LAPD confirms recovery of knife, application of double jeopardy to O.J. Simpson

AP

The Los Angeles Police Department, in a press conference conducted Friday morning, has acknowledged that a knife was given to authorities within the last month, and that the knife possibly was found on property owned by O.J. Simpson at the time of the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman.

Captain Andrew Neiman told reporters that the process of vetting the evidence continues, but he declined to provide details about the situation in order to not undermine the investigation.

The item was given to the LAPD by a motor officer who retired in the late 1990s. The officer, who was either off duty or already retired, was providing security at a movie site near the former Simpson property. The LAPD is trying to determine the identity of the person who gave the officer the knife.

“I was really surprised,” Neiman said. “I would think that an LAPD officer would know that any time you come into contact with evidence, you should and shall submit that to investigators.”

Neiman added that the retired officer, who wasn’t named, has said that he didn’t surrender the item earlier because he believed the case was closed. Neiman clarified that the case remains open.

Neiman declined to provide details about the knife. He said it has been submitted to the LAPD laboratory for testing.

Although Neiman isn’t a lawyer, he explained based on his 30 years of police experience that “double jeopardy would be in place here,” and that Simpson could not be prosecuted again for the murders.

Efforts are underway to find the person who gave the knife to the retired officer. Obviously, any effort to give the evidence value would require the construction of a reliable chain of custody. The person who found it would have to be able to testify that he or she found it on the property. The retired officer would have to testify regarding the whereabouts of the knife from the time he got it until the time it was given to police.

Ultimately, none of it matters absent DNA evidence that would connect the knife to the murders. Unless the knife carries DNA of someone other than the victims or Simpson, there’s really nothing that can be done.

103 responses to “LAPD confirms recovery of knife, application of double jeopardy to O.J. Simpson

  1. If it tests out as the murder weapon at least the LAPD will be able to close out that ‘cold’ case

  2. How is the case not closed? OJ cannot be tried again, and no other person could possibly be charged. On Law and Order the prosecutor can keep finding new people to indict. In real life, any new person would say “We think the fact that the district attorney tried OJ Simpson for this crime already and a knife was found on his property makes it reasonable to doubt that anybody else could possibly have committed this crime.”

    If it’s true that the knife was buried on OJ’s property, I’m just baffled at how the LAPD couldn’t find it. I guess they were too busy planting evidence.

    (Yes I think they planted evidence and yes I think OJ was guilty. And I also think if they hadn’t planted evidence a conviction would have been more likely.)

  3. Should’ve been tried here in Wisconsin. We can convict anyone we want here. Innocent or guilty. We make it up as we go and plant the evidence.

  4. This will prove to be a valuable piece of evidence for O.J. when he is released from prison and re-starts his quest to find the real killers.

  5. What I don’t see mentioned here is that a construction worker found the knife during the demolishing of the property. He gave the knife to a cop who just happened to be close by. He was supposedly off duty. The said cop kept the knife for decades. He wanted to frame it and hang in on his wall. He then asked another cop for info on the victims to add to his add work. Although double jeopardy is in place, any attorney can put so many holes in this new evidence. Just sayin.

    If it is the weapon, these Darwin award winners have added more crap onto this case. I think OJ is guilty, but how about doing things the right way.

  6. This is all irrelevant, there’s a reason why a judicial system has “double jeapordy” it’s pointless to even make it an issue because nothing progressive can come from this

  7. What incompetence! Condolences to the Brown and Goldman families for yet another emotional letdown. LAPD will be lucky if OJ doesn’t sue them for damaging evidence that could have “cleared” him.

  8. Manipulating the news to try and generate ratings for the FX(Fox) show. It’s always about the money. Keep the reminders of racial divide at the forefront. Pathetic.

  9. The LAPD officer was basically a “traffic” cop, but you’d think he’d understand that if no one was convicted of the crime (in a criminal court) that the case would still be open. It baffles me that he just assumed the case was closed.

  10. I suppose there is the very, very long shot of charging OJ with destruction or tampering with evidence.

  11. This is a promotional stunt by Fox. OJ is clearly dumb, but dumb enough to leave the murder weapon on the property if he did in fact do it…. I highly doubt it.

  12. bleedingfacemask says:
    Mar 4, 2016 12:47 PM
    “…and that Simpson could not be prosecuted again for the murders.”

    You must first be prosecuted before you can be prosecuted again.

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    Prosecution is different than being found guilty

  13. How is the case not closed? OJ cannot be tried again, and no other person could possibly be charged.

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    The case isn’t technically closed because OJ was acquitted, which means in the eyes of the law and the people the murderer is yet to be found.

  14. joetoronto says:
    Mar 4, 2016 12:43 PM
    The greatest Buffalo Bill of all time is a double murderer.

    Oh, Buffalo.

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    Sad but true. The fact is that OJ may very well have been the greatest RB of all time. Every defense knew OJ was getting the ball….and they still couldn’t stop him.

  15. I mean will this change anyone’s opinion about what happened? If you think he’s guilty then this is further confirmation.

    If you think he’s framed I don’t think a knife held by a retired police officer for years isn’t going to make you think he wasn’t framed.

  16. What clueless American actually needs to be told that you cannot be charged and tried for a murder charge that you were already found “not guilty” of, by a jury? We just refuse to be adequately educated.

  17. The knife should be put up for auction with all money going to the Goldman family. Their therapy co-pay costs are a lot I’m sure.

    What a damn shame they have to live this whole thing all over again through the TV show and now this.

  18. This just underscores how the police and DA blundered the case, from mishandling and planting of evidence, to trying to make the gloves fit over gloves, to the makeup of the jury. It should go into legal textbooks under “what not to do” when prosecuting a murderer.

  19. i thumbs down your comment says:
    Mar 4, 2016 12:39 PM

    It could provide closure to the families of the victims at the very least.

    Not if every fiber of every surviving relative consider the result of the civil trial over 20 years ago totally correct.

  20. It does not matter. Double jeopardy applies so even if OJ confirmed that was the knife he used to kill 2 people they still can’t try him again. But take heart, even though he got away with the crime he did not get away from being that type of person. And as such he still went on to find a way to land himself in jail. So there it is.

    One question though, is being that type of guy the result of concussion symptoms the NFL is still trying to avoid taking ownership for?

  21. ebdug says:
    Mar 4, 2016 1:30 PM
    … It should go into legal textbooks under “what not to do” when prosecuting a murderer.

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    And it has.

  22. This doesn’t at all sound suspicious. Nope. In no way is this the system trying to go after a guy who beat it. No sir! This is all super legit.

    He probably did it. But this is too convenient.

  23. Wisconsin’s Favorite Son Jeffrey Be Dahmed says:
    Mar 4, 2016 12:42 PM
    Should’ve been tried here in Wisconsin. We can convict anyone we want here. Innocent or guilty. We make it up as we go and plant the evidence.
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    For a moment I thought you were referring to NFL head office in NY.

  24. Ya this guy saw dollar signs galore. They should stop his retirement check. Especially if he did this while still a cop, its obstruction of justice even though double j is done there are civil and other outcomes he obstructed for his own gain.

  25. I am from WI. Lived in Southern CA when this all happened. Me and some buddies decided to drive by and see where the murders happened. We slowed down outside of Nichole’s house and a cop jumped out from behind a tree and gave me a ticket. He told me that the police had to be posted there around the clock because OJ fans were driving by throwing knives into the yard to disrupt the investigation. Said they had collected over 50. This was 2 weeks after the murders.
    I don’t even know if the place the knife was found is the same property but just saying it could be nothing.

  26. Aside from being interesting and providing some mental closure, this will be irrelevant from any practical standpoint.

    Even IF it tested conclusively as the murder weapon, the evidence “chain of custody” here is somewhere between disastrous and non-existent.

    The DA could not reasonably expect a conviction regardless of double jeopardy issues. Nor would he want to risk a spectacular, public failure on his watch.

  27. Now, correct me if I’m wrong, but – putting aside the assumption that OJ was indeed guilty – wouldn’t the fact that the case is closed leave a legal presumption that a killer could still be on the loose? And wouldn’t that make it absolutely more imperative that the officer turn in the knife to investigating officers?

  28. OJ was found innocent..there is a legal system so a jury can vote after hearing all the facts..no one here sat on that jury..ive been accused of stuff in my life as many people have..innocent is innocent..leave the great OJ alone and worry about yourselves

  29. First question before even bothering with all the DNA testing…

    Is the knife’s blade consistent with the types of wounds suffered by the victims? I’m sure the original coroner’s report gave a detailed breakdown of what type of weapon likely caused the wounds.

  30. If convictions can be overturned because of new evidence, why can’t new evidence be the basis for a new trial?

  31. There is no proof this knife ever came from OJ’s property. You people will believe anything. Oh you say there is a TV show about this case? I wonder if there is a coincidence? smh

  32. Ghost of Johnny Cochran – “If the knife is dry, my client ain’t your guy.”

  33. Too bad CTE wasn’t diagnosed around time, OJ could’ve had another lie, up his sleeve. Point blank if OJ was white or Latino he would’ve been guilty.

  34. Just as over time weeds will eventually grow through the cracks in asphalt and concrete so too hard evidence of the truth will always eventually come out.

    That is why the permanent, lasting, legacy of Belichick and Brady will be that of nothing but monumentally egregious cheaters.

  35. I do feel bad for those that really think he didn’t do it. Although it’s still an open murder case, it’s well known that the local police have spent no time on the case because they know he did it.

  36. Hold on everyone!

    As soon as OJ gets out of jail in Nevada, he’ll resume his search for the murderer.

  37. At this point does it really matter. Everyone knows that OJ killed them and got away with it.

  38. victorycruz says:
    Mar 4, 2016 3:33 PM

    Too bad CTE wasn’t diagnosed around time, OJ could’ve had another lie, up his sleeve. Point blank if OJ was white or Latino he would’ve been guilty.

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    So wait a second. Your point is, that OJ got off because of his skin color? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, I’m sure the gross incompetence of the DA’s office had nothing to do with it. To this day, IMO OJ had something to do with it, either with an accomplice or hiring somebody to carry it out. I also to this day do not believe it went down the way the prosecution said it went down.

  39. jerry944 says:
    Mar 4, 2016 2:20 PM
    OJ was found innocent..there is a legal system so a jury can vote after hearing all the facts..no one here sat on that jury..ive been accused of stuff in my life as many people have..innocent is innocent..leave the great OJ alone and worry about yourselves
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    This is assuming that the jury has information the rest of us don’t, therefore making our opinion based in something other than reality.

    The fact that we all saw every shred of evidence, and anyone alive in the 90’s watched every moment, makes public opinion relevant.

    Agree that the jury is the decider, but to say that no one here sat on that jury is wrong in a sense.

  40. Finding the knife doesn’t make him anymore guilty. He was already guilty, and guilty is guilty … even if the legal was system was manipulated by a rapping lawyer to get him off.

  41. “jerry944 says:
    OJ was found innocent..there is a legal system so a jury can vote after hearing all the facts..no one here sat on that jury..ive been accused of stuff in my life as many people have..innocent is innocent..leave the great OJ alone and worry about yourselves”

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    Here’s some news for you. Being found “not guilty” is not the same as being innocent. It means some people (in this case morons) didn’t get convinced by evidence presented at trial. And NO they didn’t hear “all the facts”. Much of the evidence was suppressed. (I went to a DNA conference on this subject) This entire case was a circus of misdirection by the defense and prosicutorial blunders and under estimation.

    And who cast Cuba Gooding as O.J??? If the bod doesn’t fit… Shoulda been Denzel.

  42. Some notes after reading the comments:

    OJ was prosecuted for the murders, but he was not convicted. Prosecuted means charges were filed.

    Chain of custody is definitely a problem with this potential evidence.

    The significance of testing is not for OJ, but for a possible accomplice in the cover-up. Can fingerprints or DNA of someone close to OJ at the time be found on the knife?

  43. So OJ was innocent….right. But ok ho really knows at this point. Beliefs aside. He was found innocent, but from waht I understand the neighborhood didn’t bother to start locking their doors even tho a killer still remained at large. lol
    Old news for us. Feel bad for the Goldmans

  44. The fact that we all saw every shred of evidence, and anyone alive in the 90’s watched every moment, makes public opinion relevant.

    Agree that the jury is the decider, but to say that no one here sat on that jury is wrong in a sense.

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    As somebody who watched a lot of the trial on TV, I can say that I did not see the details of the forensic evidence or the blood analyses or any of that kind of technical data.

    I am curious as to why my first comment got so many downvotes. Is there really some kind of contradiction in thinking both that OJ was guilty and that the LAPD planted evidence? The LAPD had a long and proud tradition of planting evidence to make conviction easier. The so-called “bloody socks” were particularly ridiculous. The police had them in their evidence locker for two months before somebody “noticed” that they were bloody. And the pattern looked more like somebody had sprayed blood on them while they were laid out flat somewhere, as opposed to the kind of blood one might find if they’d been stained while being worn (if for some reason one can even imagine such a thing happening).
    Also a detective first took a sample of OJ’s blood, and then visited the crime scene, carrying the blood with him. The defense had a field day with that.
    OJ was acquitted because the police did such a horrible job managing the evidence, and because they had a longstanding reputation of being willing to plant evidence. Sorry if you don’t want to hear that.

    Of course that doesn’t mean he was innocent. His behavior, including the bizarre slow-motion getaway in the white Bronco certainly is damning.

  45. OJ was found innocent..there is a legal system so a jury can vote after hearing all the facts..no one here sat on that jury..ive been accused of stuff in my life as many people have..innocent is innocent..leave the great OJ alone and worry about yourselves

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    That has to be one of, if not, the stupidest comments I have ever read on this site.

  46. I never read his book but is this covered in “If I Did It?”
    Is there a part that reads, “…and then when I got home, if I had done it, I buried the knife in a place where it will never be found. But it’s not really there because I didn’t do it.”

  47. The idiotic jury intentionally ignored a veritable mountain of DNA and blood evidence in the original trial. They were so blinkered over the race issue, they’d probably have ignored the murder weapon, too.

    Everyone knows Simpson is guilty. Hopefully he won’t get parole from his current sentence.

  48. It’s too bad OJ did not play for the Packers and live in Wisconsin … Ken Kratz would have never charged OJ. He would have found Steven Avery guilty!

  49. Being out here in LaLa land it’s just another day. Another reason why people in the city can’t trust the Lapd. They’re dirty and you never know what they’re hiding. This all is irrelevant. Everyone knows he did it. The Lapd screwed that one up yet again. Who goes on to someone’s property twice without them being home to search their property? They think they’re invincible or they wouldn’t handle cases like they do. I was actually with my parents pulled over on the 405 that evening of the chase. Watched everything unfold on the tv there after in the trial. He did it, but he got the celeb treatment. Hate it for the families. Even Oj’s friends like Big Ac. Because he bulied all of them around. Saw Ac a few months back and boy has he aged. I think the retired cop should go to jail personally, but who’s to say this isn’t a publicity stunt? Oh well, hopefully Oj stays in Nevada when he’s released.

  50. Saw crime scene pics of the deceased in a foreign magazine. Their heads were hanging on by about an inch of skin on the back of their necks. I hope they find the killer(s) who did this.

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