Browns are making calls to gather info about Robert Griffin III

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Like the Jets a week ago, the Browns brought in quarterback Robert Griffin III for a visit. Like the Jets visit a week ago, Griffin’s visit to the Browns was aimed at allowing the team to do its due diligence regarding the second overall pick in the 2012 draft.

Unlike the Jets, the Browns are doing more extensive homework on Griffin.

A source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that the Browns are making calls to people who know Griffin to find out who may know more about the player and, specifically, his character. (That could make for an awkward conversation if the Browns call former Cleveland offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, who was Griffin’s first offensive coordinator in the NFL and who spent a season in Cleveland that ended under unusual circumstances.)

The Browns reportedly are willing to give up a third-round pick to acquire quarterback Colin Kaepernick from the 49ers, but Kaepernick reportedly isn’t willing to reduce his $12 million salary far enough to get the deal done. The interest in Griffin, who can be acquired without compensation to any team and surely at far less than $12 million, could be aimed at getting Kaepernick to blink.

And if Kaepernick doesn’t blink, the Browns possibly will give Griffin a chance to turn around his career with a franchise that has been trying to turn itself around for more than a decade.

118 responses to “Browns are making calls to gather info about Robert Griffin III

  1. The Browns are the only team out there pathetic enough that RGIII would be an upgrade. Seems to make sense for both parties, leaving SF to eat Kaepernick’s contract.

  2. I want to use a #1 to draft a bust QB, to maintain their perfect record in futility.
    On the other hand, I’m fine with them throwing away a 3rd round pick on RG3, then having to draft a QB next year after RG3 turns out to be a bust with them.

  3. @intrafinesse…..In your haste to dis both RG III and the Browns you fail to realize that RG III is a free agent and would cost the Browns nothing but cash.

  4. intrafinesse says:
    Mar 20, 2016 11:16 AM

    I want to use a #1 to draft a bust QB, to maintain their perfect record in futility.
    On the other hand, I’m fine with them throwing away a 3rd round pick on RG3, then having to draft a QB next year after RG3 turns out to be a bust with them.
    _________________________________

    Wow. Read much ???? RG3 won’t cost them anything other than $. It’s Kap who they would need the 3rd round pick on. I know its early on Sunday, but really.

  5. RG 111, they had the worst qbs in the NFL. And now they can have a decent qb, don’t do it. The Browns suck. Like the other guy said , Broncos will be calling.

  6. the Browns want to know his character?

    he ‘s a prima donna who wants to do it all himself, he thinks he can run against an NFL secondary the same way he ran against 19 year olds in college, then he gets seriously hurt and misses half the season, he hasn’t learned the NFL pocket passing role and continually acts like he has nothing to learn, so now he’s a scrambling QB without about 1/3 of his mobility and after 4 years he’s basically a passing rookie

  7. Hue Jackson might be a big piece to changing this team around and I think RG3 needs fresh start…everyone deserves awesome chance. Everyone got nothing to lose!

  8. If Hue Jackson could help “Mr. Ego” Chad Johnson be successfull, maybe he’s the one to help RG3 regain his success.

  9. its nice to think of Robert making a comeback and getting a fresh start and turning the Browns into a Cinderfella story….but ain’t gonna happen…at least not with Robert. He has a Massive EGO and this will not allow him to progress because he doesn’t recognize his own limitations and weakness. He also thinks he is a 16 million dollar QB so money will also be a problem with him until he comes down from his cloud and accepts a backup position for 2-3 million per year. Otherwise his career is over.

  10. It figures that the stupid Browns would even consider signing this guy instead of drafting a QB at number 2. Only in Cleveland. The analytics computer must have a virus because adding RGIII is insane.

  11. When the rest of the league seems to have finally fallen out of love with the otherwise limited skills athletic running QB’s (Vince Young, Manziel, Kap, RG3, Vick, Smith etc.) and come to their senses that you need a QB that has some real skills (along with a brain)…..along comes the Browns and interest in RG3. The league should do Browns fans a favor and contract the team like MLB did with the Expos. For sure Cleveland deserves a team……but also a new owner.

  12. stoneydog1000 says:
    Mar 20, 2016 11:34 AM
    If Hue Jackson could help “Mr. Ego” Chad Johnson be successfull, maybe he’s the one to help RG3 regain his success.
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    RG3’s legs are shot….and that’s the only skill he ever possessed, the ability to run.

  13. “Since no professional football team wanted me, I decided to sign with the Cleveland Browns.” -RG3

  14. All of you have to know that Jay Gruden and Hue Jackson where both on the Bengals staff at the same time and Hue got Jays old job when Jay became a head coach for the Redskins? I do not know what kind of relationship they had but if it is the least bit professional then Hue only needs to make one phone call.

  15. Good. Sign him. We’ll need two qbs to get the snot kicked out of them this year. Let’s keep that seat nice and warm for…, deshaun Watson. After going 1-15 this year we’ll be in perfect position for a guy who looks a lot more like a franchise qb then the projects this year. Let’s get Ramsey or a boat load of picks and trade down this year and get our guy after next year. And if for some reason rg3 becomes the player people thought he was, Browns are in a better position then they could have dreamt of.

  16. Oh, I’ve seen all three and can tell you that Robert Griffin III makes you laugh and cry a little but is not as good as the original, and not even the same guy as when I saw Robert Griffin II…

  17. Google “RG3 open receivers”…

    If that isn’t enough homework for any professional football team, then the person making football decisions for said team needs to be fired!

    Why did the Redskins get rid of him? Do you think they would have gotten rid of him if there were any chance he could play?

  18. Here’s how that conversation goes.

    Browns; How is he in the locker room?
    ex coach; Terrible;
    Browns; Great he’ll fit right in. Check!

    Browns; How is he on the field?
    Ex Coach; Terrible
    Browns; Great he’ll fit right in. Check!

    Browns; How is he with the press?
    Ex Coach; Terrible
    Browns; Great he’ll fit right in. Check!

  19. thejuddstir says:
    Mar 20, 2016 11:43 AM
    The league should do Browns fans a favor and contract the team like MLB did with the Expos. For sure Cleveland deserves a team……but also a new owner.
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    The Expos were moved to Washington and are now known as the Nationals.

    So are you saying the league should move the Browns? Maybe move them to Baltimore and maybe call them the Ravens…. Oh wait…

  20. So this is the football version of moneyball? Suddenly info gathering is > than film and past performance?

  21. What does either side really have to lose if he signs with the Browns? If they aren’t sold on a QB with the #2 pick then they may as well take the best available and bring RG3 to compete with a second round QB. The Browns need talent at all positions.

  22. The Browns have nothing to lose by signing him. He showed some potential his rookie year before being derailed by incompetent coaching and his own stubbornness to rush back too soon. However I think it would be smarter for Griffin to go to a stable team with an aging, fragile, or soon to be free agent QB. That way he could learn the system, rehab his image, and get himself right physically/mentally before being thrown into the fire. The Browns are not that team.

  23. Interesting hat with the “toxic” warning. Coincidence? Methinks not.
    Wait, is that Eddie Murphy??

  24. richk412 says:
    Mar 20, 2016 11:35 AM
    It figures that the stupid Browns would even consider signing this guy instead of drafting a QB at number 2. Only in Cleveland. The analytics computer must have a virus because adding RGIII is insane.
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    Who said the Browns won’t draft a QB @ 2? RG3 will get high-end backup money until he proves himself. Why not draft a QB at 2 or 32 and arm yourself with some options. Bottom line is picking up RG3 doesn’t mean they be drafting a top QB prospect.

  25. Aahhhh, the wonderful stupidity of 95% of these posts. Reading you clowns doesn’t waste my time at all. So what? Sign him. Didn’t cost you anything, he makes a good back up for Goff or Wentz and can start here and there when the kids need a break. GEEEE…what a CRAZY move. When the team is rebuilding, it’s the perfect situation for him, he isn’t expected to win.
    Idiots.

  26. officialgame says:
    Mar 20, 2016 12:17 PM
    “Maybe they are calling Kyle” ….
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    Did you think of that by yourself or did you read the article like the rest of us?

  27. Hue Jackson is the kind of coach who could believe he can turn these guys around. Maybe they arent taking a QB in the 1st round for now because they know they will draft high again in 2017. So this year could be aimed at refurbishing the roster and not let a Goff or Wentz struggle every step of this rebuild thing.

  28. Would this just be the most fitting signing thus far in ’16 or what? Half of the league is desperate for better QB play and this guy hasn’t been signed yet. That’s all you need to know.

  29. Sign RGIII or Kap, then take Lynch or Cook in the second round, or a bit later? If one doesn’t work out, maybe the other does. They’re all different QB’s from McCown, so not sure what the offense looks like.

  30. shady voice: psst hey coach, RGIII once paid the 6″ price for a footlong italian bmt!

    hue: bwaaahahahah, yes yes! This is what will get us RGIII. PEP! where are you? get over here idiot! prepare the documents to transmit to RGIII secret agent via direct fiber optic link.

    pep: yesssssss my lord, hisssssssss

    hue: did you just hiss?

    pep: thats what all evil minions do, hisssssss.

    hue: I should have hired the homeless guy.

  31. Can they make rgarbage3 articles without his picture for now on? Gruesomes face will shatter my phone screen eventually. Please put a picture of a paper bag in its place for now on.

  32. Doesn’t matter what they do, whatever qb they start will be running for his life behind a bad Oline, with no weapons to throw too. Whoever starts is going to get David Carred

  33. All they need to do is review his injury history and then have another look at the defenses of their division rivals.

  34. The Browns have absolutely nothing to lose in this. Hue Jackson could probably be of benefit to RG3, and the last person I would talk to is Kyle Shanahan. He’s had issues everywhere he’s been, including this past season with Roddy White.

  35. They just got rid of one drama queen…why would they want to bring in another one?

  36. Robert wants to prove himself so badly, and his ego/pride is going to have him working for the Baylor broadcast team soon. He should find a team with a veteran QB in good standing with players around the league. He needs to learn about being a pro QB. He spent too much time in a drama circus in Snyder’s circus show. Continue to evolve his game and let the knee and body get even more healthy. Look for a new gig in 2-3 seasons.

  37. Can’t they just run this through their analytics machine? Is it broke already and management doesn’t want to pay to have it fixed?

  38. loserslovetobringupcapgate says:
    Mar 20, 2016 12:17 PM
    thejuddstir says:
    Mar 20, 2016 11:43 AM
    The league should do Browns fans a favor and contract the team like MLB did with the Expos. For sure Cleveland deserves a team……but also a new owner.
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    The Expos were moved to Washington and are now known as the Nationals.

    So are you saying the league should move the Browns? Maybe move them to Baltimore and maybe call them the Ravens…. Oh wait…
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    Read the damn post. I said Cleveland deserves the team, just a new owner. The point I was making with contraction is that the NFL should run the team…..not Haslam. Unfortunately some people find the need to jump on any comment that doesn’t spell everything out to them.

  39. So, he “isn’t willing to reduce his $12 million salary far enough.” This from a guy with no job. Delusional.

    reread the article…. wrong guy. that was about Kap, who still has a job… but thanks for playing.

  40. I feel its worth the risk.

    What i feel is RG3 big fault is thinking he is bigger than the team/game. Perhaps sitting on that Washington sideline for a year, and watching UFA QB after UFA QB getting signed, will be the kick in the ass he needed. RG3 isn’t a stupid person, big ego sure, stubborn for sure but he isn’t stupid. Bring him in, give him close to zero in guaranteed money and see what you got.

  41. Both suck.

    If I had to choose one… and it’s like choosing between syphilis and gonorrhea, I’d choose RGIII.

    That said, I’d rather not have either.

    Both suck.

    RGIII has lost a good deal of his athleticism. He’s now injury prone. He isn’t a good leader. His knee(s) look structurally weak… which means I think he’ll blow it out again (or the other one) easily.

    RGIII’s game was using his legs to create opportunity. Scare defenders into coming off receivers or running backs out of the backfield because they had to stop RGIII. That fear isn’t there. Those opportunities aren’t there. That mojo he inflicted on other teams is gone. Teams know they can knock him around.

    What happens when a running QB’s mojo is gone? They HAVE to become pocket passers… except almost none ever can do it because they generally are very poor at being a pocket passer. That’s why when they lose their legs, they’re done.

    They tried to make him a pocket passer, and he sucked.

    Now why would I choose him over Kaepernick. Because Kaepernick sucks worse and still has all his parts working. He is mentally shot. He still tends to want to crawl back into a shell. He’s kind of a headcase on and off the field. He isn’t accurate. He cannot make multiple reads and choose correctly consistently.

    But he too, may be starting to break down. He had offseason surgery, and lord knows if he stays with the 49ers and has to run like crazy in Chip’s offense behind that nothing line… he’s screwed.

    He took the league by storm because he was put in a few games before the playoffs and they caught lightning in the bottle. But teams have figured him out.

    Additional factors are… you’d have to trade a good pick for him and take on a salary far larger.

    Put that all together, and I’d rather have RGIII. But they both suck. They both have plenty of film on how to stop them now.

    But overall, they should smart enough to look elsewhere. Kaepernick and RGIII aren’t the Browns salvation. Quite the opposite. The Browns only shot at having a future QB is to draft one. Maybe the guy they select doesn’t pan out. But Kaep and RGIII sure won’t.

    How long are they going to last in a decimated Cleveland roster? The moneyball morons think you can just strip away guys and put new ones in. They don’t realize it’s a lot different in the NFL (and the A’s never won a championship under moneyball either).

    The whole purpose of moneyball was to ‘compete’ against the bigger money clubs… like the Yankees. Well… with the salary cap, it’s not about money in the NFL. Every team can spend to that cap, because they take in more then the cap just from TV rights.

    They let all those guys go AND cut good players. It’ll take them a year or two just to replace that amount of guys. Maybe longer.

    These morons let Mack go… and they are considering drafting a QB or signing RGIII or trading for Kaep? Talk about dumb.

    Plus when they want to sign some guys, they aren’t always going to be available. You don’t get rid of good players to ‘save money’ when you don’t need to ‘save money’ because you are well under the cap, and you have plenty of money to spend to the cap. Especially when those players could be key in keeping your QB upright. Or a receiver worth a dang to throw to. Will GB continue his ascension as a TE? Hey, you never know. But you can’t dump 35 passes a game to him.

    It’s like they decided to knock out a support post, and add a 2nd story addition above the garage, right before buying a new car. SMART!

    But hey, I’m sure they got another speech to give. That they’ll have the last laugh… because they are the only ones who can utilize metrics! Smart teams, use both, but error on the side of football people with minds. They don’t jump off the deep end and believe numbers over the human mind. Morons do that.

    The sad thing is, they think they got an edge, when they really don’t, and they convinced an owner that they do, because he likely doesn’t know squat. They baffled him with bull. It all sounded so good. They were the smartest guys in the room.

    So do your due diligence on RGIII. You should pretty much already know. He sucks. He’s not a leader. He throws teammates under the bus. His knees are fragile. He’s lost his mojo. Do your due diligence and you’re likely to find out… that’s all true. But hey, at least you are doing it.

    But… if you do it, and make the move anyways, isn’t that a lot like paying for a report that red flagged Manziel, but was drafted anyways?

    Also I’m pretty sure he’s not going to want to be taken by a club who is about to draft a QB with it’s first round pick. Not unless you are willing to say RGIII is emphatically the starter this year and perhaps beyond. If you don’t do that, you are asking for trouble. If you decide to go with RGIII and not draft a QB, then that’s one helluva mistake as well.

    Get the QB you want. See how the draft plays out. If nothing happens and time has passed, you can still get RGIII later. He’ll still suck just as much, but at least you’d be going to him after exhausting every other option and at a timeframe which shows he should be thinking he’s the backup and be accepting of that before he comes in. If he’s gone, then you dodged a bullet. RGIII isn’t a guy you should fret over.

    Getting him NOW or soon sends the message that he is the starter. Not smart, especially with a guy like RGIII.

    Do what you need to do, and THEN if he’s still available… after the Titans maybe trade the #1 pick and that team takes your guy… it’s more understandable. But right now the Browns are in the enviable position to either draft the #1 or #2 QB in the draft. It’s no guarantee, but overthinking things and screwing up because you don’t take one would be the bigger sin.

    Hell, you are going to suck massively next year anyways. You can draft another QB if you need to next year. But take a shot now and if needed, later. It’s in your hands now, take the shot.

  42. jolly1234 says:
    Mar 20, 2016 11:13 AM
    The Browns are the only team out there pathetic enough that RGIII would be an upgrade. Seems to make sense for both parties, leaving SF to eat Kaepernick’s contract.

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    This is so false. Are you telling me RGIII would not be an upgrade over Geno Smith or a clavicle-less Tony Romo? Heck, I’d say he is an upgrade over plenty of QBs including those who chronically choke in the postseason such as Andy Dalton.

  43. Wow, this seems serious. Never underestimate a QB and coach from the same cultural backround. It can work wonders!

    So I guess RG3 signs with Cle; Kaep stays put, and runs TRUE version of Chipper’s offense (more gap-creating qb run plays); FitzTastic paired with Sanchez; Geno for the Jets?

    Does CLE draft Jalen Ramsey or Myles Jack then? Would make a mean pair with Joe Haden if he stays!

  44. Please, please, please take him….. This would be the greatest landing spot ever for that spoiled brat! Plus I hear Cleveland has plenty of subways.

  45. Browns don’t have much to lose and they’re locked in a division with 3 currently nasty and talented teams – Roll. The. Dice!
    It’s the off-season and people need to have more fun with it – he was fun to watch before he got hurt

  46. The last time the Browns did due diligence on a QB, they spent $100K. Then they ignored it.

    So, Browns fans better hope this report should not be taken as a sign of anything.

  47. intrafinesse says:
    Mar 20, 2016 11:16 AM
    I want to use a #1 to draft a bust QB, to maintain their perfect record in futility.
    On the other hand, I’m fine with them throwing away a 3rd round pick on RG3, then having to draft a QB next year after RG3 turns out to be a bust with them

    This is about as dumb as voting for Hillary

  48. Leave it to the Browns to live up to their ‘Factory of Sadness’ moniker. Instead of drafting a promising young quarterback like Carson Wentz or Jared Goff, they decide to bring in a proven bust from another teams scrap-heap. Now watch Wentz get drafted by Dallas and go on to a stellar career, with the Cleveland Browns kicking themselves…again.

  49. Analyticalally there are only two questions to be asked: Is he cheap enough and will he suck enough to get the number one pick next year when there will be better QB’s available. Answer yes to both and sign him up.

  50. Wentz going on to the cowterds and having a wonderful career is the funniest thing written all day. The cowterds will be marred in futility for another 20 years because jerrah is staying put.

  51. The Browns have plenty of cap space. They should sign Ryan Fitzpatrick as a high end stop gap QB to replace Josh McCown a low end stop gap QB. This year’s draft is weak at QB so the Browns should use pick 2 on someone like Bosa or Ramsey. Take a WR at top of the 2nd round. They’ll finish last in the AFCN again so wait til a better QB year to draft their franchise QB.

  52. Find a team and a coach that will run a version of the 2012 Redskin offense. RG3 can be successfull if he is all in like he was through his first year.Snyder, RG2 and RG3 believed he was a dropback QB like Aaron Rodgers in 2012. He should know that he wasn’t ready. Ask Jay Gruden as well as his teammates. He should be humbled and know that the Shanahans were trying to help him. The injuries are just an excuse for him not wanting to run the offense he was great at. Never had running skills just speed. One of the reasons Shanahan did not want to give up what they gave up and signed Cousins.

  53. This is for you Mr. thejudstir:
    Concerning your statement:
    When the rest of the league seems to have finally fallen out of love with the otherwise limited skills athletic running QB’s (Vince Young, Manziel, Kap, RG3, Vick, Smith etc.) and come to their senses that you need a QB that has some real skills (along with a brain)…

    You are behind the times my friend and don’t quite realize what is actually taking place in the league today!!! You are quoting what has been stated for the last 20 years BUT THE FACTS SPEAK OTHERWISE!!!

    The last 4 superbowls have featured a young mobile QB and NOT a young college”pro style” trained pocket passer. ZERO. The only pocket passers to maker it there of late are much older experienced elite type QB’s like Brady and Manning. If the pro style QB’s are so pro ready, then why are they NOT getting to the SB. Why are they getting whipped by the same aged mobile QB’s? Also, there are a lot of young mobile QB’s starting for teams now. It is becoming more of the norm. Don’t listen to everything you hear in these blogs and by reporters. They like you keep perpetuating a myth. Which I might believe myself if the facts were not starting to speak otherwise. Hmmmmm.

  54. RG3 was humble and nothing but a solid teammate his last year. Nothing to lose if they get RG3 on the cheap. After watching some of the horrible QB play last year he’s going to be an upgrade for some team.

  55. thejuddstir says:
    Mar 20, 2016 1:22 PM
    loserslovetobringupcapgate says:
    Mar 20, 2016 12:17 PM
    thejuddstir says:
    Mar 20, 2016 11:43 AM
    The league should do Browns fans a favor and contract the team like MLB did with the Expos. For sure Cleveland deserves a team……but also a new owner.
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    The Expos were moved to Washington and are now known as the Nationals.

    So are you saying the league should move the Browns? Maybe move them to Baltimore and maybe call them the Ravens…. Oh wait…
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    Read the damn post. I said Cleveland deserves the team, just a new owner. The point I was making with contraction is that the NFL should run the team…..not Haslam. Unfortunately some people find the need to jump on any comment that doesn’t spell everything out to them.
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    Then maybe you should have been a little more clear… IF you read what you wrote, you implicitly implied the Expos were contracted. So based off of that blatantly incorrect statement, it’s easy to deduce the rest of your ramblings were off base as well. Maybe proofread next time.

  56. I actually like the RG1.5 play to the Klowns and they get deeper “thru the draft”.. The only thing is, they have to hit on almost every player & TAKE THE BEST PLAYERS AVAILABLE at the time their picks come up…… Enough of drafting guys from across the county that don’t wanna play in Cleveland, Ohio… Time to start getting some Buckeyes–

  57. All of the Browns bashers on this site have a total IQ of 0! It’s really easy to hate on a team that’s been bad for so long. Don’t forget that they have fans that love their team win, lose or draw! The fans are the suffering ones the last 25 years. Leave our team alone and concentrate on your own team!

  58. I hope this happens! And I am not a Brown’s fan. But if RG3 can team up again with Josh Gordon (Baylor). And help keep him on the straight and narrow. And if the Browns smartly draft Ezekiel Elliot from OSU to help power Hue Jacksons offense with RG & Josh. They could be fun & exciting to watch with that young stud laden defense. If RG3 helps put Cleveland on the playoff map. And God forbid; get them to a Super Bowl or win it. He’d go from goat to God overnight. And he’d be the toast of Lake Erie forever! JUST DO IT!

  59. So a bunch of guys who drink and can’t play in the NFL are crapping on a guy who drinks and can’t play in the NFL. Better get back to performing your brain surgery or splitting your atoms geniuses.

  60. All anyone needs to know about bob griffin is that he has horse teeth, he can’t read defenses, and he’ll never be an effective NFL quarterback.

  61. Sorry Browns fans. Looks like another long year. Team is scraping bottom already and they haven’t even hit the draft yet.

  62. The Browns are making calls? To who? They have a fully staffed personnel department, and every tape of RG3’s from college to pro, and they’re making calls to talk to people? Please tell me that isn’t true, because if it is, the Browns are in big trouble. Because it is the Browns, I think it might be true. Sad franchise. Look at the tape. Your eyes won’t deceive you. Pick up the phone, your ears might deceive you. I know the Browns hired some brilliant people. Some numbers guys. Some baseball guys. I hope they have a football guy that knows how to look at tape.

  63. Difference between the Browns and Broncos. Browns feel kapernick worth high 3rd round pick Denver says low 4th round pick. Now they want RGIII total stooge of an organization. Too bad Ohio has some of the best football fans in America.

  64. The Browns will make 3 calls.

    Call 1-Mike Shanahan. They will ask him what went wrong and why Griffin was never able to transition from Read Option QB to Drop Back West Coast QB. Shanahan will respond that Griffin believed he was a finished product, and didn’t need to put in the work to learn the timing and footwork required.

    Call 2-Jay Gruden. They will ask him why Griffin seemed to Regress under him. He will answer that Griffin believed he was a finished product, and didn’t need to put in the work to learn the timing and footwork required.

    Call 3-Scot McCloughan. They will ask him why he decided to quickly move on from Griffin upon watching him in Training Camp. He will answer that Griffin does not possess the ability to learn the quarterback position in the professional game.

    Griffin is a nice enough guy, but a horrible teammate and a monster egomaniac. If you want to see what you are getting when you sign him, watch his workout video he made prior to the 2013 training camp. He had someone follow him around with a video camera and record him working out. A very interesting thing to note. There are NO teammates around him while he is working out.

  65. Whatever, enjoy yet another 4-10 season. The Factory of Sadness continues to churn out it’s fine product!

  66. win or lose football is entertainment. people surely forget the true point in watching. Yes I enjoy if the browns win but if they lose so be it. its no the end of the world . Bottomline at the end of the year 31 teams are losers and only 1 team is champion. u can go 16-0 and lose in the playoffs. well guess what your a loser.

  67. Why not? It’s obvious they are rebuilding and to those who seem not to understand the concept-they traded away the older players and the ones who wanted to move on. No point in paying big bucks to keep someone who isn’t going to be with you when it all comes together in 3 or 4 years. Besides that, despite all the talk, the fact is Alex Mack and the Brown’s O line sucked last year. Didn’t y’all notice how many times McCown got hurt, sacked, and oh, there was NO running game either. That wasn’t the fault of McCown or the running backs completely. I like the idea of giving RGIII another opportunity. Maybe he learned from sitting on the bench for a year but either way, it would free us up from taking another first round QB (please God no) and we can just draft the best player available everytime. (Bosa, Spencer, Elliot, Ramsey…lots of good players available). If it doesn’t work, there’s always next year. (rolls eyes and sighs)

  68. For any other team, I would think it would be a good move, if they had the roster that Cleveland does.

    After taking a big swing and miss on Manziel, the last thing they need is another “personality” at QB. Too much spotlight there.

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