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Joe Thomas says it’s a “sad end” for Johnny Manziel in Cleveland

Cleveland Browns tackle Joe Thomas celebrates after a 24-6 win over the Detroit Lions in a preseason NFL football game, Thursday, Aug. 15, 2013, in Cleveland. (AP Photo/Tony Dejak) AP

Johnny Manziel will no longer be a part of the Cleveland Browns organization. At this point it’s just a matter of time.

Even teammates understand the end is near for Manziel.

It’s a sad end to the story in Cleveland for Johnny,” Browns left tackle Joe Thomas said, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer. “He’s a guy that personally I like. I believe he has a lot of talent. He’s got the talent to be an NFL quarterback, but it obviously hasn’t worked out so far.”

Manziel’s tenure with the Browns has been a near total disaster. Uneven play on the field and numerous incidents off of it have expedited his end in Cleveland. Manziel showed the occasional flash that would bring renewed promise over what he potentially could become. But it became clear he was incapable of getting out of his own way.

The official end is the only thing left between the Browns and Manziel.

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  1. arrogantnation says: Feb 12, 2016 1:12 AM

    Joe deserves better.

  2. gonakgod says: Feb 12, 2016 1:16 AM

    Is it really that sad???

  3. johnqlunchbox says: Feb 12, 2016 1:25 AM

    Joe, we love you, but Manziel is a cancer. Goodbye to bad rubbish.

  4. Dr.McStuffins says: Feb 12, 2016 1:26 AM

    As a guy who moved from Texas to Cleveland, I think I cam say with certainty, and seriously, that he’ll do just fine when he gets out of this dumpster of a city.

  5. youbettercallsaul says: Feb 12, 2016 1:55 AM

    30 for 30 material all the way.

  6. deftspyder says: Feb 12, 2016 2:09 AM

    The Browns need a refund.

  7. MurdochMysteries says: Feb 12, 2016 2:11 AM

    Wow. Who would’ve known that when Manziel & Clowney were being debated for the #1 overall pick, the answer should’ve been: leave them both for Day 3.

  8. raidernation37 says: Feb 12, 2016 2:20 AM

    Well it’s not like anything else has worked for the browns either

  9. blackbeard43 says: Feb 12, 2016 2:33 AM

    Ah, yes. Whatever happened to Johnny Football?

    Well, he was once a sensation in the college gridiron and titillated imaginations of what kind of quarterback he could’ve been in the pros.

    Remember Robert Griffin III?

    ROBERT GRIFFIN THE THIRD!?

    remember him? Ah, I remember the collective ahhhhhhhh, of HIM.

  10. jermainewiggins says: Feb 12, 2016 2:36 AM

    Soooo glad he’s not on my favorite team.

  11. daaabears says: Feb 12, 2016 2:44 AM

    If he had been exempted from the combine, would it have mattered?

  12. twtom11 says: Feb 12, 2016 2:52 AM

    I’m certainly no Panthers fan but I find I’m amazed how Cam Newton is vilified for dabbing and having a good time, whilst with wife-beating, drunk-driving Manziel it’s always ‘a sad end’, ‘such a shame’, ‘he just needs some help’ etc

  13. denverdude7 says: Feb 12, 2016 4:15 AM

    The Browns should sue Manziel for breach of contract and get the money they paid him back.

  14. seabreezes51 says: Feb 12, 2016 4:18 AM

    Heading to Dallas… How bout them cowboys!

  15. tralfaz1127 says: Feb 12, 2016 4:21 AM

    He never showed on field talent to be an NFL QB.
    A couple broken plays he heaved it down the field or ran. That was it. Throws off back foot, horrible fundamentals, head case, can’t read a defense after first read, was exactly what Charley Cassely said in his draft lead up. 4th rounder at best.

  16. dolphinsruleall says: Feb 12, 2016 4:40 AM

    Official new moniker: Johnny Doucheball. I don’t care about other teams as a general rule, but damn, I’m always made to feel bad for Browns fans. They deserve better than the continuous run of crap they’ve had to endure. So do we for that matter, but that’s this whole other story lmao

  17. lemmetalkwouldya says: Feb 12, 2016 4:51 AM

    You can’t say the Browns weren’t fair to Manziel.

    They gave him more than enough chances to take his job – and his LIFE – more seriously …. he kept being his own worst enemy.

    He has shown little commitment to his position, and despite the pool of talent being so poor, I don’t see another ream wasting a moment of their time on him, when he has shown so little dedication; and if any team DID, it wouldn’t go any better there.

    Put Manziel on the list of people who pissed away a chance at a great career, alongside Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf.

  18. typicalnipple says: Feb 12, 2016 4:55 AM

    The Big John Football.

  19. jetsfan1985 says: Feb 12, 2016 5:04 AM

    Too bad. I guess the power of substances has a greater hold over some of us than others, which sadly leads to wasted talent; in sports or any field. Good luck to him.

  20. openfieldtackle says: Feb 12, 2016 5:52 AM

    Steeler fan here…. As much of a rivalry everyone in the AFC North has it would be great to see the Browns finally get it together. The Browns fans are passionate and deserve a good team!
    They really are only a few players away from that but the QB situation has to be corrected.

    BTW we still hate you guys and want to kick your a** every year. This is still just sports and the Passionate Cleveland fans deserve better!

  21. sidepull says: Feb 12, 2016 6:15 AM

    Jerry Jones is waiting for you Johnny. Hes ready to proclaim you a pillar of the community in Dallas, a person wronged and needing acceptance, just a little love. Get the glory hole ready. Jerry has always wanted you Johnny. Johny and Jerry.

  22. savior72 says: Feb 12, 2016 6:30 AM

    Sad, but predictable. That’s what’s really sad.

  23. jetfanfolife says: Feb 12, 2016 6:34 AM

    Why is it sad?! He did it to himself! You’re not responsible for his actions…he is! Hopefully one day he”ll grow up, but unfortunately for people like Johnny he’ll need to hit rock bottom to learn this lesson

    Let this be a lesson to all. No matter where you are at in modern society…Rich, poor, and middle class…Drugs (when in full blown addiction – that includes being an alcoholic) will ruin about every single thing in your life: Relationships, family, friends, jobs, and including the most important thing – YOURSELF!

    Get help Johnny, commit yourself to a long term drug treatment facility before the Grim Reaper visits you. Prayers sent!

  24. Indybear says: Feb 12, 2016 6:41 AM

    From the first time I saw the money sign, I was hoping he would fail. I was waiting to see it and betting it would happen. But I was hoping it would happen on the field and not this way. Those of you who so easily pass judgment on him have obviously not been exposed to someone struggling with addiction and substance abuse. I hope he gets well, comes back to the League and THEN gets his butt kicked.

  25. joeturkey says: Feb 12, 2016 6:43 AM

    Joe’s being kind. The frat boy was a d-bag from the moment he walked in the door. No appreciation what it takes to be a professional. Good riddance.

  26. m2karateman says: Feb 12, 2016 7:09 AM

    Manziel was trash at A&M. He was trash when they drafted him. Manziel is a nobody, and the more people pay attention to him the worse it gets. Ignore him and hopefully he’ll go away.

  27. youngs79 says: Feb 12, 2016 7:13 AM

    The Browns did this to themselves. They paid for a study of College QB’s before the draft. Their report said to take Teddy Bridgewater, and he was available at their pick. They still didn’t take him. This would have all been avoided. Why pay for a study when you don’t follow the results?

  28. byHim4u says: Feb 12, 2016 7:16 AM

    Forget football, I’m praying for him to get his ‘life’ together.

  29. coachd33 says: Feb 12, 2016 7:25 AM

    Only time will tell..

  30. ctiggs says: Feb 12, 2016 7:37 AM

    Johnnyhasbeen or johnnyneverwas

  31. jr4real says: Feb 12, 2016 7:46 AM

    Hoge was right.

  32. tangledorchard says: Feb 12, 2016 7:51 AM

    Johnny Highball would be a good fit here with the Arizona Rattlers of the arena league. We’re the closest franchise to Vegas and he’d be a big hit with the town drunks.

  33. 2manyconcussions says: Feb 12, 2016 7:52 AM

    This young man needs some serious help. He will never be able to play professional football until he resolves his substance abuse issues and, more importantly, the underlying reasons that cause him to medicate himself in the first place. This will not be a short road to recovery.

  34. mapedog1 says: Feb 12, 2016 7:58 AM

    Browns fans should be forced to have Johnny as their QB for the next ten years. I live in Cleveland and every single fan to a person shouted his name from the mountain top as the savior of the franchise and the city. Forget that he had multiple All American lineman and Mike Evans grabbing jump balls at A&M. Until Browns fans begin to understand football and what it takes to win, they deserve the Manziels of the world.

  35. mazenblue says: Feb 12, 2016 8:22 AM

    Everyone loved watching Ryan Leif flush his life down the drain. I am having fun watching this other rich kid do the same.

  36. buttfumbles says: Feb 12, 2016 8:22 AM

    Doesn’t everything end sadly in Cleveland?

  37. jrob23 says: Feb 12, 2016 8:24 AM

    he never had a chance. His G.M. didn’t want him, his head coach didn’t want him, his left tackle didn’t either. He barely played despite outplaying his competitions both pre seasons. He gets benched for stupid reasons. I’m sure Johnny had had enough. He knew he had to facilitate a release and he has. Good for him. He WILL latch on somewhere else and succeed and all the morons in the Browns organization will cry and moan and try to smear him. But it will be too late. Then…that will make it a good 30-30

  38. stigman2012 says: Feb 12, 2016 8:25 AM

    Forever in the same discussions as Ryan Leaf, Todd Marinovich and Boz.

  39. roddoliver says: Feb 12, 2016 8:30 AM

    And to think Joe Thomas almost became an NFL champion this season.

  40. rob46rob says: Feb 12, 2016 8:30 AM

    Does anybody know what kind of substance abuse he really had or is he just plain off his rocker

  41. omeimontis says: Feb 12, 2016 8:31 AM

    Joe Thomas is not the GM or the owner. He cannot make any decision on Manziel’s future in Cleveland. He is of course entitled to his opinion, as any sports writer or athlete or fan are entitled to express theirs. He could be right of course, but if he is, then it is luck, or perhaps even sound judgement, but it is not because he heard it from the GM or owner. He is just speculating. Don’t treat it as fact.

  42. xbox4wwe says: Feb 12, 2016 8:34 AM

    Everytime I see a new article about Manziel I sit back and thank God Dave Caldwell didn’t buy into the hype of Johnny Football and went with Blake Bortles.
    Man for awhile before that draft I really wanted Manziel. Go Jags!

  43. omeimontis says: Feb 12, 2016 8:37 AM

    I will believe it when I hear it from the horse’s mouth. That means unless Manziel is officially cut, I am not going to buy it for a single minute.

  44. jerrywalters says: Feb 12, 2016 8:41 AM

    He never had the NFL-level talent. Terrible decision by Haslam to draft him … way to big of a risk on the field let alone the off the field stuff. Set the Browns back a few years.

  45. metalup666 says: Feb 12, 2016 8:48 AM

    “Heading to Dallas… How bout them cowboys!”

    Where did you hear this? Is this confirmed? Or, is this just another chuckle-head stating what they think will happen? The last report I heard was that the only team that might be remotely interested in Manziel is the Rams. That is/was probably speculation as well.

  46. corvusrex96 says: Feb 12, 2016 8:51 AM

    This ended exactly like everyone outside of Cleveland and College Station thought that it would . A moderately talented QB with substance abuse issues and a narcissistic attitude is given money and fame. really , how else was this going to end ?

  47. kwjsb says: Feb 12, 2016 9:05 AM

    Top 10 Qb’s since the rebirth

    1) Couch – The 1 year they had a running game …Play Offs

    2) D.A. – It was his only good year…but what a year

    3) Holcomb – If only Northcutt could catch……

    4) Hoyer – Best Record – Johnny’s shadow was too much

    5) Colt – Took out the Pats and saints in consecutive weeks… with no help

    6) Josh McCown – Best Loser QB

    7) Weeden – How sad is that

    8) BQ – Worked so much on his guns in the gym he ruined his throwing motion

    9) Luke McCown – Like his brother…The force was not with him

    10) Thaddy Lew – Played as well as anyone here….Not good enough

  48. getakluwe says: Feb 12, 2016 9:05 AM

    No sympathy here. He’s a wretchedly disgusting excuse for a person.

  49. jonathankrobinson424 says: Feb 12, 2016 9:08 AM

    …….Imagine Joe, how many Super Bowl rings you might have had if you opted out of Cleveland?……somewhere along the line you have to get out of there……your wasting your talents in Cleveland.

  50. thetooloftools says: Feb 12, 2016 9:09 AM

    Playing QB for the Cleveland Browns will break even the strongest of men.

  51. rootpain says: Feb 12, 2016 9:18 AM

    Just one of many succumbing to Millennial Affluenza & Arrogance Syndrome. First CDC level five contagion ie, not only is there no cure and extremely contagious, but even non—entitled show systems of exposure.
    Has several differing manifestations. Can present with concussion like systems while in an inebriated state. Demands that security forces search for him by helicopter In other isolated cases, afflicted have been known to wear Gold cleats and break into obnoxious dance routines. But in all cases, afflicted show extreme signs of infantileism.
    Hey folks, its an election year. Make certain your political candidate is aware of MA&AS and is willing to support its cure.

  52. steelcurtainn says: Feb 12, 2016 9:20 AM

    Sad! What’s really sad is Joe Thomas has spent his entire career with the “Factory of sadness”. Come to a real team like the steelers joe. Manziel is probably jumping for joy he’ll be out of cleveland.

  53. laxer37 says: Feb 12, 2016 9:25 AM

    I think the Browns are being unfair to Johnny. He’s working on getting his life back on track.

    …but right after one more wild weekend bender in Vegas baby!!!!! Just one more!!!!! He promises this time.

  54. charliecharger says: Feb 12, 2016 9:34 AM

    Joe Thomas has seen a lot of coaches come and go, but nothing ever changes unless you have a good QB. I think this is a good year to need a QB, as quite a few good ones will be in this draft. Good luck Browns. Hope you get the right one, or at least, one of the right ones.

  55. joker65 says: Feb 12, 2016 9:38 AM

    A couple of summers ago before the Browns drafted Manziel, I was at Hilton Head Island and was getting a shuttle ride from the parking lot to the beach. The driver was nice girl from A&M. I asked her if she was excited about Manziel and the team for the fall. (I admit I didn’t know much about him them, just that he won the Heisman). She basically said the guy was a complete turd. Oh boy, was she right.

    True story.

  56. therealraider says: Feb 12, 2016 9:46 AM

    The Browns passed on Derek Carr 3 times.

  57. armchairqb says: Feb 12, 2016 9:54 AM

    What’s absurd is that this is EXACTLY how everyone predicted Manziel’s tenure at Cleveland would go. How could everyone here have foreseen this with such crystal clarity, but the Browns ownership did not!?

    It’s kinda nuts.

  58. chrisk61 says: Feb 12, 2016 9:54 AM

    the real culprit is the homeless guy who told haslam to draft manziel

  59. nhpats says: Feb 12, 2016 10:11 AM

    blackbeard43 says:
    Feb 12, 2016 2:33 AM
    Ah, yes. Whatever happened to Johnny Football?

    Well, he was once a sensation in the college gridiron and titillated imaginations of what kind of quarterback he could’ve been in the pros.

    Remember Robert Griffin III?

    ROBERT GRIFFIN THE THIRD!?

    remember him? Ah, I remember the collective ahhhhhhhh, of HIM.

    —————-

    I don’t see the comparison between RGIII and Manziel. First off, RGIII had a great rookie season and this may have continued had Shanahan not insisted he play with a torn ACL. Second, all of last season, despite being benched, RGIII handled himself with nothing but class. Moreover, I am unaware of any off-field issues with RGIII.

    How is any of this “Manziel like”?

  60. jonwill57 says: Feb 12, 2016 10:17 AM

    blackbeard43 says:
    Feb 12, 2016 2:33 AM
    Ah, yes. Whatever happened to Johnny Football?
    Well, he was once a sensation in the college gridiron and titillated imaginations of what kind of quarterback he could’ve been in the pros.
    Remember Robert Griffin III?
    ROBERT GRIFFIN THE THIRD!?
    remember him? Ah, I remember the collective ahhhhhhhh, of HIM.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    At least RGThree led his team to a division title. Injuries contributed to his early demise. There’s no comparison between these two other than they both played in Texas…where everything is made bigger than life…

  61. anarchopurplism says: Feb 12, 2016 10:18 AM

    twtom11 says:
    Feb 12, 2016 2:52 AM
    I’m certainly no Panthers fan but I find I’m amazed how Cam Newton is vilified for dabbing and having a good time, whilst with wife-beating, drunk-driving Manziel it’s always ‘a sad end’, ‘such a shame’, ‘he just needs some help’ etc
    ***********************************************************

    It is a shame that Cam dances when he wins & pouts when he loses.

    He needs help, just like my 4 yr old who is also growing up & needs to learn how to be a good sport.

  62. yooperman says: Feb 12, 2016 10:21 AM

    chrisk61 says:
    Feb 12, 2016 9:54 AM

    the real culprit is the homeless guy who told haslam to draft manziel

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    He was only homeless because Haslam stole his fuel rebates. That advice he gave was payback.

  63. metalup666 says: Feb 12, 2016 10:26 AM

    He’s not going to Dallas or anywhere except maybe rehab (again) or jail as far as I can tell.

  64. TheBrownsareClowns says: Feb 12, 2016 10:27 AM

    The Browns are clowns for a reason. Tom Brady couldnt win with the scrub WRs on the Browns and Johnny won 2 of the 3 games for them this year. Once Bradys weapons were all out with injury he couldnt even beat the Eagles.

    Once Johnny gets with an organization that doesnt treat their players like they are in High School like Jr. High ex HC Mike Pettine did, he will succeed.

    Johnny threw for 372 yards at Pittsburgh with garbage WRs. Get him some weapons that can make plays and anyone that needs a QB that doesnt pick him up is stupid. Everyone wants to trash him yet he can play. If he goes to Dallas he will soar

  65. cafetero1075 says: Feb 12, 2016 10:29 AM

    What happens when your owner listens to a homeless guy over the GM.

  66. dasheisenberg says: Feb 12, 2016 10:30 AM

    As a guy who moved from Texas to Cleveland, I think I cam say with certainty, and seriously, that he’ll do just fine when he gets out of this dumpster of a city.
    ___________________________________

    Cause Texas is ALL that…lol

  67. ravforlife says: Feb 12, 2016 10:33 AM

    Forget football, get your life in order before it’s to late.

  68. jerryyouradisgrace says: Feb 12, 2016 10:47 AM

    I think that even the cowboys…at this point won’t touch him

    However we have seen Jerry in action before…20+ years and counting

    a reluctant boys fan here

  69. steelerfan63 says: Feb 12, 2016 10:51 AM

    Joe is just mad that Johnny figured a way out of Cleveland and he is still stuck there.

  70. throwingstones20 says: Feb 12, 2016 11:57 AM

    Johnny OUTTA Football congratulations headcase.

  71. jmc8888 says: Feb 12, 2016 11:59 AM

    Sad… Yes. (though lots of stuff in this world are far sadder)

    Predictable…. YES (emphatically)

  72. td30 says: Feb 12, 2016 12:01 PM

    you were pretty dang close to being a bronco…

  73. swagger52 says: Feb 12, 2016 12:19 PM

    Note to self…

    When QB is dropping in the draft, and if you take him supposedly it is the “steal” of the draft, just DONT do it – just DONT do it.

  74. lapd11724 says: Feb 12, 2016 12:25 PM

    He was a loose canon in college and they along with the NCAA (autograph signing they did nothing about) did nothing to redirect his attitude. Cleveland has no one to blame but themselves for not doing enough homework on him before the draft. He has two choices: clean his act up and see if he can make it or go home and let his wealthy family enable him for the rest of his life, providing he doesn’t end in prison.

  75. thegonz13 says: Feb 12, 2016 1:06 PM

    Yes, it is a sad end but both Manziel AND the Browns brought this on themselves.

    The Browns obviously failed to do their due diligence on this spoiled brat, while Manziel kept displaying the maturity level of a 3 year-old.

    In fact, I’m not sure releasing him is the way to go about it. Cleveland threw away a draft pick on this idiot and maybe they can recoup that pick by trading Johnny Bonehead to, say, Dallas, especially considering how Jerrah is peeing his pyjamas every time he thinks about Manziel.

  76. easydog100 says: Feb 12, 2016 1:41 PM

    Joe…. you are a class person who has given your best over along tenure with the Browns. I have the utmost respect for your efforts…. wishing you and the team the best.

  77. jvw1982 says: Feb 12, 2016 3:17 PM

    When QB is dropping in the draft, and if you take him supposedly it is the “steal” of the draft, just DONT do it – just DONT do it.

    *******************************************************

    Thank God Green Bay didn’t listen to you…..

    Does Joe Thomas not have anything to do in the off season? does he wake in the morning and immediately call someone to give his opinion? Please stop quoting him……are we suppose to care what the spokesman, for the worst franchise in history has to say……shut up already……

  78. zebra95 says: Feb 12, 2016 3:46 PM

    He is doing everything he can to get out of Cleveland, the arrogant little entitled prick! If I was Browns management I would keep him on the roster out of spite, just not as a QB. I’d make him play special teams as a lead blocker on KO and punt returns as well as FG block. Absolutely no way I’d give into his ransom game!

  79. mymanotis says: Feb 12, 2016 3:56 PM

    The new Todd Marinovich / Ryan Leaf

  80. hammerhead993 says: Feb 12, 2016 5:57 PM

    He’s basically a younger version of Ryan Leaf isn’t he?

  81. concretejimmy52 says: Feb 12, 2016 6:37 PM

    Everytime I see a new article about Manziel I sit back and thank God Dave Caldwell didn’t buy into the hype of Johnny Football and went with Blake Bortles.
    Man for awhile before that draft I really wanted Manziel. Go Jags!…
    Really! You wanted Manziel? When the Jags drafted Bortles right before the Browns, I enjoyed watching Farmer butt fumble in the 1st round. And to think the Browns could have traded up with plenty of draft picks in this past draft for Winston or Mariotta to right the ship. Now they will probably use the #2 pick to draft another QB that might not be the right one of the top 3 prospects that are expected to go in the 1st round. Wow, I say. Maybe Hue Jackson will get a chance to fix the Browns. I think they should trade for McCarron who has two years left on his contract. I think he’s better than Dalton and the Bengals got him in the 5th ROUND. But the Bengals have no stake in trading their backup QB and maybe future of the franchise. Poor Browns fans. And Joey Bosa might be there at #2. Unless they move up in the 2nd round if a QB they might like is still on the board. Maybe Hue Jackson goes with McCown for now.

  82. concretejimmy52 says: Feb 12, 2016 6:41 PM

    Titans or Bucs probably didn’t want to part with their pick. Especially when they both needed a QB and Winston and Mariotta were top prospects. How does Manziel get drafted in the 1st round and McCarron falls all the way to the 5th? I thought he was at least a 3rd round prospect.

  83. cudatom says: Feb 12, 2016 11:24 PM

    mapedog1 you are freakin nuts. No where near every fan in Cleveland raved about drafting Manziel. There was actually a very large group that predicted this from day one and I was one of them. Now go back to your basement.

  84. pondbridge says: Feb 13, 2016 6:29 AM

    After Leaf and Russell, even phenomenal college talent only gets 3 chances. Manziel will get another chance with one of the Texas teams: a sober Manziel could start for the Texans in 2016. But he’ll blow that last chance unless he puts his sobriety first.

  85. trickbunny says: Feb 16, 2016 2:57 PM

    steelcurtainn says:
    Feb 12, 2016 9:20 AM

    Manziel is probably jumping for joy he’ll be out of cleveland.

    Out of Cleveland and straight into a job as used car salesman.

    Yes, I’m sure he’s ecstatic.

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