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Report: Bills owners met with offensive players without Rex Ryan present

ORCHARD PARK, NY - SEPTEMBER 15:  Buffalo Bills owners Terry and Kim Pegula watch as Hall of Famer Bruce Smith get an award during the game between the Buffalo Bills and New York Jets at New Era Field on September 15, 2016 in Orchard Park, New York.  (Photo by Brett Carlsen/Getty Images) Getty Images

Friday’s decision to fire Bills offensive coordinator Greg Roman was preceded by something unconventional, to say the least.

According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, owners Terry and Kim Pegula met with offensive players (like quarterback Tyrod Taylor) on Friday morning. Per the report, coach Rex Ryan was not present for the meetings — and he wasn’t happy about it when he learned that the owners had met with his players.

It’s unclear whether the team, which partially owns NFL Media, provided a comment or any input in advance of the report. Then again, if the report is accurate, what’s there to say?

Moving forward, there can be no doubt that Ryan is on the hot seat. Even though he wasn’t the first MFer that goes, he’s on deck, at a minimum.

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  1. tonebones says: Sep 18, 2016 10:21 AM

    I like the fact that the owner wants to win. When you buy a team but you know nothing about football, you begin a learning process. So far it looks like he’s learned that Rex is just a big talker. I just hope he doesn’t go through too many coaches before he starts learning that coaches are only as good as their players. Next up on the hot seat, the GM. You just can’t expect to consistently beat good defenses if your QB can’t function.

  2. bal204 says: Sep 18, 2016 10:22 AM

    Oh boy…here we go….

  3. Troll Destroyer says: Sep 18, 2016 10:24 AM

    Soon he’ll be a Defensive Coordinator.

    He’ll be better than his brother.

  4. wnstonchill says: Sep 18, 2016 10:25 AM

    Bills owners hired this team wrecker. Now they’re trying to save face & mask the real problem.

  5. heynow16 says: Sep 18, 2016 10:25 AM

    Bye, Rex.

  6. ocgunslinger says: Sep 18, 2016 10:27 AM

    Coaches rarely “Retire” but usually are fired. A matter of time for most. Under these circumstances Ryan should consider the ownership undermining him and just might want to resign. With their schedule and team injuries he won’t be back for 2017 under any circumstances.

  7. asparatame says: Sep 18, 2016 10:27 AM

    So tell me about how Jerry Jones meddles in football operations again.

    I mean it’s clear he’s the only one, right?

  8. coltsreign says: Sep 18, 2016 10:28 AM

    Pegula is a business owner and if he is concerned for the state of the business than he has the right to meet with his employees, THE PLAYERS. Rex Ryan is gonna get the boot, there is no doubt.

  9. joecool16280 says: Sep 18, 2016 10:30 AM

    Thats an odd move to make by the owners.

  10. tccoats says: Sep 18, 2016 10:35 AM

    Need to fix the headline to say Ryan was NOT present

  11. joetoronto says: Sep 18, 2016 10:36 AM

    This is what Pegula does, he’s way too hands on and nothing will change as long as he own the Bills.

    He does the same thing with the Buffalo Sabres hockey team.

  12. 700levelvet says: Sep 18, 2016 10:40 AM

    What a mess

  13. jag1959 says: Sep 18, 2016 10:41 AM

    Owner meets with players on the offensive side of the ball without Rex present.

    OC then gets fired with Rex saying firing was all him.

    If Rex had any credibility with his players on that side of the ball that would have seriously damaged it but you can’t really damage something that doesn’t exist. That D got pushed around from the Jets very first snap, why didn’t Pegula meet with them?

  14. TB12RALLYCRY says: Sep 18, 2016 10:44 AM

    Its just a matter of time …………

  15. pftthoughtpolicemostwanted says: Sep 18, 2016 10:46 AM

    If the league alienated its fans to the point where no one watched the games or cared about this manufactured drama, did it really happen?

  16. mazenblue says: Sep 18, 2016 10:47 AM

    Only odd if Rex Ryan isnt present. That would be undermining his coach. But coach was there, so

  17. gjv001 says: Sep 18, 2016 10:50 AM

    If this is true, it could possible lead to an uncontrollable team environment. It has been argued, based on penalties, clock mismanagement, time out mismanagement and poor two minute efficiency, that Rex’s discipline of coaches and players latter doesn’t go to the top. How will he be able to manage his coaches and players if the owners meet with players to discuss the performance of coaches.

  18. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 18, 2016 10:50 AM

    “Ryan should consider the ownership undermining him and just might want to resign. ”

    Most head coaches usually have guaranteed contracts if they’re fired so they virtually never quit. That’s what keeps a lot of these guys around longer than they might otherwise be. Owners don’t like paying people 5-8 mil a year to sit at home.

  19. chippysbinky says: Sep 18, 2016 10:51 AM

    So Pegula is the new Dan Snyder? How long before he goes the full Jerry Jones? As buffoonish as Rex is even he doesn’t rate that kind of disrespect. What message does that send to anyone Pegula wants to be his next head coach? Nothing good will come of this.

  20. jakec4 says: Sep 18, 2016 10:52 AM

    Leave the football to the football people. Rich meddling owners hardly ever help the situation.

  21. samgeyser says: Sep 18, 2016 10:54 AM

    Wow… when they hired Rex and then he brought in his cronies and now his womb-mate, wasn’t it obvious that this is where we’d be? From that day on, last year, I knew Pegula’s made a huge mistake. Now under-cutting their HC, pitting players against the staff…oh, that’s right… just in for a “chat Friday morning.”…especially after 6 days into 2016, shows me they haven’t a clue how to build. We’ll see. Actually, as a Bills fan, absolutely nothing, not a single thing, shocks me.

  22. nflfan4now says: Sep 18, 2016 10:55 AM

    -you need to fix the headline
    -pegula’s first step should be hire a football guy similar to a Polian, let him hire a competent gm and coach.
    -pegula’s can only hope rex resigns, they owe hin $25m if they fire him!

  23. pftfan says: Sep 18, 2016 10:59 AM

    This is part one of the learning process.

    Part two will be them realizing that the team would make a lot more money in Toronto.

  24. bingobrown12 says: Sep 18, 2016 10:59 AM

    Don’t feel bad for Rex,He bilked the Jets the Bills
    and he is going to do the same with ESPN.Wish I
    got the money he got for failing

  25. kgun80 says: Sep 18, 2016 11:04 AM

    There is a name everyone is forgetting to mention he is the main part of the playoff drought for the Bills. Russ Brandon. He hired Whaley and believe me he is the one who sold the Pegulas on Rex. Hes responsible for things like giving Mario Williams 100 mill, Bringing in TO, Paying Ryan Fitzpatrick he also gave his Buddy Doug Marrone a contract that basically let him quit and make millions .As long as he has any ability to make any decisions that effect the product on the field my Bills will continue to be the laughingstock of the NFL.

  26. jvw1982 says: Sep 18, 2016 11:04 AM

    This is not what the Owner of a team should be doing….you have a GM who is responsible for the team, its his job along with the coach to build a team and win games, when that doesn’t happen the GM makes the moves, if that doesn’t work then you find a new GM…once the owners bypass the people he hired to run his team they are now irrelevant in the players eyes…Ryan has now lost the team (offensive players for sure) and this will become more a $hit show before the end of the season…Ownership 101 don’t undermine the people you need in order to have a winning organization…I though Rex hiring two yrs ago was a good move by the Bills because they had a good roster….man was I wrong, sorry Bills fans…..

  27. HankTheDog says: Sep 18, 2016 11:10 AM

    which one is Kim and which one is Terry? they are both chick names

  28. carloswlassiter says: Sep 18, 2016 11:13 AM

    If the HC’s style breeds undisciplined, entitled players who think they are better than they really are, how can the OC or any assistant coach be successful?

    Who in their right mind would take a job as an assistant under Ryan?

    And for the guy above me who said the GM was next, you gotta be kidding. How many GM’s and assistants will be fired before someone gets a clue that the problem is Ryan himself.

  29. rollsieboys says: Sep 18, 2016 11:13 AM

    that team has too much talent to not be good.

    but this is buffalo we’re talking about…

  30. TB12RALLYCRY says: Sep 18, 2016 11:14 AM

    I like the fact that the owner wants to win. When you buy a team but you know nothing about football, you begin a learning process. So far it looks like he’s learned that Rex is just a big talker. I just hope he doesn’t go through too many coaches before he starts learning that coaches are only as good as their players. Next up on the hot seat, the GM. You just can’t expect to consistently beat good defenses if your QB can’t function.



    You could be a garbage collector ( not that theres any problem with the occupation) and have no direct knowledge of football and know all Rex has done his whole time is TALK ALOT………

  31. urmomsmyho says: Sep 18, 2016 11:14 AM

    The three “certainties” in life:

    1) Death
    2) Taxes
    3) It’s never Rex’s fault!

  32. bosco264 says: Sep 18, 2016 11:16 AM

    He should have met with them BEFORE he hired Rex!

  33. getyourownname says: Sep 18, 2016 11:18 AM

    They are not Rex’s players, though he might think so. They are employees of the team.

    Having said that, Rex is clearly done now, as it is impossible for players to take him seriously. Owner should acknowledge the irreverible situation and fire him. No manager deserves to be forced to function in such an environment.

    The Little Danny Snyder approach is never a good one.

  34. newmancave2016 says: Sep 18, 2016 11:18 AM

    Dumpster fire

  35. cardinealsfan20 says: Sep 18, 2016 11:22 AM

    One wonders how many of the Bills fans claiming that Pegula is a serial meddler were thrilled when he saved the team from leaving Buffalo.

  36. donbat67 says: Sep 18, 2016 11:24 AM

    Stage 1 dumpster fire .
    This is gonna be fun to watch .
    Do the fire the whole family at once or one at a time ?

  37. jag1959 says: Sep 18, 2016 11:26 AM

    nflfan4now says:
    Sep 18, 2016 10:55 AM

    -Pegula’s first step should be hire a football guy similar to a polian, let him hire a competent gm and coach

    Polian is the clown chiefly responsible for the patty cake era.
    There is a special place in Hades reserved for him when the time comes, until then Buffalo will do.

  38. corkspop says: Sep 18, 2016 11:28 AM

    Undermining the coach just can’t be good. Ever.

  39. jimmypx says: Sep 18, 2016 11:28 AM

    I love how everyone forgets that the Pagulas SAVED the Bills from being moved !!! If they hadn’t bought the team then the team would be gone by now, so they deserve a little slack in my opinion.

    Also, unlike Snyder they don’t do this all of the time BUT if you were in their shoes wouldn’t you want to talk to the players and see where the problems REALLY lie ??
    I foresee major changes for the team and if they get rid of Brandon, Whaley and the Ryans and replace them with a good GM and HC then things will get better.

  40. chrisk61 says: Sep 18, 2016 11:30 AM

    the bills…

    starting 0-2 including a div home loss…

    are already toast. no room for error in that div. the size of the train wreck fire will just increase as the season progresses.

  41. ReligionIsForIdiots says: Sep 18, 2016 11:31 AM

    Delusional owners.

  42. unruhly27 says: Sep 18, 2016 11:38 AM

    They all work for him. Rex and all the players. If your boss wants to meet with you that’s called running a business. Good bosses not only talk to managers they talk to the bottom to check on the managers.

  43. TheBrownswillstinkagain says: Sep 18, 2016 11:42 AM

    When owners get involved it always works out great.

    Browns, Cowboys, Bills and Al Davis Raiders lmao.

  44. YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob says: Sep 18, 2016 11:42 AM

    Eliminated from playoff contention in record time.

  45. blackbug99 says: Sep 18, 2016 11:43 AM

    The Toronto Troll says: He does the same thing with the Buffalo Sabres hockey team.
    Yep, because building up the area, and letting the GM hire great prospects is a bad thing.

    I doubt the Pegulas will become Snyder or J Jones. It is their right to manage THEIR team as they see fit. I love them as owners and members of the community. Many thanks for keeping the Bills in Buffalo!!!

  46. rudegger says: Sep 18, 2016 11:48 AM

    …goodbye Bills….helllooooo Buffalo Browns

  47. widerightyouloseagain says: Sep 18, 2016 11:51 AM

    If you like losing then you’re in the right town, Buffalo. All they do is lose.

    Wide right, you lose again.

  48. bencoates57 says: Sep 18, 2016 11:54 AM

    I bet Hill — I mean Rex wasn’t happy at all about THIS.

  49. xpensivewinos says: Sep 18, 2016 11:58 AM

    Hey Rex, I believe Jim Morrison said it best: This Is The End.

  50. jimatmad says: Sep 18, 2016 11:58 AM

    Among the Head Coach, the Defensive Coordinator, and the Offensive Coordinator, the team clearly fired the wrong one of the three.

    Either of the other two would have made more sense.

    The owner needs to get somebody like a Ron Wolfe who can come in and oversee the whole football operation.

  51. ricko1112 says: Sep 18, 2016 12:14 PM

    Offense scores 24 points. Defense gives up 37 points and they fire the OC? Then the owner goes behind the coach’s back for a meeting.

    Bob Kraft, the best owner in the league, used to meddle too much when Parcells was the head coach. That led to Parcells not focusing during the Green Bay/NE SB. Parcells didn’t prepare the Pats and GB won. Bill didn’t even fly home with the team. Remember the famous “shop for the groceries,” quote?

    Rex is not head coach material. His teams regress each year. They are undisciplined and out coached.

  52. nhpats says: Sep 18, 2016 12:17 PM

    Rex won’t make it to Thanksgiving….

  53. bradygirl12 says: Sep 18, 2016 12:18 PM

    Uh-oh…. The Bills are officially a dumpster fire.

  54. absolutevisuals says: Sep 18, 2016 12:19 PM

    “I just hope he doesn’t go through too many coaches before he starts learning that coaches are only as good as their players.”

    Look at the Buffalo Sabres since he took over, then realize just how wrong you are.

  55. hamlet423 says: Sep 18, 2016 12:19 PM

    This can’t be a good sign for Rex Ryan’s future in buffalo

    He isn’t just losing games though

    Tons of penalties, the team doesn’t look prepared, at one point during the 2 min offense with time running down, the Bills players were trash talking the Jets instead of getting to the line quickly.

    Poor use of time-outs, and poor defensive play from a guy that is a defensive genius.

    Mark Oct 9th–Bills vs Rams. We’ll see which team seems more disorganized! Assuming either Fisher or Rex is still coaching by then.

  56. ramit1 says: Sep 18, 2016 12:20 PM

    The facade is collapsing. The only reason the ryan twins are coaches is because of laziness and nepotism. The head coach’s only success was because of the great players he inherited. Once they were all his choices his teams were horrible.

  57. bobc74 says: Sep 18, 2016 12:20 PM

    The players not only work for Rex, they also work for the Terry and Kim Pegula. Where I work, the owners sometimes work side by side with you. Not to punish you, make you nervous, or try to catch you doing something wrong. But to help you do your job better.

  58. 509majesty says: Sep 18, 2016 12:20 PM

    For the whiners about an owner talking to the players, so what! Maybe he asked the right questions? Maybe someone told him something he doesn’t normally hear? Funny how the fans always go after the owner for not knowing anything about football…

    Rex is a fool, so is his brother. All blather, no substance!

  59. jimatmad says: Sep 18, 2016 12:21 PM

    If you want somebody to talk the talk, hire Rex Ryan.

    If you want somebody to walk the walk, get somebody else.

  60. unclebluck says: Sep 18, 2016 12:23 PM

    Pegula has destroyed my Bills and Sabres, though unintentionally. I was very upset when he hired the #Schmuckcoach last year and I knew it would be a disaster just as it was for the Jets. I honestly believed they would not admit their mistake hiring Ryan for at least another year in order to save face for another year…..I was wrong about that part….put a fork in Wrecks and his fat Sister…they’re both done…….

  61. westcoastbillsfan says: Sep 18, 2016 12:24 PM

    Brandon is and always has been the problem. Until Brandon goes, the Bills organization will never win. As a life long Bills fan this situation is painful.

  62. cycle1 says: Sep 18, 2016 12:24 PM

    Ryans’ future with the Bills resides in whether they can completely turn the defense around. The defense should not be spending so much time on the field. The time the defense plays on the field is mostly resulting from the Bills offense not having a balanced attack.

    So, it was reasonable to shake things up on the offense by firing Roman.

    The Ryans’ MUST internally shake things up by doing things differently on defense because teams have obviously figured Ryans’ packages out. I am willing to give the Ryan’s a benefit of the doubt, but they MUST come up with a defensive plan the puts the Bills at least in the top 10 defenses in the league over the last 14 games or else they will be fired. The Ryan’s claim to fame is defense, so they MUST put up or shut up THIS season….

  63. donbat67 says: Sep 18, 2016 12:28 PM

    Their gonna send Rexy out for more snax and change the locks .

  64. sorosbolshevism says: Sep 18, 2016 12:28 PM


  65. cycle1 says: Sep 18, 2016 12:33 PM

    Remember when Rex got the job with the Bills he said that he knew this was his last chance. These last 14 games the Ryan brothers will either come up with something brilliant to make the Bills. Top 10 defense or else they will be fired.

  66. zerotrophiessince1961 says: Sep 18, 2016 12:33 PM

    lol. There is really only one team in the NFC that is a constant dumpster fire – the Lions. And even they made the playoffs in 2014 and 2011.

    WHY does the AFC have so many AWFUL franchises?? Browns, Bills, Chargers, Jets, Dolphins, Titans, Raiders and Jags. HALF the conference has been mostly bad for 2 decades!

    Although, to be fair, things are looking up for the Jags and Raiders currently.

  67. valentino8100 says: Sep 18, 2016 12:33 PM

    Without doubt, Rex is a huge problem (pun intended). That said, the owners completely undermined the role of head coach by meeting directly with players in his absence. Complete dysfunction. Amazing that as a NE fan, I actually find myself feeling bad for the City of Buffalo. But then again, we’ve had our inept owners and coaches so it’s easy to relate.

  68. geefan1 says: Sep 18, 2016 12:41 PM

    Only a matter of time now…

  69. mikeytoth says: Sep 18, 2016 12:44 PM

    Well, when the commissioner tried to let the three other teams in the AFC east get a shot to dethrone the Pat’s, and it doesn’t work you gotta do something

  70. weepingjebus says: Sep 18, 2016 12:47 PM

    The more I think about it, the weirder this gets. You already have a new OC so all you are doing is undermining him by giving unhappy players a direct line to ownership — aka the Snyder Model. And the defense is the problem anyway so you aren’t even fixing anything. Plus Rex and Rob “Hired in Five Minutes” Ryan always react so professionally when threatened. Any way we can get the Hard Knocks crew over there to capture all this?

  71. QB Film Room says: Sep 18, 2016 12:47 PM

    Memo to Rex, Drama does not win Super Bowls, Rex carries drama with him wherever he goes

  72. happster says: Sep 18, 2016 12:57 PM

    Rex Ryan is a dumpster fire on wheels. Every team he touches turns into a circus. He should’ve been fired and spit out of the bottom of the foot porn industry years ago. The offense puts up 30+ points and they fire the OC. What a bunch of tools.

  73. mickvv says: Sep 18, 2016 12:58 PM

    Rex Ryan is the Donald Trump of head coaches.

  74. manderson4150 says: Sep 18, 2016 1:14 PM

    The second meeting will be with the players just before Wrecks is fired…..

  75. sinkit5 says: Sep 18, 2016 1:17 PM

    They need to get advice rather quickly from other owners. had a top 5 defense when they bought team and a few players away from being a wild card team this has been 2 years lost revamping a D that was pretty good, just my opinion on GM a pretty good talent guy. I believe this last draft was totally on Rex .
    The HC spends is off days at Clemson his son plays there and you still pick a injured player in 1 st round WHY Ragland was a good find unfortunately he got hurt on field.
    its a shame we have some of the best fans in NFL and always get let down, yes he sold tickets but in Buffalo we also need the W.
    Fans deserve better

  76. Ferdinand says: Sep 18, 2016 1:18 PM

    And they wonder why the team is so dysfunctional – it because of things like this that foster a climate of mistrust among employees at all levels.

    On top of everything else that needs fixing.

  77. jason9696 says: Sep 18, 2016 1:34 PM

    They own the Buffalo Sabres as well and obviously have no idea what they hell they are doing with either sports team.

  78. mackcarrington says: Sep 18, 2016 1:35 PM

    This is indeed odd, but what better way for the owner to know if the offense is buying into what Ryan is selling.
    Also can’t help but wonder if this is the kind of thing that led Doug Marrone to quit a coveted head coaching job.

  79. todd6162 says: Sep 18, 2016 1:39 PM

    Not looking good for owners, who would want to come in here

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