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Broncos safety says he’ll appeal any fine he gets for a head shot

DENVER, CO - SEPTEMBER 08:  Quarterback Cam Newton #1 of the Carolina Panthers is hit by free safety Darian Stewart #26 of the Denver Broncos in the third quarter at Sports Authority Field at Mile High on September 8, 2016 in Denver, Colorado.  (Photo by Dustin Bradford/Getty Images) Getty Images

Perhaps the Broncos weren’t trying to target Cam Newton’s head.

But they absolutely wanted to hit him, and made no apologies for that after it worked.

While the Panthers quarterback took a number of helmet-to-helmet shots in the second half of last night’s loss to the Broncos, one of the guys who got him didn’t think his play was dirty.

I thought I [led] with the shoulder,” Broncos safety Darian Stewart told Tom Pelissero of USA Today. “But he’d been running the whole game, so I was unsure if he was a passer or if he was going to run. I just took the shot, man.”

Newton’s ability to run often puts him in a gray area for officials and puts him in jeopardy. But a number of the shots he took last night were in the pocket, and will likely result in fines.

But Stewart said he’d appeal any fine he received — and honestly, since it worked, it’s hard to argue fines are a deterrent for headshots anyway.

While Newton took the high road last night, his teammates were clearly bothered by the lack of protection he got from officials.

“I try to warn the refs every time I do get hit in the head. But if the flag is not called, then it’s OK,” Newton said.

And the Broncos made it equally clear that they wanted to hit him as often as possible, because not playing against the Most Valuable Player in the league generally increases your chances of winning ball games.

“We wanted to make sure it got to him, so every time he ran, we tried to put a helmet or shoulder pads on him,” Broncos safety T.J. Ward said. “If he’s not going to slide, then we’re really going to put something on you. We’ve seen him limp throughout the game. So, that run stuff — you can’t do that all game with your quarterback.”

Newton was still able to move his team into position for a potential game-winning field goal, before Graham Gano missed his second attempt from 50 yards (after Broncos coach Gary Kubiak called a timeout just before he hit one, providing evidence that icing kickers can work too).

But he clearly wasn’t the same player in the second half, the result of a collection of hits both clean and dubious.

“I could in the second half, yeah,” Stewart said. “With two minutes left, man, and that rush get on him, you could tell then. I think that’s our moment.”

Stewart’s hit was the only one that was penalized, and also the last one and the most violent. It was also nullified by an intentional grounding penalty, as if Newton’s act of self-defense was the equivalent of taking a helmet to the jaw.

And as long as the result is positive for players and teams, it’s hard to imagine any expectation the behavior will change.

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  1. captainspangled says: Sep 9, 2016 11:46 AM

    I’ve gotta sat, I woke up this morning with a bit of shame at being a Broncos fan. Coach Kubial needs to get this house in order. There were some definite cheap shots out there and they represented us horribly. Embarrassing.

    Darian probably deserves to be suspended.

  2. politiciansareallthesame says: Sep 9, 2016 11:46 AM

    Some of those were blatant shots. I understand if the NFL would rig the game for their golden boy, Tom Brady.. but the Broncos?

  3. jjackwagon says: Sep 9, 2016 11:48 AM

    Need a new Bounty-gate investigation after that game.

  4. toekramp says: Sep 9, 2016 11:49 AM

    Not saying that those penalties should be offsetting, but in no world was his intentional grounding ‘self-defense’

  5. bkostela says: Sep 9, 2016 11:49 AM

    “It was also nullified by an intentional grounding penalty, as if Newton’s act of self-defense was the equivalent of taking a helmet to the jaw.”
    ___________

    If Cam didn’t want to get hit, he could have thrown the ball away as soon as he was outside of the tackle box. He probably would have been able to avoid a grounding penalty too, since he was running away from a defender at that point, rather than staring at a defender running full speed at him.

    But the penalty favored Cam anyway. Had he thrown the ball away and not gotten hit, he would have given up that down. Instead, he got to replay it.

  6. daytontriangles says: Sep 9, 2016 11:49 AM

    He’ll likely win his appeal.

    Apparently the Jets aren’t the only team on Roger Goodell’s gold star list.

  7. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Sep 9, 2016 11:50 AM

    He can prevaricate to his heart’s content but Stewart launched to make the hit. I can’t abide Newton’s act but that was a blatant cheap shot.

  8. harshedmellow says: Sep 9, 2016 11:50 AM

    It’s football. The defense is SUPPOSED to take any shot they get at the QB. We do no not WANT that “behavior to change”.

    That being said I thought he looked concussed on that last hit. At a bare minimum he needed to sit a down and be evaluated.

  9. electricnostalgia says: Sep 9, 2016 11:51 AM

    Panthers were also getting dirty in the trenches and taking cheap shots… Wolfe’s neck injury, Panthers Olineman diving at Chris Harris Jr on the ground after the interception. I don’t like the dirty stuff… but lets not pretend it was one sided.

  10. corkspop says: Sep 9, 2016 11:51 AM

    Dirty hit. Replay doesn’t lie. Pay your fine and stop making excuses.

  11. snapcracklepopfart says: Sep 9, 2016 11:53 AM

    1 times is an accident.

    5 times is a strategy.

  12. hatersgonnahatehate says: Sep 9, 2016 11:53 AM

    Brandon Marshall had the dirtiest hit, launched himself at his head after the ball was released

  13. jayhawk6 says: Sep 9, 2016 11:53 AM

    Maybe if the offensive linemen who play the Broncos collaborated to maim Von Miller, Denver’s cheap shot artists would dial it back a little.

  14. dkeucd says: Sep 9, 2016 11:54 AM

    Looks like there has been a lot more butts hurt than heads this morning. Where is the burthurt protocol?

  15. najacoo22 says: Sep 9, 2016 11:54 AM

    And his appeal will be promptly denied. He clearly led with the helmet, it wasn’t just a bang-bang play.

  16. myworldurjuslivinit says: Sep 9, 2016 11:55 AM

    When you Dance, you pay! nuf said.

  17. kurdishpats1 says: Sep 9, 2016 11:55 AM

    No reason to watch games anymore. Skipped it last night and caught the highlights this morning.

    Thanks Goodell.

  18. motorcitydiddy says: Sep 9, 2016 11:57 AM

    I just took the shot, man.
    ————————
    You took it… AND BROKE A MAJOR RULE OF ENGAGEMENT

  19. ajames35 says: Sep 9, 2016 11:58 AM

    He can appeal all he wants, but his fine will definitely be forthcoming.

    If Stewart thinks he didn’t launch helmet-first toward Newton’s head, then maybe HE was the one concussed… That was a textbook illegal hit on a passer (not a runner) after the ball was gone.

  20. Centered00 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:01 PM

    It was obvious the Broncos defense was out to injure Newton. I was shocked at the lack of flags. Dirty football by today’s standards, “old school” by former standards.

    BTW- Brandon Marshall, you didn’t do yourself any favors by taking a knee during our country’s National Anthem. But given you had a woman who butchered it to death when she sang it, I would have been tempted. Stay classy Denver.

  21. MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoSeattle says: Sep 9, 2016 12:01 PM

    Good job Broncos, keep up the good work!
    The Diva can’t take pressure.

  22. lenthevikesfan says: Sep 9, 2016 12:02 PM

    Remember when a Detroit Lion lightly brushed Aaron Rodgers facemask last season and they threw a flag and gave Green Bay another chance to win the game? I guess Cam knows now even with his MVP he’s not on that level yet. The shots he was taking were a lot worse and more visible to the officials . The NFL is rarely consistent on anything. Unless you smoked weed. Then they’re pretty consistent.

  23. lewsblues says: Sep 9, 2016 12:02 PM

    I’m curious why the hit was not deemed the reason the pass did not reach the line of scrimmage?

    It sure was close (the act of throwing and getting hit) …

  24. deprado1 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:03 PM

    Appeal and you will still lose. Not a fan of either team, but the refs definitely missed at least 2-3 head shots.

  25. rcassell27 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:05 PM

    If it was Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady taking those hits, players would have been ejected during the game. Dirty football is a part of the game but, they’ve supposedly focused on stopping these type of helmet to helmet hits from happening. Game 1 of the season and it’s obvious they haven’t unless…

  26. milehighmagik7 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:05 PM

    Only people making excuses are Panthers fans and players. They had their shot but couldn’t do it..again.. Clearly had a QB who was hit time and again but if he runs and lowers his pads to make it a helmet to helmet then thats on him. So was Cam just acting hurt then after those shots? Cause if he was clearly shaken up by them then why did the neurologist and the spotter and the coaches put him back on instead of waiting until after the game to follow concussion protocol? Clearly a violation and they should ve fined as well when as you put it “Safety” comes first on those hits

  27. PokeSalad says: Sep 9, 2016 12:06 PM

    The NFL clearly wants to teach Cam a lesson.

  28. getyourownname says: Sep 9, 2016 12:07 PM

    I’m probably in the minority but it did not look like a head shot, which to me means an intentional attempt to hit the head. Problem was Cam had been slowed up (I think by another defender) and could not evade freely, Stewart wasn’t blocked at all, so Cam was in a tough position. Looked like Stewart was first aiming at the shoulders, probably with intent to try to cause a fumble with a hard hit, then Cam ducked resulting in some helmet contact.

    If that’s a penalty due to how the rule is enforced (which we frequently see), then so be it, but it did not look like an intentional head shot to me. Defender has a right to try to tackle a big guy with a hard hit.

    Real issue is that this rule is applied differently to different QBs. Does anyone doubt Brady would have been dancing around with his “throw the flag” dance movement every time he got hit, and getting the flag?

  29. xavier179 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:07 PM

    Wade Phillips should be ashamed of the dirty tactics used by his defense. #26 now joins TJ Ward, Talib and Von Miller as true headhunters.
    Head referee was totally indifferent on calls he should have made.

  30. stevegrogannakedbootleg says: Sep 9, 2016 12:08 PM

    Surprised Talib didn’t get in on the party .

  31. kenmasters34 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:11 PM

    Dirty hits by dirty players on a dirty team.

    #Integrity

  32. patswhatsup says: Sep 9, 2016 12:11 PM

    politiciansareallthesame says:
    Sep 9, 2016 11:46 AM
    Some of those were blatant shots. I understand if the NFL would rig the game for their golden boy, Tom Brady.. but the Broncos?

    ________________________________

    You mean the “golden boy” who is suspended 4 games despite not being proven guilty by any stretch of the imagination?

    Righto.

    I think you mean Golden Boy Manning who got HGH shipped to his wife WHILE SHE WAS PREGNANT. lol

  33. newmancave2016 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:11 PM

    captainspangled says:
    Sep 9, 2016 11:46 AM
    I’ve gotta sat, I woke up this morning with a bit of shame at being a Broncos fan. Coach Kubial needs to get this house in order. There were some definite cheap shots out there and they represented us horribly. Embarrassing.

    Darian probably deserves to be suspended.
    ——————-

    Dude…really? I’m not a Broncos fan and I totally disagree. Fines? Possibly. Suspension and criticizing the head coach? Come on. I saw one late hit that wasn’t called, and even that was not egregious. The one he got the call for in the 4th quarter was definitely a penalty and will very likely be a fine. But it surely didn’t seem intentional. He didn’t launch himself.

    As for Cam, I think both sides have valid points. The problem is they know he can run and will do so. Protecting him by the letter of the law is harder to do.

  34. trailerparkking says: Sep 9, 2016 12:11 PM

    None of these hits would be considered”dirty” 10-15 years ago. The Stewart one I understand people saying was cheap but including the Miller one is laughable.

  35. qbarrel says: Sep 9, 2016 12:12 PM

    politiciansareallthesame says:
    Sep 9, 2016 11:46 AM
    Some of those were blatant shots. I understand if the NFL would rig the game for their golden boy, Tom Brady.. but the Broncos?

    ————————

    The NFL has been smoothing the path for the Broncos for decades, starting with the slap on the wrist they gave them for their flagrant violation of the salary cap during the Shannahan years.

  36. mmack66 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:14 PM

    What does it matter if a guy is a runner or a passer?

    Why do the rules allow one guy to take a head shot while disallowing a head shot on the other?

  37. dansardo says: Sep 9, 2016 12:17 PM

    Was his hit as well as a number of hits the broncos made dirty and going to end up drawing large fines? Of course they were. But the idea that a player would just “take the fine” without appealing is also ridiculous.

  38. FinFan68 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:17 PM

    “But he’d been running the whole game, so I was unsure if he was a passer or if he was going to run. I just took the shot, man.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    Punk move. It is about making a tackle, not taking ‘the shot’. It shows this guy’s mindset is screwed up and he is not alone. This is precisely the kind of player that should be fined.

  39. jimmyjohns01 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:18 PM

    “I was unsure if he was a passer or if he was going to run. I just took the shot, man.””

    Going to be the generic response for hitting running QBS.

  40. vicksdawgpound says: Sep 9, 2016 12:20 PM

    Come on now. Yeah he took some hits to the head but they didn’t look intentional they were just playing hard. It wasn’t like they were doing it like Talib did in the Super Bowl. It’s a contact sport and while they try to avoid headshot sits going to happen it’s just part of the game.

  41. jag1959 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:22 PM

    That was hardly the only dirty hit they put on Newton, it wasn’t even the only one where they launched at him, and he obviously wasn’t a runner on that play. Hard to call the players to account when the refs were letting it go but it’s easy to call out Stewart’s obvious lie. Dude launched himself. This is hardly the first cheap shot anyone has seen him take. He’s a dirty player, combining him with Ward makes for among the dirtiest safety tandems in the league but it’s only a penalty if they call it. Fines after the fact don’t change what happens on the field. That is on the officials or maybe the guys at Park Ave talking in their ears. And that’s from a non Panthers fan

  42. plum54 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:23 PM

    Denver just proved they can only win by playing dirty, interesting how the refs ignored blatant violations. Just goes to prove even w/o HGH the refs are still ignoring calls that go against Denver.

  43. oddte says: Sep 9, 2016 12:23 PM

    The officials sure seemed eager to give Denver that last touchdown. Didn’t look to me like they ever converted on that fourth down but the refs gave them a generous spot twice.

  44. bigpete07 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:24 PM

    Make a helmet to helmet blow an automatic ejection from the game. Problem solved.

  45. milehighmagik7 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:24 PM

    I love how the Broncos are considered dirty players by some of you fools. I understand that you hate us cause your hopes of a division title are not if your teams are good but rest solely on if the Broncos are bad and that is pathetic. The players play hard and hit hard and will push the boundaries and that is fine. Thats why they are a top D cause the dont ait back and shy away like your teams. But hey dont worry the Broncos may be bad enough where your teams can finally win the division. I mean your teams aren’t good enough but the Broncos may be bad enough for you

  46. joshgordonsbong says: Sep 9, 2016 12:25 PM

    stevegrogannakedbootleg says:
    Sep 9, 2016 12:08 PM
    Surprised Talib didn’t get in on the party .
    ———————————————————

    Mr Class Act was too busy dishing cheap shots to players going out of bounds…

  47. skinsdiehard says: Sep 9, 2016 12:33 PM

    It’s just part of the game? That’s your best rationale? You know what, penalties are part of the game. If you hit someone in the head while tackling, then you will be penalized.

  48. broncoscountry33 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:34 PM

    Wow. The narratives the media comes up with every week are crazy. Also it’s football people. If he get hit in the head in the pocket that should be called but remember this game moves lighting fast and helmets are going to inadvertently hit. Also. One week it’s where does a defender hit a Qb legally And the next its there’s no protection for cam. He’s getting hit in the head. Make up your minds. If cam is going to run his mouth and run he’s going to get hit hard outside the pocket. He was jawing all night. Go Broncos love the defense.

  49. stoopidfool says: Sep 9, 2016 12:35 PM

    what comes around, goes around…….

    Broncos fans should not complain when their players start getting taken out

  50. blackbug99 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:36 PM

    Is it really that tough? Behind the line he’s a QB. Don’t care if it looks like he might run. As long as he’s behind the line he can throw. The refs have enough problems w/all their convoluted rules…KISS should be in effect.

  51. trigzter says: Sep 9, 2016 12:38 PM

    I’ve gotta say when I woke up this morning…i was pissed that I played cj anderson in fantasy. reguardless of that the headshots on cam weren’t cool

  52. trailerparkking says: Sep 9, 2016 12:38 PM

    My biggest thing is consistency really. I don’t think the Broncos are dirty but if the refs are going to make that call for Brady and Rodgers then call if for Cam, Luck, and Ben. That’s been my whole issue with these qb hits. Certain QBs had rules changed to protect them but the rules seem to only apply to them. Brady is responsible for making the nfl so soft.

  53. skinsdiehard says: Sep 9, 2016 12:38 PM

    T.J. Ward: We wanted to make sure it got to him, so every time he ran, we tried to put a helmet or shoulder pads on him. If he’s not going to slide, then we’re really going to put something on you. We’ve seen him limp throughout the game. So, that run stuff — you can’t do that all game with your quarterback.”
    —————————————————————
    One of the stupidest comments I have ever heard to justify helmet-to-helmet hit on a QB. So, the Broncos are trying to punish Cam because they don’t like to see a QB running all game? To hell with the rules? See, in this case, I would double the fines are openly admitting that you wanted to cause helmet contact.

  54. plum54 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:43 PM

    Pretty pathetic Denver fans are justifying playing dirty. There’s a big difference between playing hard and playing dirty like Denver did last night.So much for integrity , right Roger?!

  55. officialgame says: Sep 9, 2016 12:43 PM

    As an Eagles fan watching the game I thought the helmet shots to the head wear cheap. Now I would want my team to hit the Broncos QB twice as hard in the head instead of whining after the game. Tit for tat, you cheap shot us I will give it back and then some.

  56. kissbillsrings says: Sep 9, 2016 12:43 PM

    Man…. Whomever they had sing the National Anthem absolutely BUTCHERED IT TO THE MAX…, what a HORRIBLE RENDITION

  57. kfoyo808 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:44 PM

    Newton lowered himself before the impact – Bronco would have gone square into his chest. It’s football – they’re not wearing pinnies playing shirts v skins.

  58. realfootballfan says: Sep 9, 2016 12:44 PM

    Broncos are the dirtiest team n the league.

  59. celticsforever says: Sep 9, 2016 12:45 PM

    NFL Haves:

    Steelers (coach on the field, head coach interfering with a play, unpunished headhunting)
    Colts (piped in crowd noise, injury report? what injury report???)
    Broncos (salary cap, phantom calls)
    Giants (mara… enough said there)
    Giants again (personal conduct policy? what policy??? 1 game suspension for you, 6 for everyone else)
    ANY TEAM that has a Manning on it
    Jets (former employer of intern roger goodell)

    Have-Nots:
    Cowboys (salary cap penalties – see mara)
    Redskins (see Cowboys)
    Pats – enough said there
    Saints – phantomgate… err I mean bountygate

  60. kcflake says: Sep 9, 2016 12:46 PM

    Well of course you don’t think you should be fined. you are a dirty bronco. head shot or not. You think you should get off scot free. Goodell should start suspending these broncos and strip some draft picks if they fail to clean up their act. Embarrassing to the game.

  61. greg2geez says: Sep 9, 2016 12:48 PM

    Love seeing DG turn sour grapes into sour whine, makes my day.

  62. snowdood163 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:48 PM

    oddte says:
    Sep 9, 2016 12:23 PM
    The officials sure seemed eager to give Denver that last touchdown. Didn’t look to me like they ever converted on that fourth down but the refs gave them a generous spot twice.

    If you don’t think the 4th down was a conversion, you’re either blind, completely stupid, a panthers homer, or some combination of the three.

  63. broncos3245 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:50 PM

    Mark Schlereth said it best and all footballs players do it….you’re going to continue to walk the line until they continue to call it. Maybe we are dirty but we take advantage of what’s given to us. Was it a helmet to helmet absolutely it happens. Cam would probably learn to slide TJ Ward literally said were gunna come at you with a helmet or shoulder pads until you do…yes it might be dirty but we’re in his head and it shows. He’s 0-3 against us and we’ve destroyed him each time. He takes a lot of the contact on himself so it’s his fault half the time, clear example on the hit by Bradley Roby….Cam clearly initiated the contact. I counted 3 times we hit him high and it was called 1 time but there were 3-4 plays where Von was held and tackled to the ground blatant and it wasn’t called. Things happen, were a physical team match us or get out physicaled simple as that.

  64. iknoweverything2 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:51 PM

    I read the top couple of post. Let me say this. Slow it down and the hit looks like clear head to head, speed it up and watch it full speed. Clearly tried leading with his shoulder, Cam dropped lower than he was originally which lined up “helmet to helmet”. Everyone loves to talk about how big and physical Cam is but when he’s hit in the head it’s oh my god moment. I do not agree with targeting players heads at all!!! But I also do not support Cam running toward the sideline then suddenly catching a DB off guard ,who has pulled up expecting Cam to go out of bounds, then getting leveled cause he didn’t want to draw a penalty. Not just Cam either, I have seen running backs do this too. That defender has no protection at that point. Maintain the rules for everyone and every position!

  65. icanthink4myself says: Sep 9, 2016 12:52 PM

    electricnostalgia says:
    Sep 9, 2016 11:51 AM
    Panthers were also getting dirty in the trenches and taking cheap shots… Wolfe’s neck injury, Panthers Olineman diving at Chris Harris Jr on the ground after the interception. I don’t like the dirty stuff… but lets not pretend it was one sided.
    ————————
    If I’m remembering it correctly, the difference was the refs threw the flag on the late hit after the interception.

  66. hawkforlife says: Sep 9, 2016 12:53 PM

    Typical Panther fans and players (and PFT reaction). The game started off with Newton doing his usual classless bully tactic by pushing a Bronco DB, doing nothing but walking after a play, out of the way for no reason and glaring at him.

    It almost started a fight and then Newton wonders why he’s hated around the country. If he would just act like a professional once in while maybe games wouldn’t get out of control.

  67. dbfan4ever says: Sep 9, 2016 12:54 PM

    Newton lowered himself before the impact – Bronco would have gone square into his chest. It’s football – they’re not wearing pinnies playing shirts v skins.
    ———————————————————————-Good eye. I saw that too. Stewart already committed to his hit and at the very last second Newton lowered his head. Similarly the helmet to helmet contact with Von Miller only occurred because Newton turned his head. I think it would be hard to suggest intent on Von Miller’s part because at the time that Miller hit Newton his head was facing in the opposite direction.

  68. jrbtoo says: Sep 9, 2016 12:55 PM

    when michael vick took those hits , you justified as by saying he’s a running quarterback……….well so is cam , take the hits or stay in the pocket

  69. 3yardsndust says: Sep 9, 2016 12:56 PM

    Broncos are plagued with dirty players and a coaching group that clearly encourages them.

  70. realfootballfan says: Sep 9, 2016 12:56 PM

    milehighmagik7 ,

    So why didn’t that apply to Vontez Burfict? Looked pretty much like what he got vilified for in the aftermath of that playoff game last year is what your defense was doing all of the second half. Just asking since I know you’d be consistent on that point, or maybe you’re just a homer making excuses for your dirty team. Don’t worry though, teams won’t discriminate with the knees if it keeps going on, and since they got away with lots of it last year, I’m sure they won’t stop. Seems to be part of the game plan, 1, 2, 3, play dirty.

  71. sc5000 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:58 PM

    Love how the national media is running with this story so hardn to try and take the attention off the fact they don’t know a damn thing about this team and Trevor Siemian.

    Your doomsday predictions are duly noted as well as your ignorance. Fact is without a TON of Denver mistakes this game isnt close.

    Sorry about the butthurt and another round of salty tears down your faces.

  72. mmack66 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:59 PM

    trailerparkking says:
    Sep 9, 2016 12:11 PM

    None of these hits would be considered”dirty” 10-15 years ago. The Stewart one I understand people saying was cheap but including the Miller one is laughable.
    ——————————–

    Well, this is today, and the NFL has to pretend like they give a damn about concussions and needless injuries. Except if the team is the Broncos.

  73. metalman5150 says: Sep 9, 2016 12:59 PM

    Oh come on!

    If those were not helmet to helmets on Cam Newton, then I don’t know or care to know football anymore.

  74. Shinnbone says: Sep 9, 2016 1:01 PM

    He’ll appeal and lose and guess what he’ll do……sit during the National Anthem and this BS will go on and on, the NFL will cave immediately.

  75. dbfan4ever says: Sep 9, 2016 1:01 PM

    As an Eagles fan watching the game I thought the helmet shots to the head wear cheap. Now I would want my team to hit the Broncos QB twice as hard in the head instead of whining after the game. Tit for tat, you cheap shot us I will give it back and then some.
    ———————————————————————–
    As an Eagles fan you won’t have the chance too since they are not on the Broncos schedule and they don’t have a chance to sniff the playoffs let alone make it to the Super Bowl! The fact that you think that the Broncos were intentionally trying to hit Newton in the head indicates that you know next to nothing about football. Makes sense though, after all you are an Eagles fan, right?

  76. mmack66 says: Sep 9, 2016 1:02 PM

    kissbillsrings says:
    Sep 9, 2016 12:43 PM

    Man…. Whomever they had sing the National Anthem absolutely BUTCHERED IT TO THE MAX…, what a HORRIBLE RENDITION
    ————————

    It was pretty disrespectful to the members of the military industrial complex. Probably only second to Rosanne Barr’s rendition.

  77. milehighspiral says: Sep 9, 2016 1:03 PM

    Watching the replay, Stewart launches as Newton throws. Newton’s throwing motion causes his head to dip down into Stewart’s hit. So it wasn’t a cheap shot. It was unfortunate timing. That being said, I hate to see it.

    The Panthers use Newton recklessly. I don’t know how he’ll make it through the year. He’s an incredible player and fun to watch but like Andrew Luck he needs to learn how to preserve himself.

  78. oldcracker says: Sep 9, 2016 1:08 PM

    LoL – Waa, waa, waa. Poor little Panther fans.

    Cam should just thank God that he didn’t play real football, circa 40’s – 60’s. Just put a red jersey on him.

  79. sweetnlow44 says: Sep 9, 2016 1:12 PM

    I’m in no way a Bronco’s fan in the slightest, but the crying going on in here is ridiculous. If Cam wants to run like he’s a running back, he’s gonna get hit like he’s a running back. On that last one, the defender led with his shoulder. There should be no fine. The only reason their helmets collided was because Cam ducked at the last second. What’s the defense supposed to do against a running QB? Stop and play 2 hand touch? Get real, quarterbacks are still football players and if you’re not going to slide or get down when you see contact coming and instead try and run through defenders, you better believe they’re going to hit you. Quit the crying already.

  80. guitarkevin says: Sep 9, 2016 1:13 PM

    What is stopping teams from sending guys after the QB to concuss him so he is forced to sit out on a potential game winning drive?

    NOTHING!!!!!!

  81. ajames35 says: Sep 9, 2016 1:15 PM

    kfoyo808 says:
    Newton lowered himself before the impact

    Except that did not happen. At all. And it won’t happen when the NFL watches the film and assesses Stewart a fine. Textbook illegal hit. Nice try though.

  82. lots123 says: Sep 9, 2016 1:15 PM

    oddte says:
    Sep 9, 2016 12:23 PM
    The officials sure seemed eager to give Denver that last touchdown. Didn’t look to me like they ever converted on that fourth down but the refs gave them a generous spot twice.

    ——————-

    Sure dude. Go ahead and burn another timeout to challenge it.
    Horrible game management from the Panthers burning all there TO’s in no time during the game

  83. epauley424 says: Sep 9, 2016 1:19 PM

    Interesting how the Panthers score a TD and they call a personal foul on Trai Turner for clapping and said it was taunting. They sure were watching that closely. Last year in the playoffs, a player grazed Aaron Rodgers facemask and that was a personal foul. THey sure were watching that closely. But 5 blatant hits to the head and one instance where a guy hit him in the helmet with his arm and only one of those gets called???? Not to mention the Panthers had almost 90 yards in penalties compared to 22 for Denver???
    Wow. Sad. SMH

  84. armoderate says: Sep 9, 2016 1:24 PM

    The hit by Stewart should be fined. The hit by Miller I think will probably be a fine too, but I don’t think it was intentional because there was chaos with offensive and defensive line players when he did his. As far as the other head shots, I saw a 250 pound QB morph into a runner and hitting them anywhere is legal under the rules. You can complain all you want, but the reality is that if he doesn’t start acting like a QB rather than a fullback his career is going to end soon. Cam needs to get over the Superman complex and know when it’s time to throw it away or take the sack. And let us not forget that the Panthers played Denver straight up and could have won the game if it wasn’t a missed field goal that happen because of an error with a high snap.

  85. thebirdofprey says: Sep 9, 2016 1:25 PM

    Stewart also dove at the back of Benjamin’s knees as he was coming down making a catch. It was probably even worse than the shot he took out Gronk’s knee with the other year. That kinda hit reminds me of what the Saints got hammered for

    Over half of those head shots were dirty. Cam needs to live with the ones he is scrambling outside of the box as a running back. Either that are slide feet first like other QBs that project themselves and want to make it through the year.

  86. todoubled says: Sep 9, 2016 1:27 PM

    I see a bunch of whiners on this site complaining about the Cam taking cheap shots. One of those was blatant on Brandon Marshall but the others were the result of physics and football. How many of you are just trolling this article b/c your team hasn’t played yet? This will happen all season long and you better believe your team will do the same thing. I just hope it doesn’t happen to my guy Siemian.

  87. Jeff says: Sep 9, 2016 1:29 PM

    do what they do in college, disqualify players for targeting, it would put an end to the bit real quick

  88. metalman5150 says: Sep 9, 2016 1:29 PM

    It must be really hard for some people to hold their tongues and not succumb to the childish taunts that racism, social activism and political correctness promotes.

  89. weegiethompson says: Sep 9, 2016 1:29 PM

    In no way was that a cheap shot and 90% of the ones called in all games arent either. Getting hit in the head is a part of football sometimes. I have no problem with heavy fines if in fact the hit was blatant, but look at the replay and determine that. If the replays shows blatant then fine them big time. But the refs ruin good defensive stands when they make these crappy calls. The call was BS. He left his feet cause there was a guy on the ground in front of him. He turned to put his shoulder forward. Ridiculous to think it was cheap. How does anyone run with out their he forward? how you bend down to tackle and not have your head there. Stupid interpretations of the rules. The people that think it was cheap have never played football or any sport for that matter

  90. raider8er says: Sep 9, 2016 1:31 PM

    Watching last night and those head shots made me cringe. First game of the season and it’s this ugly.

    This league, this sport will not be around in 10 years if this kind of play is not reigned in.

    The NFL has got to change the rules. Maybe penalty boxes or something equivalent.

  91. surfinbird1 says: Sep 9, 2016 1:33 PM

    Horse face is on the rules committee now…….too funny.
    Btw: The Panthers need to get a coach with some stones. ” I’m not gonna yell at the officials ” Really. Must be nice to know he has your back.

  92. iamedreed says: Sep 9, 2016 1:35 PM

    don’t run your quarterback 10+ times in a game and complain about the number of hits he is taking

  93. matterson20 says: Sep 9, 2016 1:39 PM

    One set of rules for the Broncos, another set of rules for the rest of the league. That was made clear last night. Goodell’s NFL in action.

  94. truths4all says: Sep 9, 2016 1:40 PM

    Why were there no rah-rah crying the blues stories when Tarkenton, Staubach, and other running QBs taking the same hits?

    Why is there such a weenie protection mentality for a running QB who leaves the pocket?

    If a QB leaves the pocket, then he is legal to hit before he slides. If the QB does not want to get hit, then his team needs to protect him better in the pocket, he needs to pass better, and he should refrain from running downfield out of the pocket.

    This is still NFL football and it needs not be made into powderpuff football as the story pushes.

  95. stealthjunk says: Sep 9, 2016 1:44 PM

    captainspangled says:
    Sep 9, 2016 11:46 AM
    I’ve gotta sat, I woke up this morning with a bit of shame at being a Broncos fan. Coach Kubial needs to get this house in order. There were some definite cheap shots out there and they represented us horribly. Embarrassing.
    =================

    Nice try, but it’s pretty clear from all your past posts that you’re a Panthers fan. How pathetic do you have to be to fake being a fan of a different team on an internet message board?

  96. immafubared says: Sep 9, 2016 1:45 PM

    surfinbird1 says:
    Sep 9, 2016 1:33 PM
    Horse face is on the rules committee now…….too funny.
    Btw: The Panthers need to get a coach with some stones. ” I’m not gonna yell at the officials ” Really. Must be nice to know he has your back.

    Coach? He is a former football player trying to be a coach. Calling a running play with 1:46 left on the clock, no time outs and your on the opponents 30? I agree with zimmer, a coach should never call a time out when on defense. It means your not prepared. Apparently he didnt get that memo

  97. kevpft says: Sep 9, 2016 1:46 PM

    It was great to see Siemian turn out okay in his first game, but the Broncos defense left a really bad taste for the dirty way they played.

    It’s not worth winning the game that way, guys. Next time it could be you on the end of a cheap shot.

    A few suggestions: 1) Make personal fouls not able to be offset by anything other than another personal foul; 2) Make suspensions possible (or likely) for dirty hits reviewed after the game; 3) Refs really need to call things tighter when it comes to head shots. When in doubt, err on the side of calling lots of 15-yard penalties, that will help calm things down.

  98. Hitdog18 says: Sep 9, 2016 1:47 PM

    where are all the trolls who said Brady should shut up and take his medicine? it doesn’t matter what he ‘thought’ he lead with, Newton was in the pocket and you took a cheap shot. this punk needs to shut up and eat the fine and be thankful he’s not suspended a game an losing a paycheck

  99. mmack66 says: Sep 9, 2016 1:54 PM

    stealthjunk says:
    Sep 9, 2016 1:44 PM

    How pathetic do you have to be to fake being a fan of a different team on an internet message board?
    ——————————-

    Really pathetic, and there’s more than a few of them around here.

    That superpatriotsfan/patsfan4lifesbchamps guy really takes the cake, though.

  100. djvh2 says: Sep 9, 2016 1:55 PM

    Newton caused those. By lowering his head at the last instant he caused helmet to helmet contact. Those would’ve been good chest tackles if he had remained upright.

  101. puhleezho says: Sep 9, 2016 1:58 PM

    If he was going to stand there and try to throw it away over taking a sack then he gets hit. If he throws it away earlier or goes down, there is no hit. he put himself in that position.

  102. imodan says: Sep 9, 2016 2:01 PM

    oldcracker says:
    Sep 9, 2016 1:08 PM
    LoL – Waa, waa, waa. Poor little Panther fans.

    Cam should just thank God that he didn’t play real football, circa 40’s – 60’s. Just put a red jersey on him.
    ——————————————————————-
    The biggest lineman on the 67 Packers weighed 255, the smallest 230. Cam Newton is 6’5″ 245. He’d have been an olineman then and not making obscene money. So lucky yes, but I think he would have dominated easily. There is NO comparison between the size and athleticism of today’s players and those from that era. I too am old and know it’s no contest.

  103. justsayin70 says: Sep 9, 2016 2:04 PM

    Cam’s antics make him a larger target than necessary. I don’t condone the questionable hits, but the guy is a punk and deserves a beatdown.

  104. jags2daship says: Sep 9, 2016 2:06 PM

    Appeal denied pay up fool

  105. corky2141 says: Sep 9, 2016 2:08 PM

    Two telling statements, 1 by each player.
    1. ” we tried to put a helmet or shoulder pads on him,” Broncos safety T.J. Ward said.
    Stating you were trying to “put a helmet” on a player doesn’t sound good in this day & age of football (even though it was a common term only 10 or so years ago).
    It also showed it was a planned tactic.

    2. “so I was unsure if he was a passer or if he was going to run. I just took the shot, man.” – Stewart
    The “just took a shot” makes it seem like they were told to go for the big hit, penalty or big play be damned.

    For some, myself included, physical play IS football. But the NFL doesn’t want that, so the lack of calls, followed by their answers is probably going to lead to a long explanation by Blandino that’s not going to say a whole lot.

  106. oddte says: Sep 9, 2016 2:08 PM

    snowdood163 says:
    Sep 9, 2016 12:48 PM
    oddte says:
    Sep 9, 2016 12:23 PM
    The officials sure seemed eager to give Denver that last touchdown. Didn’t look to me like they ever converted on that fourth down but the refs gave them a generous spot twice.

    If you don’t think the 4th down was a conversion, you’re either blind, completely stupid, a panthers homer, or some combination of the three.

    __

    Nah, watch it again, forward progress was stopped before the spot. Can you at least admit they made a terrible spot on the previous play that was challenged and overruled?

  107. megnailsit says: Sep 9, 2016 2:12 PM

    Guess Talib has to behave for now while he’s being investigated. He’s being investigated, right?

  108. rcali says: Sep 9, 2016 2:21 PM

    I’m going to protest violence in the NFL by not standing for the Line-Up Introductions!

  109. johnniemayes says: Sep 9, 2016 2:22 PM

    People are going to have to accept if your QB scrambles a lot then he’s not going to get the benefit of the call like a committed pocket passer is. That’s the tradeoff for having a mobile QB threat.

  110. stickyicky97 says: Sep 9, 2016 2:26 PM

    “A player in a defenseless position, which for a quarterback means he is in the pocket, cannot be hit in the head or neck area by an opponent’s helmet or face mask at any time, per Rule 12, Section 2, Article 7(b) of the NFL rule book. It’s considered unnecessary roughness or roughing the passer”

    This means anytime Cam or any other QB is in the pocket, if a defender even accidentally hits them in the head, or neck, it’s a penalty. It doesn’t matter if it’s just a graze. However, when a QB is out of the pocket, he is subject to regular player rules. This means incidental hits to the head or neck areas are allowed, but you still cannot spear any player like Stewart did. With Stewart, Miller, Talib, and Marshall, Denver could possibly be the dirtiest team in the NFL now. Karma’s coming for you guys.

  111. realfootballfan says: Sep 9, 2016 2:28 PM

    All you need to know about how dirty this team is how they’ve transformed from a good defense to great. They didn’t add some amazing talent unless you want to say Talib is, which all of the rest of us would laugh at you about. Last year, they crossed a line in order to gain an edge. Seattle doesn’t play like that. Arizona doesn’t play like that. The Panthers don’t play like that. The Jets don’t play like that. It’s your team and Cincy, but I guess it’s okay because you won the Super Bowl. Rationalize it all you want with stuff about if this was 1988. If it was 1988, a lot of stuff would be different (and not for the best, like hitting people in the head was ever a good thing when you see how many of those players turned out in retrospect), but the Broncos added playing dirty to their game plan to take the next step to be elite. Sorry, but I don’t respect that. If you were here crying about Greg Williams, this is plain as day to see.

  112. helldog33 says: Sep 9, 2016 2:30 PM

    The refs let Cam get headhunted and tried to spot the Broncos a freebie 1st down, but at least they called Trai Turner for his pogo stick imitation. Fair is fair. Good thing Horseteeth is on the competition committee.

  113. abninf says: Sep 9, 2016 2:38 PM

    Look at all these snivelers. The wussification of society continues……

  114. metalman5150 says: Sep 9, 2016 2:39 PM

    ~Interesting how the Panthers score a TD and they call a personal foul on Trai Turner for clapping and said it was taunting.

    Dude should have joined the rest of the panthers inside of the end zone to celebrate WITH his teammates. Instead he choose to jump up and down, one on one, with the back of of a defender, outside of the end zone.

    Should be flagged, all day and everyday.

  115. Mo Pro Babble says: Sep 9, 2016 2:47 PM

    Awful lot of defensive Bronco fans today. They also need to read the rule book. Players get flagged for hits to QB heads even when they lower their head. Newton’s rep as a runner has no bearing.

    You can complain it’s a bad rule but it’s a rule. So if you think #54 shouldn’t be fined for launching (go ahead and check the replay if you don’t agree) what you’re saying is that Broncos deserve special rules.

    I watched with a NYG and DAL fan last night. Both despise Cam but both walked away happy but agreeing this was another bag job by the refs. It’s too bad CO fans are so fragile & sensitive to the point where they want to alter reality.

  116. bullcharger says: Sep 9, 2016 2:51 PM

    Newton got them in a position to win. 50 yard kick in Denver is nothing. They blew the game or all the story lines would be different. They hit Newton but they didn’t stop him from getting into a position to win.

  117. leef2020 says: Sep 9, 2016 2:57 PM

    Black QB’s heads matter.

    Time for the NFL to get on board.

  118. mattbilleauthor says: Sep 9, 2016 2:58 PM

    I know people are breaking down the key plays a hundred different ways, but as a guy who’s loved watching good, tough, hard-hitting football for better than 40 years now (even if whatever my Dolphins have been doing lately in no way qualifies as “football”), those helmet hits really made me cringe. I was amazed Newton got up. The Broncos sure looked like they were trying to put him in the hospital.

  119. db4life says: Sep 9, 2016 3:02 PM

    The Panthers also got a gift call on the 4th and 21 play. Chris Harris did grab Kelvins face mask but Kelvin had a hold of Chris’s first. Should of been a no call.

  120. hugeheavywoman says: Sep 9, 2016 3:07 PM

    Maybe Cam shouldn’t be allowed on the same field with Denver. It seems he cant handle the heat.

  121. azjhawk90 says: Sep 9, 2016 3:11 PM

    BRONCOS!!!!!! If cammy and the kitty kats don’t like getting hit, play golf. Other wise shut your pie hole and enjoy the beatdown again. Don’t worry you don’t have to play the SUPERBOWL CHAMPION DENVER BRONCOS

  122. taintedsaints2009 says: Sep 9, 2016 3:11 PM

    in the superbowl, the game changing play was the von miller strip sack that resulted in a touchdown. That was a blatant helmet to helmet hit that not only would negate the touchdown but would have resulted in a panthers 1st down. Huge blown call. changed the entire game.

    Similar thing happened yesterday. Von Miller goes helmet to helmet on Cam Newton and there was no call. it was not even close! even Collinsworth pointed it out.

    Sorry, but the Broncos have gotten away with a lot of obvious personal fouls and frankly are one of the luckier teams in the NFL right now.

  123. azjhawk90 says: Sep 9, 2016 3:12 PM

    BRONCOS!!!!!! If cammy and the kitty kats don’t like getting hit, play golf. Other wise shut your pie hole and enjoy the beatdown again. Don’t worry you don’t have to play the SUPERBOWL CHAMPION DENVER BRONCOS again this season🙂

  124. taeh324 says: Sep 9, 2016 3:13 PM

    I call bullsh*t on the he’s a running quarterback. You cannot launch and target the head area of any player. It was multiple times that Broncos defenders led with their heads

  125. YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob says: Sep 9, 2016 3:14 PM

    politiciansareallthesame says:
    Sep 9, 2016 11:46 AM

    Some of those were blatant shots. I understand if the NFL would rig the game for their golden boy, Tom Brady.. but the Broncos?
    ————————————————-

    ????????????……. Oh yeah, the league loves Brady and the Patriots. You lost any cred you may have had.

  126. patsfan112 says: Sep 9, 2016 3:25 PM

    This is how the Broncos win football games. They make cheap hits trying to knock out opponents. They did this to Brady in last season’s AFC game too. They are a dirty, dirty team and worst of all they get away with it.

  127. nflfan1 says: Sep 9, 2016 3:37 PM

    Broncos are one of the dirtier defenses in league. I don’t believe it’s the head coach as much as the defensive coordinator but as the head coach he is still responsible.

  128. jjfootball says: Sep 9, 2016 3:40 PM

    How come these Bronco’s idiots can hit QB’s in the head, and everyone else gets a flag?

  129. mmack66 says: Sep 9, 2016 3:53 PM

    hugeheavywoman says:
    Sep 9, 2016 3:07 PM

    Maybe Cam shouldn’t be allowed on the same field with Denver. It seems he cant handle the heat.
    ———————-

    You should have watched the game, because he handled it just fine.

  130. thegreatgabbert says: Sep 9, 2016 3:53 PM

    For those who minimize the consequences of repeated blows to the head, brain damage may be one explanation for Newt showing up in to the post game presser dressed as a Hotel Doorman. It’s not a laughing matter.

  131. silvernblackpride says: Sep 9, 2016 3:55 PM

    Do the ref’s bet on the games……….sad indeed !!!

    Lead with your helmet and bet with your wallet!!!

  132. mmack66 says: Sep 9, 2016 3:55 PM

    jjfootball says:
    Sep 9, 2016 3:40 PM

    How come these Bronco’s idiots can hit QB’s in the head, and everyone else gets a flag?
    ———————–

    Because they are Goodell’s second favorite team, right behind the Jets.

  133. myeaglescantwin says: Sep 9, 2016 4:26 PM

    Cam ducked into the head shot.

    it’s football.
    quit being sissies

  134. saundersspencer2 says: Sep 9, 2016 4:35 PM

    Panther fan here, stop calling Cam a baby, he got drilled over and over and didn’t whine about it, all QB’s who get hit are going to say something to the refs. Also, he got his team into FG range and Gano missed, that’s the way it goes. Also, Broncos D played dirty, but the REFS LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT. You are going to keep doing it until you get caught. A few of those hit were incidental, Miller, for example. Marshall and Stewart looked more intentional. The real issue is the NFL is not consistent with the officiating. It’s game one, week one, so this stuff will get ironed out. My buddies watched the game with me last night, all cowboy fans who hate Cam and were amazed at what Denver was getting away with. Like Richard Sherman said “It’s not cheating if you don’t get caught.” Looking forward to the home opener next weekend, we’re proud of our Panthers.

    Keep Pounding

  135. patsfan4lifesbchamps says: Sep 9, 2016 4:47 PM

    Elway should have kept Osweiler and the Broncos would not have to rely so much on dirty hits from the defense in order to win games. Hopefully Elway learns a lesson after he losses a draft pick and his players get fined.

  136. toybkshr says: Sep 9, 2016 4:56 PM

    Well fans be prepared for longer games Sun & Mon as a lot of roughing penalties will be called. The one thing that’s been consistent over the last few years is the league over-reacting to any headline generating action/circumstance.

  137. morbidtaint says: Sep 9, 2016 5:22 PM

    Keep reading “if you dont like getting hit you shouldn’t act like a runningback” as if helmet to helmet is legal on runningbacks. Broncos are a dirty team, I look forward to one of them getting injured on a dirty play and broncos fans crying about it. No one cares, you’ll deserve it.

  138. really410 says: Sep 10, 2016 6:04 PM

    I really don’t like either team it was a pretty good game . The ones who should be fined are the referees they were terrible . Coach kubiak is a way better coach than rivera .

  139. fmc651 says: Sep 11, 2016 5:10 PM

    That is his right under due process but he will lose. He clearly went high and hit helmet to helmet.

  140. peytonmanningshghconnection says: Sep 11, 2016 7:01 PM

    All I can say is watch the crybaby Donkey fans whine when other teams start taking out Miller, Stewart, Talib, and Ward’s knees in retaliation to the constant cheap shots and late hits the dirtiest team in the NFL take. Oh and how in the heck was Talib even allowed to suit up after shooting himself in the leg with an unregistered gun inside a bar? I guess that kind of punishment is only reserved for Plaxico Burress. Half this Donkey team will be wearing prison orange 10 years after they are out of the NFL.

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