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No new deals yet for Jeff Fisher, Les Snead

MINNEAPOLIS, MN - SEPTEMBER 1: Head coach Jeff Fisher of the Los Angeles Rams looks on during the fourth quarter of the game against the Minnesota Vikings on September 1, 2016 at US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis, Minnesota. The Vikings defeated the Rams 27-25. (Photo by Hannah Foslien/Getty Images) Getty Images

When last we heard from the ESPN offseason cottage industry of reporting on the contractual status of Rams coach Jeff Fisher and G.M. Les Snead, ESPN said it was “likely” that both would get new contracts before the start of the regular season. The regular season starts tonight, and neither has a new deal.

A source with knowledge of the situation told PFT on Wednesday there’s “no update” on the contract discussions. The source added that there’s also no artificial by-Week-One-or-not-until-after-the-season deadline, either.

Still, the source said that the hope is that deals for both come sooner than later.

The reason for the delay isn’t known. Occam’s razor would suggest that Fisher and Snead want more than they are being offered, but there are plenty of other material terms unrelated to cash that can cause contract talks to languish.

Fisher signed a five-year deal in 2012. Without an extension, he will become a free agent after the 2016 season — and the Rams will have a vacancy that can be filled without a buyout obligation.

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51 Responses to “No new deals yet for Jeff Fisher, Les Snead”
  1. jag1959 says: Sep 8, 2016 11:49 AM

    Here’s a novel idea, how about they do something worthy of getting extensions?

  2. rob471773 says: Sep 8, 2016 11:51 AM

    Jeff Fisher has somehow convinced the NFL world that he’s a good coach, despite a 20 year sample size of being nothing better than a .500 coach.

    He should be on the hot seat not being considered for an extension.

  3. touchdownelvis says: Sep 8, 2016 11:53 AM

    A new deal for Jeff Fisher? Now that’s some 7-9 b——t right there.

  4. ariani1985 says: Sep 8, 2016 11:55 AM

    It will be for 8 million and 8 years! Get it?

  5. bubbybrister/shovelpass says: Sep 8, 2016 11:55 AM

    Fisher….There is a 50-50 chance that a new deal is coming…

  6. superpatriotsfan says: Sep 8, 2016 12:00 PM

    rob471773 says:
    Sep 8, 2016 11:51 AM
    Jeff Fisher has somehow convinced the NFL world that he’s a good coach, despite a 20 year sample size of being nothing better than a .500 coach.
    —————
    Same as Belichick, without Brady he is a .500 coach

  7. gojags says: Sep 8, 2016 12:00 PM

    The contract would be fisher paying kroenke a sandwich everyseason till they have a winning record.

  8. cfos00 says: Sep 8, 2016 12:00 PM

    What exactly is the argument for extending them? Either of them? Yes, Todd Gurley….then what, exactly?

  9. seabrawk12 says: Sep 8, 2016 12:00 PM

    1st overall pick for a 3rd string QB, that should help their chances.

  10. jmethane says: Sep 8, 2016 12:05 PM

    Watched Hard Knocks last night when they were making cuts.

    Those two are a couple jokes, Fisher walking around in his flip-flops all day now like a beach bum in LA. He thinks he’s got it made now….and for what? Check his record.

    I would say Jeff Fisher is one of the most overrated coaches ever but nobody even thinks he’s really that good so he’s not. Somehow he keeps his job being mediocre year after year.

    As a Seahawks fan it works for me but man after watching some hard knocks I like Jeff Fischer less than I did before. He has the personality of a butternut squash. He thinks that mustache makes him look cooler/meaner/whatever….kind of like a motorcycle cop.

  11. FraggleJones says: Sep 8, 2016 12:05 PM

    Captain 7-9 should probably just sign the contract. No one else will want him.

  12. tonebones says: Sep 8, 2016 12:07 PM

    Jeff Fisher is as good a coach as any. When he had a top tier QB, he was in the super bowl. Now he has a young one in Goff. He should be close to another super bowl in two or three years. Most winning coaches have great QBs. Did Belichick win any super bowls without Brady? Walsh-Montana? Shanahan-Elway? Noll-Bradshaw? Johnson-Aikman? etc., etc., etc. Let’s not kid ourselves. All these guys are great coaches. They just become great winning coaches when they have great QBs.

  13. PokeSalad says: Sep 8, 2016 12:19 PM

    What’s the going rate for 8-8?

  14. RegisHawk says: Sep 8, 2016 12:26 PM

    I should think they’d both have to pay to continue working, considering the results they’ve delivered so far.

  15. puffnstuff5005 says: Sep 8, 2016 12:28 PM

    If I was the owner, I would tell them that I expect a winning record before we talk about new contracts.

  16. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Sep 8, 2016 12:32 PM

    superpatriotsfan says:
    Sep 8, 2016 12:00 PM

    Same as Belichick, without Brady he is a .500 coach
    ——————–

    Says the same troll that on Pats threads calls Brady a system QB. At least your patsanoia is consistent.

  17. mongo3401 says: Sep 8, 2016 12:34 PM

    Fisher and Sneads record with the Rams is 26-37 in 4 years. Even with all the first round picks they got from Washington on the RG III fiasco, these guys have done nothing but blow hot air. So this deserves an extension ? Kroenke was t born yesterday.

  18. Grugenhagen says: Sep 8, 2016 12:34 PM

    If nothing else, Fisher should now be eligible for a SAG card after his performance on Hard Knocks.

    So he’s got that going for him…which is nice.

  19. 6ball says: Sep 8, 2016 12:40 PM

    .
    @tonebones

    Surely you jest. With that approach every coach saves his job just by saying, ” what’d ya expect, I didn’t have Joe Montana.” .

    Jeff Fisher had the time, draft picks, and cap space to put together a winner and at best they’re Jacksonville West. It’s his fault they haven’t had a quality QB.

    Finally, what makes you think Jeff Goff is going to the Super Bowl in two years? He’s never taken an NFL snap. Just being picked at the top of the draft does not guarantee a Lombardi Trophy in year two. Look at your hero QB, Luck. His window is shut, nailed, and painted over. With the improvements made in Tennessee, Jacksonville, and Houston the Colts won’t be starting the season at 6-0 like usual. My guess is they’ll be lucky to reach 500

    PS – tell Griggy thanks for passing on DT Malcolm Brown to select Phillip (the brittle dwarf) Dorsett in last year’s draft. Brown has already established himself as the Patriots best defensive lineman.
    .

  20. mattbilleauthor says: Sep 8, 2016 12:47 PM

    Here’s betting the ownership puts this on the back burner and looks again halfway through the season. If the Rams are 6-2, new contracts will get done. It they are 2-6, forget about it.

  21. kcflake says: Sep 8, 2016 12:51 PM

    Jeff Fisher’s rams coaching record Sucks. I was impressed with the way he did business on hard knocks. he has a track record. I would think if they don’t win this year he should be on the hot seat. Snead for sure. His drafting has been terrible.

  22. TheodoreBabyHandsBustAqua says: Sep 8, 2016 12:53 PM

    tonebones says:
    Sep 8, 2016 12:07 PM

    Jeff Fisher is as good a coach as any. When he had a top tier QB, he was in the super bowl. Now he has a young one in Goff. He should be close to another super bowl in two or three years. Most winning coaches have great QBs. Did Belichick win any super bowls without Brady? Walsh-Montana? Shanahan-Elway? Noll-Bradshaw? Johnson-Aikman? etc., etc., etc. Let’s not kid ourselves. All these guys are great coaches. They just become great winning coaches when they have great QBs.

    —————————————

    Coach Fisher, is that YOU?

  23. lingsun54 says: Sep 8, 2016 12:56 PM

    The only support I can give them is this: Who else would want the job?

  24. mightymightylafootball says: Sep 8, 2016 1:09 PM

    If you’re making the call on extending Fish, maybe you consider this: If you let him walk, does he have a realistic chance at another HC job?

    No? Then that’s where you start from, negotiation-wise…

    .500

  25. coutre says: Sep 8, 2016 1:16 PM

    Does Fisher get a bonus for sleeping with Blandino’s assistant?

  26. kemp13 says: Sep 8, 2016 1:21 PM

    Let’s see…

    1. Win something. Anything.

    2. Prove that mortgaging the franchise to draft Goff was worthwhile. 3rd string = not worthwhile.

  27. rosstuckershair says: Sep 8, 2016 1:46 PM

    Fisher? He would lead the 85 Bears to a 7-9 record. I have never understood the appeal of this guy.

    And Snead? No impact on the roster after the RGIII trade..Both need to go..

  28. vailskier99 says: Sep 8, 2016 1:49 PM

    Trading the Farm for a 3rd QB who would have been cut or put in practice squad by other teams will surely help their extension (sarcastic). If these two idiots get extended, the Rams fans should boycott the games because your team will go nowhere in the NFC West with these two idiots running the show.

  29. jjackwagon says: Sep 8, 2016 1:53 PM

    Real simple. You average the salaries of the other 31 HC’s and that’s what you pay him. If he wants more let him walk.

  30. MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoSeattle says: Sep 8, 2016 1:59 PM

    After that #1 draft pick, these two should be paying the Rams for damages inflicted.

  31. aaaegs says: Sep 8, 2016 2:01 PM

    Both will get an extension. Fisher served kroenkes purpose in navigating back to LA. Sneed talked a good game as a smokescreen.

  32. aaaegs says: Sep 8, 2016 2:03 PM

    It has nothing to do with wins and losses and they both know it

  33. vegasdestroyer says: Sep 8, 2016 2:05 PM

    Occam’s razor – the simplest reason is the best one why the Rams coach and GM are still waiting: Sam Bradford, Nick Foles and Jared Goff .

  34. computojon says: Sep 8, 2016 2:11 PM

    You’ll remember this comment, in the back of your mind, in seventeen weeks. The Rams will make the playoffs this year. They have an outstanding defense, that has actually improved from last year, partly due to their so-called “dubious” moves of releasing Laurinaitis and Chris Long. An outstanding defense will keep you in every game. Now for the offense. QB play was pathetic last year. (People also forget that Jeff Fisher coached 27 games without a starting QB.) Case Keenum is playing like a starting NFL QB. The Rams’ offensive line, awful last year, is clearly better. Todd Gurley is one of the best RBs in the league. Their WR corps is average but slightly improved.

    The Seahawks are so highly rated? Well, last year the Rams beat the Seahawks both times — in STL and in SEA. They beat the Cardinals. They beat the Buccaneers. This year they’re better, and I predict a 10-6 season. Scoff now, downvote me now, fine. But you’ll still remember this post seventeen weeks from now.

  35. artemidorus says: Sep 8, 2016 2:18 PM

    27-36-1. Never finished better than 3rd in the division.

    Can anyone explain to me how that record since starting the current contract warrants a new one?

  36. jmethane says: Sep 8, 2016 2:22 PM

    Anyone else completely unimpressed with Jared Goff on Hard Knocks? He seems like a kid with very little in the way of leadership skills. He doesn’t command respect or even really look like he wants to.

    You might not like Russell Wilson but that’s what he has in spades. It got everyone’s attention as a rookie right away and that and his play in the pre-season is what won him the starting job over the recently signed 8mil/year Matt Flynn.

    Goff doesn’t have the same study habits, command of the huddle. I’m not sold on this guy at all yet.

  37. kneedragr says: Sep 8, 2016 2:29 PM

    I never like Jeff Fisher. Seems like his teams are always chippy with a lot of cut blocks and cheap shots after the whistle. Its like thats the only way they can win, by getting the other team out of their game because they are always run heavy, short pass and conservative defense – ‘let the other team lose’ type gameplan. Thats pretty much a recipe for mediocrity.

  38. kjdoyle58 says: Sep 8, 2016 2:30 PM

    Snead has been pretty decent the last couple of drafts..DROY Aaron Donald, and OROY Todd Gurley to name the obvious ones….time will tell on the Goff trade, but he’s at least shown the nads to make a deal….I think he gets overlooked because it hasn’t translated to an above .500 record yet, and he is in the NFC West with the media darlings of Schnider(sp) and Keim…as far as Fisher goes, he needs to embrace modern football and hire a decent OC to bring the offense up….my $.02 anyway.

  39. baldbuc says: Sep 8, 2016 3:08 PM

    Agree with most everyone here. Fisher is a career 8-8 coach and I don’t get why owners think he is so great.

    For the QB comment, yeah he made it to ONE Super Bowl with McNair however how many solid years did McNair contribute? He played for Fisher 11 years. Also let’s not forget that if it wasn’t for that controversial/fluke (was it a forward pass?) “Music City Miracle” where his team just choked up their lead in the closing seconds, there would have been no Super Bowl appearance.

  40. odp456 says: Sep 8, 2016 3:13 PM

    Fisher sucks, end of story. Same problems every year: no discipline, stupid penalties and no self-respecting OC wants to take the Rams OC job because of Fisher. I was fine with Snead up until the past season and off-season. Did not get any of the impending FA defensive starters signed during the season or before FA began (Johnson, Jenkins, McLeod, Barron) so 2 are gone, 1 is way overpaid and the other will be gone after this year when they can’t afford to franchise him again. Snead might get a pass on Goff. Pretty sure that was an ownership “you better make this happen” thing. I don’t think even Snead and Fisher are dumb enough to come up with that one on their own.

  41. haywoodjablomey says: Sep 8, 2016 3:13 PM

    You gotta hand it to Fish, at least he’s consistent. All the predictions this season are for 7-9.

  42. laserw says: Sep 8, 2016 3:44 PM

    Why should Fisher get a new deal?

    What has he done to earn continued employment?

  43. waynefontesismyfather says: Sep 8, 2016 4:01 PM

    So…..by simply having a pulse they’re expecting contract extensions? The old men who sit in the corner at coffee shops across America could do more with less than these two guys.

    Get real. Take a hike.

  44. jackedupboonie says: Sep 8, 2016 4:18 PM

    Jeff should sit during the anthem and protest…..this is not good news for Seattle and Arizona(Clara isn’t even considered a threat anymore) because every year that Defense has the Stach at the helm, it means they aren’t a threat to win the division.

  45. alonestartexan says: Sep 8, 2016 4:31 PM

    Jeff Fisher is a good coach, he’s just not an overly successful one.

    Some of the teams he had in Nashville (minus the likes of McNair, George, Kearse, Mason, and Rolle) were pretty average at best and he managed to get the most out of them for as long as he could.

    Granted, he has a LOT of .500 records, but he has a lot of 10+ win seasons too.

  46. steves11 says: Sep 8, 2016 4:33 PM

    The fact that Fisher has lasted the term of his 5 year contract has to say “something” about his credibility as a head coach. Most coaches with his Rams track record would have been fired by now.

  47. MichaelEdits says: Sep 8, 2016 8:11 PM

    If you want to keep losing more games than you win, give them new contracts.

  48. varnbo says: Sep 9, 2016 11:09 AM

    The fact he is even being consider for an extension is one of the reasons the league has the Rooney Rule.

    The mere thought of Fisher being extended stinks and makes one ask a lot of questions.

    Hire an up and coming new guy to go with the new location. Even Rams fans don’t want this guy and they’re excited about everything right now.

  49. stlouisfan says: Sep 9, 2016 11:58 AM

    Fisher has done his job. He was hired to help move the team to LA . He has accomplished that. This organization doesn’t care about winning. The King of California got what he wanted. When he interviewed Fisher for the job , the move to LA was brought up. Fisher helped the Oilers move to Tennessee and that’s what the King wanted. So as far as earning his 7 million a year , he has. The move was planned long before last year. Its evident in the way they drafted taking OL and DL , not drafting any receivers , QBs or any other players that could excite a fan base in STL. Not until they drafted TG and with that they knew they were moving the next year. This year they move to the #1 spot in the draft and draft a QB to get fans interested and make a splash. Its not hard to put this puzzle together . The King is interested in one thing ….$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. That’s how he counts wins and losses.

  50. b4utoo says: Sep 9, 2016 6:48 PM

    I’M DIEHARD RAMS FAN…
    MY ONLY COMPLAINT….WELL TODAY ANYWAYS…

    RAMS ORGANIZATION NEVER ADDRESSES THE NEEDS ON TIME…ALWAYS DAY LATE DOLLAR SHORT…..THEY WILL ADDRESS A CERTAIN NEED ONLY WHEN TWO MORE OPEN UP….

    RIGHT NOW RAMS ONLY REAL NEED RIGHT NOW IS A #1 WIDE RECIEVER… A TRUE #1…

    Maybe pick up a CB in the draft or Safety…add some REAL depth back there….

    2017 OR SOONER….JUST DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AND GET THAT “GUY” THAT #1…AND ONLY EXCUSE WILL BE THE COACHING…

    RAMS WOULD BE PLAYOFF BOUND EVERY YEAR WITH MEDIOCRE COACHING…

  51. aykbq2 says: Sep 15, 2016 10:45 AM

    Fisher has to go. Its not just that he’s a bad coach, he’s also the GM. It’s Snead’s basically in title. Fisher was the one who hired him and is calling the shots from a personnel standpoint.

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