Titans G.M. wants a “king’s ransom” for first overall pick

AP

The Titans are willing to trade down in the NFL draft. But only if someone wows them with an offer.

That’s the word from Titans G.M. Jon Robinson, who said at a Titans fan festival today that it would take a “king’s ransom” to give up the first overall pick.

“It would take a substantial amount of picks to do that,” Robinson said, via Paul Kuharsky of ESPN.

Most mock drafts have the Titans selecting Ole Miss offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil with the first overall pick, and that pick makes a lot of sense because the Titans are committed to improving the protection for quarterback Marcus Mariota. But there’s also been plenty of talk that some team will fall in love with North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz or Cal quarterback Jared Goff, and trade up to the first overall pick to get him.

If such a team exists, that team better be ready to give a whole lot of picks to the Titans.

75 responses to “Titans G.M. wants a “king’s ransom” for first overall pick

  1. Just don’t do what Ditka did with the Saints, which was trade all of their picks that year to get #1, and they selected Ricky Williams.

    Yeah, that worked out REAL well for them.

  2. If the Titans want Tunsil so bad why isn’t the team with second pick making some noise about trading down. One of the keys to making deals is to not give away your leverage.

  3. Bad year to have the number 1 pick. There’s nobody worth even thinking about trading up to the first pick for. This draft is deep at several different positions.

  4. In this draft, the number one overall pick is hardly worth a king’s ransom. Just keep your pick and go quietly into the night. You’ll have a number 3 pick next year.

  5. Rams got a kings ransom for the first pick. How did that work out for them ? The Rams still were horrible after getting all those first round picks and The Redskins were just as bad.

  6. There isnt anyone at the top of the draft worth paying a boatload for.

    All the QBs are garbage. All the Defensive players at top of draft are solid, but not giving up a bunch of picks for.

  7. Jalen Ramsey, Myles Jack, Laremy Tunsil. Cannot go wrong, but I guess Tunsil gives protection for Moriarto, but Myles and Ramsey hard to pass up!

  8. Titans GM Jon Robinson: If we trade far back out of No 1, want to make sure to get a “king’s ransom.” Said it would take a substantial amount of picks to do that.

    Robinson was commenting on moving way down, not saying what it would take to only move down a few spots.

    Example:
    LA Rams hold the 15th pick (Far back out).

    San Fran 49ers hold the 7th pick(Few spots down).

  9. That RG3 trade went really well for the Redskins, didn’t it?

    It’s seldom worth the extra picks to trade up. At least the trade up doesn’t come with a huge salary increase for the player taken higher.

  10. Let’s be honest, the titans know Cleveland is sitting at number two and wants a qb. They are trying to squeeze a couple of picks from them to move up one spot and get the qb that Tennessee knows they aren’t drafting. Classic leverage play.

  11. Remorse from last year when he could have fleeced Kelly. Sorry, you only get one chance at those.

  12. BREAKING NEWS: Elway trades the entire 2016 draft and their 2017 first round selection to draft Goff at #1.

  13. Imagine if they had the eagles first and second also and the defensive player of their choice from Philly. Id take all that over Mariota. Oh and the first from next year Chip Dip said

  14. Elway would never give away a ton of picks for a player. The only way to keep the cap under control is to have lot’s of draft picks make the team. You get 4 yr bargains on them.

    It’s why the Pats and the Broncos let players walk at just the right time. You get a comp pick for them and you use those picks to keep your team young and under the cap.

  15. He should have taken the deal Chip Kelly offered him last year. It just came out this past week that there was indeed an offer made by Philly to Tenn (for #2 over all) at the draft last year that included: trade of draft order positions, 2016’s #1 & #2 picks, a choice of running backs, a choice of quarterbacks, and any one defense of player they wanted. All of this for #2 overall in last years draft. This is the definition of a King’s Ransom!! The Titans were idiots for not taking this deal.

  16. Breaking News! Elway might not be anywhere close to a savvy excecutive some thought he was. He afterall, was willing to pay an unproven, 7 total games played backup qb 16 million per year. Not smart.

  17. .
    As a rookie GM who was trained under Belichick, Robinson is more likely to take a consensus ” sure thing ” with his first pick ever. The Belichick style is to be very conservative in the first round, which often means first rounders without the ” wow” factor ( Solder, Easley, McCourty). The second round is where Belichick takes some gambles. It’s either boon ( Gronkowski) or bust (Darius Butler et al).

    Besides, if Tunsil is that plug and play LT who becomes a fixture for a decade , it’s an outstanding choice.
    .

  18. The best QB in this draft will be the 4th or 5th QB drafted. Someone’s going to trade up to get the 2nd or 3rd best guy, when they could have stayed put and grabbed the number one guy. They just don’t know it yet. Someone like Elway might just sit back and snag the number one guy at the end of the round.

  19. Some very good players in the top 10.No franchise player in this draft so keep dreaming Titans…

  20. Saints traded entire draft to Washington, who loved this type of trade that they traded three #1’s and a #2 to the Rams who fleeced them. The Rams like this so much that they were able to fleece the Eagles by trading Sam Bradford, the reason they were able to fleece Washington.

    So don’t worry, there is some desperate team out there who pull a “Washington” or a “Viking” (see Herschel Walker)…

  21. Welcome to the Texans’ world. The two years they had #1 overall there wasn’t anyone worth using the pick on. And yes, that includes Bortles, Carr, Bridgewater, etc.

  22. Jerruh will move up to #1 & draft Wentz ahead of the Browns…
    Romo is done, with all his injuries & surgeries he’s at the end of his career.

  23. Ryan Clady and Denver’s entire 2016 draft selections.. Denver gets Goff with that Defense. And they’ll have all their future picks and Tenn gets a Veteran Tackle and a huge haul to build with..

  24. My Packers will do it. We need a new QB. Among other things.

  25. I’m a Colts fan and it’s infuriating to watch the Titans improve their offensive line the year after drafting their hopeful franchise QB, meanwhile, Indianapolis’s front office is wasting draft picks on wide receivers and Luck is constantly getting drilled. I’m just using this as any excuse to comment on how much I hate Ryan Grigson. He got 1 draft pick right his entire time there, it was a no brained with taking Luck.

  26. Jalen Ramsey and Myles jack are going to rewrite the definition of versatility, and awesomeness, so that when you look up those words in the book of diction it will say see: jalen ramsey, and myles jack. In fact I would take either of those guys over tunsil, and then draft a lineman in the second round, but im not a gm. i’m not.

  27. Of course Robinson is making these noises. He will, right up until the draft, when he will take the best deal offered unless he doesn’t think it is as good as drafting Tunsil. He may not be a genius at this but he is not stupid. Anyone who wants a QB and is not located on the banks of Lake Erie, has to trade up to make sure they get their guy. Cleveland has the luxury of waiting for one of the two who are top rated. They might as well do it that way since they have been incapable of making good picks in the first round.

  28. About once every 5 years College will produce one guy that is actually worth 2 other high picks. It’s so rare that it doesn’t make sense trying to chase that needle in a hay stack.

  29. They say when negotiating with a room full of people there is always one sucker in the group and if you can’t figure out who the sucker is, then it’s probably you!

    Tennessee was offered two 1st round picks, a 2nd round pick, and Fletcher Cox last year and passed.

    Now that shows me a couple things 1 Chip is stupid, 2 Tennessee is more stupid, 3 why bad franchises stay bad, and lightning doesn’t strike twice often so don’t expect a king’s ransom in a draft that doesn’t have Andrew luck or Peyton Manning!

    The Patriots pick in the bottom of the draft every year, yet they always finish at the top of the pack!

    If the draft order is supposed to create parity, why are bad teams always bad and good teams always good? The fact is drafting is a crap shoot so why pay a premium to roll the dice less times?

  30. This Draft is so deep, an early to mid level team is
    crazy not to trade back even OUT of the 1st round for extra picks. You could just about START a Defense this year!
    Unless one of the top two Receivers or Safeties are
    available I bet Minnesota trades their first round pick for extra 2nd, 3rd, and 6th rounders!

  31. They could trade Mariota to SF maybe for a ransom and then take their chances with a new QB. In their situation, it might actually help them though I expect that HC to be gone in two years max.

  32. Forget the “ransom”. Just swap places with Cleveland for a 6th and take Tunsil anyway. Then use the 6th for his backup.

  33. breadmeatcheese says:
    Mar 19, 2016 2:19 PM

    Jalen Ramsey and Myles jack are going to rewrite the definition of versatility, and awesomeness, so that when you look up those words in the book of diction it will say see: jalen ramsey, and myles jack. In fact I would take either of those guys over tunsil, and then draft a lineman in the second round, but im not a gm. i’m not.
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    You’d make a good GM.

  34. The Broncos, jets and Browns are the only teams that are pretty desperate for a QB. Maybe the 49ers. That’s the only position worth trading up for. No way the Broncos would, they would have to give up the entire franchise to move up that far.

  35. If the draft order is supposed to create parity, why are bad teams always bad and good teams always good? The fact is drafting is a crap shoot so why pay a premium to roll the dice less times?
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    The draft isn’t a crap shoot. The good teams are good because they have good personnel people and they consistently draft well. The bad teams are bad because they have bad personnel people and they blow it every year in the draft. There is always an exception like a team that has a QB like Tom Brady. They can make a lot of mistakes, but they’ll always win 10-12 games. Or like the Colts when they had Peyton Manning. He got hurt and they went 2-14. Manning or Brady can win you 10-12 games a year, even with a mediocre team.

  36. I’d like to think Robinson is just posturing for the fans, but history tells me a G.M. can screw up a draft. All the Titans can do is hope there is a bidding war. They are obligated to get something for the pick, but they have ZERO leverage.

    If Robinson manages to get nothing for a player he could’ve gotten later he’ll get G.M. of the year.

  37. I think it’s very likely Tennessee trades the pick. Goff and Wentz will be the top 2 picks, in some order (I prefer Goff). If there is a *potential* franchise QB in a draft, he will always go #1.

    From the low cost (relatively speaking) of a rookie QB’s contract to the importance of the position and not enough of them to go around, if there is a potential QB, some team will always trade up for him.

    If Cleveland really favors one QB over the other (and I’m sure they will by the time of the draft), they would be smart to trade up to that 1st pick. Since it’s only one spot, it probably wouldn’t cost them that much since TEN could still take the player they want (Tunsil) since everyone knows CLE is going QB and TEN doesn’t need one.

    But I wouldn’t risk losing out on the QB that I really want, even if that means trading a 2nd round pick to move up only one spot. It’s that important.

  38. Finish off the TT-O with a “no drops” Greg Olsen-quality TE, and augment TT-D with a “shut down” Revis-like CB. Titans will immediately win 9 games.

  39. coffeeblack95616 says:
    Mar 19, 2016 12:57 PM
    LOL, can any sports simpleton spell “king’s ransom” properly? Americans don’t even know how to use apostrophes anymore.
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    LOL… Do people that post comments on Sport sites even talk about sports anymore?

  40. Seems like a very foolish position to take by a G.M. of a team that has multiple holes to fill on the roster.

    By all means, the 1st pick in the draft should be worth a lot. I don’t expect the man to give it away. But considering that the Titans are set at QB, it makes far more sense for them to trade down and acquire extra day 1 picks to add more talent.

  41. The Titans don’t take a super deal last draft, so they can land Marcus Mariota at number two, and then still end up the worst team in the NFL the following year.

    If they would’ve taken the deal they could’ve ended up with a plethora more of good players including two or three potential great quarterbacks.

    If I’m the Titans GM. I’m firing myself for not taking advantage of an overly aggressive Chip Kelly who had no business having that much power.

  42. I’d like to see the Titans overplay their hand, like the Texans did a couple of years ago. How happy are they with Jadeveon Clowney?

  43. Wisconsin’s Favorite Son Jeffrey Be Dahmed says:
    Mar 19, 2016 2:16 PM

    My Packers will do it. We need a new QB. Among other things.

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    Packers fans have gotten so complacent about the QB position that it’s hilarious. Just wait. There’s a whole generation of Packers fans who have no idea what it feels like to watch your team flounder and go 6-10 year after year because they’re stuck in QB purgatory along with the other 2/3’s of the league.

    Rodgers is a top 3 QB in the league, and he will easily play at a high level for another 3-5 years. “We need a new QB.” lol. Yeah, I’m sure Wentz or Goff will be an upgrade over Rodgers… I love watching Rodgers play but I’m beginning to sympathize with the plight of Vikings fans. Greenbay’s fan base needs a dose of perspective.

  44. GB all ready drafted a QB last year, Brett Hundley out of UCLA was good in pre-season, and argued to be the 3rd best QB behind Winston and Mariotta. So TT can’t be too bad, he is all ready a couple steps a head of whereever you assumed he was.

  45. They should trade down one spot with the Browns for a reasonable extra pick. And then, they would still control the draft. Anyone wanting a quarterback after the first one is gone would have to go through them…or they could still take their man.

  46. dal1as says:
    Mar 19, 2016 4:17 PM
    The Broncos, jets and Browns are the only teams that are pretty desperate for a QB. Maybe the 49ers. That’s the only position worth trading up for. No way the Broncos would, they would have to give up the entire franchise to move up that far.

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    If the Bengals ever hope to win a playoff game they need a QB…. And after watching Newton self-destruct in the SB and then jump away from his own fumble the Panthers should consider a real QB as well.

  47. Non – STORY…there is no stand out #1 pick …& Tennessee ownership is in shambles. Factory of Sadness PT#2, just in a wayyyyy cooler city.

  48. Chargers will move to 7 with the niners if Cleveland lands Wentz so they can get Goff. Unless Dallas wants to live up 1 but I think we get a better package from the niners plus they should not be that good this year means better placement in the draft colored to Dallas in the weak ass NFC east division which anyone can win.
    I think we can still get who we want at 7 (Buckner or Stanley) and pick up a two this year and a one next year. Worst case a 2&3 this year and a 2 next year. I would do it and then this team will be set going forward with packaging a few of our picks this year to get back into round 1 and even another 2 or 3 so we can have our DEs and our center, tackle and WR. Then we can wait till next year when we can get our next QB by trading up for one and dish that 2nd we receive this year. Nice QBs coming out next year. Bout 5-6 in round 1.Clemson, ASU, Michigan, Oklahona, and or the Iowa guys It’s a shame UClA guy Rosen has one more year 2018 but he will be a #1 overall and that is the guy we should prime for but don’t want to experience another year like we just did to get a QB we need to hit playoffs this year so we can keep our dam team. Go bolts.⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️

  49. People tend to always bring up when it didn’t go well but how about when it did? See Julio jones..also ask the Bucs was it worth not giving up three picks for Calvin Johnson, FYI those three picks amounted to nothing.

  50. nhpats says:
    Mar 19, 2016 8:19 PM

    If the Bengals ever hope to win a playoff game they need a QB…. And after watching Newton self-destruct in the SB and then jump away from his own fumble the Panthers should consider a real QB as well.

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    I’m not much of a Cam Newton fan either (a big too flashy smug for my taste), but he did lead his team to a 15-1 season and he was the NFL MVP so… I would say that counts as a “real QB.”

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