Report: Browns lied about Manziel concussion to cover up his drinking

AP

In a report on the league’s own network, the Browns have been accused of lying about Johnny Manziel having a concussion in an effort to cover up that the real problem with Manziel was showing up to work drunk.

“Johnny Manziel, going into what would have been a start late in the season, showed up drunk at practice on a Wednesday. The Browns lied and said he was in the concussion protocol. Let me repeat that: The Browns lied, to try to protect, and I would argue enable, this irresponsible and very troubled young man,” Mike Silver said on the air on NFL Network.

As PFT pointed out at the time, there’s always been something very fishy about Manziel’s Week 17 concussion diagnosis. On Monday of the last week of the season, then-Browns coach Mike Pettine said he planned to talk to Manziel about a video that appeared to show him drinking alcohol and partying. At that time, there were no reports that Manziel being checked for a concussion. Then, when Manziel showed up to work on Wednesday, it was announced that he had a concussion and couldn’t play in that Sunday’s season finale. It was never explained why the Browns only diagnosed this concussion three days after it supposedly happened, and two days after Pettine said he was going to have a stern talk with Manziel about his off-field issues.

If NFL Network’s report is correct, the NFL should come down hard on the Browns. The league has spent the last few years repeating, over and over again, that concussions are to be taken seriously. If the Browns are using bogus concussion diagnoses to avoid having to discuss players’ off-field problems, that would be an appalling misuse of the league’s injury reports.

So while the Browns are done with Manziel, they may not be done paying the price for hitching their wagon to him. Cleveland could be facing league discipline for lying about a concussion.

160 responses to “Report: Browns lied about Manziel concussion to cover up his drinking

  1. Some things ARE bigger than football. The Browns enabling this type of behavior is very cheesy. Indefensible.

  2. Why does Cleveland keep doing this to themselves? Is there anyone who doesn’t want to see the Browns get competitive, just cause they deserve it for all the crap their fans put up with?

  3. Dock them a first round pick for the next three years.

    Talk about ruining the leagues integrity. This is shameful by the Browns and makes me happy that they are such a pathetic franchise. Sorry to the city of Cleveland, you deserve better.

  4. Wow, so sad to see Manziel throwing his life away at such an early age. How did the Browns drafted this mess? One bad decision after another, so many first round picks yet they still at the bottom of the league with no perspectives on coming out. For some other teams, it just takes one good pick at the draft to be competitive.

  5. What is with the Browns organization? You cover up his drinking for what, he neither has character nor skill to be an NFL qb. Should have taken your poison and cut him then. Pity the city of Cleveland has to put up with this owner and team.

  6. The NFL should take away the Browns 1st round pick ‘that will likley be a QB’ and save the poor young man his football career. I am tired of the Browns BS.

  7. The Browns franchise facing league discipline for lying about Manziel would not be about “hitching their wagon to him”–it would be about a pathetic lack of integrity on the part of the Browns’ front office.

  8. but Manziel apologists said that Mike Pettine was evil and hated Manziel and was the reason he was being held back despite him basically giving Manziel 800 chances to screw up and still trying to start him? Who will they blame now?

  9. Wow if this is true then I feel sorry for Cleveland fans. Your owner is the most despicable form of fecal matter alive. It’s a shame that great fans like the Browns have are subjected to this nonsense year after year. I get aggravated with the Bears owners all the time but this is in a category beyond anything else. Shameful

  10. “appalling misuse of the league’s injury reports”…I don’t know about that, I mean the guy couldn’t play either way because his preparation was lacking and his conditioning was also likely lacking. I don’t think the fans care all that much about procedural protocol of injury reports. I mean, the Colts got off scott-free with hiding Luck’s rib injury. Because its concussions and its Manziel, Goodell will likely throw out precedent and overact and overstep his bounds…again.

  11. Very sad. Sick guy throwing away all these chances. Cut him and let him sort out his life. Unfortunately the Cowboys will enable him too soon and begin the cycle again.

  12. If the Browns were really trying to cover up the substance abuse problem of a troubled player, the Factory of Sadness just became the Factory of Shame.

  13. I have great compassion on Johny M. as a human.

    As a football player he needs to be fired and the Browns need fined.

  14. This is pretty bad. There’s already enough controversy around the whole concussions/CTE stuff for the NFL without teams lying about players having concussions. Especially when there are statistics showing that concussions are on the rise. The NFL is likely going to come down pretty hard on the Browns for it because of the fact that they’ve been defending the rise in concussions diagnosed. Now they have to worry about teams lying about guys having them when they don’t?

  15. If everyone connected with this fiasco hasn’t already lost their jobs, they should. Unfortunately I’m sure they were just taking orders from the owner.

  16. If Johnny arrived at work inebriated, then the whole matter should have been turned over to the personnel director and handled under the substance abuse policy. The problem is that information is relatively public and would have jeopardized his trade value.

    The lie is worse than the crime.

  17. I’d say the Browns deserve to be punished but having Haslam as an owner is punishment enough. That said, take away this year’s 1st round draft pick so they don’t draft Goff and ruin the poor kid’s career.

  18. I doubt this is the first time a team lied to protect their image or a player. Only problem is that Manziel has had multiple transgressions and continues to do so. He’s not mature enough to be an adult in this league. His parents were rich enablers his whole life, so the result are clear. Manziel is who is and he will never change because he doesn’t have to. He’ll always have money. Football was always secondary to him to partying and living the life.

  19. Im tired of this whole ” get him help ” crap. The dude is a multi millionaire in the NFL, you dont think he has access to help already??

    People with addiction have to WANT help. best thing they can do is just cut him and move on, what ever happens to him after that is his problem.

    Just like what Buddy did with chris carter, there is a reason why he says thats the best thing that ever happened to him.

  20. Same team that was cheating with illegal game texts, but nobody will care because it’s the Browns. Yet the Patriots won’t have a first rounder this year because the league office — by its own admission — doesn’t understand 9th grade chemistry. Who will the Browns waste theirs on this year? Somebody awesome I bet.

  21. I would get drunk with him on a Wednesday morning. I would take an earned vacation day in advance of that though . Just plan ahead if you want to act like a clown. Normal people do it all the time.

  22. This is what you get with the Owner/GM teams: Browns & Cowboys…

    The personnel guys would have cut this kid out of training camp and moved on.

  23. Come on people, you gotta come after the Browns with your A game. Us fans have come to expect this, what a quiet off season? We are numb to the team and trolls who continue to pile on. Do something, say something that will actually generate some surprise.

  24. I love how the Browns organization literally can’t win in this (which is why no other team is going to come within 20 feet of this kid).

    If they fine, suspend and bench him for his behavior (all things they’ve done) people call them out for picking on a kid just having fun.

    If they let him play they’re an enabler.

    In this case a kid with a drinking problem relapsed and instead of letting the media have a field day with him (like what’s happening now). They played it off as a concussion so he could handle it without people judging him or the teams handling of him. It was the right move in a tough situation.

  25. Well if Cleveland felt the need to lie about Johnny Manziel in order to enable him then I’m sure the same will be the true in the not-too-distant future when it comes to Hue Jackson and his craziness. Because Jackson is just as much of a headcase and contributor to dysfunction as Manziel.

  26. Side note:
    The GM and Head Coach were both dismissed. Kind of sad that the new regime gets penalized for the alleged violations of the old regime.

  27. You can’t help but feel bad for Browns fans. Haven’t they suffered enough??

    What the Browns need is a few good citizens like Sonny Weaver Jr, Vontae Mack, Brian Drew, and Ray Jennings.

  28. So, was it Pettine, The GM, or ownership?

    Media, including this site, always pushed the angle that Pettine didn’t want to play Manziel and tried to discipline him, but the ownership pushed Manziel on the coaches.

    FWIW, media (including this site) ALSO pushed Manziel- with the idea that the Browns needed to play him to see what they had, regardless of his professionalism and preparation and respect for his team and coaches. You guys knew or at least had an inkling that there were deeper issues with Manziel, and maybe Pettine (and/or Farmer or whoever) was making the correct choice not to play him.

    If that’s (still) the truth, it really seems like Pettine was the fall guy for ownership’s mistakes.

  29. Stop the sensationalism, this is no big deal, teams list potential injuries that may or may not be actually properly diagnosed at that time, at the deadline when the league requires team injuries reports ,all the time. Manziel took quite a few hard hits, and had his head rattled several times in week 16 vs. the Chiefs. So although in the end, Johnny may have actually showed up with a hangover, but when he shows up for practice and tells the team medical staff he is having head issues, whether it be from head injury or partying too hard, the staff, has to assume it could be concussion related due to the strict NFL protocol on concussions nowadays. So they were more than likely playing it safe with him and his diagnosis. Unless they have a breathalyzer in the team facility, or Johnny admitted to being drunk (not likely) then there was no way to confirm the staff had any knowledge of him showing up intoxicated, especially when symptoms of being drunk or concussed run pretty parallel with each other. Good luck trying to prove that the browns intentionally “lied” and subsequently punish the team for one of its players, not being honest about his condition.

  30. I can see that Brown swirling around a toilet being flushed as he should be…ba bye $$ turd boy enjoy the sewer where you belong. You need help and sadly don’t have the cajones to help yourself. Therefore, consider the flushing sound step 1 in your road to recovery and best of luck.

  31. First three rounds of the next two drafts should be taken away from the Browns and given to the Packers.

  32. This is unbelievable that Johnny Manziel never got Suspended for Substance abuse, Whereas Justin Blackmon was punished indefinitely and was not allowed to return by the league.

    Afterall Goodell is an autocratic fool.

  33. He showed up with suspect coordination and balance, slurred speech and smelling like Scope mouthwash. They gave him the concussion tests, knowing that concussion symptoms may take a few days to appear. Since he failed the protocols, he was listed as concussed. When he sobered up the next day, they could not take him off the concussion list until he passed the protocol.
    Other than the smell of booze, tell me the difference between concussion symptoms and drunk?

  34. I’m in in the minority here, but maybe the Browns were trying to help him. Obviously it didn’t work out. The line between enabling and compassion is a thin one.

    The Browns do enough stupid things that deserve all the ridicule they get. This is not one of them.

  35. I don’t blame them for lying, by telling the media the truth it would have made the situation worse…..they didn’t enable his drinking, they didn’t allow him play…..they were protecting him from the onslaught of media that would have ensued if this information got out at the time…..what they should have done was suspend him with pay and get him help….media thinks its entitled with the truth in all situations even thought they play loose with the truth and sometimes out right lie….

  36. If this is true, then the league should take away the Browns first round draft choice, fine them $1 million dollars, and suspend the owner.

    The league concocted evidence against the Patriots, then came down like a ton of bricks on them for something that has turned out to be fairly insignificant. The Browns need to take the same medicine, maybe even something stronger.

  37. I have no problem with what the Browns did. When possible teams (as well as families, companies, friends, politicians etc) protect their own all the time and try to handle it internally (Blake Griffin is a recent example of a problem exposed) unless the problem is to big. Manziel is a high profile player playing a high profile position. Manziel’s issues now are being taken out on his girlfriend and not just the team and he is done. Nobody wins.

  38. I don’t know how the NFL can come down hard on the Browns for lying/misreporting injuries when they let the Colts off the hook just last week for doing the same thing with their QB.

  39. At this point, the Browns fans have no real option left, other than to completely turn away from this franchise. The loss of dollars is all that gets through to ownership. Stop showing up t0 games, stop buying their merchandise, and wait for some new ownership to take over.

  40. If the NFL really want to stop teams from falsifying their injury reports, then the Browns should be stripped of their 1st round pick in this years’ draft. It shouldn’t matter that they’re selecting 2nd overall, or if they are selecting 32nd, a precident needs to be set by the League to prevent teams doing this in the future.

    The fact that the Browns decided to use the concussion protocol as their covering excuse just makes this worse.

  41. They weren’t protecting Manziel, they were protecting their owner who insisted on drafting him. Dude was spiking his Gatorade with vodka at the rookie symposium and bragging about it to other rookies like he was cool. You expect me to believe the Browns didn’t know about this right away!? Yet they continued to force him on the coaches, dismiss Brian Hoyer, give him chance after chance and, most stupidly, NOT DRAFT A COMPETITOR/REPLACEMENT IN 2015 AFTER HIS DISASTROUS FAILURE OF A ROOKIE SEASON!!! So now GM, Coach and QB are all fired (or about to be) and we reboot, rinse, repeat as always but the one thing that stays the same is the ethic-less slimeball owner that the NFL railroaded into town despite his tone deaf, arrogant lack of understanding of his market. You can hire all the Ivy League suits you want but if your owner is allergic to listening to good advice and has a penchant for emasculating his coaching staff Dan Snyder-style, you’ll always get the same result.

  42. What is worse, trying to hide a mentally troubled young man problems to get through a crisis and putting his well being first or shooting up a physically injured or concussed young man with pain killers, and exposing him to further injury to put the team first.

  43. If true this is sad and Johnny needs some help. As for the Browns, let them tell their side of the story before conclusions are drawn.
    If it proves to be true, then the Browns will have to be punished with accordance to the NFL policy/rule.

  44. Most people saw them doing that especially after it was reported her showed up drunk…

    I won’t pretend I have never went to work hungover or still intoxicated fron the day before… Manziel has missed more work cause of his party habits in 2 seasons as a Brown than I have in my entire life.

    You can party like a rockstar, but there still needs to be a show.

  45. The Browns tried to do the right thing and cover it up to protect him and the idiot goes to Vegas and parties on game day. Hard to believe Hue had to lobby Haslem to cut bait.

  46. Strip them of their draft picks, not as a punishment but as a humanitarian trying to save several promising prospects from being thrown into the dumpster fire.

  47. Lets see if the “repeat offender” rule applies to anyone other than the Pats. We already know it doesnt apply to the Jets.

  48. What happened to all the hate for Mike Pettine here? I thought he was the bad guy for not letting Johnny Football be 23 and have fun? I thought Johnny Football wasn’t supposed to be benched? Seems a little stupid defending John Manziel in hindsight…

  49. I just watched this video. It is just an accusation, Silver did not provide any proof that the Browns lied about Manziel’s concussion.

  50. If you really want to mess with their heads, GIVE them a second first round pick. They will probably do more damage to themselves with it than if you had taken it away.

  51. Media is blaming the Browns for what a PLAYER did on his own time.

    Since when are employers supposed to be babysitters outside the workplace?

    I swear it is as if the media wants the “cradle to grave” ideology to apply to NFL players the way they apply it to the moocher welfare class that they’ve done such an amazing job of growing over the last 70 years.

    Johnny Football and the media:
    If YOU drink on your own time, then it’s YOUR responsibility. If you come into work drunk, you are fired forthwith. How is that confusing?

  52. psubeerman21 says:
    Feb 9, 2016 12:44 PM
    Strip them of a second round pick and fine then 250,000.

    ———————————————-

    Yea I agree, because a 1st round pick is pointless. They’re going to mess it up anyway.

  53. Hell, they should have run him out there drunk. Might have won a couple more games, and no concussion worries….

  54. Idiots. There’s nothing wrong with O – Personal. Or O – Conduct Detrimental to the Team.

    You don’t have to disclose anything beyond that to the media.

  55. My how times have changed. Early Super Bowls had guys showing up drunk to the game because they thought they would never play and end up being the star of the game despite the hangover and we all laugh about it, nay, glorify it. Similarly, Ken Stabler just got voted into the HOF and many wax poetic about his drinking and fornicating.

    Now we have Manziel and he is likely being thrown out of the league by his ear for similar behaviour.

    It’s a good thing, but I am just amazed at some of the hypocrisy out there.

  56. For the love of God, can we please stop relating every situation to the Patriots ? The situations are not the same. All rule breaches are not the same. Judge the situation on its merits, objectively, like rational grown-up human beings.

  57. I suspect it’s a completely accurate statement, because when JF walked in drunk, someone hit him so hard they really did concuss him.
    In all seriousness, Silver is wrong. This is not enabling him. Enabling would have been to make excuses for his actions and pretend it wasn’t wrong. People have been doing that for him for years. The Browns, not so much.
    As others have pointed out, it was probably the best thing they could have done for him to allow him to take care of himself and get some help. You know teams have their own ways of helping players with problems; doctors and counselors on staff or on call. If they did it, this was just a way the Browns could help him without having the birds of prey flock to his slowly dying carcass.
    Nor do I see how this in some way abuses the concussion protocol. They didn’t IGNORE a concussion, they just used it as an excuse.
    As for the integrity of the injury report, it’s a farce anyway. Teams misrepresent players injuries all the time, all season long. Let’s not get our panties in a bunch over that.

  58. It should be clear by now that the best fans in the world are genuine Browns fans. How you do it, I cannot even begin to imagine.

  59. Technically the symptoms of being drunk and the symptoms of a concussion are pretty similar. Before the NFL get’s all high and mighty all of a sudden. Just remember a team can’t force a player to go into rehab.

  60. As a Browns’ fan, it makes no sense to penalize the current team/coaching staff. But penalize Pettine et. al. and make sure they return to the league anytime soon. There is no excuse for this behavior if it is true.

  61. This, just one year after Ray Farmer is suspended for four games. If true, the Browns are repeat offenders. No first round draft pick for you!

  62. He played college bowl games drunk… as in, chugging a bottle of fireball at halftime because he was so hungover.

    Of course that was after he went to his coach and tried to take himself out of the game.

    Johnny has some massive problems, and the Browns should be ashamed of themselves to not only enable it, but to lie about it.

    He should of been cut the same day.

    There is no ‘side’ of the story for the Browns.

    They knew he was drunk. They knew Manziel was a bum. They knew they hitched their wagon to Manziel. They knew it would create a media firestorm… because ONCE AGAIN Manziel was showcasing what the Browns ignored before the draft, and all through his tenure there…

    That he is a unaccountable drunk and drug user.

    There is no side to the Browns story. They screwed up massively. They tried to tell the public earlier that such behavior got him benched, this time they lied about it. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t say you are trying to straighten him out when you are also lying for him.

    The Browns did wrong because they couldn’t bear confronting publicly what Johnny did wrong.

    Hey Cam, go play for the Browns… they’re just as full of it as you.

  63. dryzzt23 says:
    Feb 9, 2016 1:34 PM
    Media is blaming the Browns for what a PLAYER did on his own time.

    Since when are employers supposed to be babysitters outside the workplace?

    I swear it is as if the media wants the “cradle to grave” ideology to apply to NFL players the way they apply it to the moocher welfare class that they’ve done such an amazing job of growing over the last 70 years.

    Johnny Football and the media:
    If YOU drink on your own time, then it’s YOUR responsibility. If you come into work drunk, you are fired forthwith. How is that confusing?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The reason this is a story is that he *wasn’t* fired forthwith. He was placed into the concussion protocol to hide his behavior.

    The Browns lied to cover up for an indiscretion, and used something that has been a hot button issue to do so.

    Not sure what any of it has to do with welfare, though I’m pretty sure the NFL doesn’t have much to do with social services.

  64. A nightmare since he walked across the stage making a money sign.

    This is my team, but my team deserves this for being so stupid. Even if little skippy were a model citizen, he’s 4’8″, he doesn’t know how to read a playbook, and he’s going to get broken in half in the AFC North. Just a disaster. Haslam should fire himself…..

  65. There will be a lot of discussion surrounding this situation & the union involvement in the near future.

    What I’m impressed by is the level of shielding done the colleges! Between Aaron Hernandez at Florida, Manziel at A&M, not to mention all the others that have “acted out”, the coaches have done a stellar job of keeping them out of the press!

    Those who believe that being a sociopath or having substance abuse issues began after they left…*sigh* I hope you’ll get help too.

  66. And, we wonder why he has issues. Manziel will regret the day when he is out of the NFL and shows up to a real job drunk and they…you know…fire him.

  67. I guess because it was “reported” it must be true. By the NFL Network no less. It therefore, unequivocally, must be true. Of course it has to be. No really it has to be.

  68. The Browns have denied the claim. The NFL will no doubt investigate, right? JFF is going to be out of the league next year regardless, because no one is going to sign him right now.

    My question is this: during the NFL’s investigation, what’s to stop him from saying “Yes, they absolutely lied about me having a concussion, I was drunk” and getting the Browns fined/docked a pick/etc?

    He’d come off as being upfront about it and being cooperative with the league while screwing the Browns one last time. He’s going to sit a year anyway, suspended or unsigned.

  69. I would say to dock them a first round pick but since they routinely waste them anyway I am not sure that sends any message at all.

  70. After reading this story, several comments, & the story from a few months ago It sounds like he showed up to practice a little off when questioned he said he had a headache went to the team neurologist who (is not paid to do sobriety tests) did a concussion test and he failed it (punch drunk = concussion) Apparently once concussion goes beside your name it is really hard to get rid of it

    As much as I would love to blame Jimmy Hazmat This is a mixture of a league trying to save face as former stars are offing themselves due to holes in their brains, a coaching staff grasping for any reason to bench a QB they have no confidence in because the owner really wants him to play, an overzealous media who can’t get enough of the Manziel trainwreck and what looks like new England fans looking for other bad behavior to point to in order to take the spotlight off them

    And the football gods decided to swirl it all together in the only cauldron large enough to contain it

    Cleveland OH

  71. From purely an ethics point of view I am mixed. Johnny was long gone before this incident. CLE did not make him what he is. How come we don’t call out teams to get their players to take pain pills and Cortisone shots all these decades, who then end up addicted or physically debilitated? They are actually directly responsible start to finish for causing those problems.

    If true i assume they were just tired of the circus. Likely the best way was to say benched for behavior reasons, and refuse to comment as to keep it in house. But i guess they have done that int he past … A FEW TIMES. And despite that the media circus still came to town.

    I assume they feel sorry for the rest of the team having to deal with the same distraction yet again.

    Compared to all the other people and incidents that enabled Johnny over his lifetime this one is so late int he game and relatively small I don’t think CLE is the fall guy.

    The league is clear on lying about injury reports. It is a big no no. Without all the hyperbole this is going to cost CLE.

    You would think they would know what a bad idea this is, and must have known there is NO WAY this was not going to get leaked.

  72. It seems likely that Manziel had a problem before the Browns ever drafted him (although playing for that franchise could drive one to drink). A bit of detective work probably could have told the Browns all they needed to know about this guy, and they could have drafted someone else. Instead, they ignored what had to be obvious warning signs, and drafted him anyway.

    The aptly-named Factory Of Sadness can’t get out of their own way. What an embarrassment.

  73. Well, the symptoms of a concussion and a hangover are damn close. I couldn’t tell the difference either.

    Manziel is a dumbass

    My Browns are bigger dumbasses for protecting him.

  74. I’m half expecting the following statement from the league.

    We now have supporting evidence that all the concussions reported in 2015 may not have been. Thank you Brown’s for plausible deniability.

    We’re sorry about Manziel, mistakes happen. Here’s a 1st for your troubles.

    Yours Truly,
    The Commish

  75. In this case a kid with a drinking problem relapsed and instead of letting the media have a field day with him (like what’s happening now). They played it off as a concussion so he could handle it without people judging him or the teams handling of him. It was the right move in a tough situation.
    **********************************************
    I think they were trying to do the kid a favor but no good deed goes unpunished.

  76. I think the coach and GM were doing what they were told to do by the owner- keep this under wraps so we can hang onto him. Not sure why on that front!

    Somebody forgot to tell Johnny Out Of Football that Kenny Stabler is dead, and no one could ever replace him. Especially since Snake could party like a rock star because he always managed to put on the show!

  77. Well, Pettine never liked Manziel and knew he was likely getting fired at the end of the season so guaranteed this wouldn’t have been his idea. Feel free to look at their front office for who’d have been most wanting to save face.

    Remember all the Browns fans railing against Pettine for benching Manziel? He wasn’t a good coach but he was spot-on when it came to Johnny.

  78. If they do lose 1st round pick I think they should have a lottery on their pick and the Patriots. Who gets those picks. Why punish the player that gets drafted 32 and he will get 2nd round money when he should be a 1st round pick.

  79. Check the video of Manziel getting his head slammed to the turf after a scamper of several yards. He got up a bit groggy from the hard tackle to the ground. If Johnny had a drink or two before a practice, that’s a separate issue.

  80. Gee if they said the coach was drinking them that I would buy easier. LOL

    I wonder if he is just so infatuated by his girl in Texas he can’t stand cleveland so its his way of getting out? Don no

  81. Providing he was drunk due to drinking beer from an official NFL sponsor, Goodall will be happy. If he was drinking some other beer, then expect a huge fine.

  82. If he wanted the drunk party life style, he should’ve stayed in college and learned his lessons in a less demanding environment. You don’t get free passes in the NFL. On a less fortunate note, Johnny will still have “B” movies and maybe MMA. Would love to see him get popped in the octagon a few times. …Just sayheyin….

  83. Appalling? Really? You’re appalled by this?

    What Michael Vick did was appalling. What Ray Rice did on camera was appalling. What Warren Moon did off camera was appalling. Enabling the misguided son of a Texas oilman by taking advantage of a gap in a poorly thought out system is not appalling.

    Just because your opinion is pointless doesn’t mean you shouldn’t at least try to retain some semblance of perspective.

    Keep up the work.

  84. You all are so ignorant. You want to believe an independent neurologist would put his license on the line to protect this child? Lol HE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A CONCUSSION BY AN INDEPENDENT NEUROLOGIST. The Browns have no control over that. I guarantee nothing will come of this against the Browns sorry to ruin all your punch lines and piling on

  85. steelgrave says:
    Feb 9, 2016 12:54 PM

    “classclown71 says:
    Feb 9, 2016 12:51 PM
    Drunk, fat, and stupid is no way to go through life son.”

    Be fair, he ain’t fat…..
    ___________________________

    Be fair, the quote is “Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life son.”

  86. “Other than the smell of booze, tell me the difference between concussion symptoms and drunk?”

    ——————————————————–

    -hitting on fat chicks
    -ordering steak bombs at 2am
    -thinking you can kick the crap out of the bouncer who out weighs you by 30 pounds
    -recounting old stories with friends while exaggerating what really happened back then

    Those are the normal ones. In Johnny’s case, they may vary.

  87. While it did look like a cover job at the time. I haven’t heard of any teammates or other personnel claiming that he smelled of booze.

  88. Seriously, this is just out of control creating more drama to a program that quite frankly doesn’t need these headlines. People, ask yourself some serious questions as to why; Why would they even do this because it isn’t like he was so great and needed out of despair they skirted the NFL rules. If anything how about he either lied or it was the actual truth? You’re only as good as the lowest guy on the pole and this seems to be another case of let’s just write to write.

    Browns, football, NFL, aside, your job is only a part of you and I feel not sorry for Johnny, but sincerely hope was a person he can get control of himself.

  89. Seriously, this is just out of control creating more drama to a program that quite frankly doesn’t need these headlines. People, ask yourself some serious questions as to why; Why would they even do this because it isn’t like he was so great and needed out of despair they skirted the NFL rules. If anything how about he either lied or it was the actual truth? You’re only as good as the lowest guy on the pole and this seems to be another case of let’s just write to write.

    Browns, football, NFL, aside, your job is only a part of you and I feel not sorry for Johnny, but sincerely hope as a person he can get control of himself.

  90. I actually laughed out loud at this because if they were covering up his drinking, they really really suck at it. The dozen or so incidents since he’s been in Cleveland, all of which involving him being drunk, prove that the guy is a raging alcoholic, and any idiot can see it

  91. Whatever shortcomings Mike Pettine had, you have to give him credit for one thing – he tried to hold Manziel responsible for his actions. Too bad, the GM and owner undermined him every time he tried to impose discipline.

  92. holygamoly says:
    Feb 9, 2016 1:42 PM
    For the love of God, can we please stop relating every situation to the Patriots ? The situations are not the same. All rule breaches are not the same. Judge the situation on its merits, objectively, like rational grown-up human beings.
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    I suspect Pats fans aren’t going to be real receptive to the notion that a little cheating is somehow ok. Just sayin’.

  93. How many years have Pats fans been hearing about the moral superiority of not cheating? Well here we are with yet another example of a franchise that has broken the rules numerous times (not that a single time shoudl matter from a moral perspective). Pats fans won’t hold their collective breath waiting for the moral superiority to fall off the wagon. Simply put, you’re running out of teams.

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