Cleveland radio host resigns

Last month, Cleveland radio host Kevin Kiley cooked up the hottest of takes regarding the fitness of females to serve as football coaches. Kiley’s rant migrated from illogical to cartoonish, culminating in an argument that women shouldn’t vote on the Pro Football Hall of Fame, either.

His station, 92.3 The Fan, never disciplined Kiley. He’s nevertheless out, following a resignation that he claims was tendered in November.

“My principles, their principles of doing business they don’t match,” Kiley said in an interview with WOIO-TV, via Cleveland.com. “It was tough for me to work there. . . . In 35 years I’ve never been censored and I shouldn’t have been censored for this. You shouldn’t accept censorship ever. You should make sure the people on the radio are telling you the truth as they see it.”

Via Deadspin.com, Kiley claimed that the station censored him by refusing to allow the host to respond to criticism of his comments about female coaches.

He shouldn’t have been prevented from responding to criticism of his comments; he should have been prevented from saying anything. If 92.3 The Fan was going to allow him to remain on the air (it shouldn’t have), why shouldn’t he have been given even more rope?

Absent the additional hot takes that would have come in response to people who exercised their First Amendment right to call him a moron, a misogynist, and/or a misfit, some other station will be more likely to give him a spatula-shaped microphone so that he can serve up some more.

54 responses to “Cleveland radio host resigns

  1. I never understood why radio stations hired personalities to say shocking things and then act surprised when they say something shocking. It would be like hiring people based on them being lazy and then complaining that they never got any work done.

    It doesn’t make what he said any more correct or defensible, but you get what you pay for.

  2. Where do these morons come off whining about 1st Amendment rights? It the government that can’t censor citizens but a private company that is paying your wage? They have all the say when you are on their time.

  3. Sure makes you wonder about the country we live in when you can’t say something you believe to be true without someone destroying your livelihood.

    As a former NFL player, I believe Kiley is giving an honest opinion and shouldn’t be forced out because a certain candidate has falsely created gender as a hot topic.

  4. Agree or disagree with his take ( I disagree with it by the way) freedom of speech is on the way out in this country. Usher in the days of censorship on a scary level.

  5. Well, at least, Michael Irvin is available to work with as a co-host again.

    Irvin and Kiley co-hosted a radio show in together in Dallas and Miami from 2008-2011.

  6. We’ve GOT to stop invoking the First Amendment where it doesn’t belong. Its misuse is spreading like a virus.

  7. Never be censored ?

    If that were the norm, we would constantly hear profanity, from the immature, who dominate the airwaves.

    This guy is a jerk.

  8. I don’t believe he should have been censored but I really can’t get too worked up about it. He used to co-host a Miami show with Michael Irvin. Irvin isn’t the greatest talker but I learned something from him every day. Kiley made the show unlistenable. If only there had been a K̶i̶l̶e̶y̶ app.

  9. Once again, if people are going to complain about free speech being violated you should actually know what it means. The first amendment prevents the government from jailing or punishing in any way someone for expressing their views. It does NOT extend to employers. Employees represent their employers, and can say whatever they want, but employers are free to respond in the way that best suits them. If you’re going to say something that in turn makes your employer look bad for employing you, be prepared to accept the consequences rather than make nonsensical arguments about free speech

  10. Freedom of speech is NOT on the way out; people misunderstand what the First Amendment actually protects. Restricting Kiley (and his supporters or detractors) would only be a violation of the First Amendment if it was a GOVERNMENT ENTITY doing the restricting. A private entity – such as Kiley’s station, or even this website – can restrict speech in any way they desire.
    You would think a lawyer who runs this blog would be aware of that.

  11. commenters who lament political correctness ignore the fact that radio is free over the air. You aren’t paying their wages via subscription, advertisers pay them by airing commercials.

    If his statements cause advertisers to shy away, then it is perfectly understandable for station to take actions to retain them.

    If you want to speak your mind with absolutely no ramifications, then post a blog. If your thoughts resonate with the public, then they will start to read and you may attract advertisers who share your point of view.

  12. Ask Mary Kay Cabot about him. The guy is the most negative and hateful person on the radio and I think people finally had enough of it. I think this is great news because now 92.3 will get their listeners back.

  13. Agree glenuendo’s comment above. All of you people complaining about political correctness, freedom of speech, the 1st amendment, etc-

    He’s an employee of a company. They pay him so that they can tell him what to do. That’s how it works. That’s how all jobs work. Just because you work for a radio station doesn’t mean it’s your own personal soapbox. You don’t get some special right to broadcast YOUR brand across the world.

    Lots of women listen to that station. I bet lots of women work for that radio station too. I bet lots of women buy that radio stations product, ad time. Is it so surprising that they don’t condone his remarks about women that many women (and men) were offended by? How is it a violation of his 1st amendment rights for them to tell him to not go on THEIR radio station and continue saying these things that offend their employees and customers?

    I always get the sinking suspicion that people most likely to invoke “the constitution” somehow in an argument are the least likely to have actually read it or understand it in any meaningful way. They just memorize one little snippet of it (“shall not be infringed” comes to mind) that validates their personal views and then repeat it until the end of time, ignoring anything to the contrary, because their isolated little piece of the constitution is somehow infallible. End rant.

  14. I am absolutely amazed by the number of people that can not comprehend what freedom of speech actually means.

    The guy who signs his paycheck can fire him for saying things that are bad for business. If he wants to stand on a street corner and tell the world that Adolf Hitler is the greatest person ever, then he has every right to do that. But if he wants to go on the radio and make those same statements, his boss can (and will) fire him.

    I hate PC garbage, but this dude getting “fired” does not violate freedom of speech rights

  15. Err, it’s not censorship for a private company to make a decision about their product (in this case, the message they use to attract listeners, which in turn attracts other businesses to buy ad time).

    Censorship would be the government threatening to shut the station down unless they broadcast the message that the government demanded, which is not what happened. So keep your melodrama about the first amendment, political correctness, the future of our nation, etc. to yourself.

  16. Stop with the Freedom of Speech arguments. Just stop. You have no idea what you are talking about.

    Freedom of Speech as guaranteed in the First Amendment does not mean you can say whatever you want whenever you want without consequences. It has never meant that.

    If any government agency attempted to force the station to keep him on the air OR force him off of the air, it would be the STATION’S rights of Freedom of Expression that were being violated, not his. When he takes their money to go their studio to talk on shows being broadcast by them, he is speaking on behalf of THEM, no matter what disclaimer they may throw in, and they have complete rights to control the message that their station puts out. He has NO right to say whatever he wants.

    If Kevin Kiley wants to spout inflammatory nonsense and have his 1st Amendment rights protected- the answer is very simple. All he has do is fund and start his own podcast or station or web site or whatever where he can control his own message. As long as he insists on being paid by someone else to talk, he is subject to THEIR rights to control THEIR message.

  17. It’s censorship. The best thing about Cleveland radio hosts is that they speak their minds and you can tell they don’t follow the letter of NFL agenda.

    This time, the agenda of promoting women in football didn’t fall in line with his personal opinion which he was paid to give. Good for him taking the high road, sticking to his guns and refusing to work for a company that likely handed him a canned apology to read on air.

  18. I don’t see it as a free speech issue I see it as a math issue.

    The product pool of male coaches to female coaches is so disproportionate the odds of finding a female coach who is better than a man is very very low.

  19. “Sure makes you wonder about the country we live in when you can’t say something you believe to be true without someone destroying your livelihood.”
    _____________

    I was telling that to my now ex-boss just the other day as I shared with him how bad a job I thought he was doing managing the company.

  20. Guys read the article. The freedom of speech part was mentioned about the people critizing him for his comments, saying that they have the right to say what they want about him. He never complained about freedom of speech.

  21. To the “freedom of speech” crowd. There are a number of things guaranteed in the constitution. Each comes with certain repercussions. You have the right to guns, the right to vote, speak freely, etc. When us misuse them, there are repercussions that we must pay.

  22. Kevin Kiley was an idiot who did nothing more than spew negativity and a contrarian opinion to rile up the fans.. It’s the old school shock jock mentality and he needed to go.. He should have gone out the door with Chuck Booms..

    Good Riddance

  23. Couldn’t agree more. He should be allowed to say anything he wants and come off looking like an idiot. At the same time the station has a right to fire him at any time for said comments. Trying to rope him in is the only option I don’t agree with.

  24. The Cleveland Plain Dealer should hire him as their Browns beat reporter. MKC is horrible, is just a shill for the Browns and just repeats any info they feed her. Tony Grossi was the best thing for the PD, until they fired him for expressing his feeling about the poor state of the Browns,

  25. Media outlets own the licenses, which means you, as an employee, do not have freedom of speech while representing them. They make the rules and you must abide. You can attack them after you’re fired and suffer no further damages, unless you lie about them, which will result in a suit for defamation.

  26. This isn’t a freedom of speech issue, but I wonder if the result would be the same if his concerns about women coaching in football were more legitimate? I don’t “object” to female coaches, but I am concerned that they won’t be accepted by players in a similar way that many coaches & managers in professional baseball who either didn’t play or didn’t reach the majors were/are not accepted. This is not the same as racial integration so the “Jackie Robinson” pioneering analogies don’t fit. You can’t force a team of players to play hard for someone who they don’t respect.

  27. lukedunphysscienceproject says:
    Feb 12, 2016 12:04 PM
    Stop with the Freedom of Speech arguments. Just stop. You have no idea what you are talking about.

    Freedom of Speech as guaranteed in the First Amendment does not mean you can say whatever you want whenever you want without consequences. It has never meant that.

    If any government agency attempted to force the station to keep him on the air OR force him off of the air, it would be the STATION’S rights of Freedom of Expression that were being violated, not his. When he takes their money to go their studio to talk on shows being broadcast by them, he is speaking on behalf of THEM, no matter what disclaimer they may throw in, and they have complete rights to control the message that their station puts out. He has NO right to say whatever he wants.

    If Kevin Kiley wants to spout inflammatory nonsense and have his 1st Amendment rights protected- the answer is very simple. All he has do is fund and start his own podcast or station or web site or whatever where he can control his own message. As long as he insists on being paid by someone else to talk, he is subject to THEIR rights to control THEIR message.

    Nice post and correct!!

  28. Now him and Booms can get back together and reminisce about the good old days like when Booms had his love affair with Johnny Manziel or when both of them said stupid stuff repeatedly over and over again.

  29. Freedom of speech is one thing, potentially damaging rhetoric is another! You cannot yell “fire” in a crowded theater no matter the First Amendment. These guys have no scruples, morales, nor integrity making these kind of statements. And true neither do the stations that hire the “shock-jock” until it poses a problem for them and ratings come into play. They are all morons, not freedom of speech, but a hypothesis based upon evidence. LOL

  30. Mary Kay is awful. If a male journalist did as a poor of a job as she does then that male journalist would have been canned a long time ago. I see nothing wrong with what Kiley said seeing he actually played football at the highest level.

  31. It’s not a first amendment violation, it’s not censorship. The business made the decision to move on from him after he said some things that they didn’t want to be associated with. Had they done nothing, that means that they condoned it, which would have blown back on them. Now the problem is what he said about Cabot was probably accurate. From watching some of her pieces, she comes off as clueless and in over her head. Had Kiley simply just focused on her, there probably wouldn’t have been an issue. When he went 2-3 steps beyond and generalized a whole group, he was in hot water.

  32. Kiley’s rant migrated from illogical to cartoonish, culminating in an argument that women shouldn’t vote on the Pro Football Hall of Fame, either.
    =================================

    That’s just your opinion. The majority of us believe your comments and stance on the Redskins name is illogical and cartoonish.

  33. joparks2012 says:
    Feb 12, 2016 2:08 PM
    It’s not a first amendment violation, it’s not censorship. The business made the decision to move on from him after he said some things that they didn’t want to be associated with. Had they done nothing, that means that they condoned it, which would have blown back on them. Now the problem is what he said about Cabot was probably accurate. From watching some of her pieces, she comes off as clueless and in over her head. Had Kiley simply just focused on her, there probably wouldn’t have been an issue. When he went 2-3 steps beyond and generalized a whole group, he was in hot water

    ———————————-

    It doesn’t have to be a first amendment violation to be censorship.

    Where do you people come from? Obviously not an educational background.

  34. Kiley and Booms were solid. Get them back together on a Podcast where they can fire away. People wayyyyyy to sensitive about what people say but if you tune into one of the major networks tonight you’ll see plenty of sex and guns!

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