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Tomlinson, Taylor, Ward among next year’s Hall of Fame candidates

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The 2017 Pro Football Hall of Fame class will almost certainly feature at least a couple of players who were voted down this year, as next year’s list of first-time eligible players likely has just a few Hall of Famers.

LaDainian Tomlinson, Jason Taylor, Hines Ward, Brian Dawkins and Donovan McNabb are the best players who are eligible for the first time in 2017.

The league MVP in 2006, Tomlinson probably has the best chance in that group. Taylor was the defensive player of the year in 2006 and also has a solid chance. Dawkins was a nine-time Pro Bowler but will probably have to wait a few years before he’s inducted. McNabb was a good player but was never a first-team All-Pro or a Super Bowl winner, and it’s hard for a quarterback to get into the Hall of Fame without either of those honors.

Ward will be one of the most interesting arguments in the Hall of Fame selection committee meeting room next year. His stats aren’t as good as some receivers who have been voted down, like Terrell Owens and Isaac Bruce, but Ward was one of the best blocking receivers in the league, and Ward has a Super Bowl MVP award to his credit. We’ll see next year whether the selection committee values some of those other criteria over stats.

On Saturday, NFL Network published a list of potential Hall of Famers comprised of Tomlinson, Taylor, Ward, Dawkins, McNabb and Chad Johnson. I tweeted that Johnson has no chance of getting into the Hall of Fame: We’ve already seen the Hall of Fame selection committee vote down receivers with much better resumes than Johnson. When Ochocinco saw my tweet, he pointed out that he already inducted himself. Ochocinco belongs in the Hall of Fame of guys who don’t take themselves too seriously.

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  1. kuantan97 says: Feb 14, 2016 10:16 AM

    How Ward is even up for consideration, I’ll never know. You never got the feeling you were watching anything particularly great other than the ability to get in a good unseen cheap shot. Then again, I guess Ward is being considered for the same reason Bettis was.

  2. orange and blue owns the NFL says: Feb 14, 2016 10:16 AM

    Yes to LT, no to the rest.

    Ward belongs in the Dirtbag Hall of Fame.

  3. 12brichandfamous says: Feb 14, 2016 10:17 AM

    Ochocinco doomed himself with the duct tape Futute HOFer” on MNF. Dude does not understand that you campaigning for the nomination is fruitless. If you have to campaign, you don’t belong.

  4. tomthebombtracy says: Feb 14, 2016 10:21 AM

    Cue the Hines Haters but aside from being a SB MVP and twice SB champion and the 1,000 catches and the ability to block, Ward has something else going for him, I think.

    Born in Korea, he would be the first Korean-American and his story of facing bigotry from both blacks and whites because of his mixed race, would be compelling.

    A converted QB from Georgia with only average skills, he sure got every ounce of what talent he had.

  5. therealraider says: Feb 14, 2016 10:23 AM

    The Hall should be perserved for the best of the best, the Baseball hall is full of guys who shouldnt be there, soon Canton will be filled with mediocre players who simply had positive relationships with the media.

  6. 700levelvet says: Feb 14, 2016 10:23 AM

    After Dungy being inducted and Tom Flores not,and I’m no Raiders fan, but c’mon…does it really matter..it’s a joke

  7. bmorepositive123 says: Feb 14, 2016 10:24 AM

    Sometimes you have to go beyond the numbers. You have to measure a players leadership, quality, and how he affected not just his teammates but how opponents played. Brian Dawkins made everyone around him better. Can’t remember too many Giants or Cowboys willing to go across the middle that decade.

  8. coltzfan166 says: Feb 14, 2016 10:27 AM

    I just can’t see McNabb getting in

  9. amishninjas says: Feb 14, 2016 10:34 AM

    Minus the super bowl rings Chad Johnson has better numbers than Michael Irvin.

  10. youknowiknowitall says: Feb 14, 2016 10:35 AM

    Ward gets into the Pittsburgh Hall of Classless, Liars, Cheaters and Cheap Shot Artists on the first ballot for sure (despite a lot of competition). But Canton? I’d vote “no”.

  11. karebearlicious says: Feb 14, 2016 10:36 AM

    Whines Hard should get in on the ferocity and injuriousness of his blindside hits. Ask Keith Rivers’ jaw.

  12. pftcancer says: Feb 14, 2016 10:37 AM

    McNabb? Seriously? Say it ain’t so!

  13. All-American Voltron says: Feb 14, 2016 10:42 AM

    If Ward gets in it proves complete Steeler bias among the HOF. Ward was never elite in the NFL or even Top 5 in any season he played, and his numbers don’t support HOF caliber.

  14. raiderrob21 says: Feb 14, 2016 10:46 AM

    Tomlinson Yes, Dawkins has a shot down the road in time, and the rest no.

  15. raidernation37 says: Feb 14, 2016 10:47 AM

    The only player in this list that’s even a real choice is Hines Ward. The rest were good but not hall of fame material. Then again they put Dungy in there so I guess anyone can get in

  16. bullcharger says: Feb 14, 2016 10:47 AM

    Tomlinson is a first ballot guy and there isn’t a laundry list of guys coming after him at that position either.

  17. cinzano08 says: Feb 14, 2016 10:51 AM

    Hines ward in the HOF? How stupid is that.

  18. TheodoreBabyHandsBustAqua says: Feb 14, 2016 10:54 AM

    McNabb has zero business being in the same sentence as Tomlinson, Taylor, Ward or Dawkins. Tomlinson is easily the best of the bunch, followed by Dawkins, then Taylor and then finally Ward. All HOF worthy IMO, but McNabb? Get real.

  19. derekgorgonstar says: Feb 14, 2016 10:56 AM

    Cliff Harris.

  20. guideauthority says: Feb 14, 2016 10:57 AM

    Terrell Owens should be in the HOF twice before they even look at Hines Ward – a mediocre role-player that got way too much publicity on good teams. I know he played a long time, won a super bowl MVP and I respect that he embraced blocking.. I just don’t think he was ever one of the best WRs in the league, even during his prime.

  21. nothingman says: Feb 14, 2016 11:00 AM

    Hines Ward was an unbelievable football player, but what may keep him out of the Hall of Fame is people comparing him only to other wide receivers.

    I can see it taking a couple years, but hopefully a two-time Super Bowl champion, Super Bowl MVP, multiple Pro Bowler, 1000-catch player gets in, even if some critics are still sore from his aggressive blocking.

  22. coloradofort says: Feb 14, 2016 11:03 AM

    So what? After this years debacle the credibility is gone…..

  23. projectshadow316 says: Feb 14, 2016 11:03 AM

    Yeah, “Ochocinco” has no shot in hell. Ty Law better get nominated, and then get in. The guy absolutely deserves it.

  24. cebert44 says: Feb 14, 2016 11:04 AM

    Tomilson is nothing to write home about. He played on two good teams and brought nothing home.

  25. deacon85 says: Feb 14, 2016 11:07 AM

    I would put Tomlinson in the Hall. As a Pats fan, I never liked him and thought he was something of a whiner, but the man was supremely talented at running the ball.

  26. dryzzt23 says: Feb 14, 2016 11:09 AM

    Tomlinson maybe, Ward is a big maybe, none of the others.

    LC Greenwood must be elected, Bettis too.

    Today’s media is SOOOO enamored with stats that they cannot consider any other factors, nor do they have the capacity to consider the different eras that players played in.

  27. nothingman says: Feb 14, 2016 11:12 AM

    Tomlinson is a household name because of fantasy football. I respect his accomplishments, but he was really only dominant for a few years.

    How is that different from Terrell Davis? Who, by the way, won two Super Bowls along the way (and not because of John Elway).

  28. motleytrap says: Feb 14, 2016 11:12 AM

    “His stats aren’t as good as some receivers who have been voted down, like Terrell Owens and Isaac Bruce, but Ward was one of the best blocking receivers in the league, and Ward has a Super Bowl MVP award to his credit. We’ll see next year whether the selection committee values some of those other criteria over stats.”

    I’d be astonished if Ward got in and Bruce got left in the cold.

    I assume Owens could get in as early as next year, so just making the comparison between Ward and Bruce, Bruce has more catches, yards and TDs.
    He was a superb run blocker as well, in the company of Ward and Muhsin Muhammed.
    And while Ward had the Super Bowl MVP(5-123), Bruce actually had better numbers in his SB win(6-162) and the game winning TD.

    I give credit to Ward for maximum effort and getting the most out of his talent, but he can’t be the next WR in.

  29. nothingman says: Feb 14, 2016 11:14 AM

    dryzzt23 says:
    Feb 14, 2016 11:09 AM

    Tomlinson maybe, Ward is a big maybe, none of the others.

    LC Greenwood must be elected, Bettis too.

    —-

    Jerome Bettis got into the Hall of Fame in 2015

  30. factman66 says: Feb 14, 2016 11:20 AM

    Tomlinson and Taylor will get in without a doubt, Dawkins was an absolute beast but never got enough recognition and is borderline, Ward was a great possession wr and leader but I don’t think he gets in, and I can’t make any argument for McNabb being a HOFER.

  31. joker65 says: Feb 14, 2016 11:26 AM

    LT2 Yes. The rest? Meh.

    Theres plenty of guys who aren’t first year ballot who are clear cuts above the first year guys.

  32. kingpel says: Feb 14, 2016 11:27 AM

    Ward and Chad Johnson are going to have to sit around for awhile because no way they deserve to leap frog TO or Bruce.

  33. tonebones says: Feb 14, 2016 11:41 AM

    If there was ever anybody that deserves recognition, that didn’t play or coach, it would have to be long time 49ers GM John McVay. He has five super bowl rings. Three with Bill Walsh, two with George Seifert. Four with Montana, one with Steve Young. Many of the players they drafted while McVay was in charge are already in the HOF. More, like Roger Craig, could still get in. Ron Wolf and Bill Polian are in the HOF, yet McVay has more rings than those two combined. I think the HOF voters have lost their way.

  34. rav3nbav3n says: Feb 14, 2016 11:42 AM

    If Hines goes in then Chad Johnson should be in too. Hines was a good reciever for a long time, but Chad was top 2 at his peak, he just didn’t have the longetivity.

  35. bmacwillconn says: Feb 14, 2016 11:45 AM

    Think Hall of Fame voters have the fortitude to do what’s right and only nominate Tomlinson? The rest of this group should only get into the HOF if they purchase a ticket for admission like the general public does.

  36. joshr99164 says: Feb 14, 2016 11:45 AM

    If Darren Woodson hasn’t gotten in yet, there might not be too much hope for Dawkins…The HOF has no love for safeties.

  37. rav3nbav3n says: Feb 14, 2016 11:47 AM

    Because Chad Johnson didn’t take anything seriously, people forget how great he was in his prime. It was kind of sad for me to see him go.

  38. r8dernation says: Feb 14, 2016 11:56 AM

    Ward the best blocking WR? Who cares. I’ve never heard of a team going into the draft looking for a good blocking WR. That’s like putting a kicker into the hall because he was the best tackling kicker in the game. Sure, it’s part of his job, but he should be elite in the primary job functions, which Ward was not. But he was very good, just not elite. Besides, blocking downfield by receivers in this day and age is nothing more than legal holding. Anyone can hold well.

  39. abninf says: Feb 14, 2016 12:04 PM

    tomthebombtracy says:
    Feb 14, 2016 10:21 AM
    Cue the Hines Haters but aside from being a SB MVP and twice SB champion and the 1,000 catches and the ability to block, Ward has something else going for him, I think.

    Born in Korea, he would be the first Korean-American and his story of facing bigotry from both blacks and whites because of his mixed race, would be compelling.
    —————————————————————–

    Skin color is irrelevant.

  40. realfootballfan says: Feb 14, 2016 12:04 PM

    Dawkins and Ward are locks, but I suppose Ward will wait as we work our way through the 1 receiver every year list. I guess they’ll put T.O. in next year. It’d be funny if they put McNabb in with him, even though I personally don’t think McNabb is quite a Hall of Famer.

  41. trublazer says: Feb 14, 2016 12:06 PM

    out of that new group that are eligible…LT & Taylor

  42. runtheball says: Feb 14, 2016 12:07 PM

    Donavan McNabb may not even make the eagle’s HOF. Ward is a good argument against a guy with good stats and WRs in genreral. If your team throws it 40-50 times a game you are going to have the stats. Ward was a very good player, but I don’t think a defensive coordinator ever lost sleep thinking about how to stop him.

  43. enoughofthatalready says: Feb 14, 2016 12:13 PM

    All-American Voltron says:
    Feb 14, 2016 10:42 AM
    If Ward gets in it proves complete Steeler bias among the HOF. Ward was never elite in the NFL or even Top 5 in any season he played, and his numbers don’t support HOF caliber.


    Right because 1000 catches is not hall of fame caliber.

  44. florida76 says: Feb 14, 2016 12:17 PM

    Hines Ward was definitely included in the grouping of elite receivers during his peak years, the HOF has never been just about electing the Jerry Rices’ in the NFL. Even accounting for the era, Ward’s numbers do compare favorably with other HOF recivers.

    And as described by NFL Films, Ward did change the game. Took blocking to another level at the WR position, and it’s no coincidence blocking gained much more attention during his career.

    Also, more receptions than two other Steeler HOF receivers, and is the franchise leader in the categories. Outstanding postseason player, and a solid hall of famer.

  45. enoughofthatalready says: Feb 14, 2016 12:19 PM

    Ward was really the first Wr in the modern era to become a key blocker for an offense. He sacrificed his body on running plays when most Wrs just stand around and considering his size, that is unheard of. Add in 1000 catches, 10000 yards, 85 tds and the championships and super bowl mvp, he will get in. Having said that, I doubt he gets in ahead of Isaac Bruce or Torry Holt. Ward will have to wait 5 years, but he will get in.

  46. igornathanhiggers says: Feb 14, 2016 12:22 PM

    Why is Hines Ward even up for consideration?

    It took Art Monk almost 20 years to get in despite being the all time leader in receptions when he retired.

    Art Monk does have 17 fewer TD’s and 60 fewer catches, but he does have more yards, more Superbowl rings, and he’s actually been an All Pro. He’s also part of the NFL 80’s decade team.

    Did i mention Monk was the all time leader in catches when he retired? What was Hines Ward the leader of when he retired? If it took Monk 20 years to get in, how the hell is Hines Ward supposed to get in?

  47. enoughofthatalready says: Feb 14, 2016 12:23 PM

    r8dernation says:
    Feb 14, 2016 11:56 AM
    Ward the best blocking WR? Who cares. I’ve never heard of a team going into the draft looking for a good blocking WR. That’s like putting a kicker into the hall because he was the best tackling kicker in the game. Sure, it’s part of his job, but he should be elite in the primary job functions, which Ward was not. But he was very good, just not elite. Besides, blocking downfield by receivers in this day and age is nothing more than legal holding. Anyone can hold well.

    Ward was drafted initially to be a key special teams player. His willingness to sacrifice himself and his toughness on the field earned him a starting Wr job. 1000 catches, 10000 yards, 85 tds. Not as great as Tim Brown but Ward had other attributes that propel him into Hall of Fame discussion.

  48. oldschoolomen says: Feb 14, 2016 12:33 PM

    The Steelers wheeled Ward out to collect number 1,000 and then promptly never threw him the ball again. Ward had a knack for the endzone and was a great role player, but never among the league’s elite WRs. The WR log jam will keep Ward out initially, and then the next crop of receivers (Fitzgerald, megaton, Andre Johnson, etc) will keep him out for good.

    For everyone saying Dawkins isn’t a lock, check his stats. Put them up against Ed Reed’s and Troy Polamalu’s and let the stats tell you who the best safety of that class really is. Tomlinson and Dawkins are locks, although maybe not first ballot guys.

    Johnson/Ochocinco has no shot. His persona completely overshadowed how insanely talented he was and his prime was too brief.

  49. ovaw8lova says: Feb 14, 2016 12:37 PM

    LT is a first ballot HOF. Jason Taylor will get in at some point but will have to wait a few years. Heck, it took Kevin Greene forever. If Hines Ward gets in before T.O or Jason Taylor I will be beside myself.

  50. docraider says: Feb 14, 2016 12:40 PM

    After Dungy being inducted and Tom Flores not,and I’m no Raiders fan, but c’mon…does it really

    Perfect ^^^

  51. classyjacklambert says: Feb 14, 2016 12:46 PM

    Ward is a lock but maybe not a first rounder just because of the log jam at wr. If you’re going by stats alone, no question TO should get in before him. If you’re going by what they contributed to a team championship, then it is Hines Ward by a mile.

  52. tebowislife says: Feb 14, 2016 12:54 PM

    Hines Ward is the most overrated WR of the last 25 years. There are about 30 WR that should be in the hall of fame before him. So tired of hearing about his blocking. Do Randall and Vick get in the HOF because they were the best running QB’s? Does Chris Johnson get in because he had the fastest combine time?

    WR are there to catch passes and Hines Ward was only better than average at that.

  53. dimi1919 says: Feb 14, 2016 1:10 PM

    I don’t know if Ward deserves it or not but he had better numbers than Michael Irvin. Just one less ring. And those of you saying he was fortunate to be on some good teams have to consider that he had Kordell Stewart, Kent Graham, and Tommy Maddox throwing him the ball for the first half of his career.

  54. foolsgoldstandard says: Feb 14, 2016 1:34 PM

    Really pulling for Dawkins. The guy was not only a great player but a class act off the field. Perfect candidate for NFL immortality.

  55. edelmanfanclub says: Feb 14, 2016 1:35 PM

    LT first ballot likely. Dawk & Taylor sometime in the future. McNabb maybe a later point in time, he’s very borderline. Ward in and not Owens? That’s a joke. But so is the HOF

  56. jgammell34 says: Feb 14, 2016 1:39 PM

    Ward deserves to be in but it will be some time before that happens he is going to have to wait.

    I agree wholeheartedly with this.

    “Hines Ward was an unbelievable football player, but what may keep him out of the Hall of Fame is people comparing him only to other wide receivers stats.

    I can see it taking a couple years, but hopefully a two-time Super Bowl champion, Super Bowl MVP, multiple Pro Bowler, 1000-catch player gets in, even if some critics are still sore from his aggressive blocking.”

    I think though it will be longer than a couple years before he is considered though.

  57. lingsun54 says: Feb 14, 2016 1:54 PM

    Drew Pearson from the 70s Cowboys deserves to be there. So does Roger Craig from the 80s 49ers.

  58. 6superbowls says: Feb 14, 2016 2:00 PM

    Whines Hard should get in on the ferocity and injuriousness of his blindside hits. Ask Keith Rivers’ jaw.
    ————————-
    Sounds like you’re an expert on “Whines”?

  59. dirtdawg54 says: Feb 14, 2016 2:01 PM

    I understand people saying Ward may not be HOF calibre. But to say he was never “elite” is simply ignorant. he was a four time Pro Bowler. He finished in the top ten in yards and Tds three times in his career and receptions four times. Over a 16 game season he average 84 receptions, 1017 yards and 7 TDs. In the playoffs he put together one fill season of starts and put up 88 receptions for 1,181 yards and 10 Tds, one of the few receivers to improve during the playoffs. And he did that whole playing in the 2009 SB with a torn MCL.

    He was arguably the toughest blocker of his time at his position – and if you say that doesn’t matter you clearly don’t know anything about football.

    So yes, we can debate if he belongs. I’m biased, because I’m a Steelers fan, and I’d like to see him in there. And I understand the arguments against him. But to say he wasn’t elite or one of the best? That just proves to me you are equally biased.

  60. buckethead1 says: Feb 14, 2016 2:04 PM

    Hines Ward was a better football player than a receiver..2x SB champ and once mvp…He deserves to be in, even more so than TO….

  61. noteamforlosangeles says: Feb 14, 2016 2:07 PM

    Not knowing the overtime rules should be enough to disqualify McNabb. Failing to throw for 40 yards in an entire game, plus the DUI arrest doesn’t help, either.

  62. dynastyposeiden says: Feb 14, 2016 2:07 PM

    the fact that is thread is filled with hate for hines ward proves that he is a hall of famer , top 15 in catches a devastating blocker and 2 lombardis and ask any of those defenders they will tell you about the respect/fear they had when playing the steelers . In an era where defense doled out all the punishment & concussions #86 a 5’11’ 195 LB dude evened the score and people are here crying about cheap shots . HILARIOUS , go ahead and fetch yer panty liners and watch the bachelor !

  63. burgboy82 says: Feb 14, 2016 2:28 PM

    Tomlinson gets in first ballot no questions asked. Taylor and Dawkins get in eventually. No to Ward and McNabb.

  64. genericcommenter says: Feb 14, 2016 2:28 PM

    Chad Johnson isn’t a HOFer, but he is a notable first time eligible player because he played a decade plus and put up numbers ( 6 straight 1000 yard seasons is notable). He was a 1st team all-Pro, too. If he played 2-3 more seasons at his high level, and had been good enough with the Patriots to stick and win a SB, he would be in the discussion. He’s a “hall of very good” guy who out up numbers mostly for 1 team, and that counts for something.

  65. sbrannonjr says: Feb 14, 2016 2:34 PM

    The Ward hit on Rivers was completely legal, even by today’s rules. It’s a football field. It helps to NOT have tunnel vision. All the Bungles are out in force crying as usual.

  66. obesedude says: Feb 14, 2016 2:37 PM

    I’m with most who think LDT should be a shoe-in and the others, only a possibility. I don’t think you’ll get much criticism of Ward beyond the comments section here though. Like most, I question if he is a HOFer but I think he still works for NBC sports so the chances his HOF credentials get analyzed in a critical fashion is unlikely on any NBC media platform.

  67. genericcommenter says: Feb 14, 2016 2:40 PM

    For QBs, there are a lot of pretty good ones who aren’t even close. It takes crazy stats plus rings, usually. I mean, Phil Simms was pretty good and has 2 rings* , 2 Pro Bowls, and a Super Bowl MVP and passing record, but I don’t think he was ever close. McNabb’s numbers are fairly similar (especially when considering the high offense/pass-happy era) without rings.

    I’d put Kurt Warner in. He had 2 high peaks, the 1st one sustained for a few years at an all-time elite level, followed by a career-ending 2nd peak of 3 great years, and made it to Super Bowls in 2 different eras. And his career started 6 years later than almost everyone else.

    * He was injured for the second one, but led them to a 10-0 start and put up numbers w/ high efficiency before he got hurt.

  68. cinzano08 says: Feb 14, 2016 2:55 PM

    Ward shouldn’t be in, all he does is whine how he couldn’t beat the patriots in the playoffs. Excuse making dirty players should not be in hall.

  69. stash918 says: Feb 14, 2016 2:55 PM

    It’s baffling why the HOF ignores safeties. Darren Woodson and Steve Atwater deserve to be in as the best of their era, and Dawkins does too eventually. Three of the best safeties to ever play the position should be in!

  70. jmack1979 says: Feb 14, 2016 3:11 PM

    1000 catches is a solid number . Doing it in one of the last real “smash mouth run the ball down your throat ” offenses makes it outstanding .

    To say that he was never dominant is an asinine statement that shows a clear lack of knowledge of the game . When the ball was thrown to him he made the catch . Damn near every time . Opposing teams feared Hines Ward on 3rd down . The fact he was willing to become such a fierce blocker because the teams offensive philosophy was to run the ball and smack th opponents in the mouth was simply a bonus .
    He stepped up in the playoffs which is clearly something a HOF player does and has a SB MVP to prove that . Ward is clearly a HOF player but their are several others waiting to get in ahead of him (TO, Bruce , ect) His accomplishments are no doubt going to get him in but he wil have to wait his turn .

    LT on the other hand will be a first ballot guy. Best at his position for half a generation .

  71. TebowedOutOfThePostSeasonAndNeverToReturn says: Feb 14, 2016 3:21 PM

    Should the HOF should create a separate category for dirty players? As more Steelers retire, I feel like this issue is going to keep coming up.

  72. coloradofort says: Feb 14, 2016 3:36 PM

    abninf says:
    Feb 14, 2016 12:04 PM
    tomthebombtracy says:
    Feb 14, 2016 10:21 AM
    Cue the Hines Haters but aside from being a SB MVP and twice SB champion and the 1,000 catches and the ability to block, Ward has something else going for him, I think.

    Born in Korea, he would be the first Korean-American and his story of facing bigotry from both blacks and whites because of his mixed race, would be compelling.
    —————————————————————–

    Skin color is irrelevant.

    Not as stated by SI.com writer Peter King in justifying the Tony Dungy election.

  73. 202folife says: Feb 14, 2016 3:43 PM

    LT and JT yes, the rest can wait and Ward/Ocho have no shot.

  74. handsofsteelhartofstone says: Feb 14, 2016 4:33 PM

    If you don’t think Hines Ward belongs in canton, you simply don’t know what the game of football is all about.

    Ask Killer Ray if Hines belongs in the hall

  75. orivar says: Feb 14, 2016 4:38 PM

    “Credibility is gone” “HOF is a joke”

    Joe Namath is in the HOF. It’s more than a numbers thing as his weren’t that special.

  76. orivar says: Feb 14, 2016 4:40 PM

    Hines Ward is a HOF player. Most of the guys that use PFT severely don’t understand the game.

  77. jxt2521 says: Feb 14, 2016 4:52 PM

    They should use salary for comparing players at the same position. if you couldn’t get top 5 at your position at least once then clearly you were not a HOF caliber guy.

    It shouldn’t be that hard to do this but the gatekeepers seem to have their own bias.

  78. PFT loves the Steelers says: Feb 14, 2016 5:15 PM

    Chad Johnson:
    6x Pro Bowler
    4x All-Pro
    4x Led AFC in receiving
    Was consistently a top 5 NFL WR during his prime
    Averaged 67 yards per game for his career

    Hines Ward:
    4x Pro Bowler
    Never an All-Pro
    Never led AFC in receiving
    Was often the #2 WR on his own team (behind Burress, Wallace, etc)
    Averaged 56 yards per game for his career

    Ward will get in, mainly because he’s a Steeler and he has the bulk career numbers thanks to hanging around well past his prime.

    Chad won’t get in because he’s a Bengal and he didn’t get to hang around after his prime and pad his stats.

  79. pixelito says: Feb 14, 2016 5:25 PM

    Amani Toomer should get in because I like the Giants

  80. rjpats says: Feb 14, 2016 6:29 PM

    Tomlinson, sure, because he was the best of his era (early 2000s). Jason Taylor absolute yes. A dominant force for over a decade. The rest are all no. Maybe Dawkins if they run out of other guys to put in

  81. bchap17 says: Feb 14, 2016 6:41 PM

    rida76 says:
    Feb 14, 2016 12:17 PM
    Hines Ward was definitely included in the grouping of elite receivers during his peak years
    —————————————-
    LIES!

    Hines Ward gets in and the Hall of Fame loses all credibility.

    McNabb, like Cunningham, needed a ring to solidify his spot. Tomlinson is a no brainer 1st ballot guy.

  82. corky2141 says: Feb 14, 2016 7:13 PM

    Hines will get in, but not for a long, long time. Like Kevin Greene long or old head committee.
    LT gets in next year with TO, Kurt Warner, & Alan Faneca.
    Dawkins waits a few seasons but gets his in next 3 years, JT sits for 13 seasons wondering what else he had to do cause he was a 1 trick pony with 1 dominant season (like Greene).
    85 never gets in because he was all the headache of TO but nowhere near the out put on the field.

  83. dallasgoon says: Feb 14, 2016 7:39 PM

    Tomlinson was somewhat of a compiler, but people love him, so he’ll get in. The rest are borderline.

    Agree with another poster who mentioned the lost credibility of HoF voters. Leaving T.O. out was atrocious, and it exposed them as being petty and biased.

  84. jvw1982 says: Feb 14, 2016 7:57 PM

    Ward was good but not HOF worthy, I would love him on my team but he wasn’t the best at his position at anytime during his career……LD should get in, not sure he is a first ballot and Taylor gets in, not sure he is first ballot…..the rest with the exception of Dawkins, not good enough for the HOF

  85. Angry Orange Man says: Feb 14, 2016 8:09 PM

    Tony Dungy is a HOFer and Warren Sapp got in before Michael Strahan. Those two incidents have stripped all credibility from the HOF imo.

  86. Moudabo says: Feb 15, 2016 8:39 AM

    ” It’s baffling why the HOF ignores safeties.
    Darren Woodson and Steve Atwater deserve to be in
    as the best of their era, and Dawkins does too eventually.
    Three of the best safeties to ever play the position should be in! ”

    Agreed. They should give the nod and show more respect to the Safeties –
    Starting with Donnie Shell first. It is way overdue.

    Devastating tackler with great coverage skills.
    Longevity – played in 201 games.
    4 time SuperBowl champion
    3 time All-Pro selection
    5 time Pro Bowl selection
    51 career INT’s

    Time to do away with this bias against Safeties and
    get Donnie Shell in Canton where he belongs.

  87. Moudabo says: Feb 15, 2016 10:19 AM

    Hines Ward can’t be appreciated by the fantasy football crowd.
    Stats are fine, but one has to understand the game within the game
    to fully appreciate what he brought to the field.

    Ward wasn’t a mere WR, he was a complete football player. A leader
    and a ferocious competitor. A WR who first earned his stripes on ST’s.
    The guy was simply clutch. A playmaker and money on third downs.

    His stats are good, but not eye popping. Though his devastating blocking
    contributed to more YAC’s for his fellow Wr’s, and yards after contact
    for his RB’s, than he ever gained on his own. Hidden yardage and effort.

    It’s this hidden yardage, the instincts, effort, leadership and finally, his
    production that when all is added up, makes me believe his a sure-fire HOF.

    No player did more, with less. And he did all this, with no ACL in one knee.

    If I was a GM starting a team, I’d take Ward over the more talented, but
    big headache, that was T.O.. To me, it’s not all that close. I bet four of
    T.O.’s former teams would agree.

  88. bachslunch says: Feb 21, 2016 8:36 AM

    LaDanian Tomlinson will be the only first ballot player of the bunch and he deserves to be elected. Same with Jason Taylor and Brian Dawkins though they’ll wait a few years. No way on Donovan McNabb. Hines Ward may or may not get in and I’m not that sold on his candidacy, certainly not over Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, Sterling Sharpe, or Henry Ellard. There’s clearly some “narrative” attached to Ward’s case which might help get him in, deserved or not. The poster above who mentioned postseason honors re Ward and Johnson is largely correct: the former was never a 1st team all pro and went to 4 pro bowls, while the latter was a 1st team all pro twice (not 4 times) and went to 6 pro bowls — which suggests Johnson had a better peak.

  89. bachslunch says: Feb 21, 2016 9:12 AM

    Donnie Shell has a HoF argument, but he’s not even first priority among Seniors snubs at his position. Here’s a list of eligibles at the position with postseason honors, ranked at about the level I think they deserve to get in:

    Johnny Robinson 6/7/allAFL
    Kenny Easley 4/5/80s
    Jimmy Patton 5/5/none
    Cliff Harris 4/6/70s
    Bobby Dillon 5/4/none
    Eddie Meador 3/6/60s
    Joey Browner 4/6/80s (will join this group next year)
    Deron Cherry 3/6/80s
    Donnie Shell 3/5/none

    Ken Crippen’s film study site has scores for Robinson, Dillon, and Meador. Robinson scored 8.2, the best of any player at this site, while the others were about mid-pack at 7.7. I don’t see any rationale that says Shell deserves to jump the line ahead of any of these folks, but he’s at least got some kind of case.

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