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Report: Broncos were concerned about Robert Griffin’s character

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The Browns landed quarterback Robert Griffin III in part because no one else wanted him. Specifically, because the Broncos didn’t want him.

Griffin definitely was interested in the Broncos; he grew up a fan of the team. The problem for Griffin is that the coach and G.M. of the Broncos have ties that are too close to Griffin’s first coach in the NFL.

As explained by Mike Klis of 9News.com, the Broncos considered Griffin but ultimately opted not to pursue him.

“[A]fter making a few phone calls, Elway was concerned about Griffin’s character,” Klis writes. “Elway never did express interest in the former Washington quarterback who was the NFL’s Rookie of the Year in 2012 but had several fallouts with Coach Mike Shanahan, offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan and teammates.”

While Klis never makes the express connection between Elway, Broncos coach Gary Kubiak, and Mike Shanahan, that link doesn’t need to made for a Denver audience. Broncos fans know that Elway was the quarterback, Kubiak was the coordinator, and Shanahan was the coach for the team’s back-to-back championships in 1997 and 1998.

Clearly, Elway and Kubiak spoke to Shanahan. Even more clearly, Shanahan had things to say about Griffin that kept the Broncos from even doing an independent tire kicking by bringing Griffin in for a visit.

Whether they made the right call will depend in large part on how Griffin performs for Cleveland — and how whoever becomes the quarterback in Denver performs in 2016.

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  1. willycents says: Mar 25, 2016 8:43 AM

    Uhhh, I don’t think Shanahan was the quarterback on the Super Bowl winning teams. I seem to remember that he was the coach.

  2. jonathankrobinson424 says: Mar 25, 2016 8:46 AM

    ….in the regular working world of today , if a ex-boss is called to verify employement and the ex-boss talks about your character….that’s grounds for legal action. Again the NFL lives in it’s own world.

  3. camcameronsucks says: Mar 25, 2016 8:49 AM

    “Broncos fans know that Elway was the quarterback, Kubiak was the coordinator, and Shanahan was the quarterback for the team’s back-to-back championships in 1997 and 1998.”

    Wait… the Broncos had 2 starting quarterbacks playing simultaneously in Elway and Shanahan?

  4. rickastleydancemoves says: Mar 25, 2016 8:51 AM

    I’m not understanding. Has RG3 ever been in trouble with the law? Oh he hasn’t? That seems like there would be a issue with his personality or ego, no character. Perfect mix of racism and cronyism, but y’all don’t want to talk about that.

  5. jjb0811 says: Mar 25, 2016 8:52 AM

    Shanny had to cheat the salary cap w/ a HoF QB to win. Way overrated as a coach. His son has never done anything as a OC but has the last name which gives him a job automatically.

  6. chriskap11 says: Mar 25, 2016 8:54 AM

    A lot of times the success of players largely depends on the system they play in. RGIII could very well excel in Cleveland with a OC who understands his skill set and more importantly is willing to set the offense around it.

  7. plum54 says: Mar 25, 2016 8:55 AM

    This coming from a team that circumvented the salary cap ? How rich!

  8. xavier179 says: Mar 25, 2016 8:58 AM

    This is rich, a team that condoned salary cap violations and had two very cheap shot artists on their defense this last season, and all of a sudden they are worried about character…ha!

  9. conormacleod says: Mar 25, 2016 9:02 AM

    The Broncos didn’t need to speak with anybody to know RG is a train wreck. Everybody, including us, knows that. Well, everybody except the Browns of course. They live in a bubble.

  10. loserslovetobringupcapgate says: Mar 25, 2016 9:02 AM

    When your own teammates come out publicly and state that he wasn’t liked, do you think it was only the coaches? Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

    He’s now in Cleveland, where QB’s go to kill any last remnants of their career….. If they even ever have an remnants to kill off.

    RGIII was injured behind an ok O-line. In Cleveland, there’s NO WAY he makes it through an entire season healthy.

  11. floriosnuts says: Mar 25, 2016 9:02 AM

    I picture Elway saying these things about RGme while holding a timber full of scotch at 9:30 on a Tuesday morning.

  12. tommikula says: Mar 25, 2016 9:03 AM

    I am just going to say the Browns lose out on this just because it involves the Broncos in some way. Anytime it is Broncos/Browns the Broncos always come out on top. References: Peyton Hillis, 2 AFC Championship games, pretty much every regular season meeting between the two teams.

    Browns Fan😦

  13. asparatame says: Mar 25, 2016 9:10 AM

    People can change. I would root for a humble and dedicated Griffin sans logo.
    We’ll see.

  14. 4sacroc says: Mar 25, 2016 9:12 AM

    Shanahan is the problem, not Griffin.

    Character issues? Please.

  15. pats are better than your team says: Mar 25, 2016 9:13 AM

    How nice that they took time away from greasing jerseys and cheating the salary cap to speak about someone else’s character.

  16. kapy01 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:13 AM

    I am pretty sure character isn’t that important to the broncos. They did after all get manning.

  17. chris6523 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:14 AM

    I might be wrong about this, but didn’t the Elway/Shanahan relationship turn a little bit sour at the end?

  18. seabrawk12 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:17 AM

    I’m sure they’ll be much better off with Sanchez.

  19. therealtrenches says: Mar 25, 2016 9:18 AM

    Of course they were. They didn’t bite and the Browns did.

    And this is one small case study in the difference between teams that consistently stay in the top tier like Denver and teams that don’t, like the Browns.

  20. lightcleric says: Mar 25, 2016 9:19 AM

    Griffin’s ego caused problems in Washington but it seems like he may have actually been humbled after he was benched and kept quiet pretty much the entire season.

    Contrast that with Atlanta where you can see yet another train wreck engineered by Kyle Shanahan and it’s not hard to see who the real prick is in this situation.

  21. DaveKShape says: Mar 25, 2016 9:19 AM

    There are two sides to every story, but the way RG3 talks, you would figure he wasn’t benched because he was playing terribly. Which he was. He looked completely lost in that Detroit preseason game.

  22. philvil41 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:21 AM

    They clearly should have questions about his character. I’ve never seen a player make every situation worse after having a press conference . Griffin is an idiot and will never change.

  23. stealthjunk says: Mar 25, 2016 9:22 AM

    The issue isn’t someone’s personality when things are good, it’s when they’re tough that true personality comes out. Shannahan saw that side of him more than anyone.

  24. keys2heat says: Mar 25, 2016 9:22 AM

    “[A]fter making a few phone calls, Elway was concerned about Griffin’s character,” Klis writes. “Elway never did express interest in the former Washington quarterback who was the NFL’s Rookie of the Year in 2012 but had several fallouts with Coach Mike Shanahan, offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan and teammates.”

    The actual quote is “[A]fter making a few phone calls, Elway was concerned about Griffin’s character,” Klis writes. “Elway never did express interest in the former REDSKIN quarterback who was the NFL’s Rookie of the Year in 2012 but had several fallouts with Coach Mike Shanahan, offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan and teammates.”

    ……straight from the Denver Post; thanks for trying to worm your agenda into Klis’s (PROTECTED) words.

  25. buckstalion12965 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:24 AM

    One doesn’t need to have close ties the Shanahas to see that Griffin didn’t accept coaching from 2 different coaching staffs, can’t read defenses, has no pocket presence, and regularly blames his coaches and teammates for his failures. Gee…what’s not to like?

  26. pastorfootball says: Mar 25, 2016 9:28 AM

    I realize that Griffin has had his struggles on the field, but, seriously, what character flaws? Now, Johnny Manziel…there’s an example of a flawed character. It was obvious to everyone that daddy Shanahan and daddy’s boy never wanted him in Washington from the start. I still think Griffin can succeed if a team is willing to put a system in place that plays to his strengths. He’s better off without Elway breathing down his neck.

  27. bayousooner90 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:29 AM

    The Broncos in great shape with Gary Kubiak and Mark Sanchez, takes you back to the glory days of Josh McDaniel and Tim TeBow…

  28. thudspeth says: Mar 25, 2016 9:29 AM

    The first thing Denver has done right this off season.

  29. 12brichandfamous says: Mar 25, 2016 9:30 AM

    RGIII is gift that just keeps on giving

  30. supra23 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:30 AM

    This seems like common sense to me. How was there any rumors of RG3 to the Broncos amazes me. Its well known Shannahan didnt want RG3 and that was pushed by Snyder. Shannahan wanted Cousins the whole time and was proven right. What a dysfunctional org.

  31. rhamrhoddy says: Mar 25, 2016 9:31 AM

    Report: Broncos were concerned about Robert Griffin’s character

    Broncos fans know that Elway was the quarterback, Kubiak was the coordinator, and Shanahan was the coach for the team’s back-to-back championships in 1997 and 1998.
    ________________
    This team won those 2 Super Bowls using rosters that had more star players on it than the rules allowed and lost future draft picks as a result.

    I realize this isn’t nearly as reprehensible as the NFL deeming it more probable than not that someone was generally aware of something the league WANTED to have happened but never did.

    But the Broncos just don’t come to mind when I think of a high character organization.

  32. nhpats says: Mar 25, 2016 9:32 AM

    The Bengals should have pickup RGIII. Instead they are planning to roll the dice with a guy who will never win a postseason game. Oh well….

  33. lonespeed says: Mar 25, 2016 9:32 AM

    I have no affection to any of the teams involved, but due to the media muckraking, I hope he proves everyone wrong. If he doesn’t then maybe he deserved the criticism. But I hope he rebounds just so everyone who likes to point fingers can swallow there criticisms for once.

  34. ariani1985 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:32 AM

    Letting RG3 WIPES pass was a smart move!

  35. mpaige87 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:37 AM

    I thought Kubiak was the Back up QB?

  36. kcchefs58 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:38 AM

    They’re just saying that, because he didn’t end up signing with the Broncos. It’s like asking a girl out and after getting rejected, you say you didn’t even want to go out with her anyway.

  37. admiral174 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:38 AM

    You can’t get in legal trouble if you speak the truth of him which seems very well established.

  38. thejuddstir says: Mar 25, 2016 9:38 AM

    Not a Broncos or Browns fan, just an NFL fan but I think the Broncos (and other NFL teams) did do complete due diligence as it relates to Griffin’s skills and character and thus no other team pursued him. The Browns did the Jerry Jones diligence, thinking they are smarter than all the other teams and that they could maximize his skills and change his character. As Jerry Jones likes to say, “we have the staff and support system in place blah blah blah”.

  39. crazyallives says: Mar 25, 2016 9:41 AM

    Denver made the right choice.

  40. kcflake says: Mar 25, 2016 9:42 AM

    Sooooo Aqib Talib has acceptable character but Griffen is not?????

  41. crush22 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:42 AM

    That’s what you get when you come in to the league thinking you are the second coming and end up being a bust.

  42. pft264 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:42 AM

    You expect Elway & Kubiak to perform due diligence on any player they bring in, right? Part of that is talking to previous coaches.

    In 2012, Mike & Kyle Shanahan enabled Griffin by installing an offense he could excel in. Griffin performed excellently & earned rookie of the year. Harmony in DC.

    Then Griffin & his dad demanded a different style offense that he couldn’t run. Griffin ignored the chain of command & complained directly to the team owner about the coaches (remember, the Griffin’s are a military family). Griffin never performed like 2012 & was the clear catalyst that got Mike & Kyle Shanahan fired.

    For 2 years, Jay Gruden tried to work w/ Griffin. Griffin’s performance, or lack thereof, kept him from succeeding in a pass heavy offense. A novice could see he lacked pocket awareness that created sacks (despite his mobility). A novice could see he failed to read defenses & failed in his receiver progressions.

    How could anyone be surprised Denver took a pass on Griffin?

  43. vegaskid21 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:42 AM

    Sure they weren’t. Cleveland just beat Denver to the Punch. Horse head had to think of something to say. Enjoy having buttfumble as your qb. Ha!

  44. baddegg says: Mar 25, 2016 9:50 AM

    It’s fine to say that Broncos didn’t pull the trigger on Griffin due to a Shanahan bias. However, the larger fact remains that NO ONE other than the Browns were interested. What does that tell you?

  45. broncosaddict says: Mar 25, 2016 9:52 AM

    jonathankrobinson424 says:
    Mar 25, 2016 8:46 AM
    ….in the regular working world of today , if a ex-boss is called to verify employement and the ex-boss talks about your character….that’s grounds for legal action. Again the NFL lives in it’s own world.

    I don’t believe that applies here. The Redskins would have been called to verify employment and if they commented on his character you would be correct, however Shanahan is no longer an employee so they can call him and talk about anything.

  46. lbcoach34 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:53 AM

    “Clearly, Elway and Kubiak spoke to Shanahan”

    how is it clear????

  47. boltergeist19 says: Mar 25, 2016 9:53 AM

    Vegas has a bet over / under on how many games RG3 plays this year. It’s is at 7 right now for even $.

  48. brentspeckmannbutthumps says: Mar 25, 2016 9:56 AM

    I used to work with a 65 yr old man who used to live in Breckenridge and claims that once snorted lines with Elway his rookie year. I think everyone has “character issues” when they’re early 20’s with boatloads of money and talent, and enabled they’re whole life

  49. surfinbird1 says: Mar 25, 2016 10:00 AM

    Broncos worried about character, that’s a hoot. The front office is drunk half the time, cheating on the cap. Google Shanahans cheating days. Griffin should have been concerned about the Broncos character.

  50. hazmatt23 says: Mar 25, 2016 10:00 AM

    willycents says:
    Mar 25, 2016 8:43 AM
    Uhhh, I don’t think Shanahan was the quarterback on the Super Bowl winning teams. I seem to remember that he was the coach.
    __________________________________

    Ugh. You’re going to make me feel dirty and defend the Patriots, aren’t you? Belichick isn’t the QB, so his rings don’t matter?

  51. 6thsense10 says: Mar 25, 2016 10:00 AM

    jonathankrobinson424 says:
    Mar 25, 2016 8:46 AM
    ….in the regular working world of today , if a ex-boss is called to verify employement and the ex-boss talks about your character….that’s grounds for legal action. Again the NFL lives in it’s own world.
    ———-
    Not quit true. It’s only grounds for legal action if what was said wasn’t true. I think most people incorrectly believe that companies can’t do this because the companies decided on their own that the POSSIBILITY of a lawsuit wasn’t worth it because at the end of the day what is the benefit of giving a bad assessment about an ex employee to the company? They gain nothing whether or not they give a truthful review and can possibly be sued if any representative of the company gives a bad review. Just because a person sues doesn’t mean they will win….especially if the company has documentation to back up the information they provided. But why go through the head ache?

  52. snowdood163 says: Mar 25, 2016 10:02 AM

    vegaskid21 says:
    Mar 25, 2016 9:42 AM

    Sure they weren’t. Cleveland just beat Denver to the Punch. Horse head had to think of something to say. Enjoy having buttfumble as your qb. Ha!

    You’re really stupid. It said right at the beginning of the article that RG3 had interest in the Broncos. He didn’t have interest in the Browns until he realized they were the only ones legitimately interested. “Horse Head” doesn’t need to find anything to say. He can very quietly push his resume (or the most recent Lombardi trophy) to the edge of his desk, allowing them to say everything.

  53. Rdog says: Mar 25, 2016 10:12 AM

    So I guess we’ll rule out Kaepernick then

  54. realfootballfan says: Mar 25, 2016 10:14 AM

    Except Elway doesn’t exactly like Shanahan himself. Anyone who knows anything about the Broncos past the national media platitudes knows this. He didn’t come to run the team until Shanahan had gotten fired despite being asked to for years by Bowlen, and his teammates have intimated over the years that the relationship wasn’t on the friendliest terms when he retired, Eddie Kennison even going so far as to say Shanahan is the reason he did retire when he did. Ever notice that Elway never brings Shanahan up anytime during his philosophical musings as a personnel man? Most people would find that curious that you never bring up the guy who you had a lot of your success with as a player and who the media kept telling you was your best friend for years despite it actually not being true. I think Elway simply isn’t the biggest fan of a QB who has already had 2 major knee injuries and isn’t even 26 yet, which is the biggest concern I’d have if I was Cleveland and am only going to have a 3rd or 4th round QB on the roster to accompany him, which is the direction I think they will be going because they have way too many holes to be reaching on these mediocre QB prospects at the top of this draft with so many other premium players there.

  55. rainsarge says: Mar 25, 2016 10:15 AM

    Shanahan didn’t want RG3 he wanted Cousins. Not surprisingly his relationship with RG3 was filled with mistrust and RG3 failed.
    Now he feels vindicated because Gruden saved Cousins career. However the last thing Shanahan needs is RG3 to walk on the Broncos, who play a familiar offense, and do well. That would show he was the problem not Griffin.

  56. elevandoo says: Mar 25, 2016 10:18 AM

    Rg3 is a bad bet. I’d take sanchez over him. Denver is either going to end up with kapernick or fitz, too, depending on what the jets do.

  57. fmc651 says: Mar 25, 2016 10:24 AM

    This is a reach of a story. Shanahan must have been busy lately because most of the NFL teams weren’t interested in RGme. He played himself that is why few teams were interested.

  58. doggeatdogg says: Mar 25, 2016 10:26 AM

    Character: ego? They all have ego. Work ethics? Never heard he was lazy. Treating family badly? Nope. Frustrated with himself and the team? It would be a problem if he wasn’t. Drugs and alcohol Nope. Style of play? Has nothing to do with character. Shortcomings in his ability to run a certain type of offense, yes. But that goes to performance and talent.

    What issues then? Maybe one. That he was enabled by the owner and this contributing to his diva attitude and letting his father to have too much say ultimately getting a coach fired. But this is something that could have been remedied through negotiations and terms of agreement with the player.

  59. swolecatblog says: Mar 25, 2016 10:27 AM

    The bookends — how you start and how you end your relationship with your boss (or anyone, for that matter) are the most important aspects of any relationship and Griffin owns responsibility for his predicament. Sitting in front of his then head coach and telling him which plays are “acceptable” and which are not moving forward is clearly signs of an ego out of control. Dan Snyder owns the other part of the responsibility for enabling that feeling in Robert that he was bigger than his head coach.

  60. jcrileyesq says: Mar 25, 2016 10:28 AM

    bottom line-
    Griffin character> Talib and Miller character
    Talib and Miller talent> Griffin talent

  61. conjecture101 says: Mar 25, 2016 10:29 AM

    I wish Al Davis was alive to take a call about Shanahan’s character. Luckily, Hue Jackson – who just signed Griffin – knew Al pretty well.

  62. igornathanhiggers says: Mar 25, 2016 10:32 AM

    Google “RG3 open receivers”… take special notice of how many times the pass protection was solid and you’ll understand why Chris Cooley said his offensive line didn’t like him…

    Among the sea of examples, find the one against the Broncos in 2014. The one with Garcon streaking up the middle wide open for a TD and Morgan running the wheel route to Griffins right without a defender within 15 yards of him. Oh and Griffin has great GREAT protection…

    Please tell me who the hell he’s looking at and why this play was a sack instead of a TD(Garcon) or at least a 20yd gain(Morgan) if not more…

  63. shadywarrior says: Mar 25, 2016 10:33 AM

    I’d be more concerned about his butter-soft Twitter posts of inspirational quotes that sound like something you’d see on a poster in your high school guidance counselor’s office.

  64. maestro1899 says: Mar 25, 2016 10:34 AM

    I’m not so sure that John Elway was soliciting advice from Mke Shannaahan.

    Everyone here in Colorado knows that Shannahan and Elway had a falling out stemming from Elway. According to local media, this was because Elway took his time with his retirement decision and Shanny didn’t like that.

    Now, their relationship has thawed and they are most definitely cordial, but I don’t think Elway is looking for Shanny’s advice. Kubiak might be, but not Elway.

    It was no coincidence that Elway didn’t come back until AFTER Shanny left. Some people might think that’s because Shanny was also the GM (and then McDaniels ran the whole show as well), but remember, Elway came back as a front office executive (VP), not the GM, so there was room for both. There was also talk in the mid-2000’s (Shanny/Plummer era) that Shanny wanted Elway around the team but Elway refused.

  65. newsletterczar says: Mar 25, 2016 10:35 AM

    Without saying that RGIII does not shares some of the blame for the way things went in Washington (because there is plenty of blame to go around when you go from 10-6 to 3-13) I have to wonder if Shanahan said to Elway “yeah we had no depth, the defense was below average and our special teams where the worst in the league; if I did not have the rookie of the year playing for me in 2012 I would have gotten fired one year sooner”.

  66. whispersd says: Mar 25, 2016 10:45 AM

    jonathankrobinson424 says:
    Mar 25, 2016 8:46 AM

    ….in the regular working world of today , if a ex-boss is called to verify employement and the ex-boss talks about your character….that’s grounds for legal action. Again the NFL lives in it’s own world.

    Huh?
    What’s the point of having letters of recommendation then?
    At some point the First Amendment has to kick in here. Mike Shanahan has a Constitutional right to tell John Elway what he thinks of Robert Griffin’s character.

    Shanahan is still loved in Denver. And his history with RG3 is well known. There was no way Elway was going to try to work with the guy who got his mentor fired in DC.

  67. 6jaws9 says: Mar 25, 2016 10:46 AM

    So RG3 will make $22.75 million in 2 years,( last year 16 million, 6.75 million this year) and won’t sniff the field. Nice gig.

  68. whispersd says: Mar 25, 2016 10:48 AM

    “I have to wonder if Shanahan said to Elway “yeah we had no depth, the defense was below average and our special teams where the worst in the league; if I did not have the rookie of the year playing for me in 2012 I would have gotten fired one year sooner”.

    RG3 was the rookie of the year in 2012 because Shanahan devised an offense around him and coached the entire team into the playoffs.

    Based on the self-pitying mewlings we’re still hearing from RG3, I don’t see him achieving success in the train wreck that is the Cleveland Browns.

  69. fansince68 says: Mar 25, 2016 10:48 AM

    Try not to forget that Denver makes moves to win Super Bowls and Cleveland makes moves to…keep being Cleveland. RGIII is not a good fit there.

  70. jjackwagon says: Mar 25, 2016 10:52 AM

    Elway was concerned about Griffin’s character,”

    Laughable…if anything Griffin should have had concerns about Elway’s character.

    The idea that Master Splinter still has any control over Broncos personnel decisions is equally laughable.

    Without Terrelle Davis neither has any SB rings even with their cheating.

  71. kcflake says: Mar 25, 2016 10:53 AM

    As a Chiefs Fan, I would like to advise the Broncos to roll with Mark Sanchez. That would be Fun to watch.

  72. boston444 says: Mar 25, 2016 11:01 AM

    Only reason they won was because Elway had half the cap charge he should have and was paid under the table because they “had to build a new stadium” and claimed it to be “an accounting snafu”. Riiiight. Broncos are the most cheating franchise of all time. Don’t believe me? Go to yourteamcheats(dot com) and see for yourself

  73. 23rdusernameused says: Mar 25, 2016 11:08 AM

    chriskap11 says:
    “A lot of times the success of players largely depends on the system they play in. RGIII could very well excel in Cleveland with a OC who understands his skill set and more importantly is willing to set the offense around it.”

    UNTIL (it will happen, it’s not a if but a when) he gets hurt, again, AGAIN, AGAIN!

    He just cannot avoid injury creating contact, at all! Or his bones are made out of twigs!

    He’ll be hurt by week 4 or 5, like others have said, ESPECIALLY in the AFC north!! Burfict and Jones are gonna kill this tool bag!

  74. arvinkp says: Mar 25, 2016 11:09 AM

    Kinda ironic that Elway has a concern about a young QB’s character, when I remember a certain QB (Elway) in the 1983 draft that refused to play with the team that drafted him.

  75. allaineff says: Mar 25, 2016 11:10 AM

    And so, here we go right on que. Y’all just will not leave this boy alone, will you? Piss on what the Broncos were concerned about. Do your thing Robert. Just do your thing! Oh, and whatever you do, give the media the Marshawn treatment. After all they’re giving you the treatment!

  76. Underdawgs says: Mar 25, 2016 11:11 AM

    At least Elway didn’t have any character concerns coming out of Stanford………

  77. domedaddy says: Mar 25, 2016 11:18 AM

    From Manziel to RGME. That is quite an upgrade for the Clowns, yes?

  78. PFT loves the Steelers says: Mar 25, 2016 11:22 AM

    loserslovetobringupcapgate says:
    Mar 25, 2016 9:02 AM
    When your own teammates come out publicly and state that he wasn’t liked, do you think it was only the coaches? Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
    ______________________

    What teammates said that? Quick google search shows nothing.

  79. jag1959 says: Mar 25, 2016 11:22 AM

    willycents says:
    Mar 25, 2016 8:43 AM
    Uhhh, I don’t think Shanahan was the quarterback on the Super Bowl winning teams. I seem to remember that he was the coach.
    _______________

    Reading is fundamental, comprehension alas remains optional

  80. stiffarm13 says: Mar 25, 2016 11:24 AM

    Advice from the Shanahan’s ?….yikes….the kid is awful , disliked by many wherever he’s been….and the old man is the one with the character issues…..you don’t see anyone hiring the power hungry basket case do you …. Another senseless story

  81. skinsfan91 says: Mar 25, 2016 11:26 AM

    I think the Rams should have grabbed him.

  82. devindenv says: Mar 25, 2016 11:43 AM

    Correct Headline should read: “Shanahan Blackballs RGIII”. If the Broncos were concerned with “character issues”, Talib, Ward, and Von Miller would be gone.

  83. tdrizzle74 says: Mar 25, 2016 11:46 AM

    If you want to play for the Browns…that means no one else wants you.

  84. cfos00 says: Mar 25, 2016 12:00 PM

    I don’t know that there is a word strong enough to describe how much RGIII seems to be hated by Shanny. He had good reason to as well. He really was the one guy who could have worked with Griffin and made him useful in the NFL, and RGIII and his Dad fought him the entire way until they go him fired. Shanny and his son actually ran the best system that RGIII could have hoped to play in, and RGIII crapped all over him. The second Elway called him, he was done. But he didn’t need to call him to know that…he could have just listened to the time last year when Shanny called into the DC ESPN station and gave a 2 hour long interview just completely destroying RGIII.

    But he didn’t even need to just take Shanny’s word for it. Former teammates blasted him publicly. Coach Gruden absolutely destroyed him in a press conference after a game, saying high school kids don’t make the kinds of mistakes he was making routinely. The radio analyst Chris Cooley tried to grade the offense like he usually does, explaining routes, reads, what qbs would be looking at and ruling out, and where the ball should go, but couldn’t even grade the rest of the team because Griffin was so bad. When the best thing that you can say about a player is that they took a benching well, that player shouldn’t be considered another team’s answer. Good luck Cleveland.

  85. lapantherfan86 says: Mar 25, 2016 12:07 PM

    The Broncos being concerned about character issues is worse that Johnny football being concerned about other people’s drinking.

  86. thetooloftools says: Mar 25, 2016 12:08 PM

    Congratulations to The Denver Broncos for winning the Super Bowl. Love or hate John Elway, you have to respect what he has built.

  87. nativetexan2012 says: Mar 25, 2016 12:11 PM

    Anyone who kept up with what went on in DC in 2014, let alone when Shanahan was coach, knows that there are legitimate questions about RG3. His work ethic and his relationship with teammates were ongoing issues. His own comments during 2014 would give me pause about bringing him in. There have been plenty of red flags. I don’t blame Elway for not wanting to bring the kind of drama we’ve seen in Washington to Denver.

  88. bocabob12 says: Mar 25, 2016 12:23 PM

    this isnt a newsworthy topic. can we please talk about PSI some more?

  89. ravensrooster94 says: Mar 25, 2016 12:29 PM

    The only character flaw I know of is his fascination with mirrors.

  90. araidersfan says: Mar 25, 2016 12:30 PM

    I have nothing against RG3 but I think that he’s going to have major problems in Cleveland because Hue Jackson is as much of an egomaniac & control freak as the Rat…and Jackson is also certifiably crazy.

  91. vikinganswer says: Mar 25, 2016 12:36 PM

    Of all his faults as a QB, I see character as not 1 of them.

  92. bigbenh8tr says: Mar 25, 2016 12:47 PM

    I hope he can turn his career around.

    Glad the browns did their homework instead of calling griffins dad like the redskins repeatedly did

  93. nativetexan2012 says: Mar 25, 2016 12:52 PM

    Lack of work ethic, thinking you’re the best QB in the NFL when your last season was an epic fail, and poor relationships with teammates are character issues.

  94. BroncosCheatedTheSalaryCap says: Mar 25, 2016 1:03 PM

    Their GM cheated and took money under the table to circumvent the cap during their first two SBs. Their best defensive player this year bribed an NFL PED urine tester. Their QB for this SB admitted to having HGH delivered to his house. Now they’re concerned about character? Haha. That’s rich.

  95. corporatemediaprostitute says: Mar 25, 2016 1:06 PM

    I don’t believe anything any Shanahan says about anything… Ever!

  96. kissmysandwich says: Mar 25, 2016 1:16 PM

    Anyone actually paying attention to RGME knows this is true. This is why Denver wins divisions, conferences, and Super Bowls, and the Browns….are the Browns. RGME is trapped in his ego that he grew in college. Until his answers become, I HAVE TO GET BETTER, he won’t. Feel bad for Browns fans. One stupid move after another with that organization.

  97. skins1970 says: Mar 25, 2016 1:19 PM

    The only teammate that said anything about RG3 not being well liked was Chris Cooley. Other teammates and ex Teammates have said Cooley’s comments were false.

  98. swolecatblog says: Mar 25, 2016 1:39 PM

    another thing that annoyed fans about Griffin was that he kept talking about Baylor — even well into his third year he would reference how they did things at Baylor. It’s ironic that his best professional year — the season that landed his cleats and jersey in Canton was under Mike & Kyle Shanahan.

    I sincerely hope he does well in Cleveland He seems like a really nice guy and he’s definitely very smart having graduated HS early and graduated from Baylor in just 3 years with a 3.67 GPA. It took me 5 years and I wasn’t playing football at the same time, lol

  99. nativetexan2012 says: Mar 25, 2016 1:45 PM

    What the Broncos are concerned about is a QB creating drama and problems in the locker room. Anyone who has looked at game film from 2014 would have serious questions about his ability to be a pocket passer also. Then there’s his propensity for injury. Broncos aren’t the only team that passed on him.

  100. nativetexan2012 says: Mar 25, 2016 1:50 PM

    Not true. There have been teammates who’ve spoken out about RG3. There was a lot of talk in 2014, and we all saw the pressers where he was throwing his teammates under the bus. Not saying no one supported him, but there was plenty of locker room drama.

  101. metalman5150 says: Mar 25, 2016 2:00 PM

    Robert just did not grow up quickly enough to handle his inexperience and earning curves, that the NFL was quick to exploit.

    Great Guy, YES.
    Terrific guy – if he learns to let the drama go.

  102. charge1 says: Mar 25, 2016 2:15 PM

    Haters there was no salary cap that year. You can’t cheat something that doesn’t exist. Also you can always ask a previous boss about an employees work ethic and attitude. Have you never filled out a job application? Rg3 had his father telling the coaching staff what plays to run. It was his idea to become a pocket passer which he is terrible at.

  103. gmailcom1650 says: Mar 25, 2016 2:19 PM

    Griffin came out of one his crap games, post rookie season, taking the wrong drops, no reading the passing tree, being inaccurate

    And was still so full of it, that in the post game press conference, he compared himself to Brady and Manning.

    But threw his teammates under the bus adding the difference was that they had players around them performing well.

    This was with all the money and the key to the city. Now in Cleveland of all places, he is going to find success? I dont think so. Very doubtful here.

    If he has his rookie year abilities back, and can do that while remaining healthy. I can see it. But i dont think either of those prerequisites are there.

  104. thiruc says: Mar 25, 2016 2:22 PM

    If a player is not a good fit to a team, be it character, performance, attitude, etc. etc., Denver exercised its option not to select RG3. And I believe RG3 is not a team-player.

    Good luck to him and the Cleveland Browns.

  105. eyeandfootballofhorus says: Mar 25, 2016 2:22 PM

    cleveland is just the place for him, if he had to be in the NFL…i suspect he’ll go the way of johnny highball. if he really improves, the way of michael vick (without the convictions)

  106. oldcracker says: Mar 25, 2016 2:46 PM

    After putting up with Pettine and Manziel, Bob should be a piece of cake.

    Also remember, Mike Holmgren tried to draft Griffin, Washington just outbid Cleveland. He must’ve seen something in him. (Yes, and Colt was only a 3rd rounder)

    It’s a low risk/high reward possibility, and it didn’t cost us a single draft pick. Let’s see what Hue can do.

    Good luck to Bob Griffin and the Browns.

  107. keys2heat says: Mar 25, 2016 2:57 PM

    Unfortunately, RG3 couldn’t handle being second fiddle to Ovechkin, Wall, and Harper in DC. Best of luck in Cleveland and hail to the Redskins.

  108. harveyredman says: Mar 25, 2016 3:25 PM

    shadywarrior says:
    Mar 25, 2016 10:33 AM
    I’d be more concerned about his butter-soft Twitter posts of inspirational quotes that sound like something you’d see on a poster in your high school guidance counselor’s office.
    ________________________________

    Yes, please enlighten us what “hard” quotes have inspired you to reach levels only attained by anyone who has never amounted to anything.

    I mean RGIII is just a “loser”, right?! He only graduated College which was paid for, he won the Heisman trophy, was selected #2 (and signed and received $20M in payment), won Offensive ROY while have the historically best Rookie season of any QB in the history of the NFL, and while falling from grace has secured another job and a guarantee of another ~ $7M. Oh, did I mention he has a contract with Adidas…?!

    Clearly, his “butter-soft” quotes have been a dismal failure. In fact, there’s ones and twos of people who have done better in life than him… And you ain’t them.

    SMH. Nothing like a Dumb, working stiff offering his two cents (which he has to borrow cause he’s broke) on a work-class success and multi-deca millionaire.

    Donald Drumpf voter no doubt.

  109. psubeerman21 says: Mar 25, 2016 3:27 PM

    Or they could have looked at game film from last year. Was there any?

  110. jrterrier5 says: Mar 25, 2016 3:28 PM

    The Broncos, who greased their jerseys in the playoffs, violated the salary cap the years they won the SB, and had Peyton (who teabagged or at least exposed himself to a female trainer & used HGH) on their team., had concerns.

    Ha, ha, ha.

  111. thirdistheworrd says: Mar 25, 2016 3:33 PM

    Jjb– Kyle shanahan has NEVER*, in his 9 years as an OC, had a team finish outside the top 10 in total offense. *– not counting Kyle, Mike, and Bob’s nightmarish final year in DC. This is a fact.

  112. Николай Тимофеевич Станошек says: Mar 25, 2016 3:37 PM

    More excuses why they can’t get a qb signed. Elway is showing a pattern of throwing qbs under the bus when he can’t get them.

  113. bigbroncomama says: Mar 25, 2016 3:39 PM

    How Sweet it is! You know you’re number 1 when all the other straggler/losers hate everything about you including an 18 year old minor salary cap violation. Really?? Seriouslly?? Is that the best you got??

    Haters, kiss my rings!!

    Big Bronco Mama

  114. senatorblutarsky says: Mar 25, 2016 3:46 PM

    It’s shocking that bob griffin has a job in the NFL. This speaks directly to the desperation of the Cleveland Browns. There goes another $15 million down the drain.

  115. scrotiemcb says: Mar 25, 2016 4:49 PM

    The craziest thing Denver did when they conspired to cheat the salary cap is submit those contracts to be reviewed and approved by the league and then brag to the media about the player friendly element of deferred compensation.

    Everybody knows that if you’re gonna cheat, you have to be totally transparent and you have to bring as much attention to your dirty deeds as possible.

  116. straitouttacharleston says: Mar 25, 2016 5:03 PM

    The hate is palpable.

  117. plum54 says: Mar 25, 2016 5:16 PM

    Big bronco mama: a ” minor salary cap violation” ?? They were fine almost a MILLION big ones!!
    Don’t forget the rules had to be rewritten due to Von Miller bribing the urine taker, that is why his violation for PED use was increased from 4 to 6 games!!!!

  118. selfpromotingqb says: Mar 25, 2016 5:16 PM

    I hear the Browns signed him to get out of doing hard knocks

  119. jmdanieli says: Mar 25, 2016 5:17 PM

    On September 17, 2004, the league announced that, for the second time in three years, the Denver Broncos were fined nearly a million dollars and would, once again, lose their third-round draft pick because of salary cap violations between 1996 and 1998.

    Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis contended that the Broncos’ circumvention of the salary cap helped them win the Super Bowl in the 1997 and 1998 seasons.
    ==================================
    that is not Minor!!

  120. slick50ks says: Mar 25, 2016 5:23 PM

    The irony is thick in this one.

    That donkey defense was by far the dirtiest in the league, several years running.

    I won’t even bring up all the chop blocks. Low character indeed.

  121. dalvar1001 says: Mar 25, 2016 5:29 PM

    RG III signed where all marginal QB’s go to finish their career’s. Should be happy he took some more guaranteed cash and is that much closer to life after football.

  122. danm1978 says: Mar 25, 2016 5:31 PM

    mpaige87 says:
    Mar 25, 2016 9:37 AM
    I thought Kubiak was the Back up QB?
    ———————-
    Kubiak retired from playing a few years before that.

  123. evansvc says: Mar 25, 2016 6:10 PM

    Shanahan remind me of Jeff Fish. He almost ruined Robert Griffin’s NFL career.
    It’s okay to get other coaches opinions, but at the end of the day, you have to make your own decisions. Elway, you should have brought in RG3 for a tryout.,,.

  124. campcouch says: Mar 25, 2016 6:15 PM

    Never heard of the man’s character being questioned. Bumping heads with coaches, not taking to coaching, running at the jibs…yes, but he’s been a stand up guy and has not conducted himself as a criminal. I know Von Miller redeemed himself after the urine pump, but he still did it. Aqib Talib was involved in crime time off field and admitted to nearly ripping another player’s head off. Heck, one of their players passed due to a fracas at a night club, but Griffin has character issues? Peyton got Vanderjagt blackballed from the NFL and is tied to two (unproven) scandals. Silliness. The Browns got a former ROY for backup money. Even if he fails they’re not bankrupted. If he succeeds, he’s on the cheap. Sour grapes perhaps.

  125. allinskins says: Mar 25, 2016 6:25 PM

    RGIII has the goods bottom line but needed a new opportunity. Hue would be smart to a chapter out panthers offense and sprinkle a little of Seattle play- action pass game. If he is not injured he is still playing and Shanny is still coaching. Now it’s time to reinvent yourself.

  126. don444 says: Mar 25, 2016 6:45 PM

    First poster is a moron, can’t read. Lots of differing opinions out there on both Griffin’s character and his overall ability, will be interesting to see where career goes after a completely lost year. Hue Jackson/Pep Hamilton or not his time in Cleveland will almost undoubtedly be very short if they go forward with apparent plan to draft QB in first round (even if they trade out of no.2 slot), good chance he might not even finish 2016 as starter in that scenario.

  127. usmc47 says: Mar 25, 2016 7:16 PM

    Shanahan should NEVER get another job after putting RG3 in that playoff game WITH ONE LEG!!! That alone makes me take the Griffin’s side over ANYTHING the Shanahan’s say.

    Btw, Kyle Shanahan is doing a bang up job with Matt Ryan. ::sarcasm::

  128. nativetexan2012 says: Mar 25, 2016 8:17 PM

    Hate? Is that a code word for racism? Few people hate RG3. Let’s not pretend that Bob’s race has anything to do with this for most people. He had a horrible 2014 season. He’s had problems transitioning into an NFL QB (his idea to become a pocket passer), and he’s injury prone. His ego seems out of sync with what’s happened the last 2 years, and his teammates weren’t happy with him. That’s the reason only one team was willing to sign him.

  129. lambeaudungbarn says: Mar 25, 2016 8:37 PM

    I wouldn’t have RG3 over anybody….but Manziel

  130. laserw says: Mar 25, 2016 10:11 PM

    None of the issues that the Great Gimmick had at Baylor were ever corrected when he came to the pros. Honestly, if you watched him play, his only strength was using his legs to buy him time to wait for a receiver to break open. He can’t read a defense, can’t understand a playbook and put it into operation, and is blind to even obvious pass rushes.

    This jerk is such a wretched QB that a one legged Joe Theisman would be more effective.

  131. cardinal333333 says: Mar 26, 2016 12:58 AM

    I heard Elways relationship with Shanahan fell apart when Elway separated from his wife and Shanahan still remained friends with Janet. Nothing to do with football!

  132. penguinfan2016 says: Mar 26, 2016 8:27 AM

    I’m a Pittsburgh fan so I do hate the Browns but when he’s playing anybody but Pittsburgh I wish him well.
    I am not that suprised no on else took the risk…Dont necessarily agree with what might have been done to prevent him from getting a job in Denver but heck it could work out. The man has a clean slate and can prove people wrong

  133. kcalb33055 says: Mar 26, 2016 10:05 AM

    It was a bad situation in WAS. 1) Shanahan didn’t want to draft Griffin. 2) West-coast offense does not suit a QB like Griffin. 3) WAS owner gave Griffin preference over coaches and players regardless of his performance. Griffin being injury prone didn’t help either. I’m no fan of Mike Shanahan, but he publicly stated his support for Cousins’ to be his starting QB, and he was right. RGIII, like most spread-option QBs is a long-term project, but the league keeps playing these guys immediately. Cleveland is probably making the same mistake, if they are planning to play Griffin this year. His still has not played a full year in a pro-style offense, and unless CLE is going to incorporate option elements to their offense to accommodate him, Griffin will most likely struggle there too.

  134. edavidberg says: Mar 26, 2016 4:19 PM

    Mike Shannahan isn’t exactly credible about these things. He never took control of RGIII or that team and ran it straight into the ground and now apparently is blaming RGIII. He should take much of the blame himself.

  135. wsdbiker says: Mar 26, 2016 7:28 PM

    QB’s who,don’t make it in the NFL don’t know how to read defenses and go through their progressions. For some the game is just too fast. In my opinion, RGIII can’t read defens s or go through his progressions. Until,he can overcome these deficiencies, he won’t be any good for any team.

  136. avidfanblog says: Mar 26, 2016 8:34 PM

    It’s funny how often people forget that football can often be a game of redemption. If memory serves correct i can think of another young QB who dazzled his rookie season then had some declines and people questioned his character as well they still do does the name Cam Newton ring a bell ? NFL MVP , No ? Now is RG3 Cam Newton not really their games are different but does he have the potential for the same success absolutely but he’s never had a coach Who believed in him. Good ole Mike Shanny is just a bitter overrated coach whos mad because nobody wants to hire him despite reports that he wants to come back to the league. I’m not saying RG will kill it in Cleavland but character concerns in Denver are pretty rich considering they have Talib on their roster and a few others who arent known for strong moral principals to say the least .

  137. nativetexan2012 says: Mar 26, 2016 9:09 PM

    Moral principles weren’t the issue. Relationships with coaches and teammates and ego were the character issues plus a questionable work ethic. If Griffin played QB as well as Talib plays CB he would have had a lot of teams looking to sign him.

  138. mikeinthevine says: Mar 27, 2016 11:36 AM

    He probably wasn’t pious enough for Shanahan.

  139. orivar says: Mar 27, 2016 1:55 PM

    For 2 years, Jay Gruden tried to work w/ Griffin. Griffin’s performance, or lack thereof, kept him from succeeding in a pass heavy offense.

    ———-

    Bull. Jay was leaning on Cousins from the start which was evident with the treatment to Griffin & McCoy. Cousins got more chances than he should and only excelled against the bad teams.

  140. greenmtnboy31 says: Mar 27, 2016 9:49 PM

    Washington Redskins.

  141. bigbamboom1 says: Mar 28, 2016 12:54 AM

    Ask Jake Plummer about Shanahan and his character. Ask Donovan McNabb about Shanahan and his character. For that matter ask Jay Cutler about the same issue. You’ll get the same answer! Shanahan is a backstabbing sneak who can’t be trusted. It’s shanahan’s character that’s at issue here. Not RG3. RG3 has never uttered a negative word about any coach or player of the Redskins. Boy wow are they all knifing him in the back. And trying to smear him out of the NFL. WHy hasn’t Shanahan been able to land a job anywhere since getting canned at Washington? Maybe some character issues about him are playing out in the background. Elway was weak to even use him as an obviously flawed & biased source. Elway knifed Osweiler in the back. So maybe it’s just Karma. I personally wish RG3 the best. And I think Cleveland will have the last laugh on this one.

  142. hrmlss says: Mar 28, 2016 6:51 PM

    And RG3’s irrational fear of horses teeth may have had something to do with it.

  143. nativetexan2012 says: Mar 29, 2016 4:04 PM

    Houston overpaid Osweiler. Denver offered him a good contract. If he was pouting because he was benched for Manning that tells me something about him. He may turn into a good QB, but he will never be Peyton Manning. And as for the “token” championship–it takes more than a strong arm to win championships. Kubiak did the right thing. Osweiler had his opportunity to stay there in Denver and prove he was capable of taking them to another Super Bowl win and chose to take the big bucks instead.

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