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Former A&M player says Manziel contributed to a chaotic culture

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As the Browns try to clean up the mess left from their decision to spend a first-round draft pick on Johnny Manziel two years ago, a former Texas A&M player is saying Manziel left a mess behind at Texas A&M as well.

Former A&M quarterback Kyle Allen says he transferred to Houston last month largely because he disliked the culture of the A&M football program — a culture that Allen says goes back to Manziel thinking the rules didn’t apply to him.

“I think the culture was a big part of it, and I think that stems from Johnny’s era there — the way that they let Johnny and [others] act there,” Allen told CBS. “They [could] do that and still win games because they had Johnny . . . and five offensive linemen playing in the NFL right now.”

Allen says there was enough talent at A&M that the Aggies were able to go 11-2 and 9-4 in Manziel’s two seasons as their starting quarterback, but thinking they could win on talent alone and not hard work was bad for the long-term health of the football team.

“A lot of people were riding off that, ‘I can do whatever the hell I want and win on Saturday,'” Allen said.

If Allen’s characterization of Manziel is accurate, it doesn’t speak well for the Browns that they thought Manziel could be the leader of their franchise.

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34 Responses to “Former A&M player says Manziel contributed to a chaotic culture”
  1. joeconnorjr says: Feb 9, 2016 3:10 PM

    If you read the 2013 profile of Manziel in ESPN magazine and the Patriots’ pre-draft scouting report on Manziel, nothing that he has done since then should surprise anyone. It’s positively chilling how this two documents foretold Manziel’s future.

  2. orange and blue owns the NFL says: Feb 9, 2016 3:12 PM

    Didn’t most everyone see this coming?

  3. rajtuli says: Feb 9, 2016 3:16 PM

    Well this explains the mass exodus of players from A&M. Also what does this say about Kevin Sumlin?

  4. onereasonableman says: Feb 9, 2016 3:16 PM

    I’m a Browns fan – can someone tell me one thing that does speak well for the organization?

  5. spasticpickle says: Feb 9, 2016 3:17 PM

    Did any of his college teammates go to his birthday party like that Bo Callahan guy from Draft Day? Amazing that Kevin Costner is a better GM than Ray Farmer.

  6. ravens2014 says: Feb 9, 2016 3:19 PM

    Remember when roger had Kevin sumlin come in as a consultant to help with player behavior/conduct? Funny.

  7. ndnation23 says: Feb 9, 2016 3:24 PM

    the Browns? lol it spells DISASTER for A&M’s football program. Sounds like its time to clean house with the coaching staff there.

  8. paulieorkid says: Feb 9, 2016 3:24 PM

    Not only does it not speak well for the Browns, it does not speak well for the self-anointed “General Manager” of the Dallas Cowboys — who continued to crave, desire and lobby for Manziel after one flameout after another — only to be turned away by the entirety of the rest of Dallas’s staff.

    Only now after Manziel (allegedly) shatters his girlfriend’s ear drum, did Jerrah finally mellow out his man love.

  9. nicofthenorthstar says: Feb 9, 2016 3:28 PM

    Nice to see guys crawling out of the woodwork to pile on and get their five minutes in the spotlight.

  10. The Almighty Cabbage says: Feb 9, 2016 3:32 PM

    onereasonableman says:
    Feb 9, 2016 3:16 PM

    I’m a Browns fan – can someone tell me one thing that does speak well for the organization?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Here’s a couple, from the outside looking in:

    1) They are still the Cleveland BROWNS, even after Modell’s actions. It may not seem like a lot, but it is an old and honorable name. We fans of other old teams respect that… a lot.

    2) The Cleveland fan base (that would be you) are still as rabid as ever. But… you mange to be rabid with some class about yourselves, unlike many other fan bases. That is also widely respected by us older fans.

    The NFL is cyclical. The Browns will be back. Hopefully sooner rather than later. My team is an NFC team, but in the AFC I would really like to see the Browns, the Bills, and the Chiefs get on top for a while, mostly due to their fan bases’ sufferings (with class). They deserve it. You deserve it. I hope that helps a little.

  11. gixrider says: Feb 9, 2016 3:46 PM

    Not only does it not speak well for the Browns, it does not speak well for the self-anointed “General Manager” of the Dallas Cowboys — who continued to crave, desire and lobby for Manziel after one flameout after another — only to be turned away by the entirety of the rest of Dallas’s staff.

    I suppose then that speaks well for the rest of Dallas’ staff.

  12. jvw1982 says: Feb 9, 2016 3:49 PM

    What is this, beat up Manziel day? we get it the Browns wasted a #1 pick on a alcoholic who doesn’t work hard, its not the first time and I am positive it won’t be the last….media loves to pile on….

  13. semcgowanjr says: Feb 9, 2016 3:59 PM

    Allen is just making excuses for his own failures.

  14. jvw1982 says: Feb 9, 2016 4:20 PM

    If you read the 2013 profile of Manziel in ESPN magazine and the Patriots’ pre-draft scouting report on Manziel, nothing that he has done since then should surprise anyone. It’s positively chilling how this two documents foretold Manziel’s future.

    ********************************************************
    The only Pre draft report I want to read from the Patriots is the one on Aaron Hernandez

  15. jpaq68 says: Feb 9, 2016 4:21 PM

    Manziel looks a lot like the kid who plays “Brick” on ABC’s “The Middle”

  16. metalup666 says: Feb 9, 2016 4:25 PM

    The name is Jerry

  17. joeconnorjr says: Feb 9, 2016 4:28 PM

    The only Pre draft report I want to read from the Patriots is the one on Aaron Hernandez

    ——————-

    Yeah, it’s funny how that one never saw the light of day.

  18. granadafan says: Feb 9, 2016 4:38 PM

    nicofthenorthstar says:
    Feb 9, 2016 3:28 PM
    Nice to see guys crawling out of the woodwork to pile on and get their five minutes in the spotlight.

    Well, who better to ask about Manziel than former teammates, especially at a place where he essentially ran the town and school? Around campus he always had a roided up entourage surrounding him to forcefully keep people away from him except hot chicks. When he decided he wanted to go to classes, the other students were forced to move seats so his “bodyguards” could sit.

  19. vikings1234 says: Feb 9, 2016 4:53 PM

    I agree with the Almighty Cabbage. Tough luck franchise with fantastic fans.

  20. Teddy BH20's House of Noodles says: Feb 9, 2016 5:04 PM

    “Doesn’t speak well for PFT being one of the media sources insisting that Manziel should start from day one because he was a first round draft pick.”

    Why? It’s the Browns. They are a disaster at the position. Why wouldn’t anyone think he shouldn’t have started based on his 1st round status alone?

  21. randomguy9999 says: Feb 9, 2016 5:16 PM

    management at a lot of teams continue to acquire guys with serious issues… it’s baffling that they think these trainwrecks are suddenly going to turn over a new leaf and be franchise players

    I would take a bunch of 2nd and 3rd rounders with good backgrounds all day long on the chance that they improve in a professional atmosphere over these idiots

    Belichick has been been doing it for a long time (except for that short experiment with Haynesworth and Ochocinco was it?) and the Pats seem to have above average teams… why have to become a halfway house for felons and locker room cancers all the time?

  22. wonderkt says: Feb 9, 2016 5:42 PM

    orange and blue owns the NFL says:
    Feb 9, 2016 3:12 PM
    Didn’t most everyone see this coming?

    Pretty much. Well, except for the Browns.

  23. operwapitsai says: Feb 9, 2016 5:44 PM

    @joeconnorjr

    Where might I find those reports?? Sounds interesting.

  24. joeconnorjr says: Feb 9, 2016 6:11 PM

    @operwapitsai

    I posted the links, but the moderators deleted my post. I guess links aren’t permitted. Just search for “ESPN Magazine Manziel” and “Patriot Scouting Report Manziel.” That should lead you to them.

  25. somethinghappeninghere says: Feb 9, 2016 7:09 PM

    Doesn’t speak well for the Browns, but it speaks WORSE for the Aggies! Aggies are supposed to be leaders…they have their Corp of Cadets after all. And how does this speak of Kevin Sumlin? If the Aggie program has divas not leaders then why would any NFL team want Sumlin as head coach? Maybe the Aggies should “gig” themselves!

  26. Punk says: Feb 9, 2016 7:28 PM

    The Browns let a homeless guy decide their draft pick for crying out loud!

  27. huggybear2014 says: Feb 9, 2016 11:25 PM

    I used to mention that some of that talent at TAMU, wasn’t Sumerlin talent it was Sherman’s. All those linemen and WRs were already there when Sumerlin showed up.
    Oh well its all a mess. And eventually it all catches up. Well the check is due…will Sumerlin survive another so so year?

  28. thisdamnbox says: Feb 10, 2016 4:02 AM

    jvw1982 says:
    Feb 9, 2016 4:20 PM
    If you read the 2013 profile of Manziel in ESPN magazine and the Patriots’ pre-draft scouting report on Manziel, nothing that he has done since then should surprise anyone. It’s positively chilling how this two documents foretold Manziel’s future.

    ********************************************************
    The only Pre draft report I want to read from the Patriots is the one on Aaron Hernandez

    —————————-

    BOOM!!! “:^>

  29. danm1978 says: Feb 10, 2016 9:39 AM

    joeconnorjr says:
    Feb 9, 2016 3:10 PM
    If you read the 2013 profile of Manziel in ESPN magazine and the Patriots’ pre-draft scouting report on Manziel, nothing that he has done since then should surprise anyone. It’s positively chilling how this two documents foretold Manziel’s future.
    —————————————————————–
    I thought that Patriots Scouting report was a hoax?

  30. trollhammer20 says: Feb 10, 2016 5:36 PM

    I remember the pre-draft hype that pegged Manziel as the next Russell Wilson, because he wasn’t prototype height and made plays with his feet as well as his arm.

    I remembered thinking about Wilson’s intangibles as a leader, looking at the reports of Manziel’s behaviors in college, and thinking “Not even on the same planet.”

    Manziel should cut Wilson a nice check, because without RW going first, he’s probably a third-round pick, too.

  31. jonwill57 says: Feb 11, 2016 11:48 AM

    Irony about Sumlin is he’s paid to win and win big with bowl game appearances. I think he did what he could do as long as they were producing on the field.

  32. ourbonesaredriedup says: Feb 11, 2016 2:31 PM

    The NFL is cyclical, except for the Browns, who defy all notion that the NFL is cyclical. In fact , if the Browns ever hear it’s cyclical, my guess is they’d buy a bicycle by mistake, because yes, the Browns are that dumb. And then they’d buy a new bicycle the following year because they never keep things very long, like head coaches, GM’s etc etc. Manziel’s attitude and character was obvious to all at college, it can’t be that hard to talk to people at the school/fellow players, and the type of person he was. They took a chance on Manziel, could have had several other QB’s. but they didn’t. And to be honest, most coaches, who ignore character, had Manziel as no 1. My suggestion, sack those guys if they are on your payroll, don’t ignore character.

  33. bittersportspills says: Feb 14, 2016 8:15 AM

    Apparently, Allen didn’t want to have to compete for the starter’s job. Kyler Murray didn’t either. Both of them believed Sumlin guaranteed them the starting job during recruitment. Both of them transferred.
    Allen thinking he had been guaranteed to start reeks of the same entitlement Allen says Manziel had while at A&M.

  34. displacedmic says: Feb 14, 2016 9:14 AM

    Wait, the Browns are an NFL team? I thought they were Pop Warner

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