Philly D.A. on McCoy case: Goal is to get it right, not fast

AP

A report on Thursday indicated that the Philadelphia District Attorney’s office was “pushing back” at police recommendations about charging Bills running back LeSean McCoy with a crime for his involvement in a fight with off-duty police officers at a nightclub more than a week ago.

The reason for the push-back is reportedly doubt about the behavior of the officers before, during and after the fight. During an appearance on Philadelphia radio station WIP Friday, Philadelphia Fraternal Order of Police president John McNesby accused D.A. Seth Williams of “overthinking” the case.

Williams released a statement defending his handling of the case later on Friday.

“My team and I are continuing to investigate the incident that took place at the Recess Lounge,” Williams said. “Like with all investigations, I don’t comment about what I will or will not do until all of the evidence has been thoroughly reviewed. I understand that people are interested in the outcome of our investigation, but we’re not going to rush because some people are impatient — and to say that I am unwilling to prosecute difficult cases is a little misinformed. … The people of Philadelphia elected me to charge the right people with the right crimes nothing more and nothing less. My only goal is to get it right, not fast. The last thing we need is a rush to judgment.”

McCoy’s attorney said this week that McCoy did nothing wrong, but an official determination on that front remains up in the air at least a little while longer.

38 responses to “Philly D.A. on McCoy case: Goal is to get it right, not fast

  1. Unless it’s a an alleged case of police brutality. Then the goal is to arrest someone as quickly as possible for political gain. Rather than caring about the truth and what really happened.

  2. Of course the president of the local FOP is going to side with the officers. The DA is taking the right approach. It takes two to tango. . .

  3. What a novel concept. Almost seems to make more sense than constantly rushing to judgment over everything then looking dumb when all the facts actually come out.

  4. Thats refreshing to hear… even though the circumstances were different with the Johnny Manziel incident a few weeks ago was breezed over then dismissed until the judge ordered it reopened.

  5. I think it’s obvious and transparent that they are trying to frame this case to cover for and protect the police. After all, they are “on the same team”. Basically, whenever you have the police department “investigated” by the DA’s office, it’s like the wolf investigating whether the fox broke into the henhouse.

  6. There could be a lot of explanations for the delay:

    1. Bureaucratic inertia (i.e., tough decisions always take longer than easy decisions);

    2. DA push-back against the police pressure to charge quickly (Really possible).

    3. Plea negotiations with McCoy (not too likely because of the ramifications under the Personal Conduct Policy)

    4. One of McCoy’s buddies lining up to take the fall for McCoy. (Possible).

    5. A presentation to the grand jury so that the grand jury, not the DA, makes the charge/don’t charge decision. (Possible)

    6. Normal investigation (hard to say because we don’t know how many people witnessed this fight and how difficult these witnesses were to locate)

    7. Possible pre-trial diversion for McCoy, like Ray Rice’s pre-trial intervention. (Possible, and the delay would occur because the DA would want to thoroughly investigate McCoy’s background before diverting him).

    8. If there are problems with the stories told by the off-duty cops, the DA may want them to take polygraph examinations (Unlikely, because few cops would agree to take a polygraph, especially if they consider themselves to be victims).

  7. I get that it isn’t cool to like cops now but wow. They are allowed to go out like the rest of us and no one in McCoy’s group was injured. So if the Cops didn’t ID themselves, they didn’t have weapons on them, how is this any different then if a car mechanic and his friends were the beat up in the club by McCoy’s group? You’re allowed to get kicked in the head and ribs over a disagreement?

  8. It was always interesting to me how quick the reports came that the officers wouldn’t be charged. We can watch 20 second clips on tmz and speculate all we want but no one seems to know what really transpired leading up to the physical altercation. Regardless of the outcome, the DA deserves some credit for wanting to get it right and not succumbing to political and media pressure.

  9. So if the Cops didn’t ID themselves, they didn’t have weapons on them, how is this any different then if a car mechanic and his friends were the beat up in the club by McCoy’s group?

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    The difference is this: the car mechanic and his buddies lack the clout to bring political pressure on the DA to file charges.

  10. flyspe says:
    Feb 19, 2016 1:10 PM
    I get that it isn’t cool to like cops now but wow. They are allowed to go out like the rest of us and no one in McCoy’s group was injured. So if the Cops didn’t ID themselves, they didn’t have weapons on them, how is this any different then if a car mechanic and his friends were the beat up in the club by McCoy’s group? You’re allowed to get kicked in the head and ribs over a disagreement?
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    No. Which is why, usually, unless it is blatantly obvious that someone has taken a deadly weapon in, or the fight is absolutely one sided it’s a misdemeanor offense. In this case, Simple Assault, a second degree misdemeanor. This puts it in the same class as bigamy and impersonating a public official.

    For a first time offender, on a class 2 misdemeanor, common punishments are probation, a fine, community service, anger management counseling etc.

    The FOP wants a felony charge.

  11. I feel bad for police officers who think and try to do a good job for their communities within a culture that discourages it.
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    So do I, but I’m not sure that applies here because these cops were off-duty and enjoying a night on the town.

  12. “Your Honor, we the jury find the defendant, Lesean McCoy Not Guilty … furthermore, we find the officers involved Guilty of false arrest and themselves Guilty of Assault. We also find the mayor and D,A. Guilty of Malfeasance in Office, and the city of Philadelphia Guilty of Defamation … Oh, and the Eagles suck.”

  13. No. Which is why, usually, unless it is blatantly obvious that someone has taken a deadly weapon in, or the fight is absolutely one sided it’s a misdemeanor offense. In this case, Simple Assault, a second degree misdemeanor. This puts it in the same class as bigamy and impersonating a public official.
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    Or if they deem in this case it was aggravated assault. Since they were allegedly beaten with indifference to their lives while on the ground. I’m not a lawyer and I’m glad the DA is taking his time. I just believe if the off duty cops were rich white guys McCoy would be in jail.

  14. All I know is if this was just 2 groups of average guys the arraignments would have been completed 2 weeks ago…..

  15. Philadelphia Fraternal Order of Police president John McNesby accused D.A. Seth Williams of “overthinking” the case.
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    I hope the next time a police officer is accused of brutality, and this is Philly so there will be a next time, FOP prez McNesby is telling the press and DA to stop overthinking and just charge the officer.

  16. lyspe says:

    Or if they deem in this case it was aggravated assault. Since they were allegedly beaten with indifference to their lives while on the ground. I’m not a lawyer and I’m glad the DA is taking his time. I just believe if the off duty cops were rich white guys McCoy would be in jail.
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    Well, reading the statute it’s “extreme indifference to human life”, or with a deadly weapon, or if they were on duty. The last didn’t happen, the middle requires you to place one I’m McCoy’s hand. The only question is whether punching and kicking someone when that someone was able to give it right back and who drove himself to the hospital in the aftermath showed “extreme indifference to human life”. And whether you can prove that in court.

  17. Ole Seth must be waiting for the NFLs “donation” check to clear. Crazy how long these banks are making us wait for our own money. My bank won’t stop choking my tax refund check for at least another week.

  18. Remember ole Roger Goodell during the Ray Rice stuff…. “We’ve got to get it right”. lmao What a phony!!!!!!!!!!!

  19. No matter what happens involving potential police impropriety in the City of Philadelphia John McNesby ALWAYS says the same thing… the cops were the victims and everything they said or did was above reproach.

    I suspect that there is evidence now indicating that these cops may have been drunk and obnoxious, instigating the fight and then getting their butts kicked. And because they got the worse of it they want the McCoy party to cast as criminals.

  20. whiteybulgersson says:
    Feb 19, 2016 3:18 PM
    This is why I like the Patriots.

    You never hear about a classless Patriot like McCoy.

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    Yup, Aaron Hernandez was a real class act

  21. Maybe the DA is waiting to see if Johnny Manziel has an alibi. If the DA could only get Manziel involved, this would be the perfect storm/circus.

  22. funny thing is Hollis Thomas a former eagle and local radio talk show host said 6 different sources are saying McCoy sucker punched the cop and they were beaten and stomped on. They also suffered significant injuries, so for you clueless morons who want to comment and bash the police, you need to get a clue before running your mouth

  23. Don’t get me wrong…McCoy is about the biggest doosh out there, BUT…
    IF this whole thing turns out to be the fault of the cops, how is Philly gonna’ sweep it under the rug?
    It has been turned into such a big deal that everyone is going to want to know exactly what happened. Philly can start by thanking their big-mouthed mayor for that!

    I know that I’m interested to find out how cops can blow 5 Grand on Champagne.

  24. Glad I’m seeing others wondering out loud about patrolman buying bottles in the club. This is Philly. Read about the corrupt narcotic cops. Read about the metro cop that was in charge of investigating her own drug ring over in camden. Half the bookies I know are cops. I trust the head of an FOP as much as a Chipotle burrito.

  25. The problem the DA has is that the cops started the fight, then didn’t report the “incident” until days later, and also failed to mention that they drove while under the influence to the various hospitals to receive treatment.

    McCoy’s lawyers are going to have a field day with this.

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