but has it out for Tom. My question is – why? What is the motive? Why discredit one of the greatest QBs ever who has otherwise been nothing but a great ambassador for the game (Brady) and defend Manning?

    Without motive, you aren’t getting me to buy your conspiracy theories.

  103. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 5:29 PM

    Patriots fans, first of all that’s all you are. It is not “your” team. And most importantly, the owner of the team has accepted multiple penalties for cheating. And yes, owners do have a right to appeal.

  104. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:32 PM

    jpurcy says:
    Jan 26, 2016 4:53 PM

    Again, al jazeera-America was going out of business. They used this made up story for money and try to show they have a purpose, they don’t. This story has been proven wrong multiple times.
    ——————————

    The division of Al Jazeera that did the HGH story is not going out of business.

    You’re about as insightful as “fact”man66.

  105. nhpats says: Jan 26, 2016 5:36 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 4:48 PM
    Brady will forever be associated with cheating. Whatever happens with this lawsuit won’t change that.

    ————-

    He will also forever be associated with laying 350 yards on the Legion of Buffoons in the SB including two 4th quarter TDs to win take the lead. In fact, I re-watched the game recently…..it was masterful. I particularly like the part where Malcom Butler made Richard Sherman cry.

  106. zigthepatsfan says: Jan 26, 2016 5:37 PM

    tajuara says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:05 PM

    My two cents: deflating balls in an actual game to gain a competitive advantage have more weight that a guy using HGH when he was not even an active player.

    OK but what if HGH guy was let go by his long time team-it was HIS team really- because nobody knew if he’d ever be able again?

    Then HGH gets sent to his wife and not only does he play,he sets a bunch of records. Now he’s playing in the SB but he actually fell off, coincidentally the year they finally start testing for HGH

    How many “records” has he set the last few years? Years he quite possibly cheated to acquire. And you think maybe .3 PSI is a bigger deal?

    Huh

  107. torebear says: Jan 26, 2016 5:39 PM

    So, will Peyton be the fall guy for the Packers Franchise or will the Packers Franchise take the fall for Peyton?

    Judging by the focus on Peyton and not the Packers in the Media, it looks like Peyton Manning will take the heat after the Superbowl while the peds continue to flow up in Wisconsin.

  108. rogergoodellisatwat says: Jan 26, 2016 5:39 PM

    Roger Goodell is busy protecting the shield. PEDs are only important when certain teams and players use them. We can see this in the case of Von Miller. Independent investigations are reserved for special circumstances, not for someone trying to cheat a drug test by paying off the urine collector. Clearly, the urine collector was at fault for accepting the bribe, and he was duly fired.

    It stands to reason that simply having prohibited substances mailed to your home would also not warrant an investigation–provided you don’t play for one of the teams with whom the commissioner has a vendetta.

  109. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:39 PM

    “Hi Pats fans! We’ve missed you guys. Sorry for your loss.”

    Another science denier.

    I wonder if when you get on a plane you’re praying the engine elves have enough magic pixie dust to get you to where you’re going without crashing. After all physics doesn’t exist, right ?

    SMH

  110. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:41 PM

    “his article suggests that the NFL has Peyton’s back, but has it out for Tom. My question is – why? What is the motive? Why discredit one of the greatest QBs ever who has otherwise been nothing but a great ambassador for the game (Brady) and defend Manning?”

    Goodell and all his cronies are former NY Jets employees. They loathe the Pats, they loathe Brady, they loathe New England.

    It may not make sense to smear Brady but human beings often do irrational things out of hatred.

    Exhibit A for that are the science deniers who post here.

  111. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:44 PM

    “So you just make stuff up. It is that simple.”

    That’s why I call him liarman.

  112. factman66 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:46 PM

    “New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady admitted in 2011 he likes using deflated footballs.”

    There it is right there, Pats fans. Read and weep.

  113. factman66 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:47 PM

    It was on a Boston sports radio station lol.

  114. cb3313 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:49 PM

    skawh says:
    Jan 26, 2016 3:22 PM

    Prove it! Accusations aren’t proof!
    _______________________________________

    Well, if the NFL is using the same standard of proof that they used with Brady…He is already guilty. Your welcome.

    If your so innocent Peyton, turn over your cell phones. Failure to do some means you must be guilty. If HGH appears in any text messages on you phone or emails…No matter the context…Guilty! He hasn’t denied it being shipped to his house…Guilty!

    According to the precedent the NFL set with Brady…Manning is already Guilty!

  115. kindbass says: Jan 26, 2016 5:49 PM

    ctbarryjr says:
    Jan 26, 2016 3:34 PM
    Anyone seen manning throw a ball lately? There is your answer. And if he was taking, he should sue the company, as it would be clear, they didnt work. I am a texans fan and hate manning and brady. But i can see the difference in a cheat and someone who plays by the rules.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    So in 2011, doctors say he’ll probably never play again. His own brother said he couldn’t throw a football five yards. His wife gets HGH shipments in the mail, and Peyton comes back to throw 55 TD’s at age 37. Yup, nothing suspicious there….

  116. factman66 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:49 PM

    It’s pretty hilarious how when Pats fans are faced with inconvenientl facts they accuse people of lying. The only people lying about the Patriots and their cheating are Pats fans.

  117. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 5:54 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:49 PM

    It’s pretty hilarious how when Pats fans are faced with inconvenient facts they accuse people of lying. The only people lying about the Patriots and their cheating are Pats fans.

    Or you are just a hater. I love it

  118. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Jan 26, 2016 5:56 PM

    Goodell and all his cronies are former NY Jets employees. They loathe the Pats, they loathe Brady, they loathe New England.

    —-
    Belichick was their real target. Brady was just a means to an end.

  119. croc3968 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:57 PM

    NY Times followed up with an article that was very condemning on the Sly and his partner. This is way more than Manning. The NYT article possibly might implicate many pro athletes, possibly even Derek Jeter . MLB takes this seriously, the NFL wants to bury it’s head.

  120. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 5:57 PM

    I still haven’t heard one explanation, from delusional fans or the team about why they have an employee nick named the “deflator”.

  121. senatorblutarsky says: Jan 26, 2016 5:58 PM

    So I guess the NFL elected to protect the HGH Boy, manning.

  122. cb3313 says: Jan 26, 2016 5:59 PM

    Jan 26, 2016 4:48 PM

    Brady will forever be associated with cheating. Whatever happens with this lawsuit won’t change that.
    ________________________________________

    Only by the Trolls and they are so easy to smack down. Watch…

    Trolls, site the proof for your crybaby accusations…

    No Proof = No Credibility!

    Patriots and TB12 win again.

  123. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 6:02 PM

    jasoncnz says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:20 PM

    Do any of you Pats fans ever stop to wonder WHY the league has it out for you? It’s because they know just how much you cheated. Unlike us fans, the league actually got to see all those tapes that Belichick had. They saw the extent that the Pats went to to tape signals and practices and so on. The league doesn’t like the Pats b/c they saw first hand the degrees to which the Pats were willing to stoop to in order to gain an advantage.

    And don’t say it’s jealousy. They didn’t go after the Stealers when they were winning multiple SBs. They didn’t go after the 49ers when they were winning multiple SBs. They didn’t go after the Cowboys when they were winning multiple SBs. They only went after NE! Why is that I wonder? Because they know way better than the fans just how much the Pats were cheating
    ———————–

    BS. All of this nonsense started when Goodellbot took over as NFL Commissioner.

    The owners finally had a guy that was spineless enough to do their bidding without asking any questions.

  124. boogerhut says: Jan 26, 2016 6:03 PM

    Well, at least this will keep you busy until your annual Redskins rant. Idle hands and all that stuff right Mike?

  125. croc3968 says: Jan 26, 2016 6:04 PM

    I still haven’t heard one explanation, from delusional fans or the team about why they have an employee nick named the “deflator”.

    —————————–

    He called himself that ONCE in May of 2014. Quick check shows NO NFL games in Mayb 2014. In 99% of the communications he was called “Bird”. Obviously you think he can fly.

  126. rogergoodellisatwat says: Jan 26, 2016 6:05 PM

    Von Miller added 16 pounds in six weeks, right after testing positive for PEDs. ( Reported here and multiple agencies.)

    Roger Goodell won’t stand for steroid cheating in his league!!

  127. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 6:07 PM

    jpurcy says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:57 PM

    I still haven’t heard one explanation, from delusional fans or the team about why they have an employee nick named the “deflator”.
    ———————

    It’s probably because the Patriots don’t have an employee with a nickname of “The Deflator”.

    You really have a startling lack of knowledge about something that has been going on for over a year now.

  128. headwoundharry says: Jan 26, 2016 6:10 PM

    Manning: not a shred of credible evidence linking him to HGH (initial suggestions have been recanted).

    Brady: Pats quickly gave us a first round draft pick and $1M fine hoping to buy their way out of it.

  129. cb3313 says: Jan 26, 2016 6:11 PM

    jpurcy says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:57 PM

    I still haven’t heard one explanation, from delusional fans or the team about why they have an employee nick named the “deflator”.
    _______________________________________

    That’s because you are a Troll and you wouldn’t listen or be able to understand. No one owes the Trolls an explanation. Explain why NFL officials were proven lairs multiple times through out the witch hunt. Explain why NFL leaked lies to ESPN… Let’s start there…Ok Troll?

    Kiss The RingS!

  130. bryonneufeld says: Jan 26, 2016 6:15 PM

    The NFL does most things really well, but seem to struggle in dealing with off field behavior/ethical controversies. They are the most scrutinized league in our country and seem to have the most baggage among the players. Not an easy task to deal with in the media age.

  131. whywerule says: Jan 26, 2016 6:15 PM

    Report comment
    jpurcy says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:29 PM
    Patriots fans, first of all that’s all you are. It is not “your” team….

    Yes it is “my” team, as it is “my” team to millions of Patriot fans.

    And unlike you we are proud to admit that we cheer for a specific team, especially since that team is the Greatest NFL Dynasty of All-Time, of Any Time, the New England Patriots.

  132. j0esixpack says: Jan 26, 2016 6:16 PM

    Gotta love these Pats haters who are STILL asking the same old questions just because they don’t like the answer

    “Explain the deflator” again? Well ok – for the last time his job was to deflate/reinflate/prepare footballs. Google “Eli Manning’s Footballs Months in the Making” to learn more about the process every team uses with their own “deflators”

    That’s proof that Brady had guys like the Manning’s do breaking in footballs – nothing more

    Oh and btw – look up “retracted” and then explain how a violation of a new 2006 rule in the first half of the first 2007 game invalidates all past Super Bowls

    God it’s tough not to feel superior

  133. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 6:17 PM

    croc3968 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 6:04 PM

    I still haven’t heard one explanation, from delusional fans or the team about why they have an employee nick named the “deflator”.

    —————————–

    He called himself that ONCE in May of 2014. Quick check shows NO NFL games in Mayb 2014. In 99% of the communications he was called “Bird”. Obviously you think he can fly.

    Then why did he call himself that? Why did that nick name even become a thought? I’m not saying he was called that every day.

  134. mathprof84 says: Jan 26, 2016 6:21 PM

    w England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady admitted in 2011 he likes using deflated footballs.”

    There it is right there, Pats fans. Read and weep.

    ———-
    Nope.
    His preference was having them at the low end of the range. Other quarterbacks have other preferences. This is why he looked up the rules and provided the ball guys with a copy to show the officials, so that he could have them at 12.5 PSI. In no way does this suggest some elaborate cloak and dagger scheme to deflate footballs after testing.
    But continue making stuff up. It’s fun to pretend.
    I think I hear your make believe girlfriend calling. See you later.

  135. cb3313 says: Jan 26, 2016 6:24 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:49 PM

    It’s pretty hilarious how when Pats fans are faced with inconvenientl facts they accuse people of lying. The only people lying about the Patriots and their cheating are Pats fans.
    ________________________________________

    And we love how Trolls talk about “Facts” like they’ve provided any. Site some “Facts” for us Troll…Failure to do so means we win again! Oh, and don’t forget, accusations don’t = Facts.

    CRICKETS!

    Here, let me show you…

    Fact – NFL officials were proven liars multiple times throughout the Witch Hunt. Goodell, Pash, Nash, Vincent.

    See? Work on your “Fact” and get back to us….

    Kiss The RingS!

  136. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 6:28 PM

    Don’t owe trolls an explanation. I love that statement. So just because you see reality, you are a troll. No explanation, no reason. That’s the defense? Just a troll? Just a hater? Just ignorant? Its hilarious because he did call himself the deflator (who cares how many times), and it wasn’t because he was losing weight.

    Keep hiding from the real world of what happened. All you need to see is Brady’s and the Pat’s record, this year, when the weather got cold….

  137. dynastyposeiden says: Jan 26, 2016 6:28 PM

    the league doesn’t want to know they need the poster boy to stay “clean”.

  138. charliecharger says: Jan 26, 2016 6:28 PM

    Al Jazeera? Are you kidding me? Al Jazeera? Hahahahaha

  139. cb3313 says: Jan 26, 2016 6:34 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:46 PM

    “New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady admitted in 2011 he likes using deflated footballs.”

    There it is right there, Pats fans. Read and weep.
    ________________________________________
    There allowed to be deflated to 12.5 Troll. Get back to us when you find where he says, “below the allowable limit”…

    Whack! Another Troll smack down…

    Kiss The RingS!

  140. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 6:34 PM

    headwoundharry says:
    Jan 26, 2016 6:10 PM

    Manning: not a shred of credible evidence linking him to HGH (initial suggestions have been recanted).
    —————————

    The Al Jazeera article named his wife, and not Peyton.

    Manning himself has admitted that his wife had HGH delivered to their house.

    That right there is more evidence linking Peyton Manning to HGH than there was evidence linking Tom Brady to a scheme to deflate footballs.

  141. cb3313 says: Jan 26, 2016 6:42 PM

    mmack66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 6:02 PM
    jasoncnz says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:20 PM

    Do any of you Pats fans ever stop to wonder WHY the league has it out for you? It’s because they know just how much you cheated.
    ________________________________________

    Right…And spent $3.5 million and can’t prove any of it. It is so wide spread and they do it soooo much, but no one can catch them or prove it? Wow. They are good cheaters. All you can do is call them names and make accusations that you can’t prove. Even with all the NFL’s money. WEAK!

    That just adds up to Crybaby Soup from the Loser’s Circle.

    Whack! There goes another Troll!

  142. aljack88 says: Jan 26, 2016 6:42 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:46 PM
    “New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady admitted in 2011 he likes using deflated footballs.”
    There it is right there, Pats fans. Read and weep.
    =================================
    Didn’t he say that he just likes them a little soft? There’s nothing said that he wants them under the minimum setting. Rodgers is quoted as saying he likes his over the maximum.

    and I do believe the script from the Boston radio station was actually a statement from Gronkowski when answering a question about spiking the ball after scoring TDs. I think the reporter jokingly asked Gronk if he was concerned about hurting or ruining the balls to which he answered that Brady likes them a little soft.

  143. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 6:44 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:46 PM

    “New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady admitted in 2011 he likes using deflated footballs.”

    There it is right there, Pats fans. Read and weep.
    ————————–

    That doesn’t prove anything. Does that mean fully deflated?

  144. croc3968 says: Jan 26, 2016 6:49 PM

    NY Times too are you kidding me NY Times haha

  145. joetoronto says: Jan 26, 2016 6:52 PM

    Roger Goodell is Vince McMahon and the NFL is the WWE, this is now sports entertainment.

  146. bushwoodcc says: Jan 26, 2016 6:55 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:46 PM
    “New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady admitted in 2011 he likes using deflated footballs.”
    __________________________________

    What’s your source and what’s the context? Brady said something similar to this in an interview when the show hosts were joking about the impact of Gronk spiking the football.

    Hardly a damning quote, especially if you’d heard the interview.

  147. unoduotres says: Jan 26, 2016 6:55 PM

    Factman,

    Did you conjure up your latest so called facts on an authorized or an unauthorized trip to the bathroom?

  148. cb3313 says: Jan 26, 2016 6:58 PM

    jpurcy says:
    Jan 26, 2016 6:28 PM

    Don’t owe trolls an explanation. I love that statement. So just because you see reality, you are a troll.
    _______________________________________
    What reality? State your reality. Just because you “say” it is reality, doesn’t make it so. I can use the NFL’s own Wells report, that I’ve read, and prove my points. What can you prove? You call “Proof” some lie that ESPN said Goodell said, or some other agenda driven Troll said?

    Do you deny the Ideal Gas Law. You know, the one the NFL admits they knew nothing about, yet made rules based on it. Oh yeah, and these are the same people conducting PSI tests this year. Some how they go from not knowing about it, to being qualified to do tests on. Please. Listen, I get it…People hate the Patriots, but you have been duped into thinking it should be because of Warm Gatorade and puffs of air. And that is just sad…If you haven’t been duped than state your case and your proof or be called a Troll like all the others that grow silent upon the request.

  149. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 6:58 PM

    The patriot footballs were under the legal limit, and they have an employee called the “deflator”

    Let me guesss I’m a troll! And I’m about to be smacked down because you don’t like truth.

  150. tylawspick6 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:07 PM

    So, the NFL is so into protecting Gomer’s cheating and possible other Broncos players, since they’re so well known for RAMPANT roid use through the years, but won’t join hands with MLB to follow up on this investigative report?

    Can this be any more obvious?

    PARITY

    Goodell is all but rooting for the Broncos at this point, sending HGH Head of with Horseteeth into the sunset as known cheaters, that they just don’t care about, simply because Goodell needs selling points London investors.

    Carolina winning would be good, too, since it would be their first championship, but without parity and a balanced league, Goodell has no real key selling point as to why the Jaguars can succeed in London.

    The open corruption by Goodell and the owners, is disgusting.

    This league is going to downhill. It may not show up now, but the more and more Goodell shows poor and arbitrary decisions, the long term health of the league is at stake.

    The union will have strong leverage for the next CBA.

  151. bushwoodcc says: Jan 26, 2016 7:08 PM

    jpurcy says:
    Jan 26, 2016 6:28 PM

    Don’t owe trolls an explanation. I love that statement. So just because you see reality, you are a troll. No explanation, no reason. That’s the defense? Just a troll? Just a hater? Just ignorant? Its hilarious because he did call himself the deflator (who cares how many times), and it wasn’t because he was losing weight.

    Keep hiding from the real world of what happened. All you need to see is Brady’s and the Pat’s record, this year, when the weather got cold….
    ______________________________
    the Deflator texts were isolated and taken out of context to make them look more incriminating. When looked at in context with the messages preceding and following them they are much ado about nothing.

    But people like you aren’t interested in anything factual. Like the fact that the Pats record when the weather turned cold had nothing to do with their losses. Did you even bother to consider the game time temperatures of the Pats losses after Dec 1st?

    Pats lost to Philly in early December: Game time temp was 50 degrees. Unseasonably warm.

    Loss to the Jets—game time temp 60 degrees, unseasonably warm

    Loss to Miami – game was in Miami – 80 degrees.

    Like I said, you have no interest in facts. The reality is the Pats December swoon had more to do with the absence of key players than anything else.

  152. zigthepatsfan says: Jan 26, 2016 7:09 PM

    jpurcy says:
    Jan 26, 2016 6:28 PM

    Keep hiding from the real world of what happened. All you need to see is Brady’s and the Pat’s record, this year, when the weather got cold….

    ———-
    can you explain what you mean? 46, 80, 57, 52…kick off temps for the 4 recent losses…cold weather,,,what???

    even funnier is if it actually was cold ,well that would give Brady that “advantage” your implying he needed as the balls would magically lose PSI

    so not sure which “real world” you live in but it sounds awful

  153. cb3313 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:13 PM

    Jan 26, 2016 6:58 PM

    The patriot footballs were under the legal limit, and they have an employee called the “deflator”

    Let me guesss I’m a troll! And I’m about to be smacked down because you don’t like truth.
    ______________________________________
    Yup. Now you are getting it. It was below the limit due to the Ideal Gas Law. You know SCIENCE! Sorry, I believe years and years of research and not Chris Mortenson from ESPN. By the way, how many balls were actually proven to be under inflated? How many of the Colts balls were the same?

    Whack!

  154. eyeandfootballofhorus says: Jan 26, 2016 7:13 PM

    nfectorman says:
    Jan 26, 2016 3:36 PM

    Peyton Manning*

    Vacate the AFC Championship; vacate everything he’s accomplished since his return from the Frankenstein Mansion and his 97 surgeries.

    He is a PED user Fraud. The same as Von Miller

    Broncos***
    ……………………………………………………….

    might want to hold off on that third asterisk

  155. spotsdad says: Jan 26, 2016 7:13 PM

    INTEGRITY!

  156. bushwoodcc says: Jan 26, 2016 7:13 PM

    jpurcy says:
    Jan 26, 2016 6:58 PM

    The patriot footballs were under the legal limit, and they have an employee called the “deflator”

    Let me guesss I’m a troll! And I’m about to be smacked down because you don’t like truth.
    __________________________________

    No, you get smacked down because you choose to ignore facts and grasp onto a text that was sent in the off season that had nothing to do with preparing footballs.

    When reputable scientists from Carnegie Mellon and Princeton say the deflation was in the expected range and the NFL admits in federal court that they have no evidence despite spending millions of dollars that should tell you that the deflation was natural.

    Hell, even the Wells report admitted it could be certain that any artificial deflation occurred.

    Those are all factual statements, You hang your hope on a text from the off season between guys that call each other names like “Dorito Dink” and think deflator is some nefarious term. Laughable.

  157. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:14 PM

    jpurcy says:
    Jan 26, 2016 6:58 PM

    The patriot footballs were under the legal limit, and they have an employee called the “deflator”

    Let me guesss I’m a troll! And I’m about to be smacked down because you don’t like truth.
    —————————-

    I don’t know if you are a troll or not, but you are completely clueless as to any of the facts that have been known by everyone for almost a year.

    Then you roll in here like you are the first guy to ask these questions.

    On second thought, you probably are a troll.

  158. jjfootball says: Jan 26, 2016 7:15 PM

    THEY WILL PROTECT THEIR GOLDEN BOY!

  159. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 7:17 PM

    Circumstantial evidence. Lets connect the dots: Brady states he likes the balls light. Then multiple teams complain about it. Pats footballs come up illegal, enough of this “it was only a little bit”. Then text messages calling an equipment manager the “deflator”. And the only “scientists” that backed the patriots were…wait for it…..paid by the patriots. I’m shocked.

    And again Kraft accepted every punishment. The team, not the NFL, suspended the “deflator”. Why?

    And this is just the latest cheating that has come out of new England

  160. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:19 PM

    joetoronto says:
    Jan 26, 2016 6:52 PM

    Roger Goodell is Vince McMahon and the NFL is the WWE, this is now sports entertainment.
    —————————–

    At this point, Vince McMahon and the WWE are more credible than Goodellbot and the NFL.

    It has always been sports entertainment.

  161. 46namredyps11 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:19 PM

    Weren’t the Patriots suddenly supposed fumble 37 times a game this year?

  162. irongoats says: Jan 26, 2016 7:20 PM

    Rodgers said he likes his football over inflated what’s the point? There is still no proof NE did anything but haters who have only this in life will cling.

  163. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 7:20 PM

    Do you realize it is not goodell, who I hate as well, but its the other owners that run show? When they go after one of their own, that says a lot about who is the biggest cheating slime ball.

  164. youknowiknowitall says: Jan 26, 2016 7:21 PM

    hey didn’t go after the Stealers when they were winning multiple SBs. They didn’t go after the 49ers when they were winning multiple SBs. They didn’t go after the Cowboys when they were winning multiple SBs. They only went after NE! Why is that I wonder?
    —————
    Because back then, there was a real commissioner rather than a puppet for jealous owners of losing teams.

  165. j0esixpack says: Jan 26, 2016 7:21 PM

    charliecharger says: Al Jazeera? Are you kidding me? Al Jazeera? Hahahahaha
    ——————————————–

    God, not another fellow football fan demonstrating his ignorance about one of the most respected global news outlets – consisting heavily of respected BBC reporters who won’t be bought or sold

    Yes, Al Jazeera – you think because it has a Muslim name it’s not a MUCH more credible news organization than say, ESPN (or CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS etc.)? Please.

    Manning could clear this up VERY quickly by releasing his and his wife’s health records or swearing under oath like Brady did.

    The fact that he won’t is proof of guilt.

  166. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:22 PM

    jpurcy says:
    Jan 26, 2016 7:17 PM

    Circumstantial evidence. Lets connect the dots: Brady states he likes the balls light. Then multiple teams complain about it. Pats footballs come up illegal, enough of this “it was only a little bit”. Then text messages calling an equipment manager the “deflator”. And the only “scientists” that backed the patriots were…wait for it…..paid by the patriots. I’m shocked.

    And again Kraft accepted every punishment. The team, not the NFL, suspended the “deflator”. Why?

    And this is just the latest cheating that has come out of new England
    ——————–

    Yep. Completely clueless.

    Here’s your food, troll.

  167. tylawspick6 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:23 PM

    Fire and Arrest Goodell.

  168. tylawspick6 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:26 PM

    Hey moron above with the low IQ jealous of the Pats….The NFL suspended Jastremski and McNally, but gave the Pats the right to do it themselves. It did not come from the Pats. Also, each individual still works for the franchise, which means the team knows they didn’t lie to them.

    You’ve been had by a psycho commissioner who is a pathological liar, which has proven repeatedly.

    Get over it….Either you went to college and understand things or ya didn’t.

    Your choice.

    Hitch your wagon to a liar like Goodell or be part of the side with the truth.

  169. bushwoodcc says: Jan 26, 2016 7:27 PM

    jasoncnz says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:20 PM

    Do any of you Pats fans ever stop to wonder WHY the league has it out for you? It’s because they know just how much you cheated. Unlike us fans, the league actually got to see all those tapes that Belichick had. They saw the extent that the Pats went to to tape signals and practices and so on. The league doesn’t like the Pats b/c they saw first hand the degrees to which the Pats were willing to stoop to in order to gain an advantage.

    And don’t say it’s jealousy. They didn’t go after the Stealers when they were winning multiple SBs. They didn’t go after the 49ers when they were winning multiple SBs. They didn’t go after the Cowboys when they were winning multiple SBs. They only went after NE! Why is that I wonder? Because they know way better than the fans just how much the Pats were cheating
    _________________________________

    Very different league in the 70’s than it is today. You cannot compare the situations. It’s like comparing apples and chairs. And that Steelers dynast didn’t last 15 years without a losing season and 13 double digit win seasons.

  170. youknowiknowitall says: Jan 26, 2016 7:28 PM

    jpurcy says:
    Jan 26, 2016 6:28 PM
    Don’t owe trolls an explanation. I love that statement. So just because you see reality, you are a troll. No explanation, no reason. That’s the defense? Just a troll? Just a hater? Just ignorant? Its hilarious because he did call himself the deflator (who cares how many times), and it wasn’t because he was losing weight.

    Keep hiding from the real world of what happened. All you need to see is Brady’s and the Pat’s record, this year, when the weather got cold….
    ———————-
    So we’ll go with ignorant then – ignorant of the fact that the cold does the deflating whether Brady or anyone else wants it done. So, it would seem that the warmer weather games (with no natural deflation) would be more of a problem for someone who prefers a lower pressurized ball than the colder weather.

  171. megnailsit says: Jan 26, 2016 7:29 PM

    jpurcy:

    Thanks for that example from a Middle school exam as to the definition of circumstantial evidence. It’s just too bad it doesn’t meet any legal definition of proof, although I guess your cherry-picked cut and paste of facts makes you seem intelligent to some?

  172. plum54 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:34 PM

    Jpurcy:pretty obvious you have not kept up, where ya been? Brady wanted his footballs @ 12.5, which is legal….the Pats balls were not illegal they fell within the expected level of losing pressure….one text message from May of 2014 talks about a deflator , no football in May…wrong again about the just scientists paid by the Pats backing the law of physics …the NFL told the pats to suspend the ball boys…Kraft had no choice but to accept the fine
    Once again where have you been? Jail?? Or in a coma?
    Did you also sleep through the NFL telling Judge Berman they had NO evidence against Brady??

  173. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Jan 26, 2016 7:36 PM

    factman66 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 5:49 PM
    It’s pretty hilarious how when Pats fans are faced with inconvenientl facts they accuse people of lying. The only people lying about the Patriots and their cheating are Pats fans.
    _____________________

    Says the guy that lies on internet posts for sport.
    Going to tell us again what a Giants fan you are?
    How about telling us again how the owner Forbes’ profiled as a self made billionaire inherited his money? Maybe more of your BS about Kraft going to prestigious private schools even though he is one of Brookline public schools most famous alums? The proven liar here is nofactman just as the only proven (publicly documented) liar in the whole framegate mess is Goodell. The proof of both is not hard to find

  174. patsfiend says: Jan 26, 2016 7:42 PM

    God forbid the NFL distract the Sheriff the way they did to Brady leading up to last year’s game.

  175. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 7:42 PM

    How was it cherry picked?

  176. lolo376 says: Jan 26, 2016 7:47 PM

    What’s so hard about getting to the truth, he has yet to deny that it has been shipped to his house, is their a prescription for his wife? Of course not, the NFL will never do anything to tarnish the Manning Family #Integrity? What a joke,

  177. peterguzu1234 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:01 PM

    Patriots fan here. Congratulations to the Broncos Fans for their team’s victory. I wish you good luck in the Superbowl.

    I do not know if Peyton Manning used HGH or whether it was sent to his house. But there seems to be enough to the report to have other major groups investigate the issue. The NFL should as well.

    As for the annoying fellow who keeps asking a Pats fan to explain the deflator text. I will. Frankly it is irrelevant. The nickname is used in only ONE text. Further that text is from May 2014 – 7 months before the AFC Championship game. The contents of this one text are repeated 13 or 15 times in the Wells Report making one think it was used repeatedly by like a nickname. It is no more relevant than when your girlfriend called you a Momma’s boy in a text before she broke up with you.

    Also remember Brady bashers, he testified under oath at that sham of an appeal presided over by Roger Goodell last summer. If caught in a lie Brady faces real legal consequences. Explain why he would take on legal consequences if he in fact ordered the footballs deflated.

  178. eyeandfootballofhorus says: Jan 26, 2016 8:01 PM

    jpurcy says:

    Circumstantial evidence. Lets connect the dots: Brady states he likes the balls light. Then multiple teams complain about it. Pats footballs come up illegal, enough of this “it was only a little bit”. Then text messages calling an equipment manager the “deflator”. And the only “scientists” that backed the patriots were…wait for it…..paid by the patriots. I’m shocked.

    And again Kraft accepted every punishment. The team, not the NFL, suspended the “deflator”. Why?

    And this is just the latest cheating that has come out of new England
    …………………………………………………………………….

    it’s not like a troll to imply the patriots went through a full season clean–what gives?

  179. mmack66 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:05 PM

    lolo376 says:
    Jan 26, 2016 7:47 PM

    What’s so hard about getting to the truth, he has yet to deny that it has been shipped to his house, is their a prescription for his wife? Of course not, the NFL will never do anything to tarnish the Manning Family #Integrity? What a joke,
    ————————

    Yet to deny? He already admitted it was sent to his wife, and that is the convenience he will use to make the truth go away.

  180. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 8:15 PM

    Because look at the seasons they don’t cheat, they lose. They lost to the freaking eagles. And remember all the predictions of “Peyton sucks”? Yeah we all know defense wins, but you still have to score points.

  181. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 8:18 PM

    All Judge Berman ruled is that punishment didn’t fit the crime.

  182. ikeclanton says: Jan 26, 2016 8:19 PM

    What’s wrong with liking the balls on the lighter side of legal?

    Answer: Nothing. Never was. Which is exactly why Brady outlined the legal range of PSI to referees in a game well BEFORE deflategate, because they’ve never had a policy in place before this, and some balls were way overinflated. Now, if he’s as guilty as you say (more like, “wish”), tell me, why ON EARTH would he do that?

    Your jealousy of the Patriots and Brady’s success has descended you into a whirlwind of despair–you want said success to come from something, ANYTHING else…but sadly for you and the haters, it doesn’t. Whoops!

    Reasoning with some guy ironically named “Factman” with a biased agenda is futile. The actual fact is that a federal judge (not some dude in his basement) decided that this entire thing was a farce from the beginning, without a shred of proof–even after a biased 5 Million dollar investigation.

    Now, THERE’S a fact for you. See how it feels as you let it wash over you.

  183. factman66 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:29 PM

    Poor Pats fans. They want so badly for everyone to turn a blind eye to their team’s cheating and buy their childish excuses. Sorry, it ain’t happening.

  184. factman66 says: Jan 26, 2016 8:53 PM

    Who would be jealous over having a cheating legacy and an unethical reputation?
    Pats fans confuse jealousy with pure disgust.

  185. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 9:09 PM

    ikeclanton:
    The problem with your statement is that the pats footballs were not legal.

  186. jpurcy says: Jan 26, 2016 9:30 PM

    Ikeclanton:

    And judge Berman ruled that the punishment didn’t fit the crime. He never ruled that anyone was innocent. There was not a precedent for this type of cheating.

  187. i10east says: Jan 27, 2016 9:33 AM

    The channel Al Jazeera America will be no more on April 30, 2016 #thepeytoneffect #antiAmericanbiasnomore

  188. dokerjams says: Jan 27, 2016 10:20 AM

    The same day the Pats lost to Denver the SB ticket prices dropped 38% (Google it)from last year and sales down almost 10%. The ONLY reason there will be an investigation from the nfl is so they can TRY to even come close to the phenomenon that was deflate gate and SB 49 being the highest rated show in TV history!

    Peyton Manning “naturally” recovered from 4 neck surgeries to break Tom Brady’s passing and TD records, then inexplicably couldn’t get a ball passed the 10-yard line. It came out that he had a broken rib and foot but recovered from that, almost supernaturally, all in his late 30’s. The time line for these events are very suspicious considering the nfl started testing for hgh in 2014. Did you see him in that game? Running? My sister in law in her early 20’s had 1 neck surgery, she trained horses and riders, very athletic. Now in her early 40’s she still to this day can not completely turn her head and doesn’t do much without painkillers.
    I have a close friend who had multiple neck surgeries in his early 30’s, he was a foundation carpenter, I remember when he got hurt I was there. Having a 150lbs concrete wall form fall on his head from about 10 feet off of a truck is almost comparable to taking a hit from a pro football pass rusher I’d say. He will never do heavy construction again in his life let alone have a good day playing with his kids. At least not without help from painkillers and steroids.

    My point is, it’s not hard to connect the dots here! Archie Manning is a very influential person. I will never forget Mike DICKa and crew after the AJ story broke, outright slam the whole thing. They all said “He said he didn’t do it so it’s case closed right” PLEASE! Goodell tried to sweep Ray Rice under the rug till TMZ put out there story, he’ll bury this one too, right after they all make a ridiculous amount of money Off from you and me.

    What can anybody do about though, bitching will get us nowhere, demanding his job will fall on deaf ears. I was reading some tweets from Shannon Sharp were he said that “The owners of the nfl teams are still mad that the tapes from Spygate were destroyed so the Patriots don’t get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to deflategate”. That makes a lot of sense to me, I mean the Patriots didn’t destroy those tapes. That’s like saying the tuck rule was Brady cheating, he didn’t make that rule or blow the whistle to review the play. The same Owners that have their foot right up Goodell’s a$$ are now pushing him to make a public statement about an investigation into Manning but find no guilt in him. All the nfl talking heads outside NE will vindicate Manning. It’s all such a joke at our expense. I can’t believe that I written this much about it. In just one paragraph I’ve done more investigating from right at my desk than the nfl or the lame-stream media will ever do. Oh well. Something to think about anyway.

    Peace to you all.

  189. jameedade says: Jun 10, 2016 1:43 AM

    Savvy suggestions , I was enlightened by the insight ! Does someone know if my assistant might be able to acquire a fillable FINRA Form U4 version to fill in ?

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