Browns players confused by what’s happening

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Browns fans are confused by what the team is doing, or not doing, in free agency. They’re not alone.

Per a league source, Browns players also don’t know what’s going on in Cleveland.

Yes, they’ve added a couple of mid-level guys. But four key players have walked away this week (center Alex Mack, offensive lineman Mitchell Schwartz, receiver Travis Benjamin, and safety Tashaun Gipson), joining other key players who have left in recent years (defensive lineman Jabaal Sheard, cornerback Buster Skrine, linebacker D’Qwell Jackson, and defensive lineman Ahtyba Rubsin).

The approach as of this year runs opposite to what the players were told, the source said. Now, players are left to wonder whether the Browns will be making a move for quarterback Colin Kaepernick or anyone else. Along with the team’s fans.

That’s not to say they should be overspending for the sake of doing so, but they still need to field a team this year. And ideally the team will at least be mildly competitive. Otherwise, another new regime will eventually be doing something (or nothing) during some March in the future.

141 responses to “Browns players confused by what’s happening

  1. They have a plan. They will have Sonny Weaver, Jr run their draft for them on Draft Day. He will turn one first round draft pick into two and pick up David Putney for their special teams. The Brown are ready to roll.

  2. “Browns players confused by what’s happening”

    They have that in common with their front office and their owner.

  3. Throwing money at free agents won’t change the Browns over night, I’m surprised the players aren’t buying in a little more

  4. while I am confused with letting “your own” walk that easy, I think the Browns are wise in not over-spending in the first wave–they are not a few players away from being a contender. Load up on strong players that don’t get over-paid and through the draft

  5. “Browns players confused by what’s happening”

    Usually, that’s reserved for the field on gameday.

    I KID MY BROWNS!

    GO BROWNS!

  6. I can’t believe that Dallas has drafted an all-pro o-line the last five years and people keep making fun of them.

    Instead of this pile of hot garbage in Ohio? Really?

  7. Confused? Pretty obvious to me… building through the draft. Get rid of those that are confused too because they’re not very bright.

  8. First they thought they found their QB. Then they lost him. Then Manziel mentions that whole time they were trying to build a championship team (He fooled me). Then Ohio State wants to play them heads up. Id be confused also.

  9. Mike,
    You have friends in the media, do any of them think Halen is the NFL version of Donald Sterling? He simply bought the team in order to simply cash in on the profit sharing? When people ask me my favorite NFL team, I’m of cringing and having to explain why I am a Browns fan. (My dad took me to games in the 60’s and out of loyalty to him) You know things are that bad when Steeler fans admit to feeling sorry for you.

  10. Well they drafted a center in the first round last year, so what’s the big deal in letting a 31 year old center leave this year?

    Nobody ever had a good thing to say about Mitchell Schwartz until he became a free agent. After his first and second year the media was calling him a bust.

    The other two guys…I’ve forgotten their names already. Won’t miss them.

    Unless the first game is next Sunday, it’s way too early to be this bothered by what they’re doing. It’s the same thing that teams like the Packers and Steelers do every year.

  11. I turn on the NFL Network & they had on “A Football Life 95 Cleveland Browns with Bill Belichek”. Talk about pouring salt on the wounds of Cleveland Fans after their latest debacle. The team left won 2 Super Bowls, the coach leaves & he goes onto win 4 in New England. A very good episode by the way. Hopefully these guys put it together for the Cleveland fans, it’s long overdue.

  12. Appears they have added extra shifts at the Factory of Sadness. The product they are producing this year exceeds all expectations.

  13. Hire drew Carey as HC. They may not be any more competitive but the pressers will be more entertaining

  14. They need a total rebuild thanks to the Manziel disaster. No sense in blowing the cap for a 5-6 win team. Supposedly next years free agent crop is a lot better than this years….maybe thats what they’re waiting for; they’ll be cutting some major names after this season.

    I wonder if Hue Jackson regrets blowing off that Giants interview. If he had gone he almost definitely would have been offered the job.

  15. Who would want to play in cleveland..its a dirty city..its cold..the fans are called great fans but if u watch their games come the 3rd quarter the stadium is 75% empty..its owner is a lier and a theft..

  16. Relax, Dee Haslam, the geniuses from Harvard, and the baseball guy have it all under control. Right, Jimmy???

  17. What else can you say?

    The ‘Factory of Sadness’ is a very confusing place !

  18. derekgorgonstar says:
    Mar 11, 2016 6:13 PM

    I can’t believe that Dallas has drafted an all-pro o-line the last five years and people keep making fun of them.

    Instead of this pile of hot garbage in Ohio? Really?
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    That’s because Dallas is a joke, with a joke of an owner/GM.

    What has all of that All-Pro talent gotten them? 3rd or 4th pick in the draft?

  19. Manziel was begging to be drafted by the Browns so that they could ‘wreck this league together’. I think he meant ‘wreck this team together’.
    Mission accomplished Johnny 8 ball.

  20. Players only have one pro career and they don’t last forever. If you think the ownership is clueless, you don’t want to waste your career and spend the rest of your life wondering what might have been if you played on a decent team. Doesn’t have to be a great team, just a team that’s competitive. When it appears that the ownership doesn’t give a hoot about winning, or is just completely clueless, you start looking for exits. The 49ers are experiencing the same deal. There is a draft approaching, but the Browns just hired a bunch of money guys and baseball guys to run their football operations. That’s a head scratcher too. The owner will probably double his money on his investment regardless of whether or not the Browns ever win another game, but the players obviously want out.

  21. The bottom line here is if you have a completely clueless owner your team is doomed no matter how many star players you have.
    All successful franchises have competence and stability starting at the top regardless of the sport.

  22. Get Kap and start using FA. You have polluted the NFL landscape of former 1st round picks that are backups at best.

  23. The Browns are nearly $40 million under the salary cap. It’s one thing to let untalented or often injured players go, but there’s no excuse for letting Benjamin and Mack get away. You’ve got to keep your homegrown talent at home if you ever want to win – and the Browns front office is not trying hard enough.

  24. gints1017 says:
    Mar 11, 2016 6:09 PM
    Throwing money at free agents won’t change the Browns over night, I’m surprised the players aren’t buying in a little more
    —————————————————-

    It’s working for the Raiders…

  25. I wonder if the Steelers would take the Browns first round pick for taking back Haslam as a partial owner. This whole debacle is on Roger for recommending this clown. Mike, I’m dead serious, do YOU think Haslam is in this solely for the profit sharing. He’s already got question al motives with his truck stops.

  26. Brown’s need to trade Joe Thomas to my Vikes for expiring money (aka Kalil) and some draft picks.

  27. There are basically an infinite number of snarky comments one could make in regard to that headline, which pretty much just makes me feel sorry for the Browns and their fans. They have a good, loyal fan base, so I hope they can field a worthy team again one of these years.

  28. What would they have them do? The players left because they didn’t want to be there anymore. Based on the recent success or lack there of, they were justified. Kind of cut and dry. However, I wouldn’t be shedding tears for players on bad teams leaving. The defense was among the worst in the league last year, and who in the world thought Travis Benjamin should have gotten the contract he got? Anybody? Mack is very good, but he’s also approaching 30 coming off of a bad injury the year before where you were paying him as much as I’d personally allocate to a center unless I was getting one of the all time greats in his prime.

  29. They’re blowing it up. Bet they trade Joe Thomas on draft day as well. They couldn’t win with the current crop so why keep paying for mediocrity. The new guys are cleaning house. There’s no signing a FA or trade to fix it quick so rebuild it. It’s not like we were on the cusp of being good or even OK. I’m guessing they took a look at the pieces available and saw zero sense in coughing up more cash for the same product. This doesn’t suck because it’s sucked since 1999 so I don’t even worry about plans because they haven’t existed since Kosar, Minnefield and Mack walked off for the last time.

  30. dp214tx says:
    Mar 11, 2016 6:44 PM
    gints1017 says:
    Mar 11, 2016 6:09 PM
    Throwing money at free agents won’t change the Browns over night, I’m surprised the players aren’t buying in a little more
    —————————————————-

    It’s working for the Raiders…

    Actually the Raiders are building through the draft and picking up a few pieces here and there. They are some nice pieces though

  31. On one hand I get purging your team to rebuild from the ground up, but…. This isn’t Haslem’s first year, and so far he’s looked like a complete idiot (not to mention criminal). I wonder how long it will take for the league to seize control David Stern style, cause you know Goodell the clown would just LOVE that.

  32. All year is cheap shot season for the Browns.

    It’s so frustrating to have grown up there and enjoyed the Cardiac Kids and Bernie Kosar, to get hooked on the team, and then watch this utter debacle since 1999 occur.

    Here’s to the hardy ones gearing up for another rebuild. I’m still a fan despite it all. We didn’t bail for other teams when the original Browns were stolen and this bastardized child was born, and we aren’t going to bail now.

  33. I can’t believe that Dallas has drafted an all-pro o-line the last five years and people keep making fun of them.

    #4 Overall pick.

  34. “if u watch their games come the 3rd quarter the stadium is 75% empty”

    That tends to happen when your team is getting blown out by halftime.

  35. Is there really any confusion?

    They have been perennial losers for quite some time.

    Who would want to go to the Browns? Could be star WR can’t stop partying even with multiple suspensions. Horrible QB situation for the last 20 years in a league where QBs are needed. Coaches are in and out in record time. They have drafted 1st round bust after bust. There is no hope in winning.

    Free agents are using them to bid up other teams at best and nothing else.

    Honestly to fix the problem, they need to start drafting better. Hue Jackson is the best thing to happen to the franchise in years.

    I’d love to see them make the playoffs again one day just to shake things up.

  36. At least I know which team I’ll be targeting with my knock out picks this year. They may not win 1 game.

  37. So the Browns players think they should be keeping the guys from the 3-13 squad because they were important?

    Browns defense was AWFUL last year but we want to keep the best guy on IR (Gipson).

    What if Travis Benjamin walked two years ago when no one outside of Cleveland knew his name? Or last offseason when people knew his name as “why do we have so many tiny receivers”.

    Didn’t the Browns draft a Center with their first round pick LAST YEAR? Almost as if they were planning on Mack leaving since he told them he was and tried to once.

    BTW Sheard is a backup now, Jackson is the best player on a defense that regularly gives up 40 or more points a game and Skrine is a non factor in New York. Literally the only people the Browns have given up in the last few years that have gone on to achieve anything are TJ Ward, Phil Dawson and Ben Watson and in two of those cases their replacements in Cleveland were just as good.

    No one said football players were brain surgeons. Someone play the footage of everyone in the regime saying they’re building through the draft. When you’re on the last place team picking second in the draft you have no right to question why guys are leaving or why the team isn’t willing to break the bank to keep them.

  38. r502 says:
    Mar 11, 2016 6:31 PM
    Manziel was begging to be drafted by the Browns so that they could ‘wreck this league together’. I think he meant ‘wreck this team together’.
    Mission accomplished Johnny 8 ball.

    _________________________________________

    I think you meant to type “Johnny High Ball”.

  39. i totally get what they are doing, if you dont have enough players to fill out a roster, you technically cant lose games if you arent eligible to play due to the fact you dont have enough players…

  40. “derekgorgonstar says:
    Mar 11, 2016 6:13 PM
    I can’t believe that Dallas has drafted an all-pro o-line the last five years and people keep making fun of them.

    Instead of this pile of hot garbage in Ohio? Really?”

    That’s pretty impressive now if you can manage to win more than 1 more game than the Browns this coming year i’ll be REALLY impressed!

    Browns 3-13
    Cowgirls 4-12

    A new coach or a GM that isn’t the owner would know how to utilize all those great all pros better perhaps?

  41. They have lots of time for a Harry moment in Dumb and Dumber (after he traded the van for a moped. )

    And fans will say ” Just when we thought you couldn’t possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this… and totally redeem yourself!

  42. It was reported the other day that a team normally active in free agency would be sitting on their hands for the first period and then become active when prices came down. Maybe it’s the Browns?
    Interesting approach to free agency by Sashi. He is a value shopper. Let’s see if it works.

  43. Loading up on Comp. Picks for next year, when teams will be allowed to trade the comp. picks?

    Any QBs in next year’s draft that are looking good?

    Either way, if the moves they’re pulling pay off in the long run, all of us will be portrayed as dummies for questioning the wheeling and dealing of Kevin Costner.

  44. @ pftbro,…plowing under for a new crop is fine, but you have to let the new crop grow. The browns have been plowing under at the first sign of growth for 16 years now.

  45. Haslam told his front office geniuses to make sure they lock down all of Cleveland’s young talent to multi-year contracts. They have been in Goodyear Arizona all week trying to meet with Kluber, Kipnis, and Lindor. Honest mistake that could happen in any city.

  46. Headline should read: “Entire Cleveland Browns organization confused by what’s happening”

  47. The Browns players had better be quiet. The first thing a new coach on a poor team needs to do is cut half the roster. Fortunately, they have a coach who would rather make a stand than move forward.

  48. Geez, relax. There was no reason to jump on the “let’s over pay everyone just so we look like we’re trying” bandwagon. If the players wanted to stay, they could have. The offers that were made were not out of line with what they got other places. Mack wanted out; he’s a better fit in Atlanta’s offense anyway. I’m sorry to see Schwartz go, but he’s not the be all end all of linemen.

    I’m not saying I’m happy about this, or that it will all work out in the end, but when has buying a bunch of free agents really helped a bad team get that much better? There are plenty of good players out there and will be more as time passes. It’s not like we’re used to winning or anything, so we’re not really missing anything.

  49. Angry Orange Man says:
    Mar 11, 2016 7:10 PM

    By the TV show?
    —————–

    “Hey, Hey, Hey!”

  50. It is likely the Baseball guy running things. He is trying to trim the roster to 40 like in MLB. Probably believes the draft is in June.

    I feel horrible for the fans. They don’t deserve this ineptness of an organization.

  51. First and foremost, Jimmy Haslam is a crooked scumbag like every NFL owner.

    Second, the fans in Cleveland deserve this. They keep showing up to watch this garbage team. If you were a restaurant owner and u gave garbage service and served garbage food, and people kept flocking to yoir restaurant, the owner would be like sweet, im doing great. Same concept. People keep showing up why would Scumbag Haslam change anything?

    Third, the ownership getting Haslam’s wife involved in head coaching interviews shows what a clueless organization the Browns are.

    4th, the new Sashi Brown led Front Office is dumb as rocks. They have zero football background and make dumb decisions.

    No surprise here.

  52. OK So I guess this isn’t the right time to send in my proposed name change, design for the helmet logo and ideas for new uniforms.
    I’ll wait.

  53. Like the Sixers in the NBA not even trying. Just keep getting and wasting low round draft picks.

  54. TheBrownsareClowns,

    When fans don’t show up, teams move. Go ahead and name any team, in any sport, where fan boycotts changed anything for the better.

  55. LOOK, boycotting does no good, Haslam still makes boatloads of money from profit sharing and tv revenue from the teams that are trying

  56. When the owners game plan is to fire the Coach and Gm every 2-3 years how could ever expect any continuity.

  57. I hope they give Hugh Jackson a legit chance at remaking this team.

    Lord knows its going to take a few years….

  58. They need to change their name, put a logo on the helmet and new uniform colors.
    Not only would that generate new interest in the fans but it could be a moral booster and motivator for the team as well.
    Yeah, yeah, I know. Tradition. But anyone smart would sacrifice tradition for their team to be winners.

  59. They are a doing a long-term rebuild. I don’t think they are attempting to pull a 76ers or anything, but look for them to try to build through the draft and possibly end up with the first draft pick as their starting QB, with a lot of mid-tier pieces.

  60. Browns willing to part w/ 3rd rnder for Colin Kaepernick, sources say, but hinges on redoing $19 million a yr deal.

    Browns’ third-rounder is 65th overall. Broncos’ second-rounder is 63rd overall. Denver doesn’t wanna give up a 2.

    Sportrac had his contract at 5 yr/$89.2M deal w/ a $13.425M cap in 2016.

    I’m torn over this. I want the Browns to get Kap. But I want the Broncos to not be able to match on CJ Anderson with the Fins.

  61. Um, doesn’t the owner have financial issues still thanks to the Flying J scam he was pulling (without his direct knowledge of course).. I think the company paid out around $100 million.. Maybe that has something to do with this…

  62. What’s funny is when you hear these guys interviewed they don’t hate on Cleveland. It’s really not a bad city, it 100% this organization or should I see Train Wreck Organization.

    Nothing that goes on in Berea make any logical sense.

  63. Browns need to build through the draft. Get the stupid owner out of it. Drafting smart with defense should be the focus,and they have some good players there. Stay away from Treadwell I smell bust on him.

  64. The Browns “plan” is to suck even more this year (a lofty goal) so they can get a high draft pick that their owner then can consult with a homeless guy before wasting it, again, on somebody they’ll overpay and then release in a few years. It’s as if Haslam and Snyder are in a no holds barred race to the bottom of NFL owners.

  65. boycotting helped Eagles, Packers, Rams, Lions, Bengals, Saints, Bills, Colts, Bolts, all needed it at one time or another…

  66. Paul Depodesta was hired from baseball, the “moneyball” guy. He’s pulling his strategy, who knows, couldn’t be worse than anything they’ve done in the past. Might as well be creative and think outside the box. Why overpay for a few FA’s that won’t make enough of a difference and drain your cap space

  67. If I were Hue Jackson I would be livid ! I know its best to build through the draft but Jesus they let their own players walk and just sit there with a dumb look. Kaepernick wont be able to do jack if there isn’t anybody block, catch or run the ball

    I feel bad for Cleveland fans they lost their team to get I back finally to have this done to them

  68. I’ve never, before, seen a franchise quite like the Browns. They have taken ineptness to a new level.
    The General manager showed last year that he was in way over his head and seems quite comfortable establishing himself as a man that is out of touch with his responsibilities as a General Manager in the NFL.
    With a relatively new owner and the ineptness in the GM position, the fans of Cleveland should be prepared for a dismal season.

  69. genericcommenter says:
    Mar 11, 2016 10:54 PM

    They are a doing a long-term rebuild. I don’t think they are attempting to pull a 76ers or anything, but look for them to try to build through the draft and possibly end up with the first draft pick as their starting QB, with a lot of mid-tier pieces.

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    Anyone believing the Browns are “rebuilding” obviously didn’t watch the Browns. In order to “rebuild” there has to be something to tear down in the first place. They had one of the worst defenses in the NFL so anyone off that group is not a loss. Overspending on offensive lineman (plural) when they’re blocking for terrible QB’s like Brandon Weeden and Johnny Manziel…yeah that makes sense and Travis Benjamin is a punt returner. You can’t find those in the draft? No one wins anything overspending in free agency. Browns fans should know this since their team used to do it for the bulk of the mid 2000’s.

  70. At what point does the NFL step in and remove ownership of a team for incompetence? They’re so interested in ‘protecting the shield’, there must be some kind of clause covering this.

  71. I don’t know why Browns players and fans are confused. It’s pretty obvious what the plan is to me. They hired Paul DePodesta, a career baseball guy, to run the operation. Ryan Braun, Bryce Harper and Mike Trout are their targets and they needed to free up the cap space to sign them….

  72. All the headlines in free agency seem to be how terrible the Browns are going to be after losing these four players. I watched all the games. They were terrible with them. The agents are just angry that, for once, the dumb Browns aren’t leading the charge for the overpaid, over the hill vet and setting the price. While not signing Schwartz for the money does leave me scratching my head, all the other players simply aren’t worth the market rate.

  73. Its truly sad to be a Browns fan but they do have Lebron and the Mighty Cavs to make them feel better but unfortunatley baseball season is near and the Indians are going nowhere like the Browns.

  74. Apparently, they are using this Moneyball approach to guide their efforts. I think this is not baseball and this is a much harder thing to use to identify the right group of guys to make up a football team. Lombardi gave the best advice on football when he said that it is a game of running, blocking and tackling and the team that does that better will almost win. I’d throw in passing to the equation but the fundamentals are still drawn out for you. My sympathies to Brown’s fans that have to live through this next gadget philosophy to contribute to the woe the team has already felt.

  75. The Arena League uniforms were not the answer so getting rid of two great linemen were the next obvious step. Poor Joe Thomas. Maybe he’ll see a .500 season before he retires.

  76. All the headlines in free agency seem to be how terrible the Browns are going to be after losing these four players. I watched all the games. They were terrible with them. The agents are just angry that, for once, the dumb Browns aren’t leading the charge for the overpaid, over the hill vet and setting the price.
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    The browns were not bad because of these players, they were bad because they let good players go and replace with bad players (see TJ Ward).

    And while it is smart to not overpay, it’s also smart to lock up the good players. And the Browns have been roughly $20 under the salary cap. There’s no prize or benefit for being under the salary cap.

  77. pats are better than your team says:
    Mar 11, 2016 9:05 PM

    TheBrownsareClowns,

    When fans don’t show up, teams move. Go ahead and name any team, in any sport, where fan boycotts changed anything for the better.
    ————————————————-

    I guess you don’t remember when the NY Giants fans burn their tickets and hired a plane to fly over the stadium during a game with a banner saying”15years of lousy football..We’ve had enough!”
    Maybe the Browns could get some drones to fly over the factory of sadness during a game.

  78. You have to wonder at what point Cleveland fans will storm the Browns offices with pitchforks and torches?

  79. I think their players looked confused on the field as well! I don’t think anyone should assume they’re safe on a poor football team. It doesn’t make sense to over pay for mediocrity. No top tier teams are built through free agency but instead draft well and build from within.

  80. Unless the first game is next Sunday, it’s way too early to be this bothered by what they’re doing. It’s the same thing that teams like the Packers and Steelers do every year.

    Except they manage to have winning seasons and make the playoffs. They have a mass of Superbowl trophies to prove it. How does this equate to the Browns doing “the same thing”?

  81. I think this is the best step the browns have taken in a long time. They have a good coach, and now are going to start using their money intelligently. Stay patient browns fans, this may take 2-3 years, but I think results will come

  82. Actually, the media wants to know. So far, so good. No overspending, build through young free agents and draft. No more Bowes! I feel bad for Thomas and McCown as they won’t be around for the payoff. We finally have in place a team looking to the future, not ten minutes from now. Hope I’m still around to see the results!

  83. “Browns Players Confused By … [fill in the blank] … ” sounds like a headline the world has been reading for over half a century with no end in sight.

  84. I’m not sure why the national media wants to make such a big deal about us letting these people go. I don’t recall the Patriots, Broncos or Seahawks making any moves. Make no mistake we offered Mack And Swartz more money than they eventually signed for. Don’t fault this staff for clearing the locker room of people who want out anyway.

  85. In a planet far away, a parallel universe, and perhaps a frozen time, Browns dominate with opponents impaled in the Dog Pound. Year after year of domination, joyous and civil fans, bumbling opponents, envy of all, …

    Back to reality. Browns in continual turmoil, disgruntled and uncivil fans, humbling and bumbling mistakes, horrible draft choices and trades, players heading to exit the Mistake on the Lake, never recovered from Irsay’s betrayal, franchise extinction. Future generations will wonder what was a Cleveland Brown.

  86. I try not to get to disgusted at what they do and don’t do. I was never more mad at them than when they passed on Sammy Watkins the year that Gordon was gone for the year. What is funny is that Sashi Brown had just said that it was important to take care of the players that have been in the organization to let other players know they take care of their own. Then, pow, they withdraw the offer to Swartz, let Benjamin go, (and he had said he wanted to stay and was trying to get Marvin Jones from the Bengals to come here) Gipson didn’t really have that great of a year, and everyone knew that Mack was going to go. They don’t need to go spending just to spend, however, every year they have all this cap space and the team doesn’t get any better. Just show us some improvement. They have probably one of the most loyal fanbases in the league and all we get is 3-13. I just want them to be relevant again. PLEASE!

  87. laxer37 says: ……..And to think, this sorry organization has won a playoff game more recently than their cross-state rival Bengals……….
    =================================
    ……which makes it all the more strange that they would want to seemingly poach Bengals players and coaches, right ?

  88. OK, the Raiders, and Jaguars are starting to show signs of life, and may actually have good/descent seasons. The Browns, however, continuously, believe in not changing anything (except QBs 22 so far, and Coaches). This is truly the Factory of Sadness and has been for many years. I can see Adam Schefter was absolutely correct, when he stated players can’t wait until their contract is up, so they can leave. Maybe the franchise should move again. It worked for the Ravens. I know it’s transparent, but the team with the dullest uniforms and the blandest “no logo” helmets that resemble the color of crap, in the age of high definition tv, simply don’t get that they need an attitude adjustment. Can you believe they actually sued to keep the name Browns, which was the name of a former Coach who was actually also the first coach of their cross state rival? It is truly unfortunate that they will never get it and will always be the “Washington Generals” of the NFL. I pity Hue Jackson the latest coach.

  89. ^^^^ always the Washington Generals? You mean the franchise that won an NFL title in its first year in the league? hahaha ok

    I also find it funny when fans of teams like the Eagles, who won their last title when Ike was still president, or the Chargers, who won an AFL title and nothing else (in front of probably 20K fans) butts in.

    Yeah, we know what an easy target the Browns are, and what was stolen from us fans by Modell, etc., etc., etc.

    But we don’t whine about it (most of us anyway), even though things are so bad the Steelers now lead the all-time series.

    We’ll just keep supporting our team, with the hope it will turn around. I mean, it has to, right?

    Regardless, it’s better than having no NFL team at all, even if the one you have sucks.

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