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NFLPA: If PSI information is important to us, we’ll demand it

NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith speaks during a news conference Thursday, Feb. 4, 2016, in San Francisco. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip) AP

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said this week that “spot checks” of PSI in footballs used during games in the 2015 season turned up no violations, but was careful to say that it was not a research study done for further examination on the effects of temperature on the air pressure of footballs.

A research study might work to shed more light on the league’s claims that the Patriots intentionally deflated footballs in last year’s AFC championship game and in turn could have some impact on the forthcoming appeal of the decision to overturn the four-game suspension that the league gave Tom Brady after the release of the Wells Report. At a press conference Thursday, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith was asked if the union would pursue the release of the data from the NFL’s random checks as part of their effort to uphold the decision vacating the suspension.

“I think the issue for the union is to continue to defend the player and prepare for the Second Circuit hearing,” Smith said. “Issues of PSI and how they collected it and what kind of job they’ve done is up to them. If the information is important at some point, we’ll demand it but the process that we’re in right now is fighting and vindicating the collective bargaining agreement.”

Earlier in the press conference, Smith pointed out that Judge Richard Berman wondered whether Goodell knew there was a CBA during the Brady case and stressed that protecting player rights under that agreement is of primary importance to the union. The two sides are scheduled to be in appeals court in March for a hearing in the case.

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31 Responses to “NFLPA: If PSI information is important to us, we’ll demand it”
  1. abninf says: Feb 4, 2016 8:55 PM

    Couldn’t care less what some union “demands”.

  2. youknowiknowitall says: Feb 4, 2016 9:02 PM

    Couldn’t care less what some union “demands”.
    ———
    Of course you don’t, you’re just loser type that NFL HQ lies to … and you like it.

  3. factman66 says: Feb 4, 2016 9:05 PM

    Unions only protect unethical and criminal employees.
    What about the union members on the team who was cheated against? They are the real victims. Plus, what’s bad for the game of football is bad for the NFLPA, why are you preventing the league from trying to eliminate cheating? The NFLPA needs to realize the implications of their actions, do they want the NFL to implode? This fan promises to stop watching if cheating continues to go unpunished by the same people.
    The NFLPA needs to look at the big picture

  4. youknowiknowitall says: Feb 4, 2016 9:22 PM

    Nobody cheats more than NFL HQ so … goodbye fictionman.

  5. jchipwood says: Feb 4, 2016 10:24 PM

    It’s terrible the patriots make so much more work for honest people. If Goodell would of did his job in 2007 and kicked Belicheat out of the league there wouldn’t have to be so many rules and other cheating scandals…with more to come. But being bffs with Kraft has its advantages I guess….right Judge Berman?

  6. daytontriangles says: Feb 5, 2016 1:20 AM

    factman66 says:
    Feb 4, 2016 9:05 PM

    What about the union members on the team who was cheated against? They are the real victims.
    _______________________________

    Good point. The Union never stopped to think about how their union members on the Patriots were impacted when the Colt’s equipment manager let air out of the intercepted Patriots ball and set this entire sham in motion.

  7. patsfiend says: Feb 5, 2016 2:26 AM

    You guys are so sad. The season (for the Pats) is over and job number one for you is to troll their articles.

    Reigning Champions and 4 time Lombardi winners. Deal with it.

  8. harrisonhits2 says: Feb 5, 2016 2:39 AM

    The liars and whiners that hate the Pats are already embarrassing themselves in these comments

  9. realpatsfan says: Feb 5, 2016 4:21 AM

    Does anyone think we will see the real test results?
    Roger will lie and manipulate the findings to protect the SHIELD and that is that.
    This guy needs to GO.

  10. db105 says: Feb 5, 2016 4:54 AM

    Chances are the PSI information will be inaccurate and altered to make the case stronger for the NFL. If the information is accurate then the NFL checked PSIs at games in which the temperature was close to room temperature. The NFL is disgraceful and corrupt. As a fan I’m embarrassed by how they’ve insulted our intelligence. Won’t be long before many of us tune out the NFL.

  11. tomtravis76 says: Feb 5, 2016 6:17 AM

    During each game broadcast the sideline reporter should take live measurements of replica game balls during the pre game, at halftime and during the post game wrap up. If the league will not make official PSI data available ,the networks should see that all fans want to know this information.

    The fans should know that the league will only operate each game using proper equipment. Otherwise the league office is actually cheating the integrity of the game and cheating the fans of an authentic experience by not caring about playing the game with equipment they have said set guidelines for to use.

  12. infectorman says: Feb 5, 2016 7:56 AM

    The anti NE delusional crybabies are out in full force today.

    Here is a virtual tissue. Dry your eyes and wipe your noses

  13. orrnumberfour says: Feb 5, 2016 8:02 AM

    The Second Circuit is going to slap Goodell down………HARD.

    Can’t wait.

  14. footballfanatic says: Feb 5, 2016 8:10 AM

    The union has one thing in mind- get players off. They are defense attorneys, they would not do ANYTHING to hurt the players. If tom said he was guilty, the Union would still try and get him off the hook- so asking the union is like asking tommy’s dad what he thinks. Its just dumb. And Id like to know what the PSI’s were of the spot checks before the game and after. If none came back under 12.5 overall, then the biggest possible drop is 1 psi. Which still doesnt justify the patriots having a ball 2 psi low. Either way, temp doesnt drop psi 2 full psi, period. We saw the 3rd coldest game in the history of the nfl, if temperature deflates balls at the rate Pats fans say it does, then by halftime the balls in Minnesota would have been about 4psi low………and everyone would be able to visibly see how deflated they were at that point.

  15. footballfanatic says: Feb 5, 2016 8:12 AM

    Lets keep in mind- its not just about overall deflation. All of the colts balls measured within .4 psi of eachother, one may have been used a little more, or left in a bag a little longer so there was a slight variance. The Patriots balls measured between 10.5-12.3 psi………. thats a 1.8 variance……..if weather deflated the balls, they would all be in the same general PSI area since they all started at exactly 12.5.

  16. Modern Day Einstein says: Feb 5, 2016 8:31 AM

    They should simply because of the lost draft picks, thats 2 jobs man, both incredibly high paying that need to be protected.

  17. footballfanatic says: Feb 5, 2016 8:38 AM

    The fact that the Union hasnt demanded it only makes Brady look more guilty. The unions job is to help brady, they are a defense team basically, so if they dont want the info- its b/c it hurts their client. If the Union is confident weather is the reason for deflation, they’d absolutely ‘demand’ a psi check during that Minnesota game (3rd coldest playoff game ever)- it would have been a perfect time to show that cold air can deflate a ball 2 full psi.

  18. gregreynolds91 says: Feb 5, 2016 8:47 AM

    Roger Goodell just need to finally accept defeat. We all know he lied, used espn to lie, and they got caught. I do not respect him oe espn anymore because of their lies, and slander just to damage a person reputation.

  19. rootpain says: Feb 5, 2016 8:50 AM

    Sad story here that the only, the only football news that Chip wood, factman and the like can get interested in is to discredit the Patriots with lies and deceit. Obviously nothing of interest happening on their teams. And it must be a little humbling that that is all you have going on in your life ie following every story published about a team that you hate. Sad life going on there.

  20. rootpain says: Feb 5, 2016 9:02 AM

    This is a little confusing. Of course the information is necessary. Because a change in the way the rule describing football inflation is necessary. The NFL already admitted it knew nothing about the impact of weather on football inflation. It has since acknowledged it knows better. Now it needs to adjust the wording accordingly to accommodate changes in football pressure resulting from playing field weather extremes. If the change is not made, Goodell may unilaterally decide that should the temperature drop during a game resulting in the football pressure falling below the specified limit, as soon as the ball is snapped the quarterback can be slapped with a suspension for generally knowing he was playing with an illegal ball.
    So of course the data is important. Get it now.

  21. psousa1 says: Feb 5, 2016 9:09 AM

    @footballfanatic – The NFL stated before the Seattle – Minnesota game they kept a second set of footballs, indoors, to be used for the second half.

    Not rumor but fact. The NFL announced it.

    What does that tell you?

  22. factman66 says: Feb 5, 2016 9:16 AM

    I’m sure the Larry Fitzgeralds and Heath Millers of the league are thrilled about their union dues paying for the legal fees the NFLPA accrued through defending cheaters, drug addicts, wife beaters, and child abusers.

  23. tylawspick6 says: Feb 5, 2016 9:31 AM

    I love how people’s hate and jealousy of the Pats blinds these fans from basic concepts like ethics and principle.

    If this was your team, you’d be appalled at the cheating by the owners and Goodell, colluding together to find ways to weaken your team.

    It’s disgusting. I know why they do it, but what Goodell tells you is a lie.

    SPygate is a lie as well. Belichick mocking Mangini, stemming from a 2006 season incident in Foxborough, is not cheating. There have been tiffs between franchises and former friends/mentors/proteges before and there will be again.

    ONce learning the real truth about Spygate, I then knew WHY Goodell tried to lie to the public. It’s sick.

    The hypocrisy of jealous fans and Goodell is mortifying as an American.

  24. dsigrey says: Feb 5, 2016 9:32 AM

    footballfanatic says:
    Feb 5, 2016 8:12 AM
    Lets keep in mind- its not just about overall deflation. All of the colts balls measured within .4 psi of eachother, one may have been used a little more, or left in a bag a little longer so there was a slight variance. The Patriots balls measured between 10.5-12.3 psi………. thats a 1.8 variance……..if weather deflated the balls, they would all be in the same general PSI area since they all started at exactly 12.5.
    ______________________________

    It’s called time of possession, the Pats balls were in play a lot longer that the Colts ball therefor exposed to the elements more. Lets not get stupid here.

  25. harrisonhits2 says: Feb 5, 2016 10:13 AM

    “All of the colts balls measured within .4 psi of eachother, one may have been used a little more, or left in a bag a little longer so there was a slight variance.”

    Another Pats hater lie.

    No, “all” of the Colts balls did not measure within .4 psi of each other.

    They stopped measuring the psi of the Colts ball when 3 of the first 4 they measured were also under 12.5 psi in a blatant attempt to hide the fact that the ideal gas law is, you know, an actual real thing.

    Furthermore, they discarded the readings of the Colts balls that were under with the gauge that they used to claim the Pats balls were under, and then reinserted readings from the gauge that read the psi’s higher than the other one just for the Colts.

    ie; the gauge that showed both teams had most or all balls under 12.5 psi was only a good reading when it was the Pats balls. When it was the Colts the gauge was obviously wrong and they stopped measuring to protect the Colts and bolster the case against the Pats.

    That’s called a blatant lie by the way. Also a double standard.

  26. ztigr says: Feb 5, 2016 10:59 AM

    footballfanatic

    Science isn’t pick and choose, you can’t just pick the figures that back up your point and ignore the rest. The point is that the IDEAL GAS LAW shows the Patriots balls fell within expected ranges…

  27. jolink653 says: Feb 5, 2016 11:54 AM

    Amazing how jchipwood and factman post on literally every single article about the Patriots or has anything to do with the Patriots talking about how much they hate them. I think we have two closet fans who can’t admit they like the Patriots. Just embrace it. You’ll feel a lot better

  28. cb3313 says: Feb 5, 2016 11:58 AM

    jchipwood says:
    Feb 4, 2016 10:24 PM

    It’s terrible the patriots make so much more work for honest people. If Goodell would of did his job in 2007 and kicked Belicheat out of the league there wouldn’t have to be so many rules and other cheating scandals…with more to come. But being bffs with Kraft has its advantages I guess….right Judge Berman?
    _______________________________________
    Typical Troll statement. A lot of mis-information and un-proven accusations. Zero Credibility! Crybaby Soup from the Loser’s Circle…

    Patriots, TB12 and Patriot Fans WIN AGAIN!

    Kiss The RingS!

  29. cb3313 says: Feb 5, 2016 12:34 PM

    rootpain says:
    Feb 5, 2016 9:02 AM
    This is a little confusing. Of course the information is necessary. Because a change in the way the rule describing football inflation is necessary. The NFL already admitted it knew nothing about the impact of weather on football inflation. It has since acknowledged it knows better. Now it needs to adjust the wording accordingly to accommodate changes in football pressure resulting from playing field weather extremes. If the change is not made, Goodell may unilaterally decide that should the temperature drop during a game resulting in the football pressure falling below the specified limit, as soon as the ball is snapped the quarterback can be slapped with a suspension for generally knowing he was playing with an illegal ball.
    So of course the data is important. Get it now.
    _______________________________________
    Good point, but the Trolling Haters have their fingers in their ears and are stomping their feet like little babies. If they refuse to hear the facts, then they can pretend the facts don’t exist. And of course, they like to confuse FACTS/PROOF with their opinions and the NFL’s lies. Truly embarrassing how they continue to be duped by Roger and ESPN. But then again, they are just poor little Trolls…

  30. rpahl13 says: Feb 5, 2016 2:38 PM

    Footballfanatic said
    “The Patriots balls measured between 10.5-12.3 psi………. thats a 1.8 variance……..if weather deflated the balls, they would all be in the same general PSI area since they all started at exactly 12.5.”
    ————————-
    What you don’t seem to realize is that the footballs were brought inside, from the cold (~50F) and raining outside, then measured throughout the 12 minute halftime in an environment that was ~70F.
    This means the Pats’ footballs were cold and wet, but continuously warming and drying throughout the measurement process. They were not all measured with the same internal temperature, that’s what matters. That’s why there’s so much variance.
    The Colts’ had ~10 minutes to warm and dry.

    Look up ‘figure 21 wells report’ for a graph showing how pressures rise and fall over these circumstances. It adequately explains not only the variance in the Pats’ pressures, but the difference in differences between the Pats’ and the Colts’ footballs.

  31. rpahl13 says: Feb 5, 2016 3:03 PM

    footballfanatic said
    “it would have been a perfect time to show that cold air can deflate a ball 2 full psi.”
    ————————-

    Two things wrong with this.

    1. The cold/weather does not deflate footballs. Deflate specifically refers to gas escaping, but a football’s pressure drops without gas escaping.

    2. No Patriots ball lost 2 psi. You’re thinking of a ball that was measured as 10.5psig, but that was its non-logo gauge measurements, which consistently measures .3-.45psi lower than the logo gauge. That ball’s logo gauge measurement was 10.9psig. Referee Walt Anderson says he used the logo gauge pre-game. This means that ball lost 1.6psig.

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