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Bill Belichick says short kickoff strategy helped the Patriots win

New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick leaves the field after an NFL football game against the Arizona Cardinals, Sunday, Sept. 11, 2016, in Glendale, Ariz. The Patriots won 23-21. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin) AP

When the NFL moved the touchback to the 25-yard line, it hoped that it would encourage fewer kickoff returns. Not only is Patriots coach Bill Belichick buying into the league’s philosophy, but he says going the opposite route was a key to the Patriots winning on Sunday night.

Belichick says the Patriots were intentionally kicking the ball just short of the goal line to try to pin the Cardinals deep in their own territory, and he thinks that strategy may have been the difference between the Cardinals making and missing their game-winning field goal attempt.

“I know there was a lot of sentiment to eliminate that play, but those are the kinds of plays that are good strategy plays in football,” Belichick said.

The Patriots kicked off with 3:44 left in the game, leading 23-21. Belichick said kicker Stephen Gostkowski has a strong enough leg that he could have kicked it for a touchback, but instead he kicked it high and to the 3-yard line, giving the Patriots’ coverage team time to get down the field and tackle Cardinals return man Andre Ellington at the 17-yard line. The Cardinals also committed a holding penalty on the play, which moved the ball back to the Arizona 8-yard line. Belichick said that the Cardinals have a good team and the Patriots couldn’t afford to give them any extra yards, so he considered that kickoff a huge play.

“Certainly, we had an opportunity to kick it out of the end zone on the last kickoff, but with a good field goal kicker, a good offense, good quarterback, we try to put them on as long a field as we could,” Belichick said. “That was a great situational play and we needed it at that time.”

The Patriots sealed the win when the Cardinals missed a 47-yard field goal. As Belichick sees it, the extra 17 yards in field position the Patriots earned with their kickoff strategy probably won the game for them, as if everything else had played out the same the Cardinals would have had a much easier 30-yard field goal.

“In the end, those yards showed up on the other end of the field,” Belichick said.

And that’s why the new touchback rule doesn’t work the way it was intended: Smart coaches can use the rule to create advantages with more kickoff returns, not more touchbacks.

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  1. usa98j30t4 says: Sep 15, 2016 6:35 AM

    This is all the Ginger Hammer needs to hear. Kickoffs will be gone next year.

  2. aj66shanghai says: Sep 15, 2016 6:38 AM

    Totally, the kickoff strategy, and of course the cheating

  3. browntown57 says: Sep 15, 2016 6:39 AM

    Who could have seen this rule backfiring and creating more returns besides everyone?

  4. otistaylor89 says: Sep 15, 2016 6:39 AM

    Just remember, the same people who thought bringing the ball out to the 25 would decrease touchbacks are the same people who thought suspending Brady for 4 games is “For the good of the game”.
    My 9 year old dog could do a better job running this league (OK, he is a really smart dog).

  5. 6ball says: Sep 15, 2016 6:45 AM

    .
    17 yards of field position is 17 yards of field position on both sides of the ball, on both sides of the field.
    .

  6. ztigr says: Sep 15, 2016 6:46 AM

    Everyone saw this strategy coming since the rule was announced.

  7. boblavoie says: Sep 15, 2016 6:46 AM

    And that’s the difference between a great coach and the pretenders. Not all mind you. Loving the Brady/Belichick era in New England – from a fan from the 60’s.

  8. tonebones says: Sep 15, 2016 6:54 AM

    Wow that’s good news because the Patriots didn’t win any super bowls with the old rules.

  9. officialgame says: Sep 15, 2016 6:57 AM

    He’s right. If you have a good kicker and special teams its the right strategy. BB must have also felt the Cardinals special teams were average or below.

  10. thecape15 says: Sep 15, 2016 6:57 AM

    This strategy was obvious to me.

    BB is so smart that he has made me a smarter fan.

    Just because I watch the best coach in the game every single week.

  11. belicheathater says: Sep 15, 2016 6:57 AM

    Too easy.

  12. worldizending says: Sep 15, 2016 6:58 AM

    Here we go.

  13. mzew233 says: Sep 15, 2016 7:01 AM

    You know as a great Strategist Bill.

    One would have thought to NOT do a drop kick trick punt against Philadelphia UP 14. To lose the #1 seed. As Boston radio pointed out, you romanticize about the old kickoffs that you thought you could do then because ‘were new england’

    How about Not kicking to the Jest in OT week 16?

    How about throwing once EVER in week 17 anywhere to get anyone involved. Knowing if you lose you lose the #1 seed and your QB is going back to Denver. But you didn’t care then because you weren’t afraid of anyone. Didnt respect other teams and didnt even try to hold the #1 seed when Denver gave you so many gifts.

    Or… How about going into Denver against a Defense that kicked Brady on the ground since the first snap. Which you know psyched you out because you actually elected to receive in a playoff game. Where I dropped my $8 bud light in awe.
    But then you GO for it on 4th and 1 in FG range. Then again 4th and 6. 2+ minutes all timeouts and you throw a TD pass to double-covered Gronk expecting a flag away?
    you are a great coach. But 31 coaches in that position would have kicked a FG.

    You waited 25 seconds before calling a timeout against AZ. Had they not lost field position. and been closer or actually made it, you would be mediocre but now your great.

    And I would have given up the Arizona win for 1 reasonable call the last 4 weeks last year. To get to a SB or atleast make Manning come to Denver.

    In Bill we trust? No. No — he also makes some very bad calls and bad decisions that DO NOT put his team in the best position to win. If you can’t see that. You are a bandwagon bostonite or a Barstool fan.

  14. mike83ri says: Sep 15, 2016 7:01 AM

    Bill wins again.

  15. financialmusingsblog says: Sep 15, 2016 7:01 AM

    It’s all part of the game. If you want to make football safer, you’d have to eliminate the pads and helmets- basically, rugby.

  16. dansardo says: Sep 15, 2016 7:05 AM

    The pats are smarter than the nfl….duh

  17. yette1 says: Sep 15, 2016 7:07 AM

    Somehow this will be regarded as cheating by the Haters.

    Belichick = GOAT

  18. belicheathater says: Sep 15, 2016 7:11 AM

    New England – Cheating is your Legacy

    No matter what the story is about.

  19. golions1 says: Sep 15, 2016 7:12 AM

    Or the refs could quit calling so many holding penalties on kickoffs. Make holding legal on kickoffs, which would lead to huge returns and then the smart play is to boom the kickoff.

  20. mazenblue says: Sep 15, 2016 7:13 AM

    Make a new rule and Bill will live on it and expose it. NFL hates Bill. So do only fans of certain teams. Fact of the matter is, he is a top 3 coach in the history of the NFL AND he has top 3, arguably #1 QB of all time. The only reason Tom wont be considered for #1 of all time is because haters wont ever give him the respect he earned. NFL fans and football fans know whos great and who isnt without the team blinders on.

  21. footballfan58 says: Sep 15, 2016 7:18 AM

    I just love Belichick! He irritates so many people and Goodell will do a facepalm when/if he reads this article! Hahahaha!!!!

  22. switchwitch59 says: Sep 15, 2016 7:22 AM

    mzew233 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 7:03 AM

    You know as a great Strategist Bill.

    One would have thought to NOT do a drop kick trick punt against Philadelphia UP 14. To lose the #1 seed. As Boston radio pointed out, you romanticize about the old kickoffs that you thought you could do then because ‘were new england’

    How about Not kicking to the Jest in OT week 16?

    How about throwing once EVER in week 17 anywhere to get anyone involved. Knowing if you lose you lose the #1 seed and your QB is going back to Denver. But you didn’t care then because you weren’t afraid of anyone. Didnt respect other teams and didnt even try to hold the #1 seed when Denver gave you so many gifts.

    Or… How about going into Denver against a Defense that kicked Brady on the ground since the first snap. Which you know psyched you out because you actually elected to receive in a playoff game. Where I dropped my $8 bud light in awe.
    But then you GO for it on 4th and 1 in FG range. Then again 4th and 6. 2+ minutes all timeouts and you throw a TD pass to double-covered Gronk expecting a flag away?
    you are a great coach. But 31 coaches in that position would have kicked a FG.

    You waited 25 seconds before calling a timeout against AZ. Had they not lost field position. and been closer or actually made it, you would be mediocre but now your great.

    And I would have given up the Arizona win for 1 reasonable call the last 4 weeks last year. To get to a SB or atleast make Manning come to ***New England*.

    In Bill we trust? No. No — he also makes some very bad calls and bad decisions that DO NOT put his team in the best position to win because ‘were NE’ which other coaches would have done. If you can’t see that. You are a bandwagon bostonite or a Barstool fan.

    *make Manning come to ***New England*
    —————————————-
    What team do you coach for? You must be an NFL head coach somewhere. Otherwise, you’re just an armchair coach, just like everyone else on here. Admit it, you may know what he’s doing but you don’t know WHY he’s doing it.
    I’ve often thought he’s trying things out for future games when he does inexplicable things against lesser opponents.

  23. spotsdad says: Sep 15, 2016 7:29 AM

    In Bill we trust? No. No — he also makes some very bad calls and bad decisions that DO NOT put his team in the best position to win because ‘were NE’ which other coaches would have done. If you can’t see that. You are a bandwagon bostonite or a Barstool fan.

    *make Manning come to ***New England*
    ********************************************
    Thanks for the edification. Now myself and every other person, reporter, football expert, and fan knows BB isn’t very good. Who knew?

  24. babyjunkie says: Sep 15, 2016 7:36 AM

    While the rest of the league plays checkers, Bill Belichick is playing (and winning) at chess.

  25. bartpkelly says: Sep 15, 2016 7:39 AM

    B planned for the penalty also….lol

  26. footballfanatic says: Sep 15, 2016 7:43 AM

    Oh god, here we go with Pats fans saying Bill is a genius- EVERY single coach out there is doing this. It just matters if your kicker is good at it or not- which has nothing to do with Bill. Every coach has come forward and said this new rule will hurt more ppl b/c everyone will kick it short so they try to return it.

  27. patriotnation87 says: Sep 15, 2016 7:44 AM

    mzew233 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 7:01 AM

    You know as a great Strategist Bill.

    One would have thought to NOT do a drop kick trick punt against Philadelphia UP 14. To lose the #1 seed. As Boston radio pointed out, you romanticize about the old kickoffs that you thought you could do then because ‘were new england’

    How about Not kicking to the Jest in OT week 16?

    How about throwing once EVER in week 17 anywhere to get anyone involved. Knowing if you lose you lose the #1 seed and your QB is going back to Denver. But you didn’t care then because you weren’t afraid of anyone. Didnt respect other teams and didnt even try to hold the #1 seed when Denver gave you so many gifts.

    Or… How about going into Denver against a Defense that kicked Brady on the ground since the first snap. Which you know psyched you out because you actually elected to receive in a playoff game. Where I dropped my $8 bud light in awe.
    But then you GO for it on 4th and 1 in FG range. Then again 4th and 6. 2+ minutes all timeouts and you throw a TD pass to double-covered Gronk expecting a flag away?
    you are a great coach. But 31 coaches in that position would have kicked a FG.

    You waited 25 seconds before calling a timeout against AZ. Had they not lost field position. and been closer or actually made it, you would be mediocre but now your great.

    And I would have given up the Arizona win for 1 reasonable call the last 4 weeks last year. To get to a SB or atleast make Manning come to Denver.

    In Bill we trust? No. No — he also makes some very bad calls and bad decisions that DO NOT put his team in the best position to win. If you can’t see that. You are a bandwagon bostonite or a Barstool fan.

    ============================

    I am a diehard Patriots fan and a diehard Barstool Sports fan and I agree with you 100%.
    If the Patriots win either of those games you mentioned, Eagles and Dolphins…or at Denver in regular season up 21-7 in the 3rd quarter getting the ball back and a muffed punt by CHRIS HARPER cost them the game, they would have had home field and beat Denver in NE and then went on to win their 5th SB. Belichick is great and I wouldn’t want any other coach coaching my team but he is not infallible! He makes mistakes too!

  28. exinsidetrader says: Sep 15, 2016 7:46 AM

    This reminds me of why professional politicians often push policies that end up having the opposite effect to what they intended: They have no real-world experience and are not held accountable for failure.

    Too many professional-suits in the NFL office and not enough people with real-world intelligence.

    BB for head of NFL officiating after he retires.

  29. stepheni74 says: Sep 15, 2016 7:49 AM

    ok wait a minute here…He thinks that was a smart strategy, and I am not denying that, but let’s not forget there was a 10 yard penalty on that play that pushed them back another 10 yards. So stop drinking the kool aid folks. Sheesh

  30. celticsforever says: Sep 15, 2016 7:55 AM

    I think the Pats just violated article 46. They are obviously thumbing their nose at the shield which falls under an article 46 violation. Goodell is likely trying to figure out how to suspend NE from the next draft entirely, likely at the same time auctioning off their remaining draft picks to the Colts, Jets and Broncos (just them).

  31. 6ball says: Sep 15, 2016 8:04 AM

    .
    @mszew

    You’ve really tapped into something. Patriots fans are bitterly disappointed in their coaching staff who’ve only delivered an average of over 12 wins per season since 2001. Your also correct that out of the multitude of in game, draft day and other personnel moves, a few have been highly suspect. We need to hire someone infallible, like the pope.
    .

  32. marima07 says: Sep 15, 2016 8:06 AM

    In Bill we trust? No. No — he also makes some very bad calls and bad decisions that DO NOT put his team in the best position to win because ‘were NE’ which other coaches would have done. If you can’t see that. You are a bandwagon bostonite or a Barstool fan.

    *make Manning come to ***New England*
    ———————————-
    Bill Belichick is a smart coach who occasionally makes bad decisions.

    A zillion times better than having a dumb coach who occasionally makes good decisions.

  33. whywerule says: Sep 15, 2016 8:16 AM


    mzew233 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 7:01 AM

    In Bill we trust? No. No — he also makes some very bad calls and bad decisions that DO NOT put his team in the best position to win.

    Who wins more often than 10 AFC Championships and 6 Super Bowl appearances in the past 15 years?

    Is Bill Belichick perfect? No, and he will be the second (after me) to tell you that. He is, however, the closest thing to perfection from an NFL Head Coach and NFL General Manager that has ever been seen or likely will ever be seen in the NFL.

  34. theandy59 says: Sep 15, 2016 8:19 AM

    I was surprised when the Cards kicked it through the end zone near the end of the first half when they were kicking from the 50 due to a penalty on the PAT. Why would they just hand the Patriots the 25 yard line when they had a chance to pin them deep and get it back with good field position and maybe a chance for a FG before the half ends? I’m pretty sure what BB would have done in that spot…

  35. patsfan1960 says: Sep 15, 2016 8:25 AM

    That rule will be changed ASAP now that league knows it helped the pats win..will Roger be suspended be generally aware of that rule helping the pats win ?

  36. theclebrowns says: Sep 15, 2016 8:28 AM

    Why didn’t teams use this strategy when the touchback was 20 yards?

  37. lscottman3 says: Sep 15, 2016 8:32 AM

    yet the NFL puts people on the competition committee who pale in comparison to Bill’s knowledge of the game.

    Spiteful Godell, keep spouting integrity and put your ball washing buddies on the committee.

  38. illiniftw says: Sep 15, 2016 8:33 AM

    mzew233 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 7:03 AM

    *A few bad decisions BB has made
    ————————————————-

    How long has BB been coaching? I’ve seen coaches make more bad decisions in one GAME……

  39. bullcharger says: Sep 15, 2016 8:35 AM

    mzew233 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 7:01 AM
    You know as a great Strategist Bill.

    One would have thought to NOT do a drop kick trick punt against Philadelphia UP 14. To lose the #1 seed. As Boston radio pointed out, you romanticize about the old kickoffs that you thought you could do then because ‘were new england’

    How about Not kicking to the Jest in OT week 16?

    How about throwing once EVER in week 17 anywhere to get anyone involved. Knowing if you lose you lose the #1 seed and your QB is going back to Denver. But you didn’t care then because you weren’t afraid of anyone. Didnt respect other teams and didnt even try to hold the #1 seed when Denver gave you so many gifts.

    Or… How about going into Denver against a Defense that kicked Brady on the ground since the first snap. Which you know psyched you out because you actually elected to receive in a playoff game. Where I dropped my $8 bud light in awe.
    But then you GO for it on 4th and 1 in FG range. Then again 4th and 6. 2+ minutes all timeouts and you throw a TD pass to double-covered Gronk expecting a flag away?
    you are a great coach. But 31 coaches in that position would have kicked a FG.

    You waited 25 seconds before calling a timeout against AZ. Had they not lost field position. and been closer or actually made it, you would be mediocre but now your great.

    And I would have given up the Arizona win for 1 reasonable call the last 4 weeks last year. To get to a SB or atleast make Manning come to Denver.

    In Bill we trust? No. No — he also makes some very bad calls and bad decisions that DO NOT put his team in the best position to win. If you can’t see that. You are a bandwagon bostonite or a Barstool fan.

    ——————

    Every coach has mistakes and losses. Bill just has less mistakes than everyone else and he takes risks to try and win the game instead of always playing safe.

  40. lscottman3 says: Sep 15, 2016 8:36 AM

    The NFL commissioner selects the members of the Competition Committee, which currently consists of two owners, two club presidents, two general managers and three head coaches:

    Rich McKay (chairman) – president, Atlanta Falcons
    John Mara – owner, New York Giants
    Stephen Jones – owner, Dallas Cowboys
    Mark Murphy – president, Green Bay Packers
    Ozzie Newsome – general manager, Baltimore Ravens
    Rick Smith – general manager, Houston Texans
    Marvin Lewis – head coach, Cincinnati Bengals
    Mike Tomlin – head coach, Pittsburgh Steelers
    Bruce Arians – head coach, Arizona Cardinals
    Tom Coughlin – senior advisor, NFL Football Operations
    John Elway – general manager, Denver Broncos

    only Coughlin has Bill Belichick’s football acumen, yet Godell can’t do what is in the best interest of the NFL and put the brightest mind on the committee.

    #integrity, what’s up is down

  41. piratefreedom says: Sep 15, 2016 8:41 AM

    I love the losers who need to type up temper tantrums anytime Belichick gets mentioned.
    Their commitment to denying reality is a testament to the durability of the human spirit.

  42. rportkid says: Sep 15, 2016 8:42 AM

    Obviously. The league is run by a bunch of buffoons who are led by a dishonest commissioner. Does anyone expect intelligent decisions from this mob?

  43. guitarkevin says: Sep 15, 2016 8:47 AM

    Even I thought that should be a strategy when they made the change, and I’m just a Joe Schmoe sitting on my couch watching the game.

    Keep it simple folks.

  44. patriotsticketssince1978 says: Sep 15, 2016 8:49 AM

    Strategy sure. You do need to execute however.

    Consider Gostkowski’s game that night. Perfect on extra points. a 47 yarder, 53 yarder and the game winner. His kickoffs landed at the 5, 3, goal line (3 times) and two yards deep, an average landing spot of the 1 yard line.

    That is probowl execution.

  45. rootpain says: Sep 15, 2016 8:51 AM

    spotsdad says:
    Sep 15, 2016 7:29 AM
    In Bill we trust? No. No — he also makes some very bad calls and bad decisions that DO NOT put his team in the best position to win because ‘were NE’ which other coaches would have done. If you can’t see that. You are a bandwagon bostonite or a Barstool fan.
    ============================
    I’ll admit to being one of those who ‘can’t’ see your perspective. And I know it’s not because I am following with my eyes wide shut.
    Any successful organization requires three types of people; a visionary conceptionalizer, an implementer and a maintainer. It’s rare that one person possesses all those skills genetically because genetically, they serve different purposes. So they have to be bred into a person.
    With the proper upbringing, one person can be taught all the skill sets. But once taught, the good student knows where he has to supplement his resource pool to effect his goals.
    Belichick has Robert Kraft under his wing and Ernie Adams and Josh McDaniels and Matt Patricia and Dante Scarnecchia and Tom Brady as some of his implementors and maintainers that he has used year to year and other who he uses on an as required basis ie many of the players who have a SuperBowl ring in their collection.
    I’m don’t look at any failed play that Belichick called as a misinformed or miscalculated decision because there is nothing that he calls that he and his team havent discussed a hundred times before. Sure the play may not have been executed as planned but in Belichick’s case, it had certainly been executed successfully more times than not in practice and in his head. Every time. And that is what makes him a successful coach, a smart man, trained from his youth for the job, who loves the job, knows the limitations of the job, surrounds himself with an appropriate number of like minded people and doggedly executes the plan without taking shortcuts. There are not many like him.

  46. xxsweepthelegxx says: Sep 15, 2016 9:03 AM

    @ mzew233 says:

    Bill is not ALWAYS, right sure. But for every ‘poor’ decision you summed up, he made 25 good ones. That’s what I want in a coach.

    Also, your arguments had a lot of would’ve and could’ve statements. You realize those things didn’t happen right? And for all you criticize in the Denver game, they were a missed PAT away from OT with the kicker that holds the all time record for most consecutive PATs. Seems like he played his cards on, players need to execute too.

    I’m glad he coaches the team I root for, even if he isn’t perfect. We have hindsight after the game too, he doesn’t get that luxury.

  47. charliecharger says: Sep 15, 2016 9:11 AM

    I think the Patriots did ok with the old kickoff rules too. Four super bowl wins is ok in my book.

  48. Mo Pro Babble says: Sep 15, 2016 9:16 AM

    New England figured out a way to make this work in their favor so I expect they will either change the rule again or just find a way to call a penalty on every NE kickoff to make up the difference.

    In the words of the prophet Bruno,

    Don’t believe me, just watch.

  49. greenlargo says: Sep 15, 2016 9:17 AM

    mzew233 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 7:01 AM
    You know as a great Strategist Bill

    ….blah….blah…..blah…..

    In Bill we trust? No. No — he also makes some very bad calls and bad decisions that DO NOT put his team in the best position to win. If you can’t see that. You are a bandwagon bostonite or a Barstool fan.

    —————————-

    Wow, it really bugs you how good BB is. An article that speaks to one his many great strategic moves prompts you to put every decision that ever came out the way he didn’t plan (you had to go back pretty far on some and the fact they could still all fit into a single post just further proves how good BB is) shows how desperate you are to be critical of the best coach in NFL history. (Which is saying a lot because there have been some other pretty great ones too).

    As far as bandwagon fans, the Patriots have only (only?) been the most overall dominant team in the league for a little over a decade and a half. So some of your people that didn’t become fans until after that was because they were not born yet. I think that’s a valid excuse for being late to the party. And the older ones were from the era where Schaeffer/Sullivan stadium used to sell out even in late December (those games were nicknamed the Freezer Bowls) where fans would sit on cold metal benches and cheer wildly for a team that just wasn’t very good. They did that for decades and their critic’s complaint back then was about how boisterous and rowdy they got. (So things have actually settled down during the good years) So your ‘bandwagon’ fans (as you like to call them) are primarily divided into two groups. Those that are not bandwagon at all, they went the distance and paid their dues up front. Or those that simply hadn’t been born yet because the Pat’s have been great for that long now.

  50. raidernation210 says: Sep 15, 2016 9:18 AM

    In the end the Cardinals kicker missed a makeable field goal and everybody acts like the patriots really won that game…lol!!

  51. fwippel says: Sep 15, 2016 9:23 AM

    It’s not like Belichick is the only coach doing this. Kicking off short of the goal line is happening throughout the league for one basic reason: field position.

    The fact that the league office actually thought they could give an extra five yards to the offense on kickoffs, and have every special teams coach in the league just say “yeah, sure, we’re fine with that”, is unbelievably shortsighted.

    Rule changes like this are just one more example of Roger Goodell’s incompetence. The owners certainly chose him to do their bidding, but when it comes to managing how the game is played (and many other matters) Goodell is an empty suit.

  52. Mo Pro Babble says: Sep 15, 2016 9:29 AM

    raidernation210 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:18 AM
    In the end the Cardinals kicker missed a makeable field goal and everybody acts like the patriots really won that game…lol!!

    When Norwood went wide right Bill Parcells became a legend.

    What’s your point?

  53. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 15, 2016 9:33 AM

    In the end the Cardinals kicker missed a makeable field goal and everybody acts like the patriots really won that game…lol!!


    Scoreboard. 🙂

    #ThereIsNoRebuttalJack
    #ScoreboardRulesAll
    #DontEvenTry

  54. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 15, 2016 9:37 AM

    raidernation210 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:18 AM

    In the end the Cardinals kicker missed a makeable field goal and everybody acts like the patriots really won that game…lol!!
    —–

    The Patriots did win that game.

  55. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 15, 2016 9:40 AM

    Maybe trying to implement something absolutely moronic like eliminating the kickoff will be enough to remove #LyinRoger from his job.

    I can’t think of any commissioner in the history of professional sports at any time who is half as clueless as this dope. If he can’t think of a sensible way to deal with the concussion problems then it’s time to step aside.

  56. greenlargo says: Sep 15, 2016 9:43 AM

    raidernation210 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:18 AM
    In the end the Cardinals kicker missed a makeable field goal and everybody acts like the patriots really won that game…lol!!

    ———————–

    So your point is that the Pat’s were leading as the game wound down and held their lead. There are many that do refer to that as winning.

  57. mswravens says: Sep 15, 2016 9:46 AM

    I think the Cardinals kicker missing the GW FG helped a lot too. Cheaters didn’t win. Cardinals lost.

  58. MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says: Sep 15, 2016 9:46 AM

    Short kickoff strategy will not work this week.
    Dolphins 24
    Pats 13
    Can’t wait to see all my Patriots pals.

  59. I_Just_Like_Typing_Comments_That_Wont_Get_Published says: Sep 15, 2016 9:47 AM

    stepheni74 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 7:49 AM

    ok wait a minute here…He thinks that was a smart strategy, and I am not denying that, but let’s not forget there was a 10 yard penalty on that play that pushed them back another 10 yards. So stop drinking the kool aid folks. Sheesh
    ==================
    I keep seeing this sentiment. The penalty was a bonus per se. If they kick the ball out of the back of the end zone the cardinals don’t get a chance to commit the penalty and the drive starts at the 25. Belichick determined that forcing a return would force them to start inside their 25. Bill was right, they started at the 17 (+8 yards for Bill). But they also committed a penalty and started at the 8 (+17 yards for Bill). You people are grasping at anything to avoid saying Belichick made the right call here

  60. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 15, 2016 9:47 AM

    Belichick = Greatest head coach in NFL history. And perhaps in the history of American professional sports.

    That’s not an opinion, that’s a fact. There really is no point arguing this. It’s a futile exercise disputing what is fact.

    #FactsAreFacts
    #TruthIsTruth
    #TruthHurts
    🙂

  61. Mo Pro Babble says: Sep 15, 2016 9:48 AM

    you are a great coach. But 31 coaches in that position would have kicked a FG.

    The 28 coaches who were home watching that game because they didn’t make it that far probably agree with you.

    That’s why they were on the couch that day.

    On balance, BB makes more good and less bad decisions than, well pretty much every other coach.

  62. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 15, 2016 9:50 AM

    dansardo says:
    Sep 15, 2016 7:05 AM

    The pats are smarter than the nfl….duh


    Everyone knows that.🙂

    So are their fans.🙂 Greatest fanbase in pro football as proven beyond any shadow of a doubt by a recent study.

    Uh oh Patriot Hater mad again.🙂 Tee hee🙂

  63. metitometin says: Sep 15, 2016 9:51 AM

    This can’t sit well with Roger Goodell. He hates being outsmarted and upstaged by Bellichick. I’m expecting him to hire Ted Wells to start another bogus investigation on the Patriot kickoffs any second now. At least the Cardinals aren’t whiners like the Colts and Ravens were.

  64. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 15, 2016 9:54 AM

    Just remember, the same people who thought bringing the ball out to the 25 would decrease touchbacks are the same people who thought suspending Brady for 4 games is “For the good of the game”.


    Oh indeed it is “good for the game”. *cough* Parity is what the NFL wants.
    All intelligent fans in existence know that there are teams in the league that simply aren’t man enough to put in the work and effort to compete with the 4 time World Champion Patriots and GOAT QB Tom Brady so they would rather take short cuts… crying to the league like the little wussies that they are to do something about those meanies in Foxboro.

    #HowPatheticIsThat
    #ImGladImWithAREALMansTeamAndNotAWussyOne

  65. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 15, 2016 9:54 AM

    this will soon be known as “violating the spirit of the rule”.

    by the end of the season it will evolve to “cheating by breaking the kickoff rule”

    and Patriots fans will keep smiling

  66. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 15, 2016 9:56 AM

    Do you think fans of teams that aren’t man enough to put in the work and effort to compete with the 4 time World Champion Patriots and GOAT QB Tom Brady are just as wussy as their teams are?

    I think so. It speaks volumes that they enable those teams to be who they are instead of demanding better.

    Discuss.

  67. tim8450 says: Sep 15, 2016 9:57 AM

    exinsidetrader says:
    Sep 15, 2016 7:46 AM
    This reminds me of why professional politicians often push policies that end up having the opposite effect to what they intended: They have no real-world experience and are not held accountable for failure.

    Too many professional-suits in the NFL office and not enough people with real-world intelligence.

    BB for head of NFL officiating after he retires.

    ==========

    Yes, I am sure Bill would like to work for the NFL office and for that salary after he retires….

    lol

  68. flaccojumpball says: Sep 15, 2016 9:59 AM

    Keep cheating Bill. Way to circumvent the rules that Roger implemented. Perhaps you should be sat down for a few games like Brady is currently. That’s what happens when you spend the last 10 years cheating at a high level.

  69. tylawspick6 says: Sep 15, 2016 10:01 AM

    Pats took it to the Cardinals and Goodell’s scheduling plan to mess with the Pats, to cheat them, BACKFIRED.

    It’s a joyous week!

    And BB is a genius!

  70. nitzie says: Sep 15, 2016 10:07 AM

    now Patriots fans understand that it is possible to win without cheating.

  71. chesswhileyouplaycheckers says: Sep 15, 2016 10:14 AM

    raidernation210 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:18 AM
    In the end the Cardinals kicker missed a makeable field goal and everybody acts like the patriots really won that game…lol!!
    ————————

    Following that logic the Broncos did not really win the AFCCG and therefore the SB due to NE missing either an extra point or a FG and the Giants didn’t win SB XXV (wide right) just to name a couple of the bigger misses that come to mind. But then why stop there? 90% of all td’s weren’t really scored, they only happened because someone didn’t make a tackle or defend a pass…
    Raider fans, give ’em credit they are right up there with fish and cowgirls fans when it comes to proclaiming their lack of football acumen for all the world to see.

  72. greenlargo says: Sep 15, 2016 10:24 AM

    345snarkavenue says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:54 AM
    this will soon be known as “violating the spirit of the rule”.

    by the end of the season it will evolve to “cheating by breaking the kickoff rule”

    and Patriots fans will keep smiling

    —————————–
    And a few posts later we have it!…….
    (anyone surprised a Ravens fan was first out the gate?)
    —————————–

    flaccojumpball says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:59 AM
    Keep cheating Bill. Way to circumvent the rules that Roger implemented. Perhaps you should be sat down for a few games like Brady is currently. That’s what happens when you spend the last 10 years cheating at a high level.

    —————————–

    You sure called it spot on 345snarkavenue. Funny as all heck.

  73. mmack66 says: Sep 15, 2016 10:24 AM

    flaccojumpball says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:59 AM

    Way to circumvent the rules that Roger implemented.
    —————————-

    Goodell doesn’t implement any rules.

  74. touchdownelvis says: Sep 15, 2016 10:27 AM

    See, BB actually says interesting things, and speaks at length, when people ask him questions about football.

  75. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 15, 2016 10:30 AM

    so now the reasoning is….if a team that is down by one score, has possession of the ball at the end of the game, but does not score…..they still win?

    LMAO

    looks like Goodell’s way of thinking is really rubbing off onto some people.

  76. greenlargo says: Sep 15, 2016 10:32 AM

    patsfan1960 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 8:25 AM
    That rule will be changed ASAP now that league knows it helped the pats win..will Roger be suspended be generally aware of that rule helping the pats win ?

    ——————————

    Ikr? Do you think they will wait for the offseason or do you think this might be an emergency?

  77. MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says: Sep 15, 2016 10:33 AM

    Their were no Pats fans before 2001, just frustrated red sox fans dealing with decades of Yankee envy. lol

  78. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 15, 2016 10:34 AM

    ” Keep cheating Bill. Way to circumvent the rules that Roger implemented.”

    Lol that’s the insanity of the Pats hater for you. They follow the limitations of the rule, do nothing wrong yet you still somehow think it’s “cheating”.

    Tell me, why, since many other teams also used the strategy of kicking deep but not into the end zone, are you not in all the threads of those teams calling them “cheaters” even though they too followed the rules?

    That’s called a double standard by the way, and invalidates any complaint you have about the Pats.

    Furthermore, coming from a Ravens fan, whose owner, GM and coach buried the Ray Rice domestic violence incident and abused his wife further by making her get up in front of a mic and take blame, another form of domestic violence blaming the victim. SMH The disgusting ownership and management of the Ravens who enable domestic violence knowing full well what they were hiding. Just vile.

  79. lscottman3 says: Sep 15, 2016 10:36 AM

    flaccojumpball says:

    Keep cheating Bill. Way to circumvent the rules that Roger implemented. That’s what happens when you spend the last 10 years cheating at a high level.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    nitzie says:

    now Patriots fans understand that it is possible to win without cheating.

    ==============================

    haters can’t even get on the same page

  80. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 15, 2016 10:37 AM

    MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:33 AM
    Their were no Pats fans before 2001, just frustrated red sox fans dealing with decades of Yankee envy. lol

    ———-

    we were more than happy to hand off the envy baton to you back in 2001. you clearly still have a firm grasp on it.

  81. Mo Pro Babble says: Sep 15, 2016 10:39 AM

    harrisonhits2 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:34 AM
    ” Keep cheating Bill. Way to circumvent the rules that Roger implemented.”

    Lol that’s the insanity of the Pats hater for you. They follow the limitations of the rule, do nothing wrong yet you still somehow think it’s “cheating”.

    Tell me, why, since many other teams also used the strategy of kicking deep but not into the end zone, are you not in all the threads of those teams calling them “cheaters” even though they too followed the rules?

    That’s called a double standard by the way, and invalidates any complaint you have about the Pats.

    Furthermore, coming from a Ravens fan, whose owner, GM and coach buried the Ray Rice domestic violence incident and abused his wife further by making her get up in front of a mic and take blame, another form of domestic violence blaming the victim. SMH The disgusting ownership and management of the Ravens who enable domestic violence knowing full well what they were hiding. Just vile.

    If only I could like this 100x, but you did forget to mention the statue.

    Goes to character your honor.

  82. greenlargo says: Sep 15, 2016 10:40 AM

    Ok, that didn’t work out so well, so here is what I reccomend they implement (listen up Roger)…

    Kickoffs are eliminated, all teams take the ball on the 20.

    2 exceptions…
    1) Any team playing the Patriots that week takes it on the 45 (Pat’s 45?)
    2) The Patriots take it on the 5.

    Matthew Slater is automatically suspended for each season that he fails to retire.

  83. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 15, 2016 10:40 AM

    mswravens says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:46 AM

    I think the Cardinals kicker missing the GW FG helped a lot too. Cheaters didn’t win. Cardinals lost.


    Yes cheaters didn’t win. The 1-0 Patriots didn’t cheat and never did.

    Oooh look at how angry ur getting.🙂

    #IOwnAllPatriotHater
    #BowDownToYourMaster
    🙂

  84. Mo Pro Babble says: Sep 15, 2016 10:41 AM

    MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:33 AM
    Their were no Pats fans before 2001, just frustrated red sox fans dealing with decades of Yankee envy. lol

    So who was in the seats when they went to the SB in 85 & 96?

    All this from fan of a team that hasn’t won anything since waaaaay before replay reviews. Laughable.

  85. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 15, 2016 10:42 AM

    MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:46 AM

    Short kickoff strategy will not work this week.
    Dolphins 24
    Pats 13
    Can’t wait to see all my Patriots pals.

    —-

    The Miami Dolphins have had 17 quarterbacks since Marino.

    Garoppolo is better than all of them.🙂 In fact I say he’s better than Marino too.🙂

    Discuss.

  86. superpatriotsfan says: Sep 15, 2016 10:46 AM

    345snarkavenue says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:37 AM
    MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:33 AM
    Their were no Pats fans before 2001, just frustrated red sox fans dealing with decades of Yankee envy. lol
    ————–
    Well yeah, as a Super Fan of the team, the Pats came into the league in 2001. Cause we are so wicked smaht

  87. frankmalzonefan says: Sep 15, 2016 10:47 AM

    otistaylor89 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 6:39 AM
    Just remember, the same people who thought bringing the ball out to the 25 would decrease touchbacks are the same people who thought suspending Brady for 4 games is “For the good of the game”.
    My 9 year old dog could do a better job running this league (OK, he is a really smart dog).

    —————————————————————

    Your dog is probably going to want to replace Troy Vincent.

    My dog’s smart too – he understands that the tennis ball I throw bounces differently in the winter than it does in the summer.

    Think your dog will give my dog a job in the League office?

  88. greenlargo says: Sep 15, 2016 10:48 AM

    MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:46 AM
    Short kickoff strategy will not work this week.
    Dolphins 24
    Pats 13
    Can’t wait to see all my Patriots pals.

    ————————–

    Saved you a seat bud!

  89. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 15, 2016 10:52 AM

    Tell me, why, since many other teams also used the strategy of kicking deep but not into the end zone, are you not in all the threads of those teams calling them “cheaters” even though they too followed the rules?


    Because the Ravens and their fans are a bunch of little wussies.🙂

    Perfectly understandable, as they follow the lead of their head coach.🙂 I wonder what he’s going to cry about this year when Tom Brady and the Patriots beat them by 50.
    🙂

  90. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 15, 2016 10:55 AM

    greenlargo says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:24 AM

    You sure called it spot on 345snarkavenue. Funny as all heck.

    ——–

    Thanks. it’s really just the manifestation of Patriot Hater’s predictability

  91. greenlargo says: Sep 15, 2016 10:57 AM

    MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:33 AM
    Their were no Pats fans before 2001, just frustrated red sox fans dealing with decades of Yankee envy. lol
    –———————————

    Oh come on. The 70’s, 80’s and 90,s weren’t that long ago. (Oh wait, they were)
    Do you remember
    late games in December
    That the league made the Florida teams play

    Schaefer was full
    Of Pat’s fans screaming bull
    while the Dolphins would carry the day.

    Seriously, you guys used to win way back in those days. Don’t lose a memory so precious.

  92. 41chacha says: Sep 15, 2016 10:59 AM

    mswravens says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:46 AM
    I think the Cardinals kicker missing the GW FG helped a lot too. Cheaters didn’t win. Cardinals lost.
    ——————————-
    Your right and Patriots kicker missed a PAT in last years AFC championship game so Denver did not win, Patriots lost.

  93. MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says: Sep 15, 2016 11:00 AM

    Garcrapollo looks great no doubt, Shady might be in trouble no doubt.ROFL

  94. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 15, 2016 11:01 AM

    superpatriotsfan says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:46 AM

    Cause we are so wicked smaht

    ———

    you really don’t have any clue that there are large geographical areas of Patriot Nation that do in fact pronounce the R, and even some areas that having a stronger pronunciation of the R than the average English-as-a-first-language American, do you?

    I’ll go eat some chowder while waiting for your response (sarcasm)

  95. LyinRogerMustGo says: Sep 15, 2016 11:04 AM

    Shady might be in trouble no doubt.ROFL

    —-
    Sadly in life… wishful thinking does not make it so, son.
    🙂

  96. Surf Bandits says: Sep 15, 2016 11:06 AM

    flaccojumpball says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:59 AM

    Keep cheating Bill. Way to circumvent the rules that Roger implemented. Perhaps you should be sat down for a few games like Brady is currently. That’s what happens when you spend the last 10 years cheating at a high level.
    ___________________________________
    Ladies and gentlemen here is the perfect example of the hater/troll. This person makes claims of cheating by Belichick because he “circumvented the rules that Roger implemented!” I’d say this is one “butt hurt” fan who is still having nightmares over “#34 is ineligible, do not cover 34.”

    Other teams used this strategy during week one and it’s ok for them, but if NE does it it’s cheating! No, it’s called STRATEGY!

    Look at it this way: If you’re going to kick-off short there’s 2 main things you need…A good kicker, and good special teams.

    Not a NE fan, but sheesh, you have to recognize good play and good strategy.

  97. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 15, 2016 11:07 AM

    frankmalzonefan says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:47 AM

    Your dog is probably going to want to replace Troy Vincent.

    My dog’s smart too – he understands that the tennis ball I throw bounces differently in the winter than it does in the summer.

    Think your dog will give my dog a job in the League office?

    ————

    we’ll have to change the league address to 345 Bark Avenue

  98. jwcarlson says: Sep 15, 2016 11:11 AM

    I’ll tell you what. Put the touchbacks to the 40 and I bet that would fix it. Maybe the 50.

    Hell, just get rid of it all together and play half-field football.
    That way you can put a lot more seats in the stadiums.

  99. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 15, 2016 11:12 AM

    I must say….I’m still waiting to limakey’s take on Bill’s comments. Should be priceless.

  100. imodan says: Sep 15, 2016 11:13 AM

    raidernation210 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:18 AM
    In the end the Cardinals kicker missed a makeable field goal and everybody acts like the patriots really won that game…lol!!
    ————————————————————–
    Pats 23 Cardinals 21. Pats 28 Seahawks 24. Pats 16 Raiders 13. Interestingly when looking at the official results all three are listed as wins yet for some inexplicable reason certain people still falsely believe their team won. No, team with most points when time runs out wins. Always has, always will. However if Goodell could figure out a way to make an exception to that rule I’m sure all of those would have been declared Patriot losses. Because, well, it’s the Patriots and they’re just too darned good.

  101. veddermn8 says: Sep 15, 2016 11:34 AM

    mzew233 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 7:01 AM

    You know as a great Strategist Bill.

    One would have thought to NOT do a drop kick trick punt against Philadelphia UP 14. To lose the #1 seed. As Boston radio pointed out, you romanticize about the old kickoffs that you thought you could do then because ‘were new england’

    How about Not kicking to the Jest in OT week 16?

    How about throwing once EVER in week 17 anywhere to get anyone involved. Knowing if you lose you lose the #1 seed and your QB is going back to Denver. But you didn’t care then because you weren’t afraid of anyone. Didnt respect other teams and didnt even try to hold the #1 seed when Denver gave you so many gifts.

    Or… How about going into Denver against a Defense that kicked Brady on the ground since the first snap. Which you know psyched you out because you actually elected to receive in a playoff game. Where I dropped my $8 bud light in awe.
    But then you GO for it on 4th and 1 in FG range. Then again 4th and 6. 2+ minutes all timeouts and you throw a TD pass to double-covered Gronk expecting a flag away?
    you are a great coach. But 31 coaches in that position would have kicked a FG.

    You waited 25 seconds before calling a timeout against AZ. Had they not lost field position. and been closer or actually made it, you would be mediocre but now your great.

    And I would have given up the Arizona win for 1 reasonable call the last 4 weeks last year. To get to a SB or atleast make Manning come to Denver.

    In Bill we trust? No. No — he also makes some very bad calls and bad decisions that DO NOT put his team in the best position to win. If you can’t see that. You are a bandwagon bostonite or a Barstool fan.

    ……….

    There were some really weird calls last year agreed, but he’s made 9 Super Bowl appearances and won 6 in his career. He doesn’t do things without reason. They don’t always work out, but I wouldn’t want anyone else coaching the team I root for.

  102. veddermn8 says: Sep 15, 2016 11:37 AM

    flaccojumpball says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:59 AM

    Keep cheating Bill. Way to circumvent the rules that Roger implemented. Perhaps you should be sat down for a few games like Brady is currently. That’s what happens when you spend the last 10 years cheating at a high level.
    ………

    So what rule violation occurred? And why would you just point out that the Pats kicked short last week when there were several teams that did the same thing? You gotta read the rules and do some research.

  103. ricko1112 says: Sep 15, 2016 11:39 AM

    Once again, Bill has used the rules to his advantage. We all know what that means…Other coaches will cry to the League and the rule will get changed.

    Other examples:

    Physical defensive backs play (Colts got that changed)
    Manning and the Colts’ soft receivers couldn’t beat NE.

    Tuck Rule (Raiders got that changed)
    It was called AGAINST NE earlier in the year, but no one cared.

    Ineligible receivers (Ravens got it changed)
    The refs told Harbaugh who not to cover. The refs told the Ravens’ D who not to cover. The stadium announcer told the entire stadium who not to cover. The TV announcers told the entire TV audience who not to cover.

  104. MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says: Sep 15, 2016 11:47 AM

    BB is wicked smaht especially at cheating, we can all agree.

  105. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 15, 2016 11:57 AM

    “BB is wicked smaht especially at cheating, we can all agree.”

    What as opposed to Shulacheat who cheated from day 1 with the Fins by negotiating a contract with Miami while he was still under contract to Baltimore?

  106. whywerule says: Sep 15, 2016 12:12 PM

    The level of ignorance required for anyone to whine about the strategy the Patriots, and other teams, employed with regards to the kickoffs last weekend is staggering.

    Bust a kickoff return or two for 35+ yards and the team employing that strategy will end the strategy at least for that game.

    I know that Pats fans, easily the most intelligent, thoughtful, generous, and humble fan base in the history of professional sports are not the only fans that know how to end that strategy.

  107. greenlargo says: Sep 15, 2016 12:13 PM

    veddermn8 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 11:37 AM
    flaccojumpball says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:59 AM

    Keep cheating Bill. Way to circumvent the rules that Roger implemented. Perhaps you should be sat down for a few games like Brady is currently. That’s what happens when you spend the last 10 years cheating at a high level.
    ………

    So what rule violation occurred? And why would you just point out that the Pats kicked short last week when there were several teams that did the same thing? You gotta read the rules and do some research.

    ———————-

    Don’t bother asking them to read a rule book in Baltimore, they don’t do that. I’m pretty sure the envelope it came in is still unopened.

  108. lanman11 says: Sep 15, 2016 12:17 PM

    The guy wins. A lot. Detractors have no case.

  109. greenlargo says: Sep 15, 2016 12:20 PM

    ricko1112 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 11:39 AM

    Ineligible receivers (Ravens got it changed)
    The refs told Harbaugh who not to cover. The refs told the Ravens’ D who not to cover. The stadium announcer told the entire stadium who not to cover. The TV announcers told the entire TV audience who not to cover.

    —————————

    Yeah but their exact words were “34 is inelligable, do not cover 34” So what’s that supposed to mean? Do you cover 34 or not? Isn’t he eligable? I mean really, it was not fair to the Ravens nor to Harbaugh how ambiguous that was. And they only pointed to which player 34 was and where he was in the formation a couple of times while they were saying that. There are 11 players on the Ravens defense so that was nowhere near enough. I bet Belichick slipped each ref a fin or something. Utter bull.

  110. greenlargo says: Sep 15, 2016 12:23 PM

    MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says:
    Sep 15, 2016 11:47 AM
    BB is wicked smaht, we can all agree.

    —————————

    Shows what you Miami guys know. He is actually wicked pissah smaht.

  111. ebdug says: Sep 15, 2016 12:27 PM

    First Goodell takes away the wedge, then he moves coverage teams closer, then he moves the touchback line, all in the interest of eliminating kickoff returns. The man is so stupid he created more returns and made them more dangerous.

  112. alltee says: Sep 15, 2016 12:31 PM

    mzew233 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 7:03 AM

    You know as a great Strategist Bill.

    One would have thought to NOT do a drop kick trick punt against Philadelphia UP 14. To lose the #1 seed. As Boston radio pointed out, you romanticize about the old kickoffs that you thought you could do then because ‘were new england’

    How about Not kicking to the Jest in OT week 16?

    How about throwing once EVER in week 17 anywhere to get anyone involved. Knowing if you lose you lose the #1 seed and your QB is going back to Denver. But you didn’t care then because you weren’t afraid of anyone. Didnt respect other teams and didnt even try to hold the #1 seed when Denver gave you so many gifts.

    Or… How about going into Denver against a Defense that kicked Brady on the ground since the first snap. Which you know psyched you out because you actually elected to receive in a playoff game. Where I dropped my $8 bud light in awe.
    But then you GO for it on 4th and 1 in FG range. Then again 4th and 6. 2+ minutes all timeouts and you throw a TD pass to double-covered Gronk expecting a flag away?
    you are a great coach. But 31 coaches in that position would have kicked a FG.

    You waited 25 seconds before calling a timeout against AZ. Had they not lost field position. and been closer or actually made it, you would be mediocre but now your great.

    And I would have given up the Arizona win for 1 reasonable call the last 4 weeks last year. To get to a SB or atleast make Manning come to ***New England*.

    In Bill we trust? No. No — he also makes some very bad calls and bad decisions that DO NOT put his team in the best position to win because ‘were NE’ which other coaches would have done. If you can’t see that. You are a bandwagon bostonite or a Barstool fan.

    *make Manning come to ***New England*
    —————————————-
    What team do you coach for? You must be an NFL head coach somewhere. Otherwise, you’re just an armchair coach, just like everyone else on here. Admit it, you may know what he’s doing but you don’t know WHY he’s doing it.
    I’ve often thought he’s trying things out for future games when he does inexplicable things against lesser opponents.

    =======================================

    i am a die hard pats fan and completely agree with you, if belichek had you as an assistant he would have won those games and probably been the greatest coach of all time with 6 super bowls. sadly he doesnt have your football acumen and is only a run of the mill coach with a measly 4 superbowl rings as head coach, 5 rings in total, the best winning percentage of any coach, 4 th all time on the coach wins list with a a massive difference in losses compared to every coach ahead of him, what a loser!! they should totaly fire him and give you the job,

  113. ebdug says: Sep 15, 2016 12:34 PM

    “Smart coaches can use the rule to create advantages with more kickoff returns, not more touchbacks.”

    NFL coaches can take advantage of the rules, too.

  114. lifetimefan says: Sep 15, 2016 12:48 PM

    So let’s see……….

    First Mike Kensil will call Mort to tell him the Pats are being investigated for unfair kicking practices.

    Then Ryan Grigson will dig an old ball out of his bag, deliver it to the NFL office and tell them it was exchanged on the field last week and they think it is something wrong with it.

    Next Harbaugh will whine that it is DECEPTIVE to kick like that.

    Roger will hire independent investigator Ted Smells to find proof of the indiscretion.

    Ted will come up empty but Roger will insist that he find something so Ted will go back to Exponent, or is in Impotent, I forget, anyways they will use the same logic they used when employed by the tobacco industry to come up with some evidence of wrongdoing.

    In the meantime Roger will don a fake Brady mask and get seen on the at Gillette, then he will extend Brady’s suspension for being on the sidelines.

    He will also fine the Pats 2 more draft picks and a cool million.

    While all of this is going on Harbaugh will have his kicker practicing the short kicks and he will use it in his next game.

  115. greenlargo says: Sep 15, 2016 12:59 PM

    browntown57 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 6:39 AM
    Who could have seen this rule backfiring and creating more returns besides everyone?

    ——————————-

    You, me, 32 coaches (even Harbaugh), Hillary Clinton AND Donald trump, most Pat’s fans, some Pat’s haters, my parrot, your average bowl of soup….

  116. greenlargo says: Sep 15, 2016 5:54 PM

    MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says:
    Sep 15, 2016 11:00 AM
    Garcrapollo looks great no doubt, Shady might be in trouble no doubt.ROFL

    ——————————-

    I doubt it, but that would mean the Pat’s have found a new franchise QB better than Brady. If that happened it would mean they are resetting for another decade and a half of dominance. I don’t think you have thought your wishes through all the way.

  117. eaglesguy says: Sep 15, 2016 7:43 PM

    The rule change can be easily fixed. Just let teams “fair catch” a kickoff, even in front of the goal line, and then they can start at the 25. The incentive for the short kick will disappear.

  118. greenlargo says: Sep 15, 2016 9:14 PM

    eaglesguy says:
    Sep 15, 2016 7:43 PM
    The rule change can be easily fixed. Just let teams “fair catch” a kickoff, even in front of the goal line, and then they can start at the 25. The incentive for the short kick will disappear.

    ————————

    Or they could just leave it alone and let these guys play football.

    32 coaches know how to do this and a lot of them do. But one game where the Patriots play it well and all of a sudden it’s viewed as a problem.

  119. One for the thumb says: Sep 16, 2016 10:27 PM

    MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:33 AM
    Their were no Pats fans before 2001, just frustrated red sox fans dealing with decades of Yankee envy. lol
    _____________________________________

    Patriots have sold out every home game since 1993.

    How long is the current Miami sell-out streak?

  120. ibillwt says: Sep 17, 2016 5:25 AM

    It’s great,. The rest of the league will try to copy him, then he’ll jump them with another mismatch after they switch. When the league was all 4-3 he was predominantly 3-4; they imitated, he switched again.

    Whenever he proposes a rule change that makes perfect sense (extra point try) the league ignores it for 5 years to pretend it isn’t his idea. There will be fixed cameras on the goal line and sidelines after a suitable interval too.

  121. fireroger says: Sep 18, 2016 9:25 AM

    raidernation210 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:18 AM
    In the end the Cardinals kicker missed a makeable field goal and everybody acts like the patriots really won that game…lol!!
    ===================
    Broncos and Chiefs from Week 1 say Hi.

  122. dstroi says: Sep 19, 2016 1:01 PM

    MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:46 AM
    Short kickoff strategy will not work this week.
    Dolphins 24
    Pats 13
    Can’t wait to see all my Patriots pals.
    ***************************************************
    Hey uh, how did this game turn out my friend? Just imagine if Garoppolo didn’t get injured. How bad do you think the score would have been? I will let that simmer.

  123. dstroi says: Sep 19, 2016 1:04 PM

    MiamiDolphinsNationTravelingtoNewEngland says:
    Sep 15, 2016 9:46 AM
    Short kickoff strategy will not work this week.
    Dolphins 24
    Pats 13
    Can’t wait to see all my Patriots pals.
    ***************************************************
    Hey uh, how did that game turn out my friend? Just imagine if Garoppolo didn’t get injured. How bad do you think the score would have been exactly? I will let that question marinate for a little bit. I won’t expect an answer.

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