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Spanos on SD stadium: We’ll do whatever we need to do

SAN DIEGO, CA - MAY 11:  NFL Rookie Ladarius Green #89 of the San Diego Chargers holds his helmet at arms length after participating in drills during a minicamp workout on May 11, 2012 in San Diego, California. (Photo by Kent C. Horner/Getty Images) Getty Images

The Chargers are going to be in San Diego for the 2016 season and they’re making a renewed effort toward getting a new stadium in the city that will keep them there for many more years to come.

They’ve hired Fred Maas to head up the efforts to get a yes from the public on a ballot measure to secure public financing for the stadium to go along with money from the league and the team. Chargers chairman Dean Spanos told Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune that hiring Maas is part of a push to do “the best I can” to make sure a deal gets done before next January’s deadline to decide on moving to Los Angeles.

“Whatever we need to do, we’re going to do what we need to do to get this done,” Spanos said. “We’re trying as hard as we can. I can’t do it myself. It’s going to take the effort of the mayor; politically we need support. The business community needs to step up. I think once we have a definitive plan in place they’ll get behind us and support us. It has to economically make sense for the voters, and I think (the business community) will help make that case down the line and they’ll support us.”

Spanos acknowledged that a better on-field product will help those efforts — “4-12 isn’t going to help much” — and said that the prospect of less revenue in San Diego than he might realize in L.A. isn’t a big factor because success in the NFL “really comes down to the expertise of your general manager, player personnel, coach.” While there’s no guarantee that the efforts will lead to an agreement, Spanos is sending a different message than the one the team was sending last year and that shouldn’t hurt as all interested parties work toward a new stadium plan.

Chargers coach Mike McCoy is joining us on PFT Live on Wednesday morning (you can watch on NBCSN in addition to listening on NBC Sports Radio) and we’ll ask him about whether the uncertainty about the team’s ultimate home is going to be an issue when it comes to attracting free agents that could help improve their record.

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67 Responses to “Spanos on SD stadium: We’ll do whatever we need to do”
  1. jjackwagon says: Feb 17, 2016 8:39 AM

    “We’ll do whatever we need to do.”

    Okay then Deano, how about you pony up the money to build your team a new stadium WITHOUT holding the city hostage for money?

  2. kwjsb says: Feb 17, 2016 8:46 AM

    If they all took paycuts to under 6 figures, sure they would struggle to feed their families, they could pay for the stadium themselves in 5 years

  3. steelerben says: Feb 17, 2016 8:48 AM

    “Forget you guys, we’re going to LA…..

    …j/k LOL. Money, please.”

  4. cobrala2 says: Feb 17, 2016 8:48 AM

    It’s SO hard to imagine how the Spanoseses’s fumbled this one.

    ………

  5. grogansheroes says: Feb 17, 2016 8:58 AM

    I don’t understand why you would pay a $550m hostage fee to move 90 miles away where there are no fans, instead of using that $550m to build a new stadium.

  6. ctiggs says: Feb 17, 2016 9:01 AM

    Our 5 rings allow us to do what we want.

  7. jimmyt says: Feb 17, 2016 9:07 AM

    Jerry Jones unleashed the Kroenke and the NFL will never be the same. Sadly.

  8. raidordie says: Feb 17, 2016 9:13 AM

    Must have been a tough pill to swallow when your lackeys inform you your team has ZERO fan base outside of your small market. Honestly is there a charger bar located anywhere outside of San Diego? In there even a single charger bar IN San Diego?

  9. harrisonhits2 says: Feb 17, 2016 9:15 AM

    Not only do these walking bags of greed have the normal vast revenues of the league to pay for stadiums, they are now making billions more from their shadow ownership of the daily fantasy sites.

    Not one stinking penny of public money should ever go to building an NFL stadium again.

  10. zerotrophiessince1961 says: Feb 17, 2016 9:16 AM

    This schmuck got screwed by an even bigger schmuck that was in St. Louis until last month. Tax dollars should NOT be used to fund stadiums. The owners are the ones who are going to profit – especially if you consider the 100% tax funded traffic infrastructure costs associated with a new stadium as part of the deal.

    Owners of pro sports franchises are such turds….

  11. newencinitasnetwork says: Feb 17, 2016 9:20 AM

    This is nonsense; Spanos is known for making terrible decisions; Bobby Beathard over Bobby Ross, General Manager A.J. Smith over Marty Schottenheimer after 14 and 2; and last month’s incredibly humiliating dressing-down by his fellow owners telling him to tag along with Stank K. in L.A.

    The Spanos’ had all their liquidity in land during the recent recession and couldn’t get liquid for years. They are terrible business-people; AND they burnt their bridges over the last 3 years by being completely dishonest with the fans; plus, Vincent Jackson, Darren Sproles, Drew Brees and a ton of other good players A.J. wouldn’t pay because their money was tied up in local real-estate.

    The Convention Center/Hotel Cartel controls the Charger’s future; the fans want the new stadium in Mission Valley and Spanos wants it downtown; plus he wants the public to pay for it AND it is much more expensive! In 6 months, watch Spanos turn tail and head for L.A. where no one really wants him. The local fans love Rivers, but the moment we believed he was on his way to L.A., Derrick Carr was receiving almost immediate civic-love; tell Mark Davis, the original P.F. Chang’s is in University City just inland from La Jolla; it has a grand bar that he can use for an office and great cell phone reception.

    Watching our 2 longtime opponents, Elway and Manning turn it around in 2 years proves it can be done; by the 1994 Superbowl isn’t recalled by over half the current fans. Watching Jamal Charles go down for the year and then the Chiefs break off a streak of 9 games; sickening! McCoy, Melvin Gordon, Telesco… pass the tagamet, please.

  12. ravensfan56 says: Feb 17, 2016 9:21 AM

    No one likes you, Spanos. Sell the team. I am sick of professional sports owners who screw over the fans.

  13. savethebs says: Feb 17, 2016 9:21 AM

    I don’t understand why you would pay a $550m hostage fee to move 90 miles away where there are no fans, instead of using that $550m to build a new stadium.

    ——————————————–

    This. It would cost more than $550M but this is a HUGE dent in the amount it would take. I think if he pledged the first $550M he’d get a lot more support from the city to get a deal done.

  14. raiderrob21 says: Feb 17, 2016 9:23 AM

    The demands from Kronke to share the stadium are obviously ridiculous, forcing the Chargers to make one last ditch effort to make something happen in San Diego. If he cant get the tax payers to pay for his stadium in SD he goes with his tail tucked between his legs to LA as a stepchild clearly taking a back seat to the Rams and clearly not getting the money that the Rams will be raking in. The one good thing is his franchise value will almost double in LA.

  15. buccan33rz1976 says: Feb 17, 2016 9:28 AM

    Raiders to LA after Oakland lease is up.. No chance Oakland builds anything. Baseball or football…. Davis is too stubborn to sell portion of team and the LA transition is just too easy.

  16. intrafinesse says: Feb 17, 2016 9:37 AM

    1. How much does it cost to build a stadium cost in San Diego?

    2. How much of that can be raised via PSLs?

    3. How much from naming rights and corporate sponsors?

    4. How much is San Diego putting in?

    5. How much is the NFL contributing? (is it a grant that doesn’t need to be paid back, or a loan, that Spanos has to repay?)

    6. Given that Kroenke has been active lining up sponsors and a new fan base, how much will the second team get from left overs?

    7. Moving costs $550 in relocation fees, right? (or is it 650?)

    Given 1-7, it seems that it should be possible to get a stadium deal done in San Diego. Maybe it won’t be as profitable as being in LA, but Spanos would have to pay 550 (or 650 or whatever the relocation fee is). He may get more revenue than in San Diego, but wont the lions share go to the Rams? It’s not going to be 50-50 because the Chargers don’t have the fan base there.

    Given the cash flows is it really worth moving?

    One more point – if the Chargers were well run, and would compete for a wild card berth, wouldn’t they sell more tickets and get more in PSL fees?

  17. charliecharger says: Feb 17, 2016 9:39 AM

    Just get it done and keep the Chargers in San Diego. Geez!

  18. ontboltfan says: Feb 17, 2016 9:39 AM

    Not sure why this is such an outrage. Even Jerry World was ~ 30% publicly funded and it is a much larger market.

    Problem is corporate sponsor revenue or a lack of. A problem that wouldn’t exist in LA.

  19. vetdana says: Feb 17, 2016 9:43 AM

    THE CHARGERS WELL NOT BE SUPPORTED IN LA !
    Spanos , the League and Most of all, the Fans Know that.
    To move the team to LA would be ” Finis ” The End !

  20. pastabelly says: Feb 17, 2016 9:45 AM

    Spanos isn’t going to LA because he would have to pay a $500 million relocation fee and another $300 million to Kroenke. If San Diego offers him a decent deal, he would be a fool to turn it down at the risk of becoming the “other” LA team. Mark Davis also won’t be doling out $800 million.

  21. mogogo1 says: Feb 17, 2016 9:53 AM

    We’ll do whatever we need to do… except pay for it ourselves.

    This is like a panhandler on the side of the road who won’t ever look for a job but is willing to draw up an easier to read sign.

  22. pftfan says: Feb 17, 2016 10:05 AM

    It’s funny how we don’t hear calls to drug test these billionaires before we give them millions in taxpayer welfare.

  23. intrafinesse says: Feb 17, 2016 10:05 AM

    >>Jerry Jones unleashed the Kroenke and the NFL will never be the same. Sadly.

    Not a Jerry fan, but why is moving back to LA bad for the NFL?

    It’s a shame that St. Louis lost their team. And it seems that there is a high concentration of teams in 2 areas of CA (SF + Oakland, Chargers & Rams ). But those areas have a large population and can support it.

    What I want to know is how does having a team in LA make the owner more money than having the same stadium in St Louis?
    1 – higher ticket prices, of which 40% is shared with the league, and there are just 10 games (2 pre-season). Plus playoffs- assuming you have a team good enough to get a home game.

    2 – food/beverage sales & parking. You make more, but how much more?

    3 – Jersey sales and other misc items. I think teh league gets a big cut of this.

    TV revenue is shared.

    So how much additional revenue does a team in LA make compared to St. Louis? 50MM/year? 100MM/year?
    What is the extra cost? 550MM up front. What else?
    If it costs 550MM to move and you make 50MM/year more, is it really that beneficial to move? Maybe marginally.

    I can see one big incentive to move to LA. If you can get enormous PSL revenue, maybe thats enough to swing the deal. That extra 200MM + sponsors may make the LA deal viable.

  24. ebhaynz says: Feb 17, 2016 10:09 AM

    Okay, how many NFL owners actually paid for their stadiums?

    Jerry Jones and who else?

  25. araidersfan says: Feb 17, 2016 10:14 AM

    Looks like Spanos is smartening up about the reality of moving to a proven NFL graveyard like Los Angeles.

    Unfortunately Son-of-Al still lives in his father’s delusion that La-la land is some kind of ‘gold mine’.

  26. stl45fan says: Feb 17, 2016 10:30 AM

    Surprised Spanos can even talk will all the Back Stabs he got from StanK and the NFL Office!

  27. vegasgreek says: Feb 17, 2016 10:35 AM

    BLOW CHARGERS BLOW !

  28. Getoffmylawn! says: Feb 17, 2016 10:35 AM

    Didn’t the 49’ers just move out of San Francisco? Where is their relocation money? How far can you move your team without paying the relocation fee?

  29. pixelito says: Feb 17, 2016 10:36 AM

    You can always go surfing!

  30. dontouchmyjunk says: Feb 17, 2016 10:38 AM

    Feelin’ the Bern yet, Deano? You’re exactly what he’s been harping on about. Corporate welfare. You need a good swift kick in the butt, Spanos, not a taxpayer subsidized stadium!

  31. whoareyoutoquestionme says: Feb 17, 2016 10:39 AM

    Put the new stadium on the beach with hundreds of Corona bars, fish taco stands and the legalization of marijuana and maybe SD has a chance. Oh, you might consider having a winning product every now and then.

  32. patsbrat says: Feb 17, 2016 10:45 AM

    ebhaynz says:
    Feb 17, 2016 10:09 AM

    Okay, how many NFL owners actually paid for their stadiums?

    Jerry Jones and who else?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Robert Kraft

  33. patsbrat says: Feb 17, 2016 10:47 AM

    Whatever percentage of public funds used for a stadium should result in the city / state having the same percentage of ownership in the stadium, including all profits including PSLs.

    Talk about taxation without representation…

  34. rolltide510 says: Feb 17, 2016 10:59 AM

    I’ll bet it’s a lot more fun to write self righteous blog comments about public money funding stadiums then it is to watch your team pack up and move.

  35. ebhaynz says: Feb 17, 2016 11:02 AM

    Intrafinesse quote: “So how much additional revenue does a team in LA make compared to St. Louis? ”

    With a team and stadium in L.A. the sky’s the limit. Kroenke’s new stadium will host Super Bowl’s. He’ll be playing with the biggest boys on the block by having the NFL Network in his own stadium complex. He won’t have any trouble getting coaches/players to come to L.A. opposed to dreary St. Louis.

    More money, more glitz, more glamour, more attention, more Super Bowls. More. more. more.

  36. PriorKnowledge says: Feb 17, 2016 11:04 AM

    1. How much does it cost to build a stadium cost in San Diego?

    Stadium costs now are $1 to 2 Billion

    2. How much of that can be raised via PSLs?

    About 40% of 1st few years revenue

    3. How much from naming rights and corporate sponsors?

    Not much in the scheme of things $500K to 3 mil per year

    4. How much is San Diego putting in?
    Nothing yet. That is to be decided. I think $300 mil should be more than enough. $200 mil probably. $100 mil, not enough

    5. How much is the NFL contributing? (is it a grant that doesn’t need to be paid back, or a loan, that Spanos has to repay?)
    $350 mil from NFL

    6. Given that Kroenke has been active lining up sponsors and a new fan base, how much will the second team get from left overs?
    This is the $64 dollar question. LA is more than twice as big as SD. 2nd largest metro area in US. Rams started in LA. Still have plenty of loyal fans. But 25% of SD fans are in LA. So how good is your crystal ball?

    7. Moving costs $550 in relocation fees, right? (or is it 650?)

  37. chipper41 says: Feb 17, 2016 11:05 AM

    Remember when it was a lock the Chargers were joining the kronk in la? Just 30 short days ago. Spanos got outclassed by his fellow owners on the la move just like he gets outclassed in the front office and on the field. This is not a surprise. The man literally has no choice but to try and win back San Diego. The other choice is play in front of 10000 fans of the visiting team as a tenant in Los Angeles.

    I don’t think dean has the personality or savvy needed to win back San Diego.

  38. pastabelly says: Feb 17, 2016 11:06 AM

    ebhaynz says:
    Feb 17, 2016 10:09 AM
    Okay, how many NFL owners actually paid for their stadiums?

    Jerry Jones and who else?
    ========================================
    Someone mentioned Kraft, but you could include Mara, Tisch, and Johnson as well. They all paid 100% of the new stadium cost. Jerry Jones paid for 2/3. Taxpayers foot the bill for the rest of his.

  39. bosb88 says: Feb 17, 2016 11:11 AM

    I don’t understand how a modern day NFL stadium costs $900 million plus. Not even 16 years ago we had stadiums being built for less than half that cost.

    San Diego does not need a retractable roof, so why can’t they get a nice new 65,000 seat stadium for under $600 million?

  40. peopletrains says: Feb 17, 2016 11:13 AM

    The Spanos family is worth $1.2 billion. They can build their own stadium. Last time I checked, the NFL and all its franchises are quite profitable.

  41. footballmaven says: Feb 17, 2016 11:18 AM

    Is Balboa Stadium still around?

  42. joetoronto says: Feb 17, 2016 11:22 AM

    raidordie says:
    Feb 17, 2016 9:13 AM
    Must have been a tough pill to swallow when your lackeys inform you your team has ZERO fan base outside of your small market. Honestly is there a charger bar located anywhere outside of San Diego? In there even a single charger bar IN San Diego?
    ******************************************************
    I know this sounds like “hate” but it really isn’t, it’s just an unpopular statement for Charger fans.

    The Chargers will have ZERO fans in LA and a small amount in SD.

  43. rcali says: Feb 17, 2016 11:29 AM

    San Diego, the owner of the football team residing in your town does not care about you. In fact every owner would move their team to Mars if the financial return was better.

  44. granadafan says: Feb 17, 2016 11:36 AM

    The “deal” San Diego can give the Chargers is a discount on the land for the Chargers to BUILD THEMSELVES. Force the SD hotel and convention group to cut a deal on property. Hec, give them some tax breaks but not a single penny of taxpayer money should be used to rebuild a perfectly good stadium. So, it’s old. It still works. The problem is, the Chargers want the bells and whistles. Fine, pay for the renovations yourselves.

    The fans stopped showing up because the greedy and lying Spanos keeps demanding free money from the taxpayers and threatens to leave. Why would any rational fan give a single cent or any support to Spanos?

  45. abninf says: Feb 17, 2016 11:49 AM

    There’s nothing wrong with their stadium, Spanos could modernize it. You can thank the league for demanding SD build a new stadium if they want to host another Super Bowl.

  46. abninf says: Feb 17, 2016 11:53 AM

    peopletrains says:

    The Spanos family is worth $1.2 billion. They can build their own stadium.
    ====================================

    And that 1.2 billion is the value of the team. So he should sell his team, then use that money to build a new stadium for the new owner?

  47. boltergeist19 says: Feb 17, 2016 12:08 PM

    If the chargers want to reach out to the fans or the public for support for this stadium issue in San Diego why don’t they incentivize a deal by giving a break on ticket sales or PSLs for future years. Guarantee something for the fan by honoring a ticket deal with lower costs for more to come out and witness their 1st game or continued die hard fan bases and re-build your base trust showing we are all in could earn support. We all have an opportunity cost with discretionary spending and giving back may take some of the edge off not making this all about money all the time. Quid pro quo. When businesses start losing customers or need help gaining new ones most re-work on retrieving lost or adding new customers by giving something back.

  48. patsfiend says: Feb 17, 2016 12:15 PM

    Why don’t you sell the team to someone who cares more about the product on the field and the real San Diego fans than their profits and checkbook. That would be a good first step.

  49. devonjavatv says: Feb 17, 2016 12:34 PM

    this i suspect is a deal he made with the raiders,in that,if he got LA,,then he would help out the raiders,in getting a stadium in SD,,how? he would say,,this stadium in SD, will be too small,and the chargers will go to LA,for 2017,,and the raiders will go to SD in 2017?

  50. mdintino1420 says: Feb 17, 2016 12:42 PM

    I am very nervous about putting this issue to a referendum. To me, only city officials should be able to approve a stadium deal. There are so many ignorant cheapskates out there.

    If it does get down to a referendum, we all need to rally together and VOTE YES!! There are additional benefits beside keeping the Chargers in San Diego. I myself will walk in with pride and hit the yes button. Everybody needs to reach out to friends, relatives, co-workers, etc TO VOTE THIS THING IN!!!!!!

    If it was easy as the owner “just paying for it himself” it would have already been done.

  51. karmathaitch says: Feb 17, 2016 12:49 PM

    Came back crawling on your knees huh Mr. Spanos.

  52. PhD says: Feb 17, 2016 1:01 PM

    The coach, GM and player personnel people that we, the clueless Spanos family have picked over the years – you left that part out Dean-o. You’ve shown that you’ve got plenty of money to support your political right wing cronies over the years but now none to put up to build your precious new stadium? You sir, and your family, are complete frauds.

  53. glac1 says: Feb 17, 2016 1:08 PM

    Now San Diego realizes how much revenue a franchise means to the local economy… Maybe too little too late.

  54. braceyourselffor12 says: Feb 17, 2016 1:32 PM

    Getoffmylawn! says:
    Feb 17, 2016 10:35 AM

    Didn’t the 49’ers just move out of San Francisco? Where is their relocation money? How far can you move your team without paying the relocation fee?

    —————————————————————-

    Oh christ, the Bills don’t play in Buffalo, the Cowboys don’t play in Dallas, the Redskins don’t play in Washington D.C. If any one of those teams wanted to change namesake cities and move THEN they would pay the relocation fee. The Niners still play in the SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA.

  55. brettfavreisapacker4ever says: Feb 17, 2016 1:33 PM

    If San Diego would factor the lost revenue from Team Jobs, Stadium Jobs, Players and employees who live in the area and spend like any other resident, the Restaurants and Sports bars, Taxes paid, and everything else they stand to lose more money over a 20 year period than what it would cost to cover $400 million which is what I understand to be what their share would be. And San Diego could insist on the parking fees or a split. At least that covers security costs for each game.
    Green Bay did it, why can’t SD ?
    It took 14 years to pay off the $400 mil remod of Lambeau by adding a .5% sales tax in the county. And we have a population of 250,000 in the county. You don’t even notice the extra tax.
    If you like having a NFL home team, you’ll do it.

  56. dasmol says: Feb 17, 2016 1:35 PM

    I’m not even sure I’ll be renewing for my 24th season. I know one thing though, I will never pay for PSLs. That’s just crazy talk.

  57. nashvilletrojan says: Feb 17, 2016 1:48 PM

    Keep in mind, I don’t believe Dean actually owns the Chargers. He is President and CEO, but his father Alex is still owner of record and his siblings are all part of the “family business”. I assume that family pressure as well as as Alex’s power of attorney could be a issue when deciding on a strategy.

    Just sayin’……………..

  58. vtsquirm says: Feb 17, 2016 1:56 PM

    pastabelly says:
    Feb 17, 2016 11:06 AM

    ebhaynz says:
    Feb 17, 2016 10:09 AM
    Okay, how many NFL owners actually paid for their stadiums?

    Jerry Jones and who else?
    ========================================
    Someone mentioned Kraft, but you could include Mara, Tisch, and Johnson as well. They all paid 100% of the new stadium cost. Jerry Jones paid for 2/3. Taxpayers foot the bill for the rest of his.
    ___________________________
    Dan Snyder owns 100% of FedEx Field (which is owned by the Redskins, I believe)

  59. fishyinalittledishy says: Feb 17, 2016 2:22 PM

    How about coughing up and just staying put for the fans.

  60. daytontriangles says: Feb 17, 2016 2:38 PM

    Funny how they have gone from “Staying in San Diego is the worst case scenario” to “We’ll do whatever we need to do.”

    I guess indentured servitude under Stan Kroneke wasn’t looking all that appetizing.

  61. jimmyt says: Feb 17, 2016 3:08 PM

    This is not over. A team will move to London and it could pretty much be ANY team.

  62. tindeaux says: Feb 17, 2016 3:24 PM

    good. hopefully they stay in san diego for many more years.

  63. dogsweat9 says: Feb 17, 2016 3:27 PM

    Its funny- The Chargers fans in Northern California are legions, and Spanos never considers moving the team to Sacramento or sharing Levi’s Stadium with his friends in Santa Clara, Spanos is from Northern California, and the Raiders are headed to Vegas or L.A. via the third spot, the Chargers would be welcomed up North.

  64. steviaquinn says: Feb 17, 2016 5:56 PM

    The Stadium is a half century old. The chargers have brought so much to that city in terms of revenue and its quite frankly embarrassing they don’t have a new stadium. San Diego doesnt deserve a NFL team, neither does Oakland.

    Both teams should bail to cities that actually want them.

  65. monkeesfan says: Feb 17, 2016 6:04 PM

    Then do this, Mr. Spanos – study how Bob Kraft was able to secure bank loans to privately fund Gillette Stadium. There’s no reason you can’t do that.

    Steviaquinn – San Diego and Oakland both deserve NFL teams, Los Angeles never will.

  66. mdintino1420 says: Feb 17, 2016 9:25 PM

    A no vote will make San Diego just like St. Louis- a city without an NFL team. It all gets down to Tuesday November 8th. Spanos has a tentative deal to move to Los Angeles. Remember this, San Diego and Los Angeles are not next door neighbors. They are 100 miles apart.

    For those of you who are not football fans or sports fans, please don’t ruin it for the rest of us. Just don’t vote.

    If I had it my way, the deal would be done by city and county officials and there would be no referendum. This is how Minnesota got a billion dollar palace for the Vikings.

  67. mdintino1420 says: Feb 17, 2016 9:51 PM

    Hopefully Los Angeles stays a one NFL team town forever. The Rams were in Los Angeles before the Dodgers. This is the best chance for football to succeed, to rally behind one team, the Rams. LOS ANGELES IS A RAM TOWN!!!!!!!!!!!

    If the Raiders and Chargers can’t get stadiums approved in their own cities, Las Vegas and San Antonio will be interested.

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