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Panthers “disappointed” ACC left over HB2, but defend their inclusiveness

CHARLOTTE, NC - DECEMBER 05:  General view of Bank of America Stadium before the Atlantic Coast Conference Football Championship between the Clemson Tigers and the North Carolina Tar Heels on December 5, 2015 in Charlotte, North Carolina.  (Photo by Grant Halverson/Getty Images) Getty Images

The Panthers are going to have one fewer game in their stadium this season, after the ACC pulled its conference championships from the state of North Carolina over the state’s controversial bathroom law HB2.

But the team’s position maintains unchanged, regarding the bill that stripped away protections from the LGBT community and most visibly required transgender persons to use the bathrooms of their birth rather than as they identify.

“We are aware of the decision from the Atlantic Coast Conference,” the team statement read. “Although we are disappointed, we remain steadfast in providing an inclusive environment at Bank of America Stadium. As we stated last summer, after more than 20 years of operations, we undoubtedly have had transgender persons attend events here and, presumably, they have used the restroom of the gender with which they identify. Our organization is against discrimination and has a long history of treating all of our patrons at Bank of America Stadium with dignity and respect.”

The Panthers have taken a low-key approach to the entire topic, distancing themselves from a law that has caused the NBA to pull the 2017 All-Star Game from Charlotte, and triggered other losses from concerts to businesses stopping plans to relocate or build there.

They clearly were never going to move their own games, and the NFL didn’t even move its owners meeting there in May when the issue was hot. So it appears that like many North Carolinians, they’re waiting to see if the November elections change the political climate in the state and the problem handles itself.

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  1. cuda1234 says: Sep 15, 2016 9:49 AM

    When did it become controversial to keep boys out of the girls bathroom? Seriously, this is just nuts.

  2. motsuret06 says: Sep 15, 2016 9:54 AM

    This position is commendable by the Carolina Panthers and speaks well of the organization. We can change the status quo of HB2. Get out and vote.

  3. niners816 says: Sep 15, 2016 9:56 AM

    Men go to the men’s room. Women go to the women’s room. This shouldn’t even be an issue. If you were born a man, you’re a man. If you were born a woman, you’re a woman. The fact this is even disputed is pathetic. Good for North Carolina for sticking to their guns.

  4. dreadnok89 says: Sep 15, 2016 10:02 AM

    Bizarre

  5. fwippel says: Sep 15, 2016 10:02 AM

    You can blame the wizards of smart on the Charlotte City Council for this.

    They passed an ordinance that would have allowed any man (not just transgender men) to walk into a women’s restroom any time he wanted, even if he just got out of prison for rape or sexual assault. That kind of nonsense needed to be fixed, and the state of North Carolina did the right thing.

  6. ecbutler says: Sep 15, 2016 10:12 AM

    Thank you for mentioning the stripping of gay discrimination protection. Every story I read/hear only mentions HB2 as a bill to remove Charlottes bathroom ordanance, however it is much bigger than that. It essentially bans any LGBT or transgender antidiscrimination laws from being created in NC by defining ALL antidiscrimination laws and omitting protection to the previously mentioned communities. Its discriminatory. Either protect everyone, or no one.

  7. tylawspick6 says: Sep 15, 2016 10:15 AM

    As a citizen living in NC, completely mortified of this state’s behavior in 2016 losing business left and right, I don’t think this is really a move that reflects on the Panthers, but the entire state.

  8. pw1265 says: Sep 15, 2016 10:16 AM

    If you feel the need to be a pathetic bigot, then enjoy the consequences bestowed upon you!

  9. connfyoozed says: Sep 15, 2016 10:16 AM

    “As we stated last summer, after more than 20 years of operations, we undoubtedly have had transgender persons attend events here and, presumably, they have used the restroom of the gender with which they identify.”

    By using the word “presumably” in that sentence, it makes it sound like the translation is “we have no idea what transgender people think about this topic because we have never spoken to them to hear their concerns.”

    And that’s part of the problem here. When you assume, you misunderstand, misinterpret and sometimes do the wrong thing. You can argue whether or not the law is the right thing or not, but it certainly isn’t being perceived to be the right thing by companies and organizations which are removing their money and events from North Carolina. Call it what you want, but it’s becoming an awfully expensive stand for the state to take.

  10. edahlb says: Sep 15, 2016 10:16 AM

    Seems like plenty of comments from Fox “News” viewers.

  11. Jason says: Sep 15, 2016 10:20 AM

    It’s funny how these articles always refer to HB2 as the “bathroom law”. What is completely overlooked is:

    (1) …the law’s removal of anti-discrimination laws which make it legal for employers to fire individuals who identify as LGBT.

    and

    (2) …the law is a draconian, strong-armed move by the state government in RESPONSE to Charlotte passing anti-discrimination laws. It also disallows any county or city to create law’s overriding parts of Hb2.

    The Panthers home city, Charlotte, was targeted by the state government in the creation of HB2. The people of Charlotte spoke, and the state government didn’t care.

  12. pw1265 says: Sep 15, 2016 10:21 AM

    It is truly mind numbing how ignorant the right wing cult members of this country truly are!!!

    Stupid is as Stupid does.

  13. kane337 says: Sep 15, 2016 10:21 AM

    So if I identify myself as a woman I can go to the women’s bathroom and check out the ladies (except in North Carolina)? Cool, but what dummy made that rule up?

  14. jchipwood says: Sep 15, 2016 10:24 AM

    tylawspick6 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:15 AM
    As a citizen living in NC, completely mortified of this state’s behavior in 2016 losing business left and right, I don’t think this is really a move that reflects on the Panthers, but the entire state.
    ________________________________________
    I love that the state of NC didn’t base it’s decision on money but on safety of it’s citizens.

  15. mvp43 says: Sep 15, 2016 10:26 AM

    Why do we have to constantly cater to a group of people that account for an incredibly small percentage of the population?

  16. Jason says: Sep 15, 2016 10:29 AM

    One other note: the bathroom portion of HB2 is also a worthless policy. How will it be enforced? Will law enforcement be staged outside of every public restroom in the state? They won’t. But let’s just assume such a crazy scenario would occur. How will authorities identify a trans person? Trans women don’t walk around with full-grown beards. Try googling trans women and men and you’ll find that many, many trans folks look the gender they identify as.

    It’s simply ridiculous.

  17. petedutcherjr says: Sep 15, 2016 10:29 AM

    This transgender rights thing is totally stupid.

    Bathrooms by birth. If any adjustments need to be made, then just add more stalls.

    Heck, in some parts of Europe, a bathroom is a bathroom (or water closet) and it doesn’t matter what sex you are. You go in and lock the door.

  18. abninf says: Sep 15, 2016 10:40 AM

    ecbutler says:

    Thank you for mentioning the stripping of gay discrimination protection. Every story I read/hear only mentions HB2 as a bill to remove Charlottes bathroom ordanance, however it is much bigger than that. It essentially bans any LGBT or transgender antidiscrimination laws from being created in NC by defining ALL antidiscrimination laws and omitting protection to the previously mentioned communities. Its discriminatory. Either protect everyone, or no one.
    ====================================

    Wrong. The mayor of Charlotte signed a law giving special rights to one group of people, the right to sue the state. No other group (race, gender, religious), was afforded that same right. HB2 simply put things back the way they were.

    You people don’t even know what it’s about.

  19. agent7x6 says: Sep 15, 2016 10:42 AM

    kane337 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:21 AM
    So if I identify myself as a woman I can go to the women’s bathroom and check out the ladies (except in North Carolina)? Cool, but what dummy made that rule up?
    ———————————————————————
    Try it and see.

  20. ecbutler says: Sep 15, 2016 10:44 AM

    As i mentioned previously, HB2 effects far more serious issues than Charlotte’s bathroom ordinance. If we are talking about the ordinance specifically though, I don’t think the arguments against it hold up.

    Sexual predators don’t avoid committing crimes in bathrooms because they aren’t permitted in the bathroom of the opposite sex. That is just silly. The penalties for sexual assault are far more severe than walking into the bathroom of the opposite sex.

    They avoid bathrooms because it is an idiotic place to commit such a crime. Bathrooms are small rooms, they have one way in and out, they echo, they are frequently visited; and when kids are involved, some one is usually waiting outside for their return. There are not many worse scenarios a sexual predator can put themselves in.

    Most sexual assaults take place in areas such as parks, and parking decks at night. They use chaos to blend in or vacant areas to commit crimes where some one is unlikely to walk bye. The bathroom is the exact opposite of that.

    To further my point lets look at the little boys room. Many sexual predators are men who prey on young boys. Yet we don’t think twice about letting a boy go use the men’s room. Its just not a place that poses much risk for such a crime. What rest room different sexes can use doesn’t change that.

    Personally i don’t think it makes much difference if people have to use the bathroom of their biological sex, or if they can use that of the opposite. What I do have a problem is the state overstepping and removing a local ordinance. Charlotte invoked the ordinance locally, let them discuss it. On top of that they overreacted and produced a bill which banned anti-discrimination protection for the LBGT and other communities. Its as if they saw a spider and burned the whole house down to get rid of it.

  21. mediasloppy says: Sep 15, 2016 10:57 AM

    mvp43 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:26 AM

    Why do we have to constantly cater to a group of people that account for an incredibly small percentage of the population?
    ———————–
    LGBT is not that small and it’s scary as heck reading that kind of logic. All kinds of groups can be considered small. You’re not catering to anyone. It’s a matter of equal rights. Like others have said, this isn’t just a bathroom law, that’s the strawman being used to justify it.

  22. Mo Pro Babble says: Sep 15, 2016 11:09 AM

    jchipwood says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:24 AM
    tylawspick6 says:
    Sep 15, 2016 10:15 AM
    As a citizen living in NC, completely mortified of this state’s behavior in 2016 losing business left and right, I don’t think this is really a move that reflects on the Panthers, but the entire state.
    ________________________________________
    I love that the state of NC didn’t base it’s decision on money but on safety of it’s citizens.

    Fat lot of good it will do them if they go broke in the process. Going to be tough to provide anyone anything with no freakin money.

    People who think these things up rarely think about the ripple effect. Thye just like that they made themselves feel god right now. Heck, let our grandchildren clean up our shortsighted mess.

  23. liverpoolred04 says: Sep 15, 2016 11:13 AM

    “transgender persons to use the bathrooms of their birth”

    What a crazy idea.

  24. jgedgar70 says: Sep 15, 2016 11:17 AM

    What no one is talking about is the hypocrisy of the boycotts. Let’s look at this step-by-step:

    1) Charlotte passes an ordinance intended to expand protections for the LGBT community.
    2) The STATE government retaliates with HB2
    3) The NBA, several businesses, and now the ACC respond by pulling events out of Charlotte – the city that tried to expand protections for the community these entities claim to be standing up for.

    Doesn’t anyone see how hypocritical this is??????

  25. crackinbones says: Sep 15, 2016 11:22 AM

    Target allows restroom/changing room of customers choice…here’s a snippet from a story 2 months go.

    “A 46 year old transgender woman filmed an 18-year-old girl changing into a swimsuit in a Target fitting room in Idaho Monday, while the retailer is being boycotted for its new transgender bathroom and fitting room policy.

    Sad.

  26. bleedgreenphilly says: Sep 15, 2016 11:25 AM

    People who care about who uses what bathroom seem to ignore the fact that pedophiles that like children of the same gender can still use the bathroom. The law doesn’t protect your children. It’s useless.

  27. 345snarkavenue says: Sep 15, 2016 11:28 AM

    I don’t see how any sexual predator’s intention is going to be changed by HB2, as the sexual crime they intend to commit (and it’s punishment) is MUCH greater than the crime of entering a bathroom they shouldn’t, and they’re not swayed by that.

    There’s just no logic being used in that argument, which is the main argument for HB2.

  28. rock4eb says: Sep 15, 2016 11:55 AM

    I don’t live in N.C. I can state that I am sick of having gay or trans topics shoved down my throat. If you make the choice to live your life a certain way fine. But if I disagree with your choice don’t label me or ask for my approval. And since when did business extortion become acceptable at any time. People pushing the acceptance of that lifestyle on others who truly believe it is morally wrong just doesn’t work, it just causes further resistance. If I believe your choices are immoral, please don’t be surprised when I don’t support regulations or laws that condone your behavior. If I chose to live my life as an aduterer, should I be asking you to pass laws making it just fine for me to engage in sex with your wife or partner?

  29. pacificdan says: Sep 15, 2016 12:27 PM

    If you make the choice to live your life a certain way
    _
    Well, there is the crux of the problem, right there. Some people, like you, view it as a choice. Some people, like me, view it as the way you were born. Honestly if you are right and its a choice they shouldn’t be able to demand special/equal rights, I just don’t see it as a choice and therefore they should be protect because they were born a certain way.

  30. ajames35 says: Sep 15, 2016 12:39 PM

    Unfortunately a lot of NC residents are willing to fall on their sword over the myth that HB2 is about safety…

    HB2 was never actually about safety – that talking point was added by supporters after it bacame a political firestorm. The infamous “bathroom provision” has neither an enforcement mechanism nor prescribed penalties. It’s by definition a guideline that no *real* criminal will care about.

    This isn’t my opinion elther… NC’s own attorneys admitted the same in trial. Ditto police acrioss the state. A pointless, stubborn stand over a worthless law… Sad…

  31. ajames35 says: Sep 15, 2016 12:44 PM

    Spoiler alert: HB2 is not about preventing “men using women’s restrooms.” That wasn’t enabled by the original Charlotte ordinance either. Total red herring made up by supporters after the fact. Random guys using the opposite bathroom would have been asked to leave or cited for trespassing just as they always have been, and should be.

  32. rock4eb says: Sep 15, 2016 12:45 PM

    To Pacificdan:
    So where do we go from here? As far as I am aware the entire human genome has been mapped and no gay gene has been found. If, I am unaware of something new, I am willing to listen. However, as you have stated, it a matter of my beliefs differing from yours at least at this point.

  33. granadafan says: Sep 15, 2016 12:53 PM

    No sports team is going to win by being pro discrimination. This isn’t the 1950s when segregation still existed along with public and rampant racism and discrimination against gays. We’re a modern and civilized country in the 21st century. The old guard and religious fanatics better join us or be left behind.

  34. rock4eb says: Sep 15, 2016 1:05 PM

    I can agree with modern but civilized not so sure. I also find it telling that you feel compelled to label a religious individual as a fanatic. And I am supposed to follow you when you so loosely categorize people? I already have a better leader. I would rather be left behind than be a Lemming.

  35. jrebar88 says: Sep 15, 2016 2:41 PM

    People wanting to live in a country where religious laws rule the land can go over to the middle East. I heard the friendly people of ISIS have your sympathy.
    Oh wait, you don’t want to live over there because they’ll kill you. Ok, learn that in America religious beliefs are supposed to stay out of the laws in this country

  36. rcali says: Sep 15, 2016 3:13 PM

    Sounds like the NCAA needs to go to it’s “Safe Space.”

  37. mackcarrington says: Sep 15, 2016 3:29 PM

    This law has nothing at all to do with FOOTBALL!!!

  38. rcali says: Sep 15, 2016 3:33 PM

    Business Extortion 101, possibly my favorite college course, right next to that worthless biology course that was supposed to make me well rounded. I do have the best cube plant in my office. It’s right next to my sign that reads “I’m allergic to everything, please avoid coming to the office.”

  39. saundersspencer2 says: Sep 15, 2016 4:09 PM

    Let’s be real here, ACC moving champ game is like Kapernick kneeling, does no good, nobody who matters cares. Koch Brothers and Jerry Richardson were Gov McCrorys’s biggest campaign contributors.

  40. morbidtaint says: Sep 16, 2016 12:02 AM

    I’m from SC and I’ve watched this thing evolve. It was stupid when Charlotte put a city ordinance in to protect transgender rights in regards to using which restroom they wanted, which sounds great but the reality of the situation was there was no issue. So the GOP decides to take the exact opposite and make that not okay. This law has no teeth, if you are a man and you use a woman’s restroom in NC you know what happens to you? Nothing. No fine, no jail time, nothing. Being a pedophile or a pervert who spies on people in the restroom was already illegal. This law is completely political and according to a UCLA study will end up costing the state around 5 billion dollars. And what does it accomplish? NOTHING. I haven’t read any articles about transgenders using the restroom or peeping on other people using the restroom, I haven’t seen one example of it. It’s just a big ball of stupid and everyone for some reason has an opinion about it like it means something. STOP! It means nothing, it accomplishes nothing, nothing changes except money leaving the state. Fire these politicians, somebody please.

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