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Palmer on Brady: When you get busted, you suffer the consequences

CHARLOTTE, NC - JANUARY 24:  Carson Palmer #3 of the Arizona Cardinals warms up prior to the NFC Championship Game against the Carolina Panthers at Bank of America Stadium on January 24, 2016 in Charlotte, North Carolina.  (Photo by Streeter Lecka/Getty Images) Getty Images

Cardinals quarterback Carson Palmer had a conference call with New England media on Wednesday to discuss Sunday night’s opener against the Patriots and he was asked about a Patriots player who will be missing from the game because of a suspension.

No, it wasn’t defensive end Rob Ninkovich.

The questions were about Tom Brady and Palmer’s feelings about the way things went for Brady after the league’s investigation into ball pressure in the 2015 AFC title game found he was “generally aware” of a scheme to deflate footballs.

“I tried not to follow it just because it was everywhere for so long but I go back and … you follow what the rule book says and go about your business and your work and if they tell you not to do it and you get busted and what happens happens then you suffer the consequences,” Palmer said, via Tom Curran of CSN New England.

Palmer went on to say that he was sure people in New England felt otherwise, but “a lot of players around the league just looking at it, I don’t know if you can feel too strongly about it one way or the other.” Curran followed up to ask if his opinion differed from those in New England who feel that the league didn’t prove anything.

“To be honest … there was … supposedly the balls went somewhere and they weren’t supposed to go there,” Palmer said. “There was humidity and not enough humidity and whatever it was and altitude. I don’t really know. I didn’t follow the story. As soon as it came on I just turned it off because I was so sick of hearing about it. Whatever the league comes down upon and whatever ruling they make is what they make. You don’t have much of a decision after that and you can fight it for a little bit but after a while, you just gotta abide by what they say.”

There’s some rambling there, but the takeaway isn’t an overly sympathetic view of Brady’s lot over the last couple of years. That’s unlikely to make Palmer too popular in New England, but there probably weren’t too many warm feelings about the opposing quarterback this week anyway.

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  1. randomguy9999 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:22 PM

    Brady was cheating, period

  2. mvp43 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:23 PM

    For someone who supposedly didn’t follow the story, he knew quite a bit.

  3. patriotslove12 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:23 PM

    Dumb as a rock, speaking on what he clearly stated he has no idea about…the problem with America these days…

  4. hawksfanallday says: Sep 7, 2016 5:23 PM

    Just like you got busted for being a super bowl capable quarterback in the Nfc championship

  5. iamapatsfan says: Sep 7, 2016 5:24 PM

    Just a perfect example of how the NFL lied and distorted the truth in order to get what they wanted.

    Worked for the general populace. Worked for the NFL player.

  6. envybreedsidiocy says: Sep 7, 2016 5:24 PM

    So Palmer’s ignorance basically mimics that of many others.

    A lack of willingness to look at the actual evidence leads to ignorance.

    Also: Envy Breeds Idiocy

  7. n2cubed says: Sep 7, 2016 5:25 PM

    Congrats, you guys found the volcanic island in the sea of somewhat ignorant indifference. It’s a good tagline, but a broad statement coming from someone who admittedly didn’t follow the story very closely doesn’t mean anything.

  8. seabreezes51 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:26 PM

    Oboy…..the Patriosi are gonna go off the edge over this.

  9. Phoenix11 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:26 PM

    For someone who didn’t follow it, he sure has a big opinion being so uninformed.

  10. MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoSeattle says: Sep 7, 2016 5:26 PM

    Carson is correct however if i was him i would be very nice to Shady and ask for any tips i could get on how to win more than one postseason game in 12 seasons.

  11. afourthlombardiforthehaters says: Sep 7, 2016 5:27 PM

    Said the qb that had one good season his whole career lmfao

  12. chewy724 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:27 PM

    Oh nice… a little extra juice for the Pats. Time to step up Jimmy!

  13. 3menandablog says: Sep 7, 2016 5:28 PM

    Not to mention being caught in lies. Not cooperating with the investigation. Destroying a cell phone. And a guy named “the deflator” who basically spells it all out in a text exchange.

    Good for Palmer to not be blinded by the comical excuses out of New England.

  14. rundmc3 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:28 PM

    Well its not the most shocking thing to believe that he(they) may have cheated. Unless you’re from new england in which case you believe that everyone is out to get “terrific tom” and everyone hates the pats because they win, not cheat…(im from new england btw)

  15. skunkb3ar says: Sep 7, 2016 5:30 PM

    mvp43 says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:23 PM
    For someone who supposedly didn’t follow the story, he knew quite a bit.
    ——————————————————————-

    Not really. That’s kind of the problem. He sounds like your typical casual fan who read some headlines but not the Wells Report, not the court transcripts, etc.

    The things that actually matter, ya know?

    He comes off as both pompous and ignorant here. Not a good combination.

  16. 34bo34 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:30 PM

    I’ll never forget Shady’s face at the press conference during the pre superbowl week. Looked like a little kid who got caught in the cookie jar…..

  17. mellard1121 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:30 PM

    He really didn’t say nothing bad… Even if as a player he feels bad Brady got the death penalty for something dumb he probably wouldn’t say that and bash the nfl and bring down heat on himself

  18. gloryfromheaven46 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:30 PM

    Patriot fans act like the Patriots have never cheated before xD

  19. streetyson says: Sep 7, 2016 5:30 PM

    For any other ignorant hater, this is the first trial’s key admission:-

    Judge Berman: “What evidence…on January 18?”
    NFL lawyer Nash: “No, not for that specific game.”
    Judge Berman: “The Wells report relates to only one game. There is no finding in this case that there was anything done by Mr. Brady.”

    There were, however, many proven lies told by Park Ave – the 11 of 12, the k-ball switching (to cover theft by the NFL), the suspension of the ball guys, the doctoring of the photo of the gauges (to falsely suggest they looked similar), the suggestion that the Pats refused to let Wells talk to the ball guys, the suggestion that Brady destroyed his phone rather than surrender it to Wells (even though Wells didn’t demand it and had no right to it), etc, etc, etc. Oh, and Park Ave leaked the e-mails Brady generously handed over.

  20. tylawspick6 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:30 PM

    confirmed: usc is a wasteland for college students

    and palmer’s jealousy of brady absolutely reeks

  21. plum54 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:31 PM

    “When you get busted”??? Busted because the NFL and apparently Palmer didn’t know about the Ideal Gas Law?
    The only one that got busted was Mother Nature!

  22. mvp43 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:32 PM

    Why did those balls disappear again? I forgot.

  23. pittsburghdamned says: Sep 7, 2016 5:32 PM

    For a flash of a second, I became a Palmer fan.

    It’s gone again, and he’s just back to being a journeyman QB with a pick-six noodle arm and zero field vision.

    Brady stays as always an Ugg-Wearing princess with hair plugs and a butt chin.

    Great laugh though!

  24. scrp2 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:33 PM

    How about the fact that the NFL paid millions for an investigation to discover that Brady maybe had knowledge of something that may or may not have happened.

  25. rodgerstonelson says: Sep 7, 2016 5:35 PM

    If he was to retire at the same time as Tom Brady, the Hall of Fame committee would say …………………………………

    Carson who?

  26. greenlargo says: Sep 7, 2016 5:35 PM

    MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoSeattle says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:26 PM
    Carson is correct however if i was him i would be very nice to Shady and ask for any tips i could get on how to win more than one postseason game in 12 seasons.

    ————————–
    Actually, McCoy plays for Buffalo. I don’t think the face AZ this year do they?

  27. whatjusthapped says: Sep 7, 2016 5:36 PM

    I am still waiting on that best selling book that will be soon be written, “How to lose 15 lbs without even trying” by the Deflator, otherwise known as the Patriot’s ball boy.

    Anybody who tries to sell you that the Pat’s are completely innocent, just ask them how that guy got his nickname?

  28. tedmurph says: Sep 7, 2016 5:36 PM

    This coming from a guy that’s won ONE playoff game his whole 12 yr career, that was followed by an epic choke. He should study film on Brady, just to see what it’s like to be on the big stage, winning the big game. See what the GOAT is all about. Not even worthy of sniffing Brady’s jock, this guy.

  29. voiceofthebostonfans says: Sep 7, 2016 5:36 PM

    “I didn’t read any of it, don’t understand anything it says, but I still think he “got busted” anyway. Got it.

  30. marima07 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:37 PM

    34bo34 says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:30 PM

    I’ll never forget Shady’s face at the press conference during the pre superbowl week.
    —————————————
    Brady’s face on the podium accepting the Super Bowl MVP trophy that year was so much better.

  31. patswinagain says: Sep 7, 2016 5:37 PM

    Unfortunately this is the opinion, as well as the knowledge of the subject, of most outside of NE. I don’t blame you for not being informed and for not caring about the real facts of a case you have no interest in. It makes perfect sense that you’re only interested in the death of your enemy not the process of his death.

    I would however reevaluate my opinion if more than 21 nationally decorated, extremely reputable scientists, physicists, chemists and nobel laureates documented their opinions and then submitted those opinions to a federal court, as to whether a crime even took place.

    That might make me rethink my hate or at least my faith in the league.

  32. lgw91s says: Sep 7, 2016 5:37 PM

    Watch out Carson. The football gods are going to take exception! The 2 teams that concocted the farce? Ravens and Colts. The 2 owners that sided with Goodell? JJ and Mara. None of the teams had their best years.

  33. greenlargo says: Sep 7, 2016 5:38 PM

    34bo34 says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:30 PM
    I’ll never forget Shady’s face at the press conference during the pre superbowl week. Looked like a little kid who got caught in the cookie jar…..

    ——————————

    McCoy plays for Buffalo and never attended the Super Bowl.

  34. jmdanieli says: Sep 7, 2016 5:38 PM

    I’ll never forget Shady’s face at the press conference during the pre superbowl week. Looked like a little kid who got caught in the cookie jar…..
    ===============================
    You mean the look of what’s going on because because the NFL LIED about the PSI levels? Repeat: The NFL LIED!!!
    The only one busted was the NFL!!

  35. icanthink4myself says: Sep 7, 2016 5:39 PM

    gloryfromheaven46 says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:30 PM
    Patriot fans act like the Patriots have never cheated before
    ————————————-
    Every team has “cheated” or broken a rule. Even your team. Don’t pretend they don’t

  36. schmitty2 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:39 PM

    2 things are guaranteed here: 1.Patriots fans will spew venom at Palmer for “disrespecting” their golden boy and 2. Palmer couldn’t care less what they think.

  37. davew128 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:39 PM

    randomguy9999 says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:22 PM
    Brady was cheating, period
    ======================
    And you’ve got the NFL’s trial attorney’s statement in court to back that up. Oh wait…

  38. thegreatgabbert says: Sep 7, 2016 5:40 PM

    “Son, sometimes you have to cheat in life, but always remember this. ‘When you get busted, you suffer the consequences.’…. “.

  39. greenlargo says: Sep 7, 2016 5:40 PM

    chewy724 says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:27 PM
    Oh nice… a little extra juice for the Pats. Time to step up Jimmy!

    ————————————

    I’m pretty sure it’s Jamie Collins that will deliver the retort, not JG.

  40. steelcurtainn says: Sep 7, 2016 5:41 PM

    The league knows it, the fans know its, everybody knows it unless you live in N.E . Shady Brady is a cheating champion. It’s as simple as that.

  41. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Sep 7, 2016 5:43 PM

    34bo34 says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:30 PM
    I’ll never forget Shady’s face at the press conference during the pre superbowl week. Looked like a little kid who got caught in the cookie jar…..
    ————————————

    I’ll never forget the look on his face after he took the knee that ended that Super Bowl…or the look on Sherman’s face shortly before that for that matter.

  42. professorpigskin46 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:43 PM

    And as someone who coughed up six turnovers in the NFC championship game, Palmer knows a lot about getting busted.

  43. patsbrat says: Sep 7, 2016 5:44 PM

    My opinion of Carson Palmer just tanked.

  44. Judge Smails says: Sep 7, 2016 5:44 PM

    Palmer states clearly and equivocally

    The balls went somewhere they’re not supposed to be and covertly

    What more do you need than that face value fact ??

    The Cheating Franchise who can’t stop cheating

    Take the punishment NE and your insufferable fans

  45. JackDelRiosHair says: Sep 7, 2016 5:45 PM

    I think Carson would fit in well on this forum. “I am not saying anything…just saying something”

  46. tedmurph says: Sep 7, 2016 5:45 PM

    This coming from a guy that’s won ONE playoff game his whole 12 yr career, that was followed by an epic choke. He should study film on Brady, just to see what it’s like to be on the big stage, winning the big game. See what the GOAT is all about. Not even worthy of carrying Brady’s jock, this guy.

  47. edelmanfanclub says: Sep 7, 2016 5:45 PM

    Well the here come the trolls. Ill troll back. Palmer is 1-3 in the postseason

  48. 6ball says: Sep 7, 2016 5:45 PM

    .
    A couple of years ago Carson Palmer was on the street. Now, I’m told to throw all of Joe Montana ‘s and Dan Marino’ s gear out of the Hall of Fame to make way for Palmers.

    When has he ever played well in a big game?
    .

  49. spotsdad says: Sep 7, 2016 5:46 PM

    Another ignorant minion.

  50. Judge Smails says: Sep 7, 2016 5:48 PM

    icanthink4myself says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:39 PM
    gloryfromheaven46 says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:30 PM
    Patriot fans act like the Patriots have never cheated before
    ————————————-
    Every team has “cheated” or broken a rule. Even your team. Don’t pretend they don’t

    ———
    Yes and they were remorseful and took the punishment not enact a large scale institutional rebuttal about everything other than Deflator stealing the balls

    Let’s talk about soygate then

    When is Flutie gonna come clean on the helmet nonsense?

    Hopefully soon

  51. michael228 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:49 PM

    Bummer he’s not playing Sunday. But not to worry, he’ll destroy you with perfectly inflated balls come February.

  52. fanfrommontreal says: Sep 7, 2016 5:49 PM

    Bulletin board material for the Patriots four days before the game?
    Such a smart move! And it’s hard not to notice that his words are about as coherent as his play was in the last NFC Championship.
    Thanks Carson.

  53. jagsfanugh says: Sep 7, 2016 5:50 PM

    I like this guy. Speak it brother!

  54. Bubbalicious says: Sep 7, 2016 5:51 PM

    Carson you should try some cheating – with your impressive 1 win in the playoffs you really need some help!

  55. trevor190 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:52 PM

    “There was humidity and not enough humidity and whatever it was and altitude. I don’t really know. I didn’t follow the story”

    REALLY, CARSON?

  56. MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoSeattle says: Sep 7, 2016 5:52 PM

    patsbrat says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:44 PM
    My opinion of Carson Palmer just tanked.

    I’m sure Carson will have trouble sleeping just knowing this..ROFL

  57. havok82 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:53 PM

    Bulletin board material. He absolutely is entitled to his opinion but there is a saying about being a fool and opening your mouth to confirm it. He has just done so here. The report never “busted” Brady. He clearly did not read the report or watch any TV that ripped it to pieces. This is coming from a guy who “retired” rather than play football in Cincy (who really hasn’t missed him).

    When Palmer wins something and doesn’t have a career’s worth of turnovers in a single playoff game, maybe he will be relevant. The best way to shut him up is to win and I think the Pats can certainly do that.

  58. theandy59 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:54 PM

    Palmer reveals himself to be just like so many people who comment on here – he’s intellectually lazy and chooses to believe things that support what he has chosen to believe, and he ignores anything that challenges that belief. There is simply no way any reasonably intelligent person can read the Wells Report, the court filings, briefs, testimony transcripts, etc. and come out with any conclusion other than the NFL railroaded Brady and the Patriots. Numbnuts who just continue to spout the tired “Brady cheated” narrative reveal themselves as dullards who are incapable of independent or original thought.

  59. footballgodtb12 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:54 PM

    Injury line: Palmer Questionable – Concussion Protocol

  60. tylawspick6 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:56 PM

    carson palmer iq = 80

    forrest gump’s =75

    yikes!

  61. nhpats says: Sep 7, 2016 5:56 PM

    Did Carson weigh in on why the Colts’ footballs were also under-inflated?

  62. rwhite151 says: Sep 7, 2016 5:57 PM

    For all of those that say Brady was cheating please answer the following questions:

    1. The same security cameras were in Gillette stadium for years but the investigation did not find another game where the guy went into the bathroom. Did they deflate balls at other games then the Colts? If so, how?

    2. How did they deflate balls at road games? They don’t touch the balls after handing to the officials.

    If you think about it there was no opportunity to cheat. This whole thing is idiotic. If you want to tell me that I am wrong please answer the questions.

  63. dispozblcopy says: Sep 7, 2016 5:59 PM

    Thanks for the bulletin board material, Carson.

  64. smokehouse56 says: Sep 7, 2016 6:02 PM

    Lets just face one fact. Brady cheated and got busted. Now he is serving his time. He’s not special. He cheated and got busted. End of story.

  65. greenlargo says: Sep 7, 2016 6:03 PM

    chesswhileyouplaycheckers says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:43 PM
    34bo34 says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:30 PM
    I’ll never forget Shady’s face at the press conference during the pre superbowl week. Looked like a little kid who got caught in the cookie jar…..
    ————————————

    I’ll never forget the look on his face after he took the knee that ended that Super Bowl…or the look on Sherman’s face shortly before that for that matter.

    ——————————-

    Sherman’s actions at the end of the game were totally classy and dignified. The fact that he could be so gracious and respectful as he absorbed what must have been a crushing moment to him justified all the smack talk he had ever done before and since. Being a good winner lots can do. Being a good loser is much harder. Props to him.

  66. blackstrat says: Sep 7, 2016 6:09 PM

    So lets analyze Patriot fans and Brady acolytes;
    The same player, upon being injured in the pocket, caused The NFL Rules Committee to change a long standing rule for the “unprotected” QB lest the star players have significant time off the field, now reverses itself and arbitrarily and capriciously decides it is best for the league to fabricate evidence that removes arguably (not by me btw) the best quarterback in the game for the good of the game.
    Doesn’t add up to me.
    Shouldn’t add up to you either.
    There exists the facts and we all know about the facts, that his coach cheats.
    It is no stretch to believe that the coach tacitly approves of any edge(haha) that will get another win.
    No stretch whatever

  67. FoozieGrooler says: Sep 7, 2016 6:10 PM

    ..a lesson Tom Brady will never learn or understand.
    No honor, no class, no integrity, no remorse.
    That’s the Patriot’s Way

  68. limakey says: Sep 7, 2016 6:11 PM

    He told it like it was. Brady broke the rules and is suspended for it. The Wells Report was clear and logically put together. The NFL connected the all the dots. The Pats defense, the Wells Report In Context is scattered and is down right funny. The best part of it, is their science is the recollection of Walt Anderson. They based their total science on a human being’s recollection. Tell me Pat fans, where is the science that proves Walt Anderson could not be mistaken? Where is the law in physics that states human recollection trumps all science and experiments.

  69. mrloser444 says: Sep 7, 2016 6:13 PM

    Judge Smails says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:44 PM
    Palmer states clearly and equivocally

    The balls went somewhere they’re not supposed to be and covertly

    What more do you need than that face value fact ??

    The Cheating Franchise who can’t stop cheating

    Take the punishment NE and your insufferable fans
    ———————————————————————
    They had to go to the BATHROOM! And can any one of these Pats fans tell me what stall they used? Sit-down? Stand up? Just curious…….

  70. illegalact says: Sep 7, 2016 6:14 PM

    You people who keep talking about the cell phone don’t get it man! Did you see what the NFL did with the texts that were provided? We spent a week talking about Brady’s pool and whether his wife undermined him! Then they said he was divorcing. Oh and it gets better! They couldn’t wait to expose a conversation Brady had with his own father about wanting to be the better QB between him and Manning! Don’t you get it? Brady’s a huge star! He has many important friends and has many conversations with those friends. People YOU DON’T HAVE BRADY’S ROLODEX! You have NO IDEA what your talking about!

  71. briguy5 says: Sep 7, 2016 6:17 PM

    Yeah, Carson, it was the altitude. You know, in the high Rocky Mountains of Foxboro Massachusetts.

  72. TheDPR says: Sep 7, 2016 6:18 PM

    I don’t know how any current NFL player can take this view. He doesn’t know what happened but since the league is punishing Brady, then he must be guilty of something. No wonder the union can’t make any inroads toward helping players; the players like Palmer don’t know and don’t care what’s even wrong with the league.

  73. weepingjebus says: Sep 7, 2016 6:19 PM

    The only people who think cheating occurred are those that still don’t understand 9th grade chemistry, and refuse to educate themselves about the facts. This includes Goodell. By contrast dozens of PhDs and a Nobel Laureate supported Brady. Indeed, Goodell’s own investigation established that the refs forced Brady to play with 16 psi game balls against Goodell’s beloved Jets. This was of course ignored.

  74. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Sep 7, 2016 6:20 PM

    blackstrat says:
    Sep 7, 2016 6:09 PM
    So lets analyze Patriot fans and Brady acolytes;
    The same player, upon being injured in the pocket, caused The NFL Rules Committee to change a long standing rule for the “unprotected” QB lest the star players have significant time off the field…
    ———————-

    That is hysterical.
    I doubt you can appreciate the irony but it’s actually the Carson Palmer Rule. It was implemented in the ’06 off season. Brady’s knee injury happened in ’08
    smh

  75. megnailsit says: Sep 7, 2016 6:23 PM

    Eureka! So it was altitude that proves they cheated! Oh and some “whatever”…
    Thumbs down if you agree with Carson’s brilliant analysis.

  76. truthprofessor says: Sep 7, 2016 6:24 PM

    He’s just another one of the fact-deprived masses, blissfully unaware that science actually proves that nobody took any air out of any football on that day, after they were inspected.

    Like many others, he heard the false data (that all footballs were 2 psi or more under, which they WERE NOT), and he no longer cared once the lies were exposed, thus he still thinks the lies are true.

    Sad, but ignorance is hard to overcome.

  77. dwoofer says: Sep 7, 2016 6:30 PM

    For some reason, everybody in America except Patriots fans know that the Patriots cheat. Must be the weather up there.

  78. davedsone says: Sep 7, 2016 6:31 PM

    “Nah, I can’t be bothered to look into it, get any facts, I just wanna have an OPINION, see?”

  79. hugeheavywoman says: Sep 7, 2016 6:36 PM

    Wow, even Shady’s respected peers shun him. What does Cheat Boy Nation say about that??

  80. Ugadogs21 says: Sep 7, 2016 6:38 PM

    Right or wrong, does he think the Patriots are not happy to be playing against a guy who had 6 turnovers in his last meaningful game? And his offensive line is not the best.

    The guy with a fragile blindside should not be providing bulletin board material.

  81. uglydingo says: Sep 7, 2016 6:40 PM

    Carson Palmer isn’t in Tom Brady’s league as a QB. He is unworthy of scrubbing Brady’s toilet and yet he has the audacity to get on his high horse and lecture the greatest NFL player of all time.

  82. hugeheavywoman says: Sep 7, 2016 6:41 PM

    98% of America hates him, his peers despise him, the courts have convicted him, his own players dislike him, his employer has suspended him……………………WAKE UP CHEAT BOY NATUION!! It’s all over man!!!

  83. spreth1 says: Sep 7, 2016 6:44 PM

    Glad to see Carson’s putting his free education to good use. Trojan Pride!

  84. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 7, 2016 6:46 PM

    Playoff wins:

    Tom Brady: 22
    Carson Palmer: 1

    The end.🙂

  85. kissbillsrings says: Sep 7, 2016 6:48 PM

    Thank you Carson…. You just gave the Pats D a little more incentive to
    Pummel you….

  86. Della Street says: Sep 7, 2016 6:50 PM

    smokehouse56 says:
    Sep 7, 2016 6:02 PM
    Lets just face one fact. Brady cheated and got busted. Now he is serving his time. He’s not special. He cheated and got busted. End of story.

    ___________

    Please tell me why the colts’ balls were also underinflated. I’m dying to hear it.

  87. factpurveyor says: Sep 7, 2016 6:52 PM

    hugeheavywoman says:
    Sep 7, 2016 6:41 PM

    98% of America hates him, his peers despise him, the courts have convicted him, his own players dislike him, his employer has suspended him……………………WAKE UP CHEAT BOY NATUION!! It’s all over man!!!

    —————————————————————
    Actually, statistics show that about 50% of all people that are football fans believe that he cheated. It’s called the Bell Curve and those on the left side of the curve lack the intelligence to understand the science which indicates that the footballs were not tampered with. This lack of intelligence left those individuals to believe the cheating nonsense.

  88. sportnik2 says: Sep 7, 2016 6:52 PM

    fu Palmer. Brady wasn’t busted, he was framed. It’s painfully clear that Palmer lacks the intelligence and courage required to be a true champion, like #12.

  89. mattwalshvideo says: Sep 7, 2016 6:54 PM

    Tom Shady = Hillary Clinton

    Smashed cell phones, serial liar.

    #GCOAT

  90. factpurveyor says: Sep 7, 2016 6:55 PM

    hugeheavywoman says:
    Sep 7, 2016 6:36 PM

    Wow, even Shady’s respected peers shun him. What does Cheat Boy Nation say about that??

    —————————————————————-

    There is no shortage of dimwits that can’t understand basic science. We all understand that and we didn’t need your posting to remind us.

  91. Nofoolnodrool says: Sep 7, 2016 6:58 PM

    Oh the horror. Oh the inhumanity. Nah, just somebody saying they are tired of the whole deal and want,the whiners to stop and Brady to pay the price for cheating. Pretty simple except for the tin foil lemmings of NE.

  92. brewster1 says: Sep 7, 2016 6:58 PM

    “That’s unlikely to make Palmer too popular in New England, but there probably weren’t too many warm feelings about the opposing quarterback this week anyway.”

    Except that Brady is not the opposing quarterback this week. Or next week. Or the next. Or the next.

  93. factpurveyor says: Sep 7, 2016 7:00 PM

    mattwalshvideo says:
    Sep 7, 2016 6:54 PM

    Tom Shady = Hillary Clinton

    Smashed cell phones, serial liar.
    ————————————————————

    So an extremely wealthy person wants the latest smart phone and can afford one. He wipes the data off the old phone, which is what intelligent people do. The NFL was never going to receive his personal telephone. The NFL had no right to examine a personal telephone.

    That’s a long way from a government official systematically deleting specific emails, which are subject to the Freedom of Information Act, from an email server and destroying several telephones.

    But nice try!

  94. qbarrel says: Sep 7, 2016 7:00 PM

    Stay in your lane and only speak on things you understand Carson – like crotch chops, knee reconstructions and losing in the playoffs.

  95. stevegrogannakedbootleg says: Sep 7, 2016 7:04 PM

    Oh the Ginger Hammer spares no one thanks for playing but you are next.

  96. diehardfootballfan says: Sep 7, 2016 7:07 PM

    Ben says Brady is the greatest ever. I concur.
    Palmer=Choker
    Brady=Brilliant

  97. stoneydog1000 says: Sep 7, 2016 7:08 PM

    Carson, the Quitter, isn’t too popular in Cincinnati, either.

  98. sgrvn329 says: Sep 7, 2016 7:08 PM

    Losers hate and winners win! Carson Palmer is just a stat QB who plays well in the regular season and in the big game you can’t find him.

  99. bostonsteve12 says: Sep 7, 2016 7:08 PM

    “supposedly the balls went somewhere where they weren’t supposed to go there. There was humidity, not enough humidity or altitude, whatever it was”.
    He sounds like he played too much without a helmet.

  100. r502 says: Sep 7, 2016 7:09 PM

    I’m sure Tom thinks he’s very clever when his cheating pays off. If your not cheating you’re not trying, right Tom?
    Be a man and take your medicine when you get caught and quit crying about it. Don’t blame the man for busting you down.

  101. mmack66 says: Sep 7, 2016 7:13 PM

    voiceofthebostonfans says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:36 PM

    “I didn’t read any of it, don’t understand anything it says, but I still think he “got busted” anyway.
    —————————-

    That pretty much sums up the Patriot Haters.

  102. bert1913 says: Sep 7, 2016 7:14 PM

    do the crime, do the time

  103. tbw880 says: Sep 7, 2016 7:15 PM

    Doofus!

  104. Judge Smails says: Sep 7, 2016 7:17 PM

    “It’s easy when you have the answers to the test” Tom Brady , January 2005

  105. factpurveyor says: Sep 7, 2016 7:18 PM

    The drooling masses that still believe the cheat nonsense about deflated footballs still haven’t noticed that the NFL hasn’t released the PSI information that was collected during the 2015 season.

  106. Patskrieg says: Sep 7, 2016 7:20 PM

    There are 3 types of players when it comes to Deflategate:

    1. Guys who are too dumb to know what’s going on.
    2. Guys who recognized that Roger Goodell was working his way through the cracks in the CBA to abuse his power.
    3. Guys who knew perfectly well what was going on, but are pretending after the fact that they didn’t, taking a few company friendly talking points for a walk “Well I dunno about science, but I know rules are rules…” and hoping to score a broadcasting paycheck when their playing career is over.

    I guess that puts Palmer in #3 (“the altitude?” seriously?).

  107. Judge Smails says: Sep 7, 2016 7:23 PM

    …..and Jim McNally smiles and turns away

  108. bullcharger says: Sep 7, 2016 7:26 PM

    Perfect commentary for a complete pummeling by the defense. The sacks will be coming from all angles.

  109. aj66shanghai says: Sep 7, 2016 7:30 PM

    The only way this will matter is if the Cardinals meet the Patriots again in the super bowl, when Tom Brady is not suspended.

    Which would assume Carson Palmer a) is not injured, and b) managed to not massively choke in 2 or 3 straight playoff games, for the first time ever.

    So, very unlikely his inadvisable ramblings will come back to haunt him.

  110. u4iadman says: Sep 7, 2016 7:33 PM

    Guilty. Pats homers wake up.

    ***

  111. bullcharger says: Sep 7, 2016 7:34 PM

    Judge Smails says:
    Sep 7, 2016 7:17 PM

    “It’s easy when you have the answers to the test” Tom Brady , January 2005

    ————-

    Let’s take the worst quote from every NFL player ever and compare them and see where this one falls.

  112. factpurveyor says: Sep 7, 2016 7:36 PM

    Judge Smails says:
    Sep 7, 2016 7:17 PM

    “It’s easy when you have the answers to the test” Tom Brady , January 2005

    ————————————————————–
    Intelligent people – read that quote and conclude that someone prepared for the test by studying the material.

    Dumb people – read that quote and conclude that nobody could know answers for a test without cheating.

  113. j0esixpack says: Sep 7, 2016 7:39 PM

    REALLY tough not to feel intellectually superior as a Patriots fan reading this thread

    From Palmer’s “something about the humidity” showing his inability to comprehend that air pressure drops in the cold, to the conspiracy theorists of “where did the balls go?” for 80 seconds ideas

    They’re all hilarious

    One problem

    The footballs weren’t deflated

    The NFL’s own PSI numbers confirmed there was no deflation.

    None of you noticed that Goodell’s promise to release similar PSI data to the public the following year went out the window when they knew they’d be “outed” as corrupt?

    That’s all this is folks – Goodell is corrupt and you’re all just gullible enough to believe him. Nothing more.

  114. hugeheavywoman says: Sep 7, 2016 7:42 PM

    Which is worse:
    a) Not respecting the national anthem; or
    b) Cheating the rules of your professional career which pay you millions of dollars a year?

  115. kevpft says: Sep 7, 2016 7:43 PM

    There’s the Carson Palmer who seems really cool and smart judging from those behind-the-scenes articles Peter King has done on him.

    Then there’s this Carson Palmer. This is the one we saw at the end of last season.

  116. Judge Smails says: Sep 7, 2016 7:44 PM

    Yea that’s why the press transcript aNd video of it were deleted

  117. factpurveyor says: Sep 7, 2016 7:49 PM

    Della Street says:
    Sep 7, 2016 6:50 PM

    Please tell me why the colts’ balls were also underinflated. I’m dying to hear it.

    —————————————————————
    It must have been “deflator” since 6 months previously he once texted that word to his buddy.
    He had 90 seconds and that’s plenty of time to deflate all 11 Patriots footballs and then run across the field unseen by the camera to find find the Colts bag of footballs left unattended outside a bathroom while the Colts ball boy was taking a leak. He runs fast, that why he was able to get back to the other side of the field in time to exit the bathroom in time to be seen by the camera exiting the bathroom at the 90 second mark.

  118. ldag4 says: Sep 7, 2016 7:53 PM

    since its already been established that the Patriots org. cheated to get to every Super Bowl, all their wins are tainted.
    Naturally only the Patriots fans refuse to believe it, and think they actually won the Lombardi. They also believe that Brady was instrumental in these tainted wins, and not the defense or their kicker

  119. rollsieboys says: Sep 7, 2016 7:54 PM

    respect ya carson but when you come for king brady, have at least a ring to show for it, why don’t ya?

  120. m8gaman says: Sep 7, 2016 7:59 PM

    I guess Palmer doesn’t understand 6th grade science, are you smarter than a 6th grader?

  121. shoesfinest says: Sep 7, 2016 8:05 PM

    To be fair Palmer did say….typically I take my ball and go home…you know? Because I am a quitter and all.

  122. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 7, 2016 8:13 PM

    Patriot Hater misunderstands us🙂 We aren’t arrogant at all. We are just honest and tell it like it is.

    We really are better than you at everything. Why deny or sugarcoat it?
    🙂

  123. sportschatterdotco says: Sep 7, 2016 8:14 PM

    Eh I cant bash the guy for not paying more attention to this silliness. I’d be more likely to bash him if he seemed aware of the actual facts and thought Brady was guilty. Only ones that think he’s guilty are the ones that stopped paying attention after the first night of this story. Nobody is going to take the time to read anything that might show they were duped especially when they WANT to believe the worst.

    Just human nature but if you do some googling there are plenty of objective voices that did indeed change their mind or at least arent convinced there was any wrong doing once the actual facts came out.

  124. tylawspick6 says: Sep 7, 2016 8:22 PM

    Anyone else feel uncomfortable when grown adults can’t admit they got duped AGAIN by a lying leader of a multi billion dollar operation?

    I suppose the boogeyman knocked out Ray Rice’s fiancee in that elevator, too?

    LMAO

    Why do people make such fools of themselves and don’t care how it looks?

  125. scottbrowning2 says: Sep 7, 2016 8:28 PM

    Carson is CLEARLY not the “Thinking man’s” quarterback.

  126. cbass59 says: Sep 7, 2016 8:28 PM

    It’s odd that NE fired the ball guys but claimed they did nothing wrong and the deflation was a result of the temperature. If Kraft was correct he’d fight tooth and nail. If the truth was on his side, he had nothing to worry about. But he gave up…

  127. scutz1972 says: Sep 7, 2016 8:33 PM

    hugeheavywoman says:
    Sep 7, 2016 6:36 PM
    Wow, even Shady’s respected peers shun him. What does Cheat Boy Nation say about that??

    1st of all, Palmer is not a respected peer. He is an underachieving failure. 1 playoff win in his whole career! Wow, great work.

    2nd of all, we all think you are a huge toll. It doesn’t seem to bother you.

  128. tonebones says: Sep 7, 2016 8:41 PM

    In other words, Palmer was saying if you cheat and get caught, you suffer the consequences. Gee whiz. Such a radical, controversial thing to say.

  129. factpurveyor says: Sep 7, 2016 8:45 PM

    Della Street says:
    Sep 7, 2016 6:50 PM

    Please tell me why the colts’ balls were also underinflated. I’m dying to hear it.
    ——————————————————————
    When you take footballs from a warm environment to a cold and rainy environment the PSI drops naturally.

    You can watch this happen on videos on the popular online video site. One title to search for is “DEFLATE GATE & WHY SCIENCE SAYS THE PATRIOTS DID NOT TAMPER WITH FOOTBALLS”

    The NFL hasn’t released the PSI information form the 2015 season because it will show the same science because all those games were played in this universe. At this time there is no evidence that the same science would not apply in outside our universe.

  130. acp4 says: Sep 7, 2016 8:46 PM

    Yeah, tonebones that sort of logical thinking escapes many here today.

  131. nyneal says: Sep 7, 2016 8:49 PM

    For a guy who wasn’t listening to it or watching it, Palmer sure has a lot to say about it.

  132. joker65 says: Sep 7, 2016 8:55 PM

    An old guy goes to take a piss before going to stand on the sidelines for 2 plus hours and decides not to leave the balls in the hallway unattended. Just shocking. Shocking.

    And haters call Pats fans delusional.

  133. infectorman says: Sep 7, 2016 8:56 PM

    Du Duh, Humidity…..duh duh weather…duh, duh altitude..

    Well, now that we’ve cleared that up….

  134. ibillwt says: Sep 7, 2016 9:03 PM

    Yea that humidity has a big effect on ball pressure Palmer. Yours must ache whenever you leave Arizona.

    There’s a spot for you as Goebells’ science adviser when you give up on winning a meaningful game.

  135. kevinoc63 says: Sep 7, 2016 9:06 PM

    Speaking of under inflated balls, I can’t think of any other professional quarterback that shrinks so much when the bright lights of the playoffs turn on than Carson Palmer.

  136. flash1287 says: Sep 7, 2016 9:08 PM

    “His peers don’t like him” (another false narrative from the crybabies)

    From today on ESPN….

    Tom’s the greatest in the world, and I mean that,” Roethlisberger told ESPN on Wednesday.

  137. kptb12 says: Sep 7, 2016 9:13 PM

    Says the crying qb sitting out a year because he didn’t get his way. Thanks for the motivation, not that the Patriots needed anymore.

  138. acp4 says: Sep 7, 2016 9:20 PM

    Brady was busy donating blood at his church where he was a choir boy when the balls were removed from the officials quarters and taken back to the Pats locker room so he couldn’t possibly have done it.

  139. winninaintsinnin says: Sep 7, 2016 9:29 PM

    But I thought Pats fans told us all the players around the league were going to walk out in protest….

    LOL

  140. gonzoforbills says: Sep 7, 2016 9:37 PM

    It’s hard to believe Patriot fans can bury their tricornes over a couple of scandals, but can’t pull them out of their butts to see the truth…

    Tommy = Cheater = Liar

  141. joenowlan says: Sep 7, 2016 9:55 PM

    He says, “I tried not to follow it….”

    Well, let me instruct you, Brother Palmer, about the reality here. Brady wasn’t “busted” but rather framed. Innuendoed, if you follow.

    NFL never came close to proving Brady’s involvement. Read the reports. Also, I refer you to the great reporting and commentary of Sally Jenkins, Washington Post, for the definitive info. Kapeesh?

    God, you people sometimes….

  142. vottorific says: Sep 7, 2016 9:58 PM

    So the quitter is calling out the cheater! Lol!

  143. sabatimus says: Sep 7, 2016 10:18 PM

    All I see here is Palmer indicting Goodell.

  144. sportschatterdotco says: Sep 7, 2016 10:21 PM

    This is pretty much what changed my mind but this was actually used against Brady…somehow

    There remain other anomalies in Goodell’s report. For instance, Goodell writes that “there are several points that are not in dispute and important to this decision,” including that Brady “told the equipment staff that he wanted the footballs inflated at the lowest permissible level” and “instructed the equipment staff to present a copy of the rule to the game officials.”

    He makes it pretty clear he wants them at 12.5, that obviously means he wants them lower! huh?

    and then this nuggett, there was no long running scheme

    Goodell also states as an unchallenged fact that the AFC Championship game was the only time when McNally took the footballs on his own to the field, writing: “Other referees … said … he [McNally] had not engaged in similar conduct in the games that they had worked at Gillette Stadium.” So, what kind of a scheme was this to secretly deflate footballs when it allegedly could only have been done once?

    Duped.

    Read some facts, sound smart🙂

  145. jazz11001 says: Sep 7, 2016 10:23 PM

    Ref allowed the balls in play so what’s the problem?

  146. mclennon99 says: Sep 7, 2016 11:33 PM

    I really like and respect Tom Brady….and I’m a Bills fan but I cannot wait til the day he retires and all these Patriots fans start dealing with mediocrity again!

  147. kenmasters34 says: Sep 8, 2016 12:09 AM

    I am a Bears fan. Its been a pretty boring couple of years. Let me tell you why I believe Brady is innocent.

    SCIENCE.

  148. footballzblog says: Sep 8, 2016 12:34 AM

    Outside of Brady fanboys – it’s obvious to everyone Tommy cheated. Yes, I understand the Ideal Gas Law, but that doesn’t make up for the trove of other damning evidence (the video and texts). Sucks for Tommy because he’s probably good enough to win w/o cheating, but it’s hard to feel bad for him,. He did it to himself. And Bellichick created a culture of bending/breaking the rules. Shameful and unnecessary.

  149. jmd0722 says: Sep 8, 2016 1:25 AM

    Since when does a loser like Palmer be qualified to make comments about Brady? Lets see, oh, Palmer has never been to the super bowl, yet alone win one. He is not even a top tiered QB. Hope Pats. put some hard hits on him when they play.

  150. briang123 says: Sep 8, 2016 1:31 AM

    Brady on Palmer: “If he starts the Super Bowl for the next 5 years, eh still will be behind me.”

  151. broncosgreatestfan says: Sep 8, 2016 1:40 AM

    Gotta put on my tinfoil hat before reading anymore Patriot fan conspiracy theories. Worst fanbase ever. What is wrong with you guys, like seriously?

  152. TRsome says: Sep 8, 2016 3:33 AM

    Lol. I enjoy how everybody in New England now knows the Ideal Gas Law. Don’t know anything else about science, but know that one.

    This reads like he wasn’t allowed to say “I don’t really care..” so he just rambled through and said whatever. Then you all get up in arms and crazy about it.

    As somebody that is completely indifferent to the Patriots and their fans, it’s fun to read all these comments.

  153. bucslim says: Sep 8, 2016 8:35 AM

    What exactly did Brady get ‘busted’ for Carson? This is the stupidest, most over-the-top punishment for the most inconsequential rules infraction in the history of rules and infractions. It’s right in the rulebook, a small fine for equipment manipulation and that’s it. It’s Roger Goodell’s ego that made this non-story headlines for over 2 years. Goodell is a gigantic baby that refuses to stop crying until his needs are met.

    A deflated football has nothing to do with blocking, tackling, running, picking up the blitz, game management, 3rd down conversion, defense, coaching or 100 other things that the Patriots did to win against the Colts that day. The Colts could have played with a Nerf football and still lost that day.

  154. fireroger says: Sep 8, 2016 9:13 AM

    Neither Exponent nor Paul, Weiss was able to procure exemplar gauges identical to the Logo Gauge. (Appendix I, page 14)

  155. superpatriotsfan says: Sep 8, 2016 9:35 AM

    Funny how Pats homers act like they won the super bowl. Bunch of wannabe Good Will Huntings.

  156. mmack66 says: Sep 8, 2016 10:04 AM

    tonebones says:
    Sep 7, 2016 8:41 PM

    In other words, Palmer was saying if you cheat and get caught, you suffer the consequences.
    ————————

    Unless you happen to be so fortunate as to play for the Jets, Colts, Vikings, or Panthers.

  157. ozone1030 says: Sep 8, 2016 10:06 AM

    “There was humidity and not enough humidity and whatever it was and altitude”. Ha Ha! What an idiot.

  158. dandeman19 says: Sep 8, 2016 10:19 AM

    OK Carson are you ok with the NFL and the Colts and what they did? The Colts checked the Pats game ball during the game. That is a no no. The league then uses the Colts rule breaking to convict the Pats. You are ok with that? OK then I am going to find a cop who is dirty say selling drugs and I will have that Cop get you convicted for using drugs whether you use or not is not relevant. That is what the league in essence did.

  159. indywilson40 says: Sep 8, 2016 10:31 AM

    Oh no! Carson Palmer won’t be popular in New England. How will he go on living:(

  160. imodan says: Sep 8, 2016 10:43 AM

    gloryfromheaven46 says:
    Sep 7, 2016 5:30 PM
    Patriot fans act like the Patriots have never cheated before xD
    ——————————————————————
    No, not true. We accept spygate was stupid, arrogant and illegal. We accept the snowplow incident was bush league. We accept the Tuck Rule was, well, a rule, and called correctly. What we don’t accept is a league saying in court they have no evidence against Brady, numerous scientists proving no intentional deflating occurred. We don’t accept Goodell making a huge deal out of Brady not giving his phone over after being told by investigators they didn’t want it. Throw in the fact Goodell refused to turn his over during an investigation and the hypocrisy drips like melted butter. But most of all we don’t accept that NE is the only team that has broken rules. They all have. Every last one. Get over it people. Simply put NE is a superior organization with superior coaching, players and fans. That Palmer admits that he would get into the fetal position and accept anything the NFL throws his way says a lot about his atrocious playoff record when only the tough of heart and mind succeed.

  161. irishmanknowsall says: Sep 8, 2016 11:05 AM

    What was Mr. Brady proved to have done?

  162. letmefeelyourlove says: Sep 8, 2016 11:21 AM

    footballzblog says:
    Sep 8, 2016 12:34 AM

    Outside of Brady fanboys – it’s obvious to everyone Tommy cheated. Yes, I understand the Ideal Gas Law, but that doesn’t make up for the trove of other damning evidence (the video and texts).
    __________________________________

    This one gets me every time.

    If person understands the IGL and a person understands what 21 university professors with doctorates in science and engineering wrote in their amicus brief, then he/she also understands (or should understand) that the psi of the footballs dropped due to atmospheric conditions alone.

    That being the case, the trove of damning evidence only proves something to those who are part of the “no one tampered with the footballs … and I can prove who did it!” crowd.

  163. fireroger says: Sep 8, 2016 11:21 AM

    blackstrat says:
    Sep 7, 2016 6:09 PM
    =======================
    Maybe it doesn’t add up because Brady was the second franchise QB to get hurt. Palmer was the first in the post-season the year before. The rule change came from owners whining about losing their franchise QBs not by anything Brady did or did not do.

    It’s no mystery the team that started the deflategate frame job was the same team that got butt hurt in the playoffs the game before the AFCCG. The same team Brady called out for not knowing the rules. The same team responsible for somehow convincing the NFL commissioner what Ray Rice did was no big deal.

  164. fireroger says: Sep 8, 2016 11:22 AM

    limakey says:
    Sep 7, 2016 6:11 PM
    ==================
    Connected all the dots. LMAO

    The NFL based their entire science on the opposite of what Anderson recollected. How does Exponent prove Anderson was wrong? By going out and buying gauges similar to the non-logo gauge he never claimed to use. The same gauge with a larger needle and you know … a logo on it.

    You can certainly point out the lack of science to prove Anderson was mistaken. So long as you understand the lack of science he wasn’t. In the end it’s Wells telling Anderson what gauge he used (among many other issues with their “science”) and the complete and utter failure to “connect all the dots”.

  165. ampatsisahypocrite says: Sep 8, 2016 11:45 AM

    Wow, for once Palmer didn’t choke! Well said.

    And I just know the Patsie puppets would be getting their panties all in a bunch over it. Bonus time!

  166. monkeesfan says: Sep 8, 2016 12:00 PM

    When people claim “the trove of damning evidence” against Brady, they’re being phony. There IS NO evidence against Brady – on the contrary the ACTUAL evidence exonerates him. Even the NFL admitted to Judge Berman that it had no evidence. “The text messages and the video.” What “video?” And text messages prove something that physically can’t be accomplished? This happened for one reason – the dishonesty and personal spite of Roger Goodell – if he’d have done the right thing – admit nothing happened – there would be no credibility crisis with him.

  167. animalkindness says: Sep 8, 2016 12:08 PM

    Clearly if you have any opinion on this other than the Patriots you are damned.

    While I don’t care for Palmer, he is right. It is what it is now live with it.

  168. limakey says: Sep 8, 2016 12:09 PM

    Imodan, do you really accept that Spygate was stupid, arrogant and illegal? Then if that is the case you also must accept the fact that it was game altering cheating and it went on for years. And it was more than just illegal taping of both offensive and defensive signals. If you truly accepted Spygate then you must recognize that Roger Goodell protected the Pats by preventing congress from doing a full blown investigation. That he in fact, destroyed evidence to protect the Pats, refused to investigate the total depths of it and gave the Pats basically credibility for their Superbowl wins. He did that, he vouched for your team, your owner and your coach. He also made new policies and procedures to prevent from happening in the future. Including lowering the burden of proof, to policy for all staff and players to fully cooperate with an investigation. Policy and rules that Brady has pissed on again.

  169. mmack66 says: Sep 8, 2016 12:29 PM

    winninaintsinnin says:
    Sep 7, 2016 9:29 PM

    But I thought Pats fans told us all the players around the league were going to walk out in protest….
    ——————————–

    That’s what you get for thinking.

  170. dandeman19 says: Sep 8, 2016 5:30 PM

    For all that view that snow plow gate was cheating explain this. It was widely reported that HC Shula was offered and declined the use of the plow. Commish Rozelle was aware of this and rule it was not cheating

  171. limakey says: Sep 8, 2016 8:13 PM

    Dan, not true. The snow plow guy just made the choice to go out and do it. No one knew he was going to do it.

  172. lezmaka says: Sep 8, 2016 10:17 PM

    What’s sad is all the people that still think any of the court cases were all about determining whether Mr. Bundchen was involved with deflating his own balls or whether his balls were actually smaller than they should have been.

    It was about whether the NFL was within it’s rights to punish Gisele’s husband.

  173. limakey says: Sep 9, 2016 10:01 AM

    Lezmaka, Isn’t this the same Gisele who made it clear that her husband can’t throw the f-ing ball and catch it too, after the Pats lost the Superbowl to the Giants? The same who couldn’t believe how many dropped passes and those dropped passes lost the game for her husband?

    Perhaps this is when Operation Deflate came to be born.

  174. swagger52 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:08 PM

    Carson should have also said…

    Hey if I could get caught cheating and still be allowed to win a Super Bowl, then take a suspension a year later, I would do it too.

  175. fireroger says: Sep 9, 2016 12:21 PM

    I thought it was fumbles that were supposed to increase after deflategate? We know how that ended up.

    We can look at dropped passes as well. You’re going to be equally disappointed.

  176. swagger52 says: Sep 9, 2016 2:13 PM

    He should have said…

    Hey if I could get caught cheating and still be allowed to win a Super Bowl, then take a suspension a year later, I would do it too.

  177. dandeman19 says: Sep 9, 2016 9:24 PM

    OK the Limakey HC Shula did complain and Commish Rozelle said no rules broken. Also Hannah has stated that HC Shula was offered the use of the plow. A friend he had on the Dolphins told him that . Also yet again you are wrong HC Meyer asked the snowplow operator Mark Henderson to go out there.
    As usual LimaKey is factually challenged

  178. dandeman19 says: Sep 10, 2016 10:30 AM

    Oh Limakey again you are devoid of facts. Goodell made that mandate the yr before spygate. He did that when HC Mangini was caught spying on>>>>>> wait for it>>>>>>
    The Pats. After that he sent out a memo of approved and unapproved locales to watch teams practice. That was in 06 that same yr Goodell took power.
    Now Mangini was only slapped on the wrist Coach B was fined heavy for it. Coach B made it clear it was only him no one else was involved . Kraft even said he wanted to wring Coach B’s neck.
    LimaKey just stop you are proven wrong time after time it looks so sad .

  179. hammmerr says: Sep 10, 2016 3:40 PM

    Palmer is 100% correct,
    if you can’t do the time
    don’t commit the crime.
    Apparently, Brady can do the time.

  180. sportschatterdotco says: Sep 10, 2016 5:36 PM

    limakey says:
    Sep 8, 2016 12:09 PM
    Imodan, do you really accept that Spygate was stupid, arrogant and illegal? Then if that is the case you also must accept the fact that it was game altering cheating and it went on for years. And it was more than just illegal taping of both offensive and defensive signals. If you truly accepted Spygate then you must recognize that Roger Goodell protected the Pats by preventing congress from doing a full blown investigation. That he in fact, destroyed evidence to protect the Pats, refused to investigate the total depths of it and gave the Pats basically credibility for their Superbowl wins.
    ——–
    You say there was no investigation of spygate ( 1 of the few true statements you have ever posted) but also say it was more than just the taping…How do you know this?

    I know the answer, just want to see if you can be truthful for a change. (that is if this post gets posted…)

  181. johnwaldron8 says: Sep 11, 2016 12:55 AM

    In other words, Palmer was saying if you cheat and get caught, you suffer the consequences. Gee whiz. Such a radical, controversial thing to say.
    —————–
    If only it worked that way for all teams. For example, the Jets have been caught cheating on multiple occasions (illegal filming, tampering with footballs, tripping opposing players, tampering with impending free agents, etc) and the NFL has either covered these violations up or administered minimal punishments. So, some teams never suffer any consequences.

  182. brwmstr says: Sep 12, 2016 1:28 PM

    whoops…maybe he should have just kept his mouth shut….

  183. Mo Pro Babble says: Sep 12, 2016 1:37 PM

    HEY PAHMAH!

    Perhaps you should keep your opinions to yourself and concentrate on getting bettah!

    Because you know the truth.

    A pilot once told me there are 2 types of retractable gear pilots. This who have landed with the gear up and those that are going to.

    So it is with getting caught *cheating*. There are those who get caught and those that are going to. Please stop with the innuendo that your kids alway play fair.

  184. patriotsticketssince1978 says: Sep 12, 2016 1:42 PM

    Chuckle.

  185. Mo Pro Babble says: Sep 12, 2016 3:42 PM

    sportschatterdotco says:
    Sep 10, 2016 5:36 PM
    limakey says:
    Sep 8, 2016 12:09 PM
    Imodan, do you really accept that Spygate was stupid, arrogant and illegal?

    No, no and no. It was an incorrect interpretation by BB about the use of the tapes. Not that it mattered, the fix was in to try to tank the Pats season. Anyone who isn’t blinded by their devotion to their team knows this.

  186. whispersd says: Sep 13, 2016 12:29 AM

    Apparently the consequences include a quiet evening at home with a gorgeous wife, watching Jimmy G lead the Pats to a victory over the Cardinals.

    Among Palmer’s many disjointed ramblings on this topic was a reference to “altitude”. Regarding a game played in Foxboro, which might be 10m above sea level.

    People who cannot be bothered to learn the facts for themselves are going to be misled repeatedly, and for the rest of their lives, and about matters far more important to them than this.

    And if you think the Patriots cheated, this comment applies to you.

  187. veddermn8 says: Sep 13, 2016 4:56 PM

    limakey says:
    Sep 8, 2016 12:09 PM
    Imodan, do you really accept that Spygate was stupid, arrogant and illegal? Then if that is the case you also must accept the fact that it was game altering cheating and it went on for years. And it was more than just illegal taping of both offensive and defensive signals. If you truly accepted Spygate then you must recognize that Roger Goodell protected the Pats by preventing congress from doing a full blown investigation. That he in fact, destroyed evidence to protect the Pats, refused to investigate the total depths of it and gave the Pats basically credibility for their Superbowl wins.

    …..

    You conveintly left out the part where Goodell showed the tapes to the media before he got rid of them. And the rule about taping location wasn’t officially enacted until offseason after 2006. So Pats broke the rule for one game, and as determined by the NFL discipline committee, the Pats didn’t use the tapes in that game. So it was a rules violation which garnered zero competitive advantage. And it IS STILL LEGAL TO TAPE SIGNALS, you just can’t do it from the sidelines. Its equivalent to trying to steal baseball signs. You are broadcasting them to the whole stadium and its on you to change them up to keep the other team from figuring out your patterns. But cool story.

  188. veddermn8 says: Sep 13, 2016 5:01 PM

    limakey says:
    Sep 8, 2016 8:13 PM

    Dan, not true. The snow plow guy just made the choice to go out and do it. No one knew he was going to do it.

    …….

    Kickers brush the turf and kick snow away from their spot all the time. If that was illegal at the time, that is completely and solely on the referees who were standing right there watching it. Non point.

  189. veddermn8 says: Sep 13, 2016 5:18 PM

    limakey says:
    Sep 7, 2016 6:11 PM

    He told it like it was. Brady broke the rules and is suspended for it. The Wells Report was clear and logically put together. The NFL connected the all the dots. The Pats defense, the Wells Report In Context is scattered and is down right funny. The best part of it, is their science is the recollection of Walt Anderson. They based their total science on a human being’s recollection. Tell me Pat fans, where is the science that proves Walt Anderson could not be mistaken? Where is the law in physics that states human recollection trumps all science and experiments.

    ————-

    NFL’s ENTIRE case is based on the same guy’s recollection. So is Anderson’s memory good or bad? NFL says its both. It makes zero sense. And there is ZERO environmental time/temperature information given with regards to the conditions the footballs were exposed to prior to ref inspection, so Exponents use of the pregame measurements as a control is just ridiculous science.

  190. veddermn8 says: Sep 13, 2016 5:33 PM

    swagger52 says:
    Sep 9, 2016 2:13 PM

    He should have said…

    Hey if I could get caught cheating and still be allowed to win a Super Bowl, then take a suspension a year later, I would do it too.
    ——–

    That would be in line with the rest of his comments too so yea, you’re right. Because Palmer had no idea what he was talking about. Brady wasn’t caught cheating, Goodell can do whatever he wants, that is what this whole thing was about. Get your facts together.

  191. fireroger says: Sep 13, 2016 5:39 PM

    Exponent “proved” Anderson wrong by purchasing the very gauge he claims he didn’t use. Which kinda explains why their results lined up with the same gauge he claims he didn’t use. Science indeed.

  192. letmefeelyourlove says: Sep 13, 2016 8:54 PM

    veddermn8 says:
    Sep 13, 2016 5:18 PM

    Exponents use of the pregame measurements as a control is just ridiculous science.
    ___________________________________

    In fact, postgame measurements actually prove that the Colt’s footballs are not reliable as a control.

    After the AFCCG, psi measurements were taken of four Patriots’ and Colts’ footballs. Let’s analyze those measurements, using the numbers obtained from the Non-Logo gauge (the gauge Exponent ways Walt Anderson used).

    The Colts’ footballs measured 13.0 psi in a 69 degree shower room prior to the AFCCG, and 12.35 psi (on average) after the game Using Gay-Lussac’s Law (that’s what Exponent used), we can calculate that the Colts’ footballs were at 56.6 degrees when measured after the game.

    The Patriots’ footballs measured 13.075 psi (on average) after the AFCCG at the same 56.6 degrees. So, when they were inflated to 13.0 psi at halftime, the temperature of the Patriots’ footballs would have been 55.2 degrees.

    Exponent created a transient curve to illustrate what happens when a football measuring 48 degrees is brought into a 72 degree locker room (see Figure 22 in their report). That football would reach 55.2 degrees after just 3 to 4 minutes in the locker room.

    According to Exponent’s game day simulation (see page 58 of its report), measurement of the Patriots’ footballs psi did not begin until at least 3 to 4 minutes into halftime. After that it took roughly 5 minutes to measure the Patriots’ footballs. Only after that (and at a temperature far greater than 55.2°) could the footballs have been inflated by game officials.

    Using the Colts’ footballs as a control means the Patriots’ footballs would have been inflated well before psi measurement were taken! This proves the Colts’ footballs do not provide a reliable control.

  193. jbdvks says: Sep 13, 2016 11:25 PM

    So why do balls in New England go where they’re are not supposed to go? I guess we’ll never know.

  194. fireroger says: Sep 14, 2016 12:14 PM

    jbdvks says:
    Sep 13, 2016 11:25 PM
    So why do balls in New England go where they’re are not supposed to go? I guess we’ll never know.
    =========================
    According to the NFL and the pundits who fail to believe that balls never deflate naturally, we’ll never know why the Colts balls were under the limit as well.

  195. gedole says: Sep 14, 2016 2:26 PM

    Oh Carson. You done made something out of nuthin! How great will a Super Bowl be if Cardinals play Pats! If Brady is playing, bet the over and bet it big. Exciting times.

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