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Broncos come closer to possibly losing Osweiler

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The Broncos want to keep quarterback Brock Osweiler, and the Texans reportedly are pursuing him. League insiders currently can’t tell whether the Texans’ interest is real, or whether it’s being embellished (or flat-out manufactured) to squeeze the Broncos into paying more.

As one league source explained it, there’s one fact that will break the tie conclusively: If Osweiler takes a visit to Houston, he most likely won’t be returning to the Broncos.

The Broncos, who dumped Tim Tebow four years ago and who could see both Peyton Manning and Brock Osweiler exiting after a Super Bowl win, surely have a plan B. As Vic Lombardi of Altitude Sports Network said during the 2015 season on PFT Live, the Broncos were interested in signing quarterback Tyrod Taylor a year ago. While a trade for Taylor is highly unlikely (then again it would be crazy to rule out anything), the Broncos could be eyeballing a trade for 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, whose skill set is very similar to Taylor’s.

It’s unknown where Osweiler is leaning, but let’s not assume he has warm and fuzzy feelings about being yanked from the field in Peyton Manning late in the regular season, especially in light of the dramatic impact a Super Bowl run with Osweiler at quarterback would have had on his value.

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  1. eazeback says: Mar 9, 2016 10:07 AM

    if he wants the money he’ll go to Houston, if he wants to compete for another ring or at least a deep playoff run he’ll stay put

  2. tajuara says: Mar 9, 2016 10:09 AM

    In my opinion, he should remain in Denver. He has two solid offensive weapons (DT and Sanders) plus a decent number of prospect WR (Latimer, Fowler), and top notch defense. The advantage of going to Houston, though, is that the AFC South is weak, so he could succeed there.

  3. godenbroncos says: Mar 9, 2016 10:11 AM

    Run for it Brock, I think Houston is a fine city. Take the money.

    GoDenBroncos

  4. lukedunphysscienceproject says: Mar 9, 2016 10:11 AM

    I don’t buy it. If someone else was seriously in on Osweiler, they would be keeping it tight as a drum, and most likely would already have a deal in place.

    The fact that it is coming out sounds to me like his agents haven’t gotten any offers better than the Broncos and are leaking this as a last second ploy to squeeze a few more guaranteed dollars out of them.

  5. 6thsense10 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:12 AM

    Must be nice hitting free agency as a young QB with potential. If Bradford can get 2/yr $36 million with $24 million guaranteed then surely Osweiller can get a similar or better deal on the open market.

    And before anyone complains that superstar QB A is making X amount just remember this year’s market is different from another year’s market. As with most things in life timing is important and for Osweiller he lucked into a great time to be a free agent.

  6. captainwhodat says: Mar 9, 2016 10:14 AM

    the Broncos could be eyeballing a trade for 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, whose skill set is very similar to Taylor’s…I notice the name of RG3 (whose skill set is also similar) is conspicuously missing…I wonder (out loud) why?

  7. bassplucker says: Mar 9, 2016 10:14 AM

    I wonder what Elway’s contingency plan is if Brock leaves. That Simean dude is not the answer and in this uber weak QB draft class, whoever is left to take at the bottom of the 1st round will be at least 2 years away from being NFL starting material.

  8. jag1959 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:15 AM

    Any serviceable journeyman (Fitzpatrick for instance) QB could have done the job for that Broncos team and the end result would have been the same. Whether that will be the case for next year’s team remains to be seen. The point being I wouldn’t want my team to pay him at the expense of keeping players whose contributions are more pivotal to it’s success either.

  9. iseek11 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:15 AM

    The guy didn’t light it up. He had trouble putting two halves together. Great first hslf one game, great second half another. He gets fredit for 5-2 record, but Manning came in and calmed the team and lead the comeback against San Diego, a game Brock started and gets the win for. Do not overpay for him. Denver loves him and will support him during growth. If he leaves, the new team and fans will expect instant resilts. Maybe he wants ouof Peyton’s shadow.

  10. stealthjunk says: Mar 9, 2016 10:15 AM

    I’ve got faith in Elway — the guy has basically nailed every single transaction during his tenure. No need to break the bank on an unproven QB when there are other candidates out there with at least as much potential. Brock showed promise last year, but he still needs a lot of work even though he’s heading into his 5th year. Yes, he beat New England last year, but so did some guy named Tim Tebow.

  11. dpdonny says: Mar 9, 2016 10:15 AM

    Fighting for a guy like Osweiler show just how this QB-driven league is thirsty for talent at that position. Not knocking Osweiler, but it’s the current reality.

  12. wrlegrand says: Mar 9, 2016 10:16 AM

    They are sure losing a lot of players from “the top notch defense” to be honest. It would be unfathomable for the defending Super Bowl champs to enter 2016 with Kap or Tyrod Taylor as their QB…

  13. B-Dub says: Mar 9, 2016 10:17 AM

    If Brock wants to chase the money, that is fine and he has every right to do it. I like that Elway won’t overpay for ANYONE (Malik Jackson/DRC). It’s hard to throw big money at a guy who’s only started 7 games as a QB, regardless of how starved this league is for quality QBs.

  14. keem513 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:18 AM

    Ryan Fitzpatrick or Nick Foles Might have a new home in denver

  15. xemper0rx says: Mar 9, 2016 10:19 AM

    Houston’s offer can’t be that much better than Denver’s. Maybe a few extra million a year and an extra year or two.

    I’m not sure I’d want to leave after being handed over the starting QB job of the SB champs. They offered him 3 years $15 million per year. That is a fair offer for the limited exp he has. Plus he is already in an offense that he can be successful in and he is on a team with a defense that can make up for his mistakes. Houston is a few guys away from competing and success won’t come for him as fast there.

  16. petersjeffrey36 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:20 AM

    a bidding war over a nobody.. the guy barely made it as a game manager for a team with one of the best Ds in recent memory, guess it there arent many better alternative

  17. tylawspick6 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:21 AM

    Denver is obviously a sinking ship at this point.

    Houston is rebuilding as well, but at least they’re in a better cap position.

  18. gregbrotz95 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:22 AM

    They are sure losing a lot of players from “the top notch defense” to be honest.

    —————————————————-
    They’ve lost Malik and Danny T., who don’t get me wrong we’re good players. But in that defense they were just guys. They still have their top 5-6 guys on that defense coming back next year.

  19. unoduotres says: Mar 9, 2016 10:23 AM

    Bring Back Peyton.

  20. stealthjunk says: Mar 9, 2016 10:24 AM

    You have to wonder why things have been so quiet on the Fitzpatrick/Jets front. You don’t have to be a Harvard grad to know that landing in Denver would be the equivalent of hitting the jackpot for any QB. The only wildcard is that Osweiler and Fitzpatrick have the same agent, which could make things quite awkward…

  21. zappa69 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:25 AM

    Does Brock get a suspension for putting his hands on a woman and pushing her while he was drunk on video?

  22. troy43mvp says: Mar 9, 2016 10:26 AM

    Show me the money! Denver has a good D but no O line, running game and also DT has severely under performed to the point he can’t even be considered a #1 receiver.

  23. charliecharger says: Mar 9, 2016 10:26 AM

    I don’t think Elway drafted Trevor Siemian just because he thought he’d look good holding a clipboard. I think a lot of people are going to be pleasantly surprised if Siemian ends up being the Broncos week one QB. So metimes you have a young QB sitting there and nobody knows how good they are until they get in the game. Also, some guys look really good in practice, and you only find out how bad they are when the real bullets start flying. Anyone still questioning Elway as a GM is late to the party.

  24. denver1983 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:27 AM

    Be a loser in Houston or be a winner in Denver

  25. 1heatedtoombrayduh says: Mar 9, 2016 10:27 AM

    as a raider fan, PLEASE, PLEASE, PUHLEEEZ let this happen!

  26. 6thsense10 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:29 AM

    eazeback says:
    Mar 9, 2016 10:07 AM
    if he wants the money he’ll go to Houston, if he wants to compete for another ring or at least a deep playoff run he’ll stay put
    —–
    The Houston Texans play in a weak Division and finishEd first with a 9-7 record while switching QBs every few weeks. Why do some of you think Osweiller wouldn’t be able to find just as much success in Houston as he would in Denver who plays in a tougher division? Going to Houston isn’t like going to a button feeder like Cleveland. They have a very good defense and an absolute beast of a wide receiver. Why would you leave $2-3 million per year on the table when you have just as good a chance to compete in Houston and get paid?

  27. boogerhut says: Mar 9, 2016 10:36 AM

    If he’s not feeling warm and fuzzy then Bye Bye. I don’t remember Kubiak saying anything but “When Peyton is healthy this is his team”. When asked Oz said “I’m here to help this team when I’m needed”. Side note: I highly doubt that Oz reads this site so find another fake controversy get trending.

  28. steelerben says: Mar 9, 2016 10:36 AM

    captainwhodat says:
    Mar 9, 2016 10:14 AM
    the Broncos could be eyeballing a trade for 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, whose skill set is very similar to Taylor’s…I notice the name of RG3 (whose skill set is also similar) is conspicuously missing…I wonder (out loud) why?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    RG3 has more issues to fix than Kaepernick does and is not ready to be an NFL starter at this point in his career. The knee injury ruined his speed and made him tentative about breaking the pocket, he doesn’t play within the confines of an offense very well, and he is still struggling to take snaps under center and make pre-snap reads. Add on top of that the way that he threw his offensive line under the bus and caused problems in the locker room by not being able to execute the offense, and he isn’t aguy you want to bring in as anything other than a developmental project.

  29. bullogne says: Mar 9, 2016 10:36 AM

    bassplucker says:
    Mar 9, 2016 10:14 AM
    I wonder what Elway’s contingency plan is if Brock leaves. That Simean dude is not the answer and in this uber weak QB draft class, whoever is left to take at the bottom of the 1st round will be at least 2 years away from being NFL starting material.

    —————————————————————

    I couldn’t disagree more. First of all Siemian is further ahead of Osweiler at this point in his career than Osweiler was going into his second season. Brock started showing signs in his 3rd pre season that he was improving. Siemian had an excellent pre season last year and no one really knows what Denver has with him. Siemian was good enough that the Broncos kept him all season and he was backing up Osweiler in the 2nd half of the season. Not bad for a 7th round pick. I think the “prove it” contract that Denver is offering Osweiler is so he can basically compete with Siemian and any draft pick/FA Denver brings in.

  30. cmarsh64 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:38 AM

    What your forgetting is that Texas has no State income tax so the same 15 mil he gets in Denver isn’t the same as the Texans. 15 mil in texas is 15 mil take home in Denver it won’t be, not sure of the tax rate at this writing but it will be less in Denver. Houston has a strong DEF and a stud WR in Hopkins and have the money to upgrade what they need.

  31. swissals14 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:38 AM

    Wrleland we lost one Defesive player. A guy we drafted in the 6th round who was in a rotation with two other guys and got 90 mil.

    So many people come on this site running their mouths and they have no clue what they are talking about.

    Brock wants 20 mil. The most we will give him is an incentivized 15. Take it or leave it. What a lot of people don’t know is Brock was college roommates with Elways son. Elway has none this kid for almost 10 years and won’t be bullied be him or his agent. Kind of like a Uncle/nephew relationship

  32. denverdave3 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:38 AM

    To Stealthjunk: Your point is valid but that comment about “every single transaction” is overstated. Vernon Davis was a swing and miss.

    With a couple exceptions, Elway’s early round draft choices are also underwhelming.

    But like I said, your basic point is valid. So lets’ change “every single transaction” to “Overall.”

    Elway has indeed done an excellent job – overall – and especially in free agency, both with undrafted rookies and veterans. In this arena he gets to “sell” people on why they should come to Denver and seems to be very strong in that regard.

  33. bonesawisready says: Mar 9, 2016 10:38 AM

    If, per Ian Rapaport, the Texans are actually giving him $75 million for 4 years they are idiots. Maybe he’ll be worth it, but you don’t give that kind of money to a guy who has yet to actually do anything in the NFL.

  34. ckg0913 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:38 AM

    If we land Kaepernick, I’m not sure if I can watch the Broncos.

    The point of moving on from Tebow was to get guys who can actually make reads.

  35. fritz96 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:39 AM

    There would have been no Super Bowl run with Osweiler. They wouldn’t have beaten SD and would have been on the road. Manning’s arm was shot, but at least he could command the line of scrimmage and get everyone else playing better.

  36. chrisk61 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:39 AM

    just a negotiating ploy. tom condon is osweiler’s agent, no ? condon just trying to max out osweiler’s value before he re-signs with denv.

  37. arktikman says: Mar 9, 2016 10:41 AM

    As a Steelers fan, having him leave makes the top seed in the AFC weaker. Good news.

    Downside being that he could make the Texans a contender.

  38. realdealsteel says: Mar 9, 2016 10:41 AM

    Houston has a good defense; the best in that division and the division is weaker then the Broncos division.

    Seems to me, that going to Houston , Ossy has a clearer path to the playoffs then if he stays in Denver.

  39. micronin127 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:41 AM

    The Colts are gonna regret being passive with signing up Andrew Luck long-term.

    With the cap going up $10 million+ per year… and guys like Bradford and Osweiler scoring big, what is a true franchise QB really worth?

    Osweiler will get paid. There aren’t enough QBs.

  40. thefatlazygamer says: Mar 9, 2016 10:43 AM

    I don’t really see the appeal with Brock. Sure he knows the system, but he played like garbage. It;s not worth the huge money to find out if he can turn it around. Maybe Denver get desperate and call the ole gunslinger back to retake all his records.

  41. jonathankrobinson424 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:44 AM

    …..The broncos have had years to develop Os….they know his strengths and weakness and obviously his weakness doesn’t justify a huge salary. Houston should sign him and let him start fresh.

  42. schraged1 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:45 AM

    Let Brock go… but have a plan to get someone else in like an RG3 a Kapernick or a Fitzpatrick and then draft a project to develop. If RG3 or Kap are able to win the job convincingly then let them run with it, If not then continue to develop a young player… You have plenty of film on Osweiler to know he is not the answer in Kubiaks offense.

  43. mmmpierogi says: Mar 9, 2016 10:46 AM

    I smell an Osweiler cash grab.

  44. cantescapekarma says: Mar 9, 2016 10:50 AM

    They ain’t getting Tyrod Taylor, he is Buffalo’s! We are not giving him up and going back to EJ. The Bills will get a deal worked out with TT between now and the start of free agency next year.

    Plus, the Broncos hold the last pick in the 1st round. What do they have that the Bills would want in return for TT? I mean they have some good players, but none the Bills need more than a QB.
    If the Bills traded Taylor, they’d need a competent QB to replace him. They are trying to break the playoff drought. We’re not trading our starting QB without somehow getting at least as good a QB back in return, and there is no QB available as good as Taylor.

    The Bills just FINALLY got some good QB play last year, how insane would it be to trade Tyrod?! That would be instant grounds for termination in my book.

  45. mmack66 says: Mar 9, 2016 10:59 AM

    No one is giving up Osweiler and signing Kaepernick or RGThree.

    Come on.

  46. Joetrollonto says: Mar 9, 2016 11:01 AM

    Stealthjunk
    I’ve got faith in Elway — the guy has basically nailed every single transaction during his tenure. No need to break the bank on an unproven QB when there are other candidates out there with at least as much potential. Brock showed promise last year, but he still needs a lot of work even though he’s heading into his 5th year. Yes, he beat New England last year, but so did some guy named Tim Tebow.

    Tebow never beat that Patriots. He lost to them 41-23 and in the playoffs 45-10, both games were in 2011.

  47. randomguy9999 says: Mar 9, 2016 11:03 AM

    Osweiler blew the starting job and let an injured PM take over to go to the SB

    the Broncs should let him go and draft a QB or 2… no matter what they aren’t doing a repeat and need a better QB than Osweiler

  48. marthisdil says: Mar 9, 2016 11:08 AM

    If they had kept Osweiler in, they would have never made it to the super bowl…and likely never past the first playoff game.

  49. jgedgar70 says: Mar 9, 2016 11:10 AM

    Not sure I believe the rumor, but if it’s true, The Teeth has a lot of work to do if Denver is to contend again.

  50. wallabear says: Mar 9, 2016 11:11 AM

    Bill O’Brien will ruin you, Brock. Go to Cleveland and start fresh, with less pressure and fewer lofty expectations. O’Brien wants to compete against Bill Belichick/Patriots (AFC juggernaut) in the playoffs and knows that he doesn’t stand a ghost of a chance with just JJ Watt: O’Brien needs a QB to compete against Tom Brady in the playoffs. Don’t aspire to be that guy by going to Houston. Go To Cleveland!

  51. spoiledsport99 says: Mar 9, 2016 11:12 AM

    Let the guy walk, he’s not even good.

  52. ValarMorghulis says: Mar 9, 2016 11:15 AM

    The odds that the Bills trade Tyrod Taylor is about as good as Jeb! becoming President of the United States. Move on from that theory, please.

  53. broncosllbuckya says: Mar 9, 2016 11:16 AM

    Let’s be Frank. Brock is great, but the price he is commanding after riding the pine for four years, arguably better than being thrown to the wolves in this day and age, does not reflect his talent level or his starting collection of work. It’s limited. High character, great guy, but if he is still waffling on what should be a no brainer… Hasta la Vista, Baby.

  54. gotitan says: Mar 9, 2016 11:16 AM

    When the Bronco fans say things like “Elway doesn’t overpay” and “we are glad we can get a good return on our investment” and “not justifying a huge salary”, what do those fans think a $45m deal actually is for Brock? Doesn’t seem cheap to me for an unproven QB.

  55. bigfan62 says: Mar 9, 2016 11:26 AM

    charliecharger says:
    Mar 9, 2016 10:26 AM
    I don’t think Elway drafted Trevor Siemian just because he thought he’d look good holding a clipboard. I think a lot of people are going to be pleasantly surprised if Siemian ends up being the Broncos week one QB. So metimes you have a young QB sitting there and nobody knows how good they are until they get in the game. Also, some guys look really good in practice, and you only find out how bad they are when the real bullets start flying. Anyone still questioning Elway as a GM is late to the party.
    ——————————————————
    Agree 110%
    Plus, if you objectively look at Brock you’ll notice that he is slow thru progressions (20+ sacks), locks on to first receiver, and his stance is wildly inconsistent.

    Siemian is faster thru progressions, bigger arm, consistent stance and footwork, and better anticipation. as a 45 year Broncos fan I have no problem turning the reins over to him and finding a veteran backup to be his whisperer.

  56. BigAlHeBDMan says: Mar 9, 2016 11:27 AM

    If push comes to shove, and Denver has no viable option at QB, Elway could always come out of retirement.

  57. mmack66 says: Mar 9, 2016 11:37 AM

    marthisdil says:
    Mar 9, 2016 11:08 AM

    If they had kept Osweiler in, they would have never made it to the super bowl…and likely never past the first playoff game.
    ———————–

    Oh yeah? I thought with that defense, they could have won with a cardboard cutout at quarterback.

    Oh, that’s right. They did.

    Might as well let him go.

  58. tjg342011 says: Mar 9, 2016 11:38 AM

    What’s this B.S that if Brock visits the Texans he want come back ? Say this way? I’m sure there training facility isn’t any better then denver’s and he’s got a “true” championship team in denver the last thing he wants to do is leave denver. It be the worst mistake of his career. Stick to ur guys John if he thinks he’s gold and wants to be a 8-8 9-8 team at best let him we have the defense to make any qb serviceable

  59. mogogo1 says: Mar 9, 2016 11:43 AM

    “As one league source explained it, there’s one fact that will break the tie conclusively: If Osweiler takes a visit to Houston, he most likely won’t be returning to the Broncos.”
    _________

    That makes zero sense. A prudent person would fully explore all the options. If you get a job offer from another company does visiting them mean you’re “conclusively” going to leave your current job? So why would it be any different in this case?

  60. purpleguy says: Mar 9, 2016 11:43 AM

    This situation just reminds me of the old Scott Mitchell free agency deal many moons ago.

  61. var8rgrrl says: Mar 9, 2016 11:45 AM

    Brock probably just wants to get out of having to see Khalil Mack twice a year. Hard to blame him for that.

  62. wnstonchill says: Mar 9, 2016 11:48 AM

    I think John Elway put all of his eggs in one basket too soon. He just assumed that Osweiler would want to return. Probably going to burn him now.

  63. tjg342011 says: Mar 9, 2016 11:49 AM

    I’VE NEVER MISSED A SINGLE SNAP of Ozzys play and I will say this I garentee Osweiler needs denver more then denver needs Osweiler. hints the low offer elway made , wich may have affended brock but big deal he will be back . And I suspect as a bronco fan they will still be looking for a long term qb for the future not sure brocks it .

  64. cuda1234 says: Mar 9, 2016 11:55 AM

    Why does the word “Tebow” keep coming up in stories about quarterbacks and the NFL? What is this Tebow thing you speak of?

  65. silvernblacksabbath says: Mar 9, 2016 12:00 PM

    No way Elway would bring in Kaep! He knows QBs…

  66. genericcommenter says: Mar 9, 2016 12:07 PM

    If he started for the SB run, he could have lost or he could have been Trent Dilfer (in other words, 2016 Peyton Manning) and won. I don’t see how much it would have driven up his value. Maybe it would have made the Broncos more eager to re-sign him, but in many ways I think him playing a fair numbers of games and then keeping some mystery may help his value. He wasn’t great but he was winning, and wasn’t really given a chance to shine or flop at the end.

  67. stoolerz says: Mar 9, 2016 12:08 PM

    With that defense, does it really matter if he leaves?

  68. dsigrey says: Mar 9, 2016 12:10 PM

    Ah, Payton screws the team that should have benched him the rest of the season. Such a Manning move.

  69. mmack66 says: Mar 9, 2016 12:13 PM

    bigfan62 says:
    Mar 9, 2016 11:26 AM

    Agree 110%
    Plus, if you objectively look at Brock you’ll notice that he is slow thru progressions (20+ sacks), locks on to first receiver, and his stance is wildly inconsistent.

    Siemian is faster thru progressions, bigger arm, consistent stance and footwork, and better anticipation. as a 45 year Broncos fan I have no problem turning the reins over to him and finding a veteran backup to be his whisperer.
    —————————-

    Siemian has no stats. Has he even played in a regular season game?

    How does anyone know how he will perform in a real game?

  70. rogerdw66 says: Mar 9, 2016 12:19 PM

    Here’s one thing you can count on. When it comes to who will QB the Broncos next year, Elway/Kube have a Plan B, C, and D in place and have since the day after the SB.

  71. xilikemenx says: Mar 9, 2016 12:24 PM

    As much as I would like to see Brock stay in Denver, this could be his only chance to get PAID. No guilt in taking the money!

  72. xavier179 says: Mar 9, 2016 12:30 PM

    What did you expect after you unceremoniously pulled him and put in that washed out quarterback Manning. Brock as an axe to grind and he very well may sign elsewhere.

  73. tonebones says: Mar 9, 2016 12:38 PM

    The most calm guy in the world right now is John Elway. Osweiler is a good QB. Siemian might even be better. That tells me Elway has the rare ability to find blue chip QBs that nobody else could see. Now look ahead to this draft class. Elway is probably laughing listening to all the “experts” talking about the weak QB class. I believe this is the best group to ever come out. Elway probably does to. He’s probably looking at a guy he thinks will be there in the 2nd or 3rd round that is the best prospect overall. So Elway isn’t stressing out about Osweiler or Kaepernick or anything else that can be controlled by others. Elway is just sitting back enjoying his rare ability to evaluate QBs, which is priceless. And believe me, that ability is rare.

  74. hoss408 says: Mar 9, 2016 12:40 PM

    As a Bronco fan I can say I’ll be disappointed if he leaves, but there’s gotta be a reason he was allowed to test the free agency waters.

  75. lambeaudungbarn says: Mar 9, 2016 12:46 PM

    Who writes for these guys, a 4th Grader?

    “but let’s not assume he has warm and fuzzy feelings about being yanked from the field in Peyton Manning late in the regular season,”

    Also he hasn’t even VISITED Houston!

  76. granadafan says: Mar 9, 2016 12:47 PM

    Maybe Brock feels insulted by the Broncos arrogant and low ball offer. Elway still thinks the Broncos have the leverage, but they lost Peyton and are about to lose their starting running back due to another low ball offer. The leverage is with Brock. The Broncos will soon have no QB. Even that defense couldn’t overcome no QB.

  77. animalkindness says: Mar 9, 2016 12:51 PM

    dsigrey says:
    Mar 9, 2016 12:10 PM
    Ah, Payton screws the team that should have benched him the rest of the season. Such a Manning move.

    Well you had better tell that to his team and the rest of the NFL for that matter. Peyton does not do that and Brock is tepid at best. Again, he can’t read defenses, has no natural ability in that sense.

  78. mdintino1420 says: Mar 9, 2016 12:56 PM

    The Broncos made Brock a more than reasonable offer for a QB who has only seven starts. That isn’t enough of a resume to justify a mega deal.

    Stop listening to your slimeball agent and stay put in
    Denver!!!!!

  79. honeybadger14 says: Mar 9, 2016 1:09 PM

    I get the feeling the Donk’s could produce a bunch of Osweiller’s in that offence. This reminds me of the time the Cardinal’s hit on Kevin Kolb.

  80. vonmillertime says: Mar 9, 2016 1:11 PM

    Nobody knows Brock better than Elway. He witnessed all of Brock’s college career because Elway’s son played on the same Sun Devils team as Brock. Elway has also had a front row seat to Brock’s development for his first four years in the NFL.

    And guess what – Elway knows quarterbacking. If he thinks Brock is only worth 15mil then he is only worth 15mil. If Elway is ready to cut ties with him after years of investment, other teams better look out.

    Houston can have him if they want but they will be overpaying.

  81. edelmanfanclub says: Mar 9, 2016 1:19 PM

    If he takes the money some quarterback is going to fall into a great situation. I dont blame him for taking the money if the guarantees are very far apart. RG3 Kaep or some rookie will see snaps in DEN in that case. The denver D still has Miller but may lose Ware and already lost Jackson. I think with Phillips and the rest of the D they will still be competitive in spite of the QB

  82. mototax says: Mar 9, 2016 1:38 PM

    This sure does feel like years ago when Houston went after Schaub. Yes, Schaub had some good years but….

    Could this be a repeat?

  83. nhpats says: Mar 9, 2016 1:48 PM

    tonebones says:
    Mar 9, 2016 12:38 PM
    The most calm guy in the world right now is John Elway. Osweiler is a good QB. Siemian might even be better. That tells me Elway has the rare ability to find blue chip QBs that nobody else could see. Now look ahead to this draft class. Elway is probably laughing listening to all the “experts” talking about the weak QB class. I believe this is the best group to ever come out. Elway probably does to. He’s probably looking at a guy he thinks will be there in the 2nd or 3rd round that is the best prospect overall. So Elway isn’t stressing out about Osweiler or Kaepernick or anything else that can be controlled by others. Elway is just sitting back enjoying his rare ability to evaluate QBs, which is priceless. And believe me, that ability is rare.

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    LOL! What QBs has Elway found that have proven to be very good or better? So far I would say “none”. Ossweiller “could” be good but the jury is still out on that. Any team would be foolish to give him a big contract regardless of what some other shlock teams are paying QBs….

  84. mmack66 says: Mar 9, 2016 2:16 PM

    Yes, please sign RG3, Kaepernick, or Fitzpatrick.

    -A Chiefs fan.

  85. mmack66 says: Mar 9, 2016 2:21 PM

    tonebones says:
    Mar 9, 2016 12:38 PM

    The most calm guy in the world right now is John Elway. Osweiler is a good QB. Siemian might even be better. That tells me Elway has the rare ability to find blue chip QBs that nobody else could see. Now look ahead to this draft class. Elway is probably laughing listening to all the “experts” talking about the weak QB class. I believe this is the best group to ever come out. Elway probably does to. He’s probably looking at a guy he thinks will be there in the 2nd or 3rd round that is the best prospect overall. So Elway isn’t stressing out about Osweiler or Kaepernick or anything else that can be controlled by others. Elway is just sitting back enjoying his rare ability to evaluate QBs, which is priceless. And believe me, that ability is rare.
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    Lawl.

    Wasn’t Elway the GM when they signed Tim Tebow?

  86. stonedwhitetrash says: Mar 9, 2016 2:22 PM

    Tebow time

  87. bronco1st says: Mar 9, 2016 2:34 PM

    The Broncos are high on Siemian. The fact that Elway signed him to the roster rather than the PS last year attests to that – Elway won’t use a roster spot for anyone he doesn’t believe can play. When PM went down, JE was fine with Siemian as the backup, bringing in Ponder for 1 week to get Siemian up to speed, then cutting Ponder and trusting in Brock and Siemian to fill. Those who say Siemian is not the answer, never watched him in pre-season last year. He has a year in the system and the knowledge and trust of the players. If forced to do so, JE will go with Siemian and a rookie or journeyman as backup.

  88. vonkaiser2001 says: Mar 9, 2016 2:36 PM

    How can there possibly be so much talk about this guy? He’s never done ANYTHING to justify this kind of money or hype. The Broncos barely beat the Bengals at home and it took a fluke play at the end, got CRUSHED by Pittsburgh and was losing to the putrid Chargers before Manning came in and steadied the wheel to pull it out. No way no thank you. Give me a draft pick who has the potential to be a phenom over a 5 year backup who never did anything remotely dazzling in all that time.

  89. boltergeist19 says: Mar 9, 2016 7:52 PM

    Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye- to the afc west crown or playoffs. Wait till you have to fork out a 100million for VM. Between DT and those old D vets this team is locked down and can’t sign anyone soon. Keep drafting well- you’re gonna need it Englewood.

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