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Goodell says PSI spot checks found no air-pressure violations in 2015

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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell says the league found no issues with proper inflation of footballs while checking balls at various games during the 2015 season.

In response to Deflategate, the NFL decided this year to check the PSI of footballs at some games. Goodell said in an interview with NFL Network’s Rich Eisen that testing the footballs wasn’t about researching the way air pressure can respond to temperature and game conditions, it was simply about ensuring that teams weren’t manipulating their footballs. And those spot checks found no violations.

“It wasn’t a research study. They simply were spot checks. There were no violations this year. We’re pleased that we haven’t had any violations and we continue the work, obviously, to consistently and importantly enforce the integrity of the game and the rules that are designed to protect it,” Goodell said.

But maybe the NFL should have done a research study, and not just spot checks. After all, some scientists have come forward to say that the low PSI measurements on the footballs used by the Patriots in last year’s AFC Championship Game could have simply been a result of the footballs being used during a game played in cold weather. A thorough study might have revealed that footballs drop in pressure in games played in weather conditions similar to those of last year’s AFC Championship Game, which would strongly suggest that the Patriots and Tom Brady did not deserve to be punished for Deflategate.

The NFL, however, did punish the Patriots and is still seeking to overturn a judge’s ruling that prevented them from suspending Brady. Goodell doesn’t sound like he’s going to back down on seeking to suspend Brady, which means that if the NFL wins in court, Brady could be suspended for the first four games of 2016.

“I have great admiration for Tom,” Goodell said. “I know him personally. Obviously I respect his playing ability – he’s an extraordinary player – a sure Hall of Famer and I have nothing but admiration for him. But I have to make sure that we continue to do the things that are necessary to protect the integrity of the game and I will do that without compromise.”

The Patriots would argue that if Goodell really wants to protect the integrity of the game, he should have seen to it that the league did more than just PSI spot checks.

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  1. vancouversportsbro says: Feb 2, 2016 5:59 PM

    Integrity of the game eh. Why did Kraft only lose a first rounder and a million?

  2. coolzog says: Feb 2, 2016 5:59 PM

    What is the point of checking the PSI for violations when nobody employed by the NFL seems to understand the basic science involved?

  3. butwhatabouttheintegrityofthegame says: Feb 2, 2016 5:59 PM

    the NFL has concluded that their own conclusions were concluded correctly.

    If they really supported the nfls side they would’ve thrown it in the pats face.

  4. RavenzGunnerz says: Feb 2, 2016 5:59 PM

    This is what happens when you keep Tom Brady under check.

  5. mogogo1 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:00 PM

    A longer but more descriptive headline would have been: “Guy who really wants there to be no violations declares there to have been no violations without producing any evidence that checks were even performed”

  6. demolition510 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:01 PM

    Something fishy happened during BB’s stay. We don’t know the whole story.

  7. truthprofessor says: Feb 2, 2016 6:02 PM

    So…. release the data from the spot checks! Some of the spot checks were done in cold games, presumably.

    We just want to know what were the measurements and how they were recorded. This is not hard!

    We won’t find out ANYTHING, though, since such info would hurt the NFL’s bogus court case against Brady.

  8. veddermn8 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:02 PM

    “There were no violations this year. ”

    Pats Colts AFC Title game was in 2015. Shame you wasted all the time and money, Roger, but thanks for the exoneration.

  9. JayShockblast says: Feb 2, 2016 6:03 PM

    “RavenzGunnerz says:
    Feb 2, 2016 5:59 PM
    This is what happens when you keep Tom Brady under check.”

    What he’s three points away from another Super Bowl like he is basically every year?

  10. slick50ks says: Feb 2, 2016 6:04 PM

    No cheating detected.

    No Pats in the Super Bowl.

    You do the math.

  11. patsbrat says: Feb 2, 2016 6:05 PM

    “I have great admiration for Tom, I just have to call him a cheat and a liar because otherwise our league would look bad.”

    Goodell’s sense of integrity… HA!

  12. RavenzGunnerz says: Feb 2, 2016 6:05 PM

    vancouversportsbro says:
    Feb 2, 2016 5:59 PM
    Integrity of the game eh. Why did Kraft only lose a first rounder and a million?
    —————————–

    If I cheat the game, win a super bowl, I get ducked just 1mil + 1st rounder…

    I will take that deal any day.

  13. i thumbs down your comment says: Feb 2, 2016 6:06 PM

    Also didn’t find any in 2014 IIRC

  14. joker65 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:06 PM

    All the spot checks were done in September.

  15. Unchained81 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:09 PM

    It would be nice if even the biggest Patriots haters could finally admit that deflategate was an agenda driven farce from the start. The NFL has NEVER cared about the care of the balls that much. The level of unnecessary “controversy” was staggering. What an unfair pile of rubbish it was.

  16. chucklesmcredbeard says: Feb 2, 2016 6:09 PM

    Even if the numbers were released, it’s not like he couldn’t just change the numbers to back up his conclusions. This whole thing has been so dumb I can’t even comprehend how over a full year later anyone can even act like they care.

  17. bradwins says: Feb 2, 2016 6:09 PM

    Most predictable result ever. The NFL wasn’t interested in being proven wrong in their treatment of Brady and the Patriots. I’m sure the “spot checks” were all done in San Diego, Miami, in a few northern stadiums in September and in a few domes. They were never going to risk exposing themselves and the absurdity of what they did last year. I have been saying that since they announced they would test the footballs.

  18. dansardo says: Feb 2, 2016 6:10 PM

    If there was ever any doubt by any reasonable person that the balls lost pressure naturally the nfl’s refusal to produce this information makes it clear the nfl fabricated the whole thing

  19. trevor190 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:11 PM

    Goodell and the NFL franchises should be congratulated on refusing to obey the so-called laws of science.

  20. cueghost says: Feb 2, 2016 6:12 PM

    There is only one reason to have used “spot checks” instead of just checking every ball from every game…. and that is so that they can control the results, of course.

  21. tomsetter123 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:12 PM

    RavenzGunnerz says:
    Feb 2, 2016 6:05 PM
    vancouversportsbro says:
    Feb 2, 2016 5:59 PM
    Integrity of the game eh. Why did Kraft only lose a first rounder and a million?
    —————————–

    If I cheat the game, win a super bowl, I get ducked just 1mil + 1st rounder…

    I will take that deal any day.

    —————————————————-

    yep – good trade off – Ask the Bronco’s
    They ‘circumvented the cap” between 1996-98

    Cost? About $950K + 3rd rnd pick for 2 Lombardi’s

    Good deal!!

  22. patsfan says: Feb 2, 2016 6:12 PM

    FTR, it was a first and a fourth…

    Oh and the timing and content of Goodell’s statement is purposeful to say the least.

    He nimbly steps around saying that footballs inflated to 12.5 psi in a warn locker room didn’t fall below 12.5 once they were out in the cold air on a wet field. Anybody with tires on their car would see the fallacy of that.

  23. redsoxu571 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:13 PM

    If Goodell were really about the integrity of the game, he would suspend himself for a year for manipulating justice, publicly declare that he did not order an impartial investigation by Ted Wells, and fine himself a sizable amount of money. But of course we all know that he doesn’t care a bit about the integrity of the game.

  24. jrterrier5 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM

    Goodell should be fired. If there were spot checks and who knows because we only have Goodell’s word for it, then by application of the Ideal Gas Law some of the balls would have tested below the 12.5 pregame set. How does he then know there were no violations?

    Deflategate was an abomination and a naked attempt to affect the competitive results of the league by keeping Tom Brady from playing. Goodell blatantly lied after the appeal process, which came to light only after Judge Bernan ordered all filings to be public.

    It’s just plain wrong that NFL works this way. Goodell, Vincent and all the owners who have supported his handling of Deflategate should be banned from football.

  25. BenAnderson58 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM

    After all, some scientists have come forward to say that the low PSI measurements on the footballs used by the Patriots in last year’s AFC Championship Game could have simply been a result of the footballs being used during a game played in cold weather.

    57 degrees and drizzling is not a cold weather game.
    If they tested the balls at any Vikings game in November and December and found no violations, then maybe, just maybe, the Pats actually did let air out of the balls.
    Regardless, I believe doing so is a misdemeanor by comparison to Spygate. They weren’t winning because Tom Brady likes deflated balls.

  26. steveinames says: Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM

    Well paid 💰 Liar 💩

  27. Unchained81 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM

    slick50ks
    Feb 2, 2016, 6:04 PM EST
    No cheating detected.

    No Pats in the Super Bowl.

    You do the math.
    ————————

    Such a foolish take. The Patriots were tearing up the league until a record amount of injuries hit them. Yet there they were a 2 point conversion from yet another Super Bowl.

    It is just mind-boggling the level of nonsensical opinions by people who simply cannot accept that NE is markedly better than 95% of the league. Salary cap mastery, not overpaying stars, letting stars walk, coaching, and in and on. They’re just that good.

  28. DennisT says: Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM

    Whatever side you come down on it is a FARCE that the NFL did not collect and release data

  29. veddermn8 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM

    slick50ks says: Feb 2, 2016 6:04 PM

    No cheating detected.

    No Pats in the Super Bowl.

    You do the math.
    ____________

    I know your so good at math, but it helps if you read the article. Goodell said no vi0lations were found this year which would include AFC title game of 2015.

  30. iamkillerfin says: Feb 2, 2016 6:15 PM

    It really don’t matter the CHEATERS will ALWAYS get off free but what ever, the by GOD patsies the darlings of the NFL were ELIMINATED FROM THE PLAYOFFS!!! HA HA HA!!!

  31. bleedsoe9mm says: Feb 2, 2016 6:15 PM

    AKA if they release the numbers there wouldn’t be any teams left with 1st round picks

  32. zigthepatsfan says: Feb 2, 2016 6:15 PM

    clown show

    that’s even more obvious now but the usual suspects on here still can’t see that

  33. matt2calvin says: Feb 2, 2016 6:16 PM

    He is parsing his words like a cheap politician – that is pathetic.

    “There were no violations this year” actually means that the pressure drops were not larger than expected. I’m positive that they recorded pressure drops on the coldest days – so they should be forced to release the actual readings to protect the integrity of the game.

    This man makes me sick.

  34. rideforjesus says: Feb 2, 2016 6:16 PM

    Why am I not surprised??? Leaks came out last week they were going to produce numbers.

    This week without the Patriots in the super Bowl why bother releasing them?

    Is it because the numbers reflect raw data that can support or deflate Tom’s case?? (Pun intended)

    You all be the judge when it comes to Mr. good (guy) dell….

    Yes Mr goodguy, had a chance to truly uphold the integrity of the game and you fumbled it all away. What a waste of time.

    Sd sad Day for the NFL integrity.

  35. rideforjesus says: Feb 2, 2016 6:16 PM

    Why am I not surprised??? Leaks came out last week they were going to produce numbers.

    This week without the Patriots in the super Bowl why bother releasing them?

    Is it because the numbers reflect raw data that can support or deflate Tom’s case?? (Pun intended)

    You all be the judge when it comes to Mr. good (guy) dell….

    Yes Mr goodguy, had a chance to truly uphold the integrity of the game and you fumbled it all away. What a waste of time.

    Sad sad Day for the NFL integrity.

  36. jag1959 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:19 PM

    So once again the league found exactly what it wanted to find? I’m shocked. Without a full release of data and methodology this is meaningless. It is just another blatant headline manipulation, which is all it was ever intended to be

  37. DennisT says: Feb 2, 2016 6:20 PM

    after the saga of deflategate people deserve to know the truth about this situation.

    Not a crooked commissioner, who has CONSISTENTLY LIED TO THE PUBLIC since 2006, assuring everyone that spot checks were done and no findings were discovered?

    The NFL should have hired a TRULY independent firm to collect and release data

    This man is a liar, a jerk and the worse thing to happen to the NFL

  38. baltimorons says: Feb 2, 2016 6:20 PM

    Must not have checked patriots balls

  39. jvw1982 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:22 PM

    Ain’t that a coincidence, PSI spot checks all were within league levels and the Patriots don’t win a Super Bowl……

  40. longtimefanh8tr says: Feb 2, 2016 6:23 PM

    You get caught cheating and then you find out a new way.

  41. davew128 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:23 PM

    BenAnderson58 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 6:14 PM

    57 degrees and drizzling is not a cold weather game.
    *****************************
    No, however it was 49 degrees at halftime, and both that and the wetness had an effect on ball PSI compared to 70 degrees and dry in the locker room before the game.

  42. rolf1015 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:23 PM

    FRAUD-ger

  43. surfinbird1 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:24 PM

    Does he expect people to swallow this garbage. What a total farce. Embarrassing for the NFL.

  44. chawk12thman says: Feb 2, 2016 6:24 PM

    Wouldn’t expect violations in 2015 as the issue was known and checks made randomly……That said; the reason for the appeal is not to prove anything….It is to maintain the penalty structure and decision making at the Commissioner’s Office as per the NFLPA/NFL contract…..The NFL has to appeal just as the NFLPA would have had to appeal the lower court decision if it had gone against them…….

    This is no longer a “Brady did it” issue or is the Commissioner a good NFL employee, but is a NFLPA/NFL contractual issue that has huge ramifications going forward….Regardless on how it falls, lets get the answer and move on……..

  45. DennisT says: Feb 2, 2016 6:24 PM

    The NFL is about to lose again in Federal court. If they really believe Tom Brady did this, what disincentive is there to NOT collecting and releasing supporting data?

    The only reason GOodell said this is because the data collected supports what Brady has said since day one. If there was a shred of evidence that would make Brady look bad they would have hand delivered to ESPN, big media, etc

  46. brianyourwordsarehurtful says: Feb 2, 2016 6:24 PM

    Oh, the spot checks revealed no violations? Well, that’s that, then.
    Release the data!!!

  47. whywerule says: Feb 2, 2016 6:27 PM

    What a piece of trash Goodell continues to be.

    Robert Kraft should be ashamed of himself because he is at least as much to blame for Goodell as anyone.

    Kraft has been mostly a great owner for the Pats, I am very happy that the Pats are in the hunt year after year, but shame on Robert Kraft for Goodell.

    -At Least Tied for the Biggest Pats Fan on this Board.

  48. daysend564 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:27 PM

    In other Boston news, Patriots fans line up to drink what looks (and smells) like big jars of Brady’s urine.

  49. trina16 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:29 PM

    Goddell, you piece of coprolite, give us our picks back and realese the PSI numbers!

  50. rjpats says: Feb 2, 2016 6:29 PM

    So the NFL has never found any under inflated balls in any game, ever.

    Glad we went through a full year of nonsense to get there.

  51. tuttle35 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:29 PM

    Of course he is not going to come out with any information that would ruin his case against Brady. Of course anyone with a brain knows this whole “controversy” was much ado about nothing. Typical if you don’t have a case be very vague.

  52. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Feb 2, 2016 6:30 PM

    LOL. Did anyone expect anything different? Of course the cowards won’t release the numbers.

    I think all who are being honest know why.
    :)

  53. plum54 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:32 PM

    So the laws of physics don’t apply when ” spot checks” are done!?
    How does he explain 3/4 Colts balls being under regulation in the AFC game ?

  54. dinozzo27 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:32 PM

    Roger…..5 minutes after the appeal gets thrown out put out a statement that the draft choices and fine have been returned to the Patriots…..good to see the no life trolls are still around

  55. coloradical420 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:33 PM

    I think we can all agree it’s time to move on past this whole deflate thing.

  56. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Feb 2, 2016 6:34 PM

    Patriots led the league in fewest fumbles. Again. So much for that theory.:)

    Maybe if Wussies accepted their losses over the years to the Patriots like men we would be back to discussing football a long time ago.
    :)

  57. fordbw says: Feb 2, 2016 6:35 PM

    I am amazed at those who overlook the facts of the Brady text messages and the pats equipment guy who took the balls into the bathroom. Anyone with a brain can see they were cheating.

  58. putthatkoolaiddown says: Feb 2, 2016 6:36 PM

    Without Compromise…very funny he would use that term when the investigation for this was compromised from the start by the NFL”s own arrogance…and ignorance.

  59. jeffberk2014 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:36 PM

    Oh Mr. Goodell, what a crock of horse manure. Integrity? What the heck happened before the NE-KC playoff game when the balls got left at the hotel by the refs and the state police had to provide hotel staff escort to bring balls to the game. Ya can’t make this stuff up folks.

  60. helmetcatch says: Feb 2, 2016 6:36 PM

    No violations. Pats fans don’t believe it, or question the methods. Big surprise.

  61. Hitdog18 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:36 PM

    of course they have the numbers, they definitely would have released if they thought they somehow disproved the ideal gas law… surprised they didnt just make them up

  62. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Feb 2, 2016 6:36 PM

    vancouversportsbro says:
    Feb 2, 2016 5:59 PM
    Integrity of the game eh. Why did Kraft only lose a first rounder and a million?
    ————————

    You still mad bro? It was a year ago yesterday the legion of bust got smoked in the 4th quarter. Did all the little 12’s pass the crying towel back and forth? You need a new hobby, this one is unhealthy.

  63. jetssuk says: Feb 2, 2016 6:36 PM

    NFL is just as bad as FIFA. How’s the independent investigation of Peyton’s shipment of HGH to his “wife” going?

  64. hoit624 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:38 PM

    Would love to see the PSI levels for the Seattle Vikings Playoff Game.

  65. brianyourwordsarehurtful says: Feb 2, 2016 6:39 PM

    coloradical420 says:

    I think we can all agree it’s time to move on past this whole deflate thing.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Just as soon as the Patriots get their draft picks and million samolians back.

  66. j0esixpack says: Feb 2, 2016 6:40 PM

    The fact Roger won’t release the psi numbers proves that Brady is innocent

    Goodell has always known this though

    He’s purposefully attempting to frame Brady

    #NFLintegrity

  67. gwhite13 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:40 PM

    Not one word can be believed from that liers mouth…plain and simple!

  68. DrSteveBrule says: Feb 2, 2016 6:41 PM

    All of the money wasted on Deflategate could have gone to help retired players or bigger payouts to improve the quality of the Pro Bowl rosters. Could have easily said, “Starting in the 2015 season there will be PSI spot checks.”

  69. rhamrhoddy says: Feb 2, 2016 6:41 PM

    Tommy needs to reveal the blue Roger shirt with the red clown nose when his name is announced at the Super Bowl MVP ceremony on Sunday.

  70. tb12bestqbevah says: Feb 2, 2016 6:42 PM

    For the life of me I can’t understand how Bob Kraft can sit in the same room with this agenda driven fraud. How can he look him in the eye and shake his hand?

    I just don’t get it.

  71. bostoner27 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:43 PM

    “we are going to record the PSI in the game balls before kickoff, at half time and at the end of the game, the recordings will then be submitted to the NFL in the official’s game report” – memo from NFL in september 2015.

    “just kidding the results didn’t support our theory so now we are just going to lie some more and pretend that we didn’t record any of the data.” roger goodell

  72. shadywarrior says: Feb 2, 2016 6:43 PM

    Oh what a shock. And we’re releasing it during Super Bowl week so nobody from outside the sports media goes after Peyton, whether he did it or not. Pretty sneaky, Rog. And of course you didn’t do a research study on this apparently super-important ball pressure issue we barely gave a passing thought to before last January. Well that settles it. The balls were fine this year, and Brady balled out, looking like an MVP until the injuries to key players piled up. But this will be spun in a way to indict the Patriots, bet on it. It’s honestly just comical to me now at this point.

  73. fanofsportsman says: Feb 2, 2016 6:47 PM

    It’s nice that all these Pat trolls can’t recognize part 2 of this, basically the ball boys (“deflator”) texts all incriminated them, or that Brady mysteriously destroyed his phone just before they were going to ask for it. Maybe the cold weather effected both the psi and their memories!

  74. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Feb 2, 2016 6:48 PM

    All of the money wasted on Deflategate could have gone to help retired players or bigger payouts to improve the quality of the Pro Bowl rosters

    or even better….improve the officiating.

  75. jchipwood says: Feb 2, 2016 6:48 PM

    Its funny how teams that catch the patriots cheating are teams that all of a sudden fall apart the next year. As we know football is “entertainment” as we learned the NFL begged to be coined during spygate court trial in 2010. I guess being bffs with the commissioner does pay off huh Kraft.

  76. jchipwood says: Feb 2, 2016 6:49 PM

    No one really knew all the details of spygate until 8 years later and how Roger tried to cover for his buddy. Maybe 8 years from now we’ll find out what he covered up this time.

  77. byrnestj7 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:50 PM

    We all know they did it. Just move on. Most fans don’t care anyway

  78. tdne says: Feb 2, 2016 6:51 PM

    Sure there was no study. That’s one way of getting out of having to release the results which likely proved the NFL was wrong and the Pats were falsely accused. His statement that ‘there were no violations this year,’ is clearly intended to imply that the Pats intentionally messed with the balls last year. Gotta hand it to old Roger the Artful Dodger though. They got out of having to release their study results by claiming they only did spot checks and get to slam the Pats in the process. Best of both worlds for them. The morons at NFL HQ have no integrity. Just a lot of hate for the Pats.

  79. BobbyHanks63 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:51 PM

    Let’s all try to understand Roger Goodell is the NFL commissioner because he got help from his dad U.S. Senator Charles Goodell from N.Y. State. Five persons were up for that job and the selection committee did not want Roger but a large amount of letters came pouring into the NFL front office from “somewhere” at the last minute, maybe from a campaign machine that only a U.S. Senator would have in his possession and what do you know Roger Goodell becomes commissioner and the most dishonest one ever elected.

    It’s all U.S. politics and crooked as can be. Check it out for yourself and you will find some hard to reflect evidence he had the position in the bag because of who daddy was. Nothing wrong with that because any father would help his son but why can’t the guy do what’s right but no he has to cast empty aspirations on honest men like Brady. He should have the same thing done to him That’s why the guy cannot be trusted.

    I can’t believe there is no one in power that cannot pressure this guy to get out. He is hard to take and the money he gets is immoral for the dishonest man he has become or always was. Who knows? It’s a shame to treat the fans this way and I’m hoping someone in power forces this guy out. He is horrible in my opinion.

  80. futures44 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:52 PM

    If the PSI had no effect. Then why not share the findings with the public. Why did Roger make sure that the footballs during the Minnesota vs Seattle playoff game, were change out at halftime. This clown is so corrupt. Goodell and the NFL office vs Scientists form MIT, and Logic.

  81. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Feb 2, 2016 6:56 PM

    So now I hear they actually had the numbers and just threw them out LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    Can someone from the Broncos or Panthers organization after they receive the trophy please tell Goodell his services are no longer required? I’d appreciate it, thanks.

    #GoodellMustGo

  82. trina16 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:58 PM

    fordbw says:
    Feb 2, 2016 6:35 PM
    I am amazed at those who overlook the facts of the Brady text messages and the pats equipment guy who took the balls into the bathroom. Anyone with a brain can see they were cheating.
    ——————-

    It’s easy to “overlook the facts” when they’re made up. There are NO text messages between Brady and McNally.

    So you want us to believe that the NFL didn’t have enough time to check 24 footballs in 10 minutes with 2 officials measuring, but an overweight guy did have the time to deflate 12 footballs to almost the same spec in 90 seconds in a bathroom?

  83. solo681 says: Feb 2, 2016 6:59 PM

    The Patriots are not in the SB, so why is Rodger the Lying Dodger making this statement now?

    Because it takes everyone’s attention away from the REAL SCANDAL of Peyton’s HGH use = which is a PED violation and subject to suspensions.

    But let’s talk about Brady and Frame-Gate and continue with this “Integrity of the Game” that somehow ONLY applies to the PATRIOTS.

    If the NFL is truly concerned with INTEGRITY = FIRE Goodel

  84. limakey says: Feb 2, 2016 6:59 PM

    Brady is not an honest man. He has lied through out this whole thing. He destroyed evidence. And his willingness to throw JM and JJ under the bus truly defines his character. He gamed the system knowing full well if could never be proved 100 percent. He has not manned at all. He is a liar and cheat.

  85. edelmanfanclub says: Feb 2, 2016 7:01 PM

    The trolls on this site make me happy to be a Pats fan. When they also conclude our season as a failure if we dont win the Super Bowl. Other teams take pride in making the playoffs, improving the year before, or having a winning record. The Patriots are held to the different standard. If they don’t win the Super Bowl, it was a failure of a year. I am okay with that.

  86. tigerlilac says: Feb 2, 2016 7:07 PM

    Goodell should go by the moniker, “Commissioner Disingenuous”.

    He has guys caught getting HGH sent to their homes and prescription drug dealers admitting on tape that they supplied NFL players with banned substances. Goodell’s response? Crickets.

  87. vanmorrissey says: Feb 2, 2016 7:07 PM

    Should have checked ol’ Roger’s noggin as I’m sure that would have come up with pure air.

  88. jchipwood says: Feb 2, 2016 7:08 PM

    I believe finding a cure for cancer is easier than trying to explain to patriot fans the facts of their team cheating.

  89. patriots123456 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:09 PM

    No Data = Self Preservation on Rogers part.

    345 Park Ave. pukes again.

  90. FinFan68 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:09 PM

    This entire saga is a disgrace. The NFL is blatantly corrupt. They could have erased all doubt on this issue by logging the results of PSI tests every game but instead they chose to not be transparent and conduct shoddy spot checks that might have even been manipulated by waiting to do the checks after the balls had a chance to warm up. This statement by Goodell is unverifiable and meaningless. People with reasonable intelligence know that temperature impacts air pressure. If no violations happened then either the definition of a violation changed or the checks were not conducted properly. In cold games it is impossible for the PSI to remain constant when first measured at ~70° and then measured again after over an hour exposure to cold temps. Give the Pats back their cash and picks and drop the Brady nonsense.

    Note to Roger: integrity means doing the right thing regardless of whether anybody sees it. It does not mean manipulating data and circumstances or hiding information in order to validate your position.

  91. rportkid says: Feb 2, 2016 7:11 PM

    This would actually be humorous if it wasn’t so pathetic. Every time Goodell opens his mouth, nothing but lies just flow out..he can’t even help it. So obvious. Disgusting.

  92. tomsetter123 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:14 PM

    FinFan68 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:09 PM
    This entire saga is a disgrace. The NFL is blatantly corrupt. They could have erased all doubt on this issue by logging the results of PSI tests every game but instead they chose to not be transparent and conduct shoddy spot checks that might have even been manipulated by waiting to do the checks after the balls had a chance to warm up. This statement by Goodell is unverifiable and meaningless. People with reasonable intelligence know that temperature impacts air pressure. If no violations happened then either the definition of a violation changed or the checks were not conducted properly. In cold games it is impossible for the PSI to remain constant when first measured at ~70° and then measured again after over an hour exposure to cold temps. Give the Pats back their cash and picks and drop the Brady nonsense.

    Note to Roger: integrity means doing the right thing regardless of whether anybody sees it. It does not mean manipulating data and circumstances or hiding information in order to validate your position.

    ————————————————

    Good Post….
    I found this today…thought it fit Roger…

    Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder in which a person is excessively preoccupied with personal adequacy, power, prestige and vanity, mentally unable to see the destructive damage they are causing to themselves and others.

  93. scottbrowning2 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:15 PM

    Every time Goodell says integrity a little piece of literacy and language comprehension dies in this country…

  94. wwbbd12 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:16 PM

    None in 2014 either.

  95. mmack66 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:18 PM

    surfinbird1 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 6:24 PM

    Does he expect people to swallow this garbage. What a total farce. Embarrassing for the NFL.
    —————————–

    Of course he does.

    People have been swallowing and regurgitating the Framegate garbage since day one, and they will continue to do so as long as the pathetic teams they root for continue to lose.

  96. solo681 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:18 PM

    jchipwood says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:08 PM

    I believe finding a cure for cancer is easier than trying to explain to patriot fans the facts of their team cheating
    ++++++++++++++++

    For once you are 100% CORRECT = There are no FACTS that support the belief that the Patriots cheated.

    Therefore you should have already come up with the cure for cancer.

  97. charliecharger says: Feb 2, 2016 7:18 PM

    A smart cheater is already on to something else. They’ve probably developed highly sensitive listening devices that can hear what’s going on in the opponent’s huddle. Once they get caught doing that, they’ll come up with something else. Just like the videotaping. Once a cheater, always a cheater. The only time Brady deflated balls was in cold weather when it was wet and rainy. Good job by the NFL for nabbing the cheaters. Last year was the first super bowl for Brady in ten years. I don’t blame him for cheating. He’s playing second fiddle in that household. He’s trying to get back to #1. Poor Tommy. Life’s tough.

  98. mmack66 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:21 PM

    jchipwood says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:08 PM

    I believe finding a cure for cancer is easier than trying to explain to patriot fans the facts of their team cheating.
    ——————-

    Both are easier than convincing bozos that the teams they root for lose to the Patriots, not because the Patriots cheat, but because the teams they root for just plain suck.

  99. rolltide510 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:22 PM

    Man, I’ve missed this topic on PFT. Pages and pages of comments from fine Boston men about the Nobel Gas Law and zero discussion of why their equipment managers are texting back and forth about deflating balls at Brady’s request.

  100. idpfantasyfootball says: Feb 2, 2016 7:22 PM

    The NFL spot checked and found that 31 of 32 teams did not have an employee nick-named ‘The Deflator’.

  101. truthprofessor says: Feb 2, 2016 7:22 PM

    jchipwood says:
    I believe finding a cure for cancer is easier than trying to explain to patriot fans the facts of their team cheating.

    I’m a full professor with 3 NIH-funded grants in cancer research, and with over 10 patents toward the development of cancer therapeutics.

    I could easily understand evidence for the Patriots cheating with the air pressure in footballs, IF THERE WERE ANY!

    Unfortunately, no such evidence exists, and yes, PV=nRT!

  102. unoduotres says: Feb 2, 2016 7:26 PM

    Too Bad we can’t find a cure for stupidity

  103. solo681 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:28 PM

    It was three years from his last Super Bowl appearance and ten years since his 3rd Super Bowl Victory.

    Last year was Brady’s 4th Super Bowl Victory over the NFL’s #1 Rated Defense.

    How does your QB stack up to those 4 Lombardi’s

  104. jchipwood says: Feb 2, 2016 7:33 PM

    mmack66 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:21 PM
    jchipwood says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:08 PM

    I believe finding a cure for cancer is easier than trying to explain to patriot fans the facts of their team cheating.
    ——————-

    Both are easier than convincing bozos that the teams they root for lose to the Patriots, not because the Patriots cheat, but because the teams they root for just plain suck.
    __________________________________

    My team have beat the patriots last 3 out of 5 times they’ve played. What does that say about your team?

  105. dsigrey says: Feb 2, 2016 7:33 PM

    He’s full of crap. The truth is that the data doesn’t fit their argument against the Patriots. He said they found no violations? That’s crap too, as the Ideal Gas Law shows pressure changes with temp change. So to say that they never found a single ball under the limit is a crock unless the only tested balls in Miami and San Diego.

    This was supposed to be the leagues response to “deflategate”…


    ■ The NFL designated random games in which to test the football PSI at halftime and after the game. The kicking ball coordinator collected the footballs from both teams at halftime, was escorted to the locker room by the league’s security personnel, measured and recorded the PSI of all 24 footballs, removed the footballs from play, and introduced 24 backup footballs for the second half.

    ■ Before the game, the referee designated two members of the officiating crew to inspect the balls. The officials numbered the balls 1-12, and recorded all PSI data. Previously, the balls were not numbered, the data were not recorded, and only one member of the officiating crew inspected the footballs.

    ■ At the end of each randomly selected game, the kicking ball coordinator again inspected all game balls from each team and recorded the results. All recorded information was supposed to be reported back to the league office.

    So what happened Roger???

  106. BenAnderson58 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:36 PM

    I have to say, I find it funny that people don’t realize that Goodell is just doing the 32 owners’ bidding. In this case, it may be 31. But, he’s doing as he’s told.
    He’s not an autonomous league head who makes decisions based on what HE thinks is best.
    He’s a highly compensated lightning rod through which every unpopular decision the NFL makes is announced.

  107. finchy74 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:36 PM

    A study was obviously done. To assert otherwise is absurd.

    This study obviously showed Goodell that the air pressure numbers from last year’s Patriots/Colts game were not evidence of cheating. Otherwise they would have released the numbers and re-stated their accusation.

    But Goody can’t bring himself to admit that he was wrong.

    The Patriots deserve to have their draft picks back.

    I still want to know what this was all really about. I refuse to believe Goodell’s rationale that this was all about protecting the sport. No sane commissioner of any sport goes after one of the greatest players in the league with such flimsy evidence unless there’s an ulterior motive. There’s something the public doesn’t know about this fiasco and I hope we find out some day.

    -Not a Patriots fan

  108. jchipwood says: Feb 2, 2016 7:36 PM

    truthprofessor says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:22 PM
    jchipwood says:
    I believe finding a cure for cancer is easier than trying to explain to patriot fans the facts of their team cheating.

    I’m a full professor with 3 NIH-funded grants in cancer research, and with over 10 patents toward the development of cancer therapeutics.

    I could easily understand evidence for the Patriots cheating with the air pressure in footballs, IF THERE WERE ANY!

    Unfortunately, no such evidence exists, and yes, PV=nRT!
    __________________________________

    Well I would say you should give up being a professor and stop watching football. It doesn’t seem your doing too well at understanding either one. And yes Belichick + Brady = cheating away multiple victories from other teams and coaches.

  109. phinfan says: Feb 2, 2016 7:36 PM

    Goodell is the patriots PUPPET

  110. solo681 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:37 PM

    FACTUAL EVIDENCE of Tom Brady the G.O.A.T.

    Peyton did not overcome Brady’s Greatness and Brady did not lose the 2016 AFCCG.

    Patriots OLine FAILED

    Belichick FAILED for not taking the two 3 point FG’s which would of given the Patriots 18 points with 2 minutes remaining and the chance to win with a FG.

  111. imodan says: Feb 2, 2016 7:40 PM

    iamkillerfin says:
    Feb 2, 2016 6:15 PM

    It really don’t matter the CHEATERS will ALWAYS get off free but what ever, the by GOD patsies the darlings of the NFL were ELIMINATED FROM THE PLAYOFFS!!! HA HA HA!!!
    —————————————————–
    The absolute joy I take from seeing Dolphins fans rejoicing in the Patriots being eliminated from the playoffs while their team hasn’t sniffed a Super Bowl win in over 40 years can’t be overstated. Unlike their underachieving team it is presumed by most that NE will be at least a deep participant and most likely the favorite in the AFC playoffs next season and in the foreseeable future. Meanwhile that crap box stadium will be half empty in Miami while Gillette will be sold out for the season as usual.

  112. bigbits2 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:41 PM

    Goodell is a lying scumbag.
    There is literally zero possibility that footballs didn’t fall out of range of 12.5 psi in several games this year. That’s not conjecture.
    It’s undeniable fact!

  113. fanofpft says: Feb 2, 2016 7:43 PM

    “The Patriots would argue that if Goodell really wants to protect the integrity of the game, he should have seen to it that the league did more than just PSI spot checks.”

    You cheated many times, were caught yet again. No one should have to appease you.

  114. FoozieGrooler says: Feb 2, 2016 7:45 PM

    Obviously he’s setting up Tom Brady ahead of the March appeal hearing.
    Good.

  115. flash1287 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:48 PM

    fordbw says:
    Feb 2, 2016 6:35 PM
    I am amazed at those who overlook the facts of the Brady text messages and the pats equipment guy who took the balls into the bathroom. Anyone with a brain can see they were cheating.

    Every middle school science teacher in the world says you’re wrong.

  116. trina16 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:50 PM

    rolltide510 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:22 PM
    Man, I’ve missed this topic on PFT. Pages and pages of comments from fine Boston men about the Nobel Gas Law and zero discussion of why their equipment managers are texting back and forth about deflating balls at Brady’s request.
    ——————

    Maybe because, out of the 10,000 text messages, there wasn’t a single one about deflating footballs, much less about Brady wanting them under 12.5 PSI?

    There are also pages and pages about Independent Non-Boston men discussing the Ideal Gas Law and all of them reached the same conclusion… there was no deliberate deflation of footballs. Isn’t it strange that the only people who say that there was tampering are the ones being payed by the NFL?

  117. trina16 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:51 PM

    *paid

  118. factman66 says: Feb 2, 2016 7:52 PM

    The Patriots cheated and water is wet.

  119. cinzano08 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:04 PM

    Hard to believe all the haters still buying this crap from NFL. Just goes to show you p t Barnum was right when he said “there’s a sucker born every minute”.

  120. zigthepatsfan says: Feb 2, 2016 8:05 PM

    finchy74 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:36 PM
    A study was obviously done. To assert otherwise is absurd.

    This study obviously showed Goodell that the air pressure numbers from last year’s Patriots/Colts game were not evidence of cheating. Otherwise they would have released the numbers and re-stated their accusation.

    But Goody can’t bring himself to admit that he was wrong.

    The Patriots deserve to have their draft picks back.

    I still want to know what this was all really about. I refuse to believe Goodell’s rationale that this was all about protecting the sport. No sane commissioner of any sport goes after one of the greatest players in the league with such flimsy evidence unless there’s an ulterior motive. There’s something the public doesn’t know about this fiasco and I hope we find out some day.

    -Not a Patriots fan
    ——————-
    THe Colts brought up concerns about the Pats possibly deflating balls even before the AFCCG. Nobody seemed to take it serious. In fact some that we know knew, denied knowing the Colts brought it up. But then during the game Colts had a Pats ball (From an INT), illegally gauged it on their sideline and wouldnt you know it was a little low on air! Alert the authorities- who admittedly were unaware of the “Science”…Word leaks out…gets over sensationalized by the media…No way to put the toothpaste back in the tube. After today’s “news” it’s pretty clear the NFL just will not admit maybe they messed up. In fact they seem to be OK with the smarter folks knowing how full of it they are because the smarter ones are vastly out numbered.

  121. zigthepatsfan says: Feb 2, 2016 8:08 PM

    bigbits2 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:41 PM
    Goodell is a lying scumbag.
    There is literally zero possibility that footballs didn’t fall out of range of 12.5 psi in several games this year. That’s not conjecture.
    It’s undeniable fact!
    ——-

    He said there were “no violations”…He didnt say balls didnt lose air/fall out of range.

    dont you speak jive?

  122. fanofpft says: Feb 2, 2016 8:08 PM

    Patriots led the league in fewest fumbles. Again. So much for that theory.

    And they were 2nd to last in RUSH YDS.

  123. ebdug says: Feb 2, 2016 8:10 PM

    “The Patriots would argue that if Goodell really wants to protect the integrity of the game, he should have seen to it that the league did more than just PSI spot checks.”

    100 million NFL fans would argue that if Goodell really wants to protect the integrity of the game, he’d resign.

  124. fishman518 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:15 PM

    factman66 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:52 PM
    The Patriots cheated and water is wet.
    ________________

    Factman said something anti-patriots. You sheep.

  125. fishman518 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:17 PM

    trina16 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:50 PM
    rolltide510 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:22 PM
    Man, I’ve missed this topic on PFT. Pages and pages of comments from fine Boston men about the Nobel Gas Law and zero discussion of why their equipment managers are texting back and forth about deflating balls at Brady’s request.
    ___________________

    Texts also showed refs over inflated balls vs jets to 16psi. Ever think that maybe brady wanted them deflated…to 11.5 which was legal? He sent the refs the freakin rule book on it. Why alert the refs to the rule and then deliberately break the rule? It makes no sense.

  126. chaunceylabonza says: Feb 2, 2016 8:18 PM

    This just in:

    THE LAWS OF PHYSICS HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED BY ROGER GOODELL!

    There were *no* violations this season. Even in the coldest of games, the air pressure in the footballs remained between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI.

    Nothing to see here, people. Move along!!

  127. bencoates57 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:19 PM

    And Manning will retire to duck the HGH inquest. Does anyone doubt his wife received HGH on his behalf?

  128. Della Street says: Feb 2, 2016 8:20 PM

    So Roger is saying that the balls at that zero degree Minnesota game were all at least 12.5 for the entire game? How stupid does he think we are?

  129. gwhite13 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:21 PM

    Does anyone know of one website, tv station, sports talk show or team running simultaneous pressure readings of equal balls in game style situations.

    Someone must of thought to run with this.

    This can’t be just left to idiots at 345 Park ave.

  130. cross300 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:22 PM

    Why not release the numbers and let the thinking public figure it out. Truth is they will never release the figures because the ideal gas law tells you that balls lose air in cold weather making them look like even bigger idiots. If that’s possible.

  131. rcosborne59 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:22 PM

    The NFL could of and should of found a reputable lab or university to test under the same conditions in a controlled test as last years AFC Championship game. But unless you are just so blinded by hate for the Patriots you know there was no way the would risk being wrong. This was the white wash that was expected to cover the behinds of Goodell and his corrupt minions.

  132. aljack88 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:22 PM

    Roger also said that it’s ok to drink the water in Flint, Michigan. He knows as much about that as he does about integrity of the game.

  133. 205diamonds says: Feb 2, 2016 8:24 PM

    Why has no media outlet simply performed tests of the air pressure at several games. That would have forced the NFL’s hand when the science was proved on air.

  134. DennisT says: Feb 2, 2016 8:28 PM

    I understand some of you hate the Patriots, but you are not bothered by the NFL Not releasing data

    This is from the NFL rule book:

    “At designated games, selected at random, the game balls used in the first half will be collected by the KBC at halftime, and the League’s Security Representative will escort the KBC with the footballs to the Officials’ Locker room. During halftime, each game ball for both teams will be inspected in the locker room by designated members of the officiating and security crews, and the PSI results will be measured and recorded. Once measured, those game balls will then be secured and removed from play”

    Their own rule book says they recorded measurements now he comes out and says there is no data???????????????

    WHERE IS THE DATA ROGER???????????????

    So ROger Goodell so concerned with the integrity of the game knowingly violated his own rule book?

  135. fanofpft says: Feb 2, 2016 8:28 PM

    It means that the situation that happened before when the pats cheated. Had not been found to be replicated again you chowder headed knuckle draggers.

  136. mmack66 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:29 PM

    Did they use the gauge with the long bent needle or the one with the short bent needle?

  137. DennisT says: Feb 2, 2016 8:29 PM

    “All game ball information will be recorded on the Referee’s Report, which must be submitted to the League office by noon on the day following the game.”

    Also from the rule book HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    what a complete and total loser Goodell is

  138. chaunceylabonza says: Feb 2, 2016 8:30 PM

    trina16 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:50 PM
    rolltide510 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:22 PM
    Man, I’ve missed this topic on PFT. Pages and pages of comments from fine Boston men about the Nobel Gas Law and zero discussion of why their equipment managers are texting back and forth about deflating balls at Brady’s request.

    What?? There isn’t a single text to that effect. Not one. So, it’s bad enough that you hate science, but now you’re willing to invent “evidence” from thin air?

  139. aljack88 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:31 PM

    jchipwood says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:33 PM
    My team have beat the patriots last 3 out of 5 times they’ve played. What does that say about your team?
    ===================================
    They’re not cheating as well as yours is.

  140. Patskrieg says: Feb 2, 2016 8:31 PM

    So….

    Back in August the NFL issued a statement containing a very detailed account of how they were going to collect PSI data. A very very detailed plan in fact that verbatim said they were going to measure and record PSI at halftime at random games. Data that, as recent as only a few weeks ago, the NFL publicly claimed they had recorded.

    Now the story is that they never recorded it.

    Which is it? Did they lie about collecting the data and never collect it? Or did they collect it and lie about never collecting it?

  141. 205diamonds says: Feb 2, 2016 8:33 PM

    factman66 means:
    Factman66 ignores facts and water is wet.

  142. mmack66 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:33 PM

    205diamonds says:
    Feb 2, 2016 8:24 PM

    Why has no media outlet simply performed tests of the air pressure at several games. That would have forced the NFL’s hand when the science was proved on air.
    —————————-

    Because anyone with even the feeblest of brains already knows that cold temperatures lowers the pressure in objects filled with air.

  143. ztigr says: Feb 2, 2016 8:34 PM

    You can tell now that the only ones who still “believe” or want to believe the NFL’s side of this story are pure Brady and Patriot haters, or just plain trolls of your every day type. Even the biggest football fans of other teams now know that this was all a farce and that Roger is paid well for lying. He lies to St. Louis, to Oakland, to San Diego, to wives and widows of permanently disabled players. He promises money to concussion study and then backs out. He would have no problem signing off on a Flint water report and putting his stamp of “integrity” on it…he makes me physically ill

  144. kate773 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:35 PM

    Something tells me if the Pats were in the SuperBowl we’d get a full set of data.

    Lets face it, there’s nothing that the league could come out with at this point that I wouldn’t question. Unless they tested the balls every game with full data recording of every ball before the game, at halftime, and after with all findings notarized and certified by a fully independant witness, I don’t believe anything they present.

  145. patstipoftheiceberg says: Feb 2, 2016 8:38 PM

    Jim The Delfator McNally

    Looks around………where is espn?

    Science is sound but not exact to replicate

    Video of man with balls illegally into bathroom and lies in interview

    Guilty and you can’t rationalize that away

    I wonder how many Patriot bud light cans he sold

    Maybe he’s keeping them all as ‘new kicks’.:):):)

    Should affix the asterisks if you don’t vacate.

  146. paulrevereshorse1775 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:38 PM

    Every time Roger speaks……I feel that he insults my intelligence.

    We need a grass roots effort to give this guy the boot once and for all.

  147. ikeclanton says: Feb 2, 2016 8:42 PM

    Goodell must think that everyone is plain stupid. It’s sheer arrogance that he would announce that they conducted spot checks only, not reveal any data at all, and call it a wrap.

    One conclusion: Goodell and the NFL would never look hard at real PSI data because it would reveal that they were 100% wrong. There’s no way Goodell wants any part of that added heat.

    So, Goodell, you now need to give the Patriots their picks back, then apologize to every man, woman, and child in New England personally for trying to ruin the previously incomparable reputation of Tom Brady. Do that, and we might let you leave the region under your own power.

  148. dst62306 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:45 PM

    It’s clear by reading some of the comments that those who are full of hate and envy have become void of any and all common sense.
    Don’t think for one minute that if Goodell’s “spot checks ” backed up his narrative that we and the rest of the world would not see the numbers but we have not and we will not and that’s all I need to know.

  149. DennisT says: Feb 2, 2016 8:46 PM

    4 superbowls since donkeys last won one peace out

  150. paulrevereshorse1775 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:49 PM

    mmack66 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 8:29 PM
    Did they use the gauge with the long bent needle or the one with the short bent needle?

    ======

    They weighed them

  151. paulrevereshorse1775 says: Feb 2, 2016 8:55 PM

    fanofpft says:
    Feb 2, 2016 8:28 PM
    It means that the situation that happened before when the pats cheated. Had not been found to be replicated
    =========

    If that is the message Goodell wanted to convey, that is what he would have said.

    You have quite the imagination

  152. pauldeba says: Feb 2, 2016 8:56 PM

    The haters comments still prove people still actually think brady cheated, that’s why he needs to release it, oh what the hell, they wouldn’t believe an official video of McNally taking a piss in the bathroom with the balls sitting on the floor. I will watch football unti,l brady retires and then never another game again.

  153. stuartscottslefteye says: Feb 2, 2016 8:59 PM

    What’s Tom Brady’s record in cold weather this year with properly inflated balls? I’d be surprised if its .500. I would have tended to think nothing of Deflate-gate until it was discovered that the ball boy, whom Tom referred to as the “Deflator” (because he was on a diet) took the balls into the restroom. And not to mention TB destroying his cell phone the first day of the investigation. Not the actions of an innocent man.

  154. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Feb 2, 2016 8:59 PM

    And they were 2nd to last in RUSH YDS


    Tee hee:) Patriot Hater sure loves their weak excuses don’t they.
    :)

  155. weepingjebus says: Feb 2, 2016 8:59 PM

    Fire this incompetent liar.

  156. TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says: Feb 2, 2016 9:01 PM

    Super Bowl week and it’s still all about the Patriots:)

    #OfCourseItIs
    #PatriotsRuleTheNFL
    #PatriotsRuleTheUniverse
    #NFLsGreatestDynasty
    #InYourHeads4Eva
    #UrNOTHINGComparedToUS
    #DontForgetThatCupcakes

  157. chaunceylabonza says: Feb 2, 2016 9:06 PM

    Goodell has been busted in so many lies, it is absolutely unbelievable.

  158. rolf1015 says: Feb 2, 2016 9:07 PM

    fordbw says:
    Feb 2, 2016 6:35 PM
    I am amazed at those who overlook the facts of the Brady text messages and the pats equipment guy who took the balls into the bathroom.
    ___________________
    The only text message from Brady that had any relevance was when he sent the following to JJ:
    “You didn’t do anything wrong bud”

    And the equipment guy stops at the john on the way to your field, that is your “proof”.

    But can you explain why was the average psi (11.49) was in the range that Exponent and IGL predicted? If he really did deflate them they would have been much lower (remember Mortensen’s report did not have the correct numbers).

  159. paulrevereshorse1775 says: Feb 2, 2016 9:10 PM

    DennisT says:
    Feb 2, 2016 8:46 PM
    4 superbowls since donkeys last won one peace out

    ———-

    If the Broncos win this SB, it will be their first without circumventing the salary cap.

  160. fanofsportsman says: Feb 2, 2016 9:10 PM

    Wow, all this about psi. The big question is, why did Brady destroy his phone the day before he would have been asked to let them analyze it?????? Why was the ballboy nicknamed “the deflator”?? Anyone with an open mind at all ( which excludes all the trolls here) knows why.
    The bad thing about this is though brady makes the most childish, whiny faces when things don’t go right – he is a great qb. BUT, he will be forever tarnished as a CHEATER!

  161. dasheisenberg says: Feb 2, 2016 9:12 PM

    Phew! I was worried about that…now I can get some sleep…

  162. TebowedOutOfThePostSeasonAndNeverToReturn says: Feb 2, 2016 9:14 PM

    Which is exactly why the Patriots aren’t in the SB. Playing by the rules is tough.

  163. TeeHeeLOLatPatsshaters says: Feb 2, 2016 9:19 PM

    I have to admit, the Broncos were the better team this year. Better luck next year.:)

  164. pauldeba says: Feb 2, 2016 9:20 PM

    “Patriot Hater sure loves their weak excuses don’t they.
    :)”

    Running backs break legs and tear ACL’s more frequently when carrying deflated balls obviously

  165. TeeHeeLOLatPatsshaters says: Feb 2, 2016 9:23 PM

    I was so let down by Tom Brady, mommy told me he would always win. What happened?😦

  166. daveydawg says: Feb 2, 2016 9:29 PM

    NFL=WWF

  167. osiris33 (bandwagon since 1976) says: Feb 2, 2016 9:35 PM

    Again, delusional Deflatriots fans, the “ideal gas law” is not a scientific law of any kind. It is a loose APPROXIMATION of the HYPOTHETICAL behavior of certain “ideal gases” under laboratory conditions, which the air in football stadium certainly is not.

  168. forthegoodofthegame says: Feb 2, 2016 9:44 PM

    The NFL doesn’t release REAL data. It just gets in the way of the independent investigator’s reports.

  169. boobylayne says: Feb 2, 2016 9:46 PM

    Goodell is the perfect puppet for the NFL as he does what he’s told and he’s about as bland as the league. About the only thing in his favor is he looks in better shape than NFL officials.

  170. matt2131 says: Feb 2, 2016 10:06 PM

    “There were no violations this year. ” Meaning that no balls were under 12.5? The league shouldn’t throw out those numbers–they should publish them in the science journal, Nature. This is a very important result: the Ideal Gas Law has been found to be false! Or at least not applicable to footballs.

    Thank you, Dr. Goodell, for your significant contribution to the advancement of physics.

    (But seriously this is the stupidest thing yet from the NFL*. And yet they get away with it. )

  171. dsigrey says: Feb 2, 2016 10:12 PM

    The only people that still believe that footballs were deflated in a scheme are the ones that don’t want to believe otherwise. So arguing with them is a waste of time. Just enjoy the fact that the teams they root for are so bad that they get more excited about a Pats loss than a win by their team.

    Just one more thing… Why are the Broncos players still talking about the Patriots??? Jesus guys, you won the game move on and focus on the pounding you’re about to take.

  172. greenlargo says: Feb 2, 2016 10:14 PM

    stuartscottslefteye says:
    Feb 2, 2016 8:59 PM
    What’s Tom Brady’s record in cold weather this year with properly inflated balls? I’d be surprised if its .500. I would have tended to think nothing of Deflate-gate until it was discovered that the ball boy, whom Tom referred to as the “Deflator” (because he was on a diet) took the balls into the restroom. And not to mention TB destroying his cell phone the first day of the investigation. Not the actions of an innocent man.
    —————————————–
    You are very confused sir.
    Tom Brady never referred to McNally as the Deflator. It was McNally that called himself that. And it was in a text from back before he started working for the Pats. I really don’t buy the storry that it was about weight loss I do have to admit that. But if he wasn’t working for the Patriots then it wasn’t about game balls either.

    The guy going into the restroom for a minute and a half its odd you don’t know of a reason for that. You are a lucky man because a lot of us have to occasionally urinate. Takes about a minute and a half.

    Tom Brady would have been stupid NOT to destroy his cell phone. That thing has his entire personal life in it. You guys act like it was something only used to text McNally. It has family pictures, personal communications between him (a high profile athelete) and his wife (a famous supermodel), personal financial data, and a number of other things that would have been damaging if they got out. Anyone expecting him to hand that device over to the NFL (who was already having ‘leaks’ of incorrect info that was damaging to Brady) is just not reasonable, even kind of stupid. If ha had all of that would have gotten out. TMZ alone would have been offering huge money to the NFL employee that could ghost that thing out. Goodell who was already orchestrating those ‘leaks from unnamed sources’ would have arranged for the phone to be ‘stolen’ just out of spite. Brady did owe them his phone records, and those he gave willingly.

    But it was the comment ‘no actions on an innocent man’ was when I knew you were totally out to lunch. This has all been actions on an innocent man. If I call you a rapist that’s an action, but does it make you guilty just that it was said? I would bet you are not, but look how easy it was to say that.

  173. savethenflfirerogergoodell says: Feb 2, 2016 10:14 PM

    Jets Brass lying to the media going back to the beginning. Save the NFL fire Roger goodell!

  174. cinzano08 says: Feb 2, 2016 10:19 PM

    All he haters hating on tb12 yet they revere ray Lewis involved in an obstruction of justice charge in a double murder! Heck the Ravens built a statue for this criminal. The only conclusion I have is the NFL fan base gets dumber by the day.

  175. restoreintegritytonfl says: Feb 2, 2016 10:26 PM

    The Deflator deflated.
    Lady lied.
    Four tainted rings.

    ****

  176. tylawspick6 says: Feb 2, 2016 10:27 PM

    Brady has to sue. It’s the only way to end this madness.

    The media burying their heads in the sand while Gomer pumps roids with his teammates, is absolutely disgusting.

    Believe it or not NFL owners (not named Kraft), the NFL fan isn’t as stupid as you are treating them.

    Fire and then arrest Goodell.

  177. whispersd says: Feb 2, 2016 10:40 PM

    So now the story is that the NFL was just doing “spot checks,” eh?

    This is what happens when you don’t ever have to explain what you’re doing until after the results are in. It’s a great way to cultivate dishonesty.

    And of course no numbers are shared.

    Another possibility: the NFL was actually engaged in researching the question of how balls respond to changes in temperature, as they had carefully led everybody to believe.

    And when they found results that supported the Patriots, they changed their tune, suppressed their results, and now are asking everybody to move on.

  178. bigdaddy44 says: Feb 2, 2016 10:45 PM

    TOM BRADY 12.5………RETURN THE PICKS!!!!!!!!!!!

  179. whispersd says: Feb 2, 2016 10:47 PM

    The question now is how many Patriot hater/trolls there are who frequent this site? Five? Ten? Perhaps one who works for the league office and has nothing better to do with his time than run a half dozen accounts to poison the conversation?

    Since this website has no meaningful way to prevent sockpuppetry, we’ll never know.

  180. tomrad70 says: Feb 2, 2016 10:52 PM

    They played a playoff football game in sub-zero weather in Minnesota and they didn’t measure low? Really? I was sure Bridgewater and Wilson were going to get nailed.

  181. whispersd says: Feb 2, 2016 11:08 PM

    What’s Tom Brady’s record in cold weather this year with properly inflated balls? I’d be surprised if its .500. I would have tended to think nothing of Deflate-gate until it was discovered that the ball boy, whom Tom referred to as the “Deflator” (because he was on a diet) took the balls into the restroom. And not to mention TB destroying his cell phone the first day of the investigation. Not the actions of an innocent man.

    Wow, there’s so much factual inaccuracy in this that it’s hard to know where to start.

    OK, let’s start with the bizarre focus on cold weather games with “properly inflated balls”. I thought we knew by now that on cold days footballs lose air pressure naturally. Anyway, did you see Brady against the Chiefs?

    And why are you judging QB play by wins and losses? That’s rather weak.

    OK, next we have “the ball-boy, whom Tom referred to as ‘the Deflator’.

    OK, two more errors right there. For starters, he was the locker room attendant for the officials’ locker room. He wasn’t the ball boy. And Tom didn’t refer to him as “the Deflator.” In fact, nobody referred to him as “the Deflator”. He referred to himself as “the deflator” (minus caps) when discussing how he wanted new exercise shoes. To train. To help him lose weight. In May 2014, eight months before the AFC championship game. And this is considered evidence of something.

    Then we have “TB destroying his phone the first day of the investigation.”

    Well, this is the first I’ve heard about this happening “the first day of the investigation”.

    Brady says the phone was damaged and replaced, and that he did not destroy it to hide evidence. Regardless this happened months after the investigation started.

    There does seem to be a divide here between the people who know the facts of the case and the people who still think Brady is guilty.

  182. rogerWWEgoodell says: Feb 2, 2016 11:28 PM

    Love the people who are screaming “release the data” They released it early last year, 11 of 12 2 pounds under remember. Complete lies! As if they wont lie again if they feel like it.

  183. theowlknowsall says: Feb 2, 2016 11:31 PM

    An Accuweather article claimed the temperature at the beginning of the game was in the low 50’s – that is light weather jacket. By the end of the half, it was in the high 40’s. This was not a “cold weather game”. Granted, it was raining, but the temp was ideal football weather in January in NE.

    Why weren’t the balls from the second half deflated even more? They barely moved, they were fine. It was colder.

    And if its science that was the culprit, why did not all the balls deflate equally?

    But the biggest problem was the lies. Hard to investigate when people are lying.

    McNally kept changing his story. “I used the urinal” when the bathroom had no urinal. Taking the balls out early. Etc.

    Brady claimed he did not know who McNally was, but Jim and John completely contradicted that. Brady had signed autographs for John the previous week. Brady now claims, he kind of recognizes his face. Weak.

    But it truly came to fruition with the NFLPA’s last statement arguing that a player has never been suspended from tampering with a ball and no player has ever been suspended for not cooperating with the NFL. Fair arguments, but you are admitting guilt at that point.

    Just admit it, get over the celebrity shaming, take the punishment and move on.

    BTW, Brady is easily a top 5 QB of all time and he does not need to do this to win. But he caught trying to get an edge. Just admit it.

  184. j huber says: Feb 2, 2016 11:47 PM

    I think that means that the NE cheaters earth shattering scientific revelation about how psi works in footballs, was a most guessed, another load of bull crap. When the get caught, they lay down a smoke screen, to camouflage their illicit deeds.

  185. bostonpatriots1stfan says: Feb 2, 2016 11:53 PM

    This is how I interpret Goodell’s comments: The officials checked PSI levels before the start of the game and found them all to be in the 12.5 – 13.5 range.

    Goodell says NOTHING about IN game PSI testing!

    Question This : What do you think those PSI levels were at for the Minnesota vs Seattle playoff game this past January?

  186. swhughes81 says: Feb 3, 2016 12:08 AM

    That’s all well and good but answer me this, if the Pats did no cheating at all, then why we’re both equipment guys fired by the Patriots and not the NFL. Yeah they came back but that was just PR damage control by the Pats. Bottom line something fishy was going on with the Pats, despite what all the Pats lovers and Brady lovers want you to believe. Second, they lost and are not in the Super Bowl, which is icing on the cake

  187. veddermn8 says: Feb 3, 2016 12:31 AM

    If the PSI numbers from the random checks, which by NFL rule, are recorded in the Referee game report, helped the NFLs case it would have been released, or at least brought up at the next appeal hearing. Not holding out much hope for either scenario which is a LOUD silence by Goodell. No PSI numbers released equals no case, sorry Roger, you lost.

  188. smasonsmith says: Feb 3, 2016 1:13 AM

    Why not release the numbers and let the thinking public figure it out. Truth is they will never release the figures because the ideal gas law tells you that balls lose air in cold weather making them look like even bigger idiots. If that’s possible.
    ===
    They’ll never release the figures because they never recorded it. Just like the initial night…

  189. bullcharger says: Feb 3, 2016 2:16 AM

    How would he know if there was a violation or not if they have no idea what happens to a ball based on the temperature and conditions of the game.

  190. bullcharger says: Feb 3, 2016 2:27 AM

    Brad Johnson admitted to paying $7500 to have all 100 footballs tampered with before the 2002/2003 Super Bowl, which he won. He’s coincidentally one of the worst QBs to win a Super Bowl. Rich Gannon had to play with the same footballs, which had been tampered from the standard for Johnson’s benefit and he would not have been prepared for it. He threw a bunch of picks.

    All that is true, but nobody cares. They care about 1 PSI that is barely arguable based on the science. Roger isn’t worried about the integrity of the game at all.

  191. tony2308 says: Feb 3, 2016 2:36 AM

    Translation:

    The data didn’t support our witch hunt so we are not releasing it.

  192. jaxon51 says: Feb 3, 2016 5:00 AM

    So only violation was the Pats in 2015. That’s par for the course.
    But give me a thumbs up because Roger has made a mess of this and needs to go.
    Undoubtly this was an attempt by Roger to appease all the owners who felt he also made a mess of Spygate investigation.
    Love the quote by the owner and also Kurt Warner who said basically the same thing- ” Don’t insult us that Spyagte was about taping from the wrong spot in 2007 Jets game. It was about what was on the tapes of 40 plus games ( not six that Roger claimed- remember to give a thumbs up- Roger talking out the side of his mouth in Spygate and Deflategate) that Goodell had his people destroy in Foxboro 4 days AFTER ruling on the matter” And Kurt Warner added ” if they want people to put this to bed, show what was on the tapes- don’t destroy them”
    Numerous Panther/Eagle/Ram coaches and players have quotes / stories of Pats being ready for plays / formations that they hadn’t run on both sides of the ball. All the Pats say about it is “it was our mistake- we didn’t film from the correct spot” Come on man. I have zero problems with everyone, and its most football fans- have fun with that forever- that want **** put on all their titles. Crooked crooked organization from Kraft to BB to Ernie Adams said to Brady.
    Goodell must go-

  193. nyneal says: Feb 3, 2016 5:37 AM

    This is what Goodell has accomplished during this past season:
    He made sure the balls were properly inflated.
    He made sure games were played in Europe.
    He stopped talking about an 18 game schedule after so many former players have said they are now sorry they ever played in the NFL.
    He watched as 3 teams fought to play in L.A.

    And for this they pay him over 40 million dollars per year.

  194. michael228 says: Feb 3, 2016 5:47 AM

    Do all you hating clowns forget that the colts balls were under deflated yoo?

  195. lunar2013 says: Feb 3, 2016 7:00 AM

    fishman518 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 8:17 PM

    Texts also showed refs over inflated balls vs jets to 16psi. Ever think that maybe brady wanted them deflated…to 11.5 which was legal? He sent the refs the freakin rule book on it. Why alert the refs to the rule and then deliberately break the rule? It makes no sense.

    ___________________

    And THAT is where the NFL is saying where the deflation violation occured. Not that the balls were within regulation, but that he was deflating them to 12.5 psi. Sure, that PSI is legal, but the NFL says he has to deflate them down to get to that level. The assumption is, the refs set it to a higher level, and that Tom and others were deflating them down to 12.5 psi. Now, sure, the refs did make them way higher at 16 psi which is illegal, but this isn’t about the refs. This is about the Patriots. It’s stretching the truth “just enough” to hurt the team on behalf of some of the other owners.

  196. sidelinecameraman says: Feb 3, 2016 7:05 AM

    Facts are always ignored at most levels of our society. Reading through the comments there are misinformed/fallacy spreaders amongst us on both sides of this argument. If the NFL really wanted integrity on this issue they would have spent the money to higher a tester and an accountant to verify readings and then publish them. But they don’t have 30 million to spend on goal line camera systems nor the 3-4 million it would cost to do this properly. But hey San Diego we have “300” million for a new stadium lined up….

  197. psljax says: Feb 3, 2016 7:06 AM

    There are a lot of dumb people in this world.

    That being said…Who cares.

    Patriots have proven to be better than most teams. Everyone pushes the boundaries of the rules. I am just concerned if Roger is so worried about the integrity of the game that he loses sight that the product is starting to suck. Also lost in this is what will become of Peyton and hgh. Two of the greatest ambassadors to the sports raked over the coals over one man’s definition of integrity of the game.

  198. ts1960 says: Feb 3, 2016 7:24 AM

    This is all you need to know:

    Temperatures were historically cold in Minneapolis for the NFC Wild Card Game between the Seattle Seahawks and Minnesota Vikings, and ESPN’s Sal Paolantonio reported before kickoff, citing “an NFL security official,” that the league was concerned about the conditions causing the pressure of the balls to drop below 12.5 PSI. To combat this, referees reportedly will replace all footballs at halftime with backup balls that had not yet been subjected to the frigid climate.

  199. footballfanatic says: Feb 3, 2016 7:43 AM

    Pure ignorance……..thats the only way patriots fans can think there was no cheating. Not ONE football came in below 12.5, not in warm games, not in cold game. But for some random reason the PSI dropped TWO FULL psi in a football at gillette……..unreal these clowns still think patriots didnt cheat. The fact is, Tom cheated and ya’ll got away with it yet again. U lost a 28th pick and Kraft was fined basically the equivalent of fining me $5. This is Spygate all over again. And pat’s fans think Goodell and the NFL is against them……yet they keep getting off the hook. Weird.

  200. footballfanatic says: Feb 3, 2016 8:10 AM

    TeeHeeLOLatPatsHaters says:
    Feb 2, 2016 9:01 PM

    Had this come out after the superbowl what would be your excuse then? The fact is, weather doesnt affect ball pressure in any significant way. Im sure you’ll suggest the pats filled their balls inside a sauna so the air was much warmer than any other football teams or some ridiculous nonsense like that though. Keep dreaming. just be happy Kraft owns the NFL and is Rogers boss and best friend so you guys got away with yet another major cheating scandal (spygate 2.0). You couldnt make the super bowl, so your season was as successful as the browns. Join the rest of the league!

  201. fishman518 says: Feb 3, 2016 8:23 AM

    rolltide510 says:
    Feb 2, 2016 7:22 PM
    Man, I’ve missed this topic on PFT. Pages and pages of comments from fine Boston men about the Nobel Gas Law and zero discussion of why their equipment managers are texting back and forth about deflating balls at Brady’s request.

    _________________

    Where is this text that says Tom told me to deflate the balls under the legal limit. Where is the text that says tom said to deflate these at all.

  202. barneyfifeactionfigure says: Feb 3, 2016 8:25 AM

    It continues to astound me how much propaganda works. The NFL would have you believe the laws of physics don’t apply in NFL stadiums. This couldn’t be further from the case, the laws of our physical universe are consistent (on a non-quantum level) everywhere (including NFL stadiums!). Therefore, no study was needed to determine that the PSI of footballs decreases the colder the ambient temperature is. The only people who still believe the Patriots tampered with the PSI of the footballs in last year’s AFC championship game are people who want to believe it.

  203. rideforjesus says: Feb 3, 2016 9:02 AM

    Let me ask all of you here these 2 questions….

    And Please vote honestly thumbs up means yes and thumbs down mean no.

    Just assume for now If your own Team owner had his 1st round pick and a second round pick taken from your team.

    So your team owner reads this news release from Mr. GoodGuy. …..
    1) Do you think your owner has the right to question why the data wasn’t recorded and retained for everyone to view?
    2) If the data shows fluctuations in PSI and confirms the ideal gas law is indeed in effect, is he within his rights to ask for his picks back?

    Thanks for the honesty…..

  204. hatersgonnahatehate says: Feb 3, 2016 9:03 AM

    …that is physically impossible, according to Boyle’s law. Unless they didnt test at any of the following games

    Over 90 degrees at kick off

    Steelers at Chargers on October 12th, 2015, 93 degrees.
    Below 45 degrees at kick off in October

    Cardinals at Steelers, 45 degrees.
    Bengals at Bills, 40 degrees.
    Giants at Eagles, 44 degrees.
    Below 45 degrees at kick off in November

    Packers at Vikings, 30 degrees.
    Broncos at Bears, 29 degrees.
    Bills at Patriots, 29 degrees.
    Bears at Packers, 39 degrees.
    Dolphins at Jets, 45 degrees.
    Rams at Bengals, 41 degrees.
    Steelers at Seahawks, 38 degrees.
    Bills at Chiefs, 35 degrees.
    Patriots at Broncos, 23 degrees.
    Ravens at Browns, 45 degrees.
    Below 45 degrees at kick off in December

    Bengals at Browns, 45 degrees.
    Seahawks at Vikings, 37 degrees.
    Colts at Steelers, 37 degrees.
    Cowboys at Washington, 41 degrees.
    Raiders at Broncos, 45 degrees.
    Bills at Washington, 43 degrees.
    Panthers at Giants, 41 degrees.
    Broncos at Steelers, 41 degrees.
    Chiefs at Ravens, 41 degrees.
    Titans at Patriots, 40 degrees.
    Cardinals at Eagles, 37 degrees.
    Bears at Vikings, 36 degrees.
    Cowboys at Bills, 39 degrees.
    Rams at Seahawks, 37 degrees.
    Browns at Chiefs, 36 degrees.
    Giants at Vikings, 13 degrees.
    Bengals at Broncos, 16 degrees.
    Below 45 degrees at kick off in January

    Eagles at Giants, 45 degrees.
    Raiders at Chiefs, 37 degrees.
    Jets at Bills, 35 degrees.
    Ravens at Bengals, 35 degrees.
    Steelers at Browns, 34 degrees.
    Lions at Bears, 31 degrees.
    Vikings at Packers, 24 degrees.
    Seahawks at Vikings, -6 degrees.
    Chiefs at Patriots, 38 degrees.
    Seahawks at Panthers, 43 degrees.
    Steelers at Broncos, 43 degrees.
    Cardinals at Panthers, 39 degrees.

  205. magnoliasimms says: Feb 3, 2016 9:24 AM

    stuartscottslefteye says:
    Feb 2, 2016 8:59 PM

    What’s Tom Brady’s record in cold weather this year with properly inflated balls? I’d be surprised if its .500. I would have tended to think nothing of Deflate-gate until it was discovered that the ball boy, whom Tom referred to as the “Deflator” (because he was on a diet) took the balls into the restroom. And not to mention TB destroying his cell phone the first day of the investigation. Not the actions of an innocent man.
    __________________________________

    Then you bought the NFL’s narrative, congratulations! They did get someone with the whole “Tom destroyed his cell phone, even though we told him we didn’t want it” press release they put out to change the suspension from being about possibly deflating footballs to now being about Brady not cooperating.

    Brady never referred to McNally as the deflator. They never texted, never communicated over the phone. Brady thought his name was Bird because that was McNally’s nickname, he didn’t even know McNally’s real name. Brady only communicated with Jastremski, they shared text messages and phone calls. And Jastremski texted with McNally. McNally referred to himself as the deflator in a text sent in May of 2015 (which is the off season if you didn’t know).

    But congratulations to the NFL, they did get someone to believe their bull.

  206. jag1959 says: Feb 3, 2016 9:37 AM

    stuartscottslefteye says:
    Feb 2, 2016 8:59 PM
    I would have tended to think nothing of Deflate-gate until it was discovered that the ball boy, whom Tom referred to as the “Deflator” (because he was on a diet) took the balls into the restroom. And not to mention TB destroying his cell phone the first day of the investigation.
    ______________________

    Except, of course, for some nagging details: The term deflator was used by McNally referring to himself once in a text between the 2 equipment guys during the offseason and there are no texts between he and Brady. One fat guy alone in a pitched floor bathroom without so much as a bench was able to get 12 balls out of the bag, check and adjust them as needed and get them back in the bag and out the door in a minute and a half but several officials were only able to do the same to 15 balls during an entire halftime break with an entire locker room at their disposal. Brady was told to keep the phone it wasn’t needed and no player, including Favre who was involved in a sexting scandal, has ever been required to turn his phone over. They already had the records, the phone didn’t matter until Brady told them he destroyed it then it was headline fodder.

    But other than that yeah, very accurate assessment

  207. magnoliasimms says: Feb 3, 2016 9:38 AM

    footballfanatic says:
    Feb 3, 2016 7:43 AM

    Pure ignorance……..thats the only way patriots fans can think there was no cheating. Not ONE football came in below 12.5, not in warm games, not in cold game.
    ___________________________________

    Wow, you know the numbers without the NFL releasing the numbers?

    The NFL said there were no violations. What does that mean? That the balls fell within the expected range, now the the NFL knows about the ideal gas law? Or that no ball dropped below 12.5, despite physics saying that is impossible?

    So either every football broke the laws of physics, or the NFL is purposely keeping the actually readings and test procedures out of the media because it will make them look foolish for everything that happened last year.

    My guess is it’s the latter.

  208. footballfanatic says: Feb 3, 2016 9:46 AM

    magnoliasimms says:
    Feb 3, 2016 9:38 AM

    What physics? NO ONE said either way that the ideal gas law could or could not drop PSI a certain amount. NONE WHATSOEVER. No one can use that as an argument for or against the pats. PERIOD. Now what do u mean “what does that mean”???? No violations. The rules state balls have to be between 12.5-13.5, so by “no violations” that means all balls spot checked were between 12.5-13.5. If thats what ur grasping to understand then u need to go play in a sandbox or something. I want to know how many checked started at 13.5- that would be interesting. But either way, even if ALL balls ‘spot checked’ started at 13.5, none dropped more than 1psi, and multiple pats balls dropped more than 1 psi in the AFCCG, one was 2psi low. So regardless, the pats balls acted differently than every other teams balls in 2015. Any other questions?

  209. gisellichek says: Feb 3, 2016 9:48 AM

    Does anybody honestly think the NFL is going to shoot itself in the foot by publishing anything that doesn’t support punishing the Patriots.

    This is/was a total screw job deliberately purported by the League as payback to several owners for Spygate! (that’s all)

    Can we move on now… Goodell/NFL/Owners are gonna get another slap in the face by the courts very soon.

    This story is over!

  210. orrnumberfour says: Feb 3, 2016 9:53 AM

    The fact that the NFL won’t release the psi measurements of their so-called “spot checks” should tell you everything you need to know.

    Roger, do the right thing:
    1.) Admit you were wrong;
    2.) Drop the doomed-to-fail appeal;
    3.) Apologize to the New England Patriots and Tom Brady in particular;
    4.) Give the $1 Million fine back;
    5.) Give the draft picks back that you wrongfully stole from New England; and
    6.) Reveal the names of the small group of jealous, underhanded team owners who gave you the order to conduct this witch hunt against the Patriots in order than their criminal conduct may be exposed.

  211. DennisT says: Feb 3, 2016 9:56 AM

    The bottom line is the NFL accused but clearly never proved that this happened, and the data would go a long way towards helping all of us understand this situation

    Goodell blowing this off is an insult to football fans everywhere regardless of what one thinks about this situation

  212. orrnumberfour says: Feb 3, 2016 10:08 AM

    Based on Roger’s obsession with “the integrity of the game” I’m sure the NFL’s investigation into HGH being delivered to P. Manning’s house is surely “independent”.

    Did I just make you all laugh?

  213. magnoliasimms says: Feb 3, 2016 10:11 AM

    footballfanatic says:
    Feb 3, 2016 9:46 AM

    magnoliasimms says:
    Feb 3, 2016 9:38 AM

    What physics? NO ONE said either way that the ideal gas law could or could not drop PSI a certain amount. NONE WHATSOEVER. No one can use that as an argument for or against the pats. PERIOD. Now what do u mean “what does that mean”???? No violations. The rules state balls have to be between 12.5-13.5, so by “no violations” that means all balls spot checked were between 12.5-13.5. If thats what ur grasping to understand then u need to go play in a sandbox or something. I want to know how many checked started at 13.5- that would be interesting. But either way, even if ALL balls ‘spot checked’ started at 13.5, none dropped more than 1psi, and multiple pats balls dropped more than 1 psi in the AFCCG, one was 2psi low. So regardless, the pats balls acted differently than every other teams balls in 2015. Any other questions?
    __________________________________

    Well, if none of the balls dropped below 12.5 PSI, why didn’t the NFL just say that? Why leave it with such cryptic language of “No violations”? The only reason to leave the language vague like that is to make it sound like they’re trying to make an official statement without any proof behind it. So does no violations mean that every football was between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI for every test, or does that mean they acted like expected, now that the NFL knows about the ideal gas law (since they didn’t know about it before), and how temperature can affect pressure?

    Without releasing any collection information (starting numbers, where the balls were tested, when they were tested, what the final readings were), this statement is meaningless. It’s the NFL controlling the narrative, like they have for this entire saga. It’s the NFL just protecting their own reputation.

    Because you can be sure if these spot checks proved that the Patriots did cheat, they would have released the numbers, because that could only bolster the NFL’s appeal case with Brady. But my guess is that since they’re not releasing that information, it doesn’t help them, or it could in fact hurt their case even further.

    The NFL came out with some rules at the start of the season about how the spot checking was going to be done, and how the data was going to be recorded. Did they not do that? Or did the numbers not come out the way they wanted? Neither of those scenarios makes the NFL look good, so it’s better to just keep the information to themselves, and release a vague statement as if they actually cared about getting to the truth.

  214. footballfanatic says: Feb 3, 2016 10:13 AM

    gisellichek says:
    Feb 3, 2016 9:48 AM

    You know what the worst thing the NFL can do is? Blatantly lie. If he is blatantly lying about this then he loses 100% credibility……..he aint lying. Goodell is HELPING the pats. This is the second time they’ve essentially been caught in a DUI and goodell (the officer) has said “listen, i cant just let u go scott free, so im going to write u a ticket for a busted tail light”. A fine is NOTHING to a billionaire, its like charging u or I $5. So there was no screw job, pats got caught red handed again and Goodell dumbed down the punishment as much as humanly possible for his pal Kraft.

  215. footballfanatic says: Feb 3, 2016 10:18 AM

    #1 BEST case scenario for Pats fans- all spot checked involved balls that started at 13.5 psi and all dropped to 12.5 (1 full psi). #2 in the AFCCG multiple pats balls dropped MORE than 1psi, one was a full 2 PSI low (for the boston folks- thats DOUBLE any amt a 2015 ball could have dropped). #3 in the AFCCG all pats balls started at 12.5, one was 12.3, one was 10.5 and the rest in the middle. Now if all balls start the same- and PSI drop was due to weather (which all were affected by equally) then how do you explain the 1.8 psi variation in their balls? Shouldn’t all balls drop about the same amt? (give or take maybe .4 psi lets say). Unless ur argument is that a few balls were filled with 100 degree air and the rest at room temperature lol. The variation in the pats game balls in the AFCCG is more than the overall biggest drop in psi by any teams balls in 2015……..LOL.

  216. barneyfifeactionfigure says: Feb 3, 2016 10:20 AM

    It is physically impossible (this is not an exaggeration) that all of the balls used during every NFL game stayed above 12.5 psi.

    At this point, I think Poe’s law is rearing its head. I can’t tell if you are trolling or not.

    ___________________________________

    …But either way, even if ALL balls ‘spot checked’ started at 13.5, none dropped more than 1psi, and multiple pats balls dropped more than 1 psi in the AFCCG, one was 2psi low. So regardless, the pats balls acted differently than every other teams balls in 2015. Any other questions?

  217. swineflooo says: Feb 3, 2016 10:27 AM

    Whats funny is that he thinks peopke are dumb enough not to realize that balls would have measured below in colder and wet games.

    What he is saying is that then the colts would have been in violation as well.

  218. mathprof84 says: Feb 3, 2016 10:30 AM

    Pure ignorance……..thats the only way patriots fans can think there was no cheating. Not ONE football came in below 12.5, not in warm games, not in cold game.
    ===========
    That is physically impossible, assuming that the balls were measured in timely fashion at halftime. (Not a given). This is not theory. This is not arguable. It is fact, and can be proven by any school kid wit a ball and gauge. If you care, I mean really care about the truth, you can do it for yourself.

  219. swineflooo says: Feb 3, 2016 10:33 AM

    magnoliasimms says:
    Feb 3, 2016 9:38 AM
    footballfanatic says:
    Feb 3, 2016 7:43 AM

    Pure ignorance……..thats the only way patriots fans can think there was no cheating. Not ONE football came in below 12.5, not in warm games, not in cold game.

    ——————

    That is impossible, and if indeed that were the case, then the colts need to lose draft picks as well as the afccg last year, 3 of their 4 tested balls came in under 11.5

  220. gacoltfan says: Feb 3, 2016 10:43 AM

    It’s not that hard to read between the lines. No balls checked during this season dropped like the Patriots balls did during the AFCCG.

  221. greggallmansliver says: Feb 3, 2016 11:00 AM

    tb12bestqbevah says:
    Feb 2, 2016 6:42 PM
    For the life of me I can’t understand how Bob Kraft can sit in the same room with this agenda driven fraud. How can he look him in the eye and shake his hand?

    I just don’t get it.

    ____________________________________

    Because Goodell has made billionaires out of millionaires. It’s that simple. The interests of the 32 owners will always prevail.

    p.s. for those of you ok with Goodell, make sure you go see “Concussion” and see him for what he is. A bold faced liar, a man with NO integrity and flat out does not care about the men playing the game.

  222. fireroger says: Feb 3, 2016 11:33 AM

    Since the NFL apparently (now) knows about natural ball deflation they decide to swap the balls out in the Sea-Min game last month. The real question is why wasn’t that done in the AFCCG to begin with? I think the NFL really needs to decide if ball deflation is really a big deal or not and handle it consistently. Not that consistent and NFL belong in the same sentence.

  223. mhsrpl58 says: Feb 3, 2016 11:34 AM

    The only relevant issue now is, what has roger goodell done to support his case in court? Court is the only way that his punishment against Brady would be upheld or modified. Any other topics or opinions are unnecessary and dont matter so dont waste your time reading it. If you have a federal court case, you must do everything in your power to prove your side. In Bradys case, all he has to do is ensure no evidence comes out against you. His side of things are easy and less extensive than the accuser’s presentation (Goodell). The reason why he cant and will not win his appeal is because he simply did not do everything in his power to collect evidence (stats about the PSI of footballs) because he only collected a small sample size. If you do not collect every PSI of every ball used for every game than you open your “evidence” up for variables. Variables do not ensure that your case is concise or even legible in the court of law. He screwed nobody but himself by not being as diligent as possible with his occupational evidence. That unfortunately will be the leading factor as to why he will fail in his appeal.

  224. mmack66 says: Feb 3, 2016 12:05 PM

    barneyfifeactionfigure says:
    Feb 3, 2016 10:20 AM

    …But either way, even if ALL balls ‘spot checked’ started at 13.5, none dropped more than 1psi, and multiple pats balls dropped more than 1 psi in the AFCCG, one was 2psi low. So regardless, the pats balls acted differently than every other teams balls in 2015. Any other questions?
    ———————–

    First of all, you are assuming facts that absolutely aren’t in evidence with regards to any football pressures.

    Secondly, none of the footballs used by the Patriots in the 2015 AFCCG were 2psi low.

    Thirdly, there is no way that the footballs used in that Minnesota/Seattle game registered between 12.5-13.5psi at halftime, if they were just sitting out in the cold.

  225. Mo Pro Babble says: Feb 3, 2016 12:06 PM

    This only proves what Pats have been saying all along.
    It was a lie. The Pats, Ravens and Colts have all made the playoffs nearly every year since Brady was been QB. Loving that the Ravens & Colts sucked this year yet the Pats still made the playoffs with 1/2 a team.

  226. bbfe says: Feb 3, 2016 12:51 PM

    Roger, I hate to say it, but this is going to be the downfall of the league. I understand that you are making money hand over fist. But all this has done is make me question the integrity of the league. I didn’t watch this year like I normally do. I didn’t really watch many other games. I was sort of hanging out waiting for this day. The day where you reported on what you found a year later.

    You obviously feel that this way has less impact. You must feel that this will sweep it all away, but it magnifies it. It isn’t about truth any more. It isn’t about integrity of the NFL. It is about winning. Releasing these numbers would have probably destroyed you in court, and the court of public opinion. So another bag job. How can you think I would now watch a game and think it to be an impartial competition? It isn’t, and I get that now. Thanks for freeing up more of my time.

  227. fanofpft says: Feb 3, 2016 6:34 PM

    Did they use the gauge with the long bent needle or the one with the short bent needle?

    They let McNally loose with one in a locked “bathroom” for a minute and a half.

  228. db105 says: Feb 3, 2016 7:20 PM

    The NFL keeps insulting their fans intelligence. Eventually fans will be turned off.

  229. keifer1751 says: Feb 3, 2016 7:24 PM

    Nice work, Commissioner. You are really earning your millions. Please resign. Thank you.

  230. greenlargo says: Feb 3, 2016 8:24 PM

    Come on guys. You are still trying too hard to grab smoke. One of the details that came out after the NFL had to release the real info they had (and not just give a made up narrative) was that the text message the NFL was waving all over turned out to actually be from back before McNally worked for the Patriots. I agree with everyone that thinks the ‘weight loss’ explanation sounds ridiculous. Personally I don’t buy it. But whatever it really was about it is for sure nothing to do with game balls if it was from back before he worked for the team.

    Note also that the text conversation the NFL was trumpeting never actually took place. They took messages from all different times in the logs of both McNally and the other guy he was talking to (not Brady) and cobbled them together to manufacture a conversation. Look at their wording, they said those were “texts they retrieved” but never “a conversation they retrieved”. They were wordsmithing very carefully to mislead you while not technically lying. (Leaving the door open to be able to point out they only called them texts and not a conversation in case they got caught) and the one they hooted about the most, the single time the guy used the word deflator was from a time in his log that was before he worked for the team. (I think it was the previous May, I may have the month wrong but it was thereabouts)

  231. greenlargo says: Feb 3, 2016 9:10 PM

    A more recent case of wordsmithing to mislead you without actually lying was Goodell’s careful crafted ‘found no violations’ statement. He was careful to not say ‘found no drops in pressure’. We actually know for a fact there were drops in pressure several times because it got reported. And of course there was the extreme case of the SeHwaks/Vikings game where the pressure dropped so far they had to pull and replace the balls. So what he is saying is that the tests showed that the ideal gas law holds true and in fact held true for the games they checked this year. Therefore the drops in pressure were not violations. To not call them violations means that regardless of whether the NFL wants to admit the real reason for the balls losing pressure, they have quietly accepted it. What Roger did here was only say that one tiny bit and hope people thought that meant there were no air pressure drops except for the AFC game. That’s also why he is trying to just go with that carefully crafted statement and does not want the actual numbers to be released. He can’t talk around the numbers if people actually see them.

  232. tylawspick6 says: Feb 3, 2016 9:34 PM

    ^Greenlargo Nailed it. If the had real evidence, which would have been easy to produce, like seeing if McNally went into the bathroom before the Ravens game as well, they’d have their answer for a scheme.

    Way too convenient this whole thing came AFTER Brady himself told Harbaugh to check the rule book.

    WAY TOO CONVENIENT, as are many other obvious tells this was an attempted framejob.

  233. tylawspick6 says: Feb 3, 2016 10:09 PM

    Here is the NFL’s position on an objective study back in August:

    “At designated games, selected at random, the game balls used in the first half will be collected by the [kicking ball coordinator] at halftime, and the League’s Security Representative will escort the KBC with the footballs to the Officials’ Locker room. During halftime, each game ball for both teams will be inspected in the locker room by designated members of the officiating and security crews, and the PSI results will be measured and recorded. Once measured, those game balls will then be secured and removed from play.”

  234. tylawspick6 says: Feb 3, 2016 10:19 PM

    Fire Goodell.

  235. roninscribe says: Feb 4, 2016 1:19 AM

    There are so many clueless dipsticks on this thread it’s making my head hurt. Morons claiming the Ideal Gas Law has no real-world application because it’s a “hypothesis.” One disembodied off-season text with the word “deflator” is somehow regarded as proof of an organized scheme. Brady ditching his phone, when each and every number he sent texts to and received texts from was compiled by his cell carrier in spreadsheet form and submitted to the NFL, is somehow the act of a “guilty” man.

    You fools really need to wake up. Goodell is conning you and destroying the league in the process. (“Concussion,” anyone?)

    And peace to Kenny Stabler. Maybe these jerks will finally vote him into the Hall now that he’s dead.

  236. greenlargo says: Feb 4, 2016 5:35 AM

    barneyfifeactionfigure says:
    Feb 3, 2016 10:20 AM

    …But either way, even if ALL balls ‘spot checked’ started at 13.5, none dropped more than 1psi, and multiple pats balls dropped more than 1 psi in the AFCCG, one was 2psi low. So regardless, the pats balls acted differently than every other teams balls in 2015. Any other questions?

    —————————————————————————-

    Yes, why are you still running with the info from the Mortenson report? It’s since been proven all wrong and even got retracted. (And even if ESPN apologized for it at 2am they did still apologize)

  237. zigthepatsfan says: Feb 4, 2016 6:55 AM

    greenlargo says:
    Feb 3, 2016 8:24 PM
    Come on guys. You are still trying too hard to grab smoke. One of the details that came out after the NFL had to release the real info they had (and not just give a made up narrative) was that the text message the NFL was waving all over turned out to actually be from back before McNally worked for the Patriots.
    ————–
    McNally has worked for the Pats for 10-11 years

  238. fireroger says: Feb 4, 2016 8:20 AM

    footballfanatic says:
    Feb 3, 2016 10:18 AM
    #1 BEST case scenario for Pats fans- all spot checked involved balls that started at 13.5 psi and all dropped to 12.5 (1 full psi). #2 in the AFCCG multiple pats balls dropped MORE than 1psi, one was a full 2 PSI low (for the boston folks- thats DOUBLE any amt a 2015 ball could have dropped). #3 in the AFCCG all pats balls started at 12.5, one was 12.3, one was 10.5 and the rest in the middle. Now if all balls start the same- and PSI drop was due to weather (which all were affected by equally) then how do you explain the 1.8 psi variation in their balls? Shouldn’t all balls drop about the same amt? (give or take maybe .4 psi lets say).
    ================
    All of this has been answered a hundred times now. Any search engine … “How I Trashed the Wells Report from a Swan Boat”. It’s one of many that answers everything you just put out there.

  239. fireroger says: Feb 4, 2016 9:56 AM

    footballfanatic says:
    Feb 3, 2016 10:13 AM

    Goodell is HELPING the pats. This is the second time they’ve essentially been caught in a DUI and goodell (the officer) has said “listen, i cant just let u go scott free, so im going to write u a ticket for a busted tail light”. A fine is NOTHING to a billionaire, its like charging u or I $5. So there was no screw job, pats got caught red handed again and Goodell dumbed down the punishment as much as humanly possible for his pal Kraft.
    ================
    Pats fans should be thankful to Goodell. LOL Thanks Roger for levying unprecedented punishment for fringe infractions (at best) not once but twice. The second of which was with cobbled together evidence that didn’t stand up in court and won’t again on appeal. Pats fans should be so lucky to have Roger heading up this sham of a league office. Imagine the punishment that would have been handed down if they violated the salary cap or pumped in crowd noise. You can bet it would be harsher than the slap on the wrist than the precedent already set for those nothing acts of cheating. I would suggest dispensing the ridiculous notion that Goodell is doing the Pats any favors. There is absolutely nothing that even comes close to showing that’s the case.

  240. tylawspick6 says: Feb 4, 2016 10:57 AM

    I am still laughing at those hitching their wagons so closely to the liar Goodell. Why would anyone with a brain and a college degree at this point, either believe or trust Goodell?

    I get that you’re supremely jealous of the Pats sustained success, but get over it already. Your mental state is being affected severely by it.

    This is like a sociological study. I have never seen anything like it.

    I hate the Yankees because of their successes in the past and the fact they wave a checkbook in everyone’s faces, but I don’t think they cheat because they’d been successful. I also don’t let it run my life. I realized my team, the Red Sox, needed to be held accountable for the quality of the product they put on the field. I didn’t go running to whine about the Yankees and how they are successful, even if I didn’t like it.

    Jealousy is so embedded and so high, that Goodell uses that to his advantage to lie and dupe the jealous ones because he knows he can.

    Dear Morons: You’ve been HAD. Taken for a ride.

    Or, maybe he just went too far this time and got caught for the final time?

    Why can’t some people see this yet?

    Lastly, always wanted to know why fans of other teams thought it would be ok for their team to film my teams’ hand signals for example from the dawn of that process through the 2005 season.

    It’s why he destroyed BB’s tapes….It showed other teams’ video coordinators filming my teams’ hand signals. Rozelle and Tagliabue had no issues with teams doing that for over 40 years, but Goodell did. Nothing more, nothing less. It was the FIRST order of business he did on 9.6.06. He changed the wording to include “on the sidelines” in the gameday manual, but NFL teams never voted on anything for a rule change into the Constitution and ByLaws.

    This is what Goodell does. He’s Draconian psychopath.

    Our country is becoming dumber by the day.

    Painful.

  241. dreadpirate88 says: Feb 4, 2016 12:15 PM

    barneyfifeactionfigure says:
    Feb 3, 2016 10:20 AM

    …But either way, even if ALL balls ‘spot checked’ started at 13.5, none dropped more than 1psi, and multiple pats balls dropped more than 1 psi in the AFCCG, one was 2psi low. So regardless, the pats balls acted differently than every other teams balls in 2015. Any other questions?
    ———————

    Yes, I have a question. Why are you still believing the original, since retracted, Mortenson report? No Pats balls were 2 PSI low at any point. None of them were even 1 PSI low if you believe Walt Anderson’s recollection of which gauge he used. Please try to keep up.

  242. Mo Pro Babble says: Feb 4, 2016 12:26 PM

    gacoltfan says:
    Feb 3, 2016 10:43 AM
    It’s not that hard to read between the lines. No balls checked during this season dropped like the Patriots balls did during the AFCCG.

    You mean after the Colts stuck a needle in one, deflated it then screamed bloody murder? Is that the game you’re talking about? The one where D’Qwell told his coach the ball was soft? Oh, wait, that never happened!

    It’s astounding how many lies one will believe when jealousy rules ones life.

  243. jess2248 says: Feb 5, 2016 5:05 AM

    Weak minded individuals lack common sense. This whole thing was a set up. And please spare me the “why did he destroy his phone” crap. I wouldn’t have let them check my phone either, because it’s my personal property, and whatever is on it isn’t any of your damn business. Hell, if Brady was sending emails to some guy to deflate the balls, why didn’t it show up on that guys phone? Was he reading his mind?

  244. joenash72 says: Feb 6, 2016 6:39 PM

    Brady was texting, not emailing, the ball boys to arrange the illegal deflation of the game balls in the restroom.

    Charge Tom with conspiracy and tampering with evidence in a criminal investigation.

    Send Tom Brady to prison for 20 to life.

    Vacate the 2015 Superbowl title. Award it to the true Champions, the Seattle Seahawks😉

  245. routerunner says: Feb 9, 2016 8:12 AM

    Were there any violations found in the spot checks for PEDs? Yes, they’re called the Denver Broncos. Strip the title.

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