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Kaepernick or Griffin: Who’s better at this point?


Both took the NFL by storm in 2012. Four years later, their careers are at a crossroads.

As Colin Kaepernick and Robert Griffin III look for their second NFL stops, many are wondering which one is the better of the two.

A source with extensive knowledge of both players shared this assessment with PFT at the Scouting Combine. Griffin lacks anticipation in this throwing and accuracy on his throws, and he can no longer run. Kaepernick also lacks anticipation and accuracy, but he can still move.

Both will need a system that maximizes their talents and conceals their flaws. But if Griffin can’t run like he did before tearing an ACL in 2012 (the source shares PFT’s unofficial belief that the ligament tore against Baltimore during the 2012 regular season, not during the playoff game against Seattle), Griffin simply won’t be able to make it.

As soon as 10 days from now, both could have new teams. It’ll then be the job of their new coaching staffs to get the most out of them. Whether both can get back to where they were in 2012 remains to be seen.

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48 Responses to “Kaepernick or Griffin: Who’s better at this point?”
  1. vikingf0rlife says: Feb 28, 2016 10:01 AM

    Its a dead heat between Bridgewater, Griffin and Kaepernick. Bridgewater is the clear underdog because of his under sized hands and severe lack of arm strength.

  2. fanofpft says: Feb 28, 2016 10:05 AM

    They are both equally poisonous. You need a coach good at the read option. You need a team open to it were it won’t take away from the scheme they now have in place. And they both fell out of favor in the system.

  3. greenbaychicksarefat says: Feb 28, 2016 10:11 AM

    They both suck

  4. thespread00 says: Feb 28, 2016 10:12 AM

    I never expected long term success from either player. Their playing style is not conducive to the NFL. Poor accuracy and bad at reading a defense. Once the athleticism is gone, or in Kaps case the only thing he is good at, you can’t be an effective QB. Just my opinion

  5. Toykosandblaster says: Feb 28, 2016 10:16 AM

    Wish my packers would get rid of A-rog right now he is over the hill

  6. lrical says: Feb 28, 2016 10:16 AM

    Go with kaepernick. Whew spelled that right. Rather have an inconsistent qb that can run (Tebow) over a qb you pray that can make a throw (weeden) go cowboys!!

  7. sdchicken says: Feb 28, 2016 10:16 AM

    Don’t discount motivation to prove others wrong. Both of these guys were killed in the media and by their teams. I bet one of them blows up unexpectedly. Watch

  8. abanig says: Feb 28, 2016 10:17 AM

    Hard to say, but Griffin has gone more than a calendar year without an injury. You can’t say the same for Kap.

    Griffin worked diligently last year after practice on all the plays that Cousins ran during games and in practice. So he worked extremely hard on becoming more adapt to the west coast system and being better as s drop back passer.

  9. kevin777w says: Feb 28, 2016 10:22 AM

    Kaepernick can still play if in the right system. Griffen is now a career backup.

  10. PFT loves the Steelers says: Feb 28, 2016 10:24 AM

    If I were a Browns, Rams or Texans fan, I’d probably rather have Kaep. I feel for Griffin though. He looked like he was headed for stardom, but it’s obvious he hasn’t been the same since the injury.

  11. kegowhisky says: Feb 28, 2016 10:32 AM

    Oh how I long for a day without Griffin mentioned in the news. He is what he is and unfortunately not what he was. Please put us out of our misery and relegate him to the backup news pages as he will permanently be relegated to the back up quarterback ranks.

  12. ocgunslinger says: Feb 28, 2016 10:36 AM

    Both are flawed and have obvious negatives. Why gamble on a retread when you can take someone in the draft with higher potential. Might not work out either but probably have more potential long term upside.

  13. blakeden says: Feb 28, 2016 10:37 AM

    “Source with extensive knowledge of both players” = I am voicing my own opioion but need to make the article sound real…

  14. mogogo1 says: Feb 28, 2016 10:39 AM

    Kaepernick is healthier so you’d have to go with that. Griffin has never looked the same since the knee injury.

  15. thejuddstir says: Feb 28, 2016 10:41 AM

    Griffin is the poster child for why any smart NFL team isn’t interested in gimmick QB’s. Athleticism is a great skill to have but if you can’t throw accurately, can’t anticipate and can’t read defenses it doesn’t mean much. Give me a slow immobile QB with a head on his shoulders and an arm to make all the passes (Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Montana, etc.) and you can keep all the Griffins, V.Young’s, Tavaris Jackson’s, Bridgewater’s, Tebow’s etc.).

  16. TeamBalco says: Feb 28, 2016 10:47 AM

    The Browns should take them both.

  17. jag1959 says: Feb 28, 2016 10:50 AM

    “Both will need a system that maximizes their talents and conceals their flaws.”

    Considering narcissism and self promotion aren’t talents, what exactly would those talents be?

  18. curmudgeon13 says: Feb 28, 2016 11:03 AM

    The Incredible Sulk will soon join this elite club……

  19. fmckenney says: Feb 28, 2016 11:04 AM

    Griffin seems to have lost his mobility yet continues to try…and he is insecure as a drop back qb. Kaepernick still has the escapability, arm strength and accuracy but gets an F for going through his progressions. If they each had a great o-line Kaepernick would be the better. I don’t think Griffin has really recovered from his injury.

  20. charger383 says: Feb 28, 2016 11:11 AM

    RG III is way less obnoxious

  21. 6250claimer says: Feb 28, 2016 11:15 AM

    I’m with the dude on Twitter who went with Uncle Rico.

  22. bubba703 says: Feb 28, 2016 11:16 AM

    Since neither one is that good at reading defenses or have thrown as accurately as other NFL starting QB’s, and both appear to be head-cases, if RG Me can no longer scramble as well as he did before his injury, that would make Kaep slightly less bad.

  23. unkleruckus says: Feb 28, 2016 11:31 AM

    Griffin is the poster child for why any smart NFL team isn’t interested in gimmick QB’s. Athleticism is a great skill to have but if you can’t throw accurately, can’t anticipate and can’t read defenses it doesn’t mean much. Give me a slow immobile QB with a head on his shoulders and an arm to make all the passes (Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Montana, etc.) and you can keep all the Griffins, V.Young’s, Tavaris Jackson’s, Bridgewater’s, Tebow’s etc.).
    Problem with your argument is, all but one QB you named is under 35 (Arod). The game has changed, and with DE’s and LB’s running 4.5-4.6 forties, you need a Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Winston, Mariota type of QB. The college game has changed so much that we may never see a QB as skilled in the pocket as Bree’s , Brady and Manning for awhile. Their accuracy , anticipation, and ability to read defenses are elite. The college game doesn’t emphasis that anymore.

  24. 87hollywoodhorn says: Feb 28, 2016 11:38 AM

    idk I think before injury Griffin was head and shoulder the better talent.
    But post injury, Kaepernick is definitely a better ground threat. His throwing mechanics are among the leagues worst though.
    Griffin prolly still an above average thrower??? Its been a year since he played though.

    Lets just take time to appreciate Griffin in 2012. That was literally some of the best play from the QB ive ever seen. It was like Peyton Manning meets Michael Vick. And then the Seagulls decided to just take that from us, smh.

  25. vikings1234 says: Feb 28, 2016 11:40 AM

    I think the “Brand Boy” is gun shy and will struggle to be effective. Defenses have figured out Colin Kaepernick’s shortcomings and focus on keeping him in the pocket and forcing him to throw. I would not want either as a starter, but if I had to pick for a backup, I would take Kaepernick.

  26. realfootballfan says: Feb 28, 2016 11:43 AM

    Is this is a serious question? I know 49er fans drunk the Kool-Aid and it became convenient to blame Kaepernick for the weather in San Francisco, but he’s the better player by a mile because he at least seems to understand where to go with the ball in the pocket. He’s just not consistently accurate there. Griffin had his first 2 offensive coaching staffs hated him so much that they stopped teaching him, so he’s basically mentally behind the 8 ball in understanding how to play from the pocket. Also, the injuries have to be taken into account too. Until last year, Kaepernick never missed a start whereas Griffin has missed whole stretches of seasons since his rookie year.

  27. drakost says: Feb 28, 2016 11:46 AM

    Kinda like asking electric chair or lethal injection?

  28. fumblenuts says: Feb 28, 2016 11:52 AM

    You CAN’T polish a turd……..just sayin’.

  29. goddfatherd says: Feb 28, 2016 12:14 PM

    I’d take Kap over Griffin. At this point the image of griffin I will forever have in my head is him looking completely defeated in the preseason against the lions. At this point I think he is broken. Too many hits, not enough coaching. He will never get back to even what he was his rookie year

  30. JSpicoli says: Feb 28, 2016 12:18 PM

    Griffin by far, but he can’t stay healthy. He has exploding joints.

  31. MichaelEdits says: Feb 28, 2016 12:22 PM

    I think the Carolina Panthers should pick up RG3. We need another safety for the scout team.

  32. abninf says: Feb 28, 2016 12:43 PM

    I would have to give the nod to Kap only because he hasn’t blown out both his knees.

  33. whenwilliteverend says: Feb 28, 2016 1:25 PM

    I think James Van Der Beek is better than both of them.

  34. whenwilliteverend says: Feb 28, 2016 1:26 PM

    That’s about like asking…

    “Which tastes better…..this 30-day old steak that’s been left out on the counter or this 60-day old steak that’s been left out on the counter.”

    I think I’d take a pass on both.

  35. bigblu73 says: Feb 28, 2016 1:44 PM

    They will both perform better than expected. Both of those guys have UNDENIABLE Physical gifts that only need to be properly harnessed and utilized. Don’t blame players exclusively for the decline in their maturation process.

    Not exactly like Washington is the model of QB grooming and success! Mike Shanahan or whoever is responsible for playing RG3 in that Seahawks game after he was clearly “injured” and not “just hurt” DEFINITELY should shoulder some of this blame.

    Fast Forward……. the guy has had basically 2 years of Rehab/Conditioning/Film Study without being Hit. I’d be willing to bet he’s probably nearly as quick as he was when he entered the league. Which I remind you, he set the LEAGUE on FIRE after sustaining a ACL tear at Baylor. When he came back with that Clunky knee brace prematurely and was “fed to the wolves” behind that emaciated O-line what did anyone honestly expect?

    The entire RG3 or Kap has to be in a “Zone Read/Option” Offense narrative is simply UNTRUE. Kap’s entire team disintegrated around him between Harbaugh’s dismissal and the flurry of retirements yet none of that seems to be taken in to account.

    P.S. The Day of the “POCKET STATUE QB” is OVER. The modern day QB will be expected to have a “respectable” level of Athleticism and called upon to get out of the pocket if necessary/by design to extend plays.

  36. captainwhodat says: Feb 28, 2016 1:45 PM

    wonder if either will be on the opening day NFL team roster in 2018…

  37. lambeaudungbarn says: Feb 28, 2016 1:52 PM

    Kap gets my vote, it is his ego that held him back in San Fran, while RG3 lost his legs due to injury.
    A running QB will NEVER be a Champion.

  38. 87hollywoodhorn says: Feb 28, 2016 1:59 PM

    a scrambling QB will ALWAYS be more fun to watch.

  39. nomoreseasontix says: Feb 28, 2016 2:44 PM

    Griffen is done in the NFL.
    Kaepernick still has some upward mobility toward his ceiling.
    Not much, but some.
    Neither one had much to offer as an NFL passer to begin with.
    They’re both media hype products.

  40. colt13 says: Feb 28, 2016 3:09 PM

    Griffin over Kap because he will be healthier in 2016. Manning won the Super Bowl, but Newton got there. The fact that he did means teams will try to copy the Carolina offense and both may start.

    Even if you are a team that likes Wentz, Goff, Hackenberg, Lynch or Cook, doesn’t it make sense to sign one of these two to a one or 2 year deal to by some time or have a Kurt Warner like resurrection?

  41. harrisonhits2 says: Feb 28, 2016 3:11 PM

    RGFragileEgo is finished.

    At most he’ll play a few more games for some desperate franchise before their lack of an Oline gets him badly injured again and he’d done for good.

  42. axelulen says: Feb 28, 2016 4:42 PM

    Who said, “Wilson????? Who? He’s too short and lacks arm strength!”


  43. bigblackanvil says: Feb 28, 2016 4:48 PM

    Anyone with half a brain knows it takes at least a year and a half to fully heal. For the first time since his first season RG3 is 100 percent healthy. Part of the reason he didn’t progress as fast as we like is because he spent more time rehabbing and was often limited in off season workouts. I think the year off has rejuvenated him. If he stays in DC ( and it is possible ) or goes elsewhere he will have an immediate impact. Where many of you say he has no value, currently several teams are interested. However with Kirk wanting a laughable $20 + million per year, the team may in fact keep RG3 and do a sign and trade deal with Kirk. Stay tuned.

  44. kaepernickin says: Feb 28, 2016 4:55 PM

    Kaepernick has been one play from a super bowl win and another play from another super bowl appearance! He’s the only college QB to rush for 5000 yards and pass for 10,000! RGMe is only concerned about how he looks! Kaep had a terrible Oline last year and it showed in his record! That said, I’d take Kaep over RGMe any day of the week! At least he tries to win games! And he’s much much smarter than that POS from Baylor! Regardless, this is all a ploy by Kaeps agent to get him away from the mess that is York and Baalke but he’s probably not going anywhere! If he wants to play, he should stay with Chip! The offense will suit his abilities better and the Oline won’t be pushed to be top tier! Getting Anthony Davis back and drafting early will help tremendously! Good luck to my Niners with or without Kaep, this will be an interesting season either way! Go Niners

  45. fanofpft says: Feb 28, 2016 5:08 PM

    P.S. The Day of the “POCKET STATUE QB” is OVER. The modern day QB will be expected to have a “respectable” level of Athleticism and called upon to get out of the pocket if necessary/by design to extend plays.

    Griffin’s way of being elusive is to jump in the air. sometimes straight up in the air.

  46. zinnsand21 says: Feb 28, 2016 11:43 PM

    Kaep comes back from a knee injury, a thumb injury and a shoulder injury. Additionally it was reported in late January that he had a rod inserted in one of his left leg prior to his rookie season. So, IMO RGIII comes into next season healthier. RGIII has better footwork and pocket presence and probably processes defenses quicker than Kaep. They are both inconsistent throwers. RGIII with better touch. I would go with RGIII because he sees the secondary a little quicker can throw with some touch and is healthier at this point in both their careers. Both have been beaten up on the field and have lost a ton of confidence. One thing for certain you are doing short time in the NFL if you cannot process a defense quickly

  47. Suedevanshoe says: Feb 29, 2016 1:10 PM

    They both suck and it sucks their sucking still makes headlines.

    My wife recently told me Kaep has repeatedly turned down offers to be a spokesperson for large national adoption organizations (he is adopted).

    The headline should be who is the bigger tool and they are neck and neck in that regard. Until both of them stop being tools, which is impossible, they will find their way onto the scrap heap as quick as you can say Jeff George.

    I guess if I were the Texans or Browns I’d give them a shot but I doubt any will taste success like they did in the past. It seems like nobody likes them on their team.

  48. ragtopdodge says: Mar 14, 2016 8:39 PM

    Kaep, even though he will kill his team with interceptions, he won’t be limping while he’s taking a snap.

    Would be interesting to see Kaep as a Browns starter. He can’t be much worse than Manziel, can he?

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