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Josh McCown fired up by people suggesting Browns should tank

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With the Browns at 0-1 after an ugly opening loss, and with starting quarterback Robert Griffin III on injured reserve, and with all the future draft picks the team has stockpiled, should they just tank this season?

Josh McCown, now the starting quarterback with Griffin out, knows people are suggesting that. But he’s offended by it and he says every single player on the team is focused on beating the Ravens on Sunday and winning beyond that.

“For us to just sit back and say, ‘Yeah, this is the year that we’re gonna tank’ and all that, for a player that’s not our mindset at all and that’s not our expectation, and it fires me up when people say that,” McCown said today on PFT Live. “It fires me up and makes this task even greater. We embrace the opportunity to go out there and maybe do something that people don’t think we can do.”

McCown said the older players on the team are showing the younger players the right way to compete, and that’s about preparing to win now, not preparing to win in 2017 and beyond.

“For me and the other veterans on this team, a Hall of Famer like Joe Thomas, that can’t and won’t be the mindset,” McCown said. “Our mindset is to compete and play to win football games. The rest of that is down the road, but our mindset is to compete.”

The Browns don’t look like a team that will be very competitive, but McCown is looking to surprise people this year, not confirm that they’re playing for next year.

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  1. MichaelEdits says: Sep 13, 2016 9:05 AM

    They’ve already shown a remarkably consistent ability to lose without tanking, so it should all sort itself out.

  2. newmancave2016 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:06 AM

    Now you’ve done it. You’ve upset Josh McCown.

  3. pftthoughtpolicemostwanted says: Sep 13, 2016 9:07 AM

    I can’t be the only one thinking the season might be saved to a degree since RGIII went down…

  4. mkbane says: Sep 13, 2016 9:07 AM

    The Browns don’t have to tank, they are going to lose even if they try.

  5. myspaceyourface says: Sep 13, 2016 9:11 AM

    Maybe it’s just me but I always thought that McCown played well for the Browns, considering RG3 was their 26th failed attempt at a QB since they returned to Cleveland.

  6. siriusred67 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:11 AM

    They won’t need to try to tank. Now that McCown is their starting QB, they’re going to tank regardless. This is the same bad QB who helped the Buccaneers get the #1 overall pick and the Browns get the #2 overall pick. If he thinks he’s going to get the Browns out of picking in the top-10, then he’s delusional.

  7. officialgame says: Sep 13, 2016 9:12 AM

    The Browns aren’t good enough to tank, they just need to be themselves and it will all work out.

  8. shadywarrior says: Sep 13, 2016 9:12 AM

    Tanking when you’re already a bad team is a terrible idea. The Colts pulled off the tank job for the Manning-Luck switch-a-roo, but they had an otherwise serviceable team. Not great, but not terrible. But when you’re a perennial basement dweller, put 2-and-2 together. You can’t afford to put together a team of top 5-10 draft picks. That’s a major reason why the Pats have been so successful the last 15 years, their shrewd roster management. In a physical game like football, injuries happen, so you need depth. Better to have a squad of well-coached B-grade players with well-coached Cs backing them up, than to have Grade A players backed up by Ds when they inevitably get hurt. Plus you have to figure out how all these guys will work together as a unit, not just individual skill sets. Not to mention that you’re caught with your pants down if your “can’t miss” top pick ends up busting, at a high price tag. Value, value, value. Find good players in later draft slots for less money and build a team. Unfortunately for a lot of these sad-sack teams, team ownership feels like they need to make a big splash with a big name to generate interest in the team and sell tickets, but they just perpetuate the cycle of failure by doing so.

  9. 700levelvet says: Sep 13, 2016 9:13 AM

    Did he just compare himself to Joe Thomas? Josh McCown?

  10. whatchutalkinabouthillis says: Sep 13, 2016 9:13 AM

    Has there ever been a player as good as Joe Thomas who’s team has never won anything their whole career?

  11. rufio1984 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:13 AM


  12. famundacheese says: Sep 13, 2016 9:14 AM

    They have no choice. They are really bad.

  13. cardinealsfan20 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:15 AM

    There is a difference between playing young guys and “tanking”. Cleveland has a lot of players that need time to develop. They seem to finally be on the right track.

  14. cymbaline6 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:18 AM

    McCown is one of the easiest players in the league to root for. Hope he has success (when he’s not playing my Bengals).

  15. dbosdad says: Sep 13, 2016 9:21 AM

    Trust me Josh, tank!

  16. madmax80 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:22 AM

    I can’t even imagine what it would look like if the Browns were actually trying to lose.

  17. TB12RALLYCRY says: Sep 13, 2016 9:22 AM

    Good now throw the ball to Barnidge my fantasy tight end then………

  18. r502 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:23 AM

    The only surprise McCown could produce would be having the Browns actually win a game.
    Billick is right, there may not be a win on that schedule.

  19. unbridledsexy says: Sep 13, 2016 9:24 AM

    Good for McCowan. That’s the way it’s supposed to be. That’s what people in Cleveland deserve.

  20. doe22us says: Sep 13, 2016 9:26 AM

    Fact is that the Browns wont do much this season, but anyone that suggest that they should tank hasnt played any competitive sports whatsoever. They are paid to compete and besides the games need to be played. If you dont think so ask Arizona who thought they had a win in the bag before playing the Pats.

  21. bitw44 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:27 AM

    I feel for Joe Thomas

  22. dickshotdogs says: Sep 13, 2016 9:28 AM

    Hey, at least we learned last night in the second game that The Brown’s aren’t the worst team in football. Seriously.

  23. kcchefs58 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:30 AM

    They’ll try and still tank.

  24. amaf21 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:30 AM

    What’s tanking going to do other than get them another first round pick to squander.

  25. clebrownsfan11 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:30 AM

    Josh Mcown is one of the truly classy individuals in the NFL. I wish him the best.

  26. xinellum says: Sep 13, 2016 9:31 AM

    I don’t think they need a conscious effort to tank, I think if they just play as normal it will have the same results. Cleveland is rebuilding and hopefully management allows this staff to rebuild the team instead of the typical one and done coaching staffs they normally have.

  27. eagleswin says: Sep 13, 2016 9:32 AM

    If Josh doesn’t think the “tank” started during the offseason, he is dumber than a bag of rocks.

    This roster has the least amount of talent in the league, including QB (exception being the Rams).

    Griffin wasn’t brought in to win, he was brought in to sell tickets and jersey’s while losing.

    This is similar to the team from Major League I except this lovable cast of misfits isn’t going to have a Hollywood ending.

  28. laces out says: Sep 13, 2016 9:32 AM

    Trust the Process! sorry, wrong sport

  29. mattamp says: Sep 13, 2016 9:35 AM

    They don’t have to tank. They’re the Browns.

  30. icebergsimpson says: Sep 13, 2016 9:35 AM

    If there’s one thing Josh McCown knows how to do it’s how to tank a season. The city of Tampa is still thanking you!

  31. NoobTubeTV says: Sep 13, 2016 9:36 AM

    15 other teams lost in in week 1.
    The Browns have a division game at home this weekend.

    The only people giving up are in other cities.

    Cleveland doesn’t quit.

  32. In Teddy We Trust says: Sep 13, 2016 9:36 AM

    I have news for you people suggesting the Browns should tank to get the first pick. They don’t have to try; it will happen organically.

  33. dg0122 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:37 AM

    How will you be able to tell if they’re tanking?

  34. mazenblue says: Sep 13, 2016 9:37 AM

    RG3 is a smart qb. Very intelligent. People will speak highly of him.

  35. katientony says: Sep 13, 2016 9:37 AM

    My God, Cleveland has terrible luck. Oh well, based on the numbers from RG3 I saw maybe McCown should have been the starter all along…

  36. orivar says: Sep 13, 2016 9:39 AM

    Please don’t bring up ‘the process’. That’s one area where even the Browns would be better.

  37. joetoronto says: Sep 13, 2016 9:39 AM

    It’s better than having a great regular season and then losing the first playoff game every year.

  38. sidepull says: Sep 13, 2016 9:41 AM

    Like they actually have to plan to tank the season. It will happen without any planning. Dont worry you’ll get your draft pick.

  39. thenyolive says: Sep 13, 2016 9:42 AM

    If the Colts can tank a season without any concern by the league, why should the outcome be different for anyone else?

  40. spungy says: Sep 13, 2016 9:47 AM

    And people say there are no more good factory jobs in the USA.

  41. jabbatheputter says: Sep 13, 2016 9:51 AM

    Josh McCown obviously is the NFL’s version of Bruce Banner. Do not get him upset. Maybe he should wear green cleats.

  42. jag1959 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:51 AM

    They don’t have to tank to get the number 1 pick, that roster can play it’s heart out and they will still get it.

  43. jasons81 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:53 AM

    I’m just here for the comments…

    … and they have not disappointed

  44. jwcarlson says: Sep 13, 2016 9:55 AM

    Josh McCown pretty well has a dream job except for he’ll be getting pounded on for several games. Almost $4.5M this year, 37 years old, and NO ONE expects jack diddle out of him.

    He’s like a really highly paid weatherman.

  45. heymister24 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:55 AM

    The Browns should have their GM phone down to the sideline with tips, that might help.

  46. heymister24 says: Sep 13, 2016 9:57 AM

    I just saw a guy on a park bench laughing his azze off, it was Mike Pettine.

  47. saveusterrelldavis says: Sep 13, 2016 10:01 AM

    RELEASE MAXIMUM BARNIDGE! With RG3 in there he wasn’t gonna catch a ball all season

  48. tonebones says: Sep 13, 2016 10:05 AM

    I don’t think anyone in the Browns’ front office is using the word “tank”, but with all those Harvard guys around, there’s no way they believed RG3 was going to make it through a season. I think the plan was to bring in a QB year two. They have enough draft picks, and their draft philosophy has more to do with numbers than evaluating talent. I can’t argue with that. A lot of good QBs weren’t really high picks. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo. Or you can trade for former #1’s like Carson Palmer, Peyton Manning, Sam Bradford. I think Hue Jackson knows what he’s doing. I just hope Haslam is on board, or Hue and the rest won’t be around to finish what they started.

  49. vegasdestroyer says: Sep 13, 2016 10:07 AM

    As pathetic as they look the Browns may have to tank. Titans hold the Rams’ No. 1 2017 pick. You did watch the Rams play yesterday, right?

  50. newjerseygiants says: Sep 13, 2016 10:09 AM

    The Browns tank every year. What makes this year any different?

  51. 6ball says: Sep 13, 2016 10:09 AM

    Jimmy Garopollo will be available for the entire league very shortly. The Browns have draft choices. The Patriots love draft choices.
    Would Cleveland be interested based upon his debut performance vs Arizona?

  52. spotsdad says: Sep 13, 2016 10:10 AM

    Never could this guy play for the Indy Colts.

  53. toldlikeitis says: Sep 13, 2016 10:11 AM

    It is laughable to think that Griffin was the best option for them at QB in the first place. So many in the media, fans and even coaches are clinging to some hope that he is going to live up to the hype everyone bestowed upon him coming leading up to the 2012 draft. Remember when people actually had him as a better player than Luck – one of the most utterly ridiculous thoughts ever when it comes to football. Griffin is done – he sucks. McCown is the better option.

  54. lukedunphysscienceproject says: Sep 13, 2016 10:12 AM

    Um, Josh. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the fact that you are on the roster as the #2 (now #1) QB kinda proves that winning was not high on the Browns agenda this season.

  55. weepingjebus says: Sep 13, 2016 10:14 AM

    Suck for Luck II. That way you can get him when the Colts release him.

  56. mmack66 says: Sep 13, 2016 10:17 AM

    Note to Josh:

    Try to not helicopter into the endzone this season.

  57. bleedgreenphilly says: Sep 13, 2016 10:19 AM

    The Browns best QB plays WR. No need to tank. They are bad enough to lose even if they try. On the plus side, with all those draft picks, they’ll be able to pass on lots of promising young QB’s in the future too.

  58. losangelesbillsofbuffalo says: Sep 13, 2016 10:19 AM

    The effects of RGIII’s injury are going to be comparable to the Jets losing Geno last year. Now, I’m NOT saying the Browns will be going ANYWHERE close to 10-6, but what I am saying is that they will be a better offense with McCown than they were with RGIII.

  59. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Sep 13, 2016 10:22 AM

    DeFawn for DeShaun just doesn’t have the same ring to it as Suck for Luck.

  60. goodellisagoner says: Sep 13, 2016 10:24 AM

    Love McCown!!!!

  61. bostonisthebestandyouallsukk says: Sep 13, 2016 10:34 AM

    It’s goddell’s fault!!

  62. liftheavyorliftheavy says: Sep 13, 2016 10:38 AM

    whatchutalkinabouthillis says:
    Sep 13, 2016 9:13 AM

    Has there ever been a player as good as Joe Thomas who’s team has never won anything their whole career?


    There’s a pretty good list that never won the big one but the Juice, Barry and Butkus rarely (if ever) even sniffed the playoffs. Their teams were perennial non-contenders.

  63. happy1114 says: Sep 13, 2016 10:39 AM

    Browns will be better with McCown and would have won the job in a fair competition and most of team knows it…..they will still be a bad FB team cuz they wont be able to stop anybody on defense….

  64. trainwrecksryan says: Sep 13, 2016 10:41 AM

    The Browns should not tank.

    The Bills, however…they should tank.

  65. bucsorbust says: Sep 13, 2016 11:18 AM

    Ahem. I have two words for a Josh McCown led team tanking: 1. Jameis. 2. Winston. The Bucs didn’t try to tank in 2014 (allegedly) with Josh at the helm, but hey, they didn’t have to. Nothing against Josh…very professional preparer and he knows the plan going into every game. He just has never been able to execute, never able to close the deal as a starting QB; he’s a very solid backup QB. That said, I have heard Congress is passing legislation to ensure Cleveland is prohibited, by law, from EVER drafting another QB.

  66. danfromindy says: Sep 13, 2016 11:19 AM

    If you all think the Colts tanked a season to get Luck, then you weren’t paying attention. When Manning was hurt they went out and paid (way to much) Collins who was the only reasonable FA out there to replace him. They knew Painter wasn’t good or they would have gone out and found a back up to him. Once Collins went down, there was no other options to pick up. It just showed how horrible our front office is at building a team. Without #18, the Colts during those years was a 500 team (at best). Showed again last weekend that they still don’t know what they are doing. No team should lose after putting up 35 points, but our Defense is HORRIBLE and always has been!

  67. gonakgod says: Sep 13, 2016 11:24 AM

    Is it really wise to tank every season???? How many top 3 picks are enough

  68. unnamedxsource says: Sep 13, 2016 11:41 AM

    The Browns don’t have to ‘tank’ the season. They just need to keep doing what they’ve always done. To ‘tank’ a season implies the betrayal of high expectations of which, in this case, there are none…

  69. simplec72 says: Sep 13, 2016 11:42 AM

    “and that’s about preparing to win now, not preparing to win in 2017 and beyond”. So then why did your organization stockpile future picks instead of an immediate upgrade now?

  70. ChickenTurkeySaurus says: Sep 13, 2016 11:43 AM

    McCown has to be a step up from their subpar performance last week.

  71. sgrvn329 says: Sep 13, 2016 11:45 AM

    Most of these negative comments are from people who have probably never in their plain miserable lives accomplish anything. And one football game does not make a season. This is a young team on both sides of the football. I think the offense has shown an ability to be a big play offense but these are young players and it will be growing pains. I feel for Robert because he was making a lot of progress, the injury was unfortunate but there was not way for him to avoid a player blocked out of bounds by this own teammate. Robert will be back stronger than ever, this young man wants to be great, I believe he will succeed. People have to understand that injury can happen in the NFL without someone even being touched. But its sad when so called fans of the game are happy or make light of any player being injured.

  72. 6ball says: Sep 13, 2016 11:45 AM


    One of the worst moves Griggy made was passing on DT Malcolm Brown in last year’s draft and letting him fall to the Patriots. The kid can play.

    The Belichick philosophy : ” If you don’t have an offensive (defensive) line, then you don’t have an offense (defense).

    The Griggy philosophy : another round of mini-WRs

  73. kennylc2015 says: Sep 13, 2016 11:50 AM

    The talk of “tanking” in the NFL is ridiculous. First, the players are going to go all out because the guy drafted at #1 may take YOUR job. Second, the coach will not “tank” because in an overwhelming number of cases, the team that ‘earns’ the #1 pick usually dumps the coach that got them there.

  74. djp141 says: Sep 13, 2016 11:54 AM

    Players don’t tank, organizations do.

  75. dumbpollack says: Sep 13, 2016 11:56 AM

    I knew this year was a bust and even though I thought RG3 was nothing special I was ok with it. Problem for me was skipping on Wenz. His performance yesterday has to have that front office squirming.

  76. sjd1234 says: Sep 13, 2016 11:56 AM

    We suck. but I love McCown.

  77. steves11 says: Sep 13, 2016 11:59 AM

    This Browns team is a serious threat to go 0-16.

  78. purplekoolaid1 says: Sep 13, 2016 12:06 PM

    The people who think teams tank to get high draft picks have most likely never played any organized competitive sports in their lives. I’m too old to play professionally, but even in rec leagues I play to win. And of course, I don’t get paid.

    These guys are getting paid and playing in an ultra-competitive league. There is no way players can risk tanking anything. There are plenty of guys below them that are ready to take over if they tank. Same for coaches.

  79. gromit45 says: Sep 13, 2016 12:12 PM

    Honestly it’s almost impossible to distinguish between the Brown’s regular play and tanking.

  80. draculalambert says: Sep 13, 2016 12:17 PM

    As a steeler fan I find this rather amusing

  81. a1b24312 says: Sep 13, 2016 12:17 PM

    Can Sam Hinkie do NFL GMing? If so, get him on the line.

  82. mrfrostyj says: Sep 13, 2016 12:19 PM

    Shows the lack of intelligence of the average football fan to believe that “tanking” is a sound strategy. The thought process is then they can get the top QB off the board which will magically fix the team and make them automatic winners.

    Ask the Titans, Rams, Raiders, Chargers and pretty much every other team in this Millennium how well getting the top QB off the board did for them. College football is it’s own thing now so the idea of getting guys NFL ready is no longer even on the minds of most college programs. Andrew Luck was supposed to be the greatest QB to come out in a generation and he can barely read NFL defenses and has struggled the majority of his career vs any team with an average defense.

    The best teams in the NFL are the teams with stellar coaching and patient owners. NFL games are won on the strategy and development front now since there is no such thing as “NFL ready” draft picks anymore. Clevelands issues are not and have never been who they’re bringing on the team or drafting. They’re actually good at that (yes, even Manziel was good on the field, he just wasn’t very mature off of it). It’s that they have no leadership since their impatient owners blow up the team nearly every year. That’s the difference between the Browns who are fighting for relevancy every year and the Patriots who fight for playoff spots even if Belichick puts his grandmother in at QB. Lock the Browns owner in his mansion for a few years and let Hugh Jackson and the Harvard guys build the team their way and most importantly get to play that strategy out and Cleveland will be one of the top teams in the NFL in a few years. Otherwise they’re just an expansion team doing expansion drafts every year trying to rebuild for a new front office.

    With that being said, Browns offense isn’t their problem. It’s the side of the ball that had a rookie score 30 on them that is the issue. Ravens this week unfortunately for them see the QB that broke a franchise passing record against them last season.

  83. edavidberg says: Sep 13, 2016 12:21 PM

    The Browns don’t have to try to tank, that’s just what they do.

  84. edavidberg says: Sep 13, 2016 12:22 PM

    McCown is better than RGIII anyway. He was shockingly bad on Sunday.

  85. milehighmagik7 says: Sep 13, 2016 12:24 PM

    Good for you Josh. You should have been the starter from the start. No one expected RGIII to stay healthy. I really hope the Browns xan get back to being a playoff team. As a Bronco fan going into that stadium with those fans were memorable. When the Browns get good again the pound is a tough place to play and I hope it gets back to that sooner rather then later

  86. TheDPR says: Sep 13, 2016 12:27 PM

    McCown is an upgrade. The Browns are bad, sure, but they’re not Rams bad, and they don’t have as bad a coach as the Chargers, Colts, or Lions.

    If they’re patient with Hue Jackson they could win 2 or 3 games this year and 6 or 7 next.

  87. nflgtcfl says: Sep 13, 2016 12:36 PM

    Teams like this can play spoilers later in the season. Teams take them lightly, they start to come together and it is a bad match up for the other team and sometimes dumb luck.

    But that does not help the Browns long term.

    They should tank.

  88. micktanner says: Sep 13, 2016 12:42 PM

    clebrownsfan11 says:

    “Josh Mcown is one of the truly classy individuals in the NFL. I wish him the best.”

    Well then, you should hope that he gets traded or released!

  89. sbchampsagain says: Sep 13, 2016 12:55 PM

    Blessing in disguise. McCown threw for 457 yards against the Ravens last time. Expect a repeat performance Sunday.

  90. thefirstsmilergrogan says: Sep 13, 2016 1:17 PM

    i just looked at the browns’ drafts since 2010. mr frosty says they are good at picking talent. mr forsty has lost his mind or at least all sense of perspective. 2012 first rounders trent richardson and brandon weeden were followed by 2013 first rounder barkevious mingo. and to say johnny manziel was a good pick is to ignore the obvious: and to reward the idiot that picked the apple with the hole in it because it was cheaper than the perfect one….

    it was a good apple: except for the worm inside..

    and to the contention that the best teams are those that have stellar coaching and patient ownership… while those are nice, most times its who has the best quarterback.

    for example, bill cowher was a good coach and the steelers have the most patient ownership in the league. but until they got rothliesberger, the neil o’donnell team that got smoked in the superbowl was as good as they were going to get.

    not that the browns fans wouldn’t take that…

  91. ragnarthemagnificent says: Sep 13, 2016 1:36 PM

    The Frowns can’t even tank correctly.

  92. internetcommenter7 says: Sep 13, 2016 1:38 PM

    They have a much better chance to win with mccown than they ever did with RGme.

  93. firecracker87 says: Sep 13, 2016 1:43 PM

    So people are encouraging the Browns to cheat? Like the “Suck for Luck” campaign?

    Boy if this was NE and they did this it would be the end of the world.

  94. danfromindy says: Sep 13, 2016 1:43 PM


    The Belichick philosophy : ” If you don’t have an offensive (defensive) line, then you don’t have an offense (defense).

    The Griggy philosophy : another round of mini-WRs


    I’m still convinced that “Griggy” thinks the actual draft is the same as a PPR fantasy draft. So he doesn’t’ get lineman because they don’t score him a point on a reception.

    My Colts have been plagued with sub par coaching. Polian wasn’t a good GM (until his son starting doing things). Dungy was OK but wasn’t great. Give me Belichick, Tomlison, or someone like that any day.

  95. danfromindy says: Sep 13, 2016 1:49 PM

    Should have said Polian WAS a good GM….

  96. painsyndicate says: Sep 13, 2016 1:53 PM

    whatchutalkinabouthillis says:
    Sep 13, 2016 9:13 AM

    Has there ever been a player as good as Joe Thomas who’s team has never won anything their whole career?

    Barry Sanders?

  97. hugeheavywoman says: Sep 13, 2016 1:58 PM

    The Clowns. Totally destroyed by Denver in 3 straight AFC Championship games, their owner sold to the team to a different city, have had 100 qbs and coaches since then…………….joke by the lake!

  98. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 13, 2016 2:25 PM

    If you are so bad that you may not win more than two games, is it really tanking?

  99. drunkraider says: Sep 13, 2016 3:34 PM

    since they fail at everything they try to do. maybe if they try to lose they will win?

  100. millershepherd says: Sep 13, 2016 3:49 PM

    If you look at some of the talented players that the Browns let go and then the nature of their draft . . . . I think the analytics braintrust is expecting them to tank. They scorched earth this franchise. Again. Poor Hugh Jackson. Poor players. I think they have all been set-up to tank for at least this year and next. The problem is, even if this works in 2 years (and I doubt it), Haslam will fire the braintrust before they can turn it around. No one here has a chance.

  101. jim699 says: Sep 13, 2016 4:26 PM

    Browns will be better with McCown and would have won the job in a fair competition and most of team knows it…..they will still be a bad FB team cuz they wont be able to stop anybody on defense….


    This is exactly right. Browns were going to lose a bunch of games this year regardless, because they gutted an already bad team. They brought in RGIII to sell tickets. Nothing more.

  102. fatsolio says: Sep 13, 2016 4:58 PM

    What difference does it make? They could have the top 10 picks in the draft and they’d still screw something up and suck.

    They’re just a loser organization, plain and simple and they aren’t going to find their football version of Lebron James to come save their sorry franchise. Even if they did find him, they’d just trade away the draft pick to get him so they can stockpile more picks on guys that will be useless to preventing them from sucking.

  103. snakeskinsoul says: Sep 14, 2016 8:50 AM

    The most likely scenario is that a can’t miss superstar college quarterback shows up and the Browns win ONE game too many to have the draft pick to get him…it’s our way.😦

  104. richk412 says: Sep 14, 2016 12:02 PM

    Polish a turd and it’s still a turd.

    The Browns are tanking. It’s obvious. Does anyone really believe the Browns front office would come out and admit they are writing this season off? The season ticket holders would go crazy if the found out they paid a lot of money for tickets to watch a team intentionally go into the toilet!

    Gutting the team, jettisoning many of their experienced players while remaining $40 MILLION UNDER the salary cap, and passing on a legitimate although so far unproven talent like Wentz is tanking to me.

    There seems to be no end to the dysfunctional makeup and mindset of this woeful franchise. Who could have imagined back in 1999 when the Browns rejoined the NFL that this team would still stink in 2016?

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