Dolphins to use transition tag on Olivier Vernon

AP

For the second straight year, the Dolphins are using the transition tag. The question now becomes whether, for the second straight year, the move results in the tagged player changing teams.

Last year, it was tight end Charles Clay, who signed an offer sheet with the Bills that the Dolphins didn’t match. This year, per a team source, it’s defensive end Olivier Vernon.

For defensive ends, the difference between the transition tag and the franchise tag is nearly $3 million in 2016 guaranteed salary. It becomes an even more significant difference on a long-term deal driven by the tag.

If Vernon signs the tender, he’ll be entitled to $12.734 million fully guaranteed in 2016.

Vernon’s deal could be driven not by the tag but by the market, with Miami holding the right to match, but no compensation. It’s an invitation, as it was a year ago, for another team to load up the cannon and concoct an offer sheet that Miami can’t or won’t match.

If another team signs Vernon to an offer sheet, Miami will have five days to make a decision. With precious few pass rushers on the market and with teams like the Raiders and Jaguars flush with cap space, the Dolphins could end up seeing Vernon get an offer than Miami will have to refuse to meet.

50 responses to “Dolphins to use transition tag on Olivier Vernon

  1. I like OV, but he needs to show me more to love him. This was a good move by the Phins.

    Of course, if Dion Jordan could actually play… er never mind.

  2. sign the tender…..not sure about the Jag’s, but the Raiders are not about to pay you that much…..no way

  3. They could put more effort into retaining him. However there is the poison pill offer that lost Clay which was redone the next season.

    What happened to once bitten twice shy? He gone!

  4. irkjames says:
    Mar 1, 2016 11:49 AM
    Did Tannenbaum learn… I dunno, anything last year???

    Apparently he learned that sometimes a player isn’t worth what the market dictates. Yes, he placed the transition tag on Charles Clay. Yes the Bills made an offer that blew Miami out of the water. And finally, yes, Charles Clay severely under-performed and didn’t even come close to earning that money that the Bills payed him. So who really got the shorter end of the stick?

  5. Welcome to NYG Olivier. You’re the new torch bearer. Taylor to Strahan to Osi/Tuck to JPP to you.

  6. He’s just not worth this kind of contract. He makes way too many stupid game changing penalties and doesn’t take over games.

    Yes, he’s young but I’d rather have them go get 3-4 good player for the same money.

  7. Jags will offer a bit more, probably in the $13.7 range. Miami will have to match. If they don’t, the Jags pick him up as they have about $85 mill to play with.

  8. Unless a team is trying to spend up to the cap, I can’t see anyone making too serious a run at him. The idea that you can take all the time and effort negotiating the right deal just to have Miami thank you for the hard work and sign him to it is going to put a lot of teams off. Someone like Jacksonville or Oakland *could* offer him a blockbuster deal, but Jacksonville looks like they want to spend their money on Irvin and Oakland has been doing their building through the draft and is going to start needing that cap space to keep their own talent under contract very soon.

  9. killxswitch says:
    Mar 1, 2016 11:56 AM

    His production is the Suh effect. Just draft a guy and collect the comp pick.

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    No comp pick from other teams signing away someone under the transition tag.

  10. Wouldn’t be surprised if they signed him long term. He’s a Miami native and, according to his agent, would like to stay put. Also, that same agent is known for getting good deals for his clients that teams can live with. He’ll move Vernon in a heartbeat if the Dolphins lowball the offer but I believe he’ll work extra hard to help Vernon stick around

  11. PLEASE PLEASE someone else sign this guy, He is not worth that kind of money!!! Spend the $ on OG and LB and CB. He makes too many bonehead plays and the media hypes his value up too much.

  12. biggs13 says:
    Mar 1, 2016 12:19 PM

    A late hit on Brady is not a stupid penalty. I’m sure he was told to do it a few times.

    Everyone should. And then get top $.

  13. Regarding Charles Clay: They at least forced a division rival to overpay for a TE that puts up 600 yards a year.

    Regarding OV: He will get overpaid as well, at least they can walk away after the market gets ridiculous.

  14. Hothead. He makes some plays but he cancels them out with stupid drive extending penalties. He caused at least one loss last year via stupidity. Honestly, not worth that much at all. I would let him hit the market and collect a comp pick next year. Save that money because there are too many holes that require solid vet’s. 2-3 or even 4 of them could be filled with that money.

  15. 700levelvet says:
    Mar 1, 2016 12:17 PM
    Do the Dolphins ever… Seriously ever have a plan?
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    Apparently. They have a number in mind for a contract, and they will now find out what the market will bare. If it’s close to their number they resign him. If it greatly exceeds their number, they walk and let someone else overpay. Meaning they have some players they like in the draft, have confidence with who remains on the roster, or possibly have some good information on Jordan.

  16. Man, you can tell dolphins fans are just negative! I can say that because I am one. We just are bad at making football decisions. Sean Smith, Vontae, Paul Soliai, Randy Starks, Charles Clay, Vernon, Miller, and because we will lose Miller and Vernon, SUH.

  17. I’ve heard the jags have got a lot of cap space so if he goes to the Jags it will be back to back years of the Jags signing starting Dolphins DLineman he will be reunited with Jared Odrick

  18. dolphinsmakemecry83 says: Apparently he learned that sometimes a player isn’t worth what the market dictates. Yes, he placed the transition tag on Charles Clay. Yes the Bills made an offer that blew Miami out of the water. And finally, yes, Charles Clay severely under-performed and didn’t even come close to earning that money that the Bills payed him. So who really got the shorter end of the stick?

    Well if they just let him walk in the first place, they’d have gotten a comp pick. If the Dolphins don’t tag Vernon and someone signs him for $12M+ a year, they’re getting a 3rd round comp pick for that deal (top 100 pick). If they give him the Transition Tag and someone signs him and they don’t match, they get nothing. That’s an expensive way to test the market.

  19. Is this guy any good? I know he’s 26 or so and had some sacks but is he worth $12-14M?

  20. ^ they say that’s were the market will be.

    The Clay comparison. The Fins got a replacement for him that also had about the same poor production but at half the cost.

  21. I hope he is gone, that 12 mil would go along way into patching some of the holes we have. 12 mil could sign 3-4 quality players! If he can only manage 7.5 sacks in a contract year with Suh on the same line getting double teamed we can do better, STOP OVER PAYING AND KILLING THE CAP!

  22. razzlejag says:
    Mar 1, 2016 4:18 PM

    Is this guy any good? I know he’s 26 or so and had some sacks but is he worth $12-14M?

    Malik Jackson (also 26) is looking for $14 million. If you look at their season stats OV has been better all along.

  23. dolphinsmakemecry83 says:

    “And finally, yes, Charles Clay severely under-performed”

    Severely? Not really.

    2014: 14 games, 58 catches, 9 TDs
    2015: 13 games, 51 catches, 9 TDs

    Check your facts.

  24. pioniere says:
    Mar 1, 2016 5:55 PM

    dolphinsmakemecry83 says:

    “And finally, yes, Charles Clay severely under-performed”

    Severely? Not really.

    2014: 14 games, 58 catches, 9 TDs
    2015: 13 games, 51 catches, 9 TDs

    Check facts? where did you get that?
    Clays highest year for TD was 6 in 2013
    Last season he got 3.
    The Fins backup TE Stoneburner got that.

  25. No way fins should pay him 14-15 mil a year. Had many penalties last year that negated turnovers or 3rd down stops. He had 2-3 good games and was a no show the first half of the season. Came on the second half of the season once we were out of the race only for his contract push. I have no idea how pff had him rated so high on run defense. He should have cleaned up the first half of last year when both wake and suh were healthy but was invisible. Let someone else over pay for him. They will be regretting it just like the bills regret signing clay.

  26. I would prefer the fins not restructure suh, suck up his cap hit this year, and have much more flexibility to get rid if him after 2016 season. Honestly, the next few years success will depend on whether gase can get tannehill to the 10-12 range in the qb rankings. If tannehill stays the same as he was in 2015 we will be terrible again and drafting a qb anyway.

  27. says:
    Mar 1, 2016 12:12 PM
    irkjames says:
    Mar 1, 2016 11:49 AM
    Did Tannenbaum learn… I dunno, anything last year???

    Apparently he learned that sometimes a player isn’t worth what the market dictates. Yes, he placed the transition tag on Charles Clay. Yes the Bills made an offer that blew Miami out of the water. And finally, yes, Charles Clay severely under-performed and didn’t even come close to earning that money that the Bills payed him. So who really got the shorter end of the stick?
    _________________________

    This is a moot argument from a fellow Dolphins fan, and it saddens me.

    Had Clay been healthy it would have been a different story. He was hurt, causing him to underperform. Also, it’s not like we managed to replace him adequately. Tannehill never developed chemistry with Jordan Cameron. Blame that all you want on the offensive line play but I don’t need a 5th year to determine who Ryan Tannehill is. If he honestly needs an offensive crafted entirely of Pro Bowlers and first round picks there is a massive problem. Franchise tags don’t even go against the cap, so placing a transition tag on a guy we lost that was better suited for our offense and replacing him with a guy that found more success with BRANDON WEEDEN speaks volumes in the mistakes Tannnenbaum made in placing a transition tag on Clay, signing Jordan Cameron, blowing all our cap space on Suh this year, extending Tannehill’s lower-middle-of-the-pack arse, ignoring the offensive line, and because of those moves forced us into a position to place the transition tag on Olivier Vernon now.

    Fact is you have ZERO clue how disrespected Vernon feels for not being extended previously. He dealt with injuries last year, and yes he had some crucial penalties, but how many encroachment calls did Suh get for his whopping $114 mil contract? Stop coddling the people we have running our team for the sake of the fact that they’re incumbently running our team.

    How about when you say the Bills got the shorter end of the stick for signing Clay you don’t say that WE got the short end of the stick when the Jags ran off with Jared Odrick? Because he OWNED us when we played Jacksonville.

    I’m so tired of hard-headed short-sighted Dolphins fans. You found homegrown talent that went to high school 15 minutes away from the stadium, had a year where he outperformed one of the best pass-rushers in the league and franchise history (2013) and y’all are gonna give him an out to go with someone else? But you don’t want to hear how Tannenbaum is blowing cash on heavy-handed moves? OKAY.

  28. He’s a knucklehead. made for miami. They deserve each other. Never gonna see the post season. LMAO

  29. Heard Dolphins offered OV A Long term deal wort 12 mil a season OV turned it down so he thinks he is worth 14-15 mil a season. He got 7.5 sacks last year so he thinks he is worth 2 million a sack

  30. tarniman says:
    Mar 1, 2016 11:01 PM

    Heard Dolphins offered OV A Long term deal wort 12 mil a season OV turned it down so he thinks he is worth 14-15 mil a season. He got 7.5 sacks last year so he thinks he is worth 2 million a sack

    .

    At this point in both carriers Jason Taylor had 3 more sacks. He had the most QB pressures last year. But needs to work on the dumb penalties which he also had the most.

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